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Oct 17, 2023
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Westside Gunn Talks New Album 'And Then You Pray For Me', Ageism in Hip-Hop | SWAY’S UNIVERSE
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[Applause]
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yo we've been talking about this today
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man just manifestation just believing in
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your heart and what comes out of your
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mouth becomes your reality we've seen
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this happen man with this man since 2005
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talk about
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it tried to take him down they didn't do
0:17
nothing but let him sit on that battery
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pack for a few years and came back
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tripled
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up he talk about those big names that's
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giving them props we've seen Jay-Z
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receive them we've seen Eminem receive
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them SE the whole industry receive them
0:32
tell the truth we don't do that unless
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it's real Universal realness you can
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walk on any Walk of Life and you're
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going to appeal to everybody cuz Real
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Recognize is real we said this when we
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first start having them up here the
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whole movement Buffalo stand up if
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you're not calling in right now you from
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Buffalo you're doing a disservice I'm
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ashamed of
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you you got to love it man he came up
0:58
here to talk about project after
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projects after projects to the point man
1:02
I got mixed up on what project we on now
1:07
prolific it's something to be said about
1:10
an artist who always has to create in
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each and every project this man has put
1:16
out he treats it like it was his first
1:18
or his last he's so excited about music
1:22
that he can't stop a record company a
1:25
major label couldn't withstand him cuz
1:28
he has so much to give to the world when
1:30
you look at him he's shining he's
1:31
glistening right now I feel like I'm in
1:33
the North Pole he's straight from the
1:35
party and he came in anyway he didn't
1:37
have to come in today but he came in to
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be with family right now I want to
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welcome him back to the show Give It Up
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to Westside
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gun come on man oh that's how you do it
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that's how you do it there you go there
1:52
you go there you go Westside gun yo they
1:56
got to say your name we have Michael
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Biven up here
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Michael Biven secretly was that glue to
2:04
BBD of course and to New Edition and
2:07
then
2:08
ABC um and then Boys to Men and the list
2:13
goes on and on right but was Michael
2:16
Biven Michael Biven was a jack of all
2:18
the trades right and then you fast
2:21
forward years later you realize he was
2:23
also a big major part of the decisions
2:25
in the business this is what I like
2:27
about Westside gun mhm the same energy
2:30
he puts into the art as a MC he loves to
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rap He loves to make
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music three days I want to say or two
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days the peace fly got how many days it
2:43
take you it's all a blur but it don't
2:46
take long man three two three days
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average to do an album for sure for sure
2:50
and we celebrate and then you pray for
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me yeah we here man we are here Westside
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gun man why do you love to rap so much
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much
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bro I mean it's not even the fact I like
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to rap so much man but you know
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sometimes man just just beats move me
3:09
man and I just I get in my zone cuz for
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like you know it might be a few months
3:14
where I don't rap at all you know what
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I'm saying I don't even you know I'll be
3:17
on my other bag you know what I'm saying
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Cura for somebody
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else uh you know fashion still sit in
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front row at all the wrestling you know
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I do everything and and that's and
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that's all after still being you know
3:32
the best father I can be
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so you know
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man but you
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know you know it's it's just like you
3:42
know I just love the culture man you
3:44
know what I'm saying this this is this
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is a uh a competitive sport yeah and you
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know I'm I'm the main guy who always you
3:51
know I'm not a fan of the once every
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three four years artist you know what
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I'm saying that's not true bro I'm not
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I'm not I'm not a fan of that I think um
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you know when people start investing
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into you and they they uh want to see
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you create like you you know what I'm
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trying to say it's like if you got a
4:08
favorite basketball player you don't
4:10
want to see him only play two games a
4:12
year yeah you want to see him every time
4:14
you going to be pissed if he ain't the
4:15
game just imagine you spent your last
4:18
dollar ever to try to see your favorite
4:19
player and you come and he just laughing
4:21
on the bench full gear laughing with his
4:24
friends on his side like I hate that
4:26
type of [ __ ] like bro do you know
4:28
somebody just this their first game they
4:29
ever came to in their life they paid
4:31
good money and just cuz you went out
4:33
partying last night you don't want to
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play today like that's not right I'm not
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I'm not a fan of that I'm I'm I'm a fan
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of giving the fans what they want man
4:42
and let me tell you something y'all we
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this is a morning a live morning show
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this ain't a a something you could tape
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on Monday and and release two or three
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weeks ago this happens now this man is
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straight from the party yes he is he's
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straight from the party man where was
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the party how was it
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that was the party now the party the
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party was it was super dope man a lot of
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you know I can't even tell you who I
5:07
came because I just once I got there I
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went kind of like straight to the back
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of I was just seeing people left and
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right and just I was just kind of in my
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zone you know what I'm saying and um I
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took I took py man py party last night
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py 10 now man she got the fake got the
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fake IDE oh man she got a more exciting
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Li
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youve too early n nah n you know py py
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been a part of my whole career you know
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what I'm saying and um you know this
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this was a last night was a big moment
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for me because I don't have Red Carpet
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Events I don't have parties I don't
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really do a lot of that you know what
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I'm saying so for the first time I just
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really wanted to like have my family my
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little sister you know people just there
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with me that been supporting me for
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since day one I never really been around
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like last night was like a family moment
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and that's amazing man it was just dope
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man a lot of taste makers man a lot of
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you know fashion has you know uh big
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Paul was in there you know what I'm
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saying
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paan Paul this Paul what you mean Paul
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Rosenberg man Paul
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Rosen what other Paul was in there yo
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Paul left the palace man Paul was in VIP
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with me man what of course okay Paul
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PR [ __ ] only you going to get that to
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happen man I can't get this dude to come
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to my birthday party how you do that I'm
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know no longer Super Fly Guy man damn
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Paul all right but I like that yeah
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people seeing y'all together is great
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right course of course of course and
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like I told him last night man I thank
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them for everything
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again speak to that cuz folks always
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assume there's something there when
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there's nothing there right no it's
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nothing there at all yeah you know what
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I'm saying and um with
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you know the thing about it is man you
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know I I don't even like really speaking
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a lot on it but I do want to say like I
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think him because like you said even s
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to a major I was able to get my rocks
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off and he could have been like no yeah
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over ceas and desist uhuh this not
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coming out no we got to wait because we
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want to he let me run you know what I'm
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saying and I thank him for that because
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that's so rare I'm saying he he didn't
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have to do that and that's why I respect
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him even more now if he just held me
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back and was just like nah you can't do
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this nah you can't uh uh uh uh uh then
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that would have been an issue but he was
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still letting me you know eat feed my
7:44
family do what I had to do and and and
7:46
grow as an artist and you know just from
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uh the Shady days to Now it only been a
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few years but it's just like the growth
7:55
of Westside gun even from then to now is
7:58
like he just he's just proud of me you
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know what I'm saying man that's amazing
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I love it man these are the stories that
8:03
we need to talk about as well okay I'm
8:07
curious um you were very instrumental we
8:10
all know the story of Benny The Butcher
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and you know um coming into the gang
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Conway of course
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family and I I heard you say I think um
8:19
that you you know I think you even said
8:21
it here in the past that you introduced
8:23
Benny to to the rap game right and you
8:26
kind of showed them how to
8:27
rap who showed you to rap like who who
8:31
who sat you down one day and said hey
8:33
man rewrite that or man
8:35
nobody it's crazy cuz nobody Tau me
8:38
nothing like you feel me like when
8:40
people be like damn you know he on gzel
8:43
the records it look so good it's moving
8:45
so well because see that's the thing
8:47
about what people don't understand about
8:49
Westside
8:50
gun these other big names they had when
8:54
you walk in the room it's 50 people yeah
8:56
they got the best marketing they got the
8:58
best P they got the best this person
9:00
they got the best that person and and
9:02
these 50 people make up that person when
9:05
you know what I'm saying so of course
9:06
it's gonna and they you know they got
9:08
the building behind them they got the
9:09
bread behind them the machine the
9:11
machine behind them so when you see all
9:13
of that that's not even the artist
9:14
that's the machine
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pushing when you see Westside gun is
9:19
Westside gun pushing yeah when I walk in
9:21
the room I'm the 50 people M you know
9:24
what I'm saying so when I when I have to
9:26
come out on a on the day another artist
9:28
come out and he he got those 50 people
9:31
you know what I'm saying it was me doing
9:33
50 people you know I mean job so it's
9:35
just like yeah I'm the person that's you
9:37
know I mean got to write it curate it
9:40
you know what I'm saying put it put it
9:42
together sonically as the artist I got
9:44
to focus on being you know having the
9:46
best artist I mean album I could
9:48
possibly make but then I have to turn
9:50
around and be Westside gun the CEO of
9:52
Griselda records and handle all the
9:54
business on that too you know what I'm
9:55
saying so it's just like why don't you
9:57
delegate though are you to that point
9:59
yeah I mean it's can't let it go yeah
10:03
because that's the thing man I've been
10:04
doing it so long now yeah it's just like
10:07
this is just my life now man it don't
10:09
even it it don't even phase me it's just
10:12
like I just wake up and just do what I
10:15
need to do for my life it feels
10:17
sustainable yeah yeah yeah keep going
10:20
cuz I don't I don't um I'm still here
10:23
that's the thing like we still here
10:25
right now today you know what I'm saying
10:27
where I can still give you you know
10:29
saying the album of the Year Contender
10:31
there you go you know what I'm saying
10:33
like I said because the thing about it
10:34
is again I'm I'm here fresh from a party
10:37
I I'm not sleep you don't see me with no
10:40
Entourage you don't see me with nobody
10:43
everybody else was partying all night he
10:45
came by himself I'm by myself that lets
10:47
you know literally by himself like we
10:50
were waiting for names since yesterday
10:52
and it was like why not send the Nam
10:54
like it's only one name well who is it
10:57
like him all right but I to say why that
11:00
like you do so much you laid it out you
11:02
know like professionally all of the
11:05
different branches and then also your
11:07
personal life of a father like what does
11:09
rest actually look like CU you're still
11:11
a human and we've had so many
11:13
conversations about our physical
11:15
well-being our spiritual well-being in
11:17
Hip Hop I don't want burnout to catch up
11:20
with you especially with the level of
11:22
output that you so generously give us
11:25
yeah I mean you know all year long I had
11:29
no pressure on me let me just say that
11:31
you know what I'm saying uh you know
11:33
this how the album even came about kind
11:35
of it was just like um I went to Paris
11:38
fashion week in January M
11:41
and I never came back you know what I'm
11:46
saying that's why so much of the dock
11:49
show you out there yes I never came back
11:52
you know what I mean I just start
11:54
traveling you know what I'm saying and
11:55
seeing the
11:56
world and then I start seeing places I
11:59
ever seen and it was dope and um you
12:02
know that's when I was just making the
12:04
album I go to Athens Greece I make a I
12:06
make a song I go to sanini I make a song
12:09
I go to London I make a song I go to
12:12
Copenhagen make a song you know what I
12:14
mean I go to Germany and make a song I
12:17
None of the songs was made in the states
12:19
the whole album was made overseas wow
12:21
really yeah woo did you see a difference
12:23
in like the ease and the speed that it
12:25
took to create um because that's the
12:27
thing usually I make everything 2 three
12:29
days right but this that's I said it was
12:31
no pressure this year was the first year
12:33
I actually just lived life for the first
12:35
time in my career wow you know I'm
12:37
saying like like I said it was just like
12:41
it was just a blessing you know what I'm
12:42
saying I I I took you know my babies to
12:45
the pyramids and oh you know what I'm
12:47
saying it's like my my daughter two
12:49
years old she know what the Eiffel Tower
12:52
is
12:54
likey loved it man py loved it man py
12:57
was mad cuz we didn't go last other day
12:59
you know the bills played in London yeah
13:02
man she was mad we wasn't at that game
13:04
boy got taste boy too hey you no more
13:06
you know she can't fly coach no more you
13:08
know that n n n but see py man like I
13:11
say you know py been there my whole
13:13
career she was born when I did my first
13:16
take well I ain't going to say the first
13:18
take cuz of course I tried back in 05 04
13:20
but I mean you know current you know
13:23
what I'm saying but um man that was the
13:26
year she was born so it just like my
13:28
whole career py was there so I I've been
13:31
having py you know that fly guy that Dro
13:34
she was probably like two or three and
13:36
she just been there my whole career you
13:38
know what I'm saying so she been there
13:40
as the growth and it's crazy to see my
13:42
daughter now you know her friends in
13:45
school nor her daddy now it's
13:48
crazy that's crazy cuz it's like you
13:51
know what I mean she done seen all of
13:52
that know get props at school too they
13:54
love love she extra protected too but
13:57
that's one of the the the products of
13:59
our success at coming through rap you
14:01
know like I remember my daughter first
14:03
going to her high school and and the
14:06
kids knowing about Sway in the morning
14:07
and the freestyles and the you know the
14:10
uh you know the Doomsday Cipher and they
14:12
asking all these things and I took pride
14:15
cuz they respected what I do that they
14:17
gave her that respect but Dam Westside
14:20
gun also thought downn what if I do some
14:23
[ __ ] that embarrasses embarrasses her
14:25
you know so it kind of limited how I
14:28
used mic right and what I do in front of
14:31
the camera it definitely governed the
14:33
way cuz I could get nutty and then you
14:36
know what I mean right and then when she
14:38
start getting of age I was like I can't
14:39
say the [ __ ] I've been saying on here
14:41
cuz her kids these kids are listen you
14:43
have do you are you cognizant of that
14:45
when you move I'mma Be honest I I'm
14:50
not that was the nicest answer he's like
14:53
yeah he wasn't
14:54
go n cuz if I got to bust somebody [ __ ]
14:58
pause [ __ ] getting bu it don't matter it
15:01
don't matter who they py my other little
15:03
ones my
15:06
mama real for real no I'm I'm I'm I'm
15:10
dead serious about that one like you
15:12
know like I like you know what I mean
15:14
it's not to sound crazy but like you
15:17
like I say man py you know I I love my I
15:21
love my baby cuz I'm just I'm just me
15:23
you know what I'm saying like I'm a
15:25
standup dude I move with morals and
15:27
principles so it's not like I go out of
15:28
character a lot if I go out of character
15:30
she know it had to be the other person
15:32
that did something to my dad cuz my dad
15:34
don't move like that you know what I'm
15:37
saying I know my dad he don't move like
15:39
that so if it escalated had to be you
15:42
know from the other side so you know she
15:44
going to give me the wink give Daddy
15:47
this kind of makes me think of a
15:49
conversation that has been storming
15:51
around hip-hop this week on what does
15:55
rapping your age sound like you know
15:59
you're in your early 40s what does that
16:01
mean to you and how important or not
16:04
important what are the pros and cons of
16:06
doing this at this stage of the game I
16:09
honestly feel man it don't even matter
16:12
just have fun you know what I'm saying
16:14
it don't matter man just have fun man um
16:19
you know I'm I'm a firm I I bridge the
16:22
gap now I've been Bridging the Gap you
16:24
know what I'm saying because I I have
16:25
fans like I said py age I have pop UPS
16:29
lying all the way down to block kids
16:31
don't can't even come there byself they
16:33
got their grandparents bringing them so
16:35
they could buy a shirt and all of that
16:36
so they could wear the school you know
16:38
what I'm saying so it's just like um I I
16:42
came into the game at 30 so you know
16:46
what I'm saying it's just like I I you
16:49
know I just feel like I really honestly
16:51
I don't like the haters man you know
16:53
what I'm saying like I don't really like
16:55
the um acting like the young boys is not
16:58
nice
17:01
I don't like that you know I'm saying
17:04
like you how can you understand it if
17:07
you 45 and he's 16 you know what I'm
17:10
saying he's 19 he's 22 like how can you
17:15
understand that it's a different
17:16
language and that's their art you can't
17:18
knock that you know what I'm saying like
17:19
it's their art yeah it's like you know
17:21
what I mean you just because you don't
17:23
you know understand it don't mean that
17:26
you know that's not culture you know
17:27
what I'm saying because you got you got
17:29
to move with the times and um I'm just
17:33
like I said I I'm always me and at this
17:35
point in my life now like I said I I
17:37
went to Paris I just so this album even
17:40
sound different because like now you're
17:42
going to hear me you're going to hear
17:45
the before was like this the East Side
17:47
Buffalo Westside gun now this is the you
17:50
know what I'm saying me eating fing
17:52
young staring at the Coliseum yeah
17:54
interational Play It's Global gun Global
17:58
gun
17:58
[Laughter]
18:01
you know so like so that's why this
18:02
album is different like you might not
18:04
ever get this sound again yeah you know
18:06
what I'm saying because it's just like
18:08
it was just a moment you know what I'm
18:09
saying and I I wasn't thinking about
18:12
somebody going to like it or not or man
18:15
this this this on a trap beat is is am I
18:18
going to lose my core fans cuz I'm I'm
18:20
the king of this underground [ __ ] they G
18:22
to look at me and be like no not not not
18:24
Westside gun You Can't Rap on the Trap
18:27
like why not mhm you know what I'm
18:29
saying what you like why not like I I'm
18:32
you know man just have fun you know what
18:34
I'm saying whatever come to your heart
18:36
longest is pure man just do you cuz
18:39
somebody going to hate
18:41
regardless somebody going to hate so be
18:43
happy man play that I want to add to
18:45
that uh I like that having happy because
18:49
I was talking to I actually got to
18:51
witness a a moment that I can bring up
18:53
because uh Gabriel Luna the actor came
18:56
here uh a couple years ago he's
18:57
promoting Terminator dark fate when he
18:59
played the Rev N9 and he was talking
19:01
during the interview about how much he
19:02
loved Griselda and he was such a huge
19:04
fan didn't realize that Westside was
19:06
coming up that day I remember that and
19:07
ever since then they've been tight
19:09
friends and so I hit Gabe last night and
19:11
I was like yo we got Westside coming by
19:12
tomorrow he said yo I saw him briefly
19:14
when we performed um when he performed
19:16
at aew show in Buffalo last year
19:18
congratulate him on his new film for me
19:20
and also I don't know if he's watching
19:21
any NXT but ask him if he watched uh
19:23
dragonov versus hay 2 match of the
19:27
year I didn't
19:29
I didn't watch it I heard about it um I
19:32
was busy at that time but you know I I I
19:37
just watched it uh
19:39
Tuesday that's the thing like you know
19:41
if I'm if I'm not busy you know of
19:43
course sometimes if you busy you can't
19:45
help that you traveling you moving
19:46
around you can't help that um that
19:49
probably had to be one of them you know
19:50
traveling days but like I said I watch
19:53
wrestling faith I watch wrestling four
19:55
days out of out of seven you know what
19:57
I'm saying like for real for real like I
19:59
I only watch
20:01
TV um to watch
20:04
wrestling I don't I don't watch TV I
20:07
feel like your work ethic is is
20:08
reminiscent of like those old wrestlers
20:10
who would just you know they went to
20:11
every show gig no matter how much they
20:13
were getting paid how many you know they
20:15
hadn't eat slept or whatever but they
20:16
just worked their ass off cuz they knew
20:18
it would pay off in the long run and you
20:20
know the physical toll that it takes on
20:22
them but you're kind of in control in
20:23
that same way yeah yeah n for sure you
20:26
know what I'm saying like it's it's just
20:28
the grind you know what I'm saying and
20:30
and you know I love because I'm a real
20:33
wrestling head so I know when people
20:36
first come and then I love to see the
20:37
growth of like when they finally make it
20:39
to be a champion or you know what I'm
20:42
saying they be like yo you know what I'm
20:44
saying but then I get too invested
20:46
because that be my man and when
20:47
[ __ ] lose I like
20:49
yo take the belt
20:51
off about to call Vince about to call
20:54
Vince you got Vince number nah hell no
20:58
oh
21:00
[ __ ] it's coming I feel it V Vince not
21:03
coming to the party Vince ain't coming
21:04
to the party Paul will be there all
21:07
right Paul going to be there man hey we
21:09
got Westside gun up in here we
21:11
celebrating and then you pray for me uh
21:13
I'm open up these phone lines 888 742
21:18
3345 I will say in this year we've had a
21:22
lot of guests on this show and people
21:25
get you know look really great when they
21:27
come up here the energy is right you
21:28
know people uh enjoy being in our
21:30
environment like we enjoy having them in
21:32
it but if we did an award show today
21:36
talk about it on the Flyers ice that
21:40
we've seen in
21:42
2023 in this room hands down Westside
21:46
gun wins the award there you go it the
21:50
sway in the morning with Heather be and
21:51
Tracy G award for the flyest
21:54
ice of the year your wrist is making me
21:57
tired these called the my God the well
21:59
you
22:01
know I do want to say this though I did
22:04
leave like the other seven chains at
22:07
home I really wanted to come here
22:10
ignorant as hell right I swear I
22:15
did ah but you know I'm still I'm still
22:18
from party mode you know what I'm saying
22:20
I I I you know I'm hot with this jacket
22:22
on but [ __ ] it cost I hey man this
22:25
[ __ ] cost 8,000 I ain't taking
22:27
it off hey can I try it on I never wore
22:30
a
22:31
jacket i
22:35
t how many times can you wear this
22:39
today that's why it's still on what size
22:41
is it right pass that that's still on
22:43
man XL no it's like a large I could
22:46
feelit a large I've been in the
22:48
gym you
22:50
know this never came out in the states
22:53
man this is this is Gucci only made
22:55
three of these [ __ ] it stand up bro
22:56
let's see yeah Gucci only made three of
22:58
these man this is a racing suit
23:00
Gucci 12,000 damn n it's too different
23:06
wow it's too different it's royal blue
23:09
full satin you know sede is going to be
23:11
hosting something soon and he needs an
23:13
outfit one Music Festival in Atlanta I
23:15
promise I promise you you can wear
23:17
it sway you better thank me for that
23:21
[ __ ] yo got I'm not signing no waiver or
23:24
nothing if Shen I promise I promise you
23:27
you could wear it my man Westside gun
23:30
8888
23:31
742 3345 I might need a chain to go with
23:34
the jacket y'all shave 45 Sway in the
23:37
Morning Heather B Tracy G yeah yeah yeah
23:40
yeah Westside gun Global gun in the
23:45
building I like you got to get like a uh
23:48
like another language of like his adids
23:50
you know what I'm saying like something
23:51
in French or do can we hear all your
23:55
adbs that's I'm going to make a new one
23:58
all right
23:59
what the hell was
24:01
that everybody understands what that
24:03
means across the
24:05
world it's kind of scary how accurate
24:08
you are with that noise cuz sway was
24:10
having a little bit of trouble I feel
24:12
like sway needs a tutorial what side gun
24:16
yeah yeah yeah yeah cuz you
24:18
had the other one you was
24:21
doing that
24:23
that's stop shoo that
24:25
little was a water cut you shoot wasn't
24:28
the Westside gun that was a little ass
24:30
PE gun right there little starter pistol
24:34
yeah yeah help him out W that's good I
24:36
mean you know I just what hear that let
24:38
me do that
24:42
again that's the one the one
24:45
shoter got a good ass aim when you pull
24:48
that one out oh [ __ ] yeah that was the
24:51
walk up the walk up right all right
24:54
Westside gun is here we talking about
24:56
the new album and then you pray for me
24:58
so we went for pray for Paris to then
25:01
you pray for me you had that figured out
25:05
already I said that
25:08
um on my Eric B record you know what I'm
25:11
saying on on part two of the series I I
25:14
said that then you know what I'm saying
25:16
so that's that's me saying that a decade
25:18
ago of just like pray for parison you
25:20
pray for me and um you know it was when
25:23
it was time for the sequel it was just
25:25
like that was just like the most fitting
25:27
thing I can think of just like how
25:29
perfect could it be to just you know
25:31
what I mean let it roll like that you
25:32
know what I mean that that was just a
25:33
part of my genius and [ __ ] and just you
25:36
know um you know the first time you know
25:39
pray for Paris came out in
25:41
2020 you know like I said it was a
25:43
different time it was the first time I
25:45
ever had winter Parish Fashion Week you
25:48
know I was out there with vir man rest
25:50
in power to vir man man you know what I
25:53
mean he you know he Des zank this this
25:56
Mona liso on my neck you know what I'm
25:57
saying um but it was just a different he
26:00
did the album cover too right of course
26:02
yes yep he did both covers you know what
26:03
I'm saying so it's just like um when I
26:06
went this year it was the same energy as
26:08
the first time I went so it was just
26:10
like it was only right that um I made
26:13
just part two because for a while you
26:16
know PE it's it's corny like sometimes
26:18
you make sequels and it don't live up to
26:20
the height you know what I'm saying it's
26:21
like I don't I never want to come out
26:23
with like Fly Guy to you know what I'm
26:26
saying cuz it's like how like why you
26:29
know what I'm saying I never you know
26:31
it's it's certain albums is like okay
26:34
like I did fly God is a awesome guy too
26:37
that made sense you know what I'm saying
26:39
um but it was just like you know a lot
26:42
of a lot of albums you just leave alone
26:44
you know what I'm saying because you
26:45
know you don't want to mess up the
26:46
Legacy just let it be just come out with
26:49
something else another title cuz you put
26:51
too much pressure on your back if you
26:53
made a the first one was a classic and
26:55
now you know what I'm saying you trying
26:57
to uh
26:58
cuz you comp with you don't have to
27:01
because that project is a part of your
27:02
team you shouldn't compete with your
27:04
team and and and that's the thing I
27:05
think it's just like a lot of people put
27:07
that pressure on them seriously though
27:08
and it's just like yo you know
27:11
because you know the hype be real like
27:14
you just gotta you know I mean you got
27:15
to perform at all times and if you like
27:17
I said I could come out right now people
27:19
hate this album they gonna be like yo
27:20
you should have never did that but I Got
27:23
Confidence enough to be like nah can't
27:26
nobody [ __ ] with this [ __ ] and I this is
27:28
the same energy I had when I was sitting
27:30
with Virgil you know the same energy as
27:34
the first one you know what I'm saying
27:35
so like I said this might have uh more
27:38
sounds on it and that's just because I'm
27:41
catering to more people now I'm I'm I'm
27:44
experiencing more cultures now yeah um
27:48
my life is just different now like I
27:49
said I don't know if another sound like
27:52
this again this was just a moment and if
27:55
people if it sounds on here that you not
27:57
familiar with or you really don't you
27:59
know [ __ ] with cuz like I said people
28:01
have that hater mentality they don't
28:03
understand what they don't know and
28:05
that's fine you know what I'm saying
28:06
because you know the thing about me a
28:10
lot of people when it when it come to
28:11
this [ __ ] when it come to like rankings
28:13
or is Westside gun night you know I mean
28:15
you know they always say you know Conway
28:18
you know uh and Benny you know I mean is
28:19
The Lyricist and all of that but the
28:22
thing about it is that's because them
28:23
same people that say that they don't
28:26
understand what I'm saying they never
28:27
been locked up they never had a $10,000
28:31
outfit they never they don't drive what
28:34
I drive they don't wear what I wear they
28:37
don't eat what I eat they haven't been
28:39
where I've been they never really been
28:40
in no raids they never really been in no
28:42
shootouts they really never had you know
28:45
what I'm saying none of that [ __ ] for
28:47
real you know what I'm saying and again
28:49
you know this is the first time you ever
28:51
seen buffalo in your life we had it we
28:53
had it very very hard you know what I'm
28:56
saying so it's like we done been through
28:57
a lot man you know what I'm saying and
28:59
it's just like you know like I up to
29:03
this point I wanted to show the world
29:05
Buffalo that was my purpose like I I had
29:08
an agenda because it was just like we've
29:13
been sliding too long and if I'm going
29:15
to do this [ __ ] I got to let people know
29:17
where I'm from you know the stories what
29:19
it's about and for you know for us to
29:22
get you know our respect you know what
29:24
I'm saying because we always been
29:26
slighted forever you know what I mean we
29:28
we don't you know our sports teams was
29:30
losing we I'm saying you know for for a
29:34
long time we we not losing no more you
29:36
know what I'm saying okay but it's just
29:38
like you know the energy in the streets
29:40
now is just like you know my my city got
29:43
son to be proud of you know what I'm
29:45
saying and um you know I'm just happy to
29:47
still be here and I'm I'm I'm not I'm
29:49
not going to stop pushing the culture
29:51
man as long as I got two feet man I'm
29:54
I'm pushing this culture man Westside
29:55
gun he got his own day what day is
29:57
Westside gun in Buffalo oh man August
30:00
28th man West Gun day there you go man
30:03
we got uh let me see Nick on the line
30:04
from the Bronx Nick what up from theie
30:07
down Bron yo what's good everybody how
30:09
y'all doing hey hey hey hey what's up
30:11
man great morning bro man listen I got
30:14
nothing but man these guys have changed
30:18
the game forever thank you my brother
30:20
they the coldest in the game right now
30:23
ain't nobody on these guys levels and
30:25
I'm from the Bronx I'm from New York I
30:27
acknowledge the greatness that come from
30:28
here but right now Westside Conway Benny
30:32
38 spe do God these guys are put in New
30:36
York on the top of the top none of their
30:40
albums got skipped I just listen to that
30:43
[ __ ] man a nobody doing it like them
30:46
ain't nobody doing it like I promise if
30:48
you listen to these albums any of these
30:50
albums that came out in 2022 from these
30:51
guys no skips no skips on none of these
30:55
albums beyond belief 10 can of talk for
30:59
God don't make mistakes they it ain't
31:02
nobody [ __ ] with y'all right now and
31:04
I got to say man I appreciate what y'all
31:06
doing thank [ __ ] man I just I just love
31:09
what y'all doing to the game I call y i
31:11
call y'all kind of rap this boom sure
31:12
but I call it cold rap cold
31:17
rapalo cold boy
31:20
cold up there in Buffalo man come on 10
31:23
toes down in the winter in Buffalo you a
31:25
cold [ __ ] I heard that
31:31
[Music]
31:33
C thank you my brother man now belov man
31:36
and you right no skips no skips [ __ ] I
31:39
almost said thank you man all them props
31:42
I felt grisela I am Gisela in case y'all
31:44
didn't know for sure come on man come on
31:47
man hey man you're a citizen brother
31:48
thanks for your hey Curt is from Buffalo
31:50
man come on Kurt Big C come
31:55
on yo yo yo
31:59
hey man yo you know I'm from the city
32:01
man yo Westside man hey man I love what
32:04
you're doing man I don't even think you
32:05
remember me I Wasing on Bailey Avenue at
32:09
the Bailey Fish Market Kirk don't do
32:11
that wait you uh oh he you triggered
32:13
something you said what
32:15
happened I was a little [ __ ] on daily
32:17
Fish Market with my older brother we
32:19
used to hang out you know I remember y'
32:22
used to come through Good Year I grew up
32:23
in goody year in in Bailey okay yeah
32:27
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah only only only
32:30
only thing is Good Year and belly don't
32:32
even connect my brother that's not even
32:35
a that's not even an intersection belly
32:38
Good Year don't good year off Gennesse
32:40
that's not belly come on
32:43
Kurt was a buffalo impostor yo it's like
32:47
the get out of here he was doing so good
32:50
you you cannot call the wrong corners
32:53
and streets when you talking about
32:55
somebody's neighborhood wow
32:58
we talking Montana we talking Nevada we
33:01
talking Mosel we talking Good Year
33:03
that's not biley my brother that's not
33:05
Bailey right you not giselda no but no
33:08
Kurt thanks for supporting we
33:11
clowning Kurt we clowning Kurt he
33:13
remember you you and your brother used
33:15
to be out in front of the grocery I
33:17
remember come on shoes on in the Hat hey
33:20
James what up man welcome to the show
33:21
Big J what up yo yo yo yo rising sign
33:25
the sway you know try D shout outs to
33:27
have the be
33:29
T light o just want to say you know R
33:32
sign yo West Side gun I learned about
33:34
you from my brother-in-law to my step
33:37
brother Brian you he put me on to like
33:38
the whole underground hipop era that's
33:40
how I learned about you guys in gelda I
33:42
just want to see you guys are dope but
33:44
my my question for you is where did you
33:46
get the idea to make Mar jalous split
33:47
toes because every time I throw that
33:49
beat on on the sound system or surround
33:50
time I think gota y gota play that that
33:53
that that Baseline the lyrics yo
33:56
everything is dope you guys are great
33:58
it's forever fire all right thank you
34:00
shout out to Mami as well you know what
34:03
I'm saying yes sir you know we made a
34:05
classic with that pray for Haiti man you
34:07
know what I'm saying
34:08
just you know like I always say man
34:11
Westside gun I still gonna give you what
34:14
I give you but let's not forget I'm
34:16
always curating the other best albums of
34:19
the year you know what I'm saying so
34:21
it's like true you you curate their
34:22
projects yeah like let's not forget that
34:25
and and it it all like when you get a
34:26
Westside gun cated project yeah I pick
34:30
Every Beat I name the songs I put them
34:34
in order I do the cover you know what
34:37
I'm saying I do the merch that's what
34:39
I'm telling you Westside gun does it all
34:42
like I have time to you know I mean so
34:44
when you get a Rome streets kiss the
34:45
ring when you get a Armani Caesar Liz
34:48
when you get a bod James you know what
34:50
I'm saying vers tape when you get uh you
34:54
know stack knacksaw Jim Duncan which is
34:57
the hardest album of the year period
35:00
sonically because just the the style of
35:02
St neack is a oneof one which is rare in
35:05
today's game you know what I'm saying so
35:07
to have a one ofone one MC and just the
35:10
production was crazy we we flew out to
35:13
uh Dominican Republic shot the shot the
35:15
video out in 42 in the hood you know
35:18
what I'm saying I got on my [ __ ] I was
35:20
glistening in out there man in the 42
35:24
shout out to the 42 and all my you know
35:26
Dominicans man 42 that's the
35:28
neighborhood out there
35:30
yeah them [ __ ] W boys what up
35:34
to the 42 shout out to
35:35
the
35:37
problem boy I'm talking about man you
35:41
know it it was a it was an experience
35:43
that I never forget that was like the
35:45
first time where
35:46
like I went somewhere and like they was
35:49
hanging off like the top of the trucks
35:52
yeah in the you know what I'm saying
35:54
like we had to literally like because
35:56
you know everybody you know they was I
36:00
ain't going to say they was hungry but
36:02
you know what I'm saying it was just
36:03
like you know a lot of people was like
36:05
yo look out you know what I'm saying and
36:07
I never knew it was I never knew it was
36:09
like that over there I was you know you
36:12
hear about the Dominican Republic I'm
36:14
I'm I'm came out there to be on some fly
36:16
[ __ ] you know what I'm saying you
36:17
thought you was going to punana yeah
36:20
okay thought I was on a resort or some
36:25
[ __ ] man I went I went I went over there
36:29
it was it was some of the Gammy she ever
36:30
seen in my life you know what I'm saying
36:32
and and like I said I I wasn't even
36:34
prepared for that but it was just fun
36:36
but like I said I wish I could have gave
36:38
back more yeah you see what I'm saying
36:40
because it's just like you know when you
36:43
when you go to when you go to people's
36:45
City you you can't stun on them nah you
36:48
see what I'm saying and um that wasn't
36:52
my intention you know what I'm saying it
36:53
was it kind of like broke me like a
36:56
little bit because it was like I'm
36:57
looking at kids like damn like can I get
36:59
a dollar can I get a I get that d d you
37:02
know I'm trying to give out as much as I
37:04
can then you run out you be like and now
37:06
you still got like 30 kids like you know
37:09
what I'm saying like I I haven't ate in
37:11
two days you be like oh [ __ ] you know
37:14
what I'm saying and it was just when it
37:16
was time to leave man they they was they
37:19
was on them trucks boy like they it it
37:21
was just it was crazy to see so told
37:25
theom of course and I told the homies
37:28
you know I want to go out there again in
37:30
December and just do a give back because
37:33
that's the thing like what now that I
37:34
seen it you know if you never seen
37:36
something you don't know but now that I
37:39
didn't seen it I feel like it's my duty
37:41
to go back and at least do something for
37:44
that Community just from the heart and
37:45
I've been cool with like the you know
37:47
what I mean the homies that like run
37:48
over there like them they family now
37:50
like they like what you coming back you
37:52
know what I'm saying we stay in touch
37:54
all the time like they reach out at
37:56
least once a week you know say so man
37:58
I'm coming back to the 42 we got we got
38:00
do we got to do something for the kids
38:02
over to Haiti
38:04
too
38:05
sure from Haiti her yo when you do that
38:08
let me know okay I've been the Dr I
38:11
would love to go over there again I've
38:12
been the Dr but I've been on them
38:14
Resorts looking at but different agenda
38:18
the
38:22
hell shout out to the 42 man to the 42
38:25
that's what's up man um man Westside gun
38:27
hey I want to say congratulations yes
38:30
thank you the the life that you have
38:33
offered is a great read and we ain't
38:37
even got halfway through the book you
38:39
doing all of these things on your own
38:42
rock the bells um brand with LL coolj
38:45
went from a song to a radio station to a
38:49
cruise to a to a a concert to a f i mean
38:53
a festival to a resort now my gosh yeah
38:58
Resort man I'm hosting something in
38:59
April Rock the bells in Cancun my cuz
39:03
it's l [ __ ] you mean you you mean
39:05
we
39:06
[ __ ] slow it down you can get your own
39:09
di you know you know so you know so um
39:13
Team outing so what when I hear you talk
39:16
about your vision it's more than just a
39:19
artist it's more than just a well it's
39:20
art in its different forms right it's
39:23
art and business the way you're doing it
39:26
what is your vision for the giselda
39:27
brand now it's it's not just a a music
39:30
label M I mean um that's the thing man
39:33
sky the limit because I'm just getting
39:36
started like I'm I'm a I'm a you know a
39:38
Creator man yeah you know what I'm
39:40
saying like I've been doing this since
39:42
day one it took a little longer than a
39:45
lot of people cuz again I'm from a city
39:47
where we just didn't have the
39:49
resources and even when you went a
39:51
streets it was like even when we was
39:53
trying to rap back in the day is like
39:55
with with no resources and really like
39:58
nobody behind you to really like give
40:00
you like the man come under my wing you
40:03
know what I'm saying let me show you the
40:05
way you know um it really wasn't that it
40:08
was like drug dealers buying studio
40:12
equipment said and just cooking like
40:15
that's and then we playing it and
40:17
smoking and vibing and you know it might
40:19
be on some buffalo [ __ ] and we we move
40:21
in the grooving like that but like
40:24
nobody had really like was just like yo
40:26
no we about to just you know I mean but
40:28
I
40:29
always always been a leader you know
40:31
what I'm saying I always been a Creator
40:33
I always been kind of like a head of the
40:34
game and that's why you know I knew it
40:37
was going to pop you know what I mean
40:39
with Conway but then that's when he got
40:40
shot yeah and then it was just like okay
40:42
what what we going to do now because the
40:45
energy was already there it's like for
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the first time like you got to think at
40:48
that time nobody had never made it from
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my city so we for the first time in
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history we starting to get traction mhm
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then he got shot it's like damn what we
40:58
going to do and then that the business
41:00
of me was just like yo the business in
41:03
me came in before the raer came in me
41:06
was the business guy before the MC you
41:09
know what I'm saying and also I was
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doing clothes so you know grisela by
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fashion Rebels was before grzela record
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so that's what I'm saying so that's why
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Westside gun is a little different
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because I was already doing the fashion
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I wasn't a rapper then all of a sudden
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was like Hey I want to do a clothing
41:24
line like everybody else you know what
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I'm saying I was actually designer first
41:29
and you know like I said man at that
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time it was just like the business in me
41:34
kicked in like yo I I'm nicer than 90%
41:37
of the game you know what I'm saying
41:39
they they rapping about selling
41:42
drugs I'm really selling drugs like
41:44
right
41:48
now you I mean something in my hand i'm
41:52
everybody everybody chill no for real
41:55
like everything that they was you know
41:57
about we was already living like you
41:59
know what I'm saying like moving like
42:00
that already yeah and it was just like
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yo n let me just let me let me go hard
42:05
with this you know what I'm saying
42:06
because like I said I could talk about
42:08
it now but I was hustling all the way to
42:11
like part four or five in the series you
42:14
know what I'm saying for real like like
42:16
I said because you know that's all we
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really had it wasn't like we was making
42:20
no money off the music we was really
42:22
still just trying to get the name lit
42:24
you know I mean the most I might make is
42:26
off some vinyl or some merch or it was
42:29
just like but I'm not you know what I'm
42:32
saying driving no rollsroyce you know
42:34
what I'm saying I'm not and all the all
42:36
the [ __ ] I'm seeing everybody else doing
42:37
it I I actually thought was bums like
42:40
cuz that's the thing like you thought
42:42
wack dudes was getting rewards yeah I'm
42:44
like yeah like nah hold on nah nah we we
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we could take this [ __ ] over and I never
42:49
look back there you go man the story of
42:51
Griselda movie coming soon I'm narrating
42:56
I just threw that out there see how that
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that be super F I'm there hey promise
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you if you if you you make the lane you
43:01
want my voice to lend to it I'm there
43:03
y'all heard this yeah man I'm giving it
43:05
to you right this is the voice I would
43:07
probably choose to use when I narrate
43:09
that octave you know in 2004
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2005 in Buffalo New York there was a
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movement on the break of
43:20
explosion
43:24
Gela better that's better better better
43:26
come come man all right man hey brother
43:29
I'm proud of you I'm inspired by you we
43:32
are in your corner yes we are all right
43:35
keep going the man showed up by himself
43:38
the man didn't even go home he came
43:40
straight from the club he's still
43:42
sweating out whatever he was
43:44
drinking 42 I was drinking a 42 okay and
43:49
I don't even drink it's crazy cuz I
43:51
don't drink with champagne you know what
43:52
I'm saying but like last
43:55
night man what well
43:58
today that was just a couple hours ago
44:01
bro man we just living life man we
44:03
having fun even my even my mama in New
44:05
York City right now man we have even my
44:07
mom's out here man OG
44:10
Connie where it all started from you
44:12
know this all started from you know my
44:14
mom and and and Benny mom man them
44:16
growing up together their whole life you
44:18
know what I'm saying they used to run
44:19
the streets and and oh no that was they
44:21
was
44:22
Infamous goodness Connie and Bs man wow
44:27
the the movie could just start with them
44:30
Connie and Babs that's the title what a
44:33
Duo that's my man Matt he's a filmmaker
44:36
y'all might need to connect and let's
44:38
you know I know you already got your own
44:40
thing but he's a great Visionary right
44:42
there sir all right man Westside gun
44:44
give it up for Westside gun come on man
44:47
hey and then you pray for me Friday the
44:51
13th tomorrow tomorrow the album is out
44:54
we going to end with a song no one has
44:56
heard yet
44:57
all right but we want to thank um um all
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our guests so far this who do we have
45:01
today just Westside gun yeah we want to
45:04
thank all our guest for coming through
45:07
today I mean that [ __ ] jewelry
45:09
are guests of their own we have to put
45:11
their names on the security list
45:13
wristband necklace
45:17
stupid Grill Long Live Virgil man Long
45:20
Live Virgil what did Virgil think did he
45:23
did he ever make it to Buffalo nope no
45:27
nope and you know that's the thing man
45:29
like he definitely would have yeah I
45:31
think if I would even asked him he would
45:33
have you know what I'm saying it you
45:34
know it's always about time you know I'm
45:36
a person I'm not about to Sweat Nobody
45:38
or nothing like I let people just be
45:40
like yo man I want to come up there and
45:42
[ __ ] with you see what it's about and
45:43
then it be like that you know what I'm
45:45
saying I'm not one of them people that's
45:46
just you know a nag or you know what I
45:48
mean I don't really like asking people
45:50
for favors much I just like kind of
45:52
things just happen organically so I'll
45:54
be waiting for people to be like yo man
45:55
I never been a buff I want to come see
45:57
it and then I'm going to just show you
45:58
the best time you ever had in your life
46:00
say
46:01
less I'm must I we'll exchange numbers
46:04
again so I could get that jacket all
46:07
right ass foul as
46:09
hell so brought it back from the
46:11
beginning to the end the way we started
46:14
this conversation the way we going end
46:16
this [ __ ] I'll be perfect to
46:18
narrate your doc all right hey man we
46:21
going to get to it man y'all stay on the
46:23
right side of positivity
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