'NOT DEER' - NATURE'S FREAKS or REAL MONSTERS? LIVE Chat - Q & A - Join Us! Lon Strickler (Host)

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the not deer was first described as a phenomena from the Appalachian
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but there have been similar sightings reported in other areas of recent years so what is the not beer
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um is it just a freaking nature or is it a legitimate Cryptid some say it manifests as a victim of
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zombie deer syndrome or some type of wasting disease and that may be true in
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some instances but generally Witnesses report an animal with the body
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of a deer but characteristics that parallel human behavior in physical
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attributes uh there are also a few instances where
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these animals are said to shape-shift into other animals so just sit back
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listen to the presentation and decide for yourself in this episode I will try to describe
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the reports and incidents in detail and answer all your questions from the
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chat room after I'm done with the presentation so first
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witness States I drove to a local convenience store here in Stroudsburg Pennsylvania in Monroe County to pick up
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something to eat my dog was with me and it was just before midnight
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everything was normal on the way there but on the way back something weird happened
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as I approached the stop sign outside of town my dog started growling
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my dog rarely growls so when he does I take notice
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I looked around and saw a deer walking toward the road from behind a large oak
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tree the deer then stepped out onto the road it's about 50 feet from me but then the
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deer starts to walk toward the headlights of my car as it gets closer I begin to see its
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face much clearer at first I it I literally shook my head in a bit of disbelief
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then I did a double take the deer had a freaking human face there was no elongated nose no big dark
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eyes it was a freaking person's face the eyes had white surrounded
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surrounding dark blue colored pupils and her forward setting looking directly
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at me I just froze I don't even remember my dog was
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growling at that point I was truly scared of what I was witnessing and kept looking at me for almost a
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minute then it turned turned
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to uh slowly walk away in the other side of the road and walked off into the woods
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stepped on the gas and got the heck out of there so when I got home I immediately went into my house and poured a stiff drink
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I need to know what I saw and went online I stayed up most of the night looking
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for an explanation for what I had witnessed now I read a few other accounts of what people referred to as
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not deer but nothing as dramatic as what I saw I'm beginning to believe what I
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witnessed the results of an experiment that went wrong I found your contact email during my
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research online can you give me an answer as to what I saw now the date was Monday June 26
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2023 so this is a fairly recent report now I did talk to the witness by
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telephone um I'm afraid I was too much help in the
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explanation it's not their Anonymous truly an enigma and I have really no answers for it but we continually get
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them you know get uh reports of these these sightings
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so the next witness States I stayed at after school one late December afternoon 2022
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uh in Roanoke Virginia area for a basketball game after the game
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I walked to the nearby Church lot waiting for my dad it was already dark and as I stood
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waiting I felt like someone who was or something was watching me I turned around and saw the shadow of a
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man behind a bush I instantly ran to the other side of the street I caught my breath and slowly
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walked back to the other side of the church uh so I would be able to see my dad drive up
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now as I stood there keeping an eye out for my dad and for other Shadows I saw two deer along the edge of the Woods
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I put some space between me and the deer now watch the deer as they began to move
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around I watched closely as one of the deer seemed to have a bad back leg or was
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injured I began to walk in the direction the deer in order to get a better look
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now when I came within 20 feet or so of the deer I stopped I was literally Frozen and terrified at
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the same time I realized that these were not deer
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they both had oddly shaped heads with patches of hair that seemed to be stitched onto their bodies
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it looked like human skin was underneath the patches then both deer looked in my direction
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and slowly stood up on their back legs they then started to run in my direction
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chase me back to the church lot I was yelling and running at the same time so loud that my dad heard me a
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block away I ran towards my home neighborhood but my dad happened to see me and called up
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now as he stopped ahead of me I jumped into the passenger and seat yelling go go
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he asked me what the hell was I yelling for I couldn't answer him I was absolutely
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freaked out the 10 minute drive home was surreal as I was thinking about what I had
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experienced and what was going what I was going to tell my dad and when we got home and after I calmed
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down a bit my mom and dad dining room table with me and listened to my description of the encounter
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they listened They Knew by my demeanor that something had really occurred
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and later that night while I was in my room watching television my dad came into my room and wanted to talk
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he told me about an encounter that he had had several years ago previously with a deer while he and my uncle were
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hunting into nearby mountains his description was very much like mine
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he had told my mom about it at the time so now I know why they didn't question
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my sanity when we talked can you tell me what I encountered that
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day I see references to wendigos and not deer when I started the research on Google
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is that what I witnessed is that what my dad witnessed thanks
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so I wrote back to which describe some of the not your sightings I've received in the encounters had been reported in
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the Appalachian Mountainside the forest he was talking about was George Washington National Forest which is also
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where the Appalachian Trail runs through in Southwest Virginia now relatively
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close to this location uh that I believe this first report um
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you proceed describing multiple not deer so um you know that rarely do we get
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multiple sightings at one time I mean they're usually just singular sightings
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but they had two deer act in the same manners pretty unused
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there's another one from South Central Virginia I live in the mountains I lived in the mountains South West
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South Central Virginia a pretty rural area my house is a townhouse in a
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neighborhood right next to a middle school and I've lived in this house for over 10 years and frequently went on
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walks during the daytime all around the neighborhood itself plus the surrounding buildings and woods
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but I've never gone on a walk at night here after starting College I got very
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accustomed to taking walks around my campus at night when the weather is nice so now that I'm
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home for winter break in Virginia is one of the weirdly warm winter months
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I decided I may go well I I may as well go on a walk at
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night since it's a safe area and night walks are almost daily routine for me now
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so I leave my house at around midnight I walk over to the middle school I sit
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down on the track the track is a concrete oval that goes around the soccer field
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I'm just sitting there relaxing listening to music with one earbud in I also had lit a candle on the ground a
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foot from me which sounds kind of weird of me to have but now that I type I mean now that I
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type it out now lighting candles while I sit and chill somewhere outside is just a habit of mine so I developed I
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developed it from having a ton of candles and being unable to light them in my room at college
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I hear what sounded like a cough so I instantly stopped my music and
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start looking around I don't see anything but um extremely
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paranoid person so I'm on edge even though everything seems fine I just sit there doing nothing for maybe
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one or two minutes and I start settling back down so I'm almost fully relaxed and then I
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hear the cough again and I see something Sprint on its back legs
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across the field faster than I've ever seen anything moved before and it gets to the other end of the field and then
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continues to stand there on its hind legs I couldn't see it super well because it
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was dark and far away since I had just heard coughing and I was right it was running on two leaves on legs I
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initially thought it was just the first but when it I was when it was standing
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there I could see those two large and weirdly proportioned to be a human
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it was also screeching the whole time like an incredibly loud horror movie
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creature screeching that made my ears ring it looked like its back was to me so I
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took the opportunity to pack up and Sprint home now I'm physically disabled and I can
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move around just fine but never very quickly I literally cannot think of another time
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in my life whenever I ran that fast the only sort of paranormal thing I
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believe is it's plain old ghost as soon as I got home I texted my friends about it and Googled all I could
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everyone I texted reassured me was probably just an injured or dis or
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disease since it you know a deer it made the deer act weirdly you know that can
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make a deer act weird like that so that's a little reassuring but at the
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same time I'm Googling about deer running on hind legs and screeching their head off
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and while as deeply documented occurrence and other pictures and videos on any websites or anywhere near what I
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saw I've read the scriptures of deer running on their hind legs and I watch videos of
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it in other videos I've really matched up to how strangely fast this thing was
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moving like it was just basically a blur running past me so I don't know what he
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thought maybe it was enough there may be something else he does
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so um this next encounter happened uh it doesn't say I can't stop they said
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it's fairly recent I couldn't stop thinking about it my family as a small formstead in the middle of
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nowhere Central Texas to the southeast of Austin the very rural all dirt roads only a
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couple of neighbors within a mile or so I usually walk with my dog into thick Woods on our property but sometimes we
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walk along the dirt roads because it's like we added to ourselves maybe five six cars will pass by our
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place in the country road during a given day and we were walking along the dirt road
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back home when we heard something crash in the woods off to our left
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I looked closely but didn't see anything he just figured it was an animal or a branch falling no big deal
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a few more steps and two coyotes burst out of the woods and crossed the road right in front of us
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this is weird because it's late in the day for coyoto's deactive but more so
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because they look huge for coyotes almost like wool size and we don't have
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wolves here anymore one of them looks kind of hunched over like it's hurt or it's a bipedal animal
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looping Along on all fours for some reason
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note and this comes to play later that I saw absolutely no antlers or anything my
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dog starts to act out of character okay so these big possibly injured coyotes run into the brush on the other
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side of the road my dog and I kind of stand there for a bit but then move on it's a country road and
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there are coyotes so whatever we round a corner here Here Comes one of
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the coyotes crossing the road again fast it scoots under the fence
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and I watch it run across the pasture pass some cattle who are totally unbothered by this big Predator running
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by that I call my dog back to me because I know the second was probably about to pop out
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and I don't want her getting in a fight but she definitely would lose here's where it gets a little weird
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doorknob outruns the second one it's the hunched over an injured looking one
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hits the fence line where there's a lot of low scrubby brush
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I wait for it to pop out on the other side and start watching to see how these cows are going to react
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but it doesn't come out kind of just disappears into a tiny patch of brush
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which doesn't seem at all big or dense enough to conceal it we slowly move closer to the fence
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to see if this coyotes hurt or hung up in the fence or something suddenly one of the biggest most majestic bucks
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male deer I've ever seen around here pops out of this fence line
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and runs into the field his antlers were huge big boy taller and
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more musculine most of our Central Texas deer he runs along a bit and then just turns
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and watches us he got closer to the fence to see what
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was up with the coyote but there was no coyote
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and know where a coyote could have hidden the deer still watching us and I don't know what to do so I just Shout
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good morning and say something I um we mean you no
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harm and walked home so yeah the big injured coyote kind of morphed into a big healthy Buck before
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my very eyes I guess it was probably a dear all along slumped down and slinking fast away from
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the coyote but that's weird because hey I saw the coyote twice and it looked like a coyote and had no antlers and B
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a big buck isn't going to run away from a lone coyote things are crazy out there in the sticks
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sometimes even in the middle of the day that's a weird one I have heard about
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him shaped there's been Shape Shifters uh you know I don't know if that's
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really part of the phenomena with the not gear but I thought that was kind of an interesting account
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uh the next account I was about 15 years old and I was going rifle hunting with
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my dad in Hell's Canyon area of northern Idaho not far from where we lived
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I had been bow hunting with my dad for about five years at that point we decided it was now old enough to care I
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was out now old enough to carry a gun so we went out to my dad's tree stand
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early one morning we had been there for a few hours and had not really heard or seen anything
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been about 50 yards away we saw a buck peek its head out into a clearing it was
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a beautiful eight point I raised my rifle and waited for it to step more into the clearing
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looking at it through my scope I noticed something was off about the way it moved
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as it came more into the open I noticed the bird looked weird by the
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right shoulder or the front shoulder I told my dad maybe we shouldn't shoot
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this one as it may be diseased or something and Dad pulled up his binoculars and looked under his breath
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he said what the hell now my dad outside of watching sports
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never cussed so they called me on guard I raised my
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gun and looked at it again the deer was fully and clear now and I could get a good look
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the front legs weren't legs at all they look like muscular human arms
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as if it was a buff guy in a suit but it didn't have hands it had Hooves
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on the end I asked my dad what to do and he said I have no idea shoot
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your gun in the air scare It Off he didn't want me shooting at it at it in case it was a person so I
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asked my dad why a person dressed as a deer would be in deep in the woods during hunting season he replied people
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are stupid I assume he was trying to stay as calm as he could
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I was about to freak out I fired my gun and it took off now we got to understand and walked to the
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area where we saw it now there were no tracks at all it had just rained a few
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days earlier so the ground was fairly soft and we could easily see our Footprints
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my dad's pretty good tracker but he saw no signs of anything in the area we decided to pack up and head back to
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the truck now we never really talked about it again and just brushed it off was a weird thing we saw we continue to
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hunt the area for several years after that so the next account I wanted to share my
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story on my own for quite some time I grew up in a rural part of Utah
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since we lived down south in the relatively boring area the only people
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boring area the only people we really saw were the Amish riding behind their carriage or an occasional traveler
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looking for abandoned property to explore um
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there wasn't a lot to do now when I wasn't helping my mom or plucking my
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banjo I often go out to the wheat field and climb up on my pops broken down
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tractor up there I could catch all kinds of lizards and snakes and if I was lucky I
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could see the deer walking through our wheat building to the bushy Forest so one incredibly hot afternoon
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I saw a line of deer emerge from the forest I always watched intently because if I
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was lucky I'd get to see one of the real big antlers leading the pack
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I saw the oddest thing that time even to my 10 year old mind I knew it this
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wasn't right the buck in the very front of the herd was walking on two legs
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now I've seen a lot of deer on their hind legs in my day usually when they fight
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it looks unnatural and strained but this Buck was walking on its two hind legs so
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casually and comfortably arms swinging at its sides as it walked along the
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trail like a human wearing a deer costume now we feel it isn't small by any means
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and I saw this Buck stride a good half mile almost into the bush before turning
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and staring directly at me man now let me tell you I'm I'll never
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not never in my life felt so much fear now before it met my eyes I was watching
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this creature with curiosity and confusion it was now Frozen absolute horror
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I don't know how to describe the fear and the dread that overcame me at the moment the closest feeling I can describe is
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that when we're about to get into a you're about to get into the car crash and you
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can't doing about it but all one oral warning signals fight or flight reflexes
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and the adrenaline are going off your head at once I was shaking to my core but I was
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unable to move from the tractor now this book stared at me for what felt like ours but it was most likely only a few
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moments then this creature walked into the forest along with his herd
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and I never seen anything like it in this to this day my mom told me I saw a
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knot there like the white man's version of a skinwalker turns out my cow chasing
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neighbor had seen a few too although his stories are much scary in mine whatever it was
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I'm glad it took off and left me alone
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so the next accountant here in Sleepy Hollow New York we have all kinds of crazy things the Headless Horseman is
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not one of them ghost demons and aliens every summer we see Ghost Hunters here
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but never in the winter until last year and we were playing paintball in the
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wintertime a group of 10 players who played for an hour before we ran out of paintballs
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retreated to the Rock Bridge to build a fire like we usually do my brother George and I heard something
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to the right and because there are leaves on the trees and there was snow on the ground the moon was bright and it
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illuminated this deer it was a normal looking deer it had no
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tail and the eyes were too far apart it also had an awful stench like death
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I told my brother not to make a sound now George is not one for Ghost and and didn't believe it fairy tales
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but when he saw it he's beside himself before we could turn around it saw us
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and screamed at us the rest of the crew heard it and wondered why we were freaking out
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we ran past him yelling let's go let's go now now they saw what we saw and they took off
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with us this thing was super fast the exit was a good mile run on the aqueduct Trail
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it took us 10 minutes to get back to the road we see the light on the road coming as
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we are getting close but this thing was right behind us screaming would get to the lake on the road and it
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stopped it's looking at us screaming The Neighbors come out cussing ass for
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all the noise and that she called the cops then she saw what we saw and ran inside
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screaming now as the cops show up this thing took off but my brother and I took a picture of
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this thing we got some great shots we showed them this thing to um
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to the cops and they told us not to come out here at night long story short we
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never talk about this and I don't like talking about it now a cousin is a cop here in town
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he was one of the cops that responded that night he's still until this day is scared to drive up there at night time
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so yes things have panic things you can't explain are real come to Sleepy
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Hollow New York you never know what you might see I wish I had the photographs this guy never sent any photographs to
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me so I assume he gave them to the cops I don't know
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speaking of Sleepy Hollow I've heard a lot of weird stories up there seriously they're just there's a lot going on up
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there so this doesn't surprise me
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now the next account it was about 11 p.m on a warm summer night and I was driving home from a friend's house on a roll
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back road here in Connecticut now from a distance I could see a police car with its lights on pulled up in the
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middle of my Lane park side by side with a pickup truck our first instinct was that maybe the
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truck had hit something or been pulled over but it was weird because the cop wasn't pulled up behind a truck like they
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usually do as part parallel to it I had my windows down because it was
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nice out and I could hear the cop in a man the car shouting in conversation through their windows
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I listened to the two talk from their windows and overheard the man in the truck say something like man something
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isn't right it's not hit or injured I just found it like that
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now this grown man had genuine fear in his voice it was just pointing frankly out his
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window going on and going about how they should just shoot it
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I turned my attention in the direction where this guy and copper pointing at and my headlights illuminate the sight
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of a deer that is sitting directly behind beside the cop's car
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it was extremely weird because the deer was sitting in perfect alignment with yellow lines on the road
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is that as if it had been intentionally trying to place itself there in direct middle of the two lanes
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this thing will actually look a proper statue the way it was assembled the way it has assembled itself
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now I can see a liquid pulled around the deer that I assume was blood
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until I realized that the deer was seemingly on injured and showed no visible signs of wounds or blood
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while scanning the scene from my car behind the cop I realized the liquid that was pulling around it wasn't blood
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but was Salata that was falling from the animal's mouth like a waterfall
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and collecting all over the road and down its neck its head was weirdly shaped skinnier
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than it should have contrasted to a giant body
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it was bobbling like a bobble head on a dashboard staring straight into the direction of the cop in the truck
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it looked hypnotized or something I thought maybe it had rabies
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and I kind of tuned into my then I kind of tuned into my body and my stomach and knotted up and my heart started to race
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I can't describe the feeling here but it sort of felt like I realized that time
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was moving super slow like a dream or a daze I was deciding if I should just wait
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there behind the Cars and go around the scene in the opposite lane when I noticed something else that was so off
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this deer was sitting in a position that a nerd me to no end the animal is literally sitting
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crisscross with its legs and its joints all contorted and pretzled in a way that
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seemed physically impossible unless it had been manipulated by someone that did that
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it was even more weird that it was sitting in that this way in the middle of the road and directly aligned with
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the yellow line it all looks so off in a disconnected
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and time-bending way I immediately felt this unfamiliar paralyzing fear inside my stomach and
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chest I felt like I was seeing something I shouldn't have or was someplace I
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shouldn't be I just wanted to get out of there so I slowly to avoid interaction with the cop veered into the opposite
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lane encrypt by the deer my intuition was strongly telling me not
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to look up my passenger side windows I inch past the animal who was now at eye
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level of my car and two feet away I ended up looking and when I did
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it was like this thing new before my eyes even hit it that I was looking at it the deer shot its head around to face
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me and locked eyes with me right as I looked at it I will never ever forget its eyes the
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feeling that he booked on me they were black darker than Shadows black and stared at me with some kind of
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intention or intelligence or something I was physically paralyzed and drawn to
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the complete stop for what felt like minutes while this deer just stared at me with its cold eyes
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I know this sounds crazy maybe it was just the fear but those moments I was
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making eye contact with it I felt like I was in a trance and like my whole life
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was sort of flashing before my eyes in a dreamy and terrifying way
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I felt like 10 seconds became 10 minutes in a weird vulnerability Like a Stranger
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walked in on me naked every hair in my body was standing up
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and my heart was racing and then it all just stopped and I snapped out of it and
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Drew on I was terrified the whole way home but also secure is for an explanation
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I'm trying to convince myself that was just a sick deer or that it was hit or maybe internally injured
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but some many details of How It's laser crossed and how it was placed and how I
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knew Allen knew that I was looking at it before I did and how its eyes looked and
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made me feel it all just felt weirdly paranormal unexplained
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I immediately hit the internet when I got home and discovered those diseases that make deer act off for first time
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heard about the not deer that logical side of me wants to chalk that experience I had up as a disease
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dear but the part of me that that felt and saw what I did just
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thinks there's something more to it and it was the hands down scariest experience of my life it really shook me
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for a while I felt unsettled around the deer ever since then around deer ever since and even though
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before the experience I used to really enjoy seeing them I like to know how to explain what I saw
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and experienced and that I what I experienced tonight but I'll never forget it
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so if you have a question go ahead and put it up this is my last account coming up
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so this is a very strange occurrence from what I was told since I hear that most not dear
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are founded in northern states near the Great Lakes furthermore this happened midday which is very rare let me tell
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you the story at the time I lived close to a park by the name of Bluff Creek
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right inside Hefner lake in northern northern Oklahoma City excuse me in
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Northern Oklahoma City it was a small apartment complex located in a Nook of Woodland areas hiking
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trails and large grassland pastures the place had a sanction ripped off area
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as a deer reservation where the herds would breed and it was a place where deer could live freely without being
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haunted this was such a lovely place to explore in well until this occurs
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so it was late in the afternoon early evening around 6 pm when I was eating a bag of Doritos and
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cuddling my boyfriend he was playing Red Dead Redemption on the Xbox suddenly I hear three knocks on our door
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we weren't expecting any delivery food or guests and we lived on the second floor I just for context our stairs were
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placed on the inside of our apartment so the the front door was ground level
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my boyfriend preoccupied with this game paid no attention to the noise coming from the door
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so I went down to go and see who was there probably just someone offering an extended vehicle warranty or something
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stupid like that so I hop down the creaky stairs and felt a presence
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lo and behold through the people I witnessed a deer not just any deer either
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it was standing on its back legs staring at me dead on and very peculiar blue
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eyes that looked like human eyes not an animal
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what in the world just then I caught a whiff of rotten flesh
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I turned around and shouted babe what the hell ugh
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laughing nervously I was certain he didn't hear me so I yelled out again baby you need to come see this
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he hurried downstairs and looked through the people he swiftly turned to me and replied what I don't see anything
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and he said oh what is that smell what I swear I'm not crazy and I opened
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the door there it was with its back turned to both of us a weirdly misshapen deer with
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legs that were not bent correctly at all we had plenty of experience seeing deer
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this was not a regular deer by any means it looked hellish its neck was a shorter bony
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skeletal-like neck it slowly snarled its lips and peered back over
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her shoulder at us wow a swarm of Lies surrounded its body
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I noticed that it's hot and who's were loose and so there were some of its teeth hanging out of the sockets while
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it it reached to lick the sides of its mouth with its drooling tongue
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deer don't have sharp teeth babe get in and shut the door my boyfriend uttered I being an idiot and
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not noticing said it's a deer it looks sick should we try to help it my boyfriend grabbed me by the back of my
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top and pulled me inside as fast as we shut the door tightly
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I was surprised that he didn't rip the spaghetti straps right off my body I'm
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glad that you didn't waste any time doing so but what happens next I can't explain
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or slammed against the entire side of the apartment building it sounded like a truck ran into the
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side of our building because the noise was so loud luckily the structure held just fine but
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I'm so thankful for that and we could have been goners we trembled together laying there on the
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bottom of the staircase looking into each other's eyes terrified you know what the hell that was you whispered
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yes I said slowly unsure what I just had what had just happened we both looked we both looked it
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upstairs and grabbed our hunting knives for protection for the rest of that evening let's just say I double checked the
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locks that night I guess we had surveillance footage of it but since the apartment has no
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plug-ins in the bottom of the staircase it shall remain unseen to the outside world
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shall be a memory that'll hold with me for the rest of my life so I don't I don't know if the deer hit the side of
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the building and made that racket or not you know they really don't go into detail but she seemed to know what it
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was so I I don't know that's just so weird but anyway if you've got questions just
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go to it uh when eyes thank you for the
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contribution and Nancy has been a member for 23 months
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thank you all
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okay let's see here Nancy Malcolm have any not deer had an autopsy done
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could it be like a deer mad cow disease well you know some people think that's what it is it's some type of wasting
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disease some people call it Zombie Syndrome I don't know what that is um I don't know of any um I don't know
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any necropacies none of these these animals uh but um yeah I'd like to know
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more or less uh Marla Snyder many reports are not there being aggressive
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um maybe a few
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offhand I can't remember of any I I think there have been some Bluff
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charges but I don't think I mean there's been no physical contact when I remember
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I had I have had other sightings and maybe I'll go through some more of them and present them at a later date but no
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I don't I don't remember any what are the species of not deer please for the most part they're uh they're
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whitetail deer now at West I think we had a couple mule deer uh maybe a black deal or two but most
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most of the sightings which well all the sightings here in apple in the Appalachians in here in eastern part of
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the United States have been Whitetail unless Thomas Carroll has any
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information as another species of deer around you I don't think it's true though I mean I used to hunt here myself
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so I've never heard of anything else but who knows what these things are either
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George penguin are there any reports of not deer from the Carolinas I'm sure there are I had to dig it up
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um especially in Western North Carolina in in the uh because I
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have family in Western North Carolina up the Mounds of the Appalachia or Great Smokies and
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um I've heard people talk about strange deer
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activity as well so I'll dig through it and see what I can come up with
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uh George penglet they exist what could be their origin Supernatural extraterrestrial
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I don't know you know it's just like anything else I mean we even get reports of these things shape-shifting
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are they are a data disease deer you know I'm thinking offhand that may be it
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or some type of mutation be honestly you know and you heard the reports
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there's just really no explanation for a lot of this stuff
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Marla or not dear evil verber yeah verbal yeah they scream
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uh I don't know if I've ever heard of one talking but I I know they scream a lot
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um a lot of times they'd grunt but you know you know if you're familiar with
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whitetail deer or when they're in a rut you get a male deer will Grunt and stick his nose on their ground and follow a
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female I mean when they're in rut they do all kinds of crazy things but a lot of these were during the summer and
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other times when they're not even in the ruts so um I can't explain that
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Robo 1776 lawn are the deer creatures considered to decrypted as any reports
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in Washington state we've had reports from all over the country now I mean most of the Earl reports were out in um
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but just in the Appalachians but I've had them out on the west coast as well
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um maybe not as dramatic as the ones here in the East but there have been reports
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Kansas watch or windigo and not do the same thing
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you know this this is kind of a misunderstanding
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about wendigo Wendy goes you know you hear the the thing about
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they have a deer they have a deer shape or deer head to have antlers for the most part one to go are humans
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um there a human with some type of diseased mind a lot of times they have
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cannibal tendencies um Chad Lewis wrote a great book about
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wendigo's you ought to look at it and read it it's probably the best the best description of when it goes in case File
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that I've ever read uh so if you look into um
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you go into Amazon and check out Chad Lewis's books the wendigo book is excellent
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and if you look back into my archive I did interview Chad about that
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so um there's a lot of information about the Wendigo mortal klown have any deer been cited
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during UFO abductions not that I can think of
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um no I I can't offhand think of any
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good question though sir Wolfe do you ever communicate do they ever communicate mind speak
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no I don't know if I've even gotten that I mean uh
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I I think the visceral reaction to people
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is just uh I don't know I just don't really ever remember anybody talking about some
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type of mind-speak scenario not like it would with a Bigfoot or a dog man or an upright canine
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1776 thanked for the super sticker appreciate it
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and thank you immortal clown for your donation very much appreciated
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Nancy Malcolm or any not dear sighted near military bases or Labs you know it
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could be uh specifically I can't really say um
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as far as those those areas that I do know of or suspect of being military
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Labs or bases I I just don't really see a correlation but there could be
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that's something I had to look into what a clown what about any other scary
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ungulates like moose never heard of a moose acting like a
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knot there
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Nancy Malcolm thanks for the super sticker very much appreciated again thanks for robo 1776.
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