Tonight on Phantoms & Monsters Radio, we explore the ancient ghoul tradition of the Middle East and compare it to a disturbing series of modern witness reports involving pale humanoids, cemetery crawlers, battlefield scavengers, mountain screams, and deceptive entities that seem to imitate human behavior. From Iraqi Kurdistan and Kuwait to Illinois, Montana, and Gettysburg, these accounts reveal a striking continuity between Islamic folklore and contemporary high strangeness.
In this presentation, I examine how classic ghoul traits, graveyard association, corpse predation, mimicry, liminal settings, caves, ruins, and psychological aftermath, continue to surface in modern encounters. Whether these reports reflect folklore carried forward, misunderstood cryptids, ultraterrestrial manifestations, or something else entirely, the similarities are too strong to ignore.
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Heat up
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here.
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Hey folks, welcome to Phantoms of
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Monsters Radio. Now, tonight we step
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into one of the Middle East oldest and
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most disturbing supernatural traditions,
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the ghoul. Now, in Arabic and Islamic
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folklore, the ghoul was never merely a
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monster in the wilderness. It was a
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thing of graves, ruins, lonely roads,
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desolate mountains, and decepted
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thresholds. a predatory presence
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that could assume a human semblance,
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mimic the familiar, and reveal its true
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nature only after the victim had already
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crossed too far into danger.
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Now, what makes the gold tradition so
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enduring is that its core patterns still
2:55
surface in modern testimony.
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We still hear reports of pale human
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noise near cemeteries and abandoned
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places of inhuman screams in remote
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terrain of creatures associated with the
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dead
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of entities that seem to lure circle
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watch or imitate.
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Now, whether these accounts represent
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folklore carried forward, misidentified
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biological realities, interdimensional
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manifestations, or something even
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stranger,
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the pattern remains remarkably
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consistent.
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The old stories have not disappeared.
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They may simply be wearing new faces.
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Now, our first account takes us into
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Iraqi Kurdistan near the Iranian border
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where the old word itself was spoken
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aloud. Local villagers and Kurdish
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forces did not describe an unknown
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animal or a fugitive soldier. They used
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a far older term, one that carried
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centuries of fear behind it, ghoul.
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Now, what makes this report especially
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compelling is its setting in tone. The
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mountains, the hunted locals, the night
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screams from the past, and the complete
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lack of physical trace all fit the older
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pattern of a predatory presence
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that is sensed more often than is
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clearly seen.
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Now, this first narrative was shared by
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a friend who owns a security company.
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The witness is one of his employees who
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began working for him after several
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years of service in Iraq and
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Afghanistan. Now, he stated that he
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worked for the US Army Criminal
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Investigations Division before and
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during those conflicts.
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He left the service for unspecified
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reasons. Although this account is
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secondhand, I believe in the witness's
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sincerity, though he wishes to rem
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remain an anonymous. though the report
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was written by the witness.
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Now he states, "I served as an
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investigator with C from 2004 to 2009
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working in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Most of my assignments involved
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investigating schemes including bribery,
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money laundering, and theft committed by
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enlisted personnel.
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Now in 2005 I was informed that I would
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be embedded with an army infantry unit
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in a mountainous region of the uh
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Sulamaya
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government which is located in the Iraqi
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Kurdistan northeast Iraq.
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Now upon reaching my assigned location
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we were briefed on unusual activity
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reported in a specific area just a few
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miles from the Iranian border.
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Now, our investigation began with
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reports of from local villagers of
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Kurdish military, the Peshmerga,
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who uh stated that people were being
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hunted in the mountains by an unknown
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creature.
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One man told me that the locals referred
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to it as a ghoul.
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Although he had never seen it, he
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described as a tall man-like creature
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with long arms and legs that fed on
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human flesh.
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Now, after gathering this information, I
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reported my findings to my superiors
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upon returning to the unit's
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headquarters.
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Now, a few days later, I was ordered to
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return to the area of the strange act
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strange activity to investigate further,
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accompanied by an infantry squad leader.
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The prevailing theory was that it could
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be a soldier who had gone awall,
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possibly because becoming unhinged and
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causing issues.
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Armed conflict can bring out the worst
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in people. And if this were the case,
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our job would be formidable.
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So after several days of surveillance
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and searches, we had no clue about what
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we were dealing with. Uh if this was
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indeed a soldier or a civilian man, we
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would have seen him or found some
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evidence.
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I was beginning to think that this was a
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wild goose chase, but the villagers were
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adamant that something was hunting them.
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So, one evening as the squad leader and
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I were reviewing a report, we were
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startled by a horrific scream coming
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from the direction of a mountain pass
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that we had searched just a few hours
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earlier.
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A few locals who were outside quickly
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hurried home, clearly frightened,
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as it was evident that that they had
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heard this scream before.
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Now, within an hour, the squad and I
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cautiously entered the pass. Now,
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although it was night, the moon was
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bright, allowing us to see clearly.
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We searched the entire area for several
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hours with night vision and high
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intensity lights, but found nothing, not
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a footprint or any evidence of a
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creature matching the description we had
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been given.
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Now, I have always wondered what we
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heard that night. I have asked several
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knowledgeable individuals for their
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opinion but received little
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satisfaction.
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Now, there were many strange occurrences
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in Iraq that were never publicly
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disclosed. I have heard about some, but
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I am certain that many were simply filed
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away. Now, this is an interesting story
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because there have been humanoid claims
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by Persians for almost 900 years. Now,
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one Persian tale involving Amin and the
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ghoul references the valley of angel of
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death and other folklore. I hope that
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some of the strange phenomena
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experienced in Iraq and Afghanistan are
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revealed at some point, but we, you
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know, we'll just have to wait and see.
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[clears throat]
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Now, from the mountains of Iraq, we move
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to the American West where the name
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changes, but the pattern remains the
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same. Here again we find the same
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elements. An isolation, a distorted
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scream, a pale humanoid form in the
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unsettling impression that the witnesses
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or witness was not merely observing the
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thing but being observed in return.
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Now this case is important because it
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shows how the ghoul pattern may survive
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outside the original cultural
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vocabulary.
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Now no one in Montana called it this
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being a ghoul. Yet the emotional texture
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and physical description echo the same
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archetype of the pale watcher in the
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wild.
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Now a Montana resident begins to hear
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terrifying screams coming from the
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mountain surrounding their home.
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Eventually they observe a strange pale
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humanoid figure with large black eyes.
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So, the witness tells me I lived in
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Montana on some land my dad owns. And I
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was hiking up a mountain, the Big Horn
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Mountain Range, like I did most days.
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While hiking, I heard an unusual
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screaming noise coming from the other
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side of the mountain, deeper into the
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woods and away from my house.
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It didn't sound like a mountain lion. It
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was too deep and prolonged, lasting
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about 10 seconds. I was pretty sure it
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wasn't a bear, either. It sounded like a
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human voice but distorted like something
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you might hear in a horror movie.
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Now when I reached the top of the
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mountain, I pulled out my binoculars to
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look into the general direction of the
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screen. There I saw a bizarre humanoid
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figure. It was pale as paper, had no
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hair clothes or any visible genitals,
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and its arms were longer than its body.
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Its huge black eyes dominated its face.
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It was walking, but as soon as I spotted
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it, it stopped
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and stared right at me. Now, I watched
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it carefully for at least 2 minutes,
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thinking it's staring straight in my
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soul.
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Eventually, I had to look away because
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my eyes began to water from not
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blinking.
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Now, when I looked back after wiping my
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eyes, the creature was gone.
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I couldn't see it anywhere, which made
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me question whether I just hallucinate
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the whole thing. Regardless of whether
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it was real or not, I decided to leave
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the area and ran back home.
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Now, the scariest part is that 5 minutes
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after walking in the door, I heard the
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scream again. It was much closer and it
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made my ear ring. Ears ring.
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Now that I think about it, I remember my
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dad calling me whenever he needed help
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on my hikes.
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I'm pretty sure the screams were coming
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from the area where I first encountered
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that creature. My dad heard it, too, so
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it wasn't just an hallucination, and my
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neighbor even mentioned the screams a
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week after the incident.
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Now, I've researched it as best I could,
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but I haven't found anything that
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matches its exact description.
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Now, I've never seen it again since that
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day, and neither has my dad. It's one of
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the many reasons I decided to move in
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with my mom in Arizona.
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Now, not every ghoul is supernatural.
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Sometimes the most disturbing figure in
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the record is entirely human.
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Gettysburg gives us a documented example
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of that darker truth. scavenger moving
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among the dead after one of America's
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bloodiest battles.
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Now, this account matters because it
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anchors the ghoul concept in both
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history and folklore. The grave
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violator, corpse thief, and battlefield
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scavenger may not be a spectral being,
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but he still embodies the same moral
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horror that gave rise to the ghoul
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legends in the first place. [snorts]
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Now, in the days following the three-day
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clash between Union and Confederate
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forces, Gettsburg was transformed into a
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vast open air morg. Over 50,000 men were
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killed, wounded, or missing. Bodies lay
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unburied across fields, hillsides, and
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farmsteads. The stench of death lingered
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for weeks.
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Amid this devastation, local citizens
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and returning soldiers began reporting
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nocturnal activity on the battlefield.
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One man was said to move among the
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corpses under the cover of darkness. He
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stole boots from the fallen. He stripped
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clothing and blankets. He searched
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pockets for money, personal effects, and
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anything of value.
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Such men were known at the time as
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battlefield cultures. In some accounts,
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the term godfor appears, a regional
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slang describing someone morally
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bankrupt and predatory in the face of
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tragedy.
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Now, this individual was eventually
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apprehended. Contemporary accounts
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suggest he was beaten or roughly handled
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upon capture, and some historians have
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sus speculated that the damage visible
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to his nose in a surviving photograph
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may reflect that confrontation.
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Now post battle scavenging was not
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uncommon in 19th century warfare. Armies
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did not have rapid burial systems in
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place and civilians often faced extreme
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part poverty. The pattern is practical
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rather than supernatural.
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The ghoul represents opportun
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opportunistic predation in the wake of a
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catastrophe.
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Now, public reaction appears to have
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been a mixture of outrage and
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fascination. Outrage at the desecration
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of the dead and fascination with the
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physical embodiment of moral decay amid
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national trauma.
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Now, similar reports of resurrectionist
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and battlefield scavengers appeared
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after the battles of Antidum, Shiloh,
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and Fredericksburg.
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Graverrobing and corpse stripping were
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grim realities in Civil War America.
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Gettysburg scale magnified the
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phenomena.
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Now, the Gettysburg Ghoul stands as a
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stark reminder that the most disturbing
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monsters in the historical record are
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often human.
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Now, it is important to distinguish this
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feature from later supernatural lengths
15:30
associated with Gettysburg, including
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spectral soldiers, phantom gunfire, and
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the unrelated Gladfelder ghoul folklore
15:39
from Gettysburg College.
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A battlefield vulture was flesh and
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blood.
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Now, the Gettysburg Ghoul was not a tale
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of apparitions or shadow figures. It's a
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documented case of human opportunism.
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at its most unsettling. In the broader
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study of 14 phenomena and battlefield
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lore, separating myth from verifi ver
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verifiable history is essential.
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This figure preserved in a rare 19th
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century photograph anchors Gettysburg's
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supernatural reputation to the darker,
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more tangible reality.
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Understanding these human elements
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allows investigators to approach
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reported hauntings and legends with
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clear historical context
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and discipline analysis.
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[snorts]
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Now we move from history back into
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direct witness testimony. In Rockford,
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Illinois, a teenager standing behind a
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veterinary clinic catches sight of a
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pale emaciated bipedal thing rushing
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through the tall grass toward a
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discarded piece of food.
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Now, what makes this encounter so
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unnerving is its almost scavenger-like
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behavior. The witness did not see a
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predator charging a person, but
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something opportunistic, quick,
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hairless, strangely human in structure
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and deeply wrong in its movements, as
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though a graveyard feeder had strayed
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into a modern landscape.
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Now, this occurred about five years ago
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when I was 15, according to the witness.
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My mother is a veterinarian, and we have
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a clinic on the edge of Rockford,
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Illinois. It's a large town, roughly
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150,000 people. But when I say the edge
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of town, I mean cornfields of over 30
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miles to the west and about 5 miles to
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the north, but some intermittent
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forestry in that area.
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I went with my mother to check on a dog
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that had spent the night recovering from
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extensive treatment. There was also a
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small pug weighing about n 9 to 15 lbs
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staying overnight. So I offered to take
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the dog outside to do his business,
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hoping to save my mom one more chore.
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Now the back of the clinic faces a
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grasscovered pond. It dried up from time
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to time, but the grass was about 3 to 4t
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tall. I don't remember if it was late
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winter, early spring, or even early
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fall, but since there was no snow and
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the grass was tall, I would guess it was
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early fall.
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Now, the front of the clinic is next to
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a road in other commercial buildings,
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but as I mentioned, the back is quite
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undeveloped.
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There were some leftover cookies in the
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clinic, so being a kid, I grabbed one
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and munched on it while I waited for the
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pug to finish.
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I'm not super fond of sweets, so I only
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got halfway through the cookie before
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deciding I had had enough. And the night
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had a vaguely eerie feeling. And while
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there were flood lights on the back of
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the clinic, the lighting wasn't great. I
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didn't see anything unusual, so I
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brushed off the creepy feeling that was
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just
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another common Midwestern night.
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If you're from the Midwest, I'm sure you
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understand it was quieter than usual.
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Typically, the pond is filled with the
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sounds of frogs and insects, but given
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that it wasn't summer or spring, I
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dismissed the lack of noise.
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I lost interest in my cookie and decided
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to throw it into the grass for small
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critters to enjoy. I tossed the half
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cookie about 15 yards away. I don't have
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a great arm, and it wasn't a for a
19:45
throw. It landed in a thickly tall grass
19:48
towards the east. [snorts] Now, as soon
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as the cookie landed, I heard and saw
19:52
something the size of a deer or a person
19:54
dart off towards it.
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Now, I'm well verssed in local wildlife,
19:59
and I know how deer move. However, this
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creature moved like a person, except it
20:04
was pale as paper and hairless.
20:08
I can see its spine pushing through its
20:10
skin, and it didn't have the arch that
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you'd expect from a quadripedal animal.
20:17
Instead, it had a [clears throat]
20:18
hunched posture like an ape or human
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running awkwardly on two legs.
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All I saw was about 2 feet of its shiny
20:27
semi-reflective back stopping where its
20:30
neck or shoulders would have started.
20:33
It had no large shoulder blades like a
20:35
deer or dog, but rather a narrow chest
20:38
like a sigh hound or a deer. Yet, it was
20:41
clearly bipedal with ball and socket
20:44
shoulders.
20:45
Additionally, deer skittish and wouldn't
20:47
run towards something thrown in the
20:49
grass.
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Now, the instant the cookie landed, both
20:55
the pug and I froze. I had never been
20:57
paralyzed by fear before, but in that
21:00
moment, I was.
21:03
We just watched as this creature ran
21:05
from one end of the grass to the cookie,
21:06
where it disappeared.
21:09
I heard it moving away after it got or
21:11
investigated the cookie. Once I couldn't
21:14
hear it anymore, I immediately decided
21:16
to go back inside. The pug, however, was
21:19
fixed and needed only a small tug on the
21:21
leash to follow me, which was unusual.
21:25
If you know small dogs, they can be
21:27
obnoxious and overly brave, often
21:30
barking at everything they don't
21:31
recognize. But this little dog did make
21:34
a sound. And as soon as it realized I
21:37
wanted to leave, it was fully on board.
21:41
Now, I'm not one for the paranormal
21:42
religion, but this was something I could
21:45
never explain. I know deer, and this
21:48
thing was not an albino hairless deer.
21:50
It was something else entirely with its
21:52
emaciated body and pale white skin. I
21:56
can still remember that night in perfect
21:58
def detail and it still raises the hair
22:00
on my neck.
22:03
Now, we have received several reports of
22:06
humanoid crawler sightings and other
22:07
humanlike beings in the Chicago region
22:10
since we began investigating the Chicago
22:12
Moth Man phenomena.
22:14
And the Rockford area has had winged
22:17
humanoid sightings. And in fact, it was
22:19
one of the
22:21
u busiest regions outside of Chicago
22:24
itself.
22:28
Now, I'm going to tell you this next
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one's a little strange. Um, I may have
22:33
mentioned this years ago,
22:37
but I think in the context it needs to
22:40
be u talked about again. [clears throat]
22:44
Now this next case brings us directly
22:46
back into the Middle Eastern tradition.
22:49
This is not a confirmed modern case file
22:51
but a a living Kuwaiti legend. One built
22:54
around deception liinal
22:58
space and the gradual revelation that a
23:01
guest at a wedding were not human at
23:04
all.
23:05
Of all the accounts in tonight's
23:07
presentation, this one may mirror the
23:10
older ghoul and jin traditions most
23:13
closely.
23:14
False hospitality,
23:16
animal extremities, a vanished setting,
23:20
and a carefully staged lure all point to
23:23
the ancient belief that some beings can
23:25
conventionally
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imitate human life to draw unsuspecting
23:30
across a dangerous threshold.
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Now, for years in Kuwait, people have
23:38
whispered about a strange wedding
23:40
performance that turned into a night of
23:42
terror.
23:44
The story is usually set in the 1990s or
23:46
early 2000s and sometimes linked to a
23:49
famous singer, Nora. Though that claim
23:52
has never been firmly
23:55
verified.
23:56
What has kept the tale alive is not
23:58
merely the fear it inspires, but also
24:00
the way it echoes older Arab beliefs
24:03
about jin ghouls, shape-shifting beings,
24:06
and the dangerous unseen world that can
24:08
imitate human life for its own purposes.
24:12
Now, this account should be treated as a
24:14
folklore level narrative drawn from the
24:16
main circulating versions, not as a
24:18
confirmed case file.
24:21
Take it as you will.
24:24
Now, in the story, a respected female
24:26
wedding singer in Kuwait was contacted
24:29
to perform at an upscale residence on
24:32
the city's edge.
24:34
In some tellings, the request came
24:37
during Ramadan, which only deepened her
24:39
unease since the hour was late and the
24:43
insistence unusual.
24:45
She initially refused.
24:48
The caller pressed her. The fee offer
24:51
was far beyond what would normally be
24:53
paid, so high that it overcame her
24:55
instincts to stay away. either a driver
25:00
either a driver ride collector or she
25:02
traveled with accompanying position
25:04
musicians as that seemed to be a large
25:07
villa lit for celebration.
25:11
The house looked real enough. The lights
25:13
were warm. Music drifted through the
25:16
entrance. The tables were filled with
25:18
food. Guest in elegant dress moved
25:21
through the hall as if an attending
25:24
wealthy family wedding. Now, at first
25:27
glance glance, there was nothing
25:29
outwardly monstrous. Yet, the unease did
25:32
not lift.
25:34
Now, the women who greeted the musicians
25:36
were said to feel unnaturally hot to the
25:39
touch, as if heat radiated through their
25:41
skin.
25:43
Others seemed almost right, but not
25:46
fully. Their faces were composed and
25:50
human. Yet there was something in the
25:52
eyes, in the smile, in the way they
25:54
stood too still before suddenly moving
25:58
too quickly that disturbed the
26:00
performers.
26:01
The sense was not that these were people
26:04
behaving strangely. It was that
26:06
something nonhuman was imitating people
26:08
and not doing it perfectly.
26:12
Now, as the night went on, the
26:13
atmosphere grew more oppressive. The
26:16
celebration became less like a wedding
26:18
and more like a dis a display. The
26:21
dancing intensified. Movements became
26:23
harsher and faster and increasingly
26:25
unnatural, as though the guests were no
26:28
longer maintaining the restraint of
26:29
ordinary human imitation.
26:33
New musicians noticed details that
26:35
sharpened their fear. When garments
26:38
shifted and hems lifted during the
26:40
dancing, several witnesses claimed to
26:42
see legs that did not belong to any
26:45
human being. In some versions, the limbs
26:48
resembled those of a horse. In others,
26:51
they looked like sheeper goat legs
26:54
ending in hooflike feet.
26:57
Some tellings had coarse hair, thickened
26:59
skin, and hands that look more like
27:01
claws or animal appendages than human
27:04
fingers.
27:06
It was then the performers realized that
27:09
they were not among ordinary wedding
27:11
guests. Now in or older Arab traditions,
27:15
the ghoul does not appear always appear
27:18
as a monster from the onset.
27:20
It comes clothed in deception borrowing
27:23
beauty, status or familiarity only along
27:26
its true nature to emerge in fragments.
27:29
This is how this night began to feel.
27:32
The elegance of the celebration no
27:34
longer suggested wealth. It suggested
27:37
bait.
27:40
Some accounts say the bride and groom
27:42
then appeared seated upon a strange
27:44
ceremonial structure almost like a
27:46
throne with a gaping beastial mouth.
27:52
Others simply say the room fell into a
27:54
terrible silence before the final break.
27:58
The lights suddenly went out and in that
28:00
instance the singers and musicians fled.
28:06
Now from there the story divides into
28:08
two endings.
28:11
In one version the lead singer made it
28:13
to the waiting car. [snorts] Shaking
28:15
nearly unable to speak she told the
28:17
driver that the woman the women inside
28:19
had animal legs.
28:21
He turned towards her and answered with
28:23
a chilling calm, asking if she meant
28:26
legs like this. Then he revealed his own
28:29
nonhuman legs.
28:31
She hurdled herself from the moving
28:34
vehicle and was later found unconscious
28:35
in the street.
28:37
In another version, [clears throat]
28:39
the women ran out of the villa in panic
28:42
and were stopped by a passerby or taxi
28:44
driver who demanded to know why they had
28:46
come running from an abandoned property
28:48
in the middle of the night. When they
28:51
turned back to look, the grand mansion
28:53
was no longer a place of music, light,
28:55
and celebration.
28:57
It was derelct, empty, ruined, and in
29:00
some tellings, simply gone from sight
29:03
altogether,
29:05
as though the structure they had entered
29:07
had only been a glamour laid over a
29:10
desolate place.
29:13
By morning, [clears throat] nothing at
29:15
the site matched what the witnesses
29:17
believed they had seen hours earlier. In
29:20
some accounts, the authorities returned
29:22
with them and found no evidence of a
29:25
wedding venue.
29:27
In others, only abandoned buildings
29:29
remained.
29:31
After that, the story passes into rumor.
29:34
The singer withdrew from public life.
29:36
The musicians would not speak of what
29:39
happened. No final explanation was ever
29:41
given.
29:43
What gives the Kuwait story its lasting
29:46
power is how close it resembles older
29:48
Middle Eastern supernatural patterns.
29:52
The invitation comes at night. The
29:54
destination is liinal, set apart, and
29:57
reached through trust in a stranger.
30:00
Hospitality conceals a threat. Beauty
30:03
hides corruption. The beings appear
30:06
human but reveal animal extremities. the
30:09
very sort of imperfect disguise long
30:11
associated with ghouls and other
30:13
deceptive entities in Arab lore.
30:17
The place itself refuses stability,
30:19
appearing one way in darkness and
30:21
another in daylight.
30:23
The entire experience reads less like a
30:26
haunting and more like an orchestrated
30:28
lure.
30:31
Viewed through that lens, the legend is
30:33
not simply about jin in the broadest
30:35
sense. It becomes something more
30:37
specific and more disturbing. A modern
30:40
golf retelling of an older belief that
30:42
certain beings can create false human
30:44
scenes, draw travelers or guest into
30:47
them, and reveal their true nature only
30:50
when escape has become difficult.
30:54
Now in that sense, the quake wedding
30:56
legend stands very close to the ghoul
30:59
tradition where the danger is not only
31:01
the creature itself but its ability to
31:04
mimic the human world convincingly
31:06
enough to draw unsuspecting
31:08
across a threshold they do not
31:11
understand.
31:14
[clears throat]
31:17
Now the cemetery has always been one of
31:19
the ghouls nature domains. So, this next
31:22
account deserves close attention.
31:26
Two teenagers walking through a cemetery
31:28
in Rosville, Illinois, encounter a pale,
31:30
hairless humanoid moving on all fours
31:33
behind the headstones, then circling
31:35
them just out of sight.
31:38
This report adds another layer to the
31:40
particularly interesting the aftermath.
31:44
The nightmares, the bad luck, and the
31:46
lingering psychological pressure suggest
31:48
that in some cases the encounters may
31:51
not end when the witness leaves the
31:53
location,
31:55
which is very much in keeping with the
31:57
older tradition surrounding polluted
31:59
places and spiritually dangerous
32:02
contact.
32:04
So, the [clears throat] witness tells
32:05
me,
32:08
"Back when I was in high school,
32:11
my friend and I encountered something
32:13
I've started referring to as a crawler."
32:17
Now, this happened in Rosville, Illinois
32:19
at night in the cemetery. I believe it
32:22
was late summer, early fall, as I don't
32:24
recall it being too cold. It was around
32:27
201 10 and I'm pretty sure the moon was
32:30
full or nearly so because visibility was
32:32
quite good.
32:34
My friend and I used to walk a loop. We
32:37
would leave our house and go down a
32:39
block to a side road that led to a park.
32:42
From there, they would turn left and cut
32:44
across the park to the cemetery's side
32:46
entrance. The cemetery and park were
32:50
located on the southwest corner of town
32:52
beyond where just woods they were just
32:54
woods and cornfields.
32:57
If you walk straight through the
32:58
cemetery, it would take us to another
33:00
side road that led back to the main
33:01
street, returning us to her her house.
33:06
So, one night, we made it to the
33:09
cemetery and began walking along the
33:11
main drive that split the property in
33:13
half.
33:15
Suddenly, we heard a voice or noise that
33:18
made us both stop. My friend started
33:21
laughing nervously and asked if I had
33:24
heard it, too. And I told her I had seen
33:27
what made the noise.
33:29
To our left, I spotted something running
33:32
behind the headstone.
33:34
It was on all fours, but pure humanoid.
33:37
It had extremely pale skin, no hair, and
33:39
looked very thin. I remember it was so
33:42
pale that it almost reflected moonlight.
33:45
It moved rapidly, too fast for any human
33:48
I've ever seen on their hands and feet.
33:51
So, I I couldn't see many details. It
33:54
was in profile, so I never saw its
33:56
facial features. The way it ran was
33:59
animallike with its feet coming forward
34:01
almost between its hands or past them.
34:04
It resembled the gate of a big cat or
34:07
wild dog running.
34:09
Both of us were terrified. We just stood
34:12
there panicking and listening to it move
34:14
around just out of sight while we called
34:18
out called one of her friends to come
34:20
and get us. When her friend, a typical
34:23
high school boy, arrived, he wanted to
34:25
stay in the cemetery and goof off.
34:28
Strangely, having him there made it feel
34:31
less scary. But I remember the creature
34:33
continuing to circle us. It always
34:36
stayed out of sight, but we could hear
34:39
it moving. Occasionally, it would come
34:41
closer, then dart further away again.
34:45
Eventually, we left. I spent some time
34:48
researching it and even reached out to a
34:50
paranormal group in Champagne for
34:53
advice.
34:54
The person I spoke with never heard of
34:56
it, but wanted to document what we saw.
35:01
We met with him for an interview, but
35:02
the group never conducted an
35:04
investigation.
35:06
Now, fast forward a few years and I
35:08
found myself living in Aurora, Colorado.
35:10
In 2012, I met up with my closest
35:13
friends. We really clicked because we
35:16
both had an interest in the paranormal.
35:18
And when I eventually told him about
35:20
what I had seen, he was shocked. His jaw
35:22
dropped. He shared that he had seen
35:25
something similar.
35:27
He described exactly what he had seen,
35:30
but said he encountered under a porch
35:32
while living in Thornton. It was
35:34
crouched, hunched over something it was
35:36
holding, and he believed he startled it
35:39
while he was eating. While it was
35:41
eating. Now coming from a Navajo Apache
35:44
background, his initial guess was that
35:46
could have been a skinw walker or maybe
35:48
a windo. However, he later expressed
35:51
doubts about that explanation.
35:54
He was dating a girl at the time whose
35:56
mother claimed to be a medium. She
35:58
suggested it was something someone had
36:00
woken up and was now angry, but we both
36:04
doubted that explanation.
36:06
The stranger part came when we began
36:09
discussing our experiences. We both
36:12
started having very intense nightmares
36:14
about it. His were worse than mine and
36:18
lasted much longer.
36:22
Now, this period was also marked by 6
36:24
months of bad luck and anxiety for both
36:26
of us. Initially, I brushed it off as us
36:29
psyching ourselves out until I submitted
36:32
my story to a podcast.
36:34
After my story was read, another
36:36
listener sent in their own account
36:38
describing exactly what my friend and I
36:40
had seen. Their experiences were also
36:43
accompanied by nightmares and could
36:46
couldn't dismiss them because they spoke
36:47
about their nightmares in detail which
36:50
matched my friends nightmares exactly.
36:53
I have never revealed the actual content
36:56
of either of our nightmares.
36:59
Now, I've read numerous stories online
37:01
and sifted through extensive lure
37:03
encrypted list. Despite all the
37:06
research, I still feel like I haven't
37:08
found a concrete answer to what this
37:09
thing is. My best guess is that
37:12
nightmares aren't coincidental and that
37:14
they are interdimensional.
37:16
It seems capable of interacting with
37:19
physical things around it, but it never
37:21
heard but I've never heard of anyone
37:23
reporting a physical attack or even
37:25
being touched.
37:27
After years of hours of speculation,
37:29
I've concluded that there's no
37:31
definitive answer. It doesn't fit neatly
37:34
into any specific crypted category.
37:37
[clears throat] I suspect it might be
37:38
something that has been around for a
37:40
long time and has inspired other
37:42
cryptids of paranormal tales. However, I
37:46
don't believe it's a windo skinwalker
37:48
ghoul or anything like that.
37:54
So, we have another one from Illinois.
37:58
Excuse me a second.
38:02
[sighs]
38:02
Now, our next account is one of the
38:04
clearest examples of a witness finding
38:06
later finding a folkloruric label that
38:09
seems to fit what they saw. Near a
38:12
caveline cemetery outside Effingham,
38:15
Illinois, three friends encountered a
38:17
crouched, hairless, gray humanoid with
38:19
glowing yellow eyes and extremely long
38:22
arms.
38:24
What makes this report stand out is not
38:26
only the appearance of this being, but
38:29
the location. Caves, cemeteries, and
38:31
remote roads are all classic liinal
38:34
environments.
38:36
And when the witness later discovered
38:39
ghoul lord describing cave dwellers, the
38:41
corpse feeders are near burial grounds
38:45
and the parallels become impossible to
38:47
ignore.
38:49
So the witness tells me in 2011 or
38:52
excuse me [clears throat] 2010 two
38:54
friends and I were driving through the
38:56
countryside near Effingham Illinois
38:59
about 30 minutes from our home. It was a
39:02
typical weekend night
39:04
and we were headed to a cemetery, the
39:06
Casbar Cemetery, deep in the woods and
39:09
surrounded by caves which we had heard
39:12
was a great place to explore
39:14
respectively.
39:17
We stopped for sodas at a gas station in
39:19
Effingham before heading into the
39:21
country. It was around 1 or 2:00 a.m. It
39:24
was dark outside.
39:27
As we drove, I noticed something with
39:28
yellow glowing eyes off in the side of
39:30
the road. Just past the ditch,
39:33
illuminated by our headlights.
39:36
It was too short to be a deer, but too
39:38
big to be a possum or raccoon. And as we
39:41
got closer, I could see it more clearly,
39:43
a skinny, hairless, gray humanlike
39:45
figure.
39:47
That was definitely not human. It looked
39:49
bizarre. Crouched down. Its arms were
39:52
incredibly long and estimated that it
39:54
could have been 7 foot tall or taller if
39:56
it stood up.
39:58
A je a chill ran down my spine. My heart
40:01
raced and my hair stood on in. I
40:03
whispered to myself, "What the hell?" At
40:06
that moment, I heard my friend in the
40:08
back seed shout, "What the hell is
40:11
that?"
40:12
Complete shock and terror washed over me
40:14
and I couldn't make a sound. I was just
40:17
staring at it. By the time we were right
40:20
in front of it, we passed it and it
40:22
simply watched us as we drove by before
40:24
slinking back into the darkness.
40:27
We all started screaming, completely
40:29
freaking out. I was convinced it was a
40:31
demon for months, but still doubting
40:34
myself, wondering if my mind was playing
40:36
tricks on me. That night, we didn't even
40:39
make it to the Casba Cemetery. We went
40:41
straight home and couldn't sleep.
40:44
So now 6 months later, while at a
40:47
different friend's house, she received a
40:49
text from her cousin with a picture from
40:51
the trail camera.
40:53
I felt another chill run down my spine
40:55
as the hair in the back of my neck stood
40:57
tall again. I was seeing that creature
41:00
again.
41:01
I realized we weren't crazy. There was
41:04
something to this. Her cousin claimed
41:07
that he caught her on trail cam one town
41:09
over. Later, he admitted it wasn't his
41:12
camera and that it was just pranking us,
41:14
but I immediately recognized the image
41:16
and asked her to send it to me. I then
41:19
forwarded to my friend who had been with
41:22
me that night, and he quickly replied,
41:25
"That's that effing thing we saw."
41:28
Although I found out the picture was
41:30
fake, I still couldn't shake my doubts
41:32
and dis and continued research and
41:35
continued researching the image and
41:37
demons to find answers, but found
41:40
nothing.
41:41
Now, in 2014, while scrolling through my
41:44
Facebook news feed, the trail camera
41:46
picture popped up again. One girl I knew
41:49
posted on another friend's wall. It
41:52
immediately shared my story in the
41:54
comments. And as I scrolled through the
41:56
previous comments, I saw that another
41:58
girl had also mentioned seeing a similar
42:00
creature. She replied to my comment
42:03
telling me that she had encountered it
42:05
in the countryside of Effingham too back
42:07
in 2011.
42:10
A guy we went to school with also
42:12
commented mentioning that he and a
42:14
friend who who was into the occult. His
42:18
friend said these creatures are called
42:20
ghouls.
42:22
This sent me on a deep dive into
42:24
researching ghouls. What I found blew my
42:27
mind. The lore stated that ghouls are
42:29
cave dwellers. As I mentioned before,
42:31
the Casbot cemetery is surrounded by
42:33
caves.
42:35
They are said to feed on recently dead
42:37
and typically remains near cemeteries
42:41
uh and to to live there to be near a
42:43
food source. Ghouls are known to reveal
42:46
themselves to humans when fresh recently
42:49
deceased bodies are scarce. and may
42:51
attempt to get close to humans for
42:53
nourishment. Now, the images I found
42:56
were illustrations, but they looked
42:58
exactly like what I had seen that night.
43:01
Everything I read aligned perfectly with
43:03
my experience, leaving me unable to
43:06
explain it away.
43:13
Now uh
43:15
to understand why these modern accounts
43:18
resonate so strongly, we need to return
43:20
to the older literature. Now this final
43:22
segment takes us into the 19th century
43:25
commentary and an older bagghdad tale
43:27
that reveals how deeply the ghoul
43:29
tradition was tied to corpse feeding
43:32
cemeteries hidden identities and
43:35
nocturnal predation. Now, this account
43:38
is especially valuable because it shows
43:40
that the ghoul was not always imagined
43:42
as the beast of the wasteland. Sometimes
43:45
it entered the home, the marriage bed,
43:49
and the family itself appearing human
43:50
until its appetite exposed what it truly
43:54
was.
43:58
Now, The Witness states, "I've never
44:00
been overly drawn to modern horror
44:02
fiction for its own sake, but folklore,
44:05
historical belief, and the older record
44:07
of how people once understood the
44:09
supernatural have always held my
44:12
attention.
44:14
Some time ago, while reading the book of
44:16
werewolves, werewolf history and
44:18
folklore by Sabin Baron Gould, I came
44:22
across a passage that stood out to me,
44:24
not simply because of its grotesque
44:26
imagery, but because of how closely it
44:29
echoes the older ghoul traditions of the
44:31
Middle East. Now, the [snorts] book was
44:33
published in 1865,
44:36
more than three decades later be- before
44:38
more than three decades before Bram
44:41
Stoker's Dracula would help shape the
44:43
modern vampire myth in the popular
44:46
imagination.
44:48
Yet even then, Baron Gould was pointing
44:50
to something older and darker. A body of
44:53
belief centered not on the elegant
44:56
aristocratic vampire, but on van on
44:59
grave violators, corpse feeders, and
45:01
nocturnal beings that moved among tombs
45:04
under the cover of darkness.
45:07
And this discussion refers to
45:09
long-standing eastern idea that certain
45:12
individuals are entities wonder
45:13
cemeteries by moonlight clawing in the
45:16
graves with unnatural determination
45:19
driven by the craving for the flesh of
45:20
the dead. Now what struck me was how
45:24
directly this imagery aligns with the
45:27
traditional Arabic ghoul.
45:30
In Middle Eastern lore, the ghoul is not
45:32
merely a monster in abstract. is a being
45:34
of desolation, burial grounds, lonely
45:37
places, and the boundaries between human
45:39
and the unclean. Is often associated
45:42
with deception, with feeding on corpses,
45:44
with the violent hunger that places it
45:48
outside the ordinary order of nature.
45:51
Bearing Ghoul's description, whether
45:52
filtered through the 19th century
45:54
scholarship or Victorian assumptions,
45:58
still preserves that older core.
46:01
These are not just witches, body
46:03
snatchers, or vague horrors. They
46:05
resemble the graveyard predators of Arab
46:08
legend. Things that dig deep into the
46:11
resting places of the dead and profane
46:14
that should remain untouched until dawn
46:16
drives them away.
46:18
He goes on to suggest that such stories
46:20
may not have arisen entirely from
46:22
fantasy. And in some cases, he believed
46:25
the tales may have grown out of the real
46:26
acts of grave robbery, corpse
46:29
mutilation, and occult practices
46:32
involving human remains. Now, that
46:34
possibility is worth noting because it
46:36
reflects a pattern seen throughout
46:38
folklore.
46:39
Supernatural traditions often form
46:42
around actual transgressions.
46:45
The grave robber becomes more than a
46:47
criminal. The corpse violator becomes
46:49
something inhuman. Over time, the act
46:52
and the legend fuse and what remains is
46:55
the image of a ghoul half human half
46:58
something far worse lurking among the
47:01
tombs feeding on the dead. Now bearing
47:04
gold even notes that in parts of Europe,
47:06
especially Britany, churchyards were
47:09
once illuminated at night to discourage
47:11
those thoughts those thought to the
47:13
desecrate graves under darkness.
47:17
That detail is fascinating because it
47:19
shows that the fear of the graveyard
47:20
predator was not confined in the iron
47:22
world, though it took one of its most
47:25
vivid forms there. The imagery may have
47:29
traveled, evolved, or merged with local
47:31
traditions. But the underlying terror
47:34
remains the same. Something comes in the
47:37
night for the dead and perhaps for the
47:39
living as well.
47:41
Now after this passage, Baron Gould
47:44
recounts an older tale set in Baghdad.
47:47
One that is especially revealing because
47:49
it bridges two related but distinct
47:51
traditions. The corpse eating ghoul and
47:53
the bloodrinking revenant.
47:56
Now in the story, an elderly merchant of
47:59
Baghdad had become wealthy through trade
48:01
and had only one son, Abul Hassan, whom
48:05
he loved deeply.
48:07
Wishing to secure his future, he
48:09
arranged a marriage for him with the
48:10
daughter of another prosperous merchant,
48:12
a woman of means but little beauty,
48:16
the son resisted and instead fell in
48:19
love with Nadia,
48:21
the daughter of a wise man.
48:22
[clears throat]
48:23
After much pressure, the father finally
48:25
yielded in the marriage to Nadia went
48:27
forward with all the pompan ceremony
48:30
that one would expect.
48:32
At first all seemed well, but soon Abdul
48:36
Hassan noticed something deeply
48:38
unsettling.
48:40
Each night, once he bleeded him asleep,
48:42
his bride quickly rose from the bed and
48:44
disappeared, returning only shortly
48:46
after dawn.
48:48
Suspicion overcame him, and one night he
48:50
pretended to sleep and followed her. She
48:53
made her way to the cemetery.
48:56
There, under the scattered moonlight, we
48:58
watched he watched her enter a tomb.
49:01
When he crept after her, he discovered a
49:03
scene of absolute horror. Gathered
49:06
within were ghouls feasting on the flesh
49:09
of the dead, feeding on corpses torn
49:11
from their graves. His own wife was
49:14
among them, taking part in the grotesque
49:16
banquet with enthusiasm.
49:18
The woman he had married by day,
49:20
belonged by night to the company of
49:22
graveyard predators.
49:25
This is where the story becomes
49:26
especially important. In traditional
49:29
ghoul lore, the creature is not
49:32
monstrous at first glance, a glance, and
49:35
it may wear human form. It may move
49:38
among people unnoticed, and it may even
49:40
enter the home, bed, or family itself.
49:43
Its true na true nature is revealed only
49:46
when it crosses into its proper domain,
49:49
the tomb, the wasteland, the place of
49:52
death.
49:55
Nadia fits that pattern perfectly.
49:57
should not merely a vampire in the later
49:59
European sense. She is something older,
50:02
more primal,
50:04
a hidden devour of the dead whose human
50:07
appearance conceals an unclean appetite.
50:10
Now Abu Hassan managed to escape without
50:13
being seen and returned to his bed,
50:15
keeping silent until the following
50:17
evening.
50:18
Now when supper was laid and his wife
50:20
[clears throat] again refused to eat, he
50:22
confronted her in anger, declaring that
50:24
she preferred to eat, keep her appetite
50:26
for the ghoul's feast.
50:29
At that she turned pale, trembled, and
50:32
withdrew without a word. That silence is
50:35
telling. There is no denial, no outrage,
50:38
no attempt to explain herself. The
50:41
accusation was named had named her true
50:44
nature.
50:47
At midnight, she returned no longer as a
50:49
hidden cemetery feeder, but the out an
50:51
outright predator. She threw herself
50:54
upon her husband with nails and teeth,
50:56
tore his throat, and open a vein to
50:58
drink his blood. In this moment, the
51:01
tale shifts. The ghoul of the grave
51:04
becomes something closer to a revenant,
51:06
crossing fully into the bloodrinking
51:08
rule that later audiences recognize the
51:11
vampire. Abassan fought back and killed
51:15
her and she was buried the following
51:17
day.
51:19
But the matter did not end there. Three
51:22
nights later, she returned from the
51:24
grave and attacked him again. Only then
51:27
did Abdul Hassan take the final step. He
51:30
opened her tomb, burned her remains to
51:32
ashes, and cast them into the tigress,
51:35
destroying the body so that it could not
51:37
rise again.
51:39
Now taken as a whole, the account is
51:41
fascinating because it preserves the
51:43
overlap between different supernatural
51:45
archetypes before modern horror and
51:48
fiction harden them into separate
51:50
categories.
51:51
Here the female figure is at once wife,
51:55
ghoul, forts, corpse eater, revenant,
51:57
and bloodrinker.
52:00
She belongs in the cemetery, the knight,
52:02
the violated grave. She returns after
52:05
the burial. She attacks the living. She
52:08
must be destroyed by fire and dispersal.
52:10
And in that sense, the story sits at the
52:13
crossroads of Arab ghoul belief in the
52:15
later vampire tradition.
52:18
What interests me most is not whether
52:21
the tale is literally true. It's what
52:23
the story reveals about how such beings
52:26
are imagined. Now, in Middle Eastern
52:28
tradition, the ghoul is not always just
52:30
a wandering desert monster.
52:33
It could be intimate, hidden, and
52:36
domestic. It could enter human life
52:38
through marriage, affection, and trust.
52:41
It could pass as one of us until its
52:44
appetite exposes it.
52:46
That is far more disturbing idea than a
52:49
simple graveyard beast.
52:52
So when Baron Gould included the story
52:54
in 1965, he was doing more than
52:57
recounting an exotic curiosity.
53:00
He was preserving an older supernatural
53:02
pattern, one rooted in the fear that
53:04
death does not remain sealed, that some
53:06
beings are drawn to the corpse and that
53:09
the boundary between human and the
53:11
inhuman may be thinner than what we'd
53:14
like to believe.
53:16
Long before the polished vampire entered
53:18
popular fiction, there was the ghoul at
53:21
the tomb, the hidden feeder among the
53:23
dead, and a beautiful wife who slipped
53:26
from the marriage bed into the graveyard
53:29
night.
53:33
So when we look across these reports, a
53:35
pattern emerges that is older than any
53:37
one culture and more persistent than
53:39
many people realize.
53:42
The ghoul is not just the folkloruric
53:44
monster of the Arab world. Is a larger
53:46
predatory template, one that appears
53:48
wherever the living and the dead and the
53:50
human and the inhuman, the familiar and
53:53
the forbidden begin to overlap.
53:56
It appears in mountains and cemeteries,
53:58
on rural roads and battlefields, in
54:00
abandoned places and deceptive
54:02
hospitality, and in the pale humanoor
54:05
form that witnesses still describe
54:07
today.
54:09
Now whether these beings are literal
54:11
entities, symbolic projections,
54:13
mislabeled phenomena or manifestations
54:16
of an ultraterrestrial reality, the
54:19
continuity is striking. The old
54:21
traditions warm of corpse feeders, mimic
54:23
beings, and predators that move just
54:26
beyond the edge of the accepted reality.
54:29
Modern witnesses, often with no
54:31
knowledge of these traditions at all,
54:33
continue to describe creatures and
54:35
situations that fall into the same
54:37
pattern.
54:39
That does not prove every account, but
54:42
it does suggest that the ghoul as an
54:44
idea and perhaps as a phenomena has
54:47
never been entirely confined to the
54:50
past.
54:52
Now, if you have experienced anything
54:53
like this or had an unexplained
54:55
encounter or sighting, you can send your
54:56
report to Phantoms and Monsters. And as
54:59
always, thank you for listening.
55:03
So, folks, if you got questions, just
55:05
put them up there and I'll try to answer
55:07
them for you.
55:15
>> [sighs and gasps]
55:16
[snorts]
55:23
>> Dynamic. Could ghouls or skinw walkers
55:25
be in the same category? Uh, well,
55:28
again, a skinwalker is a a living human
55:31
that has transformed. Is it
55:35
I mean do do the skin walkers eat flesh?
55:38
I mean you know dead flesh.
55:41
I I I think in some instances it has
55:44
been proven that when these witches or
55:49
people who turn into skin walkers or
55:52
maybe even windos do fall into that
55:55
category at some point.
55:57
It's hard to tell. Uh it kind of does
56:00
run into each other. I mean, they do
56:01
kind of overlap each other. So, um,
56:04
yeah, I guess it's entirely possible.
56:10
[snorts]
56:10
Paranormalism net, have you had any
56:13
reports of crypted shape-shifting?
56:15
Occasionally, something will come in
56:17
that seems to suggest there's a
56:18
shape-shifting ability.
56:21
Uh even with the winged humanoids, there
56:23
there seems to be some type of
56:25
shape-shifting involved there,
56:26
especially when they're moving out and
56:28
manifest from even a portal or a liinal
56:31
space.
56:33
People have described that. Now,
56:36
occasionally we will get a report
56:39
where people will describe something
56:42
either changing shapes or changing
56:44
manner and such,
56:47
but it's it's rare. It's It doesn't
56:50
happen a lot.
56:55
Jose Sanchez, might go ghoul be another
56:58
name for a little crawler. I guess it
57:00
could be. You know, we don't know much
57:02
about these so-called crawlers. Uh, is
57:05
there actually a tie in? It could be.
57:08
That's why I threw a couple of the more
57:09
creepy ones, uh, crawler humanoids into
57:13
this into this presentation because it
57:16
does seem to suggest there may be a
57:18
connection. though I'm not saying there
57:19
is uh but um
57:24
give you a little bit to think about
57:25
anyway.
57:31
Lala, what was the last time you either
57:34
experienced one or some type of proof of
57:36
someone you know that the skinw walker
57:39
shape shifter experienced and what was
57:41
it? Well, of course, we've had a lot of
57:43
accounts come out of the the Navajo
57:46
reservation area and people of First
57:48
Nations. Um, they swear by these
57:53
accounts. Now, again, many of the
57:56
accounts that come out are coming from
57:58
the younger folks because the older
58:00
folks will not talk about it. Now, if
58:04
they need a if there's a lesson to be
58:07
learned and one of the older people
58:09
needs to talk about a skinw walker to
58:12
prove a point in a story or something
58:14
that they did that they shouldn't have
58:16
done,
58:17
uh, yeah, then
58:20
something will come out, but it it's
58:22
very rare. Um,
58:24
and I have always wondered if some of
58:26
the the skinwalker accounts that I have
58:29
received have been embellished upon by
58:32
the younger folks. So, uh, I don't know.
58:36
But, traditionally, the skinwalker is a
58:40
is a Navajo witch who has the ability to
58:43
possibly shapeshift or move their body
58:46
in a in a form that seems to be
58:48
possessed.
58:50
And in some cases, they are said to feed
58:54
upon the dead. But I don't know if I've
58:58
ever had an occasion or had an account
59:00
that that actually demonstrated that.
59:06
[sighs and gasps] Ali Staring, do you
59:07
have any objects that are possessed or
59:10
cursed? Do I?
59:13
Uh, [sighs and gasps]
59:14
yeah, I do. I do.
59:18
And that's all I'll say. But I do
59:22
there's some people in this um
59:25
in this chat who do know I have certain
59:28
things that are supposed to be possessed
59:31
or that I feel are possessed. But um I
59:35
don't try to keep too many of them. And
59:37
if I do keep it, it's for a good reason.
59:41
I don't use it in any type of uh work
59:43
that I do. It's just a curiosity for the
59:46
most part or it's maybe a crystal or
59:48
something that holds a lot of value to
59:51
me. But um it it's kept well far away
59:55
from everybody.
1:00:04
Anything else, folks?
1:00:10
Okay. Well,
1:00:13
I want to thank you all for coming in
1:00:15
and uh
1:00:17
all I can tell you is uh just stay safe,
1:00:20
stay aware, and as always, keep looking
1:00:22
into the unexplained.
1:00:24
Uh I don't know if you enjoyed this type
1:00:27
of presentation tonight, but it was
1:00:29
something different. So, I hope you got
1:00:30
something out of it. So, anyway, have a
1:00:33
nice evening, have a great weekend, and
1:00:36
and see you next week. Good night.
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[music]
1:01:07
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