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Some objects are said to carry more than age, memory, or history. In tonight’s Phantoms & Monsters Radio presentation, we examine disturbing accounts involving allegedly possessed, cursed, and haunted objects, including dolls, a Ouija board, an antique chair, a haunted vehicle, and the infamous painting known as The Anguished Man.
These cases raise a deeper question. Can an object become a vessel, trigger, or focal point for paranormal activity, or are fear and suggestion enough to create the appearance of a haunting?
• Haunted clown wall decoration linked to nightmares, animal fixation, and a missing-time style blackout
• Ouija board cases involving obsession, attachment, household collapse, and long-term oppression
• The Anguished Man painting chronology, based on reports initially sent directly to Lon by Sean Robinson
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Heat. Hey, heat. Hey, heat.
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Hey folks, welcome to Fans of Monsters
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Radio.
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So, tonight we're stepping into one of
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the most disturbing corners of
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paranormal lore. Uh, the claim that
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certain objects are not merely old,
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unusual, or emotionally charged, but
2:20
somehow inhabited, influenced, or used
2:23
by something unseen.
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Uh, a toy, a chair, a car, a painting,
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even a board meant for spirit
2:33
communication
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uh can become the center of fear when
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witnesses begin to believe the object is
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no longer passive but active.
2:43
In case after case,
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the pattern is strangely familiar. The
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atom enters the home or life. The
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atmosphere is changing. Sleep is
2:54
disrupted. People feel watched. Animals
2:57
react. Objects move. Voices are heard. A
3:02
fixation begins. The question is always
3:05
the same. Are these just frightening
3:07
interpretations layered over
3:10
coincidence?
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Or can certain objects truly become
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vessels, trigger points, or focal
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anchors for something darker? Tonight,
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we look at a at nine accounts that force
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that question into the open.
3:27
Now, the first case begins with
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something that should have been
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harmless. A child's gift hung on a wall
3:34
like any other decoration.
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But in this home, the object did not
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remain decorative for long.
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What followed was fear, nightmares,
3:44
animal fixation, and a blackout that
3:47
still defies explanation.
3:52
So, the witness says, "This story
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happened to me when I was around 11 and
3:56
in the early 2000s.
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My mom's friend gave us a Valentine Day
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gift, um, a wall decoration featuring a
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clown sitting on a wooden swing. The
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clown's body was made of cloth and its
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head was ceramic. Overall, it looked
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cute, so we didn't mind putting it on
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the wall. After all, it was a gift and
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we wouldn't just throw it away.
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At that point, I wasn't afraid of
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clowns. Now, our apartment was
4:25
essentially a single single room with a
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separate kitchen. My parents had just
4:29
reconciled, so we all slept in one room,
4:33
which also served as a TV room. The
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clown hung right above my bed.
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Things started to get strange right
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away. I felt as though I was being
4:43
observed in that room and throughout the
4:44
entire apartment, which made me
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uncomfortable.
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I began having sleeping problems and
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experiencing frequent nightmares that
4:53
were often violent.
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I was not a fan of horror movies and did
4:58
not consume any scary content. Now, this
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uncomfortable feeling continued. And one
5:04
night, I woke up and immediately sensed
5:06
that I was being watched. My dog often
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slept on my bed, and when I looked at
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her, she was staring up at the clown. I
5:14
freaked out.
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I started to pet her, but she completely
5:18
ignored me. I poked her and she showed
5:20
no reaction as if she were hypnotized.
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Now, after a while, she came back to me.
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I hugged her tightly and couldn't sleep
5:30
for the rest of the night.
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Now, I didn't want to talk to my parents
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about the clown because I thought it was
5:36
only in my head.
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So, the next morning, I decided I'd had
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enough of the clown. Before school, I
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talked to it saying that I hated it and
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I'd throw it away if it didn't stop
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bothering me.
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It felt empowering, even though a part
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of me laughed at myself for being
5:54
believing in such a nonsense.
5:57
That day, my mom mentioned she needed to
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go to the train station to meet her
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friend, who would be staying overnight
6:03
with us. Now, my dad was on a business
6:06
trip, so I had to stay home alone after
6:08
school until about 8:00 p.m.
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I was, of course, scared, but everything
6:14
went well while it was still daylight.
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I watched cartoons and some teen shows.
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As the sun started to set, I decided to
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turn on the light, but the lamp wouldn't
6:26
work. The switch was dead. I thought,
6:29
"Okay, I'll try the corer light again."
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Nothing.
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My heart raced and I felt paralyzed by
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fear. I told myself I'd just sit on the
6:39
sofa, watch TV, and nothing would happen
6:41
to me. Then out of the corner of my eye,
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I saw one of the clown's legs move
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slightly and bounce against the wall. I
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tried to convince myself that it was
6:51
just imagining things and it was just
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simply a toy. But what happened next is
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completely black was a complete blackout
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for him.
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According to my mom, when she returned
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home with her friend, they rang the
7:04
doorbell, but I had already locked the
7:06
door. I didn't open it. They called on
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the home phone and I didn't answer. They
7:14
went downstairs to ask the concierge if
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he had had seen any if she had seen
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anything. The dog was barking like crazy
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and they could hear it through the two
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locked doors.
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There was a light on it in my room and
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they could see it from the balcony.
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This went on for about 30 m minutes
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before my they finally called for
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emergency services to break into the
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apartment, which took about 10 minutes.
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I woke up and my to my dog poking me
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with her cold nose in the face and
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hands.
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All I remember is light everywhere, my
7:48
dog jumping on me and barking, the phone
7:51
ringing constantly, and people knocking
7:53
on the door yelling my name. It was
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chaos.
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I was lying on a pillow under the
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blanket as if I had just gone to sleep.
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And when I opened the door, my mom and
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her friend was hysterically crying. They
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thought I was dead or something. I told
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them I had been watching TV and must
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have fallen into a deep sleep, so I
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didn't hear anything.
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So, after we ate, we got ready for bed
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around 1000 p.m. I slept in bed with my
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mom and her friend. Now, I didn't
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mention the clown because I was too
8:24
stressed about everything else that had
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happened.
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The next morning, her friend told us she
8:29
felt very uncomfortable and couldn't
8:31
fall asleep because she felt watched.
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She then pointed at the clown, saying it
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was creepy.
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That's when I revealed the last thing I
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remembered was the clown's leg moving
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before I passed out. We all got chills.
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The next morning, I went to school and
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my mom threw the clown far away from our
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area.
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It would have been nice if she had told
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me beforehand. Because when I came home
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from school and didn't see the toy, I
9:02
spun around, fearing it was lurking
9:04
behind me with a knife.
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When I realized it had just gone, I sat
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near the open front door and waited for
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the adults to come back from work.
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That's my story. Other weird things have
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happened in the apartment as well.
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Now, not every cursed object
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uh case begins with a doll, painting or
9:28
relic. Sometimes the object is just
9:31
ordinary, almost absurdly so until it
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becomes begins behaving in a way that
9:38
nobody can explain.
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In 1955,
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one California family found themselves
9:45
at the center of a national mystery
9:48
after a garden hose appeared to bury
9:51
itself alive.
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Now, this unsolved mystery from 1955 in
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Downey, California created a national
9:59
stir.
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It all began when approximately 18 ft of
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green plastic garden hose mysteriously
10:06
dis disappeared in the ground at Mr.
10:10
George Depeso's backyard.
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Scientists from California Institute of
10:15
Technology arrived to inspect the
10:17
remaining section of Mr. Depaso's house
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as the situation had already baffled
10:24
both local police and the engineers from
10:25
the water company.
10:28
Even an amateur prospector equipped with
10:30
a geer county was counter was unable to
10:32
uncover the mystery of where the hose
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had gone. The depesos had a restless
10:38
weekend. "It's horrible," said Mr.
10:40
Depeso. "We can't get any rest." "There
10:43
was a woman sitting outside most of the
10:45
night, and every once in a while she'd
10:47
scream, "It's wiggling. It's wiggling."
10:50
There were people here all night. Once I
10:53
looked out and saw 14 c couples dressed
10:55
in evening clothes standing on our lawn.
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Now Mr. Depaso had to rip off his lawn
11:02
to protect the flower beds from
11:04
trampling feet.
11:06
One enterprising vendor set up a hot dog
11:08
and coffee stand while extra police were
11:10
sent to the peso home to manage the ever
11:13
growing crowd.
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Now a neighbor, Mrs. Robert Breeze,
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reported that her own hose started to
11:20
disappear into the ground. on the
11:22
previous Friday, but her husband cut it
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off after 15 ft had vanished.
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Now, as the story goes, they never
11:31
figure out how the hose managed to bury
11:33
itself or why they couldn't find it
11:35
back. They couldn't pull it back up, and
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Mr. Depes eventually cut it off at
11:40
ground level, declaring, "If it wants to
11:43
sink down and disappear completely, my
11:44
prayers go with it." However, the burial
11:48
site continues to attract onlookers for
11:50
several months. Eventually, Mr. Depeso
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dug up a 25 ft deep hole and pulled out
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the remaining length of the hose.
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I think I'll just keep it as a pet, he
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joked.
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Now, some objects do not stand alone.
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They emerge from a larger environment
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already saturated with chaos, fear,
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addiction, emotional collapse.
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In this next account, an unwanted doll
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seemed to become the most visible
12:23
expression of something deeply wrong
12:25
inside an already infested house.
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Now, a witness recalled a deep
12:33
unsettling period from adolescence when
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they lived in an old house saturated
12:37
with drug activity, emotional
12:40
instability, and repeated paranormal
12:43
manifestations.
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Along a among a collection of dolls kept
12:47
in the mother's bedroom, one object in
12:49
particular stood out. An Ernie doll,
12:53
reportedly unwanted from the start, was
12:56
said to speak on its own even long after
12:58
its batteries had been removed. Now, in
13:01
the context of the house and the
13:03
activity centered around the room, the
13:05
witness came to believe that the doll
13:07
may have been more than a toy. It may
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have been a focal point for something
13:12
darker.
13:14
Now, according to the witness, their
13:16
mother collected Elmo dolls, not Ernie
13:18
dolls. The Ernie doll had been given to
13:21
her as a gift, and although she didn't
13:23
want it, she kept it out of politeness.
13:26
Now, at first glance, that detail may
13:28
seem trivial. Yet, in many accounts
13:30
involving alleged haunted or cursed
13:33
objects, the item in question is often
13:35
one that was not intentionally sought
13:37
out, but brought into the home anyway
13:39
and reluctantly tolerated.
13:43
Now, at the time, the witness and their
13:45
siblings had been returned to had been
13:47
returned to their mother's custody after
13:50
a long struggle involving mental illness
13:52
and drug abuse.
13:54
The old house where they live soon
13:56
became a center of legal activity after
13:58
the mother's relapse.
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The witness stated that many dangers and
14:03
morally compromised people moved it
14:05
through the home. Yet, strikingly, even
14:09
some hardened criminals and drug dealers
14:11
were reportedly terrified what they
14:13
encountered there, claiming they had
14:14
seen something in the house that just
14:16
wasn't human.
14:18
The dolls were kept in the mother's
14:20
bedroom, which the witness described as
14:22
the main hub of the illegal activity.
14:27
Paranormal experience
14:30
experiences occurred throughout the
14:32
house, but that bedroom and the old
14:34
bathroom seemed uh to seem especially
14:38
active.
14:39
Of all the dolls in the room, the Ernie
14:41
doll was the only one said to speak on
14:44
its own.
14:46
The witness recalled being in the living
14:48
room and hearing a doll talking from
14:50
inside the bedroom closet.
14:53
More disturbing disturbingly still, this
14:56
allegedly continued even after the
14:58
batteries removed long after any normal
15:01
explanation could have been ruled out.
15:03
Now, the witness admitted wanting to
15:05
believe that there was a logical
15:07
explanation, but said that given the
15:09
larger context of that house, the
15:12
repeated incidents felt too coincidental
15:15
to dismiss.
15:17
This was not a single strange noise in
15:19
an otherwise normal home. It was one
15:22
detail within a larger pattern of
15:24
persistent anomaly act anomalous
15:27
activity.
15:28
That pattern included reports of ghosty
15:31
or demonic entities seen by multiple
15:33
people particularly near the old
15:35
bathroom beside the bedroom. The witness
15:38
also described an incident involving
15:40
white sage which would burn in every
15:42
room in the house except one.
15:45
In that single room, it would always go
15:47
out no matter how many attempts were
15:49
made.
15:51
To those who work in cleansing
15:52
traditions, such behavior is often
15:56
interpreted as a sign of concentrated
15:58
spiritual resistance or entrenched
16:00
negative energy.
16:02
The witness further stated that someone
16:04
in the house became possessed or at
16:07
least exhibited behavior that the family
16:09
interpreted as a possession.
16:12
Taken together, the house presented a
16:14
classic profile infestation with
16:17
environmental manifestations, oppressive
16:19
emotional conditions, shadowy
16:22
apparitions,
16:24
possibly attachment, and one object that
16:27
repeatedly behaved in a way that drew
16:29
attention to itself.
16:31
Years later, after the mother returned
16:33
to jail and the family had escaped the
16:35
house, the witness observed that the
16:36
next tenants had covered the property
16:39
with visible religious protection.
16:41
Crosses, images of Jesus, the Virgin
16:44
Mary, and saints had reportedly been
16:46
placed on every wall, along the front
16:48
door, and near the exterior windows. The
16:52
witness never asked whether the new
16:54
tenants had experienced any activity
16:56
themselves, but the display strongly
16:58
suggested that they too believed the
17:00
house required spiritual defense.
17:03
In retrospect, the witness remains
17:06
convinced that something oppressive exa
17:08
existed in that house and that the Ernie
17:10
doll may have been one of its most
17:12
visible expressions.
17:14
Now, whether the doll was itself
17:16
possessed, acted as a vessel, or simply
17:19
became animated within an already
17:21
charged environment is impossible to
17:23
determine.
17:24
But in cases involving cursed or haunted
17:27
objects, that distraction is often
17:29
difficult to make. Sometimes the object
17:32
is the source. Sometime it's just the
17:35
mouthpiece.
17:39
Now, few objects carry as much occult
17:42
fear as the Ouija board.
17:44
But this early California case suggests
17:46
something even more dangerous than a
17:48
spirit message session going wrong.
17:52
Here, grief, obsession, and surrender
17:54
appear to build around the board until
17:56
an entire household be begins to lose
17:59
its grip on reality.
18:05
In late 1919, tragedy struck an Italian
18:09
family living in Elserto, California.
18:12
18-year-old Jenny Morrow was killed in a
18:14
brutal hit and run, leaving behind a
18:17
grieving mother, Mary Morrow, and a
18:19
devastated sister, Josephine.
18:23
The driver was never identified. What
18:25
began as a family's desperate attempt to
18:27
contact the dead and see justice soon
18:30
evolved into something far darker,
18:32
centered on the single object inside the
18:34
home, a Ouija board.
18:37
The family had owned the board since at
18:39
least 1918, but had rarely used it and
18:42
reportedly placed little faith in it.
18:45
That changed after Jenny's death. The
18:48
Ouija board was no longer treated as a
18:49
harmless amusement. It became an active
18:52
interest instrument of communication, a
18:56
gateway through which the Marorrow
18:58
believed they received messages from the
19:00
dead, including Jenna herself and Mary
19:03
Marorrow's late husband, Nagaro.
19:07
In the family's mind, the board had
19:09
transformed from a parlor object into an
19:11
empowered vessel.
19:14
At first, the purpose was simple. They
19:17
hoped the board would reveal the
19:18
identity of Jenny's killer. Josephine
19:21
even brought a string of a string of
19:24
numbers supposedly received in a dream
19:26
to local authorities, believing they
19:28
represented the killer's registration
19:30
number. But when this lead failed, the
19:33
family did not step back. They leaned
19:36
further in. The Ouija board sessions
19:39
continued and the messages became
19:41
increasingly forceful, emotional, and
19:43
ominous.
19:45
The family came to believe that the dead
19:48
were speaking through both dreams and
19:49
the board itself.
19:52
Now, this is where the object appears to
19:54
move beyond a mere tool and into the
19:56
territory of possible curse or
19:58
possession.
20:00
Now, the board did not simply provide
20:02
comfort. It escalated grief into
20:05
fixation. It drew in more participants.
20:08
It began shaping behavior. It started
20:11
issuing instructions.
20:14
What had once been a static household
20:16
item now seemed to exert influence over
20:19
the people around it.
20:22
Soon neighbors and extended family were
20:24
pulled into the circle. Among them was a
20:26
15-year-old Adelene Batini
20:29
who reportedly became convinced that she
20:32
was clairvoyant, functioning as a tra
20:34
trans tr transmeium and even being
20:37
controlled by Jenny Morrow's spirit.
20:40
Now, according to the account, Jenny's
20:41
spirit was said to dictate Adelene's
20:44
actions completely.
20:47
Another dead woman woman was also said
20:49
to exercise power over her. And at that
20:51
point, the pattern had shifted from
20:53
seance practice into apparent spirit
20:55
attachment or full domination.
20:59
The disturbing detail here is that the
21:01
board's influence did not stop at
21:03
communication.
21:05
It expanded into physical objects. The
21:08
supposed spears demanded specific items
21:10
from Adelene, including a comb set with
21:13
six different colored stones.
21:17
When that not could not be found, a
21:19
sixcolored corset was purchased instead.
21:23
The fixation on material objects,
21:25
clothing, adormates, ritual preparation,
21:27
and symbolic items is exactly the
21:30
pattern often reported in alleged
21:32
haunting haunted or cursed object items
21:36
or cases.
21:39
The object at the center, in this case
21:41
the Ouija board, appears to create a
21:44
chain of associated items that also
21:46
become absorbed in the phenomena.
21:50
Other objects within the house were then
21:52
treated as spiritually contaminated.
21:55
Adeline claimed that evil spirits had
21:58
entered her clothing.
22:00
Those those clothes were burned along
22:02
with money and possibly even the Ouija
22:04
board itself. Hair clippings from the
22:07
children were cut and burned to drive
22:09
out evil. Holy water was used to revive
22:12
one of the girls after repeated physical
22:14
distress.
22:16
An expensive dress and possibly a
22:18
diamond ring were purchased because the
22:19
spirits supposedly wanted them.
22:23
The home had become a closed ritual
22:25
environment in which ordinary items were
22:27
being reassigned spiritual meaning.
22:32
At the center of all this stood the
22:34
Ouija board, still functioning as a
22:36
command source, oracle, and trigger
22:38
object.
22:40
Now, by March 1920, the situation had
22:43
spiraled.
22:45
Seances were reportedly taking place
22:47
around the clock. Children were being
22:49
deprived of normal rest and care. At
22:52
least one woman was threatened with
22:53
bodily harm if she tried to leave.
22:56
Another family member was was told her
22:59
daughter would be brought in after the
23:01
board commanded it. A gravesized hole
23:05
appeared in or near the yard and was
23:08
interpreted as spirit activity. The
23:11
group believed the major spiritual
23:13
events called the passion display would
23:17
occur during which the evil and all of
23:19
them would be cast out.
23:22
Now this is where the possibility of a
23:24
curse becomes especially relevant. A
23:27
cursed object, a traditional lore does
23:30
not mere merely frighten. It distorts
23:33
judgment, isolates victims, drives
23:35
compulsion, and reorganizes the
23:38
environment around itself.
23:40
This is precisely what appears to have
23:43
happened here. The board became an axis
23:46
around which the house revolved. Human
23:48
agency weakened. The objects perceived
23:52
authority increase.
23:55
People in the house no longer seem to be
23:57
using the board. It seemed to be using
23:59
them.
24:01
Authorities eventually intervened after
24:03
neighbors reported bizarre activity and
24:05
behavior and suspected something was
24:07
very wrong inside the Morosa Devini
24:10
home, later dubbed the house of mystery.
24:14
When officers and a Catholic priest
24:16
gained access, they found the household
24:18
in a state of extreme nervous strain,
24:21
hunger, exhaustion, and apparent
24:23
psychological collapse. Mary Morrow
24:26
reportedly screamed that her dead
24:28
husband was present and would kill the
24:31
officers.
24:32
Another woman claimed that she had
24:34
undergone crucifixion
24:36
and been returned to Earth through
24:38
divine communication.
24:40
Four women were later committed after
24:43
the hearing, judged insane based largely
24:46
on our own testimony concerning the
24:48
board and spirits.
24:51
But the case did not end inside that one
24:53
house. The same Ouija centered fear
24:57
spread outward. A brick was reportedly
25:00
thrown through a jeweler's window at the
25:02
board's suggestion.
25:04
A San Francisco police officer became
25:07
obsessed with information he had
25:08
received in the Ouija board, armed
25:11
himself, vanished and behaved
25:13
erratically, and was later hospitalized.
25:17
Public fear escalated so sharply that
25:19
some communities discussed banning the
25:21
board outright. It was denounced from
25:23
pulpit, lecture halls, newspapers, and
25:26
even by health officials.
25:28
The object itself had become a suspected
25:30
contaminant,
25:32
a thing that not only reflected
25:34
instability, but also produced it.
25:38
That's what makes this case so powerful
25:40
for any discussion of possessed or curve
25:42
or cursed objects.
25:44
Now, the Ouija board in Elserto was not
25:47
described as physically attacking
25:49
anyone. It did something arguably more
25:52
insidious. It inserted itself into grief
25:55
and deepened that grief into dependency.
25:58
It encouraged ritual behavior claims of
26:00
spiritual authority, object fixation and
26:04
emotional surrender. It appears to have
26:07
blurred the line between mourning and
26:09
mediumship, then between mediumship and
26:12
obsession, and finally between obsession
26:15
and total psychic collapse.
26:18
Whether one interprets the board as an
26:21
actually possessed object, a cursed
26:23
item, or a psychological danger focus
26:25
for suggested minds,
26:28
the outcome was the same. Once it took
26:31
hold, the home changed. The people
26:32
changed. Everyday items became
26:35
spiritually charged. Children were
26:38
pulled into the drama. Reality itself
26:40
seemed to bend around what the board
26:42
said next,
26:44
even after it was reportedly burned.
26:48
The board re retained its reputation and
26:51
later inspired a horror film built
26:53
around the idea that the object had
26:56
survived and remained dangerous.
26:59
So the central question remains was the
27:02
Ouija board simply a tool onto which
27:04
grief and fear were projected or did
27:07
become something more a conduit, a
27:09
vessel, a cursed object that fed on
27:12
sorrow and disorder?
27:15
Whatever the answer in this case, the
27:16
board did not bring closure. It brought
27:18
escalation. It brought domination. And
27:22
for one California household in 1920, it
27:25
brought the unmistakable impression that
27:27
something unseen had entered through an
27:29
object and had taken control.
27:36
Now, antique objects often come with
27:39
history, but occasionally witnesses
27:41
claim they come from something else.
27:44
Now, in this case, a child a child's
27:47
chair purchased at auction allegedly
27:50
began moving from room to room,
27:52
appearing in impossible places and
27:54
eventually vanishing entirely.
27:58
A woman named Sonia reported a bizarre
28:00
and unsettling series of events after
28:02
she and her husband purchased an antique
28:05
child's chair at an auction in December
28:07
2014.
28:09
According to a dealer friend who
28:10
attended the same sale, the chair likely
28:13
dated to the 1850s and was probably made
28:15
in Georgia.
28:17
Almost immediately after bringing it
28:19
home, the couple began experiencing
28:20
movement and relocation of the object
28:22
under circumstances they just couldn't
28:24
explain.
28:26
Over time, the chair seemed to develop a
28:28
pattern appearing where it should not
28:30
be, vanishing from secure locations and
28:33
returning in ways that suggested it was
28:36
not merely dis misplaced, but possibly
28:38
responding to some unknown force.
28:42
Sonia said she initially placed the
28:45
chair in the corner of the living room
28:46
after the couple returned home from the
28:48
auction. That same night, while in bed,
28:51
she and her husband heard dragging
28:53
sounds in the hallway outside their
28:54
bedroom door. Her husband cautiously got
28:58
up to investigate.
29:00
When he looked into the hall, the
29:02
antique chair was sitting against the
29:04
opposite wall upstairs, despite the fact
29:07
that had been left downstairs in the
29:09
living room. And when Sonia approached
29:12
the chair, she touched it and found it
29:14
to be ice cold. The couple brought it
29:17
into the bedroom, but neither could
29:19
shake the unease of what had happened.
29:22
Nothing else occurred that night, but
29:24
the incident marked the beginning of a
29:25
much much longer pattern.
29:29
The following day, after discussing the
29:31
event over breakfast, Sonia's husband
29:33
carried the chair downstairs and placed
29:35
it in the dining room while they talked.
29:39
Later, they returned it to its original
29:41
place in the living room corner. The
29:43
next morning, however, Sonia discovered
29:45
the chair was gone again. This time, she
29:48
found it sitting upright on the kitchen
29:51
table.
29:53
Dirt and soil was scattered across both
29:56
the table and the floor nearby, as if
29:58
the object had been transported from
29:59
some other place or handled by something
30:02
unconcerned about leaving a trace.
30:06
Now, at that point, her husband decided
30:07
to remove the chair from the house
30:09
altogether.
30:10
He took took it to work and left it in
30:13
his SUV for several days before finally
30:16
placing it in the four corner of his
30:17
office. For several weeks, there were no
30:20
reported activity suggesting that
30:22
whatever was happening had either
30:23
stopped or gone dormant.
30:26
But that changed one Saturday when the
30:28
husband returned to the office to
30:30
retrieve documents. When he entered, the
30:32
chair was gone. He searched throughout
30:35
the building, but found no sign of it.
30:37
Only when he began walking back to the
30:39
parking lot did he see it again. The
30:41
chair was sitting beside the driver's
30:43
side door of his vehicle as though it
30:46
was somehow moved itself from inside the
30:48
office to the lot outside. He loaded in
30:51
the SVUV, brought it home, and placed it
30:54
in the garage.
30:56
For nearly three months, the chair
30:59
remained exactly where he had left it.
31:01
Then, after Sonia decided to bring it
31:03
back into the house and returning to the
31:05
living room corner once more, the
31:07
phenomena resumed.
31:10
Two days later, after coming home from
31:12
shopping, she found that the chair had
31:13
disappeared again. This time, it did not
31:16
reappear. And by the time she wrote her
31:18
account, three weeks had passed, and
31:20
neither nor she nor her husband had any
31:23
idea where the chair had gone. They
31:25
searched everywhere, even clicking the
31:27
auction, checking the auction house in
31:30
case someone had returned it there.
31:33
Sonia admitted that by then she no
31:35
longer wanted the chair back at all.
31:38
What had begun as a decorative antique
31:40
had become an ongoing source of anxiety
31:43
and confusion. If the chair ever
31:45
reappeared, she intended to get rid of
31:47
it. The case raised the classy question
31:51
in haunted object lore. Was the chair
31:53
itself imbued with some residual
31:58
uh from its past or residue from its
32:01
past perhaps linked to a former owner of
32:03
traumatic event? Or was it acting as a
32:06
trigger object around which an
32:08
independent force chose to manifest?
32:11
Its repeated movement, sudden
32:12
relocation, icy temperature, and final
32:15
disappearance all pointed toward an
32:17
object centered anomaly rather than a
32:20
general house haunting. In other words,
32:23
the activity appeared to follow the
32:25
chair rather than the location.
32:29
If I have time at the end tonight, I'll
32:31
talk about a case I had involving a
32:34
chair. Very similar.
32:37
Anyway, some haunted object stories
32:40
become modern legends. And few have
32:43
recognized that the dick box, whether
32:46
folklore, fabrication, or genuine
32:48
infestation, the case remains a symbol
32:51
of the fear that an ordinary container
32:54
might hold a hostile spiritual presence.
32:58
Now, one of the most widely known modern
33:00
haunted object cases is the so-called
33:02
Divik box, a wine cabinet said to
33:04
contain a malicious spirit from Jewish
33:06
folklore. The case gained widespread
33:09
attention through Jason Haxton's book,
33:11
The Dick Box, and later inspired a
33:14
horror film, The Possession.
33:17
In Jewish tradition, the Dick is
33:19
generally understood as a restless or
33:21
wandering soul that clings to a living
33:23
person, often seeking to resolve
33:26
unfinished business. Now unlike Roman
33:29
Catholic concept of demonic possession,
33:31
the dik is usually described as a spirit
33:35
of a dead human being rather than the
33:38
devil or the demon. In some traditions,
33:41
the goal of the ritual intervention is
33:43
not simply to expel the spirit, but to
33:46
heal both the afflicted person and the
33:48
soul itself.
33:50
What made the divox case so unusual was
33:53
the claim that such a spirit could
33:55
attach itself not only to a person but
33:58
to an inanimate object. That idea does
34:02
not fit neatly in traditional Jewish
34:04
teaching and even some rabbis had
34:06
described the object centered version of
34:08
the story as more of an urban legend
34:10
than an orthodox belief. Still, the
34:13
story captured public attention because
34:16
it combined religious folklore,
34:20
alleged paranormal activity in the fear
34:22
that a simple antique item could carry
34:25
something so benevolent. Now, the digic
34:28
box has since become a modern symbol of
34:31
the cursed object phenomena. Whether one
34:33
sees it as folklore, psychological
34:35
projection, or a genuine case of
34:38
paranormal infestation,
34:40
it remains one of the best known
34:41
examples of an object believed to harbor
34:44
a hostile spiritual presence.
34:50
Not all haunted object claims involve
34:53
objects sitting quietly on a shelf.
34:57
Sometimes the alleged objects is mobile,
35:01
mechanical, and potentially lethal. In
35:04
this next account, a 1967 Mustang
35:08
seemed to become dangerous only on one
35:12
cemetery road, as though some unseen
35:14
force was waiting there to take control.
35:19
Now, a reader recalled a deeply
35:22
disturbing case involving her brother's
35:24
1967 red Mustang. A car she believes may
35:28
have been haunted or influenced by some
35:30
unseen force. Purchased in 1981, the
35:33
vehicle initially seemed fine. But after
35:36
local road work rerouted traffic through
35:38
a cemetery road lined with retaining
35:41
walls and disturbed graves, the car be
35:44
began behaving in a terrifying specific
35:47
way. According
35:50
to the witness, every time her brother
35:51
drove the Mustang through that stretch
35:53
of road, the car seemed to lurch toward
35:56
the wall as if someone else had taken
35:58
control. She said it felt like an unseen
36:01
force was grabbing the wheel and forcing
36:03
the accelerator down. Her brother had to
36:06
physically fight the steering to keep
36:09
from crashing and on several occasions
36:11
came within inches of impact.
36:15
What made the case especially strange
36:16
with was that the car showed no such
36:19
behavior anywhere else. The family's
36:21
mechanically skilled older brother
36:23
repeatedly inspected the vehicle,
36:26
checking the brakes, steering, and other
36:28
systems, but found nothing. The Mustang
36:31
only became dangerous on the cemetery
36:33
road.
36:35
Terrified that the car was trying to
36:36
kill him, her brother eventually stopped
36:38
driving and locked it away in storage.
36:41
Even years later, whenever he tested it
36:44
on the same road again, the behavior
36:45
returned. Convinced that something was
36:48
deeply wrong, he finally arranged to
36:50
have the Mustang destroyed at a
36:52
junkyard, even saying or even staying to
36:55
make sure it was crushed and could not
36:58
ever be driven again. Now, for the
37:00
witness, the memory never faded.
37:03
Whenever she hears stories about haunted
37:05
occurrence to vehicles, she remembers
37:07
that red Mustang and the fear on her
37:10
brother's face when he explained why the
37:11
car had to be destroyed.
37:17
Now, what happens when a spirit board
37:20
does not just produce a strange night,
37:22
but appears to mark the beginning of a
37:24
lifetime of oppression? This account is
37:27
especially unsettling because the
37:29
witness believed the object did not
37:31
simply summon activity around him, but
37:34
may have initiated an attachment that
37:36
followed him for decades.
37:41
Now, a man from Oklahoma described a
37:43
long disturbing chain of events that he
37:45
believed began after repeated use of a
37:47
Ouija board, first in a cemetery and
37:49
later inside the basement room in the
37:51
family home.
37:53
Over time, he came to suspect that
37:55
something far darker than a simple
37:57
spirit encounter had attached itself to
37:59
him. What began as curiosity eventually
38:02
evolved into years of misfortune,
38:04
paranormal manifestations, addiction,
38:07
isolation,
38:08
and the belief that the hostile presence
38:11
may have entered his life through a
38:13
cursed or spiritually compromised
38:15
object.
38:17
The witness who identified himself as JP
38:20
said he grew up near Ephola Dam and had
38:23
what he considered a normal happy
38:25
childhood.
38:27
Nothing in his early life suggested
38:28
instability on the usual experiences.
38:32
That changed when he was 16 years old
38:34
and along with his best friend and Clint
38:37
obtained a Ouija board. Late one night,
38:39
the two decided to use it in a cemetery,
38:42
a setting many would regard as highly
38:45
charged and spiritually unsafe.
38:48
Now, according to JP, the board appeared
38:50
to respond. During that session, they
38:52
communicated with an entity claiming to
38:55
be both his deceased father and a Nazi
38:58
SS officer.
39:01
At the time, he dismissed the experience
39:03
and went on with his life, not realizing
39:06
that this session may have marked the
39:08
beginning of something much more
39:10
serious.
39:12
Now, after a year later, JP used the
39:14
same board again, this time with another
39:16
friend named Chad. The two young men did
39:19
not know one another socially and
39:21
attended different schools and had no
39:22
shared background that might explain,
39:25
suggest, or coordinate responses.
39:28
Yet during that second session conducted
39:31
in a fully underground basement room of
39:33
JP's house, the same entity returned.
39:37
Once again, the board identified itself
39:40
as the presence of an SS officer.
39:43
JP said the spirit seemed calm enough
39:46
during those early contacts, but he now
39:50
believes those interactions may have
39:51
established a foothold. He suspects that
39:54
the object itself, the the Ouija board,
39:56
may have become contaminated or
39:58
spiritually charged after the cemetery
40:01
session, acting less like a harmless
40:03
game and more like the vessel of a door
40:06
or a doorway through which something
40:07
oppressive entered his life.
40:10
Years later, after leaving the Marines
40:12
and beginning work in a small town
40:15
newspaper as a small town newspaper
40:16
reporter, JP met a woman named Katrina
40:20
whom he described as deeply involved in
40:22
dark occult practices. During that
40:24
period, he used the Ouija board one
40:27
final time.
40:29
This time, the entity returned with a
40:31
different demeanor. no longer cordial.
40:34
It allegedly delivered a grim grim
40:37
prediction, telling him that he would
40:39
live a long life filled with strife,
40:41
depression, and distrust.
40:43
JP said that in hindsight, this moment
40:46
feels less like the message and more
40:47
like a declaration of intent, as though
40:50
the force behind the board had already
40:53
embedded itself in his life and now
40:55
revealing the shape of the curse to
40:57
come. According to his account, what
41:00
followed was not sudden destruction but
41:02
a slow deliberate unraveling.
41:06
His he described years of mounting bad
41:08
luck, worsening life circumstances,
41:10
failed opportunities, addiction, social
41:12
collapse, and growing pattern of
41:14
paranormal activity around him. He
41:17
claimed that wherever he went, other
41:20
people also noticed disturbances,
41:22
including unexplained noises, moving
41:25
objects, and cold spots.
41:27
He further stated that these
41:29
manifestations were not isolated the
41:31
private moments but had been witnessed
41:34
by others in homes, shelters and
41:36
volunteer volunteer spaces.
41:39
He also described a strange relationship
41:42
between his presence and environmental
41:44
anomalies including street and power
41:47
pole lights turning on and off around
41:49
him on a regular basis.
41:52
Though he acknowledged how unbelievable
41:54
this sounds, he insisted that the events
41:56
were consistent enough to convince even
41:58
skeptical observers that something
42:00
abnormal was occurring.
42:03
Most chilling was his belief that the
42:04
entity had not merely haunted locations,
42:07
but had attest itself directly to him.
42:11
JP did not describe classic demonic
42:14
possession. Instead, he suggested
42:15
something more insidious,
42:18
an oppressive attachment or curse bound
42:21
to his person and perhaps originally
42:23
transmitted through the Ouija board
42:25
itself.
42:26
In his words, it felt as if an an unseen
42:30
intelligence had remained with him for
42:32
decades, warping his luck, influences
42:34
his mental state, and manifesting around
42:37
those near him. Now, at the time he
42:40
wrote the account, JP said he was
42:42
homeless, isolated, and still
42:44
experiencing the presence. He added that
42:46
his nephew would often stare into the
42:49
corners of rooms and up at the ceiling
42:51
as if seeing something standing there.
42:54
Now, JP admitted that he had considered
42:56
the possibility of mental illness and
42:58
still on some days and still did on some
43:01
days, but retain remain convinced that
43:04
the phenomena was real and external.
43:07
Now taken as a whole, this account
43:08
raises serious questions about the role
43:10
of objects in cases of paranormal
43:12
attachment. If JP's interpretation is
43:15
correct, then the Ouija board was not
43:17
just a communication tool.
43:20
It it may have functioned as an
43:22
initiating object in a long-term
43:24
haunting curse or oppression case.
43:28
the cemetery setting, repeated sessions,
43:30
and later involvement with someone he
43:32
had believed practiced dark ritual work
43:34
may have compounded the original
43:36
contact. In that sense, the object was
43:40
not passive. It may have been a
43:42
mechanism through which the hostile
43:44
force gained access.
43:50
Now, we close the case lineup with one
43:52
of the best known haunted painting
43:54
reports of the modern era.
43:57
a work called the anguished man.
44:01
What makes the case especially important
44:04
is that Shaun Robinson, the owner,
44:06
initially contacted me directly.
44:10
in the chronologically chronological
44:13
um chron chronology unfolded over
44:16
multiple updates giving the story an
44:20
unusual trackable progression from
44:22
family legend to escalating claim
44:25
manifestations.
44:28
Again, one of the better known haunted
44:30
painting cases of the modern internet
44:32
era began with Shawn Robinson of
44:34
Cumbria, England, initially contacted me
44:38
about a disturbing portrait known as the
44:41
anguished man. Shawn explained that the
44:44
painting had long been feared within his
44:46
family and that unusual activity seemed
44:48
to follow wherever it was kept.
44:50
According to Shawn, his grandmother had
44:53
stored the painting in her attic for
44:55
approximately 25 years because she
44:57
believed it was evil. She reportedly
45:00
claimed that she had seen a dark male
45:02
figure in the house, heard strange
45:04
noises and crying during the night, and
45:06
believed that the artist had committed
45:08
suicide shortly after finishing the
45:10
work.
45:11
Family lore further held that the artist
45:14
had mixed his own blood into the oils
45:17
used in the paintings. Now, after
45:20
Shawn's grandmother died, the painting
45:21
came into his family's possession and
45:23
was placed in the basement.
45:26
Soon afterward, Shawn said that members
45:28
of the household had began seeing a dark
45:31
figure of a man and hearing crying,
45:33
moaning, and unexplained uh noises.
45:38
Now, in early by early June 2010,
45:43
Shawn had already reported the painting
45:45
was active in his house.
45:47
At that stage, the family heard strange
45:49
noises. Several people believed they saw
45:51
a shadowy or dark male apparition around
45:53
the house. Shawn, who said he had never
45:57
believed in the supernatural before,
45:59
told me he had become convinced that
46:02
something evil was attached to the
46:04
painting.
46:06
On December 19th, 2010, Shawn reported
46:09
that the disturbances had intensified
46:11
again after the painting was moved.
46:14
He stated that the noise had worsened
46:16
and that he was losing sleep due to the
46:19
activity. At that point, he said he had
46:21
become convinced that the events were
46:23
directly related to the painting. Shawn
46:26
then set up a camera to document what
46:29
was happening.
46:31
So on January 9th, 2011, Shawn said that
46:34
while reviewing photographs taken when
46:37
he was transporting the painting to his
46:39
car, he noticed something unusual in the
46:42
image of his sons in the back seat. He
46:45
questioned whether the anomaly in the
46:47
photograph might be connected to the
46:50
same presence believed to inhabit the
46:52
anguished man.
46:54
On February 16th, 2011, Shawn moved the
46:57
painting to an upstairs bedroom and
46:59
conducted several overnight recording
47:01
sessions using a video camera for about
47:04
eight hours over three consecutive
47:06
nights. I was part of that. Actually,
47:09
after reviewing the footage, he believed
47:12
he had captured unusual sounds distinct
47:15
from ordinary outdoor noise. Around the
47:18
same time, Shawn reported additional
47:20
incidents at the home. His wife
47:22
allegedly felt an unseeded handstroke on
47:24
her hair while she was in the bathroom,
47:27
and Shawn himself described seeing the
47:29
strange Mr. Foglike form on top of the
47:32
stairs that disappeared almost
47:33
immediately.
47:35
After those events, the painting was
47:37
returned to the cellar.
47:39
Now, on June 18, 2012, Shauner voted
47:42
provided another update stating that the
47:44
phenomena had worsened. He reported
47:47
hearing crying from the corner of the
47:50
bedroom and claimed that he and others
47:52
had seen the dark figure standing in the
47:54
foot of the bed, apparently watching
47:55
them. He described the apparition as
47:58
resembling a middle-aged man, but his
48:00
features were unclear. Despite his
48:02
apprehension, Shawn said his curiosity
48:05
as a former skeptic led him to move the
48:07
painting back into the bedroom to see
48:10
whether the activity would escalate.
48:14
Now taken in sequence, this case follows
48:17
a recognizable pattern often report in
48:19
alleged haunting object cases. Now the
48:22
painting was first first carried the
48:24
reputation within the family before
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Shawn inherited it. Once it entered a
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new household setting, the reported
48:30
manifestations resumed and then
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escalated over time. These included
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shadow figure settings, unexplained
48:37
crying and moaning, touch phenomena,
48:39
mistlike apparitions, sleep disruption,
48:42
and photographic anomalies. Each time
48:45
the painting was moved, Sha believed the
48:48
disturbances changed in intensity,
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suggesting that the object itself,
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rather than the location alone, was the
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focal point of the activity.
48:58
Now, what makes The Anguish Man
49:00
especially notable is just not the
49:02
legend attached to it, but also that
49:04
Shaun Robinson initially reached out to
49:06
me directly and continued to provide
49:09
updates as the events unfolded.
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The case spanned roughly two years, but
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the initial report in June 2010 through
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the escalation in June 2012. Now whether
49:21
one views it as a genuine haunting, a
49:24
case of suggestion amplified by family
49:26
lore or something in between, the
49:28
chronolog chronology of the Robinson
49:31
reports helped establish the anguished
49:33
man as one of the most discussed haunted
49:35
painting cases in recent memory.
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Now, when you step back and look at
49:42
these accounts together, one thing
49:44
becomes clear. The fear surrounding
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cursed or haunted objects is not really
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about the object alone. It's about what
49:52
people believe entered into it, attached
49:54
to it, or awakened through it. In nearly
49:57
every case, the item becomes more than
49:59
material. It becomes a focal point for
50:02
dread, obsession, disruption, and the
50:04
feeling as something unseen has found
50:06
the foothold in the physical world. Of
50:09
course, skepticism has to remain on the
50:11
table. Suggestion trauma, folklore,
50:13
grief, environmental stress, and
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misinterpretation
50:17
can all shape how these experiences are
50:20
perceived.
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But that does not erase the fact that
50:24
witnesses across generations continue to
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describe the same core patterns.
50:28
The object arrives, the atmosphere
50:30
changes, the household reacts, and
50:33
eventually someone decides the atom has
50:35
to go. The real question may not be
50:38
whether every object is truly haunted,
50:41
but whether certain objects become
50:43
powerful enough in human experience to
50:45
function as if they are. That's where
50:48
the legend ends and the investigation
50:51
begins. Now, if you've experienced
50:53
anything like this or had an explained
50:56
encounter or sighting, you can send your
50:58
report to Phantoms of Monsters. And as
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always, thanks for listening.
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So,
51:05
put your questions in all caps and send
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it and uh I'll see what I can answer for
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you.
51:25
Yeah, Dagnam remove stones from the
51:28
Gazbear battlefield is said to be bring
51:30
bad luck. I know this firsthand cuz I
51:33
had been to the visitors center years
51:37
ago when these boxes used to come in.
51:40
They literally were piled up in a back
51:43
room
51:45
and it it was bizarre because they the
51:48
notes that people put in those boxes
51:50
were are just ridiculous. I mean I did I
51:52
did an actual u video about it about
51:55
three or four years ago.
51:57
Uh but it didn't include stones, all
52:01
just stones. It was branches, pieces of
52:03
wood, other things, brick brack.
52:08
That room must have had at least 500
52:12
boxes of something in it. And what they
52:14
did, they they took the boxes, they kept
52:16
them there, they opened them up, but
52:18
they just closed them back up and never
52:20
took them out. I don't know if it's
52:23
still there or not. I have that visitor
52:25
center has been has been raised so I
52:28
don't know where everything's at.
52:33
Super chat real truth. Ken,
52:37
what do you think about the documentary
52:40
showing Patty was faked? I don't believe
52:42
it, but it shows how much the
52:44
controllers still want to control our
52:46
reality with an AI documentary.
52:50
Well, that really doesn't have much to
52:52
do with what we're talking about, and
52:54
I'll probably talk about this at a later
52:56
date, but
52:59
from what I have seen, and I have
53:01
written about this, and I talked about
53:02
it. I mean, I was on Space Radio last
53:05
month, and we talked about it
53:06
extensively.
53:08
Uh,
53:10
I'm not buying in I'm not buying into
53:12
it. I don't believe it. Um, I think um
53:15
Bob Gimlin is
53:18
too truthful to to even be a part of any
53:21
of that and I don't think he was hoaxed
53:23
either. So, um, that's all I got to say
53:26
about it now, but I I don't really
53:28
believe it. D Nemond, have you heard of
53:30
the Busby chair believed to cause the
53:32
death of anyone who sits in it? Yeah,
53:34
I've heard of it. I've heard of a lot of
53:37
different things. Um, a lot of times
53:39
involving chairs, which I had an
53:41
experience with, uh, with a haunting
53:44
locally,
53:45
uh, where we had to remove a chair,
53:49
but that particular case, I I don't know
53:52
a whole lot about it. I have heard of
53:53
it, though.
54:02
Anything else, folks?
54:12
Okay. So, until next week, uh, I'll
54:14
probably do another state show next
54:18
week. We'll see. Um, send me suggestions
54:20
what state you want me to do and I'll
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see what I can find. But until then,
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stay aware, stay safe, and as always,
54:27
keep looking into the unexplained. Have
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a nice weekend, have a great weekend,
54:32
have a nice evening. See you next
54:34
Friday. Good night.
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Heat. Heat.
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