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Insights from a Therapist - Inside Out 2 (2024 Film)
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Feb 6, 2025
Welcome to Adaptable | Behavior Explained! In this video, a licensed therapist shares professional insights on Pixar's Inside Out 2, exploring the film's portrayal of emotions and mental health. Through the characters Joy, Sadness, Anger, Fear, Disgust, and newly introduced Anxiety, Embarrassment, and Envy. The movie presents a thoughtful depiction of how we manage emotions in real life. Learn how the film reflects key concepts in psychology, emotional intelligence, and child development, and discover practical takeaways about understanding and validating your own feelings. Whether you're a fan of the movie or interested in mental health, this discussion offers a fresh, therapeutic perspective on the emotional journey we all experience. I'm Kelly O'Horo, Attachment based EMDR Therapist, EMDRIA Consultant, and Advanced Trainer. I'm a mom of 5, Nonna of 5, wife, and a healer. I have the honor of spending my workdays walking along side people while they brave their healing journeys. I try to live with the generous assumption that we're all doing the best we can with what we know. Therapists are teachers for the "life stuff" and "emotional vocabulary" that may not have been learned due to gaps in our care givers capabilities. In the last 15 years I've learned that people are freaking amazing, resilient, and inspiring. Most importantly, we are hardwired for connection and for healing! I hope to bring an authentic, compassionate, and unpolished approach while we explore a variety of topics such as parenting, marriage, relationships, dating, trauma, attachment, adoption, depression, addiction, anxiety, and love! There's a why for all behaviors and an explanation that makes perfect sense as emotion is at the root of it all. -- Links -- https://linktr.ee/kellyohorolpc https://youtu.be/rLnARKekvgo https://www.emdria.org/find-an-emdr-therapist/
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hi everyone I'm Kell ooro and this is
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adaptable Behavior explained hi there
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thanks for tuning in to adaptable today
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I love the movie Inside Out I can't say
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enough about it and when they came out
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with inside out too I was like I have to
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do a show talking about the important
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concepts related to the emotions that
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emerge in Inside Out 2 so if you haven't
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seen inside out one definitely watch it
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and then grab inside out to um I also
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have an episode on inside out one and
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the role of the different emotions um
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related to Riley and her journey and her
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move from Minnesota to San Francisco so
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just for those of you who haven't seen
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inside out too hopefully this encourages
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you to see it because it really does
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teach us a lot about the role of
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emotions and mental health and just how
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we navigate those emotional experiences
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and so inside out to um follows Riley
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who's the main character uh and she's
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now a
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teenager it should be nothing but smooth
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sailing from hello I'm anxiety where can
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I put my stuff a new emotion oh I'm
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sorry we wanted to make such a good
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first impression what do you mean we as
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she navigates new emotions like anxiety
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embarrassment Envy alongside with the
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familiar emotions from episode one which
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are Joy sadness anger fear and disgust
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and one of my favorite parts of the
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movie is when you see the control panel
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change and you see the puberty light go
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[Music]
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off that off
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Jo the
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apocy what are you doing and I just
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laughed so hard I I watched it again
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last night to kind of prepare a a little
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bit more for for showing or for filming
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today and um I just remember thinking
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and and whether it's clients and their
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children or friends or even when my own
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kids were during puberty it's just such
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a roller coaster and they do just a
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brilliant job just depicting this change
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you know hormonally that that Riley goes
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through and so what we see in inside out
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too is the um is her transition into
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puberty and she starts to learn uh to
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become more autonomous family becomes
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less important which is developmentally
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appropriate she starts leaning more on
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friends and social Outlets as part of
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her normal developmental process and
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connection and so it just really does a
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beautiful job to depict her experience
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and her family's experience of her uh
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through this um developmental milestone
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of puberty and today I'm going to
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discuss the emotions that show up during
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Inside Out 2 in Riley's character and of
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course our president alliva
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uh as we get more comple complex and the
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more life that we experience and I'm
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going to use uh research from yak pinp
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and from bernee Brown they are my two
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favorite emotion researchers and the the
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people that I glean the most from when
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it comes to the purpose and function of
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of emotion and so what we see come into
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the movie um are are several new
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emotions and first we have anxiety
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orange who made the console orange do I
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look orange I didn't touch it orange is
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not my color not me hello
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everybody oh my gosh I am just such a
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huge fan of yours and now here I am
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meeting you face to face okay how can I
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help uh I can take notes get coffee
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manage your calendar walk your dog carry
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your things watch you sleep anxiety is
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part of the fear system it's crucial for
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anticipating and avoiding potential
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threats and so we want to have some
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anxiety it I've never met anybody who
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has um who has a master's degree or
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higher or or who is successful in their
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careers that doesn't have probably meet
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criteria for generalized anxiety
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disorder quite frankly because anxiety
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is a great motivator to avoid failure
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and to to do well it um often stems from
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uncertainty and vulnerability so anytime
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we're risking something new we're going
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to feel some anxiety and vulnerability
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is like the risk of emotional exposure
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without any guarantee and so these
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emotions go hand in hand and so
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recognizing and addressing anxiety can
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lead to Greater resilience and courage
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and again just like all the other
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emotions that we talked about we don't
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want to shove things away we want to
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lean into the emotional experience and
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we want to understand what is it trying
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to help us help us with how is it trying
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to protect us what is it trying to teach
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us and so in the movie we see anxiety
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take over when Riley learns that her
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friends are going to attend a different
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high school and it leads her to try and
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reinvent herself and so she first
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obviously feels sadness in that she
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tries to shove it away and then she's
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she's anxious because she's going to
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this new school and she's like what am I
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going to do if I'm alone we all have a
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job to do you make Riley happy sadness
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makes her sad fear protects her from the
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scary stuff she can see and my job is to
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protect her from the scary stuff she
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can't see I plan for the future and so
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anxiety shows up trying to fortify her
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to make sure she's likable and that she
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can find belonging with a new friend
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group because she's losing her friends
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because they're going to go to another
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school seriously and we Goof Off with
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Bri and Grace Riley looks really uncool
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in front of Val she fails to impress the
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coach does not become a fireh hawk and
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finally arrives at high school she has
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no one she eats alone and only the
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teachers know her name and so when you
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think about the purpose of anxiety it's
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it's um it's not a bad thing it's just
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bad when it takes over too much and
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we'll see in the movie as well where
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anxiety really spins out of control and
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creates a lot of damage and so uh to to
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RI 's detriment although trying to
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protect her it it's a bit of a
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sabotaging experience come on Riley get
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it together I'm not good enough you have
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to score r or this will all have been
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for nothing anxiety you're putting too
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much pressure on her
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[Applause]
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and so for those of you who struggle
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with anxiety you might find that to be
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true where you worry so much about
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something that it ends up being
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counterintuitive to the outcome you're
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hoping to gain um next we're going to
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talk about
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embarrassment okay who's this guy what's
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your name big fella that's embarrassment
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he's not really big on eye contact or uh
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like talking but he's a really sweet guy
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well welcome to headquarters
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embarrassments oh we're doing a fit no
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oh NOP going high oh you got a real
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sweaty Palm there buddy Yak pep talks
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about embarrassment uh in that it helps
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maintain our social norms avoid actions
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that could lead to social rejection
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because we all really do better in a
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group uh an embarrassment it's a natural
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response to social mistakes uh and if we
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embrace it it can foster authenticity
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and connection so if you think about if
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you walked out of a bathroom and you had
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a piece of toilet paper on your foot
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embarrassment is a emotion that will
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show up that other people could relate
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to you know we all have had something
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silly like a to piece of toilet paper on
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our foot when you walk out of the
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bathroom and so we can kind of laugh
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about it we can lean into it we can tell
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the stranger that we see hey let me let
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me let you know you've got this thing on
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your foot and it creates connection but
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I love in the movie that he appears
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because especially in our teen years
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embarrassment really runs rampant I mean
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we are so concerned with our uh peers
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and their our social experience and our
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social uh influence and so uh we see it
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during Riley's awkward moments at school
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um and it highlights the importance of
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that social acceptance and so you see
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her face flush you see the character of
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of um embarrassment show up and they did
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a great job you know putting him in this
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hoodie and then he can just bury himself
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so that basically only his nose is
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showing it's like I want to get small
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when I feel embarrassed I just want to
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hide and not be seen and so it's just a
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really important emotion to have more
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understanding about and embarrassment is
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different than humiliation it's
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different than guilt um and it's
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different than shame and so it's
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important to recognize that all of those
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other emotions also exist and they are
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separate from embarrassment next we have
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Envy I wish I was as talls you I'm Envy
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every emotion is good for Riley an
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invitation we're
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going we need hair like that what are
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you doing so I love how they depict Envy
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because she's small she um she's excited
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but she kind of Works hand inand with
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anxiety because Envy can motivate people
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to improve themselves but can also lead
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to negative feelings if not managed
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properly so if I have so much Envy um
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when I compare myself to other people
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then I can always feel like I'm falling
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short um you know I once had a client
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who really beat himself up because you
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know he played uh he played a sport uh
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and there was another fellow on his team
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that was so much better and he just was
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so envious of that um of that kid's
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abilities and because he couldn't
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measure up to this kid and his uh his
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golf abilities he felt a lot of he felt
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bad about himself and so oftentimes Envy
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masks deeper feelings of inadequacy and
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worthlessness and so if we understand
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and address Envy it can lead to personal
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growth and ultimately self-compassion
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you know working with him we had to get
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to a place where I basically said you
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know there always going to be somebody
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better than you at everything you do I
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mean very very few of us are the best at
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something and even that is shortlived
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even down to like Olympians and things
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like that you know they might be the
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best right now but eventually someone
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will beat them and so and it's it's not
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something we want to perseverate on we
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want to recognize it can help motivate
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us to do better and pull uh and work
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harder but it's not necessarily
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something that we want to grab on so
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tightly to in the movie Envy drives
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Riley to compare herself to to others
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which impacts her self-esteem and makes
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her feel less than does anybody know
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what cool people laugh about I don't
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know we were too focused on the arms
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thing just pretend we get the joke man
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they think is cool not what we actually
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like quick recall everything we know
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about music and so we want to make sure
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we keep that in check and recognize that
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too much is too much and it's not going
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to be useful and then of course we have
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joy I talked about joy in our in our
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last episode but joy promotes
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exploration creativity and social
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bonding people want to be around joyful
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people and joy arises from moments of
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authenticity and gratitude which
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enriches our lives and helps our
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relationships improve and so most of us
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really want joy at the steering wheel of
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ourselves we we all want to feel happy
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and joyful and connected but the truth
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of the matter is is all of our emot
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emotions are equally important and in
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the movie you see joy that uh she's
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trying to maintain Riley's happiness at
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all costs by focusing on positive
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experience
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and in inside out too you see you know
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her and anxiety go to go head-to-head a
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little bit about you know who needs to
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be sort of in charge I am truly sorry I
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was so looking forward to working with
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you guys what do you think you're doing
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Riley's life is more complex now it
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requires more sophisticated emotions
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than all of you you just aren't what she
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needs anymore
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Joy how dare you madam you can't just
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bottle us up oh that's a great idea and
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anxiety is is an emotion that occurs
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during her her experience of Riley's
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experience of puberty because Joy kind
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of just wants to paint a broad brush of
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everything's always great and um and
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anxiety is like we have to be more
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conscientious of our social experiences
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now we we're leaving our family system
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where there's unconditional positive
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regard and they are safe and I'm
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securely attached and now I'm moving
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into this social experience where I
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don't have great predictability about
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how people are going to perceive me and
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I really need to be watching and paying
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attention to you know how people receive
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me and then I start to curtail my
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behavior a little bit and that's just
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part of the developmental process and
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it's normal the next emotion we're going
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to talk about is sadness and uh I
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believe sadness is is the hero in inside
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out one and ultimately in almost all of
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our counseling work sadness is ult is
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the goal we want to get to the grief of
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the things that happened to us that
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shouldn't have happened to us often
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times underneath our anger underneath
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our resentment is feelings of sadness
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for what we don't have and sadness
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signals a need for comfort for support
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it Fosters social bonds it Fosters
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connections sadness allows us to process
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our grief and Find meaning in our
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experiences and ultimately it leads to
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Greater resilience and empathy we can
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only love if we've allowed ourselves to
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feel the sadness and the loss when we've
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lost things uh because we we will
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otherwise armor up our hearts and we
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won't allow space in for for the moments
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that we need to experience sadness for
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and in the movie we see sadness helping
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Riley process her feelings about her
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changing relationships and fortunately
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at this point Joy has a better
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understanding about RI about Riley's
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needs to experience sadness and we see
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that evolution in Joy's character where
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um sadness is is incredibly important um
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for her to understand the feelings of
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loss and the changes that she's going
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through so that she can find more
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resilience and find more um capacity
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through those connections that are
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cultivated through allowing the sadness
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to just be experienced next we are going
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to talk about anger many of my clients
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favorite emotion in the movie um I think
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it's so funny I think anger does such a
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great job especially in the second um in
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in the second movie you see the
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motivation for Action to overcome
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obstacles and assert boundaries um anger
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often masks deeper emotions like fear or
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hurt so understanding and expressing
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anger in a constructive way it can lead
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to healthier relationships and
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ultimately personal growth and allows
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you to get underneath that feeling which
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is often times seen as a secondary
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emotion to the more vulnerable um
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emotions that are fear and hurt and
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sadness and so in the movie we see um
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anger pushing Riley to stand up for
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herself when she feels treated unfairly
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to assert herself in proactive ways and
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I think I think it's really important to
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see that uh and we saw it a little bit
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an inside out one but we saw the mom and
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dad uh take that anger in kind of a
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shocking way whereas I thought it was
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pretty appropriate that she was anger
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angry in inside out one and in inside
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out two we see moments where um she's
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trying to navigate this the the slurry
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of emotions all at the same time and um
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and I love that with this movie we can
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see how many emotions can be present at
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the very same time time and it allows us
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to realize we don't necessarily have to
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be able to name and label uh one only
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but but that we can be complex and
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multifaceted when it comes to the way
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our emotions are showing up and so next
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we're going to talk about fear and fear
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triggers the fight ORF flight response
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um It prepares our body to respond for
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danger uh and and like I said in episode
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uh the last episode it can be paralyzing
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but it's also powerful and it's a
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powerful motivator um and so if we
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manage our fear it leads us to to
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courage um vulnerability ultimately
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greater connections because we can
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express our our our experiences and be
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in connection with others we see in the
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movie that fear helps Riley prepare for
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potential dangers in a new situation and
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my favorite scene of fear in Inside Out
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2 was when um they were all on the
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balloon flying away and uh the balloon
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ends up popping and they have no option
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and fears like thought ahead for the
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potential danger and fears like grab on
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to
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me oh
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no help me seriously help
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me Fe you have a parachute uh yes the
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real question is why don't any of
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[Music]
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you we did it we made it come on to the
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back of the mine you think about and his
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ability to just foresee potential danger
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and be prepared and um I think that
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being prepared is part of what fear does
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for us um in conjunction with anxiety so
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long as it's not in in great uh out of
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balance in great proportion and so we
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then see disgust who is one of my
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favorite uh characters of all time no
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that's that folks is the infamous
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disgust let the professional handle
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this who are you I don't like this what
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you're paranoid I never miss a
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look there hiding something but what uh
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disgust helps avoid harmful substances
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um keeps us away from things that are
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dangerous spoiled sour uh helps us to
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maintain social norms and it can also
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help us to see uh moral and ethical
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boundaries you know most of us feel the
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same way about certain behaviors um you
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know for example sexual abuse to
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Children most of of us find repulsive
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and disgusting and it and this is a
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moral and ethical boundary that that in
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a social Norm we can all really agree
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upon and so navigating social
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interactions uh in order to maintain
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personal Integrity is really part of
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keeping us in group or in tribe you know
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if we do things that are perceived as
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disgusting by social normative uh
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standards then we end up on the outside
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of a group and we're considered more of
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an outlier so this emotion helps us to
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kind of determine what is what is
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healthy safe or good or not good and so
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in the movie discussed does many
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wonderful things but uh in inside out
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too ensures that Riley behaves
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appropriately in these social settings
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because ultimately her goal is to make
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new friends and have connection in her
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new experience and discust serves as a
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really important role to keep her in
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line um and then ultimately the control
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center uh for headquarters is is really
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the brain and how the brain controls all
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of our life functioning and so we have
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the sub the cerebrum that handles
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thinking movement feeling we've got the
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hypothalamus that keeps our body in
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balance by controlling hunger thirst
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temperature and those physical
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attributes of safety the brain stem uh
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controls our autonomic functions like
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breathing and heart rate blinking and
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our lyic system is where the movie
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really hones in which is the emotional
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Center and ultimately our threat
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Response Center or our alarm alarm
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center for the body which is the amydala
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and the uh hippocampus which is
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responsible for memory and where memory
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lives and so as you know the the movie
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is fraught with all of the memory
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experiences and what I really love about
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this movie is it Dives deeper into how
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memories help to create core beliefs
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about self and so you hear her talking
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about you know I'm good enough or I'm
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not good enough and these memories
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ultimately help to fortify those beliefs
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about
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[Music]
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self I'm
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selfish I'm
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kind I'm not good
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enough I'm a good person I need to fit
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in but I want to be myself I'm brave but
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I get scared success is make mistakes
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I'm nice I'm mean I'm a good friend I'm
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a terrible I'm strong I need help
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sometime and that's the way it really
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works and so when you think about your
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overarching thought system or beliefs
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about yourself they are informed by
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memories that you've had and so when you
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think about what we can do to deal with
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memory there's a lot we can do um uh to
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help heal from memory that was encoded
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maladaptively and ultimately not serving
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Us in the way that we have uh beliefs
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about ourselves that may be problematic
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like the not good enough noise or the if
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we're no longer in danger we've had too
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many memories of danger and so the noise
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of I'm not safe I'm not safe I'm not
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safe those core memories really do play
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an important role in how we believe
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about ourselves and I think the movie
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does such a beautiful job talking about
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memories and how they shape um Riley's
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personality and and emotions and
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ultimately you know beliefs about
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herself and then you see that the the
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core memories create these islands of
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Personality like her family Island
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hockey Island friendship Island anyway
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these are Riley's memories and they're
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mostly happy you'll notice not to
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brag but the really important ones are
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over here I don't want to get too
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technical but these are called core
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memories each one came from a super
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important time in Riley's life and each
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core memory Powers a different aspect of
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Riley's personality like hockey Island
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goofball island is my personal favorite
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and these represent key parts of her
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identity and who she is as a person and
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as she matures in Inside Out 2 you see
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her go from family Island being so big
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in in inside out one and then as social
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importance becomes more relevant to her
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in her developmental time of puberty you
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see family Island shrinking and and and
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it's just the detail is is second to
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none when it comes to how they
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illustrate this this span of her life
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and so we we love to see how in this
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movie memories influence how Riley
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reacts to new situations and then how
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anxiety tries to go change her beliefs
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and bring down all of these anxious
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memories
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and see as long as we like what they
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like we have all the friends we
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need control her potential Thoughts with
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the um with the screen of um all the
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potential slides of what could go wrong
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and ultimately it starts to create so
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much anxiety that she's not sleeping and
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she's does she doesn't have any
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confidence in herself and you see it go
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way out of balance which I think is the
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point of the movie and seeing any
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emotion when way out of balance we're
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we're not going to be um our best selves
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and so when we think about practical
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tips from managing emotions we want to
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acknowledge all of the emotions and this
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movie really I think the the main point
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is to recognize that every emotion has a
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purpose it has a job for the mammal
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species that we are we really want to
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lean in and acknowledge those feelings
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we want to recognize that we have them
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the species that we are we're hardwired
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for those affective circuits and we want
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to talk about our emotions with someone
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that we've trust when you're going
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through a hard time again you don't want
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to shut down or isolate this is when you
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want to reach out to people and not be
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alone um when you think about the the
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span of your life if you have positive
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memories and things that were good
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sometimes recalling those happy memories
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helps boost your mood we want to
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recognize that the only thing that's
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certain in life is change and
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understanding that while we go through
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change especially if they're hard
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feeling a mixture of emotions is okay
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and it's normal and judging yourself if
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you're feeling a lot of emotions is not
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um not helpful because when shame
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overrides then we don't heal and we
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don't get through them and so the best
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way to move through painful times is to
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allow the experience of the emotional
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experience to unfold as it needs too and
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um ultimately that helps us to maintain
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more balance and to get through rough
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times uh more expeditiously and so some
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things you can do to maintain emotional
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balance are practicing mindfulness
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meditation uh staying active with
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exercise maintaining social connections
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um trying to find times to be creative
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and ultimately exercising those parts of
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your life that um often times are
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underutilized when it comes to uh the
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more creative side of things and play
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and being silly and laughter and being
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free from constraints that are not about
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being spontaneous we need to cultivate
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opportunities for all of those things we
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need to make sure we set boundaries we
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say no when we mean no and yes when we
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mean yes prioritize our self-care our
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sleep our diets uh all those kinds of
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things and and and downtime to just rest
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are really important and then like I
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said we we really need to allow for a
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balance of all of these things to be our
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best self and to have a foundation of
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emotional resilience and stability uh
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when we're going to be dealing with hard
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things which quite frankly that's pretty
25:42
much inevitable life is sure to meet us
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with difficult challenging experiences
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and so I hope that you're able to
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reflect on your own emotions and your
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own mental health and that if you want
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some encouragement really do watch the
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the movie Inside inside out two if you
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especially if you saw inside out one
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prioritize seeing Inside Out 2 maybe
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even watch inside out one again so that
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you can remember all the the great
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details from it and then um and then
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watch inside out too there's so many
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beautiful lessons about the human
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condition and our emotional experience
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and ultimately how to have more balanced
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mental health so thank you so much for
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tuning in I hope that you love the
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movies as much as I do and um make sure
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that until we meet again you lead with
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love because it'll never steer you
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around
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