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hi everyone I'm Kelly ooro and this is
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adaptable Behavior explained welcome
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everybody thank you for joining us today
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for our show uh this is also part of our
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series a counselor Cafe where I host and
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talk to other counselors about topics
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that plague all of us as humans and
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mental health conditions and hopefully
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validate and Norm Alize these
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experiences and give you some resources
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should you need them today I'm excited
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to be doing part three of our new Mom
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episode and I have with me here rotna
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Gala who is a fantastic EMDR therapist
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that works for infinite healing and
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wellness our company and a new mom and
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brings all sorts of authentic awesome
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information to the table for us as uh
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for new moms and for those of you who
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haven't seen the First episodes of this
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series The Parenting new mom series
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series uh I am a mom I have five kids I
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have a blended family it's colorful and
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my youngest who is my only biological
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child um is 22 so we bring different
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aspects to this this show so if you
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didn't watch Parts one and two please go
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back and do that it'll make a lot more
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sense if you do and today we're going to
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talk about a few things related to after
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you've had the baby and all of the uh
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experiences that we can touch on that
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happened to so many new moms so let's
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talk let's just dive in and talk about
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it so um like the first thing I want to
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talk about is hormonal shifts and the
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mood changes that happen after we have a
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baby so want to kick us off yeah oh my
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anything could have prepared me for that
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right I mean I don't think anything
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could have prepared me for any part of
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becoming a mom but I was just especially
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as a therapist right I think I was
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really surprised by just the major
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hormonal shift that happens right you're
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pumped up with all these hormones during
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pregnancy and then it's just gone right
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and I felt like I didn't even know
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myself wow right early on I was just I
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just didn't even understand who I was
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because I was the way that I was acting
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the way that I was thinking feeling is
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just so unlike anything else that I've
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ever experienced previous you yeah yeah
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um and so it's just yeah emotional
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overwhelm I I don't even have words
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other than I completely unexpected you
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think you had you know do you think you
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had postpartum depression or what do you
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think yeah it was like for you if I if I
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were to self- diagnose and I can I'd
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probably I probably diagnosed myself
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with postpartum anxiety okay what's what
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was that like like what does that mean
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to you so for me I was doing all of the
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things you know I had to keep all the
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balls in the air um I had to make sure
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everything was okay and just right and I
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think I was a little bit
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delusional a lot of it delusional when I
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first came home from the hospital um I
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don't know I'm sure it was a hormonal
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shift probably the drugs because of my
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c-section you know cuz it took a while
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for that to get out of your
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oh absolutely but I literally the day I
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came home from the hospital my parents
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my husband they're spending time with my
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son there's pictures of them from that
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day and I am nowhere in those pictures
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you know why because I was going around
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the house still trying to clean still
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trying yeah 100% just having had surgery
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a couple of days prior right I'm walking
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around I'm like picking stuff up off the
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floor I yeah yeah I don't know what
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other word there is for it but delusion
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but that's just I think it really the
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andos to it's the shs and supposed to
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and honestly we just going through such
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a powerless experience that you're
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trying to gain some control over this
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completely new and foreign and chaotic
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experience of being a mom of a newborn
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baby well for you having people around
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you in in your new home after a surgery
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after becoming a new mom and you know
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and and you know I think we discredit
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our husbands are becoming a new dad as
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well yes and that's an entire other
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paradigm shift in our experience you
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know they they don't know what they're
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doing either and we really do bear the
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brunt of most of the responsibility
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because of our biology because we are
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challenged to feed them and everything
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else you know and it's just it's a lot
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definitely and I think even me being so
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overwhelmed um and like settling in
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figuring all of it out um I had done a
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lot of the work in terms of research and
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preparing I mean my husband was right
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along there with me with a lot of it um
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but I think he really relied on me to
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know these things and when I'm dealing
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with whatever I'm dealing with that was
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an incredibly overwhelming experience
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for him to kind of have to step it up
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and figure stuff out and be in this
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really challenging position of taking
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care of me and our son yeah and
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defaulting to wanting to do it the way
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you want it to be done because you're
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the expert as a counselor and you're the
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mom and you're ultimately a bit more on
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the hook for some of the caretaking
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responsibilities just because of how
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we're wired right so that's it it is
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it's just so so much I can say that when
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I first had my son I was still you know
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again parenting my other three alongside
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and I was really concerned about them
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feeling like they didn't matter now that
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we had this baby together because as I
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mentioned in an episode before you know
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and my older three were from my
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husband's first marriage and they had
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had such a tumultuous start that I
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already carried so much guilt and fear
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and responsibility to try to do all of
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the things right to help mediate what
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they'd already been through and what I
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didn't want is for this other child that
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I bring home to become a source of
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resentment or jealousy or Envy or you
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know be the projected problem because
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it's not their fault you know that I
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bring a baby home that I had and I
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hadn't had them and I was really nervous
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and trying to be really cautious so that
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they didn't feel different or separate
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from and so I had that going on and then
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I also didn't want to put him down and I
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thought can you kiss and hold and hug a
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baby too much is it weird like if I
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kissed him thousands of times in one day
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is that going to be a problem you know
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and I didn't know because that's all I
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wanted to do was stare at him and kiss
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him and hold him you know and I just
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couldn't stop I everyone thinks their
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kid is the most beautiful baby in the
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world but I just I was like I'm pretty
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sure I'm actually the one with the most
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beautiful baby in the world you know I
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was just so madly in love oh my gosh
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yeah isn't it just this overwhelming
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feeling of love that I never I don't
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think it's explainable and not to
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minimize those who haven't had a child
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but um I don't think there's another
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Earthly experience that changes us more
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than having a child I mean literally
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there're a part of you yeah you know I
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learned this last year that the cells
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that are in the baby and the cells that
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are in you while you're in gestation
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they travel back and forth so after
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delivery they're literally still in you
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and you're still in them so when we have
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this innate connection where we're like
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I just know I mean I have that more with
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my younger son where I can feel when
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stuff's going on and I'll I'll call him
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hey what's going on you know I can just
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sense that something's up and um my
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husband will tease and he'll say you
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know it's because you guys never cut the
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cord and you know he teases and he he
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claims and meshman and and I'm just like
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you you know probably a degree of that
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was true but there's also just this
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innate I have to care about my Offspring
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like that's my biological responsibility
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and I am super fortunate that I feel
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like that about all of my kids I think
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some moms who adopt or whatever but I've
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had them since they were so little four
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six and eight that not that I don't um
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value that they had experiences before
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me in fact I know that those experiences
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before me very much shaped who they
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became but I'm like those are my kids
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don't you mess with my kids and I feel
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so protective of them in the same way
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that I do of my biological child so you
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know I think that that responsibility as
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a mother if that's how you're wired and
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how you feel about your kids it just
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sprawls you know it doesn't have any
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boundaries about where they are what
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they're doing I mean we worry we care
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about them so let's talk about a bit of
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a controversial conversation
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breastfeeding all right and so for those
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of you who have really strong views on
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this topic I really understand that
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because as a mother who did choose to
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breastfeed I had a lot of before I
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learned more about what can happen and
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why some people choose not to breastfeed
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or or are not able to breastfeed I
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personally had quite a bit of judgment
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because I think that I had some uh for
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those who didn't choose to um because I
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I've done so much reprocessing with
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people on preverbal trauma and I've had
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clients that are that they're they're
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describing they can smell their mom's
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milk and they don't know why their mom
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won't do it and they and they take it so
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very personally and it feels so primally
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interruptive and I think because of my
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own work with clients over the years and
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how much that experience was necessary
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important I'm just like if you have a
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baby you need to choose to breastfeed
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unless there is a you know a
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gravitational reason that you can't
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because they need that connection with
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you and they're so I mean we can talk a
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whole episode on just breastfeeding
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about what our bodies will do and the
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pathogens our bodies creates to protect
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a child's immune system and all of these
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things and so I'm thinking you know when
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and before I understood more about why
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people may not do it um like you have to
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it's your it's your job like don't have
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a kid if you won't do it and so I had a
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really Fierce opinion about it and I
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chose to breastfeed and I'll tell a
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little bit more about that but but can
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you share with our viewers what your
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breastfeeding experience was like
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because honestly you just touched my
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heart so much when you shared with me
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and and it really helped to shift my
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perspective and so do you do you feel
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comfortable talking about that yeah yeah
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um so you know of course they have you
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tried to start in the hospital and I
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don't know if it's cuz I was a new mom
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um it takes a while for your milk to
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come in which I didn't fully understand
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right oh wow that experience in it of
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itself yeah yeah so you know I'm trying
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to I'm trying to breastfeed him it's not
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really working um and then we got to the
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point where his Billy Rubin levels were
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too high and he had to get the blue
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light therapy and so it's like the
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middle of the night 2 300 a.m. in the
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morning the nurse comes in they're like
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we're taking him to the NICU I was
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devastated right um and so when they're
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in that blue light therapy they try to
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keep them under that light for as long
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as possible and they only take them out
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every 2 hours for 30 minutes at most for
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them to be fed I wasn't able to
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breastfeed at that time I was still
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figuring it out I certainly wasn't
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efficient enough to get him the milk
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that he needed to get it out of his
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system because basically what they do is
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they pump them with milk so that they
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poop out they're Flem yes they're
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flushing it out of his system and so in
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order to make that efficient they just
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bottle feed right we had to make the
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hard decision that at the hospital we
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were going to bottle feed and then keep
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trying for breastfeeding but they use
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these nipp that are just ridiculous you
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flip them over and it's like a faucet
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right and so of course that's what he's
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going to want of course he's going to
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become accustomed to not having to work
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out it do yeah the way he learned that
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eating is effortless right right and so
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you know the time that he was in the
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hospital we I continued to try to pump
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nothing I was getting nothing and we had
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to you know we had to feed him somehow
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so he's getting bottle fed at the
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hospital continue to to try when we were
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back home and it just wasn't happening
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for us he couldn't latch um I worked
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with a lactation consultant that came
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and tried to help us and he started to
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latch but this was like a month in oh my
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gosh and at that point because we hadn't
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gotten him to latch for so long um my
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milk supply had just really taken a hit
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I was like pumping all hours of the day
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he got to a point where he was sleeping
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somewhat solid at night and I was still
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waking up middle of the night he's
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sleeping I'm awake trying to pump and I
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was just miserable and exhausted and
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it's like you know the whole point is
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that you want this connection I mean not
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just that they're getting this you know
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the the perfectness of our breast milk
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but also like the touch and the dopamine
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and the oxytocin and all the things for
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their co-regulation and everything that
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we know as attachment Specialists that
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babies really get from that and you know
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what we get it too yes when we so you
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must have felt so devastated that you're
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like with your breast pum and like
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baby's asleep that made it so much worse
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like being just hooked up to this
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machine you know and it's so mechanical
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and like took everything out of me it
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really did and so how long did you do
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that for before you were just like this
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issh like two months oh for two months
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like up all night baby sleeps through it
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you're not getting that touch that
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reinforcement all those hormones that
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are beautiful that we get from
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breastfeeding yeah I'm so sorry that you
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went through that I would yeah I would
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just keep trying and I was like tracking
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and just every week I would see it
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depleting right my Supply yeah and my
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husband was finally just like
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listen you know how long are you going
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to keep doing this cuz the part too that
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was really hard for me is I would be my
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husband went back to work after a month
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I was home alone with my son he would be
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napping whatever he would be crying and
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I would be hooked up to this pump and
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I'm like do I stop do I go get like do I
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just carry it with me because I had one
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of the portable ones like you know and I
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was saying to my husband you know I feel
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like this is almost keeping me from
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being the mom that I want to be right
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cuz you have this thing you have to do
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in order to just manage the physiology
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of the milk supply right and so I'm like
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I want to be able to not have to think
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twice and just go pick him up right when
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he's when he needs me and at that point
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was he latching some or was it just
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you're basically pumping to bottle he
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was latching some but he was still
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taking a full feed of formula so I'm
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like he's working so hard and really not
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getting what he needs so you'd
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breastfeed and then you'd have to top
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him off yes oh my go and top off meaning
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like a whole meal right gosh and so you
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know I I finally had to make the call
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that for my mental well-being and for me
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to show up and be the kind of that I
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always saw myself being that this was
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something that I had to just you
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know I just had to make the decision
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that it was time to stop you know and
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that he was going to be okay right thank
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you for for for sharing that like I said
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I there are you know there are people
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that say I just am not doing it you know
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I can remember when I was breastfeeding
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and there's generational things too and
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stigma you know so when I was
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breastfeeding my husband was from the
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east coast and we were in Rhode Island
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and we went to visit his grandmother and
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I'm breastfeeding my son and she's just
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like what are you doing I'm like I'm
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breastfeeding she goes with disgust you
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know because for her it meant that's
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poor socioeconomic status and only the
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poor people choose to breastfeed and
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this is isn't that interesting so it was
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just again it was like cognitive
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dissonance and what's true and right for
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a child I mean we are there's like a
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bazillion benefits of breastfeeding for
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our CH for our children and so um so I
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mean I was like shamed in the other
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direction that I had chosen that and and
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also the other piece of you should go
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somewhere and hide because we don't want
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to see that and I never I never adopted
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that thinking I was just like they don't
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like it they can leave because this is
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what I'm meant to do now I'm not just
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sitting there boob out I mean I did
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throw a blanket over me but I think high
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five to all the women that don't give a
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crap and they just do it because you
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know what that's what it really should
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be like we should be able to not be
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shamed at all for feeding our child and
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I had mixed feelings I'm walking through
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the airport and I see they've got like a
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breastfeeding station and I was like do
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we want to continue to reinforce that
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you need to go hide to do this but then
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I thought you know what people have all
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different perspectives on it and some
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people don't feel comfortable and so
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maybe they would opt not to feed their
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child because they're in a public place
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so then I I but I went back and forth
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with the idea of even having to go into
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this sequestered space to breastfeed you
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know because it shouldn't be something
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that that Society thinks we should do we
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should do it wherever the heck you need
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to do it cuz who the heck cares this is
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like a beautiful natural experience so
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babies need to eat yeah yeah so yeah I
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just think there's so much that they
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don't warn us about with breastfeeding I
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mean you remember when your milk came in
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in the first place I was home and I was
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like you know I was a pretty small
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chested person and this milk comes in
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and I'm just like what happened with
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these cantaloupes on my and they hurt so
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bad you know and my husband was like
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whoa that's awesome I'm like don't you
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dare touch because it hurts so bad and
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I'm in the shower trying to like get
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some of it out because it was so painful
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and you know trying to get the latching
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and everything it was just it was so
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hard can I just say though the whole
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latching thing I wish that I knew more
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about how important that was cuz
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literally when I had the lactation
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consultant come over and she got him to
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latch I went and took a shower and I
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literally had to come running out of the
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shower and put on the things that like
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catch your milk because once he latched
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it was just like body nose oh here we go
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I mean I wish that kept up for me but
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you know I was just like amazed at how
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instantaneous that can be when you get
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that well and I think it's so important
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to ask for help because you know the the
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fact that it has to be such a wider
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mouth than you would think you know you
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think it's just the nipple or whatever
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and and you don't know what you don't
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know and so it hurts so freaking bad I
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mean I remember I called it when you
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first would get latched on I called it
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the razor blood razor razor blade uh
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phase because it was like I would just
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grip and hold on to something until that
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shifted because it hurts so stinking bad
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and I I feel like that happened for me
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for at least two months before it
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stopped being excruciatingly painful you
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know and then it's never mind the
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infections that happen to so many women
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because it's always moist it's like
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there's a yeast infection so now you can
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only use this boob and like all these
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things they don't talk about that are
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just really painful so I have to say
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that I am really grateful that I stuck
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it out it was hard he only um breastfed
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for 6 months I really did have the goal
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for a year but he was so bored with me
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and and I I had a hard time getting away
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from the activity of three brothers and
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all he wanted to do was watch them so
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I'd have him latch and he's like you
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know he'd stop I mean he just wouldn't
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stay interested and so even though I
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really wanted him to stay he just
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wouldn't he didn't stay he was just like
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this is too boring I have stuff to do
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and honestly that is ink kind with who
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he is today I mean if it's boring he's
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out you know he's just like not
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interested and so I was disappointed for
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that I felt like I had failed
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I felt like I had let myself in him down
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that I was doing something wrong and of
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course that chicken egg thing right so
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the breast milk you know he's
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disinterested and so he doesn't eat as
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much and so then the milk decreases and
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all of that stuff so it and I introduced
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Foods you know rice cereal back then is
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what the the thing was you know do that
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first now I know there's all these other
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ways to feed and we've learned so much
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but I just think that it's so important
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that we talk about it that we ask for
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help that we that we normalize all the
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different things and then you know if
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you are someone who wants to breastfeed
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and you're feeling like you can't
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because you know your own attachment
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trauma you know I've met people who they
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can't do it because it overwhelms their
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nervous system so much because it's so
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intimate and they can't handle the
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intimacy you know that is stuff we can
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reprocess with the MDR therapy so that
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you can move through that so that it's
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that you can still choose because
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otherwise you're dealing with the shame
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and the feeling like you've let the baby
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down and all those other things and
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there's just a there's just a block
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because of your own nervous system so
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that's something we can work through so
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so one more thing that we've got to
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touch on before we wrap this series up
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on being a new mom is the impact to our
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our bodies and also our relationships so
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what do you have to say about about
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first you know the impact to your body
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oh man I just remember looking in the
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and I was just like this is this is not
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well what is going on here right um and
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what was really weird to me that was
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that there were like parts of my body
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that my husband had seen and how they
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had invol evolved that I hadn't even
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seen and then when I finally could like
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you know delivery and everything right
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right and um so yeah it's just it's such
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a journey right as far as and when you
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relationship change right not just with
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your partner but even with yourself and
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person um and finding your new self new
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identity yeah yeah and trying to find
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Grace for yourself for the gift that
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your body has given you know you and
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that you've produced a whole entire
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human and and that there's there's a
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pretty significant cost to the wear and
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tear on the vessel that is the mom body
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and I think that we have so many social
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expectations around what that's supposed
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to look like I can remember my stomach
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had gone down and I was like okay this
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is recoverable like I feel that it's not
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the worst thing in the world and I
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couldn't still get my pants done because
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my hips hadn't come back in like what's
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going on calling friends oh it takes
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like a whole year before your hips go
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back in from the expansion I'm like geez
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this just never ends you know what I did
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what I just bought new pants that was
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probably smart we were so poor I did not
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even have Mone to buy new pants but I
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like I like just did it cuz even that I
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haven't even really wanted to buy
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clothes or deal with any of that because
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my body is so different and then finally
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it's just where we are new pants okay
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fine new pants new size it's all okay
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right I appreciate you saying that um
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and and what about the relationship you
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know we talked about our husbands are
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new at this too they're a new dad uh for
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some of us you know in my case he had
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already had three but he's a different
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person as he matures and evolves and
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grows and so he's a different dad with
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number four than he was with the first
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three I'm sure and and so what was it
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like for you as a new in a new Dynamic
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of your coupleship yeah I think just
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figuring out the new dance right there's
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so much more to do there's so much more
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to think about right there were maybe so
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many things that we were used to doing
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just you know for each other and we had
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F found our dance cuz we were married
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for about a year almost two years before
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we had our son um and so you know it's
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just everything is new again you have to
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figure it all out all over and they're
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growing pains to that the communication
24:04
is so critical I think and I know that
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my husband and I we're we're hitting
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about 25 years now and I know our
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communication was just so much worse
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back then and there was so much I still
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was uh afraid to say or would avoid
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saying because I didn't want to disrupt
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or I wanted to please him and I wanted
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to make sure he was okay I was so
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worried about his okayness all of the
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time and when you think about the
24:29
sacrifice of of all the things that
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you're going through as a mom uh I don't
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think I gave myself permission to say
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things like you know I'm not in the mood
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I have been breastfeeding all day long I
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am exhausted I am dealing with raising
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all these other kids I don't have
24:46
capacity to to make sure I take care of
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you with intimacy or sex and so I
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probably put my own needs aside at times
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during those early you know months
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because I because you're supposed to you
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know a good wife does this and so I
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think that's a huge piece and then also
25:04
for me it was also the being vulnerable
25:07
and intimate and I looked so different
25:10
and the noise in my head about he
25:12
doesn't really want to be having sex
25:14
with me like can we please turn the
25:15
lights off like he can see I can see
25:17
this like this is not what it used to
25:19
look like you know and that took a while
25:21
for me to feel comfortable again and and
25:23
then to to get whatever my body was
25:26
going to be back after baby's to get
25:28
that so that I could return to feeling
25:30
confident so know that was a big deal
25:32
for me yeah I think a a piece of that
25:34
too is just that feeling of being so
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out you know oh my gosh the groping I'm
25:41
like you have got to leave my boobs
25:42
alone they are Factory only like this is
25:44
a factory now we're not even here for
25:47
the like all business all the time you
25:49
know and that's disappointing for them
25:51
or even the simple stuff of like I I
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remember one day early on having to just
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hold my son pretty much the entire day
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because that's just what he needed that
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day and um once my husband got home I'm
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kind of like here and nobody touch me
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please for like a good while until I'm
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ready that's totally in any capacity
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totally relatable totally relatable so
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yeah I I think that it's something that
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we really don't want to minimize we want
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to make sure that we honor that you get
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support that you find friends to talk to
26:23
about this because it is such a unique
26:26
experience and often times we feel too
26:28
much shame to to air it out and to be
26:30
authentic or transparent about these
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topics because of all the shs and both
26:33
do so so on that I thank you so much for
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being part of this series as a new mom
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um your son is so lucky to have such a
26:41
rad mom in his quarter and I just want
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to thank you all for tuning into this
26:47
series I know it's such an important
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topic I know we've missed so many things
26:50
about being a new mom like I said and
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stay tuned for future episodes where
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we'll dig in deeper to some of these
26:56
topics but thank you again for being
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present with us we hope that this helped
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you and if you have questions or things
27:03
you want to share in um we'd love to
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hear from you in the comment section
27:06
below and we've got a few resources for
27:09
you if you do need some support and some
27:11
help also in the comments below and so I
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just thank you for tuning in and have
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Grace for yourself if you're a new mama
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and make sure that you lead with love
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because it'll never steer you