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Hello and welcome to Broad Street
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Hockey. I am Ryan Gilbert. He is Jacob
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Russell. Flyers have been linked to so
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many different centers, Jacob, and
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new day Dylan Larkin reportedly
0:13
requested trade from the Detroit Red
0:15
Wings and every team was like, oh
0:18
this team should go get Dylan Larkin.
0:19
And us as Flyers fans, Flyers podcasters
0:22
here, of course, the Flyers have to go
0:24
get Dylan Larkin, right?
0:26
>> This is what we were waiting for. This
0:28
is what has been prophesied for so long.
0:30
This is why you keep all of the 15
0:33
wingers that you have currently on the
0:34
books, the 15 NHL wingers that are just
0:36
scattered throughout the organization
0:37
right now.
0:39
You got to go get a guy like this. He
0:43
scored 30 goals in 1 2 3 4 5 seasons in
0:47
a row. I don't even remember the last
0:50
time when's the last time a Flyer the
0:51
Flyers have had a guy that's done that.
0:54
I don't even know. I can't even like you
0:56
know
0:57
>> Wayne Wayne Simmonds maybe? Wayne
0:59
Simmonds?
0:59
>> Wayne Simmonds I think, but again,
1:01
that's not the Dylan Larkin 30 goals.
1:03
That's the Wayne Simmonds 30 goals. And
1:05
I love Wayne Simmonds more than any
1:07
other person maybe on the planet, but
1:10
you know, we got to understand that he
1:11
was getting them from a lot different a
1:13
lot different spots.
1:15
Larkin is a legitimate 1C. He's not like
1:18
the Nathan MacKinnon 1C. He's not the
1:20
Connor McDavid 1C, but he is a 1C. He's
1:22
the captain of the Red Wings. He's been
1:24
the captain of the Red Wings for a very
1:25
long time and
1:28
I don't know. He's just one of those
1:29
guys that you you think
1:31
fits perfectly for what the Flyers need.
1:34
You know, he's maybe a little older than
1:38
you would particularly want for a guy
1:40
that you
1:41
hopefully want to start a contention
1:43
window with, like start a 5-year window
1:45
of contention. Maybe you want a guy
1:46
who's a little bit younger than you
1:48
know, the the 29-year-old
1:50
Larkin. He's going to be 30 on July 30th
1:54
of this year. So, you know, he's going
1:56
to start next season as a 30-year-old.
1:58
Um and yeah, I besides that, I really
2:01
think that's the only thing that would
2:03
give you pause to even trying to make a
2:05
move like this because it just makes too
2:07
much sense for where the Flyers are
2:08
right now.
2:10
>> Yeah, he'll be 30 in July, so 30 when
2:12
the next season starts. He is
2:15
under contract through 2031 at 8.7
2:18
million, which is going to look like a
2:20
great contract pretty pretty starting
2:22
pretty soon. So, he'd be 30 34 at the
2:25
end of that contract there, which is is
2:27
perfectly fine. And like I understand
2:29
it's not the 25-year-old Robert Thomas
2:31
or the 23-year-old Matty Beniers, but
2:35
Robert Robert Thomas can be argued, but
2:36
Dylan Larkin like yeah, he is that one
2:39
C. Looking at him since the 2021 season,
2:42
he has more points than Jack Eichel.
2:44
He's played a few more games, but he has
2:46
more points than Jack Eichel. He has um
2:49
the 21st most points among centers in
2:51
that span, 354 points in 375 games.
2:56
Yeah, and he wants out. He he said after
2:58
the season that you know, it would have
3:00
been nice to get a morale boost from the
3:02
front office and Steve Yzerman clapped
3:04
back saying it would have been nice to
3:06
get a morale boost from our leaders. So,
3:08
uh frosty relationship as Elliot
3:10
Friedman reported there.
3:12
And yeah, Dylan Larkin he he he like you
3:15
said, he is the one C. He's not like the
3:17
okay, let's wait for McDavid to
3:18
hopefully become available. Even Auston
3:20
Matthews like maybe the Leafs will trade
3:22
him at some point. Dylan Larkin is
3:25
requesting out. Like he is making it
3:27
known. It would be shocking if he's not
3:29
traded at all. And the Flyers, you know,
3:32
in the same conference but not the same
3:34
division there. And the Red Wings are a
3:37
team that is still trying to win now.
3:39
So, you could trade him them roster
3:41
players like an Owen Tippett, like a
3:42
Rasmus Ristolainen maybe. That would
3:45
make a lot of sense. Uh Noah Cates too.
3:47
Jack Nesbitt could be a piece that
3:49
apparently Steve Yzerman liked quite a
3:51
bit according to the quote I saw from
3:53
the Steve Dangle podcast, last year at
3:55
the draft, they were looking at taking
3:57
him 13th. Red Wings don't have a
3:59
first-round pick.
4:01
But, the big thing like you said that
4:03
might hold up a lot of people is the
4:04
age. And I think you need some of these
4:07
players that are coming out of their
4:09
prime as you have other players entering
4:11
theirs. Like, you can't just have all
4:13
your players entering their primes at
4:15
the same time because then you you have
4:17
inconsistency, and that has the
4:19
potential to go down. Like, it's good to
4:20
have good veterans in the room, good
4:23
veterans on the ice that you can count
4:25
on for 30 goals, playing top-line
4:27
center, winning 52-55% of his face-offs,
4:31
killing penalties if he has to, helping
4:33
the power play hopefully
4:35
uh 14, 13, 14, and 16 power play goals
4:38
the past the past 4 years there. So,
4:40
Larkin really is that do-it-all 1C that
4:44
the Flyers have been waiting for.
4:46
>> Yeah, and if you look back to the end of
4:47
the season, you remember the Red Wings
4:50
being one of the teams that the Flyers
4:52
were fighting with for that final
4:54
playoff spot. Uh them and the Islanders,
4:57
Capitals were in it for a little bit
4:58
there. Feels like a decade ago when that
5:00
happened, but
5:02
um yeah, that was the situation. And in
5:05
the last five games um that Larkin
5:07
played last year in the
5:09
lead-up to, you know, what Altman ended
5:12
up being the the end of Detroit's
5:13
season, he had nine points, four goals,
5:15
nine points in five games. And the team
5:17
just uh they just couldn't get over the
5:19
hump. And and that kind of uh epitomizes
5:21
what his time in Detroit has been,
5:24
especially after such a successful
5:26
lineage of, you know, Datsyuk,
5:27
Zetterberg, Lidstrom, stretch back to,
5:30
you know,
5:31
the Russian Five and and things like
5:33
that, right?
5:34
>> [clears throat]
5:34
>> And um
5:36
it just hasn't gone right for Larkin. I
5:39
don't really think it's any fault of his
5:41
own. It's just one of those things where
5:43
he hasn't been necessarily, like we
5:45
said, the McDavid-type transcendent
5:47
talent that is going to completely
5:49
change a franchise's fortune, but he's
5:52
been really good. Like, he's been
5:53
consistently a 70-point guy if he's
5:56
healthy when, you know, he he is
5:58
normally pretty healthy as well, right?
6:00
He's a durable guy. He he plays a game
6:02
that is very, you know, it it's it's a
6:05
game that'll work anywhere. It'll work
6:06
with a lot of different, you know,
6:08
linemates as well. And like you said, he
6:10
can do a lot of different things. Uh it
6:12
seems like
6:13
maybe even more so than like a Robert
6:15
Thomas who was really heavy on the
6:18
assists, like we talked about um earlier
6:21
on the BSH podcast earlier this week.
6:23
Um a guy who is looking to set up other
6:26
players primarily. The Flyers have a lot
6:29
of those guys, and Larkin is one of
6:31
those players who will look to score. He
6:33
is more in the mold of like an Owen
6:35
Tippett who is going to look at the net
6:38
first, and he's going to try and take on
6:40
defenders and make plays happen. So,
6:42
you know, I'm looking back at the April
6:45
9th game where he had a a hat trick
6:47
against the Flyers in his a 6-3 in a 6-3
6:49
win, and then the Red Wings proceeded to
6:52
lose the next three games, and then beat
6:54
the Flyers again, and then lose
6:57
in their next two games after that.
6:59
>> Yeah. Yeah, Larkin had an even-strength
7:01
goal, power-play goal, short-handed goal
7:03
in that one, the game-winning goal.
7:04
>> it all. He really can do it all. It is
7:06
impressive, and it's kind of gone under
7:07
the radar.
7:08
>> Yeah, you brought it up. He averages
7:10
three shots on goal per game. Robert
7:11
Thomas is what? One and a half? Like,
7:13
the Flyers really need that shoot-first
7:15
center-type guy in Larkin.
7:18
Uh yeah, the more we talk about it, the
7:19
more the more I I I like it here. Like,
7:21
the the the timing thing is the one
7:23
thing. Um and and we'll see what comes
7:26
out about what the price is, what what
7:28
the Red Wings could be looking for for
7:30
him, if there could be other pieces
7:32
involved. I think that's a different
7:33
video, different conversation down the
7:35
road, but you have to think from the
7:38
Flyers, the Red Wings, I I their ask is
7:41
going to start at Marchenko or Michkov
7:43
and and you say no to that. You you You
7:45
say no to that. That has to be their
7:46
ask. And then maybe
7:49
would you trade Foerster in a deal for
7:51
Dylan Larkin? Like would or would you do
7:52
everything you possibly could to make it
7:54
like a a Tippett, Nesbitt, Cates and a
7:57
first? Like something like that to avoid
8:00
trading Foerster.
8:02
>> Um I I am one of the biggest Tyson
8:05
Foerster fans in the BSH universe, I
8:08
would think. And he is going to be an RF
8:11
RFA at the end of next season.
8:13
Um no, at the end of 2027-28. Sorry. Um
8:17
so it's kind of up to how much do you
8:20
think that Tyson Foerster is going to
8:21
get paid?
8:22
There's a big variance there. If he has
8:24
a really good year next year, which he
8:26
could have. There's going to be good
8:27
players like playing with him and
8:28
surrounding him. Like he's going to have
8:30
better linemates.
8:32
It could happen. He's going to be
8:33
healthy. And you know, there's there's a
8:35
chance that he gets a big payday.
8:38
But at the same time, he is one of those
8:40
guys I think is pretty rare in the way
8:41
that his two-way game is so advanced for
8:43
such a young age. Um and it has been for
8:46
basically his entire career.
8:49
But I'm also not jumping to trade
8:50
Tippett for him, either. You know, I I
8:53
think that if you're the Red Wings at
8:54
this point,
8:56
trading Larkin has to be the end of
8:59
whatever this iteration of the team is.
9:02
Um it's almost going to be
9:05
awkward to have Yzerman being the one to
9:07
do it, right? Because it it it seems
9:09
like he's put them in this position with
9:12
the sorts of moves he made, the Ben
9:13
Chiarots the world to Justin Holls,
9:15
relying on Andrew Copp and and JT
9:18
Compher, right? Like it just it's not
9:20
good enough. It was never good enough
9:22
and and now Larkin's going to leave and
9:25
you feel like you would want some
9:26
futures built around like the Lucas
9:29
Raymond sort of timeline. Like guys like
9:31
Marco Kasper. Um I I think we talked
9:33
about them also in in maybe some Risto
9:36
some Risto talks early on in the season.
9:39
They're not really appealing, right?
9:41
There's not really a young core there
9:43
for the Red Wings just yet that has been
9:45
fully realized. Shout out to Filip
9:47
Zadina.
9:50
And I think that at this point, don't
9:52
you think the Red Wings just need to get
9:55
whatever picks they can they can muster,
9:58
whatever young assets they can muster,
9:59
rather than getting Tippett and just
10:01
having them score
10:02
25 on a team that's not got any sort of
10:06
direction outside of Mo Seider?
10:09
>> Probably. And and speaking of Filip
10:11
Zadina, I meant to bring up before, like
10:13
Larkin wasn't supposed to be this Connor
10:14
McDavid, Nathan MacKinnon type guy. He
10:16
was taken 15th overall. That's a a
10:18
mid-first-round pick. Since then, they
10:20
took Michael Rasmussen ninth overall,
10:22
Zadina sixth overall, Mo Seider sixth
10:24
overall, turning out to be pretty good.
10:26
Lucas Raymond fourth overall, Edvinsson
10:28
sixth, Kasper eighth. Like they've had a
10:30
lot of top 10 picks.
10:31
>> Sandin Pellikka is good. They've got
10:33
good defensive talent, but they also
10:35
have Ben Chiarot.
10:37
Um so, that's the issue.
10:41
And and the forwards just
10:44
>> Oh, they did they didn't build around
10:45
Larkin. Like Larkin's going to take the
10:47
fall for this. He was the captain.
10:49
It's kind of like almost like a Giroux
10:50
type thing if
10:51
>> It does kind of remind me of Giroux
10:53
though.
10:53
>> if Giroux's ending ending ended sour
10:56
rather than being traded after his uh
10:58
thousandth game there. Cuz yeah, they
11:00
it's just the guys they picked after
11:01
him. I went through those names. None of
11:03
them have been good enough. And you
11:05
mentioned the the Andrew Copp, J.T.
11:07
Compher, you know, contracts. They're
11:09
under contract combined at 10.7 million
11:11
through the end of next year. Compher
11:13
one more year after that. So, looking at
11:16
a Red Wings perspective from like a
11:19
bird's-eye view is like, yes, they
11:21
should rebuild. But will Yzerman
11:24
be able to will Yzerman be given the
11:27
leash to rebuild by the Red Wings? Or
11:29
will Yzerman be like, all right, I we're
11:31
trading Larkin, but I'm not trying to
11:33
get 23 22-year-olds. Let me get someone
11:36
like a 27-year-old Tippett or a
11:38
24-year-old Foerster to to be the guy.
11:42
Well, I I think I think Noah Cates could
11:44
be a valuable piece in this trade as
11:46
well. $4 million.
11:48
He's kind of redundant if you end up
11:50
getting you get Dylan Larkin 1C, Dvorak
11:53
2C, maybe he moves Zegras to wing and
11:55
keep Cates as 3C. But if that's a piece
11:58
that the Red Wings want back with
12:00
Tippett or with Risto instead of giving
12:03
Foerster up, I I think you have to do
12:04
it. And I think that's what the Red
12:06
Wings are going to want. They're going
12:08
to want a roster player to help now, a
12:10
depth guy, and a future.
12:13
>> Yeah, I mean, I'll even look at somebody
12:15
like Jack Berglund. He just feels like a
12:16
Red Wings kind of guy.
12:18
He just feels like a Red Wing. I just I
12:20
was scrolling through the the the
12:21
PuckPedia and I just was like, I don't
12:23
know, Jack Berglund just seems like a
12:24
guy who'd play on the Red Wings back in
12:25
the day. Um
12:27
no real basis to that whatsoever, but
12:30
the fact is for the Red Wings, they're
12:32
in this sort of period where I I don't
12:34
even know what you can do to help get
12:36
you out of this because they're not bad.
12:39
They're not horrible. Like I said, I
12:40
like uh Sandin Pellikka. I like
12:42
Edvinsson. I like Mo Seider.
12:45
They've got some good players there and
12:47
and and like Sebastian Cossa, if he ends
12:50
up being a good goalie, I mean, there's
12:53
there's something there, right? They
12:54
they don't have
12:56
like a completely empty cupboard, but
12:58
how far can you get with Tippett and
13:00
Foer- like let's even say Foerster. How
13:02
far do you get really with Foerster and
13:04
Raymond and
13:06
without Larkin? It just I don't know if
13:08
the high-end talent is really there. And
13:12
they're not necessarily, especially with
13:13
how the lottery seems to be playing out.
13:15
It's not like a guarantee that you even
13:17
if you stunk, you would even get the
13:19
sort of player that you need. I mean,
13:21
Alex DeBrincat I've always loved, but
13:23
again, he's another kind of tertiary
13:26
scorer guy ideally. He's not going to be
13:28
the guy who who is the best
13:30
player on the team. So,
13:32
you know, you look up and down their
13:33
forward lineup and it's just how do you
13:36
mold that
13:38
into
13:40
a playoff contender without Dylan Larkin
13:42
in the mix, right? Like it's just going
13:44
to be really tough regardless and I
13:45
think, you know,
13:47
if Yzerman is the one to do it, right?
13:50
If Yzerman is the one to make the trade,
13:52
he will try, as you said, to to get some
13:54
guys in there who will turn turn around
13:56
the ship if if they can. Um but if it's
14:00
somebody else making the deal, if
14:02
Yzerman does go,
14:04
um
14:05
which kind of seems unfathomable right
14:07
now, but they could happen. It's going
14:09
really sour for him. If that is what
14:11
happens, I feel like it's going to be
14:12
all futures, right, at that point. You
14:14
just got to you got to kind of push the
14:16
the timeline back 2 years and see if you
14:18
can get something.
14:19
>> It It feels like with this coming out
14:21
though, like like if the Red Wings were
14:23
going to fire Steve Yzerman, they were
14:24
going to fire him before this game.
14:26
>> Yeah. Yeah, it feels like it can't
14:28
happen now, but
14:29
>> but cuz Friedman reached out for
14:30
comment, no one wanted to comment on
14:32
either side, no party, no no agent, no
14:33
player, nothing there.
14:36
Um so,
14:37
and all honestly, we don't have to worry
14:38
about the Red Wings' future. Like if
14:40
Steve Yzerman wants to [Β __Β ] it up, he
14:41
can [Β __Β ] it up. Go ahead. Like Like we
14:43
got to worry about what we got to we got
14:44
to get what over on Steve Yzerman.
14:46
That's what we want Danny Briere to do
14:48
here. Um the initial kind of offer I
14:50
threw out on social media was Tippett,
14:53
Kates, Ristolainen, and a first. And you
14:55
know how I realized that was that was a
14:57
pretty good offer to start with? I had
14:58
people telling me it was too much and I
15:00
had people telling me it wasn't not
15:01
enough not enough. So, that's the
15:03
perfect middle ground there for if they
15:06
want roster pieces exclusively, plus a
15:10
first-round pick that they don't have
15:12
their own. They traded a first and a
15:14
second for Justin Faulk at the deadline.
15:17
Like that's something where you trade
15:19
Risto, you can hopefully sign Carlson,
15:21
or add in another piece, have Bonk step
15:24
up, Your a check step up. Tippett and
15:26
Kates combined, you get Larkin to
15:28
replace them. You have the winger depth
15:30
we talk about. And the first is whatever
15:33
at this point like we talked about that
15:34
too. So, I feel like if it's a roster
15:36
player deal, is that something in the
15:39
range of what you would consider as
15:40
well?
15:41
>> Uh yeah, that makes sense to me. I mean,
15:43
you you got Risto who I think the Red
15:46
Wings were probably interested in, but
15:48
at the same time
15:50
he is just kind of going to be a rental
15:52
you would assume. I don't I don't know
15:53
if the Red Wings I mean maybe the Red
15:54
they've done it for worse defensemen.
15:57
So, maybe the Red Wings would resign
15:58
Ristolainen to a long-term deal, but it
16:00
seems like he would be more of a
16:02
short-term short-term guy. Kates like
16:04
you said for a team whose centers if
16:08
Larkin was to go would consist of
16:09
Compher and Copp and maybe Rasmussen and
16:13
uh
16:14
Dominik Shine. Like it's getting rough,
16:17
right? Like that would be good for them
16:19
to get a guy like Noah Kates,
16:21
um put him in the lineup, have that
16:23
two-way play
16:24
and you can you can put a bunch of
16:27
talented players around Noah Kates and
16:28
he'll keep up. We've seen that in the
16:30
past, right? We've seen that um
16:32
and you know, Tippett gives them another
16:34
high-end score. You hopefully replace um
16:36
the goal tally like for like um with
16:39
with Larkin if you you get lucky like
16:41
you know, I I I think that's what you'd
16:43
be hoping for if you were Islesman and
16:44
you made the deal. Um but yeah, that is
16:48
a really reasonable offer I think. I
16:50
think it does well enough for both. I
16:52
think I think it would delude
16:55
Detroit enough to
16:57
like think that they got something
16:59
really
17:01
that that could help turn around their
17:02
immediate future. Um even though I don't
17:04
think it would be nearly enough. Like
17:05
I'm just looking at the roster and I
17:07
just I don't see it, man. I just don't
17:09
see it at all. But it doesn't matter. It
17:11
doesn't matter realistically. It's just
17:13
whatever they take. It it to me
17:15
personally that seems like almost too
17:18
ambitious. Like you're you're thinking
17:20
too much current day as opposed to, you
17:24
know, futures. I think you got to get a
17:25
prospect. Like even if it's a Luchentko
17:27
or something. Um, I feel like that would
17:30
like he could play now. You could put
17:31
Luchentko in the lineup. I don't think
17:33
anyone like he's expecting I I think we
17:35
expect him to probably get in the lineup
17:36
next year. I mean, if he doesn't, he's
17:38
going to be playing in the AHL and come
17:40
up, right? But um,
17:42
he could play in the NHL right now. I
17:44
mean, the only critics the the critique
17:47
that you have of him is that he plays
17:49
too much like a fourth-liner who just
17:51
wants to play defense and skate around
17:53
really fast and forechecks, right? So,
17:55
like at the very worst, you could just
17:57
throw him on there and hope he develops
17:58
and that makes more sense to me than
18:00
just like we want Owen Tippett who is as
18:02
good as he'll ever be right now. We want
18:04
Noah Cates who is as good as he'll ever
18:06
be right now. Um, and try to give this
18:09
thing another kick at the can. I just it
18:11
doesn't really make sense to me, but
18:12
that sounds like it's equivalent value.
18:14
>> Yeah, right? Like it sounds like it's
18:16
enough on the
18:18
on the roster the current roster to, you
18:22
know, maybe make it make sense.
18:24
>> Yeah, let the Red Wings take three or
18:26
four of those guys or like Luchentko,
18:28
throw him throw throw Nesbitt in there.
18:32
Jack Berglund, like you said, someone
18:33
like that. Like maybe a defenseman, give
18:36
him give him Andre or something as well
18:37
if if they're like
18:39
like take take your pick out of the
18:40
>> Swedish defensemen. They just love it.
18:43
>> And
18:44
like you mentioned Jackson Cates, like
18:45
that could be someone the Flyers look at
18:47
to get in return as well if the Red
18:49
Wings want kind of a a bigger package
18:52
because they do have John Gibson. They
18:54
traded for him. They have Cam Talbot. I
18:56
think he's a free agent. They have Troy
18:57
Augustine as well. Another guy in the
19:00
AHL. Um, so you could be bigger pieces
19:03
here. And the one, you know, top-line
19:07
center trade that has happened in recent
19:09
history that everyone kind of looks at
19:10
is the Jack Eichel one to Vegas. And you
19:13
know, there were some injury risk there
19:14
with with his neck, but they traded
19:16
Eichel and a third round pick for a
19:19
25-year-old Alex Tuch, a 20-year-old
19:22
Peyton Krebs,
19:23
a second round pick, and a first round
19:25
pick. So, you can kind of squint and see
19:27
like either Foerster or Tippett plus
19:31
Luchento or Nesbitt plus a first-round
19:33
pick for Larkin being a comparable to
19:36
that.
19:37
>> Yeah, I know I think
19:39
people don't really remember how much of
19:42
an injury risk Eichel was at that point
19:43
in his career. Like it really was in
19:46
doubt when he left
19:48
Buffalo whether or not he was really
19:50
going to be able to play at the same
19:51
level.
19:52
Obviously, that was all proven to be
19:54
completely wrong and he was totally
19:56
fine.
19:57
But
19:59
they still got a pretty decent haul for
20:00
him. I liked Alex Tuch a lot at that
20:02
time, right? Like and I think a guy like
20:04
Tippett
20:05
he's definitely more proven than Tuch at
20:07
this point I think is an offensive
20:09
force, but I think Tuch had that big
20:10
power forward sort of archetype that
20:13
that the Sabres really liked.
20:15
Krebs was a decent prospect and he's
20:17
been an okay NHLer. I don't have
20:20
anything negative necessarily say about
20:21
Peyton Krebs, but yeah. And the picks
20:23
are the picks. I don't even remember who
20:24
they took with them. Do you have that
20:26
up?
20:27
>> I can get that back up. Yeah, I can I
20:29
can try to get that back up.
20:31
>> But like
20:33
the you know, it's it's one of those
20:35
things where
20:37
you're definitely not going to have to
20:38
pay as much as that. You like I I don't
20:40
think the Jack Eichel ceiling is present
20:45
in Dylan Larkin even if he left Detroit.
20:48
>> The picks were Noah Ostlund and Riley
20:51
Hade, Hade, whatever.
20:53
>> Hade, yeah, Hade.
20:54
Second round pick there, yeah.
20:56
I I was going to I I I knew it was
20:58
Ostlund, but I felt way too obscure to
21:00
just guess on that, you know?
21:03
Yeah, so like they
21:05
maybe it pans out in the future. Who
21:06
knows?
21:07
But
21:09
the package in general, I I think you
21:11
can probably say that you can scale that
21:14
back.
21:15
Um if you're talking Larkin just because
21:17
of the age factor, even though, you
21:19
know, Eichel
21:21
you know, maybe that balances out with
21:22
the injury the injury concerns from
21:24
Eichel, but maybe it's more similar than
21:26
than we think, but
21:28
at the same time
21:30
Larkin
21:32
never scored over 80 points. It's not
21:34
like he's a super superstar. He's just
21:36
the exact sort of guy that would fit the
21:38
Flyers needs at this certain time.
21:41
Who isn't a superstar? Like obviously,
21:43
yes, your problems would be solved if
21:45
you got Connor McDavid. Yes, the team
21:47
would be good if they got Connor
21:48
McDavid. News flash, if they got Connor
21:50
McDavid, they'd be really good. But if
21:51
you're talking about just getting a more
21:53
realistic name, Dylan Larkin's one of
21:55
the first guys you pull out of a hat,
21:56
you know, I think. Um it's just one of
21:59
those guys who you can trust to be a
22:02
consistent player rather than
22:07
trying to rely on three different three
22:10
Cs
22:11
and playing one of them out the lineup
22:13
and riding the hot hand like you did
22:14
with Dvorak right at times. That's
22:16
really what they did was ride the hot
22:17
hand and
22:19
that's not necessarily sustainable. So,
22:21
a guy like Larkin, it makes everyone,
22:23
you know, it makes the matchups better
22:25
for everybody. It it makes the power
22:27
play better. It makes short-handed play
22:28
better. It it's it's the sort of thing
22:31
that just, you know,
22:34
it makes everyone better around the
22:35
team.
22:36
>> Yeah, Larkin is one of those guys that
22:37
we would mention and be like, "Okay,
22:38
don't get a a top tier one C, but just
22:40
get like a solid one C, like a like a
22:42
Dylan Larkin, like a Sebastian Aho, like
22:44
a Roope Hintz." Like he he is that guy.
22:46
And like, yeah, we we see the downside.
22:48
Never cracked 80 points. You know, he's
22:51
missed missed eight games last year, 14
22:53
games uh 3 years ago, 30 years old,
22:56
doesn't fit the timeline. So, like
22:58
there's going to be people against it
22:59
and and we get that and it depends on
23:01
the price and everything, but like it
23:03
does seem like Larkin really was the guy
23:05
is the guy the Flyers are waiting for to
23:08
make a move on. Um it might be too soon,
23:09
might be a year or two or two soon, but
23:11
these opportunities don't come up uh
23:13
up very often.
23:15
>> Yeah, and it may be too soon, but the
23:17
team did go to the second round. I mean
23:21
I think if there was ever a time to jump
23:24
jump the queue on a thing like this,
23:26
it's for Dylan Larkin. I think this is
23:28
the sort of thing that kind of throws
23:30
your plans into into a loop, right? I
23:33
Dylan Larkin was signed through
23:35
right like
23:37
2031.
23:39
>> 2031, yeah.
23:40
>> So it wasn't necessarily nobody was
23:42
expecting Dylan Larkin to just be on the
23:44
market anytime soon unless, you know,
23:47
this specific thing happened and
23:50
it it is one of those things that seems
23:52
tailor-made for the Flyers. He's got the
23:54
no move, but I don't think there would
23:55
be any sort of reservation there if the
23:58
Flyers were to be the team that came up
24:00
with the offer.
24:01
Um I don't think he'd say no.
24:04
Um I never I don't get that feeling. I
24:05
mean Detroit, Philly
24:07
um
24:08
>> He's friendly He's friendly with Zegras.
24:10
>> Zegras.
24:10
>> They golfed together at some thing a few
24:12
years ago.
24:13
>> a bunch of American dudes on the Flyers
24:15
now, probably gets along with them and
24:19
yeah, it just seems like one of those
24:21
things that he can be the leader and
24:24
really take charge of that
24:27
sort of demographic of players who are
24:29
all kind of buddy-buddy with one
24:31
another, but they're all the same age.
24:32
They're all like It is kind of like a
24:34
frat house sometimes in there. And maybe
24:36
it's good to have a 30-year-old guy in
24:39
Larkin who's still really hungry for any
24:41
sort of playoff success like a Konecny,
24:43
like a Sanheim. They're all kind of
24:45
like-minded in that way where they
24:46
haven't really tasted it. Um so they're
24:49
still going to be hungry. And like you
24:51
said, the 8.7 million's going to start
24:53
to look better and better as the cap
24:54
continues to just skyrocket year over
24:57
year.
24:58
Um
24:59
and
25:01
maybe he is a bit older, but I think
25:03
it's only by 2 years. It's not like
25:05
you're trading for a guy who's 35. I
25:07
think there's a good five
25:09
at least five years left of good Dylan
25:11
Larkin hockey in him. So,
25:14
yeah, I just it's one of those things
25:16
that I
25:18
you can't be mad at the opportunity
25:22
coming up, especially after the season
25:24
that the Flyers had where everything
25:25
kind of broke right at the end there and
25:29
they had they created a moment that
25:32
you know, will be remembered for a long
25:33
time and I think it's good to capitalize
25:35
on that, get people talking again, and
25:37
then you make a big splash like this and
25:38
it's kind of like we're riding a wave in
25:40
the next year and
25:42
everyone gets excited, right? Like it
25:44
keeps that momentum going and obviously
25:46
it's not why you make trades, but it is,
25:49
you know, one of those things where the
25:51
guys even on the roster like, "Okay,
25:52
let's let's get rolling now. Let's get
25:55
going. We got Larkin. We got a guy who
25:57
is like a proven NHL star and we can try
26:02
and push for, you know,
26:04
even more, right? Like
26:06
those guys probably they see the same
26:08
things we do. They're probably thinking,
26:09
"We didn't have a power play and we made
26:11
the second round of the playoffs. We
26:13
beat the Penguins. We beat Crosby at
26:16
their barn.
26:18
And, you know, like
26:20
if you had a guy like Larkin, it's hard
26:22
to imagine that the locker room isn't
26:24
just going to immediately get fired up
26:26
and then these guys aren't going to come
26:27
in firing to start the year.
26:30
Obviously
26:30
>> Get Get Larkin and Carlson fixes the
26:32
power play, makes this team formidable
26:34
in the Metro.
26:35
>> I think then you you can make an
26:37
argument that that team would be the
26:39
favorite at that point, right? Like
26:40
>> Yeah. I mean, the Hurricanes aren't
26:42
looking great tonight, but
26:44
>> I I don't even know. I couldn't even
26:46
tell you, Gilbs. I couldn't even tell
26:48
you what was going on.
26:50
>> All right. Well, yeah, people are
26:51
talking about the Flyers again. We're
26:52
talking about the Flyers again here.
26:54
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26:55
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