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Steve and Quigs talk about the Philadelphia Flyers 2026 NHL Draft selections, especially Maksim Sokolovskii and Brek Liske. The guys also discuss Dan Vladar and Tyson Foerster re-signing, Claude Giroux potentially coming back, and more.
NOTE: This was recorded before Leo Carlsson signed an offer sheet with the Flyers!
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Fly,
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[music]
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>> friends. Philadelphia countrymen, lend
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me your ears. It's hot as balls outside.
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My balls have disintegrated from the
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heat. I don't know why I went this
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route, but hey, welcome back to Fly
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Berbally presented by Fandal. Sorry,
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Fandal, but sorry, not sorry, as we like
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to say [music] on Fly Berbally, in the
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words of the not so great Cole Beasley.
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I wonder if Cole Beasley's dropped
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another album. Oh, wait, I don't care.
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Hey, I'm Steve Jo. This is Ryan Quigley
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Quigs. What's going on, my friend? How
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you doing on this oven of a day outside?
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>> It is an in fact an oven of a day. I'm I
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was dripping with sweat just walking
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around. Uh, it is the day before the
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Fourth of July, which Do you know what
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the Fourth of July is, Steve?
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>> What's the Fourth of July?
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>> It's Jesus's birthday. Not a lot of
1:01
people know that.
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>> Is that right? I wasn't aware.
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>> Famously, Jesus Christ was born on the
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4th of July and that's when America
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started was the
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>> start branch on Mormonism when I wasn't
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looking.
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>> Uh, this is I learned this on um uh
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Newsmax.
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>> Oh. Oh, good. I get all my news from uh
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>> there. So Jesus was born 250 years ago.
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>> Uh tomorrow.
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>> Oh,
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>> which if you're listening, I don't know
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when this is going to be published.
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Perhaps today if you're
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>> It will be today. Yeah. Because I got
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>> I am off from the day job today. So this
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is getting I'm publishing as soon as
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we're done today.
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>> Yeah. And I'm not going anywhere. I'm
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not going anywhere. I got no car. So I
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got no reason to go anywhere because
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it's just disgusting outside. I I
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stopped and I got some Lissio's rolls
1:48
yesterday. Shout out to Lissios, one of
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the great Philadelphia bakeries. And uh
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I got some lunch meat. So
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>> listen, I ain't go I'm going nowhere.
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And
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>> you're going nowhere.
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>> Yeah, exactly. Exactly what I was going
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for. Thank you. Yes, absolutely. Macho
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Man Randy Bone Saw
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>> Bone Saw is ready. One of the great
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cameos.
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>> But uh you do anything for the Fourth,
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they canceled the Fourth of July parade.
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They're supposed to have a huge concert,
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but like it's going to be hot as hell.
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It's going to be so hot and apparently
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there's going to be thunderstorms in the
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evening which is like just makes it even
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imagine like you know it raining and it
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still being this hot and then you go out
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and you walk around in the heat that's
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even doubly humid. Christ.
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>> Yeah.
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>> I don't even want to think about it. But
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I am doing something tomorrow. I'm
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having friends over for a potluck on my
2:39
apartment's roof deck. Um, I asked my
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apartment. I was like, "Hey, are we am I
2:44
allowed to like bring a bunch of friends
2:45
over for the roof deck or do I have to
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like rent it out?" And they were like,
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"Yeah, you can do that. Just don't take
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over the roof deck." And I'm like, "Oh,
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okay. We're definitely taking over the
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roof deck." So,
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>> beautiful.
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>> I'll be there with Bells on.
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>> I'm going to be making some homemade
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tacos.
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Love my Apparently my tacos are really
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good. So,
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>> what kind of tacos are you making?
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>> Oh, just you know, homemade. Very
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simple. Like, you know,
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>> what protein? What protein?
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>> Ground beef.
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>> Ground beef. Okay.
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>> Ground beef.
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>> So you're doing some gringo tacos.
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>> Gringo. Very much gringo tacos. So
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ground beef. Um throw in some uh finely
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shredded uh mixed cheese from Trader
3:26
Joe's. So
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>> I love the Trader Joe's mix. It's a
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great one.
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>> The like Mexican thing. And then I'm
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going to just put a little bit of pico
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de gallo in there. Um but what I like to
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do is I don't like Yeah, soft tacos are
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fine. I'm gonna put them in the thing.
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I'm gonna put them in the tortilla and
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then I'm gonna put a little bit of
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butter on the pan and I'm gonna like let
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it sear and harden and then I'm going to
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flip it and then because then it's
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crunchy.
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>> Okay. Okay. So,
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>> I like a crunchy tortilla thing. So,
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>> I'll do that in the air fryer sometimes.
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Like I'll I'll I'll heat it up because
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it is better to have a cooked tortilla.
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Uh, yes, you can debate on if you want
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it soft or crunchy at that point, but to
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have it cooked, I think, is almost
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non-negotiable for me. Don't get me
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wrong,
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>> I will certainly have a few bevies and
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maybe some other stuff and enjoy a raw
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tortilla at any time of day. I don't
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care, but
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>> a cooked tortilla when you're having
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like a hot taco is the way to go.
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>> Yeah. Like my preference is always going
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to be cooked. So, there's that little
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bit of a crunch when you bite into it.
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But I mean, I don't discriminate any
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taco. If it's
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>> if it's a crunchy
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>> tortilla or if it's saw, I don't care. I
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mean,
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>> I'll eat them all. Give Give them all to
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me. Yeah. [laughter]
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>> Well, beautiful. I love that.
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>> What better way to celebrate the birth
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of America than having some Mexican
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cuisine.
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>> Yeah. Hop on your bald eagle, as Craig
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would say, and Yeah. You know, go off
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and get some tacos.
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>> Yeah. I mean, it is it is what America
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is known for, stealing things from other
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cultures and calling it their own. So,
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that's what I'm gonna do tomorrow.
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>> Absolutely. Yeah. I'm I might just see
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if there's any bars open [laughter] and
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like maybe just like hop over to one of
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those for a couple hours. A lot of them
5:06
are closed and good for them because the
5:07
staff deserves the day off. But, uh, you
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know, I might do that or I might do
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nothing at all. Nothing at all. Nothing
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at all. Who is to say? But I will enjoy
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it if I do because I've had a very busy
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month. So leading up to last week, I was
5:21
like so busy and now it's like, "Oh, I
5:23
I'm home again." Yeah. You know, just
5:26
like between like writing, editing,
5:28
rehearsing, and then the draft prep and
5:30
everything. And now we're finally at the
5:32
calm time of the year. And hey, if
5:35
you've been waiting for the hockey talk,
5:36
this is Ferbole. You know how it goes.
5:38
Five minutes in, that's when we get to
5:39
it. Maybe 10. Who's to who's to say?
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>> Maybe 20. What's the longest we can go?
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How
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>> don't we kick the can down the road?
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>> Don't ch I could kick the can all day.
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I'm
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>> Tell them about yet tell them about
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Yellow Bicycle Theater, Steve.
5:52
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, we did we did have
5:55
our Motel Party sketch show. Uh first
5:57
one we've done uh in a couple months.
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And uh went very very well. Ryan Quigley
6:02
did come out, which was awesome. Uh very
6:05
great to see you. And uh we had a great
6:07
great crowd. We were just shy of a
6:10
sellout. And uh just really really good
6:14
energy. Very appreciative to everybody
6:16
who came out there. I was in like four
6:19
of them. I edited like I don't know four
6:22
videos or something and uh I wrote two.
6:25
So I I felt very good about how
6:27
everything went.
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>> Hell yeah. [Β __Β ] yeah. That's great.
6:30
>> Yeah. So that was your your first time
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seeing live sketch comedy. How did you
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enjoy yourself?
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>> I I liked it a lot. I thought it was a
6:39
great time. What I liked is how it, you
6:41
know, if one sketch, like sketch wasn't
6:45
quite your thing, the next one is is
6:47
good could be your thing. Like it's, you
6:50
know, it was cool how it changed and it
6:52
was a new story every five minutes. I
6:54
mean, that's just the nature of sketch
6:55
comedy, but it was fun. It was like a
6:57
rotating thing, cast of characters. I
6:59
mean, I've just I've never like I don't
7:01
watch a lot of SNL or anything like
7:03
that. That's never really been my thing.
7:04
But seeing sketch comedy live I think is
7:07
I I like that way more than watching it
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on TV.
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>> There's a different energy to it. And
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yeah, like as you said, that different
7:14
style is what I think is very cool about
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it too because like we I mean we had so
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many different people write for that
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show and everybody's got a unique style
7:24
about them. Like I and I wrote two that
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were completely different for this one.
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Like I wrote a very high energy one and
7:30
then I wrote a very high concept like
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you know weird documentary style one. So
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right you know it's cool to try
7:38
different things out and experiment but
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just seeing you know people have
7:41
different flavors. Like Em and I write a
7:43
lot of stuff together but we have very
7:45
distinctive feels between like what her
7:47
kind of sketch is versus my kind of
7:49
sketch. So um it is very cool seeing the
7:52
different styles. Like Greg writes a
7:54
completely different style, Matt writes
7:56
a different style. Lara writes a
7:58
different style. We had all and those
8:00
were all writers on the show. We had
8:01
just so many different writers and uh it
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it's just very cool being part of a
8:06
group putting up very different unique
8:09
stuff and really displaying our our
8:11
personalities and our sense of humor.
8:13
But thank you for coming out, man. I I
8:14
it was awesome to see you there and you
8:16
know just always cool to do that thing
8:18
because I we've done some of those shows
8:19
in front of like maybe a couple people,
8:21
right? like which is
8:23
>> it's still fun, but when you can get a
8:25
good crowd that's really into it, it is
8:28
so much better and we had a fantastic
8:30
crowd that night.
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>> Yeah, you feed off the crowd. Yeah. No,
8:33
it's awesome. And we had a great time.
8:35
It was It was awesome. So, I'm excited
8:36
for the next one.
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>> I I will let you all know when the next
8:39
one is because I'm I'm full in now. I
8:42
When I was in grad school, I was just
8:43
kind of like dipping my toes right in
8:45
the occasional thing, but I'm I'm full
8:47
in now. So, because why would I like
8:49
relaxing? I did beat Tears of the
8:52
Kingdom, so that going [laughter] for
8:53
me.
8:53
>> There you go. There you go.
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>> I have been playing Tears of the Kingdom
8:57
since like December because I wanted to,
8:59
you know, concentrate on finishing grad
9:01
school and stuff, but uh before the
9:03
draft party on Friday, I was like, I
9:06
gotta finish it. I'm finishing it today.
9:07
And then I spent like two, three hours
9:10
finishing it up, but I did it. So,
9:12
hooray. I think I'm playing a Star Wars
9:14
game next, but uh we we'll see what
9:16
happens.
9:16
>> I'm doing God of War Ragnarok now. I've
9:19
been playing it for months because I
9:21
only play video games once every like
9:23
three weeks.
9:25
>> So, I've been at a snail's pace, but I'm
9:29
I made a lot of progress last night and
9:31
I'm hoping to have it like I feel like I
9:33
I'm getting the sense that I'm getting
9:35
close to the end of the game. So, I I
9:37
kind of want to like
9:37
>> You likely are if you're getting the
9:39
sense because I had a similar feeling. I
9:41
was like, I feel like I'm close to the
9:42
end and I I was in fact that close to
9:44
the end. So,
9:45
>> very cool. And I could do a whole gaming
9:47
podcast. It's like don't get me started
9:48
because I could do we did extend another
9:51
five minutes so we had that going for
9:52
us. But uh real quick before we do get
9:54
into the formal hockey, thank you so
9:55
much everybody who came out to the draft
9:57
party. Met a couple awesome listeners.
9:59
Wanted to specifically shout out
10:01
Christopher and Neil who I met very cool
10:03
longtime flight guys. And it's just
10:06
awesome to meet people listen to the
10:08
shows. And listen, I love everybody who
10:11
knows me through PHLY. It's very cool to
10:14
have people know me through that. But
10:16
when I meet the Fle paniacs, that's when
10:18
I get really excited. OG's
10:20
>> the OG's, man. And I met a couple OGs
10:22
and that was fantastic. Loved it. I had
10:25
a great time. Yards did a fantastic job.
10:28
I drank so many Philly standards. But
10:31
because I was sweating in front of those
10:32
big PHL Y lights, I'm not sure any of
10:35
them stayed in my system, but really
10:37
good. The food was fantastic. If you've
10:39
never had the Smashburger at Yards, it
10:41
is really, really good. Awesome smash
10:44
burger. Awesome wings. So, we had a
10:46
great time. Uh, very good podcast with
10:48
uh Bill and Kelly. Uh, I did eat like
10:51
fries throughout the entire thing, but
10:53
they got me sitting there. I'm gonna eat
10:54
the fries. Damn it. [laughter]
10:56
>> But it was awesome. And, uh, we
10:59
definitely got to do more stuff at yards
11:01
if we could do I would love to try and
11:02
get a viewing party there sometime
11:04
because that is a great room over there.
11:05
>> We could that could happen. I say we
11:08
like I'm part of PHY. That could happen.
11:10
>> You've been on once?
11:11
>> I've been on once. I'm not a PHY
11:13
employee. I'm not either. I'm a
11:15
freelancer, baby.
11:16
>> Well, that's true. But [laughter] yeah,
11:19
that is something that could happen
11:20
because I mean, it's a huge space. They
11:22
they wouldn't be shitty about it. It'
11:24
probably be pretty easy to do. So,
11:26
>> yeah. So, I I'm g I'm going to just
11:28
whisper in everybody's ears until I can
11:30
make it happen.
11:31
>> You know what would be interesting? If
11:32
the Flyers first game of the season is
11:34
on the road, could be a good place for a
11:37
watch party.
11:38
>> It would be good. I mean, I'm also down
11:40
to just like I kind of just want to do
11:42
we've kind of talked about it before
11:43
about doing like an unofficial watch
11:45
party where we just kind of go somewhere
11:47
and just take it over with people. Yeah.
11:49
And yeah, I'm totally down to do that
11:51
some some point, too. Let's just go to
11:52
let's take over Watkins sometime. Let's
11:54
just do it.
11:54
>> Just just Oh, don't you you didn't even
11:57
have to convince me to go to Watkins.
11:59
>> I love Watkins. I'm If Watkins opened on
12:01
the fourth, I think that's where I'm
12:02
going. But yeah, thanks to everybody who
12:03
came out. We had a fantastic time and I
12:06
know not everybody was thrilled with
12:09
that first round pick for the Flyers,
12:11
but let's unpack it. Let's talk about it
12:14
right now. So, your Philadelphia Flyers
12:16
in the first round of the drafts, they
12:19
they traded back. They had picked 21.
12:21
They traded back and we're like, okay,
12:23
there was a lot of talk about BL or
12:25
maybe, you know, there were a lot of
12:26
mobile defenseman, maybe a little bit
12:28
more offensive defenseman. We're like,
12:30
maybe they get him. But there was one
12:32
name that kept bouncing around and we
12:35
were a little scared they were going to
12:36
go that way and oh boy did they end up
12:40
going that way. They went with Maxim
12:43
Solowski,
12:45
a big big boy that
12:49
you know I've kind of been all over the
12:52
place with the opinions on this pick. My
12:55
initial feel was this is a mistake. they
12:59
got a huge immobile guy and this is just
13:02
like they're playing hockey like it's
13:05
back in the day, right? But since then,
13:07
I've heard some stuff from Charlie. I've
13:09
heard some stuff from the Flyers. I've
13:10
watched some highlights and uh we've
13:12
also seen him in development camp. So,
13:15
there's been some good stuff with
13:18
Sokowski since then, but it's still a
13:22
pretty risky pick. He is huge. What is
13:24
he 67 and
13:26
>> 68? 68.
13:28
>> Jesus Christ. He's huge. And the big
13:32
thing is not only is he huge,
13:34
>> he's very mean. Like I'm sure he's a
13:37
nice guy, but like on the ice, he's a
13:39
son of a [Β __Β ] He is angry as hell. And
13:44
it does feel very much like a 90s Flyers
13:47
kind of player right there. But at the
13:49
same time,
13:50
>> we have seen size kind of make a
13:52
comeback in the NHL in recent years. And
13:55
while we've come to like wristan and see
13:57
him truly be hard to play against,
14:00
wristan ain't mean. Wristtoion is not a
14:02
guy who's going to play dirty. He's not
14:04
a guy who's going to like wreck you and
14:07
make you regret every decision you've
14:09
ever made, specifically getting into
14:11
hockey.
14:13
>> Solowski is that kind of guy. Mr. Soo
14:15
and Lime over here is that Big Mac. A
14:18
lot of good nicknames coming out of this
14:20
[laughter] guy right here. So, we got
14:21
that going for him. But this is a mean
14:24
mean man.
14:26
>> Yeah. Uh so officially 6'8 240 lbs
14:31
according to elite prospects which is
14:34
that already makes him like one of the
14:36
heavier players in the NHL which I love.
14:39
Um so clearly
14:43
uh you know Keith Jones was
14:47
soaking for Solowski. [laughter]
14:52
He was soaking Herokalovski. [laughter]
14:56
>> He could wait to get his hands on Maxim
15:00
Solowski. Um, so and he got his he got
15:04
his guy. He got him. He got the big
15:05
>> like a cartoon wolf when he saw that guy
15:08
out there like the big tongue out like
15:11
>> he he's he he reminded me it just
15:13
reminds me of like the there's this um
15:15
meme of like the guy hiding behind a
15:17
tree in a yellow suit and he's just like
15:18
rubbing his hands together like
15:20
>> that's yeah that's what he reminds me
15:22
that's what the whole thing reminded me
15:23
of when he was still there at 27 after
15:26
they traded back. It was just like oh
15:28
fate is telling me it's time to get him.
15:30
Um, [laughter] but he was soaking. But
15:33
listen, I just
15:34
>> soaking.
15:35
>> I I gotta say, we got to get that. We
15:38
got to make that a thing. Soaking for
15:40
Zokalowski.
15:41
>> Yeah, I just say it like the mask.
15:43
>> Soaking.
15:44
>> Yeah. Um, you just got soaked whenever
15:48
he gets hit or whenever he hits
15:49
somebody.
15:50
>> Oh my god.
15:52
>> But um, yeah. No, like listen, a lot of
15:55
people have strong opinions about this
15:57
pick and many of those strong opinions
16:00
are negative. I'm gonna be honest, I
16:03
don't care. Like, [laughter]
16:06
I'll be honest. At first, when I was
16:08
watching the draft and they said, you
16:10
know, from the London Knights, I was
16:12
like, "All right, so they got Solowski."
16:13
I was for a moment I was disappointed
16:16
because I was hoping like many other
16:20
people I was hoping that they were going
16:21
to get a player with a little bit higher
16:23
upside. Like if they had gotten Ryan
16:25
Lynn I would have been like okay all
16:26
right all right I see what you're doing.
16:28
Um they ended up going with Solowski and
16:33
it
16:35
everyone was just expecting it. Everyone
16:37
knew we've seen this movie before. It's
16:39
like I remember everyone was like, "Oh,
16:41
they got another Sam Moran." And it's
16:43
like, "Not really. This is a very
16:45
different player from Sam Moran because
16:46
this dude can actually skate." And I'm
16:49
gonna be honest, like, you know, the
16:52
days after the draft, I was thinking
16:55
things through and I was just thinking,
16:57
you know what? Like,
16:59
>> sure, let's see. Like, this is a bad
17:01
draft class anyway. I'm not gonna lose
17:03
sleep over the Flyers getting someone
17:05
who
17:06
>> may or may not make the NHL one day in a
17:08
horrible draft class. Like, may maybe
17:10
horrible is a strong word, but I'm I'm
17:12
not getting overly upset about it. Not
17:14
at all. Um, but I'll say this, Steve.
17:17
>> This [Β __Β ] kid
17:18
>> in Dev Camp, he's he's raising my
17:21
eyebrows a little bit and I'm kind of
17:23
like, "Oh, oh, okay." Because, you know,
17:25
he's
17:26
>> Oh, yeah. Watching these videos of him
17:29
skating
17:30
has me soaking
17:33
[laughter]
17:35
>> a little bit.
17:37
>> Yeah,
17:38
>> it does.
17:38
>> You're at half m over here over uh
17:41
>> I'm just saying like I'm you know
17:43
there's a little bit
17:44
>> saw that Big Mac and YOU'RE LIKE OH BABY
17:46
LET'S
17:46
>> THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF there's a little
17:47
bit of pre-oak you know so I just that's
17:51
all I'm saying.
17:52
>> Can we can we publish this one? I don't
17:53
even know if we can.
17:54
>> I didn't say anything wrong.
17:56
>> It's true. That's true. You didn't
17:57
>> I didn't say any bad words.
17:59
>> Yeah, that's true. You did not actually
18:00
say this. Actually, I'm going to put
18:02
this as okay for children on YouTube and
18:04
go from there. [laughter] But I think
18:06
the thing is people saw
18:08
>> Yeah. Well, I was just going to say this
18:09
podcast is brought to you by FanDuel.
18:11
Okay, continue, Steve.
18:14
>> Fantastic. Um, [laughter]
18:17
but looking I think a lot of people
18:18
looked at his offensive numbers and they
18:20
were like, Jesus Christ. because he had
18:22
eight points in 44 games for the London
18:25
Knights, two goals, six assists. But I
18:28
think what I came to realizationwise is
18:32
like while his offensive ceiling clearly
18:34
is not there, this is not a guy you
18:36
drafted for his offense. This is a guy
18:38
you drafted purely for his defense and
18:42
for his just physicality. is a guy you
18:44
drafted to wreck guys, to ruin their
18:47
lives, to make them say, "Why did I ever
18:50
think putting on skates and playing ice
18:51
hockey professionally was a good idea?"
18:54
And he seems to check those boxes from
18:56
everything we've seen. And he looked
18:58
good in death camp. You know, he's not
18:59
anything in the offensive zone, but the
19:02
defensive game, his his skill, like
19:05
that's the other thing is he seems to
19:06
have a good brain for the defensive
19:08
aspects. So, you know, knowing where to
19:10
go, unlike like David Urich, I still
19:13
have very high hopes for David Urech.
19:15
But Yurichek's not a guy who really
19:18
seems to have good sense when it comes
19:20
to the defensive aspect of the game. His
19:22
offensive skills are very good. He's a a
19:25
guy who we're looking at if the Flyers,
19:27
One of the things we'll talk about in
19:28
the show today is the quest to improve
19:30
the power play next season. And one of
19:33
the best options in house is Yurichek.
19:35
So, if Yurichek can make that work,
19:37
cool. But as far as being an actual
19:39
defenseman goes, it ain't really there
19:41
right now. That's something the Flyers
19:42
are going to have to work on like they
19:43
did with Jamie Dale. But with Soo and
19:46
Lime over here, this dude like he can
19:50
play defense already. Uh, you know, I'm
19:52
looking at his elite prospects
19:53
description with a shockingly deep
19:56
skating stance, four-way mobility, and
19:58
open ice speed. Solowski has about as
20:01
large a defensive range as possible.
20:02
Plus, he fully embraces the physical
20:04
side of the game, leveraging his frame
20:06
and mobility constantly. He hunts down
20:09
opponents to slam them to the ice, set
20:11
picks, and line them up for crushing
20:12
hits. His skating allows him to quickly
20:15
change directions and adjust to ensure
20:17
the opponent walks straight into his
20:19
shoulder. Reverse hits, heavy cross
20:22
checks, subtle pick plays, and locking
20:24
up opponents on retrievals. He has it
20:26
all. So, if you are looking for a big
20:28
mean defenseman who's going to lay guys
20:30
out, this is your guy. It would be one
20:33
thing if he was big and mean and dished
20:35
out big hits in junior hockey and was
20:38
bad at skating. It's another thing when
20:40
you're doing that and you're really good
20:42
at skating and like it's not like, you
20:44
know, a lot I've heard a lot of people
20:46
saying, "Oh, for a guy his size, he's a
20:48
good skater." No, he's just a good
20:50
skater for any size. Like he he's an
20:53
above average skater regardless of
20:55
height, weight, whatever. It's really
20:57
weird. Like you don't see that a lot,
20:59
especially for a guy that big. Um, but
21:03
to me that's what gives me a little bit
21:06
of excite like now seeing it seeing him
21:08
doing it at dev camp. That's what gives
21:11
me a little bit more confidence in him
21:14
is you know what is is he going to end
21:16
up being a 40point defenseman or you
21:21
know like will he ever play on a second
21:23
power play unit? No. No he will not.
21:26
That is not going to happen. But I mean,
21:29
I think there is really something to be
21:31
said about a good shutdown defenseman.
21:35
Um, and if he turns into that, that's
21:38
amazing. Listen, I don't need a
21:40
defenseman to dish out a ton of points.
21:43
I really don't. But I do need a a guy
21:46
his size to shut down the other team
21:49
from creating offense. And because he's
21:51
such a good skater and because he has
21:52
such a huge range, I think that really
21:56
gives him such a, you know, I think that
21:58
lowers his floor a lot. Um, people are
22:01
saying he has a low floor because the
22:03
lack of offense. I look at it like,
22:05
okay, well already he's very good
22:07
defensively. Um, which shouldn't come as
22:09
a shock, but like, you know, he
22:11
continues to hone in on that um and and
22:15
kind of perfect it. He I could see him
22:18
being, you know, a really really good
22:20
second pair uh defensive guy who you
22:24
pair with a good more offensive guy and
22:27
it working pretty well. So, I don't
22:29
know. I'm excited. Like, I'm excited
22:30
now. And I'm When I say excited, I don't
22:33
mean I don't mean like, "Oh my god, I
22:36
can't wait for this guy. He's gonna make
22:37
the team this year." Like, nothing like
22:39
that. I'm excited to see what he turns
22:41
into four years from now.
22:44
>> Well, and you need defensive players.
22:46
You know, frankly, we we do overlook the
22:48
defensive aspect of being a defenseman
22:51
very often because it's not exciting.
22:53
Like, as far as just watching the game
22:55
and seeing stats, it's not exciting. It
22:58
is exciting from a an old school
23:00
Philadelphia Flyers standpoint to see a
23:03
guy who can just absolutely destroy
23:05
people. And this is very much what you
23:07
were looking for in Risto. This is very
23:09
much what if the Flyers had traded for
23:11
Darnell Nurse, which the San Jose Sharks
23:13
eventually did, that's the kind of
23:15
player you'd be getting. You're getting
23:16
a big physical defenseman. You're not
23:18
getting those guys like seeing Risto in
23:21
the power play actively distresses me.
23:22
If Risto was just a good second, first
23:24
pair guy who just clears the crease and
23:27
stuff, that's all I need him to be. I
23:29
don't need him to be a guy who
23:32
absolutely like can rip the puck from
23:34
the point and everything. Get other guys
23:36
for that. You can get a Shane Gostas
23:38
spare to sit back on the third pair,
23:41
play sparingly, and then just crush it
23:42
on the power play. Like, you can find
23:44
those guys out there. You can't find
23:47
gigantic, humongous cave trolls who will
23:52
absolutely just destroy people and clear
23:54
that crease and play really, really good
23:56
defense. So, especially if you trade it
23:59
back, if they had drafted this guy at
24:00
21, that's one thing. But the guys who
24:03
went just before him, you know, there
24:06
were some good names. I'd have to look
24:07
him up because it frankly once the draft
24:09
is done the names fly out of my head.
24:11
The names were barely in there to start
24:13
with but once the draft is done they fly
24:15
out of my head. But a lot of the
24:17
potential center options the guys who
24:19
would be a little bit more dynamic had
24:20
gone before the Flyers could even get
24:23
there. So once it really reached that
24:25
point and they traded back, it's like
24:27
getting him a 27 is not bad. Like if you
24:30
drafted him a 21, okay, what are you
24:32
doing? But 27 like I'm fine with it.
24:35
Especially when you got extra draft
24:37
assets by trading back.
24:39
>> Yeah. Yeah. And you know, like to me,
24:41
like I just I feel like some people are
24:44
going into this thinking like, well, I
24:46
need if he's going to play in the NHL,
24:47
he needs to, you know, put up points.
24:50
And that's not to me that's not
24:52
necessarily that important if you're
24:55
really really good at playing defense.
24:57
Like one of my favorite players to watch
25:00
specifically when I was covering the
25:02
Minnesota Wild was Jonas Broaddin. I
25:06
loved Yonas Broaddin because he was he's
25:09
such a good skater and he's so good
25:12
defensively. I think he's one of the
25:13
more underrated players in the NHL. I
25:15
think Jonas Broaddin is awesome. Um
25:18
obviously he's like I I don't think he's
25:21
a very different player from um Maxim
25:24
Solowski. like Maximus Solowski is
25:27
punishing. He's mean. He's uh he wants
25:30
to hurt you. Um
25:33
Yonas Broaddin is not like that at all,
25:36
but I have fun watching Yonas Broaddin
25:39
play defense. And I feel like I'm going
25:41
to have that same feeling watching Maxim
25:43
Solowski play defense as well. two
25:46
completely different styles, but I I
25:48
like I'm excited to watch him play
25:50
defense as he gets better at it, as he
25:53
improves and as he gets used to um uh
25:57
kind of, you know, just as he develops.
25:59
Um it's going to be very different when
26:01
he gets to the NHL. It's going to be
26:03
bigger guys, but I mean, there's not
26:04
many guys bigger than him. And he the
26:07
crazy thing is he's already 240 pounds.
26:09
He's going to put on more weight.
26:11
>> Crazy. So, like I'm excited about it.
26:14
He's coming to a great city for putting
26:16
on weight. I can show him the ropes in
26:17
that regard. Hey bud, let me show you
26:19
where to get some great uh roast pork
26:21
sandwiches. Let's go. Yeah,
26:23
>> we got we got him. We got to get him uh
26:25
get him involved in the Church of Del
26:27
Rosis.
26:28
>> Oh, there we go. I love Del Rosies. I
26:30
want to get a Del Rosis right now. Oh
26:32
man, why you making me hungry Quigs? Uh
26:34
yeah, I think especially seeing Ilia uh
26:36
Morose go at 20 to the Sabres really
26:40
helped the Flyers make this decision to
26:41
move back because Morose was a guy they
26:43
had been talked about in connection with
26:45
a lot. 63 center. Uh pretty much
26:48
everybody else we had really thought
26:49
about was pretty much off the board. Uh
26:51
Maddox Dejane had been talked about a
26:53
lot before that point. He went at 16.
26:56
I'd heard Alexander Command's name
26:58
thrown around. He went at 12 to the
27:00
freaking Devils. I hate that they have a
27:02
smart guy in charge now. It's
27:03
disgusting.
27:04
>> Yeah.
27:05
>> Yeah.
27:05
>> Yeah.
27:07
>> And then my favorite name of the draft
27:09
went right before Maxim Solowski and
27:11
that would be Glab.
27:13
>> Glab.
27:14
>> Glab. I don't even know. I'm not even
27:16
going to try to pronounce his last name,
27:17
but it's just I love that there's a guy
27:18
who went by Gleb. So, yeah. I mean, the
27:21
rest of the draft, uh, Breck Breck
27:24
Liskey, the Breki.
27:26
>> Yeah. Breck Liskey went in the second
27:28
round and the elite prospects write up
27:31
on him says, "Name a skill. Lisky
27:33
probably has it. He's aware aware and
27:36
controlled on retrievalss, even
27:37
absorbing contact to make plays.
27:39
Defensively, he's steady and persistent
27:41
pushing pushing, rushing outside as he
27:44
skates across the stop. He sticks with
27:46
opponents and always gives himself a
27:48
chance to get a stop. There's hardly any
27:49
idling in his game. So, this seems like
27:51
a guy they really were lacking in the
27:54
defensive pool and they went ahead and
27:56
they really prioritized defense in this
27:58
draft. And I I think that was a good
27:59
move. Lisky seems like more of an
28:01
all-around guy. Like
28:03
>> maybe more in like the Oliver Bon kind
28:05
of role. Travis Sanheim, somebody who
28:07
can kind of do it all. Hopefully a
28:09
future second pair guy. I do love that
28:12
he grew up a Flyers fan and there's like
28:14
little baby pictures of him as like a
28:15
Flyers fan. This guy was a hardcore
28:17
Flyers fan and now gets to be a Flyers
28:20
prospect, which is so cool.
28:22
>> Yeah. And it's cool because he's it's
28:24
not like he's he's not a small guy. He's
28:27
6'2, 190 pounds. Um he is, you know, not
28:33
old for the Strive class. He's he's a
28:34
January kid. But um you know, the one
28:38
thing that I've heard people talking
28:39
about that makes me excited about Brecky
28:42
is just the fact that like you know, if
28:44
you look at his regular season numbers,
28:46
they're not impressive. It's only seven
28:48
goals, 24 points in 52 games, which like
28:51
for a defenseman, like that half point a
28:53
game is like that's fine. It's pretty
28:56
good. Um but in the playoffs, he was
28:59
point per game pretty much. And in the
29:02
playoffs,
29:04
he got a lot more usage because of I
29:08
believe it was I know Landon DuPont
29:10
who's like he's like pretty much he's
29:13
already the consensus number one overall
29:14
pick next year.
29:16
>> Um he I I don't know if he was hurt or
29:18
something.
29:19
>> Landon DuPont, did you say
29:21
>> that's like the most
29:22
>> That is such a like southern money name
29:25
I've ever heard in my life. Like Landon
29:27
Dupont's coming to the plantation this
29:29
weekend.
29:30
>> Yeah. Yeah, I know it's true. But um
29:33
Lisky got extra usage in the playoffs
29:36
and he was awesome. So I I like I'm
29:41
excited to see what he does this year.
29:43
Um because it is possible that you know
29:45
with with Dupont leaving for college,
29:48
Liski is going to get kind of a first
29:51
crack at being, you know, the guy on the
29:54
on um the blue line for uh the what is
29:57
it? The silver tips. The Yeah, Everett
29:59
Silver tips. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
30:01
>> Yeah. So, he's gonna he's going to get
30:02
the first crack at that. And what if he
30:05
goes off? Like, what if he crushes it
30:08
in, you know, steps into that role as
30:11
the number one defenseman and he's just
30:12
a be a a boss back there. That would be
30:14
awesome. So, I like that value the
30:16
Flyers got.
30:18
>> Yeah, I'm into that pick big time. This
30:19
is a very Flyers pick where you're
30:21
getting just an overall solid player.
30:23
Seems to have very good hockey sense.
30:25
Really checks all those briier boxes
30:27
right there. So, I'm in Delki. They got
30:30
a pair of goalenders. I don't know a ton
30:32
about the goalenders. Uh Martin Push
30:34
Lavic. Go with that. And Marrick
30:38
Slenica. Yeah, sure. I'm crushing it.
30:41
>> Yeah. I'm not even gonna try.
30:43
>> Yeah. And I don't know anything, but I I
30:44
do like replenishing the goalending pool
30:47
as much as you can because goalies are a
30:49
crapshoot. You got to just take those
30:51
lotto balls wherever you can get them.
30:52
>> Something to know about to Jesus [Β __Β ]
30:54
Christ. I don't know what just happened
30:55
there. So, I just like shortcircuited
30:57
like a robot. Uh, something to note
30:59
about those uh two goalies, they're both
31:01
Czech and uh Dan Vadar, who famously is
31:05
also Czech, he has already said that he
31:06
has invited both of them both of them
31:08
over to his house for a barbecue.
31:10
>> I I love Vlad so much. Like I
31:15
>> our Vlatty, man. I love our Vlatty.
31:17
Okay. And I I I mean, we're gonna talk
31:20
about this. I mean, we could talk about
31:21
it now because I don't give a [Β __Β ] about
31:22
KJ Sour or Max. Uh, yeah, sure. Liking
31:26
and
31:27
>> no offense to them. All respect.
31:28
>> No offense to them. You know, I'm sorry
31:31
to this man, but I got no idea who he
31:33
is. Uh, but yeah, Dan Ladar formerly has
31:36
an extension now with the Flyers. Five
31:38
years, five and a half mil, and
31:41
>> I was going to say, is it maybe like a
31:43
little long given what we've seen from
31:44
him? Maybe. But who gives a [Β __Β ]
31:46
>> I don't care.
31:48
>> It's like, all right, let's pretend that
31:50
Pit's great.
31:51
>> Yeah, let's pretend that he that last
31:54
season is the best hockey he'll ever
31:55
play and then from now on he's going to
31:57
be like a low-level starting goalie. Um,
32:01
could it be a slight overpay if that
32:04
turns out to be the case? Yes. But
32:08
overall, five mil for a pretty good
32:12
starting goalie is terrific.
32:14
>> Yeah,
32:15
>> Grubau is getting paid more than him.
32:17
Bill.
32:18
>> So, like I love this this contract for
32:22
him and they're betting that he that
32:24
what we saw from him last season is just
32:26
who he is. Um, and if that if that is
32:30
true, if this just is who he is and he
32:32
really is, you know, the goalie that we
32:34
saw from last season, this is a
32:36
spectacular contract. Spectacular
32:38
contract. And you know what? Let's
32:41
pretend, you know, he's good for a year
32:42
or two and then he starts to decline
32:44
because he's not super young. But let's
32:47
pretend that happens. Okay. Like, is it
32:50
an expensive That would be a little bit
32:52
of It would be a little expensive for a
32:54
backup goalie, but you know what? He's
32:56
an important guy. He's loved in the
32:58
locker room. And as a backup, he could
33:00
be I mean, we've seen him succeed as a
33:02
backup before. So, I I would not be
33:05
upset with that at all. Especially if,
33:07
you know, let's pretend Ryan comes over
33:09
and he's impressing. He takes the reigns
33:11
as the number one and then you got
33:13
Larara as the backup. I don't know. I I
33:15
think I love the contract. Some people
33:17
are freaking out about the the term. I
33:19
don't care. I don't care about the term
33:22
at all. I think it's it's not like he's
33:24
super old.
33:25
>> No, he's actually in his So, the
33:28
interesting thing is if you talk to like
33:30
Joe Darraini, Italian Joe loves to point
33:32
this out. He is the king of pointing
33:34
this out over on the BSH podcast, but a
33:38
lot of goalies really seem to hit their
33:39
prime in their later 20s. you know, they
33:42
seem to hit it a little bit later than
33:44
your forwards and such. And he's 28 now.
33:46
So,
33:46
>> we could be signing him in his prime to
33:49
a $5.5 million a season contract, which
33:52
could be a great deal for the Flyers.
33:53
So, I I really like it. I think with the
33:56
cap rising, five and a half mil ain't
33:58
that much. And I feel so much better now
34:02
about the goalending position than I did
34:04
a year ago.
34:05
>> Joseph Wall here now. Like, it's And you
34:08
know what's the best part, Steve?
34:10
Dan Ladar is stoked to be here. Stoked
34:14
to be here. Like we we heard the story
34:15
about how him and his family were out
34:17
celebrating like the contract. He's
34:20
pumped to be a flyer. Yeah.
34:22
>> And it's just it's it's awesome. I think
34:24
it's perfect.
34:25
>> Well, and you think about guys like like
34:27
Cutter Goautier, right, who did not want
34:29
to be a flyer, did not want any part of
34:31
this. And now you start to see guys like
34:34
Dan Vladar, like Trevor Zegris, like
34:37
Porter Martone, guys who just want to be
34:40
here. They want to be part of this. It
34:42
feels like the Flyers are building that
34:44
reputation back. It It feels like the
34:46
Flyers are back to being the Flyers.
34:48
They're not 100% there because they
34:50
couldn't get John Carlson here, right?
34:52
But John Carlson also wanted to go to
34:55
capable of winning now. Yeah, exactly.
34:56
And the Flyers are on the way up. And I
34:58
think the Flyers are building that
35:00
reputation and making themselves a
35:02
destination again slowly but surely by
35:04
getting these kind of guys in there. So
35:05
Fedar being stoked is an awesome thing.
35:08
He loves being here. He loves He's got a
35:10
perfect attitude for Philadelphia. He
35:12
the way I saw him in the playoffs, lead
35:15
this team, be the most excited guy on
35:17
this team. It's awesome to see. I
35:19
freaking love Dan Vladar. I'm super
35:21
happy for him.
35:22
>> Me too. Uh Steve, can we talk about Giru
35:25
real fast?
35:26
>> Yeah. Yeah. I actually wanted to bring
35:27
it up on the show, so let's talk about
35:28
it now. Why not?
35:29
>> Okay. All right. So, the reason I'm
35:30
asking to bring this up now is um there
35:33
have been reports that the Flyers are
35:36
open to bringing back franchise icon
35:39
Claude Jaru uh on a short-term deal.
35:42
>> We have a a tweet from Charlie Oconor
35:44
from 16 minutes ago. Y
35:46
>> a Jaru return, I believe, is still a
35:48
possibility for the Flyers, but I've
35:49
heard he wanted to take his time on a
35:50
final decision. So, that's the delay on
35:52
that front. So I that's what I wanted to
35:56
talk about because it's not like people
35:58
were may have been wondering like what
36:00
are the Flyers gonna do? They're gonna
36:01
miss out on Jiru now and you know Giru
36:05
is out there like that that is I'm glad
36:08
that that report came out that it is in
36:10
fact
36:10
>> I've been ready I've been ready just in
36:12
case. Yeah.
36:13
>> Oh, my precious.
36:14
>> Claudgeru coming back would be very
36:18
cool, Steve.
36:20
>> Very cool. And let's let's break this
36:22
down now before we talk about a couple
36:24
of the other deals because we're talking
36:25
about it and this is hyperbole and this
36:27
is how we go, baby. We just talk about
36:29
what feels right in the moment because
36:31
it's all about the flow of conversation
36:32
at the end of the day. But you might be
36:34
asking where the hell does Claude Drew
36:36
even fit in to this Flyers lineup. And
36:39
that's the beautiful thing about if you
36:40
bring Claude Jaru in is he fits anywhere
36:43
in the Flyers lineup. There's literally
36:45
any spot you can plug him into at center
36:47
or left wing that makes sense because
36:50
he's that versatile a player. He's still
36:53
really faking good. He would have been
36:55
one of the Flyers top scorers easy last
36:57
season. And the biggest thing with
36:59
bringing Jaru back now that you have
37:01
lost out on John Carlson as a potential
37:03
power play quarterback or you know
37:05
whoever, right? We There's some Morgan
37:07
Riley rumors out there. If you bring
37:09
Claude Drew back into the fold, that
37:11
immediately massively improves the power
37:13
play.
37:15
>> Yeah. No. Oh my god. Absolutely. Now,
37:17
granted, it's not going to fix the power
37:19
play completely. No way. There there's a
37:22
lot of problems with the power play and
37:24
you know, Claudoo coming back at soon to
37:27
be 39 years old. That's not going to be
37:29
enough to fix the power play. But
37:31
>> Alamasi takes over as assistant coach
37:33
also and coaches the power play.
37:35
>> Yeah. No, but it will,
37:36
>> which I'm into, if he wants to be a
37:38
coach and player at the same time, like
37:39
an old baseball manager, let's do it.
37:41
>> It will improve the power play if he
37:43
comes back. But like the thing for me is
37:45
like
37:46
>> I don't know, man. It just feels right
37:47
for him to come back. Like, you know,
37:49
and I know that there's concerns about
37:51
like, oh well, it's, you know, how will
37:53
it affect the locker room, this and
37:55
that. Like, you know, will he come back
37:57
here and think that it's his locker room
37:59
again? Like, I don't know if that would
38:01
be that much of an issue. Like I don't
38:03
see Claude having that much of an ego.
38:05
Um I just I think it would make so much
38:08
sense because like he's so versatile.
38:11
You can kind of put like you could put
38:13
him on the fourth line. You could also
38:15
put him on the second or third line. I
38:17
don't think he should go on the second
38:19
line, but like you
38:20
>> he go on the first line like
38:21
>> he could play up he could play up in the
38:23
lineup. Um he's
38:25
>> so I have a dream I have a dream line
38:27
for Claire right now. I have a dream
38:29
line. So, I'm I'm curious if you're in
38:31
agreement here, but how I envision him
38:33
coming in is your third line. It's
38:36
Claude Jaru, Noah Kates, and Matt
38:39
Vishkov.
38:44
>> I wouldn't hate that. I
38:45
>> I love that.
38:46
>> Love that.
38:47
>> I love that for many reasons. And the
38:49
first is for So, first reason, okay, is
38:52
that he can alternate with Kates on the
38:55
faceoff circle. He's much better than
38:57
Kate's at faceoffs. Like it's not even a
38:58
question. He is a master of faceoffs. So
39:01
he can take the faceoffs and then slide
39:02
back over to wing. We love Noah Kates's
39:04
two-way game for playing center. So that
39:07
is perfect right there. Then the
39:09
offensive upside. You want to talk about
39:11
a guy who will click with Mishkov and
39:13
find a way to unlock that game. And hey,
39:17
we'll find a way to communicate with
39:18
this guy because he's just such a Claudo
39:22
may be the best one of the best passers
39:23
in Flyers history. certainly assist-wise
39:25
is up there. But
39:27
>> yeah,
39:27
>> I think if anybody is going to
39:29
understand how that mind works in
39:31
Mishkov's head, especially when he comes
39:33
in, we've been seeing those workout
39:35
pictures, bud. I know you're doing the
39:36
work. I believe in you, Mike. But
39:39
>> Claude, I think will be very good with
39:42
Matt Fishkov, and I I just want to see
39:45
it is a more talented offensive player
39:47
to stick with him while he gets better
39:49
at the North American game. I just love
39:51
that fit. I I think it's great. And um I
39:56
I don't know, man. I I just
39:58
[sighs and gasps]
39:59
having Shiru back with the team being
40:01
good again. It's not like bringing him
40:04
back would be, you know, just like a
40:07
lateral move. Like he would improve the
40:10
team very much so. And you know, I feel
40:13
like people are downplaying the impact
40:15
that it could have him coming back. And
40:17
it on paper it makes sense. I do I do
40:19
wonder, you know, I I know that there's
40:21
questions of, well, where does he fit?
40:23
Because they do have Nolachari now. Um,
40:27
you brought back uh Carl Grundstrom. Um,
40:30
you know, it's like the the bottom six
40:34
is like kind of crowded for the Flyers.
40:36
>> Bump and Barky have spots to find in the
40:38
offense because they both I think they
40:40
both proved themselves, especially Barky
40:42
last year. So you do have some mouths to
40:45
feed, but also at some point a couple
40:48
wingers are getting traded from this
40:49
team regardless, right? Like
40:52
>> especially we know Danny Brier wants to
40:54
upgrade. We have seen that desire.
40:57
There's a lot of talk that they made a
40:59
push for Maverick Bourc who you can
41:01
debate the offensive upside of Maverick
41:04
Bourc. It certainly does not appear to
41:06
be anything great, but it shows a desire
41:09
to upgrade and get better. And at some
41:12
point they are going to have to move one
41:14
of these wingers if not multiple wingers
41:16
to upgrade at center and defense is just
41:19
gonna have to happen. So regardless you
41:22
get your ruin here. This is another guy
41:24
to help this young roster learn the
41:26
ropes. A guy with some actual playoff
41:28
experience because we saw last year very
41:30
little playoff experience in that room.
41:32
And it's another great leader to bring
41:34
into the locker room but also just good
41:36
vibes. And frankly, from a Fly longtime
41:39
Flyers fan perspective, this man should
41:41
absolutely re end his career as a
41:43
Philadelphia Flyer. He should retire a
41:45
Flyer and it's a crime if he doesn't.
41:48
>> I That's the thing. It would It would
41:50
just be awesome for that to happen. I
41:52
would love if he retired a Flyer. Um the
41:55
fact God, it just kills me that he even
41:57
left the team. But
41:58
>> I know I know. You know what's funny is
42:00
like having Owen Tippet and Claude Drew
42:02
after all that would be
42:03
>> that would be very funny. That would be
42:05
really funny. Actually, I did not think
42:06
about that. That's a funny story.
42:08
>> Um, but yeah, I don't know. I'm feeling
42:11
I'm feeling excited about the
42:12
possibility of Giru coming back. He
42:14
would help improve the team.
42:16
>> And what are we talking two years max?
42:18
Like, we're not talking about a
42:20
long-term commitment. The guy's in his
42:22
late 30s. Like, this is not a guy that
42:25
is going to block anybody for a long
42:27
time. Like, okay, Alex Bump might have
42:30
to spend half a year with the Phantoms
42:31
or something. Like, it's not the end of
42:33
the world. He's still refining his game
42:35
anyway. I really liked what I saw from
42:37
Bump last year, but this is a guy he
42:39
could use more refinement. Frankly, I
42:41
really I love the idea of Denver Barky
42:43
being a kick-ass fourthliner to be
42:45
honest with you. Like already looking at
42:47
the fourth line, it is such a massive
42:49
upgrade from Rodrigo Ables, Nick
42:51
Deloreier, and Garnet Hathaway that it's
42:54
just night and day right now. So, and
42:56
like Nola Achari is a guy who you can
43:00
put him in the, you know, up in the
43:02
press box some nights. It doesn't really
43:03
matter. He's going to be in and out of
43:05
the lineup. I see him as a Glen Denning
43:08
upgrade replacement more than anything
43:10
because he's not really like
43:13
>> he doesn't bring what Claude Drew would
43:14
bring. Claude Drew is going to bring you
43:18
offensive
43:19
dino. You know, he's an offensive
43:20
dynamo. He is a guy who is going to come
43:22
in and be Claude friaking Jaru at the
43:24
end of the day. He is not a guy that No
43:27
is a guy who's like he's a two-way
43:28
player. He's a fourthliner. How awesome
43:31
would it be to have Claude Jaru on the
43:33
power play making those cross ice feeds
43:35
to Trevor Ziggress for that one-time
43:38
from the faceoff dot that he crushes
43:41
every time. And then you got Mishkov
43:44
kind of hovering there by the by the
43:46
back door. Um, you know, you got you got
43:49
whoever the [Β __Β ] the defense
43:50
>> Tyson Forester.
43:52
>> Uh, yeah, you got Ty you could have
43:53
Typho there. TK could be out there. I
43:56
don't know. But um
43:57
>> uh Jamie Ddale, let's throw Jamie Dale,
43:59
who has he signed his extension yet?
44:02
>> No, there's a rumor that it's going to
44:03
be six mill for multiple years. We don't
44:06
know.
44:06
>> I'm cool with that. I'm very cool with
44:07
that. That turns out to be the case. Uh
44:10
and the Tyson Forester extension, by the
44:11
way.
44:13
>> I like that. I like that one a lot.
44:15
>> 7.1 mil cap hit for eight years.
44:18
>> I mean, if he can score 30 plus for a
44:21
lot of those years, that's a deal. Even
44:24
if he's just who he is for the duration
44:27
of the contract, it's not even a bad
44:29
contract.
44:30
>> Yeah,
44:30
>> but the thing is
44:31
>> such a good two-way player.
44:32
>> I know that there's more there
44:34
offensively
44:35
>> and like we're gonna see it at some
44:37
point. So that's why I love that
44:39
contract so much.
44:40
>> I think he's getting 30 plus next year.
44:42
That's I feel very confident and I I
44:44
would take that bet. I don't know what
44:45
the odds are over on FanDuel. Go check
44:47
it out.
44:48
>> I do feel like we've been saying that
44:50
for a couple years now. like this is the
44:51
year he's gonna get 30.
44:53
>> It should have been last year, but then
44:54
he had that freak injury with his elbow
44:56
or whatever and that's your big concern
44:58
is like is that going to be a bigger
45:00
problem? But this was the first time in
45:02
his career really had a big problem like
45:04
that. But before he went down with the
45:05
injury, he was on a like 35 to 40 goal
45:09
pace.
45:10
>> Yeah. No, you're you're right. Um,
45:14
>> and frankly, he would have been a bigger
45:16
I firmly believe if he hadn't rushed
45:19
back from that injury and been
45:21
exhausted, he would have been a bigger
45:23
playoff for the Flyers.
45:24
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and another
45:26
thing about this contract, it to me that
45:28
bodess very well for his health. Like I
45:31
don't think the Flyers are signing him
45:32
to that contract if they're concerned
45:33
about his his health.
45:35
>> Absolutely.
45:36
>> Clear. I mean, he obviously he came back
45:37
and he didn't look like himself, but
45:39
those first few games that he was back,
45:41
he looked incredible. Um, and now that
45:44
he has a full off seasonason to kind of
45:46
chillax, hang out, recuperate. Um, I
45:50
think it's very obvious that like this
45:52
won't have any long lasting effects that
45:54
that injury that yet.
45:56
>> Yeah. So, I mean, the thing is it
45:59
bringing Drew in just seems like it
46:02
could just be fun for the entire family
46:04
here. like we could just be having a
46:06
good time all around if they brought him
46:08
back. But we'll see what happens. He's
46:10
got some options out there. I mean, any
46:12
team would be lucky to have him because
46:15
he is fantastic. He is just such a a
46:17
rock solid, really, really good hockey
46:19
player. He could even go back to Ottawa
46:21
after all this. Ottawa having a very
46:23
weird off seasonason. I do not envy that
46:25
fan base at all right now. But he could
46:27
go back to Ottawa after all this. He
46:28
likes it there. Uh obviously his roots
46:30
are there, so it could be that. But he's
46:33
got roots here, too. So, come on home,
46:35
bud. We welcome you very much.
46:38
>> It would be the best thing of all time.
46:40
And
46:41
>> I will do whatever it takes to go to
46:43
opening night for the home opener
46:45
>> to see Claude Daroo.
46:47
>> Yeah. Because were you part of the group
46:48
that was at his last game in Philly?
46:52
>> I was not at that game.
46:54
>> Okay.
46:54
>> But I was part of Broad Street Hockey.
46:58
>> Yeah, we had a whole group at that game.
47:00
It was such a a special emotional night
47:03
for the fan base. Uh it is funny though
47:05
like that he did end with what was it
47:08
exactly a thousand games as a flyer.
47:11
>> Exactly 10,00 games. Yes.
47:12
>> That's crazy. That's crazy. But yeah,
47:15
they're still in the mix for Claude
47:16
Jaru. I've heard some Morgan Riley
47:19
rumors out there. You know, I I'm
47:21
wondering if Briier is feeling any I I
47:23
don't think Brier is feeling pressure
47:25
about this. I feel like people want to
47:26
put pre pressure on Brier to make a big
47:28
swing, but I don't think he's feeling
47:30
pressure on this. Uh, if you're one of
47:32
those like Philly columnists who are
47:34
always like spewing hot takes out there.
47:36
Uh, you could be out there going like,
47:39
well, the Sixers just made a big move,
47:41
so the Flyers need to respond. And by
47:43
the way, congrats on the Sixers for
47:44
getting Jaylen Brown for the corpse of
47:47
Paul George, a couple first round picks.
47:50
That what a crazy deal to get Jaylen
47:53
Brown for. If you're feeling good about
47:56
the Sixers, they have plus 2,000 odds to
47:58
win the NBA Finals next year, even with
48:00
the Jaylen Brown edition over on
48:02
FanDuel. So, if you you want to put your
48:04
money where your mouth is, bet your
48:05
Philadelphia 76ers next year, plus 2,000
48:08
on FanDuel. I like that bet. Go ahead
48:10
and do that if you're looking for some
48:12
long-term action. But it's it is just
48:15
wild to think that happened over there.
48:17
>> It I still can't believe that trade.
48:19
Thank god the the Sixers made that trade
48:22
for Jaylen Brown because that's taking a
48:25
little bit of pressure off of the
48:26
Flyers. I feel like people who would be
48:28
mad at the Flyers are not mad at the
48:30
Flyers right now because the Sixers are
48:31
doing cool stuff. So, thank God. Hat tip
48:34
to you Sixers. Um yeah, Steve, in terms
48:37
of Morgan Riley,
48:40
I actually would not hate it. Now, now
48:43
granted, um
48:44
>> would this have to come in conjunction
48:46
with trading Risto? because I'm kind of
48:48
like over the trade risto part of it all
48:50
now.
48:51
>> Yeah, I'm curious because I I do like
48:54
the idea of bringing in Morgan Riley
48:56
because even though he's not young, he's
48:59
32. Um, you know, he's proven to be a
49:04
pretty good offensive defenseman. And
49:06
now last season he had an awful season.
49:08
He was not good for the for the Leafs
49:10
last year.
49:11
>> Yeah. But who was good for the Leafs
49:12
last year?
49:14
>> Well, that's the thing. He he no one was
49:16
very good for the Leafs last year, but
49:17
he still had 36 points in 78 games. So
49:21
that's pretty good. And plus, I believe
49:24
in his tenure in the NHL, he has one,
49:28
two, three, four seasons where he had at
49:32
least 20 power play points.
49:34
>> I like that.
49:36
>> And so he's like he's a proven point
49:39
producer on the man advantage. He knows
49:40
how to quarterback a power play. I mean,
49:43
the Toronto power play at one time while
49:45
Morgan Riley was on it was one of the
49:47
best in the NHL. So, he could be he
49:51
could give the Flyers power play a boost
49:53
if they were to acquire him. Um, and you
49:56
know, even aside from the power play, he
49:58
has been productive. He I mean, he's
49:59
he's scored 70 points before um as a
50:03
defenseman. So, I I would not hate that
50:07
at all. I do question, you know, is he
50:10
uh is he slowing down because he is
50:12
getting older. Um so that is a little
50:15
bit of a concern, but I I'm not totally
50:19
anti- Morgan Riley because I know a lot
50:21
of the Leafs fans are saying like, "Oh,
50:23
this guy stinks this and that, but they
50:25
are a wild bunch of people, Leafs fans,
50:28
and they're insane and
50:30
>> they're nuts.
50:31
>> Everyone on the like you said, everyone
50:33
on the Leafs sucked this year. Every
50:35
single person. So,
50:36
>> we already picked one up. Joseph Wall,
50:38
who had a It's funny because like his
50:40
subpar year is so much better than like
50:43
Sam Harrison's best year, who, by the
50:45
way, speaking of the Senators having a
50:47
weird off seasonason. Sam Harrison now
50:49
an Ottawa Senator after all that, WHICH
50:52
GOOD LUCK WITH THAT, FELLAS.
50:53
>> I hope he does well there. I really do.
50:55
>> I like Sam. He seems like a super nice
50:56
guy. Fantastic. Head of hair on that
50:58
head.
50:58
>> Yeah,
50:59
>> fantastic.
50:59
>> Unbelievable hair.
51:01
>> Yeah. But like I just I'm very glad to
51:04
have moved on from him. I'm glad to have
51:06
Wall and I'll I'll take Riley off their
51:08
hands for the right price also.
51:10
>> I would be thrilled. I really would. I
51:13
just listen I I like Risto
51:16
>> and I don't want to trade Risto just to
51:17
trade Risto, but I would prefer to bring
51:20
in a guy who can have a little bit more
51:22
of an impact. And I just I just feel
51:25
like Risto's, you know, his impact I
51:28
think is limited. I would I would like
51:30
to see a guy like Morgan Riley, you
51:33
know, come in and and what what if a
51:36
change of scenery is what he needs and
51:37
he he's very good on the power play for
51:41
the Flyers. Like that is to me that's
51:42
huge. I fixing the power play I think is
51:44
such a important thing and I just I
51:47
can't go into this season with them
51:49
sucking on the power play again. Steve,
51:50
I'll pull my hair out. I I'll
51:53
>> Yeah, I feel you. It is funny that we
51:56
have talked about it in two different
51:58
ways, right? About how like Risto isn't
52:00
meeting it both in the physicality
52:02
department and also the power play
52:04
department because he's really just he's
52:06
been he's gotten better in the
52:08
physicality. But seeing what Sokowski
52:10
could potentially bring to the plate in
52:12
comparison is just night and day. like
52:15
you're talking about big, mean,
52:17
physical, a guy who strikes fear into
52:19
the hearts of men versus like a guy
52:21
who's hard to play against. And then
52:23
yeah, when you put him on the power
52:25
play, he just [Β __Β ] sucks. So, I would
52:28
be into Riley for that reason. I mean, I
52:30
wish you'd get Gostas Bear back from
52:32
Carolina because like he would fix a lot
52:34
of problems there. I would be into
52:36
having some sort of replacement back
52:38
there because you're right, the power
52:39
play I think is the biggest thing. If
52:41
I'm an irrational person still on
52:44
Twitterx that is looking for reasons to
52:47
be mad at Danny Brriier, not having done
52:49
anything to fix the power play is the
52:51
one thing that you can legitimately be
52:52
furious at him for because Briier is in
52:55
a tough spot where so many guys that he
52:58
could have signed for center resigned. I
53:00
still look at Conor McDavid signing that
53:02
idiotic two-year deal with Edmonton. So
53:04
weird, but you could be making 20 mills
53:05
a Philadelphia Flyer right now. What are
53:07
you thinking? Come home, Connor. They
53:09
already started talking to him on the
53:10
plane. It's happening. Come on. But you
53:14
know, like Jack Eel resigned in Vegas,
53:16
which I can't blame him there. I mean,
53:17
that was a team that was just in the cup
53:19
final again. Okay. But all the guys that
53:22
could have been available already
53:23
signed. So, there really wasn't that
53:25
many guys available. Trades are hard and
53:28
Brier does not like to get beat on these
53:30
trades.
53:31
In regard to Conor McDavid,
53:34
did you see the report that apparently
53:36
the Bruins almost traded for Darnell
53:40
Nurse and in return the Oilers would
53:43
have gotten Nikita Zidorov?
53:45
>> No,
53:46
>> Nikita Nikita Zidorov
53:49
nixed the trade
53:51
because
53:53
one would assume probably doesn't want
53:55
to play for Mike Babcock. It's just wild
53:59
that Conor McDavid was like, "We need
54:01
Mike Babcock." I I don't think he
54:04
understood
54:05
the implications of Mike Babcock. Mike
54:09
Babcock coming in
54:11
>> the implications.
54:11
>> And no one's going to want to no one's
54:13
going to want to play for him. Like,
54:16
we're already seeing guys turning down
54:20
trades because they don't want to deal
54:22
with that head coach. And we're seeing
54:23
guy Darnell Nurse is like, "See, I'm
54:25
out. get me the hell out of here. Like,
54:27
>> yeah. And I I by the way, I I loved San
54:30
Jose's uh off seasonason until free
54:35
agency day when they brought in Trouba
54:37
on a huge deal and they traded for the
54:39
full cap hit for Nurse. Like,
54:41
>> yeah,
54:41
>> why? Because I was into Nurse
54:43
>> if they retained 2 mil, maybe three, but
54:47
like I did not want him for that full $9
54:49
million cap hit. But yeah, dude, like
54:51
the coaching does matter. And we saw
54:53
this with Tortoella. Guys didn't want to
54:54
play. guys did not want to come here and
54:56
play with John Tortoella. Okay. Like we
54:58
kind of were in denial for a little bit
55:00
like no they absolutely did not want to
55:01
play for John Torella. Okay. And it's is
55:04
he even like I don't think he has a job
55:06
prediction.
55:06
>> He does not have a job right now. That
55:08
was the craziest.
55:09
>> And he decided not to go back TO VEGAS.
55:11
HE WENT ON A CUP run and was like nah.
55:13
>> Yeah. very like Larry David kind of move
55:16
like I'm good like I don't okay whatever
55:19
happened there but people didn't want to
55:20
play for him and we have groused a lot
55:23
about Rick Tocket and we certainly have
55:24
our issues with him especially for
55:26
European players right but at the end of
55:28
the day at least North American players
55:31
love Rick Tocket and want to play for
55:32
him so that is part of the Flyers
55:35
rebuilding their image as a destination
55:37
is the coaching and people want to play
55:39
for Rick Tocket. Yeah, like listen, say
55:41
what you will about Rick Tocket. And
55:43
listen, he could be fired two years from
55:45
now. I can one million percent see that
55:47
happening.
55:47
>> Yeah.
55:48
>> But he is wellliked around the NHL. It's
55:52
not like we have a coach who is a
55:55
deterrent. Thank God they don't have
55:57
anything like that anymore. Um and and
56:00
listen, like I'll be honest, me
56:02
personally, and this is just me, I would
56:04
love Tortoella as a coach. I would love
56:08
him because I feel like the way that he
56:10
likes to be communicated with like that
56:11
vibes with me. I like how he's like,
56:14
"Yeah, if you have issues, come to my
56:16
office and yell at me." I I would be I
56:19
will gladly go like if I I remember when
56:21
I you know, if I have a problem with
56:23
something, I will I have no problem
56:25
approaching that person and being like,
56:28
"Hey, what's let's what's going on? Can
56:30
let's talk about this." And then work
56:32
working through it together. Um, it
56:35
feels like with Mike Babcock that's not
56:38
it's very different. But with Rick
56:39
Tocket, he I mean he's just he's just a
56:42
he's a bro. He's a bro's bro. Like he's
56:45
he's and it makes sense that guys would
56:47
want to play with him. Um and I
56:49
understand why guys wouldn't want to
56:50
play for for John Turella, too, because
56:52
that's, you know, that communication
56:53
style doesn't work for everybody. For
56:55
me, it would be fine. I wouldn't have a
56:56
problem, but like for some people it it
56:58
wouldn't vibe well. So yeah. Um, yeah.
57:01
But like next off seasonason, Steve, if
57:04
let's pretend the Oilers suck. Let's
57:06
pretend Mike Mike Babcock does Mike
57:10
Babcock [Β __Β ] and the team is, you know,
57:13
they're tuning him out because they're
57:14
like, "This guy's an [Β __Β ] We're
57:16
tired of him." Um, and then they don't
57:19
win a cup,
57:21
would Conor McDavid, like will the
57:23
Oilers feel inclined to trade him?
57:25
Because what are you gonna do? Let him
57:27
walk let Conor McDavid walk in free
57:29
agency? Is that what you're going to do?
57:31
So, you know, it's it's going to be very
57:35
interesting. That two-year deal, while
57:36
disappointing, is extremely interesting.
57:39
And I'm trying to remember, somebody
57:41
posted a clip on BSH the other day.
57:45
>> Uh talking about Yes. Talking about like
57:49
teams that could be interesting for
57:50
McDavid, worried to be a free agent or
57:52
traded or whatever. And he mentioned two
57:54
in particular, the Detroit Red Wings and
57:57
your Philadelphia Flyers. And I think a
57:59
big part of that, number one, Slers
58:01
already started the recruiting process
58:03
with that plane ride back from the Four
58:05
Nations. Okay, so they started it there.
58:08
But on top of that, they're rebuilding
58:10
that reputation. They've got cap space
58:12
to take somebody on. And they're a team
58:13
that's building up. They are a team on
58:16
the rise. Porter Marone is a goddamn
58:19
stud. Mishkov has potential to be a
58:21
stud. They've got a solid defense.
58:24
They've got a million wingers. This is a
58:26
team that if they get a Conor McDavid in
58:28
there, that could transform this team.
58:30
So, let's get caught in two years
58:34
and then who knows who's to say.
58:38
>> Yes, exactly. That's that's what I want.
58:41
So, that's it's on my wish list, Steve.
58:43
I don't know. It's hard to bank on it,
58:45
but it's on my wish list.
58:47
>> Yeah. And then just keep Claude on like
58:48
the fourth line so he can just win that
58:50
cup.
58:51
>> Yeah.
58:51
>> Hey,
58:53
>> it all makes sense. It all makes sense
58:55
up in this noggin. All right. Well, this
58:57
was a fantastic talk. Quick start, do
58:59
you have anything else you want to bring
59:00
up before we sign off today?
59:02
>> [Β __Β ] not really. No, [laughter]
59:05
>> that's a man who's confined to his house
59:07
because it's an oven outside.
59:09
>> Yeah.
59:10
>> Yeah.
59:11
>> I did my walking around. I burned my
59:13
calories already. I don't need to be
59:14
doing anymore. So,
59:15
>> you did your hot girl walk.
59:17
>> You did?
59:17
>> Yeah. [laughter]
59:19
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59:20
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59:22
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