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you know, the Flyers are going in the
0:02
right direction and where do we think
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they could go the rest of the off season
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possibly? Like it's not likely they make
0:08
another big move or or anything like
0:10
that. Um, we had on the website today,
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you know, three other things they could
0:14
do, lock up their own guys, get a power
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play quarterback,
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get another center.
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Uh, you mentioned Shane Wright as an
0:21
option, Matty Beniers would be an
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option.
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And those guys have obviously
0:25
disappointed so far and there you have
0:28
to worry about like the human factor of
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it uh and like all that stuff, but you
0:32
look at Seattle, they were under 500
0:34
points percentage these past three
0:35
seasons, like
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you want to like they're professionals,
0:38
they're going to play hard, but like
0:39
Shane like they're not going to be
0:41
getting up for these these games in the
0:43
a random Tuesday night against against
0:45
Utah like if they're not in in the
0:47
playoff push, so
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I I I wouldn't mind taking a shot on
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Shane Wright, Matty Beniers, Dylan
0:53
Larkin if he becomes, you know,
0:55
willing to come to Philadelphia, maybe
0:57
anyone else that becomes available, but
0:59
like who who do you you guys want the
1:01
Flyers to go after next if anybody?
1:04
>> Yeah, I like all those names.
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>> Yeah, they're they're all good. Um, I
1:08
didn't think anybody in free agency this
1:10
year was that sexy. Like I'm not jumping
1:12
out the window to pay Mason Marchment 7
1:14
mil a year. I don't want Jacob Trouba,
1:17
you know, yeah, you see Bobrovsky get
1:19
signed, a guy like Anders, obviously you
1:21
don't need Bobrovsky. Anders Lee,
1:24
I mean, that's way past the point of
1:26
where you'd want Anders Lee and it
1:28
doesn't really fit the timeline anyways,
1:30
right? He'd just be another piece in the
1:31
puzzle, hopefully.
1:34
Like you're getting Colton Sissons? Like
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I I'm not really hyped up for anybody
1:38
who was a free agent this year and and
1:39
they got money. Like all these guys got
1:42
paid.
1:43
Um,
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it's it would just be like maybe maybe
1:46
just sign your own guys. Maybe that's
1:48
what it is.
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>> Definitely sign your own guys. Like I
1:51
want to see frankly, if I could see it
1:53
tomorrow, that would be great, the
1:54
Drysdale and the Zegras contracts. I
1:56
think the Drysdale contract is more or
2:00
less done from everything I've heard.
2:02
Zegras might need a little bit more
2:03
maneuvering, a little bit more work. And
2:05
granted, he was the best offensive
2:07
player for the team most nights last
2:09
year and in a lot of the playoffs. So, I
2:11
understand. But, uh I'd like to see them
2:13
get those things worked out. And yeah, I
2:15
I wouldn't mind taking a swing at a
2:17
right or Beniers. I would love Larkin.
2:19
Larkin would fit this team really,
2:21
really well. I just don't think he wants
2:22
to come here based on what I've heard.
2:24
He wants to go to a team that's a lot
2:26
more established than where the Flyers
2:28
are at. But, hey, beggars can't be
2:30
choosers. I don't know. But, that's all
2:33
big stuff for me. I also wouldn't mind
2:34
maybe taking a shot at like Morgan
2:35
Rielly from the Leafs or something for
2:37
power play quarterback. I think that'd
2:38
be a decent fit here. I am very curious
2:42
about the Ristolainen of it all because
2:44
there's been so many trade rumors around
2:46
Ristolainen. Do they try to move on from
2:48
him still or do they just stay pat with
2:50
him because we did see the best of Risto
2:52
post-Olympic break last year. So, maybe
2:55
we just roll with it through the last
2:57
year and just say good luck, so long,
2:59
and thanks for all the fish on the way
3:00
out the door.
3:01
>> The The Risto of it all is interesting
3:03
because it it does seem like the Flyers
3:06
want to trade him. It seemed like the
3:07
Flyers wanted to shake up their their
3:10
their blue line, you know, make some
3:11
changes back there. I wouldn't hate the
3:14
idea of Morgan Rielly. Um I I know a lot
3:16
of people wouldn't want him. They think,
3:17
you know, maybe he has a lot of miles on
3:20
him. He hasn't really quarterbacked a
3:21
power play in a few years, but he hasn't
3:24
missed many games in the past few years.
3:26
And you know, maybe he's due for an
3:27
injury at some point. But, my my big
3:30
thing with Risto is like you you pencil
3:32
him to pencil him into to miss a month
3:34
or two in the season. And you can't
3:36
really afford that when you're counting
3:38
on like Bonk to take a step up. Yier
3:40
Chech, you don't know if he's going to
3:41
be good defensively. And you don't have
3:43
another really
3:45
defenseman of that prototype. You have
3:47
some on Ben Well, you have Nick Seeler,
3:48
but those are third pair of You don't
3:50
have a top four physical defenseman that
3:53
Keith Jones probably still wants to get
3:55
this summer.
3:56
>> No, and I think that's that is an
3:57
archetype of guy that you need to some
3:59
extent. Like an Aaron Ekblad type guy. I
4:03
mean, obviously he was a number one
4:04
overall pick. He was the top pair
4:06
defenseman on on the Panthers for a
4:08
really long time, but you know, you look
4:09
a little bit later in his career. Jake
4:11
McCabe even somebody like that. Riley
4:13
doesn't necessarily fit the the
4:15
toughness mold, but I do like his
4:17
overall play. I think he's due for a a
4:19
bit of a career renaissance. I think
4:21
he's just kind of ran his race in
4:22
Toronto. I
4:24
He's been in trade rumors forever. It's
4:26
kind of like the Jaylen Brown thing,
4:27
honestly. Like
4:29
How How long has it been since there
4:31
hasn't been a Morgan Rielly trade rumor?
4:33
It feels like it's been 5 years and he's
4:34
just like, maybe Morgan Rielly is going
4:36
to go this year and he never does and he
4:38
probably won't, but
4:39
>> It's like
4:39
>> At the end of the day, yeah, it is it
4:41
actually is like
4:43
yeah.
4:44
Yeah.
4:44
>> Yeah, it is like Risto in that respect
4:47
and
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there's again, I think I'm just
4:50
part of me like I was 70% of me wanted
4:53
Leo Carlsson, obviously, but there was a
4:55
part of me that's like maybe we can just
4:57
like, you know, we'll take this a little
4:59
slow. We'll be a little discerning with
5:02
who you're going to bring in. You've
5:03
made some good I don't think he's made
5:05
Danny's made any like out and out bad
5:08
moves. I think the Wall trade's good.
5:09
The Drysdale trade I think it you got as
5:11
much as you could out of that. I think
5:13
it obviously
5:14
um his hands were tied there, but I
5:16
think I like how it ended up um
5:19
relatively. And the Zegras thing was it
5:21
was a coup, right? That was a great
5:23
great, you know, move to make uh
5:26
a buy low candidate uh that's really
5:28
turned out. Um and
5:31
they have
5:32
assets. That's That's something that is
5:35
really necessary for all of this and as
5:37
we enter world that, you know, the NHL's
5:39
going to get a lot more There's going to
5:41
be I feel like there's just going to be
5:42
more player movement. I feel like
5:44
um there are going to be guys who
5:47
especially the younger guys who are
5:48
coming up now, I don't know if they're
5:50
married necessarily to staying with
5:52
their teams. Like the McDavid thing,
5:54
McDavid to me is a a one of one in the
5:57
way of like
5:58
I don't know if he'll just stay in
6:00
Edmonton forever just because that's
6:01
what he's got set in his mind. But I
6:04
don't think there's a lot of those guys
6:06
coming out of the draft now who are
6:08
like, "Yeah, this team drafted me. I'm
6:10
going to pledge my loyalty to to them."
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And
6:13
I'm going to play here for
6:14
10, 15 years. And we saw it with
6:16
Karlsson. It's like, "Hey, if you don't
6:17
want to pay me, I will get paid
6:19
somewhere else." Like if you don't want
6:20
to pay me, I'll go. Um, and I don't see
6:23
that being the last time something like
6:25
that's going to happen, so.
6:26
>> No, definitely not. It's a new archetype
6:29
in the league because, I mean, we saw it
6:30
with Kotier, we saw it with Adam Fox a
6:32
few years ago. Guys really want to
6:34
dictate where they are going. Uh,
6:36
especially American guys, by the way.
6:38
Maybe it's an American
6:38
>> Especially out of the draft. It is
6:40
definitely an American thing.
6:41
>> Yeah, like
6:42
>> More than like a Swedish dude. I got to
6:43
just, you know.
6:44
>> Yeah.
6:45
>> Elias Pettersson's been asking out for
6:47
15 years.
6:48
>> Like, yeah, okay, Petey. Okay, Petey.
6:49
>> All right. All right, Elias. [laughter]
6:51
Well, I already have the other Elias.
6:53
Why would I pay you?
6:53
>> That's
6:54
That's where building something special,
6:56
building a destination really comes into
6:58
play because right now everybody, when
7:00
you hear trade rumor, right, where a
7:01
guy's demanding a trade, it's like,
7:03
"Well, I want to go to Minnesota. I want
7:05
to go to Vegas. I want to go to
7:06
Florida." Like they just want to go to
7:08
places where they're probably going to
7:09
win, which I I understand. But like
7:12
that's why you have to build up to being
7:13
the one of those places. Like Minnesota
7:15
wasn't even that place until they got
7:18
Quinn.
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>> Yeah, but they're still not It's still
7:20
not the place.
7:22
>> I feel like Bill Guerin's just like
7:24
saying to people like "Can you mention
7:25
Minnesota as one of the teams with
7:27
Vegas? Like that would be nice. Vegas,
7:29
Florida, Minnesota." Like, "Yeah, sure,
7:31
Bill. I'll do you a solid. Okay."
7:33
>> Yeah.
7:33
>> I I'm sure also if if Bill Guerin is
7:36
going to pick the next Olympic team,
7:38
it's probably good if you're an American
7:40
guy and said, "Yeah, I'll go to
7:41
Minnesota."
7:43
>> Yeah.
7:44
Yeah. That can't hurt. That's for sure.
7:45
>> Send me to Minnesota. So, I can play
7:48
I would love to be a healthy scratch on
7:50
a gold medal-winning team in 3 and 1/2
7:52
years.
7:54
>> [laughter]
7:54
>> Yeah. You You You win the gold medal
7:56
without without thoughts or anything.
7:57
That would would a medal whatever.
7:59
Without doing anything. Just there. But,
8:01
yeah. Like, Shane Wright I'm trying to
8:03
read up like what the right what the
8:05
Kraken would want for him. And like, it
8:07
seems like maybe a similar type player
8:10
with in a change of scenery type thing.
8:13
I wouldn't do Tippett for him. I don't
8:16
I don't think.
8:17
>> David Jiricek.
8:18
>> I wonder if they would I would love
8:20
I would love to to flip David Jiricek
8:22
for something. Like, I wonder if Seattle
8:23
would do like a Yanni Gourde and a
8:24
third. Like, you get you get another
8:27
young center who [snorts]
8:29
we don't know. He He played in the
8:31
playoffs with some sort of injury that
8:32
he had to have a surgery for, which is
8:34
which is awful there. But, like like
8:36
that wouldn't hurt the Flyers roster.
8:38
No. At the same time, where does Wright
8:40
play? That you have to then make another
8:42
trade, another move. It's just there's
8:44
so many dominos, so many moving parts
8:46
that makes it tough to be like, "Okay,
8:48
yeah. Let's go get Shane Wright. He'll
8:50
play 3C, and and we'll move on."
8:52
>> And that's where I'm at right now is
8:53
like I know it's disappointing to say
8:55
you didn't change anything. But, like
8:58
I don't know. It's a pretty solid team,
9:00
and you got to let these guys grow. And
9:02
frankly, if somebody is a turd out there
9:05
this year, and you want to trade him
9:06
because of that, by all means. But,
9:08
there's nobody that has to be traded. I
9:10
mean, if you look at the roster as it's
9:12
constructed right now, one of Bumper
9:14
Barkey is on the fourth line. Which is
9:16
like
9:18
wild to think about because neither of
9:19
those guys are fourth line players. They
9:21
should be third line or better. So, I
9:23
mean, Michkov's probably going to be a
9:24
third line player again this year, and
9:26
that's a whole other conversation we're
9:27
not getting into right now. But, that's
9:29
because of the depth on this team. And
9:32
especially on wing, you have a lot of
9:33
depth, and there's a lot of guys who can
9:35
play interchangeable at center and
9:36
everything. Like, it would have been
9:38
great if they had gotten Giroux cuz he
9:39
would have helped the power play. He
9:40
would have looked really good on that
9:42
potential third line, but they don't
9:43
need him at the end of the day. And
9:45
Carlson was the guy they needed, but
9:48
we'll figure it out, right? I mean,
9:49
you're going to take other shots at
9:50
guys.
9:51
As the roster is, it is disappointing,
9:53
but these guys are going to grow,
9:55
they're going to learn, they are going
9:56
to be better hockey players at the end
9:58
of the season.
9:58
>> Yeah, and and
10:00
even even when every time I look at
10:02
Barkey on the fourth line, I'm just
10:03
like, why is he even there? Like it's
10:05
like an it's like an elephant standing
10:07
out in the Arctic Circle or something.
10:09
I'm like, what the hell is this guy
10:11
doing here? Like he's not he is he was a
10:13
rookie last year. He was a rookie last
10:14
year and could have played on the first
10:16
line and would not have, you know, been
10:18
out of place, right? And and that's a
10:20
third round pick who's about, you know,
10:22
6 in shorter than I am, damn near, on
10:25
skates. So,
10:27
like there's only room for improvement
10:29
for all of these guys. You don't know
10:30
what the ceiling of Bump is. You don't
10:32
know what the ceiling of Barkey is
10:33
because these guys weren't supposed to
10:34
be that good immediately. Maybe they
10:36
suck next year. I doubt it, but maybe
10:38
they do. Then you have, you know, a a
10:42
bit of actionable information. You can
10:43
be like, hey, now we got to go, you
10:45
know, chalk him out, you know. We'll
10:48
try the next guy. We'll get
10:50
Grebankin back in. We'll get Grundy back
10:52
in here. You know, we'll get another
10:54
young guy.
10:55
Um
10:55
but but even at center, you know, you
10:57
got depth. Dvorak, Kates, Coots, like
11:01
these guys are all decent centers.
11:02
Zegras, um
11:05
it's like
11:07
it's just the one guy and I think they
11:09
have the sorts of players
11:12
littered throughout the lineup,
11:13
throughout their system, that when you
11:15
put them together with some picks, you
11:16
can trade for pretty much anybody. And
11:18
like Steve said, it is just about
11:20
proving that you are the destination
11:22
that people want to go to
11:24
because I don't, you know, Minnesota for
11:26
years, for basically my entire childhood
11:29
and adolescence, nobody's signing in
11:31
Minnesota. Like nobody wants to do that.
11:34
I guess there's more
11:35
Minnesota guys who came up through the
11:37
the system and, you know, played there
11:40
as Golden Gophers or whatever, played
11:41
high school hockey there and now it's a
11:43
bit different, but that was the case
11:45
back then, too. I mean, it's just you
11:47
got to make yourself somewhere
11:49
attractive
11:51
um for players before you can really
11:53
start making these moves and I think
11:55
if nothing else, the Carlson thing shows
11:56
that the Flyers are at least on the way
11:58
to doing that, if not pretty much
12:00
already there. Especially when you look
12:02
around the division.
12:03
>> Yeah.
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