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I'm against birth control, so I take pregnancy tests every day
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Oh, she fell for the anti-birth control propaganda. I gave birth to four children in three years, and the fifth one is on the way
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It's dangerous now for me to get pregnant again, so this will be our last baby. How are you sure this is your last if you're doing nothing to prevent it
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Mommy. What do y'all think about our way of going about preventing pregnancy naturally
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When your daughters grow up, will you advocate against them using birth control as well
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Oh, that's a tough question. Yeah. Here. Easy work. I'm Katie, I'm 25, and I am an influencer
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You're 25? I'm not 25, I'm 23. I was like, this is no hell
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My name is Larry, I'm a wedding DJ and a drain cleaner, and my age is 27
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We have four daughters, and we're pregnant with baby boy, so that'll be number five when he gets here
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he gets here. How would you describe family life parenting four children under four years
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Parenting four kids is crazy. Honestly, you're just trying to survive. It is absolute chaos all
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the time. Babe, do you know where Riley's Baba is? Yeah, I'll get it for her. Hold on
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Waking funky up. Little monsters. How do you divide the parenting tasks
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Oh, well, we go based off of personality. I'm the disciplinary because I tend to be a little
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bit more um how do i say it stern does she just take a give your sister her bop bop back and she
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seems to be the nurturing loving fun parent i do all the cooking because it's hard for her to
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get around especially the kitchen with the complications she's having and to be honest
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She never really was the cooking type beforehand. How and when did the two of you get together
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How old were you? At the time, I just had a random stalker on Instagram
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You can't call me a stalker. You're a stalker. I was not a stalker
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It's on tape. I was 18 and he was 22. And we had originally met in high school, but we reconnected after
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We hung out once and that was it. Here look Waffles When we got pregnant with Luna it was amazing We were a little skittish and scared because we had previously
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what, a few months before that, lost twins. Sixteen hours into my labor with Luna
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they had just started filling the room with nurses, saying that her heartbeat wasn't there
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and they called an emergency C-section. That was really, really scary. It wasn't until postpartum with the twins
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where I got, like, really bad complications. The twins put into my mind that her health is at risk
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After we had our fourth child, Riley, our doctor, she essentially told us about her uterine window
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and what that means. It's a thin spot in your uterus, basically a hole. If you have a situation where you're pregnant
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and that uterine window ruptures, you only have a certain amount of time to get to a hospital
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and it could be fatal. She was very strongly like, if you want to have more kids
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maybe wait a longer period of time and then check back in
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We were going to take a break for at least a year or two
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And then we ended up pregnant immediately. I was terrified. I was petrified
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Are you ready for mommy to have another baby? Mommy, have a baby
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I am now 27 weeks pregnant, and I am still pretty scared
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It's definitely by far the hardest pregnancy I've had so far. My pregnancy tests are all in here and so is my ovulation journal
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This is my bag of pregnancy tests. These are all positive ones
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Most of these are from the twins and Luna. Tell us about your views on birth control
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I took birth control for a few years and it was not good for my body
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And after I decided I wanted to start having kids, I have declined all forms of birth control
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So that's why I started doing natural family planning, which is tracking your cycles, tracking when you ovulate
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And for four years now, I've been taking pregnancy tests and ovulation tests every day
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except for when I'm pregnant, obviously, which has been quite a while. I've been pregnant a lot
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I had boxes and boxes, and I was taking them every day
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I still have, like, a full box, a hundred pack up in the cabinet
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If you do it successfully, you shouldn't get pregnant, obviously. I'm not the best at it
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Hey, sweetie. The truth is we were very undisciplined. Now that we know how serious you have to take
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natural family planning we will be more structured and more attentive to it I started posting on social media right after Luna was born
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And a lot of things that do well on social media are things that people don't agree with
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I will never, ever get on hormonal birth control again. I will never get an IUD
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I have received a lot of hate online. Pretty much almost every video had some type of hate comment
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Oh, she fell for the anti-birth control propaganda. I hope your relationship is strong because 23 in four kids, good luck
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It's 23 in five kids. He'll be here when I'm still 23. Do you want to have more children after this
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So what I'll say is this is our last child, especially with her body going through the things that it's going through
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I am completely closed to the idea of her getting pregnant again, ever
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Regardless, I have to think about the other kids and myself, and I just cannot risk it
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because this pregnancy is already very, very risky. How are you sure this is your last if you're doing nothing to prevent it
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I'm not doing nothing to prevent it. I am doing natural family planning, which if you do it properly, it's 90% effective
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which is more than many other forms of birth control. This is going to be our last one. That's all I can say
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I don't have to really beg anybody to believe it. How does your family feel about your approach to birth control given the risks involved
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They think I'm crazy, of course, especially with the amount of kids we have
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how soon we're doing it, and our approach to it. So when we started having kids back to back to back to back, how did you guys feel about it
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After the first one, I was cool. The second one, all right, it happens
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But then the third, then the twins, it was like I was worried about her health
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because she kept getting C-sections. and you know I worked in labor and delivery so I know everything that goes along with that so I
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was real scared for her. It was kind of a complex feeling because obviously if you want all these
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kids and everyone's happy that's fine but we don't want to have like a blessing a wanted child in the
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middle of a tragedy so that was the only thing it was like the safety and health of the baby and the mother. What do y'all think about our way of going about not using birth control just going about it
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by tracking ovulation and taking pregnancy tests as well? Well, from someone that has had a lot of babies
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the natural method really didn help But you guys are doing it different than me You tracking it Me it was just okay just don do it right now
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I would say the method that you guys are using can be sound
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But you never know. If you're using contraception, no method is 100% effective
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Honestly, the way I feel about it is we'll see. Your body's already in a state of catch and release every year
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How do you know for sure that this will be your last kid? Our plan after this especially with there being so much risk is to just apply
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Ourselves to the plan and have enough discipline to stick to the plan. I can trust you
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Yeah, I trust you to know what you're doing and do your best, but I also trust you to ask for help
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You always get my support. You always have my support. Y'all are family so
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So just don't disappear anytime soon. I'm not ready to take on five kids
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What has your journey up to now taught you about parenting? There is no instruction manual
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You can do everything what you perceive is right, and you can still mess up along the way
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Just be who you are. It's kind of taught me that it's not the same for every kid. Every child is different, so parenting each child is different
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I'm a Spider-Man. When your daughters grow up to be adults, Will you advocate against them using birth control as well
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Ooh, that's a tough question. Yeah, I didn't. I would actually be rooting for them to do their own research and their own ideas
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Come up with your own ideas of it. Whatever it is, I want to support it. Ultimately, it would be up to them because it is their body, and I would support that either way
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Where are you going? What are you doing? What are your hopes and dreams for your family's future
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I want my kids to be financially stable. I don't care if it's like super successful or not
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And I want them to have babies. I just want to all be happy, healthy, and get along well
