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Senators Roundtable - 2024-25 Prospect Pyramid
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Aug 22, 2024
In this episode of The Hockey Writers Senators Roundtable, Ottawa Senators writers Jacob Billington and Dayton Reimer get together to dive into Dayton's recent prospect pyramid for the 2024-25 season. They go over which prospects made tiers 1 through 5 and finish the show with more trivia. 0:00 Intro 2:27 Tier 1 5:18 Tier 2 7:55 Tier 3 17:57 Tier 4 24:05 More Senators Trivia The Senators Roundtable crew are great writers too - Jacob Billington - https://thehockeywriters.com/author/jbillington/ Paul Quinney - https://thehockeywriters.com/author/pquinney/ Dayton Reimer - https://thehockeywriters.com/author/dreimer/ Subscribe to The Hockey Writers Ottawa Senators Substack for all the best Sens content - https://thehockeywriters.substack.com/subscribe Follow The Hockey Writers: Twitter - https://twitter.com/TheHockeyWriter Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thehockeywriters_
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Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the Senators Roundtable. I'm your host, Jacob Billington
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and it's just going to be me and you today, Dayton. How you doing? I'm doing good, thanks. Yeah
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It's a warm one in Saskatoon today, so I've been hiding inside and getting some writing done. It's been really nice
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Good, good. And you just got accepted for credentials with the blades. Congratulations
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I did. Thank you very much. Yeah. Well, hopefully that'll get some more information here in the new
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near future, but really looking forward to it. I've talked a lot about them in the past for any
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regular viewers of this or Prospect Pyramid or Prospect Corner. Spoilters. Yeah, it's really exciting
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And congrats on your own. You were accepted for the Halifax Mooseheads, if I'm not mistaken
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Yeah, so it should be exciting. Maybe we'll throw in some CHL content throughout the season and
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see how that goes. But for today, we're just going to dive right into
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you released a prospect pyramid a couple days ago. And we're just going to go through what your thoughts are on the senator's prospect
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pool as it sits today. So I'm just going to run through your tiers
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So you have tiers one through five. Tier one is a top line player, top pair talent, or better
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Tier two is a top six forward, top four defenseman starting goaltender
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Tier three is just kind of a bit of a wild card. You don't really know what you're going to get
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Good chance of making the NHL, though. Tier 4 is pretty much a bottom six player, third pair defenseman, backup goalie
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low chance of being impactful but can play NHL games. And then Tier 5 was just everybody else, mostly minor leaguers used for call-ups
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Your additions were Xavier Borgo, Jake Chesson, Jameson, Rees, Wyatt Bonziovanni, Yan Yenek, Javier L Torre, Philip Bruce
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and Hargreakam-Chuk, Gabriel Elias, and Lucas Lennius, Javon Moore, Blake Montgomery, and Eric Wallenius
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So that was a lot of just words thrown at you. But let's just get into your tier one
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You've done this prospect pyramid over the last couple of years. It's a bit of your niche in the Senators group chat that we have for the page
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Nobody has to ask about it. Nobody has to claim it. It's always just, yeah, this is what Dayton's going to do
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So I think for the first time in a few years, we have a tier one player
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I don't know. I didn't actually go back and look at your last couple, but I can't think of anybody
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that would have belonged there. But we got Carter Yakum Chuck in there now. Do you want to talk about him
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being in your guaranteed top line talent or better category? Yeah, I think he brings
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the highest potential that the senators have seen since Tim Stutzler and Jake Sanderson
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who I went back. I didn't put them in tier one, which is wild
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come out right now and say that that was a bad call. I shouldn't have done that. I was just
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working with the idea that tier one should be reserved for like superstars. Like an Austin
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Matthews, like a Connor McDavid. But those guys are so rare. You can't really make a tier for them
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That's like, I don't know, like S tier, if you want to do those ranking things. Like it's extra
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And this year and last year, I restructured it so that tier one wasn't for superstars
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It was for the guys who are guaranteed for a first line
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And I think Carter Yakimchuk is that guy. Whether he's an all-star or not, I don't know
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But he brings a super high level of offense. He was one of the best goal-scoring defensemen in the WHL last year with the Calgary Hitman
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And the Calgary Hitman were kind of terrible. he was their off offensive guy in most situations
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I did watch him a little bit and found some of his decision-making questionable
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but I think that will iron itself out over the next several seasons
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He is a bit more, I think, of a project than you'd expect with a seventh overall pick
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but he, I think he brings a really high level of offense and physicality
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that the senators are going to love. and of course that right shot
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You know, right shot defenseman. You need those guys. He's a first pairing right shot defenseman for sure
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Yeah, and you mentioned a bit of a project. And with that, he's all offense
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You don't have to worry about any of that way. I think we talked about this last week. You don't have to worry about any of his offensive development
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You said he's one of the best goal scoring defensemen in the WHL. If I'm not mistaken, I can't think of a single defenseman that was drafted last year
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that had more goals than him in any league. um so yeah you might be right with that one he i could be wrong but 30 goals for a defenseman
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and especially in the junior in the all those leagues around the world that are 60 game seasons
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i don't see any other defensemen scoring 60 um or 30 60 would be very impressive um but yeah we uh
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we talked a lot about yak and check he has good physicality to but again it's the defensive
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aspects that you need to worry about um tier two top of the lineup players
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you have Mad Sogard in there. He's the only one in that list for you
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Why do you have Mad Sogard in there and why is he the only one in there
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So I think Mad Sogarde is the senator's best shot at a goaltending for the future type of guy
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He has the size. He has the skill. He's done really well in the HL
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His NHL call-ups haven't gone super smoothly. But also we've talked a lot about how no goalie with the
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senators has gone super smoothly in what ever since he was drafted in 2019 he has a tough go at breaking
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into the NHL with the senators but he has the skill to do it and I think when he makes it he will
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be a starting goaltender he just he has the athleticism he has the skill and now he's getting
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that experience now the reason he's the only one is the senator
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just don't have a lot of top-end guys that are like guaranteed top six guys. I think there's a lot
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of potential top six guys, but they're risky. And so I threw a lot of those into tier three
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And they very well could jump up. I've had that in years before. I've been doing this for five years
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And some guys I've put in tier three have jumped up into more of a tier two type guy. Like I think
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Shane Pinto was one for me. I thought he would do. be more of a depth guy. He's not so much a depth guy anymore. He's he's a middle six at the very
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lowest. Ridley Greg, I think, was another guy. I was wondering like, oh, where is he going to be
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Will that offense translate from the WHO? It definitely did. So those are guys who I think had more
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questions and those questions were answered positively. So they could have retroactively been a tier two
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I think Mad Sogard has proven that he's already a tier two
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and that he will be a top goaltender. He just needs to get there
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And I think there's a chance he could be there for 25, 26
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Maybe not like winning a lot of games. We'll see. You might need to kind of split duties, I think
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But there's a chance if Almark doesn't resign that they give the job to Sogarde
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And he could be ready. Yeah, I think he could be. And I agree
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I think he belongs there as well. I think he is going to be the starting goaltender of the future. Again, if Omar doesn't resign
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So yeah, moving on to Tier 3, I'm not going to go through every name in here
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There's a lot. There's a lot. And this Tier 3 and 4, they're all just, it's just a bunch of names
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There's a couple standout players that I just want to ask you about. So Xavier Borgo, we've talked about him a couple times over the past few weeks
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few episodes, but he leads the top of tier three for you
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Yeah, I didn't mean for him. He's just the first guy I wrote about. Fair enough
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There's no ranking. That's what the tiers are for. For those who don't know, I did base this off of, well, I took it over from the guy who
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used to do it, who based it off of Steve Dangles prospect pyramid for the Toronto Maple Leafs
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And, you know, you try to make it your own after that. and the goal for that is there no ranking You just have tiers of where guys could be So Xavier is the first one simply because he is the first one I was thinking about Fair enough
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Yeah. But he's an interesting guy. He is a former first-round pick
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was supposed to be a first-round pick. It's not like the Oilers reached for him
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when they selected him in the 2021 draft. Now, they did pass over some guys that they should have taken
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Yesper Walsstad, cough-cough. but he was generating a lot of buzz in that range where he was selected
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The only problem is he hasn't been able to translate that into the minors
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the minor pro and the pro ranks. So I think in Ottawa he could find that
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I think the Belleville senators have a great opportunity to give him some, you know
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great opportunities, some really good. ice time, some really good linemates. He will be taking over from Robi Yarventi, who was one of their
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top guys. And yeah, I think that could result in a, you know, a strong season and some call-ups
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But it also, he could also flare out very quickly. Yeah, I think maybe I put him first because
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he is the most wild card of the wild cards. I think he could be a top six guy easy. I think he
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could bottom out and be a minor leaguer for his career. Those are both entirely possible
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Yeah, and that description perfectly fits for no reason. But the second player on your list, Jameson Reese, he's one that I've been following since
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you got drafted by the Hurricanes, and I'm a huge fan of this game. What makes you put James and Reese
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I'm not going to ask you about all these players. I'm just going to pick out a couple and see if there's any more you want to just quickly
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touch on. But Jameson Reese, a lot of people just will look at his stats page and say he belongs
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in tier four or five. Why do you have him in tier three? And for the record, I completely agree he
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belongs in tier three, but justify it. Yeah. I'm very similar for Borgo and for Reese. I think
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they're wild cards in the, you know, in the exact definition of that. He was drafted with really high
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potential. He was a second round pick. Injuries played a part in some development stalls. And then last
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season, he didn't play hardly. He wasn't given ice time. He wasn't given opportunities. And it
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really stalled. Sorry, it really stalled his development. He just needs those chances to become
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that player that scouts and fans saw back when he was picked
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blanking on when he was picked, but it was around, I think, 2019
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It was 2019. It was 2019, okay. And actually, Ottawa used, Ottawa swapped picks with the hurricanes to get the Mad Sogird pick
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That's right. Yeah. Fun story with that. They have their pickback, essentially
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And they got it for basically nothing, which is awesome. Yeah, I think in Belleville, just like Borgow, he could find
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that rhythm again could earn some call-ups and could look really good. He has the speed
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he has the offensive abilities, and he's rounded out his game a little bit more than it
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used to be. He also might be just on the downward spin of his career and could become a
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minor leaguer. Good minor leaguer, but I don't know if, you know, there's a guarantee either way
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Yeah, fair enough. The last tier three selection that I'm going to ask you about, you have Tyler
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Cleven and Gabriel Eliasson together for obvious reasons for those who know the prospect
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but just justify why you have them together and into your three
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Yeah, so I think they're very similar players. The way I described Eliasson was he looks like
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if Cleven's like dials were cranked to the extremes. He's way bigger, six foot seven
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he had more penalty minutes and yeah he was averaging a penalty and a half every game
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with his junior team in Sweden his offense though is way weaker
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like that was turned way down and so I see them as very similar players
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kind of like a similar mold just one has more extremes than the other Cleven is much more well-rounded
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and I feel like even when I was writing this I felt like this was my hottest take
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that he's a tier three player But I just don't see him as anything more
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Anything more is maybe a bit harsh. But I don't see him as somebody who could play like a second or third pairing in the
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NHL as a defenseman. He's a perfect third pairing guy. He's got the size
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He's got the physicality. He's got a booming slap shot. That's like a, oh, I'm blanking on his name, Anton Volchenkov, who was a fantastic
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depth defenseman. you want. You don't want to spend, you know, seven, eight million on a guy like that
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I think that's what Cleven is headed for, and he will be a very successful NHLer
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I don't think he's a wild, wild card, but I don't think he tops out as a top
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six or top four guy. Yeah, that's fair. I look at Cleven and I look at his
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defending. He has a lot of the right strategies while he does it. The
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HAL is just so much more chaotic than the NHL. The NHL is so structure-based
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I think that if you watch him in the AHL, you're not going to be as impressed as you will be in the NHL
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And that's maybe my hot take. I don't know if that's much of a hot take, but I think his game in the NHL is going to be better than in the minors
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And I do think that in a pinch, he can be a second-payer defenseman with the right
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Like if you put Clevin and Zub out or Clevin and Nick Jensen, I think that that's going to be more than fine as your second pair behind Sanderson
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and whoever else. but he can't be the go-to guy he just doesn't have the skill set to be
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somebody that you look for for anything other than a hard shot from the point and physicality
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so a third pair spot is the best spot for him and I agree with the comparison to Gabriel Elizon
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is there anybody else you wanted to quickly touch on tier three
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not unless anyone stood out to you yeah there's there's a lot of guys there
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there I think I will throw in one more and that's going to be Javon Moore
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Most people wouldn't expect them to be in Tier 3, especially drafted so late in the draft by the Senators
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and we haven't seen them in place since being drafted. So what makes you throw Jvon Moore in there
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Well, he, to me, is like the perfect description of a boom or bust player
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He's highly athletic. He has high, like he had a team leading 26 goals with his high school
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He's dynamic. He's creative. he could be a potential top six player in the NHL
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He has that ability. But he also is doing this at the high school level
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And you never can really tell what a high school player is once they go on to higher leagues
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So for a fourth round selection, I think the senators could have done a lot worse
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And I think that's probably one of their more interesting picks after the first two rounds
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But yeah, you'll need to really pay attention to him at the University of Minnesota this season to see if he is actually a potential top six guy or is he maybe not quite what everyone expected
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Yeah, we just talked about this on Prospect Corner. I don't know when that episode is going to be released, but coming out of high school was Jonathan Castagna for Utah
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and he jumped into the NCAA and had a phenomenal rookie season
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So is that what's going to happen with Javan Moore? Or is Javon Moore going to end up like a Luke low height and just kind of do fine
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and then just keep doing fine and level out as not much of a prospect
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So I do agree. I think he boom or bust. I think this is going to be a huge season for him
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And I think he, at least for me, he tends towards more that top end guy
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I do see him succeeding in the NCAA. He has that high athleticism that should boost him at least as a freshman and give him that jumpstart to get that
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Oh, goodness. Sorry. No, that's fine. Nice for the cat to say hello
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No kidding. Didn't bother me the entire last podcast. Moving into Tier 4
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There's two players, three players I want to ask you about. Tyler Boucher, he is in Tier 4 as a role player with limited impact
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Former 10th overall pick in 2021. Injuries derailed his career, for sure
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If he was healthy, probably having a totally different conversation. But staying healthy is a skill
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What are your quick thoughts on Boucher? Man, quick is going to be a challenge because I have a lot of thoughts about Boucher
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we've talked at length about he shouldn't have been a tenth overall pick
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I think he's a potential NHLer, but he's a fourth liner. And he hasn't shown anything more than that because he hasn't been able to play
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He just hasn't got ice time. He hasn't healthy, right? He hasn't been on the ice because he hasn't been healthy
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He's been injured or he's been suspended in the OHL. Everything of his career has gone poorly
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and I don't have a lot of confidence in somebody who was picked three years ago
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who will come and wow everybody as like, oh, I'm actually a second line winger and you have nothing to worry about
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Like that, I think that ship is sailed. I think he still could and very well makes the NHL
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And if he stays healthy this season, yeah, I think he has a great rookie season in the AHL
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But he's not going to be a stone. are, he's not going to be a top six guy
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He is a physical bottom line winger. Yeah, fair enough. I don't see a huge path to success, at least in Ottawa
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I feel like the roads just come to an end. I think he might be a good trade bait
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but at the same time he doesn't have much value. So I don't know what you do. But anyway, we're going to move on to Matthew Andanovsky
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I would have Andonovsky in Tier 3. personally, just because I think that he had a fantastic defensive season in the
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OHL with the Kitchen Arrangers, but I do understand having him tier four
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He's one of those players that you could certainly justify either one, but what made you
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put him in Tier 4 over Tier 3? Yeah, I think he had a fantastic season in the OHL last season
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He was one of the, yeah, he led the OHL in plus minus with a plus 58, which, like, that's
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almost Bobby Orr numbers. That's wild. He played big, big minutes. He was widely praised by the OHL coaches
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He is physical. He is a leader. He can do everything. I just don't think he has a super high potential
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I think he probably tops out as, you know, a bottom pairing defenseman
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But like Cleven, a really good bottom pairing defenseman. Like it's a guy that you don't want to get rid of
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and I just think he's not showing that high-end potential that would maybe make Cleven a like
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oh, yes, if you need, he can fill in the second pairing. I don't know if Andanovsky's there
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He could be in the future. Right now, though, I'm a little bit more skeptical of his potential than someone like Cleven
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Yeah, that's fair. I just, I think his defensive abilities are better than Cleven
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He just doesn't have the same physicality level. So I think Cleven is more valuable just with his skill set
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But just strictly looking at the defensive side of things, I would take Andonovsky
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Yeah, it's a fantastic debate to be in. Yeah, that's very true
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So the last player I'm going to ask you about, Gibral-Torriere. So he came into Ottawa's rookie camp last year
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He was just a free agent invite. And he kind of impressed everybody and earned an entry-level contract
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So he's six foot seven. Dorian loved those guys, six foot seven guys
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But what do you see from Toray that puts him in a tier four rather than just a contract that Ottawa has
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Like, do you see actual potential with Toray? Do you see him
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Like, what do you see with him? Yeah, I think this is somebody who would fall into that late bloomer category
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He was not playing like even mid-tier competitively. hockey until he was like 18
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He took a long time to kind of become comfortable in, you know, the six foot seven frame
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that he is. And once he started to get comfortable and was given those opportunities, he thrive
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And he quickly became one of the top free agents of the OHL, in my opinion
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And so he came to the senators. They instantly signed him to a contract because I think he proved that, yeah, I can hang
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with these guys who have contracts already, who are on a path to the NHL
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and he was going toe to toe with those guys. He's also a right shot defenseman
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which makes him a little bit extra more valuable. He unfortunately was moved
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from the Sudbury Wolves to the Windsor Spitfires last season, who were awful
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And that was just the unfortunate situation is he's a respected veteran in the OHL
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but not a playoff acquisition, unfortunately. So, yeah, maybe didn't have a great end to his junior career
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but now he's heading to the HL. And I think he will have, you know
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maybe a little bit of a learning curve more so than some of these other guys we've talked about
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But I see him potentially making the NHL. I don't know what the time frame would be
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but I think he has it in him to eventually become a solid depth NHL player
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Fair enough. Well, I'm going to pass the reins over to you now. You said you have more trivia
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and we don't have a ton to talk about. There's not much Ottawa news going on right now
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So I'm going to hand it over to you, and you can put me in the ringer
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Okay. Well, you guys got rid of a lot of my easy questions
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that I've prepared. Oh, great. Now I'm by myself for the heard ones
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Yeah. Sorry, there's no Paul to help you out today. All good
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So I did look up every first round pick that the senator's made since coming into the NHL
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And there's 36 of them. Yeah. How many do you think you can name
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23. 23? Okay. 23 is my number, I think. Okay. Yeah. I mean, we did talk a lot about them, a lot about them in the prospect pyramid. So whenever you're ready, no time limit on this one
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Okay. How many you can name because they get into the weeds a little bit
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They do. Okay. Don't have to go in order. Don't have to say what position
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Personally, I have to go in order or I'll get lost. Fair enough. Carter Yakumchuk
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Yeah. Tyler Boucher. Yep. Tim Stutzel, Jake Sanderson, Ridley, Greg. Yeah. Lassie Thompson
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Yeah. Brady Kachuk, Jacob Bernard Docker. Logan Brown. Oh, here we go
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Yeah. You're at 2015, if that helps. Yeah. Did I get everybody from 2015 to now
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Um, you missed 2017. I didn't think they had one. I thought Formanton was their first pick in the second round
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There was one guy before. Oh, no. He has done so little in the NHL
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Oh, um, Shane Bowers. There you go. Yeah. Yep. Uh, okay, 2015
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Oh, Thomas Shubach, Colin White. Yep. 2014. Was Shane Prince a first round pick
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He was not. Okay, he was second round then. Yeah. I can let you know they didn have one in 2014 All right But you doing very good so far Yeah and this is where I fall right off
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Cody C.C. wasn't the first. You sure about that? Okay, Cody C.C
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Yeah, he was 15th overall in 2012. Wow. It was Defand Acosta, a first round pick
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no he was a little later okay okay i'm just going to start jumping around now so uh Brian
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barred wow that's the first one that comes to mind um five yeah first overall uh Chris Phillips
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yeah 96 first overall j nope spets uh yeah speta yeah second overall yeah uh yeshian yeah uh yeshian yeah
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That was their very first, first round pick. Was he really? He was, 92, second overall
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Okay. I'm missing some big ones. Oh, Eric Carlson, for sure. Yeah
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Uh. I think you have over half here
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Well, that's good. I'm not. That's. Yeah. still a few big names that that you can get here yeah see they just did so good drafting in the late rounds
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that like i think of mark stone i think of daniel alfredson um
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um pajo wasn't first round no he was third i think something like that yeah uh uh
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2000. I did mention one of these guys already in the podcast
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Yeah. Okay. You know what? You said his name and I was like, I know that that's going to come up later
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Didn't intend that. You can think about some of the big trades that the senators did
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Most of those with former first round picks. They didn't draft tourists
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They didn't draft. So do I have everybody up to 2013? Yes
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You just don't have 2013. Yeah. How many games did he play in the NHL
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I'm not sure of that, but I believe his most recent team was the Devils
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Oh, Curtis Lazare. Yep. Yeah. Okay. So 2012, I got. 2011. There was three
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Three. Three first round picks in 2011. Were they all good? Were any of them good
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One of them was good. Oh, Mika Zabanajad? Yep. He had three that year
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I did. I can't get Stefan de Costa out of my head
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And I don't know why, because I haven't thought of him in years. Was Bobby Butler a first round pick
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no no he was a little later what a poll Bobby Butler
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was he he was drafted by the senators yes yeah he didn't play very much with them
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I don't think he ever played an NHL game with them no he did a couple of seasons okay
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oh and he wasn't drafted by the senators he was signed by the senators Okay
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Yeah, that's where my confusion was coming. Okay. All right, I think, give me the rest
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and we'll move on to one more question before we run out of time here. Okay
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So, working backwards, 2011, you missed Stefan Nosen, or Nason, sorry, and Matt Pumple
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Oh, Matt Pemple. Oh, Matt Pemple, yeah. I should have got those
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Yeah, Nason at least played decent NHL games. Pemple, not so much
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He's still doing great in the NHL, too. Yeah, yeah, solid guy
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2009, Jared Cowan, big guy who didn't really pan out. 2007, Jim O'Brien, 29th overall
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2006, Nick Falino, 2005, Brian Lee. Just a fantastic run of guys with Falino in there
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2004, Andre Mazzaros, 2003, Patrick Eves. 2002, Jakob Cleppes. 2001, Tim Gleason
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Oh, I could have got Tim Gleason. 23rd overall, which I didn't know
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1999, you got 2000, 2001. Martin Havlat was 26. Okay. 1998 was one of the weirder picks
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Matthew Schoenard, 15th overall, goalie. Right. They picked him twice, actually. And he never played a game for them
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Yeah, they wouldn't pay him. So he's like, I'll just reenter the draft. And they repicked him anyways
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And it's like, well, now you can. be a second rounder because that's where we took you. Yeah. Yeah. What a jerk move
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97, Marion Hosa, 94, Radic Bonf, and 1993, the most infamous of all, Alexander Deg
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Oh, I should have got Deg. I should have had most of those. Okay, we got two minutes. Give me another
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question really quick. Two minutes. Okay. I'm going to wrap it forward to this one. Okay. Embarrass myself
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So, here's a tricky one for you. There's only eight answers. The senators picked, well, they traded away several first round picks in the last several years
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Can you name who were picked by those picks they traded away
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Nope. Bone by. Bowen by. Yeah, in 2019, that was for Matt Dushan
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Can you give me the pick? Yes. So this year, they traded away 25th overall
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Wasn't their original pick, but they did have it. They traded that for all. Dean Latorno
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Yes. Last year, they traded away the 11th overall to Arizona for Jacob Chikrin
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Daniel Boo. Yep. The year before, they traded away the seventh overall to Chicago
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Pavelman, Chicago. No. Kevin Korsinski. Yep. You had the right position. In 2018, they traded to the, they traded their 22nd overall pick to the New York Rangers
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John Gre Miller. Yeah, that was kind of involved with the Brassard thing
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Yeah. Yeah, also added Johnny Tichonic with that as well. 2014, this was the pick they used to acquire Bobby Ryan
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But overall, what was it? 10th. No. Oh, no. Uh, Nick Ritchie
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Ah, wouldn't I get that. Yeah. See, I was going to say Jack Silverberg, but Ottawa traded him to them
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Yeah. Didn't really pan out, unfortunately. Um, they traded the 16th overall pick to St. Louis for David Runblad
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Yeah, that's Teresanko. That is the Teresanko pick. Well, they made it all right in the end, right
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Yeah. And then the first one I could find was they traded the 26th overall pick to the New York Islanders for Chris Campoli and Eric Mike Comrie
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Yeah. Which then was then flipped to Columbus and then Anaheim and Anaheim
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Oh, no. Is that 2008? I believe so, yes. Because I think that was how they got the Eric Carlson pick eventually, maybe
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I might be wrong. Might be. I have no idea. Sorry, 2009 is actually the pick
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I forgot to right on here on my list. Okay. Kyle Palmyri
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Ah, okay. Yeah. Well, everyone could have been a senator. I did all right
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I did all right with that one. But that's going to wrap things up for today
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We're about to run out of time here. So thanks everybody for tuning in. Hopefully you did better than I did in trivia, and we'll see you next time
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Thank you
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