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CHAPTERS:
00:34 - Wallo’s Discipline
06:47 - Protecting Imagination
14:47 - Power of Words
22:13 - Importance of Forgiveness
23:20 - Understanding Revenge
25:40 - Breaking the Cycle of Violence
27:54 - Caller Interactions
30:40 - Caller Insights
34:14 - Wallow's Impact on Lives
37:34 - Violence in Hip-Hop Culture
41:03 - Lessons from Incarceration
42:49 - Walo’s Final Thoughts
45:10 - Kendrick Super Bowl Controversy
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clap him up
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torch this is the standing ovation this
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man deserves right here that's the
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standing ovation this man right here
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let's stand up for this man let's stand
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up for this Beacon of light let's stand
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up for this Vanguard let's stand up for
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this leader right here let's stand up
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for this Oracle right here let's stand
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up for this activist right here let's
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stand up for this author right here
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let's stand up for this man who has the
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key to the city right here let's stand
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up for him stand up for give it up for
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wallow
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267 yes
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yes you are proof you are living
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proof whether you realize it or not I
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saw it in you when I first saw you
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running up to the camera in the rain in
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the we hours of the morning and I
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believe only you and I on the planet
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were awake at those hours that that's
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the truth I think I I believe that a lot
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of people didn't uh they don't get up
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like they don't get up and every moment
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every word you utilize had purpose it
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was armed with good intentions yes
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before the book was even written this is
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the path you have been on I say you're a
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beacon of light because you're a living
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example in our community we Face a lot
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of Wars we believe our biggest war is
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with systems whether it's the education
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system whether it's the the health
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system whether it's the legal system but
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you have shown and demonst that the
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biggest war that you need to win at
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every single day is the battle with
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yourself every day you display
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discipline wallow that ain't easy to do
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every day you stay on purpose wallo and
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all your intentions are for the better
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good of the whole so I say to you
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congratulations apprciate you my brother
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and everything you receive you have
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earned and you deserve and you that
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person in this culture that I never
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doubt yes even when you call me yes and
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I might have convers with people and you
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have questions about what was you
2:02
thinking big bro when you was having
2:04
these question and we've had these
2:07
conversations and that only deepen my
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love for you and what you're doing for
2:11
our community This Is Bigger Than Rap
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yes it's bigger than the podcast yes
2:15
it's bigger than the headlines yes what
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you're doing you're saving lives and
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you're teaching people how to live their
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lives even having gone through
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incarceration or whatever it is they
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face salute my brother I have nothing
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but ultimate respect absolutely same all
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you know what's crazy I was getting up
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this morning I'm telling my manager
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desire she like why you in the I said we
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got to get there early right so she like
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only thing I remember rest in peace to
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P&B Rock one day I'm in the car with P&B
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rock this when I first that's when I
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first come home so we in New York and
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and they supposed to come to sway and he
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was a little little late they said sway
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cancelled I said I'm talking about every
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time your name I said I got to be there
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early I'm going there early I want to be
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there half an hour 45 minutes early I
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never forgot that yeah said damn he's
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and I never I never forgot I said oh I
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can't be playing no games sway you got
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to respect that well you respect time
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yes I got to mhm right we ain't going to
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be here forever and you look at time
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differently I got to cuz your time
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wasn't your own at one point yeah it
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wasn't it wasn't you know sitting in
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that cell you just be like damn the time
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just be going by going by you looking on
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the TV life changing technology coming
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you know you calling home what's the
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name yeah what's the name graduate
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college damn they was just in
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kindergarten yeah like life leave you
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like and I don't think a lot of people
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like a lot of people and that's why I
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just be trying to tell people on
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Instagram like your [ __ ] life you
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know why you sitting up here worrying
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about some people you're never going to
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meet how they feel about you and they
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don't even they don't even believe in
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they self you talking about the ones
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that hit like yes or dislike don't like
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or don't even hit nothing they just be
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gossiping around the neighborhood about
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you that's our culture our culture is
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let's talk about each other about
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nothing like it ain't getting let's just
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talk about each other and that's the
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culture we got to start understanding uh
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what took place with us mentally and
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just be embracing and say damn I got to
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keep going no matter what cuz if you
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don't keep going you'll get caught up in
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all this the rhetoric and all the stuff
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and all the hate and man whatever you
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really got to get up a day and and
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realize that today you might check the
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[ __ ] out of here you don't know we just
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lost some friends you what I mean I'm
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going show you some this this is my
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favorite uh Wall's going in this phone
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this my favorite this my favorite
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website in the world it's called Uh come
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on y service better be good
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service it's a tech company with bad
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service so so so I'm going show you'all
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this this is World meters right this my
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favorite website watch this I look at
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this like every morning world medas is
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important because World Med is so real
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time and as you can see sway uh you can
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see real time now now read down the list
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different joints look at real time
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current world population is 8 billion
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175 million but it's moving moving yeah
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the ticker is going up one two three
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it's just people being born all the time
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birth this year 91 how many people died
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today oh my
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78,500 you want to play it like take
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care of yourself first we forget about
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that cuz we talking about balance I
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don't believe in balance for me right
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now because I had all the balance I need
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when I was sitting in that cell I was
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balancing that cell how many years 20
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years 7,300 days outside of the five
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years I did it inside the juvenile so
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that's 25 I'm only 45 I spent most of my
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life inside of sales you spent more time
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in behind bars than you have free yeah
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so so you think I'm I can't deal with
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balance I everybody else got that but
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listen we got to get up out of this
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joint one day yeah mhm and my concern
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while I'm here I'm trying to do things
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that's why I'm here so I could I could I
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could outlive what I lived see that's
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when you really did some real [ __ ] when
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you outlive how you live when you
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outlive what you live meaning if you 75
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you die when you could live 100 years
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after your death based off of the
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contributions to the planet ah I see
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what you mean so even beyond your
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Michael X Michael m michaelm x yeah
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Martin Luther King Marcus Garvey uhuh
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Harriet Tubman you know book T so they
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live way longer and that's when you know
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you did some extraordinary [ __ ] we be on
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we be on the plan talking about I'm this
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I'm that I be like you ain't nothing to
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you got to die when you die and you and
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you still living double your life or or
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what your life was when you then you
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living that's life wall was here man I
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love that can I read something out of go
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ahead because I wonder uh you know I'm a
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part of The Last Mile the program we
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teach coding and we go into the systems
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yeah it's beautiful and and I look at
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some of these brothers that I I get a
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chance to talk to in their everyday
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battles and then I look at some of the
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younger folks who brag about being
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incarcerated like it wear it as a badge
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of honor and I was in your
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book and one of the things you said arm
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with good intentions is a phrase that is
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now part of my daily Arsenal I'm going
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skip for the most part the nut ass
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decision I made in the past the crimes
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that kept me hostage in severe
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consequential spaces for the better part
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of my life were all driven by good
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intention
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in one form or another yes I wanted the
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material things that garnered attention
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especially from the women but also
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wanted to be the man of the house and
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help provide for my family and others I
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always wanted to be a part of something
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bigger and better than what I learned to
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Cru streets of Philly is but those were
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all the reasons I needed to involve
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myself in stupid [ __ ] and try to be
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something other than who I was meant to
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be there were days I wanted to give up
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let my mind slip quit or
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worse in those days what did you lean on
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I leaned on the moments that I felt like
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that and I got through it and I got
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through it again okay and I did a video
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I was talking about that when you hit
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when you hit them Heart Rock by moments
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and you feel like giving up you got to
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connect with that moment that you felt
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like that before and you got through it
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and you got to get through it again cuz
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it's all these moments that we have in
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our life where we feel like oh this over
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I can't I just you just feel like you
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just feel defeated where as though you
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would have abandoned your dreams you
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would abandoned everything you had one
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thing about prison that it did for me
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that it didn't did that that the
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advantage that I had over people that
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was Liv in the Free World prison
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fortified and protected my imagination
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so when I went in 17 and I came out 37 I
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still had a childhood imagination yeah
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see if I was out here living if I
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probably had baby mama issues getting
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shot and lost a all these ups and downs
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of of of Life the ups and downs of Life
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deteriorate imagination that's why you
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see people oh I'm 40 a like I just told
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a sister yesterday at over at charlot I
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said listen you're 30 years old life
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just start chill don't be going off oh
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they said you got to do this you got you
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got to do what you got to do what the
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[ __ ] you want to do when you want to do
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it don't don't locking in based off of
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age BR you can't I'm 45 years old and
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I'm out here getting busy getting busy
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I'm getting busy so so to the people
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that's out there y'all looking at like
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you know the biggest haters in the world
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is self is self self hate self is the
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biggest hate and what I'm saying it is
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you'll think about an idea then you
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think about five ideas that think you
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out of the idea that you would you you
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like every time you come up with
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something you be hating on your idea you
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be hating on you you will finesse
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yourself oh no I can't oh about some
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stuff and it ain't got nothing to do
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with nobody outse out of you I don't
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care what nobody opinion is nobody
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opinion to be that much powerful to stop
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you from breathing and stop you for
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putting putting a beneath the wings of
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your dreams so what I realized I said
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damn the biggest haters people got is
9:50
thems self haate they're the biggest
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haters like you really got you really
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got to be crazy and weird out here to
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make it happen in the black community
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and that's the only that I won cuz I
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came home and I said oh okay I got him I
10:04
remember I never never forgot I was in
10:07
my middle room shout out to nanny nanny
10:08
be 90 years old this year hey Nanny this
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month my grandma Nanny we see you Nanny
10:13
you believe Nanny always told me I was
10:15
crazy Nanny read Danny read this book
10:17
like a day she said she said [ __ ] you
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was doing a lot of crazy [ __ ] I knew you
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was crazy but I didn't know but you what
10:23
she read what you was doing she she read
10:24
some more she said she so so so NY was
10:28
like you was really but she knew I was
10:29
crazy but not that but at the end of the
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day it was like she walking past the
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room I'm living in the middle room right
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and I I made it I got pared to that
10:37
house rest in peace in my Ruby she died
10:38
in that room so I'm I'm sitting in the
10:40
room I got my twin siiz bed I'm happier
10:42
than ever so I'm in there laughing and
10:44
Annie would walked by and wouldn't be no
10:46
TV or nothing on she was
10:48
like boy you crazy what you laughing
10:51
about I said I'm just laughing and the
10:52
reason I was laughing because I would be
10:54
getting messages and I be hearing back
10:56
about people in the neighborhood people
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that knew me people that you know I
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thought we was solid W went crazy that
11:02
[ __ ] came home running down the street
11:04
this when I knew I had him they said
11:06
that I went crazy because I came home
11:08
I'm running down the street I'm doing
11:09
videos I'm I'm I'm putting power to our
11:11
people just trying to tell them you
11:12
could do it whatever and I said damn I
11:14
got him I said nobody's going to be in
11:16
my way cuz I said for y'all to say I'm
11:18
crazy that I came home and I'm not I'm
11:21
not doing nothing crazy but if I was
11:23
selling dope y'all salute me yeah if I
11:25
was shoo [ __ ] y'all salute me if I was
11:27
tearing down the neighborhood I'd be
11:28
cool
11:29
but just because I said no I don't want
11:31
to Doone of that sh he's crazy I said
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okay I got him I said by time they wake
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up and realize what I'm doing it's going
11:37
to be too late and I'm be out of here
11:38
yeah I'm going to be on another planet
11:40
and now I'm pretty sure you see a bunch
11:42
of wallow all over Instagram now oh it's
11:43
a thousand wallow they thought it was
11:45
crazy so so so my whole thing is like
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one thing about our community if you
11:49
could operate without having to hit all
11:53
the boxes and the check boxes of what
11:54
being black posed to be in the hood cuz
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there a bunch of [ __ ] that mean you
11:58
can't think for yourself mhm in order to
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hit all these boxes I can't think
12:02
outside of the box oh I can't do this I
12:04
can't wear this I can't go here I can't
12:05
say this oh I'm not black my black card
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is reok what is the Black Card what is
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that the black card to me is a person
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that understand where they come from
12:14
understand who did extraordinary things
12:16
and you connect with that like I said we
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build pyramides with no crane yeah
12:20
Harriet tugman did some gorilla that
12:24
that was like like like like like in
12:25
that type of way she didn't have no GPS
12:27
n she didn't have no Tech
12:33
had atend day we got and damn we great I
12:37
know listen I read all the books when I
12:38
was in The Joint yeah message of black
12:40
man solidad Brothers uh blood in my eyes
12:43
SM the set by the door all the overhead
12:45
was doing like this give me so I know I
12:47
know who we is yeah yeah a lot and so
12:49
people didn't understand damn W woke up
12:51
in the drama my alarm clock came on and
12:53
it was game time yeah and I said when I
12:55
get out here I'm going to run laps
12:57
around people because most people in
12:59
streets there's more people incarcerated
13:00
in the Free World than it is
13:02
incarcerated
13:03
mentally speak to it they prison it's a
13:06
mental thing they lock their self up I
13:08
can't do this I can't go there I'm too
13:11
old oh why how why nobody would support
13:14
me what man listen I look at this joint
13:16
like it's 8 billion people on this
13:18
planet give me 250,000 I I can work with
13:21
that wall was here man this is powerful
13:24
the book listen if out right now
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everywhere books are sold if you hear my
13:28
voice mhm M armed with good intentions
13:31
by wallow 267 is everywhere MH Amazon
13:36
everywhere everywhere shout out and
13:37
shout out to my writer Raquel da Zeus
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and also shout out to aana vanan for
13:41
doing the forward she did the forward
13:43
mama vanan she did but no she didn't
13:46
just do the forward let me let me give
13:47
you thing when she gave me the for I
13:49
went down to her house and I listen and
13:52
you know what I should have been greedy
13:53
today they they made this foood right I
13:55
was trying to be humble you it I already
13:58
know like know so so they got the it was
14:00
it was these it was these oh man these
14:02
these strips and the the gravy the it
14:04
was just unbelievable right but you know
14:05
it's people there so you don't want to
14:07
keep asking I wanted to go in my jail Jo
14:08
and keep doubling up right but the food
14:11
was delicious the food was delicious she
14:12
sat me down and she read me the forward
14:15
oh my go she had it in the paper read it
14:17
to me gave it to me and then then when I
14:20
you know it was time for me to do the
14:21
audio board she did it that day wow and
14:24
I used to read her book acts of faith
14:26
every day in the feel like though bro it
14:28
was on I was star strugging it was just
14:30
like damn but it's like you know you
14:31
going to you going to your mom crib your
14:33
grandma crib but that food was I should
14:35
have doubled up have done that I know
14:37
how you do you probably would put
14:38
everything on the same plate in my pile
14:40
y I like everything to touch each other
14:41
I know that's that's so so operate the
14:43
different flavors some institutional Liv
14:45
I like that okay all right he's still
14:47
working on that part Tracy
14:49
go wallo you are the epitome of
14:52
resilience my guy it is always a
14:54
pleasure to hear from you to see you
14:57
this book has to be in every everyone's
14:59
possession armed with good intentions um
15:01
when you spoke about and it's so ironic
15:03
how 20 years right but you said it
15:06
helped to preserve your imagination and
15:08
it brought me to a chapter in the book
15:10
where you talked about um how you would
15:12
flip through dictionaries right and how
15:16
vocabulary is really what introduced you
15:19
to Liberation and I feel like helped of
15:21
your imagination just learning new words
15:23
like ravenous like reflection and not
15:26
just learning a definition but seeing
15:28
how they've played role in your life can
15:30
you talk about the power of words
15:33
because when you just shared with us
15:34
right now how we often like limit
15:36
ourselves as black people I think about
15:38
how we've done that a lot with our
15:40
vernacular you know there is many a time
15:42
where it's like if you had certain words
15:44
that you said it's like okay this
15:46
proximity to whiteness who you trying to
15:47
be you know when it comes to education
15:50
but you can learn more about yourself
15:52
you can learn more about the healing
15:54
that needs to happen etc etc just
15:57
through language please St right when I
15:59
was in jail right it was everything one
16:02
thing I me me you know I knew if my
16:04
vernacular was spectacular I was going
16:05
to win I knew that and I one thing I
16:08
know about our culture this is what I
16:10
know it's a
16:12
uniform and it's you got to be a
16:14
translater in order to connect with
16:15
people of all generations and I knew
16:18
when I was sitting in that cell I used
16:19
to walk back read the words and I used
16:21
to had conversations whereas though the
16:22
guard probably walk past the cell and be
16:24
like he's going crazy cuz I'm walking
16:26
back preparing for future conversations
16:28
that I have with people when I see them
16:30
whatever but I knew one thing and this
16:32
is this is this is a global thing if you
16:35
could speak well you going to eat well
16:36
and you definitely going to sleep well
16:38
the mouthpiece is everything and the
16:39
look is the hook so if you look
16:41
presentable and and it's and it's a
16:43
uniform that you got aware that that I
16:46
understood that the uniform and being
16:49
able to speak in a different way and
16:51
translate in a different way you could
16:52
tap into every generation in a nanc this
16:55
[ __ ] is about nanc messaging out here
16:57
you got to be able to first in order for
16:59
people to be receptive first instance
17:01
you got to gra you got to be able to get
17:02
it and and one thing I knew I knew when
17:04
I came across that screen and I put that
17:06
tripod up and my body language mixed
17:08
with the energy I need I need listen I
17:10
was battling with the timeline this is
17:12
what I said okay this timeline got the
17:15
chick that's butt necked you got the
17:16
dude with a bunch of jeury you got the
17:18
rapper you got the athl you got all that
17:19
I said okay I got to battle with them so
17:20
I'm going to run across this Expressway
17:22
when it's 18 Willer is coming it's going
17:23
to look like this going to hit me but
17:24
it's not and I'mma do my video I'mma lay
17:27
down on this ground with this ketchup on
17:28
my head and I'm tell you don't wait
17:29
until it's too late don't wait till the
17:30
Amber land's getting closer but you feel
17:32
like it's getting farther because you
17:33
checking out to thank God or the one to
17:35
change y'all laughed and said oh he's
17:37
crazy got ketchup on his head it don't
17:38
matter I'm battling attention attention
17:40
and traffic is currency I'm talking
17:42
about real money you you can monetize
17:44
traffic and I said okay let me look at
17:46
this I'm looking at this from a
17:47
marketing perspective because I'm I'm a
17:49
marketer so I'm like damn okay I'm GNA
17:52
kill she butt necked but they see her
17:54
too much they don't see too many dudes
17:55
laying on the ground with ketchup and
17:56
might he might got shot in his head they
17:58
don't don't see that they don't see some
17:59
dudes running across the expressway all
18:01
right let me run across the expressway
18:02
right next to the eagle stadium so you
18:04
can see the lights the backdrop I'mma
18:06
put this tripod right here when that 18
18:07
Willer come you gonna see it shaking
18:09
it's goingon to shake the tripod a
18:10
little bit and I'mma get and I'm G get
18:11
my message off damn W crazy you talking
18:13
about good morning he almost got hit I
18:15
ain't worrying about I almost got hit
18:16
I'm worrying about the the information
18:18
that I'mma give you based off the
18:19
attention I got to grab your attention
18:21
one thing I learned about our community
18:22
is two ways it's either going to be some
18:24
some crazy stuff or if you can make him
18:26
laugh you can make him listen I grew up
18:27
listening to Richard I up listening to
18:29
Red Fox I grew up listening to Paul
18:31
Moody because my uncle used to play the
18:32
records in the house why you think a lot
18:34
of my stuff people always laughing with
18:35
me and Gil but if you slay back and Peep
18:37
the science we laying it on them y we
18:39
laying it on them like you going to take
18:41
it how you want to but one thing I
18:43
learned about in the black community and
18:44
this why I try to teach the I always try
18:46
to teach my nephews the young kids I run
18:47
to them I be like cut that cool [ __ ] out
18:49
cool gonna have you broke cool the only
18:51
person in the black community in the
18:52
history of life that ever got paid for
18:54
being cool was Billy D Williams all that
18:56
cool [ __ ] and tough [ __ ] is going to
18:57
have you somewhere man
18:59
so you better figure out who you are and
19:00
you better figure out how to live you
19:02
better figure out to say you know what
19:04
what are your dreams and go after that
19:06
[ __ ] they going to laugh but most of the
19:07
people laugh they laughing because they
19:08
nervous and they laughing because they
19:09
scared because they're like damn you
19:10
ready be out of here and I ain't doing
19:12
[ __ ] with my life most people that's
19:14
going to critique you I never seen
19:16
nobody that said something about me that
19:17
was doing anything that I did that did
19:18
anything half of what I did for the
19:20
community so you just got to deal with
19:22
it be like you know what all right
19:23
that's cool I ain't paying them no
19:25
attention and keep moving but I know one
19:27
thing when you got that mouthpiece and
19:30
one thing we know in he
19:32
this nanny I'm doing an interview Nanny
19:36
huh I'm doing an interview Nanny okay
19:38
hey Nanny hey hi nanny nanny they say hi
19:41
Nanny hi
19:43
Nanny hi hey Nanny I told that's that's
19:46
a bunch of my friends at the Radio St I
19:48
told him about when you read the book
19:49
that you didn't know I was doing all
19:51
that all that stuff can you be on Chanel
19:54
29 today no tomorrow
19:56
Nanny on channel 29 yeah I think that's
20:03
tomorrow she didn't get time I'll be on
20:06
I'll be on there tomorrow Nanny I'm all
20:08
right hey Nanny and and then we we're
20:10
filming him today so you'll be able to
20:12
watch you on this video talking they
20:16
filming me today right now
20:19
okay you ask all right n nny don't want
20:23
to snitch she said call back no it ain't
20:26
nothing yo this is amazing wall we going
20:29
to open up these phone lines too yes
20:31
let's get it I want to read some more
20:33
from your book okay and um we asked
20:36
people who feel like they're having a
20:38
Time transitioning back to civilian life
20:40
to call up and tell their stories and
20:42
maybe you could give them some insight
20:44
and inspiration 888 742 3345 we got
20:48
wallow here wallow 2 267 armed with good
20:52
intention is his book and that third
20:55
verse oh you got another
20:57
call Hey listen I'm I'm right here I'm
21:00
right here with uh yo I'm right here
21:02
with sway Gilly what up baby what's up
21:06
S hey hey Gil hey Gil why they keep
21:09
challenging you on the court I'm a
21:11
Believer man why they keep doing that
21:13
Gil I mean you know sometimes you know
21:17
they they want to test a hand you know
21:18
what I'm saying then you just gotta
21:20
spank up and let know that you know I'm
21:23
still your father I'm father hey brother
21:27
we St we're super proud of you the
21:29
adventures are amazing all the work you
21:32
guys are doing and the best part of it
21:34
man you bring a community together and
21:36
we having a good time I appreciate you
21:38
man come on and you're doing it with
21:40
your family what's
21:42
that oh come
21:44
on I'mma call you when I'm done man all
21:48
right he crazy man yeah he crazy salute
21:50
to Gilly and then and even with Gilly
21:53
you guys have been so transparent with
21:56
your lives that I want to say thank you
21:59
yes because you've shared the good times
22:01
and you shared the pain and we we seen
22:04
seen him walk through losing one of his
22:07
children and and you having to tell him
22:09
and that part is powerful we have we
22:13
have Benny Seagull up here yeah and I
22:16
shout see shout out to se and I asked
22:18
him a question about forgiveness and
22:20
when I listened to that song and kendri
22:23
is interpolating what he would feel nipy
22:26
would say and he talks about
22:29
forgiving the person that brought him to
22:30
his untimely demise you talk about
22:34
forgiveness I want to read from your
22:37
book I had to forgive somebody that took
22:40
a father from my niece and nephew took a
22:42
son from my mother a grandson my brother
22:45
I wanted to do this because I knew there
22:46
was so many people who who were
22:49
overdosing on those potent drugs called
22:51
uh resentment and revenge to avoid
22:53
feeling the sobering pain of grief I
22:56
made a promise to myself to not seek
22:58
vengeance on the man who took my brother
23:00
it helped that I would never know who it
23:02
was and I think it was incredibly
23:03
helpful because not knowing forced me to
23:05
deal with the vulnerability of pain
23:07
without the distraction before I forgave
23:09
my brother's
23:11
killer I like a lot of people believe
23:13
that forgiving people felt like letting
23:15
someone off the hook like I was letting
23:17
someone get away with something MH you
23:19
changed that mindset yeah you know you
23:22
know what's crazy revenge is King in the
23:24
hood yeah and it's like I ain't never
23:26
seen nobody that that that that that s
23:28
Revenge won I never seen nobody win they
23:31
just be mad they be upset they be some
23:33
of them get in prison some of them lose
23:35
their life so it was like a lot of times
23:37
we always talking about I'm going die
23:38
for you I said no I'm G live for these
23:39
babies I gotta live for my grandma I got
23:41
to live for the family I ain't trying to
23:43
die for you bro I love you but why why
23:45
what what what good do it good if I die
23:48
too and I just lead a family you said
23:51
when I did it I realize forgiveness was
23:53
a gift I gave to myself yep because it
23:56
freed me to move on with my life I gave
23:58
myself permission to live yeah what
24:01
advice would you give to people in our
24:03
nebor in our communities just based on
24:05
your experience you're not telling them
24:06
what to do but what would you offer them
24:08
when it comes to forgiveness you know it
24:10
seemed like um the generation in the
24:13
ghetto today is going to kill each other
24:16
off because it's like everybody want to
24:18
get back everybody want and it's like
24:20
this [ __ ] is really ain't about nothing
24:22
cuz you shooting in the mirror yeah and
24:24
it and it's sad cuz you know I done been
24:25
on these Corners man all times a day and
24:28
night with these young boys and they got
24:30
you know guns longer than elephant trunk
24:32
on eight weeks and I'm just talking to
24:34
them and the part that I see be so
24:36
different I'm the you know when I go to
24:38
the corner store and they there they
24:40
laughing oh you crazy as [ __ ] man I I
24:43
cook you and Gill but but we and you see
24:45
this kid Mo you see this moment that
24:46
nobody else see because everything is
24:49
everything is they always got to be on
24:50
defense and they be like damn man what
24:52
switch it up I didn't had young boy
24:53
straight tell me listen I love you I
24:56
love what you do but that's gonna be for
24:57
my kid I'm rocking
24:59
out I'm going to the casket drop I got
25:02
you on they killed so and so and I you
25:04
know you you you can't tell nobody how
25:06
to feel but you only share your story
25:07
like I always share my story so they can
25:09
learn from my story don't live my story
25:11
and just to having the conversation is
25:12
good enough for me because I'm just be
25:14
like and I always tell the youngest I
25:15
say listen nef if you could just wait
25:18
until your alarm clock come on because
25:21
you 16 17 18 right now you hit 25 your
25:25
alarm clock you might be somewhere else
25:26
you might be if y'all can just get to
25:28
that one part where where life is just
25:30
so different where you like oh no I'm
25:31
done with that dumb [ __ ] and you could
25:32
just see it cuz right now you can't see
25:34
it enough you just living in it you you
25:36
know you on your drugs you got your gun
25:37
you just like you just like [ __ ] it but
25:40
if you could get to that point you know
25:41
everybody got to get to that point where
25:43
the alarm clock come in and I like and I
25:45
just be wanting to see it like even for
25:46
me I'm like damn there's so many of my
25:48
homeboys that never got to the point
25:50
like I always be driving around or
25:52
somewhere and I like I always tell
25:53
people when I drive through Philly I
25:55
know so many people from so many
25:56
different neighborhoods I drive through
25:58
a neighborhood and I'll be in the car
25:59
and I be like damn look at boo boo right
26:01
there look at black I'm looking at
26:03
everybody but as I'm breaking down the
26:05
corner that's a totally different street
26:07
corner than my corner but it's people
26:09
that I know I'm breaking down the corner
26:10
I just broke down seven dudes that if I
26:13
told you if I'm pointing at them seven
26:15
dudes while we in the car You' be like
26:16
wower what you talking about I see dead
26:19
people I'm just describing the
26:20
neighborhood as I know it and who used
26:22
to be standing right there and I do this
26:24
from neighborhood to Neighborhood to
26:25
Neighborhood to Neighborhood you can
26:27
still see them and and now but now I got
26:29
to run into these dudes kids and I got
26:32
dudes in my age bracket that's that's
26:34
not where I'm at mentally and they
26:36
telling them man you just like your dad
26:37
I'm like yo don't be like your dad your
26:39
dad ain't win man NE if your dad died or
26:41
went to the penitentiary for life stop
26:43
telling stop telling NE he just like his
26:45
dad his dad ain't never winning this
26:46
[ __ ] nobody never won like I'm sitting
26:49
here and I just try to tell dudes like
26:50
listen there's another way the Ingenuity
26:52
that we got in the street culture if you
26:54
take that and switch that [ __ ] up you
26:55
could do anything cuz right now we got
26:57
the most Fearless young black males in
26:58
the history of Life they don't give a
27:00
[ __ ] so now imagine they take that
27:02
energy and put it in the sports put it
27:04
in the art put it in their music put it
27:05
in their stuff put it to stem yeah I'm
27:07
talking put it the stem because I always
27:09
believe this I was just telling my
27:11
manager I said I got to figure something
27:12
out I got to put like 100 kids in the
27:13
class cuz I'm I'm looking at these
27:15
little kids and I'm like hold up if you
27:17
could play the game you can Master the
27:18
game we got to find out how you can make
27:19
the game because they love these games
27:21
Ro I'm like damn I'm like you know I sat
27:24
down one time since I've been home
27:25
played the little one I'm like I didn't
27:27
know what the [ __ ] was going on in the
27:28
game yeah I just know he had like 10,000
27:30
points I had like two so it was like
27:32
damn they mastering this [ __ ] so it's
27:34
like how do we how do we learn how to do
27:36
that how do we learn how to teach them
27:37
how to build these apps and tap and tick
27:39
because they know how to do the phone
27:40
from the rip yeah they know how to do
27:42
the tablet from the rip so but when I'm
27:44
looking at these youngers in the street
27:45
it's like they already in the blood game
27:47
and it's like damn NE and then you go to
27:50
the funerals you see I been to so many
27:51
funerals it's crazy man yeah man um wall
27:54
267 with that reality rap armed with
27:57
good intentions look into forgiveness
28:00
it's a powerful thing yes we we all have
28:02
to deal with it we got a lot of people
28:04
on the phone lines okay let's go to it
28:06
Dave in New York go ahead say what up to
28:08
wallow Dave welcome to the show Dave hey
28:11
good morning everybody how y'all doing
28:12
again excellent exell what's your
28:14
question all right my question is this
28:17
first like myself I like yourself I did
28:19
24 years in New York state right welc
28:21
and when I came when I came home um I've
28:24
been home for a minute but when I came
28:25
home I found myself going through a lot
28:27
of you was doing people thinking I was
28:29
crazy because we was thinking different
28:31
or we was moving different and my
28:33
question to you is um do you have a
28:36
forum where or a platform where people
28:40
like-minded people who have came home
28:42
and and I'm not just talking about
28:43
anybody who get dead time but people who
28:45
came home and on some positive stuff do
28:48
you have a forum where people can
28:49
actually um contact and and or get
28:53
together and express themselves because
28:55
there's not people out here we're not
28:57
different but we don't the same way and
28:59
you're ostracized sometimes in society
29:02
and you have to have like let's say like
29:04
a support based kind of of individuals
29:07
that went through what you went through
29:08
but they came home on some different
29:10
stuff not on the knucklehead stuff you
29:11
know crazy question to I never had a uh
29:14
platform and none of that for that you
29:15
know I think therapy is the greatest
29:17
thing you could do but that's something
29:18
bro you got to start when we come up
29:21
with these ideas we got to start them
29:22
get get two three brothers start meeting
29:24
up and as new brothers come home start
29:26
meeting up get the pamphlets in the
29:27
prisons in the state prisons in New York
29:29
and start meeting up start connecting it
29:31
could be it could be you know how we
29:32
connected in the prison yard you go lift
29:34
your weights and then y'all walk the
29:35
track talking about sports you talk
29:37
about politics you talk it's the same
29:38
way take a playground and sit there and
29:40
kick it right wow and then it'll go from
29:42
y'all kicking it to the little kids just
29:44
sitting there listening you know I mean
29:45
y'all bring your sons just get together
29:48
like we don't have we don't have you
29:49
remember back in the day I don't know I
29:51
know back in the day in Philly they used
29:52
to had the gang the gang reunions like
29:54
with the old heads that was in gangs and
29:55
[ __ ] and they and through the reunions
29:57
they bring their fames there too like
29:58
the kids and they so everybody know each
30:00
other so nobody be going through it
30:02
later on in Life or whatever but the
30:04
same way is it start with just two
30:06
people like I ain't gonna hold you homie
30:08
I came home and I just took the phone
30:10
and I said let me do this I ain't know
30:11
what I was doing right I just know that
30:13
I was doing and and sometimes when you
30:15
doing something it formulate you'll
30:16
figure that [ __ ] out later but sometimes
30:18
you just got to start it and I know you
30:19
know five homies right now that's solid
30:22
that's working that's doing they that
30:23
y'all can meet up somewhere Dave if you
30:25
do it man call us up let us know your
30:28
we'll be to you out on there we'll
30:30
promote it on there okay oh yeah
30:32
definitely get that book though I
30:34
apprciate arm with good intentions man
30:36
make sure you get it you super citizen
30:38
SW the morning take another one let's go
30:40
to Colorado skew is on the line in
30:42
Colorado what's good SK hey you get the
30:45
book hey what's up brother you get the
30:46
book yeah I'm I'm G get the book for
30:48
sure man I'mma check it out man right
30:50
it's been a year officially since I've
30:51
been out I just been out a year I just
30:53
got went back for a felony graffiti and
30:56
it's a trip I'm 43 years old the system
30:58
kind of conserved me like you know it
31:00
preserved me like I'm some uh Demolition
31:02
Man [ __ ] so I look like I'm 30 and I get
31:04
out here in the streets is kind of
31:06
different and they're moving different
31:07
out here and the kids they call me skew
31:08
because that's I got the name from being
31:09
in prison because they call me old skew
31:12
like old school or like a old head cuz
31:14
when they find out I'm in my 40s and
31:15
they're like man you ain't here for
31:16
tagging on [ __ ] and I'm just like yeah
31:18
nobody really mess with me because I'm
31:20
older man the respect but coming out
31:22
here transitioning you know just with
31:24
the death of brother Chino XL rest in
31:26
peace he was a good friend of mine he I
31:28
he answer the calls from prison I mean
31:30
that's a good man right there he would
31:32
answer my calls and I reach out and I
31:34
told him when I got out I was going to
31:35
go into radio broadcasting so what I did
31:38
is I signed up for a school called the
31:40
colorado Media School of broadcasting
31:41
and sway shouts out to you you're a big
31:43
inspiration man Chino always used to
31:45
tell me about you and uh you and King
31:47
Tech brother brother yeah so I'm over
31:51
here I'm at school right now I'm
31:52
actually in the parking lot I'm about to
31:53
go in man and I'm just it's really it's
31:55
been really hard man like finding a job
31:57
and just trying to get out there and do
31:58
the right thing but I'm just trying to
32:00
stay out the system I'm trying not to go
32:02
back sometimes like giv up you got it
32:04
excuse got it let me tell you let me
32:06
tell you something school let me tell
32:07
you something school the scariest day of
32:09
prison is the day you get out cuz now
32:10
you got to be somebody you never was in
32:12
your life right but one thing I'm going
32:14
to tell you about that no keep chasing
32:16
them chase that yes cuz if me and you in
32:18
the street game and me and you looking
32:19
for that package to sell that dope ain't
32:21
nobody G to tell us no right we going to
32:22
find a way we going to find a way to
32:24
hustle and you know if we got a drug
32:26
addiction we going to find a way to get
32:27
that money every day to go ahead and get
32:29
high so what you going to do you going
32:31
to find a way to get that gig and when
32:33
you go in there tell them tell them your
32:34
truth share your truth because a lot of
32:36
people in these places they got Hearts
32:37
too and and and my whole thing don't go
32:39
to Five go to 10 spots you mean to tell
32:42
me you went to 10 spots no you probably
32:43
ain't go to 10 spots yet because you
32:45
look you let one or two NOS knock you
32:47
down get your ass back up just like you
32:49
would get back up in the street game you
32:51
ain't just going to tag one wall you
32:52
going to tag 10 walls in the night ain't
32:53
you cuz you want to get your rep up
32:55
right and you got to think about this
32:57
and I speak about this I learn marketing
32:59
from tagging on the walls now I'm a
33:01
master marketer you are a marketer bro
33:03
so what you got to do is you got to Swit
33:05
it up and say damn how can I turn this
33:07
into something more how can I turn this
33:08
into art but you got something already
33:11
you got a great talent now you're going
33:13
to you know broadcast in school you know
33:15
what I mean and and think about this you
33:17
know they going to teach you some things
33:18
in broadcasting school but your phone is
33:20
a satellite that can shoot out to a lot
33:22
of people put that tripod up sometime
33:24
and you you just you just play off it
33:26
you just record your a lot of times
33:28
record yourself find topics to talk
33:30
about and just keep doing it but you for
33:32
real for real you got everything you
33:34
already need you just not looking at it
33:36
hey skill we appreciate you man go on my
33:39
Instagram um we did a tribute to um to
33:42
Chino Excel King TCH myself okay and a
33:45
lot of the folks all right and salute to
33:47
his family his beautiful children and
33:50
thank you for bringing them up SK you
33:52
you super before I go s can I say free
33:54
uh free my son he's looking at 18 years
33:56
Vincent Williams man they got him up and
33:58
assist and my son so I love y'all thank
34:00
you for all the inspiration thank you
34:02
down brother wall up there hold your son
34:04
down get your book wall sir I'm get a
34:06
hold of you I'm G get a hold of y'all on
34:08
social media and I'mma check out the uh
34:09
the memoral thank you brother you
34:12
man we gonna go to Florida wallow change
34:15
said you helped him get out of the
34:17
streets and he want to say thank you
34:19
change go
34:20
ahead yes sir wall how everybody doing
34:23
good morning how you doing my brother
34:26
hey man wall I just wanted to say man me
34:28
and my boys been listening to you man
34:30
for probably the last six years I want
34:32
to say five it might be six but uh you
34:35
help us get out the streets man it's
34:37
kind of crazy where your platform goes
34:40
man just to recall back a few years back
34:43
man they was watching your videos in the
34:45
Trap bro I I come out the projects down
34:47
here in Florida a lot of people don't
34:50
care about a lot of social media in
34:52
those dark places but your platform
34:55
makes it in some of the darkest places
34:58
bro and and and it's it's the only
35:01
platform that soaks in to us young dogs
35:04
out here man when I say young I'm saying
35:06
30 and 20s I'm in my early 30s man me me
35:10
and my boys got up out the streets man
35:11
listening to a lot of your videos broam
35:14
back back when we ain't had nothing but
35:16
a rock the cell you know what I'm saying
35:18
we looking at you up early in the
35:20
morning saying bro go for it go for that
35:23
job get up out that situation man when
35:26
you hearing that in repeat dog we
35:29
finally made a call man we've been
35:31
driving truck for four years now dog
35:33
there you come
35:35
on God bless y'all wow love man y doing
35:40
it big that's inspirational made it up
35:43
We Made It Up Out them projects man our
35:45
project is called the valley and if you
35:47
think about the valley it's a hole down
35:49
at the bottom you can't see what's
35:50
surrounded on the
35:52
outside it's a it's a it's a it's a
35:55
vacuum a crab in the bucket type of
35:57
place man and we watch your videos bro I
36:01
know what it is about you man but it
36:04
works through all of us out there man
36:07
you got guys that want to move out of
36:08
there now bro we've been gone for a
36:10
while and W I realize that us staying in
36:13
that place is what had us blinded bro we
36:17
got families now we living righteous now
36:20
wow you know what I'm saying I just want
36:21
to say thank you bro thank you for
36:23
listening bro wow thank you for
36:26
listening wow hey and thank you for
36:28
sharing change thank you bro wow thank
36:30
you change you and all your crew
36:33
Everybody from the valley or citizens
36:35
brother way in the morning God bless you
36:38
my man hey one more thing sway before I
36:41
go go for it well I just want to ask you
36:44
man why do a lot of people around your
36:46
age group always try to turn us young
36:48
boys away from watching you uh you know
36:51
what always wonder about that man it
36:53
been like 10 of them man why y'all watch
36:55
him damn that's all y'all want listen to
36:58
is him no you you got to understand this
37:00
that wall let me say this cuz y'all give
37:02
me the love and respect that they wish
37:03
y'all gave them you understand that
37:06
y'all give me love and respect and you
37:07
know a lot of times people people don't
37:09
hate you because of the money of the
37:11
things they hate you because you get the
37:12
love and respect that they will want for
37:14
their self doing what they want to do
37:16
you see what I'm saying because they
37:18
can't give you the ism they can't give
37:19
you the game they not pouring in the
37:21
yard so they like damn why you watching
37:22
him and not watching me why you ain't
37:24
listening to me that's all it's about
37:25
but you know they going through their
37:26
struggles right now hopefully they get
37:28
it together pray for him change all
37:31
right you a citizen brother man I round
37:35
Applause I like that brother DB I know
37:37
you had a question Tracy I'll let you
37:39
end it DB uh wallow I just wanted to
37:42
pick your brain in terms of and this is
37:43
kind of a broad question to ask so it
37:45
might not be easy to answer is
37:48
glorifying violence and crime and
37:50
disrespecting women necessary in Hip Hop
37:53
I mean I get that people are telling
37:54
stories they're talking about where they
37:56
came from they're trying to Wayne people
38:00
away from following those paths but some
38:02
people see it in a different way in
38:04
terms of not a Learning lesson they look
38:05
at it it's like I want that I want the
38:07
crime the guns and all the money and so
38:09
I just wanted to see what you thought
38:10
about it I think I think it it depends
38:12
on where you at in your life cuz I ain't
38:13
going to front I'mma be real with you I
38:15
ain't perfect I grew up I wanted to be
38:16
in two life crew like I literally wanted
38:19
to be in that [ __ ] group
38:20
because I know it was just you know when
38:22
you're young you shock and he you hear
38:23
certain things but I just think it all
38:25
depends on where people at in their life
38:26
and they got to go through the process
38:28
if you young you on your own time now
38:30
now me and you as older we're in our 40s
38:32
we looking at it from a different
38:33
perspective I think everything is
38:34
perspective and based off of where you
38:36
at of course we going to say that but
38:39
the young people like that's what I want
38:40
to hear and when it comes to violence
38:44
and rap when it comes to all that stuff
38:46
um we got to look at the whole uh we
38:49
don't go crazy about violence and movies
38:51
do we we don't say nothing about that so
38:53
I think it's everybody's looking at it
38:55
from different perspectives uh if sway
38:57
got a kid it's his responsibility to
38:59
raid this kid properly and to make sure
39:00
that he do a job as a parents not rap
39:02
music not no music not social media uh
39:06
but I I think everybody got their own
39:08
different you know they got their
39:09
different Outlook of it you know what
39:10
I'm saying the difference with with the
39:12
movie thing though is that it's it's
39:13
it's not real and in hip-hop we're
39:15
seeing people getting killed off of like
39:17
threats and thing you know what I'm
39:18
saying beefs and stuff like that so I
39:20
think that might hold a little bit more
39:22
weight than making a fuss about movie
39:24
violence no no you you're absolutely
39:26
right but you know I I just believe that
39:29
it's all perspective and it's all based
39:30
off of who is you know who is producing
39:33
this and where they at in their life cuz
39:35
cuz we can say whatever we want to say
39:36
it's a lot of people that our stuff fall
39:38
on De ears because they like they no I'm
39:40
young you don't know what's going on
39:41
over here you you you a 100ed I'm I'm 16
39:44
right now man yeah [ __ ] out of here I'm
39:46
just saying that's how they looking at
39:47
it so it's like we course we G to say it
39:50
cuz we old and we understand that but
39:52
I'm saying from their perspective and I
39:54
think a lot of times it don't really be
39:56
a dialogue amongst us
39:57
and young people I think it's be about a
39:59
bunch of older people be like this they
40:02
be talking to and not having
40:04
conversations with a lot of times when I
40:06
go kick it with the young Bloods I'll be
40:08
like can I share something with you nef
40:09
I don't try to tell him some so I think
40:11
a lot of times we don't go and hear them
40:13
and we it don't really be a dialogue it
40:14
just be us telling them what to do so we
40:16
never get their perspective why you
40:17
nodding your head you 22 that's 100%
40:20
true and honestly like watching somebody
40:23
like you cuz I see a lot of your videos
40:25
you know it's it's a different way to
40:28
reach the youth cuz talking at us is not
40:31
going to it's not going to work because
40:33
we we feel like alienated when it's
40:35
everybody trying to give us a lecture
40:37
but like with you and other people in
40:39
our community that are trying to do the
40:41
proper thing to connect with the youth
40:43
it's like you got to you got to find a
40:44
way to get us involved like I I always
40:46
say like with like with
40:48
teachers it's not the students job to
40:51
learn it's a teacher's job to know how
40:53
to teach a student you know what I'm
40:54
saying like yeah I kind of thing
40:57
my man that's the youth right there
41:00
that's your God Son Heather you want to
41:01
add to
41:02
this well I I do want to add cuz W you
41:05
were speaking about perspective I
41:07
remember one of the first times you came
41:08
here you shared with us that you learned
41:10
a lot while you were incarcerated from
41:12
an IP attorney I believe you started
41:14
spending time he he was telling me about
41:16
trademarks and and now now my IP
41:18
attorney Shay M Lawson a sister in
41:20
Atlanta she's a beast come on she's a
41:22
beast and you learned that on the inside
41:25
is it anybody that you sharing with us
41:28
whether famous or not that you have
41:30
learned something from very valuable
41:31
once you got out um when you say
41:34
somebody onside I'm going just say the
41:37
community cuz it been everything for me
41:39
coming out of the corner store and the
41:40
youngest showing me you know how to do
41:42
this with the phone how to like some of
41:44
my strongest teachers was young people
41:46
because I'm in the technology World
41:48
whereas though I don't know like a lot
41:50
of people they got phones and they don't
41:51
know how to manipulate this [ __ ] young
41:53
people be like no oh go on this app go
41:55
this so you just talking to them and
41:56
they give you so much game in a little
41:58
bit of time cuz this their world um but
42:01
just people in general I could be on a
42:02
plane like the everyday people give you
42:05
so much game cuz I believe the world is
42:07
one big library and everybody's a book
42:10
and everybody got a different Journey a
42:11
different story so if you just some
42:13
Street novels some is uh pornography
42:15
books some is you just got to talk no
42:17
I'm just being straight up you know what
42:19
I mean mean everybody got a different
42:21
different type of of some is mechanical
42:23
books some is books on cooking you could
42:25
just and that's how I look at people but
42:27
it been so much I can't say one it's
42:29
it's thousands of people that gave me
42:31
game in these conversations since I've
42:32
been because I'm the type of boy soon as
42:34
you tell me something I'm even writing
42:36
in my notes my book of like and I'm and
42:37
I'm and I'm researching later on theight
42:39
I'm like d let me look this up let me
42:40
look this up because there so much cheat
42:41
codes to information you know I mean so
42:44
it's just like it's too many people I
42:47
love it man wall here we talk about the
42:49
new book armed with good in intention
42:51
Tracy I'mma let you ask the last
42:53
question so this man got more he got
42:55
more to do okay well he ain't used to
42:57
sitting this long this it's not his
42:59
thing you know actually he did 20 years
43:02
my
43:03
bad get way he's mastered that
43:08
too no no listen I got to I'm G to share
43:10
something with y'all this deep okay um
43:12
so I get a call a text from Black Ice
43:16
black ice my brother got a new project
43:18
black ice got a new project right Rich
43:21
ice produced it yeah so so Black Ice
43:22
come through he like w I need you I said
43:24
all right cool he said I'mma use you on
43:26
the project I said well you know uh do
43:29
your thing right so when he come through
43:31
I'm like so his ass right here so he
43:34
like I'm like all right bet and he took
43:36
it from yall
43:38
show the first episode I ever did what I
43:43
heard this didn't know it listen
44:05
you know treat your mommy like you know
44:06
like so yall got a lot of [ __ ]
44:09
disconnect from older black man y just y
44:11
just been disappointed whole life you
44:13
[ __ ] here Brothers
44:19
stepson
44:23
I wow wow there we go that thing going
44:26
get Grammy he said that he told me that
44:29
it's going to get a Grammy he told me
44:30
that he said yo wer we ready get a
44:32
Grammy yo you T black ice we walking on
44:34
stage I told listen I told him that cuz
44:37
listen list listen when he said the
44:39
Gramm I had to look it up could do I get
44:41
one too you get one
44:43
too told me that we we all running black
44:47
ice it's amazing project yes yes him and
44:50
Rich ice they went to Oakland to record
44:52
it yeah black ice is a great person man
44:53
he hit me up he just done you know what
44:55
I mean like you know and that's that's
44:57
what it's about but I'mma play I'm G
44:59
play something for y'all when we off the
45:01
drint because it ain't released and I
45:02
think you're gonna like this love I love
45:04
it really is a young new artist she
45:06
banging I can't wait to hear it ccie one
45:09
last question okay okay so wallow
45:10
considering how gifted you are at
45:13
understanding multiple povs within our
45:15
culture like before you go we have to
45:18
know what your thoughts are behind
45:21
Kendrick being the Super Bowl Halftime
45:24
performer and what we're surprised to
45:26
see with which is the controversy around
45:28
it with the division that has now
45:30
happened in the culture where a lot of
45:31
folks are public figures are saying nah
45:34
this should really be going to Wayne Uh
45:37
shout out to uh shout out to my brother
45:39
Top Dog shout out to Kendrick shout out
45:41
to a by involve
45:43
um that ain't none of my business man
45:45
I'mma just say that because man it's
45:46
like Wayne but you know Wayne New
45:48
Orleans I thought that was GNA happen
45:49
everybody did but uh you
45:52
know there's a lot of politics you know
45:55
I mean in this [ __ ] but it's like I
45:56
thought when was going to like the New
45:58
Orleans is like damn it's like it's so
45:59
much culture there and uh to be going to
46:02
the South and not had the South I don't
46:04
know you know what I'm saying I'm I
46:07
don't know but you know I don't know the
46:08
I don't know how this [ __ ] go it ain't
46:11
you know I mean I ain't I ain't got a
46:12
dog in a fight but shout out to AB Bol
46:15
man um hope they figure out a way you
46:18
with tuni little tuni come out there you
46:20
know I mean cuz we could all be
46:22
surprised yeah I don't know and you know
46:23
what's crazy what if this is all all a
46:26
all a Big Marketing this [ __ ] is like
46:29
you know what I mean look at aha jokes
46:31
on you type thing you don't know you
46:33
never know it's only been 24 hours like
46:36
marketing is crazy exactly you never
46:38
know wallo267 get this man a round of
46:41
applause man armed with good intentions
46:44
this is the book I need the whole
46:46
Community to pick this one up on your
46:49
coffee table Plus for the holiday it's a
46:53
great holiday gift come oner come on
46:57
birthday let's get it man no reason gift
46:59
no reason no reason gift GI to yourself
47:02
give it to your homie in the hood
47:04
instead of whatever else you might give
47:06
them and Beyond so they I'm come up here
47:08
one day and DJ this joint I always want
47:10
to DJ but I say how can I cheat go there
47:12
you go stop ha you sound like Gil stop
47:14
ha I was like damn how can I make a set
47:16
and just be sitting back playing letting
47:18
it play and just and just grab the mic
47:21
come Ong come on dog that's a code
47:24
that's a right that's what all right see
47:26
see listen see you got real records I I
47:29
told Cosmic if us a fake DJ cuz I don't
47:31
be seeing no records no more I'll be
47:32
seeing all the other stuff you can't say
47:34
that about
47:34
COs no I'm not even going to let you do
47:37
that big I ha all the time is
47:41
I I'm not having that Blas fake DJ BL
47:45
that's blasphemy he don't have them
47:46
records right there that's cos C he
47:48
ain't got to have one record I want to
47:49
see records I want to see
47:51
Rec show up do that to man I need a ax
47:55
SC I need a ax I want to play something
47:56
for y man I got play something for all
47:58
right let's end the show with that all
48:00
right we was positive to that I had to
48:02
hate
48:03
on I had to ha I'm Kev biggest hater man
48:06
you don't know who Cosmic Kev is look
48:08
him up he's a legend he's a icon out of
48:11
Philadelphia he's been holding it down
48:13
from day one always supporting real and
48:16
Kobe Co yeah all of them yes Helen
48:19
little oh Helen little y Co you know
48:22
everybody I used to be on Power 99 he's
48:25
a legend yeah wake up show TW Tech we
48:27
was there too everywhere all right cool
48:30
hey we love you allot tell Gilly we love
48:31
him too y'all keep doing man keep
48:33
uplifting the community we'll be back
48:35
tomorrow God willing y'all still on the
48:37
right side of positivity on that note we
48:39
have nothing I'm ready DJ left to say
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