The Untold Journey of BBoy Crumbs: 30 Years of Hip-Hop Mastery 💯 | SWAY’S UNIVERSE

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that's mandatory for greatness showing
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up a lot more than the
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average yes big round of applause for
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that I'm going open up the phone lines
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right now 888 742
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3345 and when we talk about this culture
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this next individual Tracy G
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personifies what I learned this culture
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to be all about when keing Tech and I
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came in the game in the
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80s the way we came into the game King
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Tech and I met through a friend of mine
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by the name of Al ski he was one of the
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sickest dancers to come out of North
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Oakland he King Tech and others um Aki
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star AKA octaviano from the Renegade
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rockers a crew out of Northern
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California Bay Area um eventually he
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became a singer he's the lead singer for
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Spanish fly but prior to that he was a
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part of the All City Productions crew
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which was founded by King Tech and
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myself right but prior to that it was
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the fly namic Force which was a group
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name we had but prior to that we that we
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co-opted uh and made it into a a rap
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group prior to that so many priors
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flynamic force was a bat boy crew of
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different beat boys or as people like to
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call them Breakers and we'll come into
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that uh that were assembled in Northern
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California as teenagers and they
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eventually um created the San Franc
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Frisco ballet Breakers um out of
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Northern California and King Tech was a
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major part of that Ali eventually
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branched off into other things but
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before he did that he introduced King
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Tech and I and we formed swaying King
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Tech and our vision was rooted in
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culture and everything that's pure about
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it we were influenced by movies like
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wild style Star Wars Beach Street I
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could keep breaking I could name them
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all right and we wanted to be a part of
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this movement that was empowering young
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people to express themselves in ways
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that they weren't being allowed to break
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into me is a beautiful expression of art
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through your body through your physical
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that's being transformed from your
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mental to your physical and now becomes
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Visual and all these different things
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all these different ways to express are
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so unique to this culture it's so unique
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to this culture um and so what I came up
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to understand the culture to be is our
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next guest represents
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wholeheartedly this branch of Hip Hop
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culture to me is the most important now
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because it's the one that's less tainted
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it hasn't been able to be fully
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infiltrated where those including the
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Architects and some of those of first
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generation beat boys could still
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participate in it in rap it was um
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infiltrated by Corporate America and it
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um assumed the
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it assumed the badge of Hip Hop yes it
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was only a part of hip-hop the mcing
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there are other elements the DJing was
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the first part of it the beat boys were
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right there with the DJs the MC
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supported the DJ right the graph writers
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had their own movement happening at the
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same time and it all kind of assembled
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and felt like it was all this one thing
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that now is being deemed hip-hop it
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didn't have a name back
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right it was just disenfranchised people
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who needed a way to express themselves
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would not get support couldn't get
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exposure none of that it was also a way
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where people communicated where we
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didn't have to fight no more we could
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battle right you know and as a result of
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that uh King Tech and I when we started
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radio started on radio we knew that one
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of the things we wanted to do was
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highlight B boy culture him and I were
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artists before that we were signed to
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Giant Warner Brothers when we made
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videos all we wanted to do was highlight
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beat boy culture um I'm going to name
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some of the folks we've included in
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videos B boy
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Ivan get that man a round of applause
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you know Prince Ken Swift give that man
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a round of applause my man
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Cojo give that man a round of applause
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um Crazy Legs hey give that man a round
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of applause remind get that man a round
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of applause and I can name him on and on
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and on because it was important to us if
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you watch our Anthem video that came out
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in 99 it was important for us to make
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sure that we use the rap gang now to
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highlight the Beat Boy Beat Girl game so
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we had
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Eminem Tech 9 Rizza Coogi rap Chino
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Excel J felony feral munch
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[Applause]
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krs1 DJ red alert and all of these in
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one video because we knew it would get
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maximum exposure and because of that we
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also included the beat boys so they
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could get the same maximum exposure as
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the MC that's my setup for this next
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young man that I want to say I saw first
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time I saw him dance in
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person was at a event called
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radiotron in 19
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this is what
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96 and listen I was just driving around
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La I can't think of who I was with and I
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saw just a bunch of people gathered
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outside of a building pulled over this
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is in the midst of Sway and Tech world
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famous wake up show all this stuff
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happening I didn't even know I was
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walking into wow and I remember walking
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in and I saw these dudes from Style
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Elements crew dancing and I was
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flabbergasted at how far the dance
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culture has come come in the moves that
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they were doing the power moves were
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ridiculous I had never seen anything
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like it and I recall calling team Tech
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and saying bro I don't know what's
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happening right now but the way this
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what I'm looking at we got to get these
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dudes on the show number one and you
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need to drive down here to see this [ __ ]
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you know and that's the first time I saw
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this man dance he's had a career that
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spans back to I want to say 1993 mhm uh
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so when you put that together that's 30
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1 years of professionalism of a culture
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that should be highlighted that people
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wouldn't even know this man has been
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touring he has been in movies he has
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choreographed with some of the biggest
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artists Justin timberlay Christina agala
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Missy Missy Elliott black ey peas let's
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go let's go I mean and the list goes on
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and on and on I want to welcome him he's
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also a judge of the first ever Olympic
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breaking dance competition in Paris
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ladies and gentlemen I know him from the
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Style Elements crew but he's gone on to
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do other things since I want y'all to
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give a big round of applause and I'm
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going open up the phone lines for this
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man even if you don't know him you
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should know him he's respected around
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the world in the Beat Boy Beat Girl
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Community um and Hip Hop and the culture
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the legendary the one and only B boy
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crumbs is here CRS Lessing man CRS is
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here standing o man get his man standing
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o bation man get his man a standing on
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get that man a standing on love you guys
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man love you guys so much for being here
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man we we've came a long way but it's
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just begun Just Begun gun gun gun just
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begun I love how you did that that was
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pretty good man this is why you are
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where you are you know just I speak for
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all Breakers all around the world you
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know we we thank you for your
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contributions to hip-hop and there ain't
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many um people in your position doing
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what you're doing the right thing right
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the true school there's a new school
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there's a old school and there's a true
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school and you know where you stand man
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the true SCH appreciate you brother like
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salute to you crumbs I Manan you make
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you giving me chills because that's the
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one branch of the culture that I'm the
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most humbled
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by it's it's one that that uh we kept
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control of speak to that yes you know we
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we we kept it in house right and the one
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of the most important things that I
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think that kept us flourishing is we
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never separated the elements we always
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kept it together the writers the DJs the
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B boys the MC's always you go to a
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breaking event you're going to see all
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of that if you go to a rap concert you
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Pro now yeah you're probably not going
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to see the other elements right so at
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some point it got separated and um we
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never did that we always stayed true you
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go to a breaking Jam you're going to
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hear tracks from the original break
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Beats from the 70s ' 80s 90s 2000s 2010s
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2020s we play it all you know we
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represent all um all elements we
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represent all genres of music and hipop
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and break beats and even even um popping
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locking you know all these street art
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forms come together and and we're one
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big family under one big umbrella we
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call hip-hop we never said at that so
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that's why we kept you know kept it true
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that's man give that a round of applause
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man
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I it it was done so well and the
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infiltration the Diabolical infiltration
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of the culture was so
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effective that when you say hip hop to
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people today who may have been a part of
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you know rap for about five to 10 years
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they can't name the elements they don't
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see that this goes together with goes
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together with this right why is it so
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important to keep them all together in
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the events that you
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do um well is it's evolution of of of
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hip-hop in the dance of of lyrics of
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your your pieces whatever whatever uh
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element you're representing and honestly
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like a lot of real hip-hop heads do more
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than one element yeah you know like we
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came up we were we were rhyming writing
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I'm a DJ too but I'm a b boy first
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that's my best element that's just my
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best element you know but I'm a
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practitioner of hip-hop so when I came
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up in the '90s this was that's what
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Crews were about it wasn't Oh no you're
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just a breaking crew you're just a a rap
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crew no you're a hip-hop crew right so
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we I felt like like I was saying before
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we kept those guidelines and kept uh
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kept building kept growing and never um
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never strayed from that and it's
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important you know because where we're
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taking break now finally like on the
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Olympic level you know now we can teach
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the massage what real hip hop is about
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you know breaking is officially on the
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Olympic level crumbs is a
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judge how what was the process because
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there are amazing B boys now who've been
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doing this for decades all over the
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world what was the process how did you
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not let the Olympic Committee
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infiltrate the performance part with
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rules regulations and
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misunderstanding a lot went into it you
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know there's a lot of people in the
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background that played a big part in
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making sure this happens in the right
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way um making sure things big things
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like they don't call it break dancing
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okay let's talk about that why do you
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not call it break dancing because I you
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know I we never call that was taboo to
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say break dancing it's like you know any
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genre of dance right uh jazz or anything
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you don't say hey I do jazz dancing you
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know why what was why was that added in
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you know it's just like when breaking
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became popular in the in the early 80s
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the media kind of coined that term and
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the breakers back then the Pioneers
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really didn't do much to fix it to
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correct it they just kind of rolled with
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it and um it stuck right but it was
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never called break dancing it was called
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breaking B boying B boys be girls that's
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what it is so from now on call it
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breaking bat boys be girls but but not
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break dancing not break dancing no there
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you go all right because that was never
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what it was called and that was coined
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by folks who had no idea about it right
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right and so you know that for one
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that's first and foremost and um just
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keeping the for when it goes to the
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Olympics keeping the same format that
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our events already have not changing it
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it's just on a bigger platform the same
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format same music Same Vibe just trying
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to keep it authentic as as possible you
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know so a lot of people played big Parts
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in in making that happen who are some of
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those people that you could
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recall um well I mean we can go back
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we're in the birthplace of hip hop right
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now in New York City right so there's a
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lot of pioneers that pave the way for us
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to be in the Olympics to be doing what
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we're doing right now and uh if I could
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just shout some of them out man um you
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know the they're said to be one of the
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first breaking Crews right here from New
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York Zulu Kings started in 1973 okay you
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got crazy commanders the Bron boys Rock
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Steady Crew incredible Breakers Dynamic
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rockers floor Masters all these Crews
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and individuals um contributed to the
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foundation of this dance MH and in the 7
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and the ' 80s and they're from right
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here from New York City you know so I
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would be remiss if I didn't come up here
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and uh shout them out and salute to them
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because if it wasn't for them there
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would be no crumbs there'd be no Style
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Elements there'd be no breaking in the
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Olympics so love all of them my brother
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King Tech um I told him you was here
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today and I'mma tell you exactly what he
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said to me um he said man in my opinion
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they were the greatest group from the
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United States in the 90s B boy Ivan
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remine crumbs man does they you know he
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said they were the greatest group um of
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the
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90s and he asked some other questions
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I'll get to in a second I there reading
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what he wrote um which I believe too uh
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I want to get back to the Olympics so
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yeah this would only be
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possible if the rest of the world had
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interest right if the rest of the world
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wasn't so engaged and involved and
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committed and dedicated to this dance
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culture the it wouldn't make sense to
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the Olympics right to put make this make
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this actual now a new event so to speak
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a new tournament when I did hosted just
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Theo and shout out to Bruce you know
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Kani I believe his um last name is who
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brought me over there and the idea was
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sway we doing these live broadcast with
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Red Bull and we want you to co-host with
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it at that time I hadn't been that
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connected I'm always connected to the
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bat boy culture but I hadn't you know I
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was like I didn't know all the new names
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man you get pulled in a lot of different
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directions way so it's okay you always
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stay true I know yeah but I went over
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there and my mind was blown because it
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was full Arenas packed AR Arenas like a
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Usher tour concert concert with
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grandparents and grandkids and
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everything in between all together what
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happened why is the world so more so
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much more supportive and so much more
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ahead and advanced in b boy be girl
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culture than we are in the place where
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it originated o that's a tough one to
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talk about you know cuz cuz we're from
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here you know what I'm saying this is
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the birthplace Hip Hop was created here
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in the USA but the sad truth is we get
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the least amount of support you know
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I've been traveling the world since I
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was 16 years old I went on my first
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world tour at 16 still still in high
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school you know what I'm saying and
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still doing it to this day and uh I I
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even noticed back then you know um I
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started noticing little things like our
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jams were held in gymnasiums over there
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it was in big venues which turned into
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Arenas right um then I started noticing
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the government support that their
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government started paying the breakers
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to train to compete to represent their
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country they were paying their bills
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here in America government hasn't given
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a [ __ ] dollar to Hip Hop you know
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what I'm saying well not not breaking
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you know um things like this um and and
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it's sad to say it even bleeds into our
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own culture here in America right like
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you got so so many of these million
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dooll rappers MC's you know and I love
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them all I love them all but the truth
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is they haven't put any money towards
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breaking the Olympics they haven't even
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talked about it or given it any light
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and this is massive for hip-hop this is
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histo this is a historic moment for
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breaking and for hip-hop and they're not
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even talking about it let alone like
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putting any funds in you know um I'll
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give you an example too like one of the
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top B Boys in Japan uh his name is Shiga
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kicks he's got like eight major sponsors
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we're talking about sponsors like Nike
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um Red Bull gshock Mercedes like I could
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go on and on and on the top B boy that's
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competing in the Olympics from America
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he has one sponsor and that's Red Bull
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and that's not even an American sponsor
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wow so I'm just trying to put things
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into perspective I don't I don't want to
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debie down the
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show listen this is information yeah
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that we don't know yeah and and it's
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really I get passionate to talk about
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that stuff cuz it sucks you know cuz
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this is the home we should be supported
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by by all these MC's all these rappers
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all these uh producers ERS record
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companies you know that have made
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Millions off of Hip Hop you know don't
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forget about the other elements just
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because we ain't cashing in like y'all
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don't mean we ain't [ __ ] it doesn't mean
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you can't because these tournaments that
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happen overseas Tracy I went to do
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Battle of the Year M the Battle of the
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Year tournament when they made the movie
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Terence Jay and I I was in the movie you
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was in the movie crumbs was in the movie
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of course he was our co-star
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okay get it right let's go but now
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battle to Year Chris Brown was in that
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movie Brown yep and
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um even that even we were filming inside
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the actual competition MH and I felt
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like I was at a playoff game for the NBA
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Championship kid you not s yeah these
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events that's what they're equivalent to
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yeah you know like battle of the year
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was our Super Bowl MH right and and I'm
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going to play off like radiotron 96 yes
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okay I was 16 years old that was our
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first big Championship that styons won
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that was in LA so that was National
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right battle of the year was a movie off
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of a real event yeah you know so the the
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promoter um the promoter from Battle of
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the Year saw the video from Radio Trum
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they saw us versus Renegades they got a
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hold of us they said yo we want you to
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bring you guys it was in Germany to
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battle of the year to represent USA so
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Battle of the Year is like the best
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Crews from all different countries
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compete you know you know how it goes so
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um so we went and let me tell you like
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that's that day is when breaking changed
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forever like how so because we just
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flipped the game upside down and added
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so much vocabulary and we just changed
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the whole the whole game you know and
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made everybody start breaking in a new
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format and and everybody from Style
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Elements was their own superhero their
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own character had their own style remind
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come on man one of the great one of the
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goats man complex he's a Rubik's Cube
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he's just a genius you know his patterns
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his his musicality and just the way he
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moves he moved like nobody you had Ivan
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flying in the air oh my gosh the Human
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Action Figure Incredible Hulk you know
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what I'm saying the urban action figure
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the urban action figure yeah you had me
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the Stacked Master like on never my to
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feet NE never touching the ground on
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beat for like a minute long you know
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with complex threads and uni blowups and
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all of that you had Jrock with the with
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the thread combinations and just
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straight just crazy Styles upon crazy
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Styles upon crazy Styles you know we had
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when we formed together was like arm arm
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leg leg body head we were like Voltron
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yeah when we clicked together nobody was
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beating us nobody so we just kept
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racking up W's and and y'all won the
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Battle of the Year we won Battle of the
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Year easy what year was the first 97 my
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man damn man cuz y'all changed you did
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the whole world
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because then by that time video footage
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start that's what I was saying like like
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that from Battle of the Year everybody
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around the world saw us at that point so
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in 97 that's when everybody started
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mimicking our Styles and you know and
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and everything changed like you know I I
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would do like one hand hops right yeah
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from from and I did it in Battle of the
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Year about a week later everybody and
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their mama was hopping on one hands you
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know what I mean you know stuff like
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that that's just an example but so many
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different movements and styles and
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flavors and flows and techniques not
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just the moves it's the movements and
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the ideas the concepts it just got
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tooken to a whole another level so shout
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out to my boy sty Monster Squad you guys
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you know deserve all the respect man we
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we changed it in the '90s and we just
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did our part we contributed right cuz we
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always had the mindset of you got to
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bring food to the table right you got to
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contri contribute you can't just take
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take take right we want to add on to the
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game to contribute and we did that and
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um some of the stuff we did I call it
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Future Foundation cuz there's only one
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original Foundation but the moves that
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we were doing back then now all these
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modern-day Breakers these kids they're
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all doing them they took your moves and
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Amplified them yeah times five right
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because you start seeing the Korean B
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boys technology technology right so they
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were able to slow you down before that
22:59
you if you saw it you saw it but you
23:02
didn't have you couldn't rewind it and
23:05
then slow it down and so how did that
23:09
how did that play when it came to biting
23:12
you when somebody just steal in your
23:13
move without your permission that and
23:15
that's a fa PA you can't do that right
23:18
yeah well things have changed guidelines
23:20
have changed you know um in the 80s and
23:23
'90s that was a golden rule in hip-hop
23:25
don't bite you can't bite you know um so
23:28
when people started biting our [ __ ] of
23:30
course we would get upset we would
23:32
battle smoke smoke cats if we got to
23:34
when we see them and just handle it
23:37
hip-hop style battle this is the battle
23:39
culture this is a lot of people forget
23:41
that sometimes you know what I mean like
23:43
they were tripping over Drake and and
23:44
Kendrick battling same thing I love that
23:46
[ __ ] you know that's what it's about let
23:48
them let him battle you know um but yeah
23:51
but now it's like sometimes sometimes
23:54
certain moves become bigger than you
23:57
right you think about we'll go back to
23:59
the foundation of breaking the six step
24:01
the baby Freeze the chair freeze we all
24:04
do it somebody created it you know what
24:06
I'm saying those moves became bigger
24:09
than that person but you got to pay
24:11
homage to those people so that's it's
24:13
the same situation just you know in a
24:16
different time different era It's Just
24:18
Happening all over again B boy crumbs is
24:20
here he's a judge in the first ever
24:23
Olympic breaking competition you can
24:25
follow him at B boy the letter b boy
24:29
crumb so it's BB o y c r u m b and I'm
24:33
going to open up the phone lines b bs
24:36
I'm sorry BS um b b boy crumbs yeah BS
24:40
um and he's no BS I just had to do
24:43
that of course I want to go back to
24:46
something you said about the rappers
24:50
mhm this is your opinion you don't
24:53
obviously speak for the entire B boy
24:54
Comm B boy community on this part um
24:59
do you feel like rap
25:01
abandoned the beat boy culture because
25:04
early on when we look at KRS krs1 videos
25:08
different artists would incorporate Sway
25:10
and teag videos I I just going to tell
25:13
you that we we all would incorporate the
25:16
B Boys in our videos so to highlight the
25:20
culture and to preserve at the same time
25:22
do you feel like rap abandoned the B boy
25:24
culture I feel like mainstream rap okay
25:28
abandon the culture right cuz if we're
25:30
going you just said it we're going back
25:32
I'm from the 9s I I call it the Golden
25:34
Era some people may disagree but I think
25:37
that's when Hip Hop was at an all-time
25:38
high all together connected right you're
25:41
talking about those videos I mean just
25:43
shooting up the top I remember the bums
25:45
elevation they gave Crazy Legs his own
25:48
his own scene at the end that was now
25:51
you know King Tech and I produced that
25:52
uh there you go we were executive
25:54
producers and the way Crazy Legs caught
25:56
into that videos we flew them out to put
25:59
them it's all connected lord of the
26:01
underground Chief Rocka you know you had
26:03
ks1 step into the world with quickstep
26:05
and Rocka fella you know you had uh
26:08
swaying King Tech The Anthem you had all
26:11
these amazing MC's collaborated on them
26:13
but what's the first thing you see is B
26:15
boy Ivan and you see flow master opening
26:19
up the video giving shine to the B boys
26:21
first and you had the breaking all
26:22
throughout the video right so that's the
26:24
era I grew up in and uh that changed
26:28
about I want to say around 98 99 MH you
26:33
know I feel like the mainstream rap they
26:35
traded in the other elements for the
26:37
girls in bikinis the money the Mansions
26:41
you know the bling bling era you know
26:43
I'm I'm like MC is going to hate me now
26:45
right no that's number one no no they
26:48
traed in the I love MC and man trust me
26:52
I do but they they did at that time so
26:55
so this is when I I graduated high
26:57
school in
26:59
'97 um and then I moved to LA to get
27:03
into Hollywood start start making money
27:05
off my craft right and I'm thinking like
27:08
yeah I'm going to get in these hip-hop
27:09
videos with these these MC's I look up
27:12
to and been listening to you know for
27:14
years and years and um that era was over
27:18
you know they didn't want to [ __ ] with
27:19
us but you know who did the pop stars oh
27:23
they put us on a pedestal they were like
27:25
well come well come [ __ ] with us you
27:27
know they were like my first my first
27:29
job was with Christina Aguilera come on
27:31
over I choreographed along with flow
27:34
master Wicked and remind we all
27:35
choreographed that you know that was my
27:37
first job choreographing for Justin
27:40
Timberlake miss you know and then
27:42
miss Justin Timberlake song Oh no I for
27:46
for his tour I taught him how to break
27:48
you taught Justin tber Lake how to break
27:51
yeah wasn't a oneoff GRS really but
27:54
isn't that amazing like a pop star would
27:56
want to learn breaking before you know
27:58
some hip-hop artist you know and that
28:01
just a testament to JT and his hard work
28:03
and like he wants to evolve and keep
28:06
growing and even though he's not
28:08
considered hip-hop you know he he really
28:11
loved breaking enough to want to learn
28:13
it right so that's uh black ey peas come
28:17
they come from dance culture so black ey
28:19
peas is like I say they were The Last of
28:21
a Dying Breed and the the MC's that
28:24
actually danced right so when I came to
28:27
La we we clicked right away cuz we were
28:29
in the clubs ciphering together and
28:31
stuff and immediately they took me on
28:33
tour with them and I tour with them for
28:35
years and it wasn't like I was a
28:37
background dancer you know they have
28:39
like artists usually have like 10
28:42
dancers behind them and no it was just
28:44
me and when it was time for me to break
28:47
they moved off the stage and gave me the
28:49
whole stage you know and I just do my
28:51
solos and and rip it and um so they
28:54
always show me a lot of love and and
28:56
they always dance too so there was
28:58
certain hip-hop artists that that kept
29:01
the the culture alive and represented
29:03
the other elements but it was very very
29:06
rare right so the pop stars is what
29:09
really like the work we got Missy Elliot
29:12
black ey peas Justin Timberlake Usher
29:15
they all we got B boy crumbs here um and
29:18
he'll be a judge at this year's Olympics
29:20
when I listen to you talk about this
29:23
journey crumbs my bones are
29:26
sore cuz to break is the hardest it
29:29
really is it's the hardest thing on your
29:31
body that you can ever imagine I'm sure
29:33
ballerinas might contest this or people
29:36
who have to just use their bones every
29:38
single day but this is distorting the
29:41
body in ways that it's not supposed to
29:44
it's not supposed to move right how are
29:47
how are you physically cuz a lot of beat
29:49
boys are broken down now because of what
29:52
they took their body through well um
29:55
well look longevity I pride myself on
29:57
that 31 years nonstop battling and
30:00
competing the whole time like that's
30:04
unheard of it's pretty crazy you know if
30:06
you compare it to like some other sports
30:08
or let's say like the longest careers in
30:11
sport right you could take some of the
30:13
greats like like Tom Brady right he
30:15
played 22 seasons and retired LeBron
30:18
James is going into Season 22 still
30:21
going you know props to him I'm in
30:23
season 31 going on season 32 you know
30:26
like it's and breaking is super like you
30:29
said it's it's one of the hardest things
30:31
on the body so you know my body feels
30:35
pretty good like usually Breakers have
30:38
problems with their knees get a lot of
30:39
knee surgeries I've never had that knock
30:41
on wood but um my shoulders are pretty
30:44
much gone you know the the um it's all
30:47
bone on bone now the lab room is all
30:49
gone you know so there's 50% of my
30:52
Arsenal that I had to kind of set to the
30:54
side but luckily I'm creative and I can
30:56
always evolve and create new new ideas
30:59
new movements new flows and keep
31:01
changing that's why it keeps it fun for
31:02
me but um I am going to be trying stem
31:06
cell therapy I was going to ask you can
31:08
you like what what kind of me medicinal
31:11
ways could you kind of like repair
31:14
yourself regenerate and repair tissue
31:17
exactly stem cell therapy that's I hear
31:19
so many great things about it you know
31:21
I'm heading down to Tiana Mexico to the
31:23
CPI which is the cellular performance
31:25
Institute and they're partners with the
31:27
UFC they they handle all like the top
31:29
athletes and all I hear is good stories
31:31
from them and so I'm gonna um I'm gonna
31:35
let them shoot these shoulders up with
31:36
some stem cells and try to Benjamin
31:39
Button these shoulders back to 20 years
31:41
old you know what what's the place
31:42
called cellular performance Institute
31:44
CPI yeah Tiana Mexico and um you know
31:47
I'm really excited about that cuz uh I
31:49
got a lot more to do you know and and
31:52
the rest of my body feels great you know
31:53
it's just the shoulders so woo B boy
31:56
crumbs is here Tracy I'm let you get in
31:58
you got to understand um let me uh take
32:02
a few phone calls 888 742 3345 when does
32:06
the Olympic breaking competition
32:07
officially begin it is August 8th and
32:11
9th I believe um of course Paris France
32:15
2024 Olympics and it's it's the very
32:17
last thing in the Olympics okay so
32:19
they're saving it for the end oh my God
32:22
deal man yeah headlining the Olympics
32:25
that's over the 100 meter dash bro yeah
32:27
they love they love it oh you you want
32:29
to know real quick going back to the
32:31
support in America right like this
32:34
journey to get breaking in the Olympics
32:36
like other dances have been trying to
32:37
get in the Olympics for like 50 years
32:40
and have failed right M we got breaking
32:42
in the Junior Olympics in 2018 I want to
32:46
say and the ratings did higher than all
32:48
the other sports I believe that so so
32:52
that's why they put it into the Paris 22
32:54
24 Olympics so but the where the where
32:57
wherever the Olympics is held whoever is
33:00
in charge they have to accept that sport
33:03
we're not a sport we're a dance but you
33:05
know into the Olympics and per was like
33:08
we want breaking you know they put us in
33:10
real fast so don't we have the Olympics
33:13
coming into the states in I was just
33:15
going to get that 2028 in La okay so la
33:18
don't want it what do you mean they
33:20
denied it l denied what breaking are you
33:24
kidding La the city of La the mayor's
33:27
off who can't tell you exactly who but
33:29
you know the people in charge of the
33:30
Olympics in La they they don't want they
33:33
didn't choose breaking to come in see
33:35
the the thing is like when there's a new
33:38
sport um it has to be chosen twice in a
33:41
row for it to be in the Olympics forever
33:44
right so we had Paris accepted and we
33:46
thought we'd get accept in La no problem
33:49
birthplace of hip hop right again going
33:52
back to the support they're like nope
33:53
they put squash in before us what is
33:55
squash I have no idea I'm done put a
33:58
vegetable in the Olympics yep yo I know
34:02
what squash is um but after La I feel
34:05
it's going to get back on track
34:06
especially after it it's crazy that they
34:08
chose before it actually happened in
34:11
Paris because I think the numbers are
34:12
going to be crazy can they reverse it I
34:14
mean cuz that's first of all that's
34:16
embarrassing and that's shameful that
34:18
the country where this culture
34:19
originated from would deny
34:21
its deny its place in the Olympic Games
34:24
yeah being hopefully they can I I don't
34:27
know I don't have the answer to that but
34:29
I hope that you know the numbers go
34:31
through the roof and they rethink their
34:33
decision and make the right choice you
34:35
know B boy crumbs is here I'm going to
34:37
take a few calls real quick uh Cameron
34:39
is in New Mexico Cameron go ahead oh
34:43
[ __ ] oh I'm swe in the morning that's
34:46
right
34:47
ceron say hello to B boy crumbs what
34:50
would you like to say yo B boy CR what's
34:53
what's
34:53
good not much man just hyped up about
34:56
the Olympics boys in the Olympics yeah
34:59
finally oh man that's that's history man
35:02
it really is man but uh but I just want
35:04
to say like uh I do uh Capa too so you
35:08
know it's crazy how Capa and B boy are
35:11
similarity you know like music and all
35:14
that and uh there's a couple uh cistas
35:18
who traveled from Brazil all the way to
35:20
New York in the 70s and uh I was
35:23
wondering if like Papa was also like a
35:26
main influence for B boys breaking big
35:28
influence see the the beautiful thing
35:30
about breaking is we sample from
35:32
everywhere movements right and we just
35:35
turn it into a hip-hop B boy fashion
35:37
right so Brazil if you look at the
35:39
Brazilian B boys all the best they
35:41
started doing capoa so they mix that
35:43
Capa into their breaking style and uh
35:46
you see it so that's what separates uh
35:49
the Brazilians from everybody else
35:51
around the world in Breaking so they
35:53
they they bring that to the table
35:55
there's certain elements of of tradition
35:57
art forms from different countries that
36:00
those people um use in breaking and as
36:04
long as you do it in a breaking format
36:06
fashion and make it look fresh
36:08
everything's accepted Cameron you're a
36:10
citizen thank you brother all right I
36:12
saw when I went to see the bout of the
36:14
year I couldn't believe the Korean teams
36:16
mhm and that's what really blew me away
36:20
France in Korea too were blowing me away
36:24
and that do they interject a lot of
36:25
cultural movement into their breaking
36:27
too right yeah um every like I said
36:30
every country has their thing like in
36:32
France I noticed like most people are
36:34
really flexible in France right so they
36:37
have this crazy flexible style added to
36:39
their breaking a cats like Benji Benji
36:42
and you know I had a classic battle with
36:44
him in 2002 that was uh epic you could
36:47
look that up on YouTube b boy crumbs
36:48
versus Benji some people still say it's
36:50
the best uh one-on-one of all time um
36:54
because of the time too the crowds were
36:55
just crazy but yeah so flexible style
36:58
they represent that like we were just
36:59
talking about in Brazil like Capa they
37:01
mix that in and the Koreans um you know
37:05
they're smaller lighter uhhuh they could
37:08
be more Nimble they can do more air
37:09
moves and stuff like that right so you
37:13
know everybody got their advantages yeah
37:15
right uhhuh Benji uh who was who's an
37:18
Italian one of the Italian Legends
37:20
maritzio Yeah man so we you know we had
37:22
marissia on the show you did yeah okay
37:24
dope I couldn't believe it bro like I
37:28
couldn't believe he was sitting here on
37:29
this show cuz I was such a huge fan of
37:31
his well listen to this yeah I was
37:33
touring with him at 17 years old oh wow
37:36
so imagine how I felt you know like I
37:39
was on Jam On the Groove at 17 years old
37:43
you know fresh out of high school and
37:44
I'm I'm performing with Mr Wiggles
37:46
maritzio Ken Swift flow master like all
37:50
the greats and and you know that's how
37:52
that's how I started we have we have
37:55
flow master our brother flow master on
37:56
the show we always tried to support I'm
37:59
a boy too you know I'm not going hit the
38:02
Flor you
38:05
but all right my shoulders still work
38:07
crumbs let me get some more Junior's on
38:10
the line from Bay Area uh junior what up
38:13
brother hey Junior what up Jun hey
38:16
what's up what up what up uh yeah so I'm
38:18
from from San Jose um one of the one of
38:21
the break here a hell yeah 408 you
38:24
already know um so we got Playboy boy
38:27
Inc right y my cousin Lil whiz he's part
38:30
part of that crew and I tried all that
38:33
and my body ain't got it right I stick
38:35
to graph graffiti and [ __ ] and and is
38:38
there any any graffiti Crews part of
38:40
this Olympic team being you know like
38:42
doing like mural list and all that and
38:45
uh my SEC my other question is you know
38:47
everything that's going on in Palestine
38:49
there's a huge Palestinian breaking crew
38:51
out there too are they going to be in
38:53
this Olympic team I know there's a b
38:56
girl from Afghanistan that has been
38:58
added um I'm not sure about a
39:02
Palestinian B boy or be- girl yet um
39:06
yeah I'm not I I can't answer that
39:08
question hopefully you know um as far as
39:12
like graph and writers involved in the
39:14
Olympics there's going to be graph all
39:17
in the background all elements are going
39:18
to be connected some way somehow hip hop
39:21
will be represented to the fullest fire
39:23
and um speaking for you're from San Jose
39:25
I'm from the 209 Med
39:28
Central Valley of Cali and uh you know
39:30
we came up we came up at the the Raves
39:33
in the Bay Area and and and Frisco
39:36
freestyle sessions Oakland you know San
39:38
Jose we come to San Jose almost every
39:40
weekend to hit up Hollywood Junction I
39:42
don't know if you're old enough to
39:43
remember that a club in San Jose where
39:45
we we used to Cipher at every weekend
39:48
and we got we got deep ties to San Jose
39:50
going back from sidewalk Breakers in the
39:52
80s uh Playboy Inc you know um those are
39:56
my those those are my f you know Jrock
39:58
is from San Jose you know so yeah oh
40:00
yeah hell yeah n to Jrock and then uh no
40:03
well shout out to the uh Lord's crew
40:05
graffiti lorda that's from so that was a
40:09
great question you know why that's a
40:11
great question Junior and you're a
40:12
citizen too on it is I I often say this
40:15
is what I love about the culture it
40:17
supersedes everything it's the one
40:20
religion Keeps Us divided politics Keeps
40:23
Us divided all of these different thing
40:26
keeps us divided and
40:27
nobody loves what we see no I think
40:30
everybody is distraught about what's
40:32
happening in that region of the world
40:34
absolutely and I hope there are some
40:37
Palestinian dancers that are able to
40:39
make it because we as a culture
40:42
supersede global politics you can't
40:45
trick us and tell to telling us
40:47
something that ain't right is right you
40:49
know and something that's wrong is not
40:51
wrong but when you come through that
40:54
hip-hop cultural lens all of that gets
40:56
left at the doorway the youth uh will
41:00
prevail and The Architects will too
41:03
through hip hop I've seen hiph hop unite
41:06
people who cultures are enemies hip hop
41:10
is healing but they're in this room and
41:12
they're celebrating together because of
41:14
the culture right we don't even speak
41:17
the same language but when we dance we
41:19
speak the same language right we
41:21
communicate through through breaking we
41:23
communicate through writing through
41:24
mcing through all of it you know like it
41:27
it doesn't matter like I could be going
41:29
to any country and just see I'm in in my
41:32
Instagram hey I'm going to be in this
41:33
country I got people offering to stay at
41:35
their house and that I don't even know
41:37
they want to take care of me that that
41:38
show that love because they got that
41:40
love and respect for hip-hop and they do
41:42
what I do you know so it's immediate
41:44
connection so hip-hop is healing man all
41:46
around the world all around the world so
41:48
hopefully we'll see everybody
41:49
represented Tracy jump in this before I
41:51
hog the whole I mean listen you already
41:54
did that but anyway I got a couple more
41:56
questions so hurry up yeah CR wow crubs
41:59
I have a lot to ask you but limited on
42:00
time and obviously you know sway he's
42:03
such a major fan been of b boy culture
42:08
um one where did your name come from
42:11
because so many of those who are
42:14
involved in b boy have the most
42:16
interesting of names and two because
42:20
you're moving your body in such a unique
42:22
manner is there any like have you gotten
42:25
inspiration from like any type of
42:27
outlandish wild just one-of-a-kind
42:31
instances because sometimes I feel like
42:32
folks I wonder if they're even looking
42:34
at punctuation and attempting to make
42:36
like an exclamation point with their
42:38
body or if you look at animals and be
42:39
like hm I see the way that Critter is
42:41
moving let me see how I can put that
42:42
into my moves they
42:45
are that's it they are you know
42:47
inspiration comes from everything and uh
42:50
so with my name you know in hip-hop
42:52
you're given a name and my crew gave me
42:54
crumbs and basically it represents like
42:57
wherever I dance any Cipher stage I'm uh
43:00
I'm leaving pieces of of me behind for
43:02
others to pick up off spreading crumbs
43:04
dropping crumbs you know metaphor for
43:06
Styles um but yeah inspiration uh a lot
43:10
of my Inspirations come from like Jackie
43:12
Chan you know Bruce Lee you know I got
43:15
my head flips from Jackie Chan I was the
43:17
first to bring head flips into breaking
43:19
wow get out a round of applause toor
43:21
Jesus my first to bring head flips yeah
43:24
wow yeah but I got it from Jackie Chan
43:26
you know but I flipped and created my
43:28
own head flips as well um so things like
43:32
that you know Bruce Lee's energy uh
43:35
everything he represented you know I I
43:37
feel that that passion so it's like I'm
43:40
not I'm not going to take his his
43:42
straight kicks and moves but I'm going
43:43
to take that energy and use it in a b
43:46
boy fashion you know absolutely uh
43:48
nature Everything You Name It We we gain
43:51
uh inspiration from everywhere and
43:52
everything artists what you said like
43:55
like trees you know it's everything it's
43:58
grass blowing in the wind certain
44:00
movements um even like looking at infant
44:03
babies how they crawl around and they
44:05
manipulate their bodies and contort in
44:08
crazy ways I'll just sit there and watch
44:09
them like oh that was fresh you know
44:11
like I get ideas you know and just flip
44:14
it so really really just everything you
44:16
just got to open your eyes and accept it
44:18
and look right yeah I I got to I think
44:21
this is fun because in in rap we always
44:24
ask who's your top five
44:27
so I'm going ask you that in b boy
44:29
culture from the OG G's to now your spe
44:33
your personal top five it's so hard well
44:36
okay name five people that you think are
44:38
excellent even though you can't cuz I
44:39
didn't give you I believe like if you're
44:41
doing like a Mount Rushmore thing yo
44:42
Mount Rushmore I think that Mount
44:44
Rushmore should be from every there
44:45
should be one from every era you know
44:48
cuz so many people played a big part in
44:50
in and making it happen but um if I want
44:54
to say like my top five that kind of
44:56
influ influence me yes you know
44:59
definitely Ken Swift Prince Ken Swift
45:01
get that man around a legend you know um
45:06
remind remind that's your crew yeah
45:08
that's my brother came up together and
45:10
and learned so much from him ridiculous
45:13
he's the goat man um huge um man I would
45:20
probably put storm storm up there as
45:22
well from Europe yeah from I'm glad you
45:24
did that to when breaking kind of died
45:26
out Europeans kind of kept doing it Sal
45:29
salute to them over there I don't call
45:31
them Europeans but you know but salute
45:34
to them over there from theed
45:37
that big up big up to storm um oh man um
45:43
so two more M so tough you know I I
45:47
would put Crazy Legs in there too cuz he
45:49
kept the brand and you know he's been
45:51
the brand he had been the brand he was
45:53
the poster boy for breaking for so long
45:56
you know had the skills to back it up MH
45:58
right um and uh
46:03
last I would go
46:05
with probably Ivan people boy Ivan yeah
46:08
so you got two sty in there two rock
46:11
steady and and a battle Squad in the
46:14
battle Squad but listen that's just
46:16
that's just that's your personal that
46:18
that does there's so many greats now I
46:20
want to give you the opportunity is
46:21
there something that you want to you
46:23
know what I want to ask you when you
46:24
when you look at um um
46:27
well let me let me I'm G have this let
46:30
me get this one caller JT and Cape K
46:32
real quick what's your question J
46:34
JT e w side what's happened to fellas
46:37
well hold on one second JT I hit the
46:38
wrong person
46:40
[Music]
46:41
wow
46:42
s just come on the radio banging like
46:45
that I like his energy whatever let me
46:47
take JT JT you sound like you
46:51
break my move was the windmill okay the
46:55
windmill yeah
46:57
yeah everybody Kurt Thomas who
46:59
influenced the windmill was it Kurt
47:01
Thomas Kurt Thomas was the flare the
47:02
flare okay the Thomas flare all right
47:05
the windmill um what do you think about
47:08
what do do do so are B boys utilizing
47:11
social media to really brand the art
47:15
form because Tik Tock for example could
47:18
be a great arm to help put more exposure
47:22
to the dance yeah no definitely the
47:24
youth is for sure okay I do do what I do
47:27
as well you know a lot of us um older
47:30
Breakers are are are using social media
47:33
to let people know what's up and uh yeah
47:36
definitely that's you got to do that in
47:37
this time you know if you don't post
47:39
something in a week people think you're
47:41
retired or some [ __ ] right that's true
47:43
that's just the times we're living in so
47:45
yeah it definitely helps but um I think
47:48
we still got a ways to go but it's in
47:50
the right headed in the right direction
47:52
for sure what is it something anything
47:54
you would like to say in closing right
47:56
now
47:58
um really just like the stuff that we've
48:00
been talking about you know is really
48:02
important to me I think that um there's
48:05
power in numbers and when I say power in
48:07
numbers I mean power in elements right
48:10
so we need to come back together you
48:13
know the writers the MC's the DJs The
48:16
Breakers the fashion the knowledge
48:20
everything we need to come back together
48:22
start putting breaking in all hip-hop
48:24
back in rap videos and uh just start
48:27
helping each other out you know we got
48:29
to unify when I was coming up the
48:32
principles in Hip Hop was peace love
48:34
unity and having fun so um I don't see
48:37
that represented much in in a lot of uh
48:40
things these days so let's get back to
48:43
that y'all peace love unity and having
48:45
fun real hip hop I love that man come on
48:47
man be boy crumbso let's go B boy Crown
48:53
true Monster Squad come on spread the
48:55
word man that we need to get breaking in
48:57
the Olympics when it comes to the United
48:59
States La petitions whatever we got to
49:02
do hip hop can help hip hop can help and
49:05
when they see the results of the metrics
49:08
and analytics that come from what
49:10
happens in Paris France they're going to
49:12
beg the B boys to come in and rightfully
49:15
show as you should Crumbs are really
49:17
proud of you a man thank you man I met
49:19
you guys young y'all were young back
49:21
y'all were young men back then yeah kids
49:24
man kidss bro kids coming up and we
49:26
still here we're still here 30 plus
49:28
years later and you still look the same
49:30
yeah hey you EA nothing okay okay I
49:34
thought you was eating air Burgers bro I
49:35
don't know how you do it man [ __ ]
49:36
breaking keeps you young to all the B
49:38
boys and be girls in the world keep
49:41
doing what you do what what what it
49:43
represents is um expression it does
49:47
represent Unity breaking has broughten
49:50
people together from all different walks
49:52
of life your tax bracket doesn't matter
49:54
the Hue of your skin doesn't matter
49:56
nobody tripping on all these man-made
49:58
constructs that keep us divided your
50:01
religion doesn't matter how you eat none
50:04
of that politics is a big one you know
50:06
cuz it bleeds into the culture now like
50:08
everybody want to talks politics and
50:10
stuff and we ain't about that yeah you
50:13
know yeah not about that at all and uh
50:15
sway I want to I want to give you your
50:17
flowers too and salute you man like from
50:20
uh can I can I share my earliest
50:22
memories of you in King Tech know before
50:25
we met okay okay [ __ ] uh about to cry in
50:28
Modesto California you know rolling with
50:30
my man ly G and his Rodeo uh down
50:33
McKenry Avenue bumping
50:36
camel right uh we had to pull over in
50:39
the closest parking lot and just turn
50:41
the radio up because hieroglyphics was
50:43
battling Hobo Junction and uh this is
50:47
epic man this is I don't know if you
50:49
guys know or heard that but you know on
50:52
the radio station and uh Safir and Cat
50:54
Safir man even own a microphone your
50:58
blood owns no bones I'm teaching a
51:00
special ed classes teaching cowards how
51:01
to wipe them asses bro 94 flows like I
51:06
still it's still in my brain you know
51:08
what I mean MH um dude from back then
51:12
till now and Beyond you've stayed on
51:15
your path You' stayed true to the game
51:17
represented you provided a platform for
51:20
real hip-hop artists to battle and to
51:24
test their skills and that's what hip
51:26
hop is about and I think that's what a
51:28
lot of people forget but you don't let
51:30
people forget yeah amen you keep
51:32
reminding them you know so salute to you
51:34
man thank you man SW King Tech man
51:36
that's my brother King Tech man is yeah
51:38
shout out king Tech is the purest man
51:41
that's ever come out of the culture to
51:42
me he
51:44
hasn't Tech is the same man and and that
51:47
Vision a lot of that Vision was um
51:49
inspired by him as well so um you know
51:52
in that part him coming from competition
51:56
I followed his lead you know and um and
51:59
so he and I have always been on the same
52:01
Accord people don't see us together as
52:03
much cuz we on the opposite Coast but we
52:05
live together in La that's my brother
52:08
and and you my little brother man I'm so
52:10
proud of you man can I get a ticket to
52:12
the Olympics let's go all right cool man
52:14
get
52:15
up [ __ ] you can't miss history you can't
52:17
miss history I'm going to shout out
52:19
freestyle sessions right yes yes
52:21
freestyle session and you know Shameless
52:24
little plug I'm just proud of this [ __ ]
52:26
you know like like I told you freestyle
52:27
session is like is like the Super Bowl
52:31
of breaking right the biggest here in
52:34
the states and I won it six times like
52:37
the most in history
52:39
wow I just want to shout myself out on
52:41
that cuz that is like that's like on
52:44
some Jordan [ __ ] right that is six times
52:47
you know six times that's how many rings
52:48
he got too by the way yep yep and so
52:51
yeah man and all the folks at free talk
52:53
about who throw freestyle cross one
52:55
shout out to cross trying to get you the
52:57
shout out cross shout out cross he
52:59
started that in in uh I believe 97 was
53:02
the first you know and kept a consistent
53:05
year after year Asia one used to do yeah
53:08
B boy Summit yep started with Asia 1 and
53:11
easy rock and uh B boy Summit 96 was
53:15
classic um that's when styman that's
53:17
when we called out Rock Steady to battle
53:19
in the cipher and we battled for like an
53:21
hour right and that that's classic you
53:24
can look at look that up on YouTube and
53:26
stuff like that and that um that also
53:29
was a huge moment in Breaking you know
53:31
it was like Ching of the Guard Changing
53:33
of the Guard The Changing of the Guard
53:34
you know and um so so many so many
53:37
classic moments and classic events
53:39
around the the US that deserve their
53:41
props and respect that are still going
53:44
you know this man is like what Magic
53:46
Johnson and Michael Jordan and all those
53:48
names are to the NBA or whatever sport
53:51
or whatever field that the top person
53:55
exists you have met him today the one
53:57
and only beat boy crumb Y and I want the
54:00
world to embrace this conversation and
54:02
we need all beat boys and be girls to
54:05
circulate this interview spread it out
54:08
repost post repost post and we're going
54:11
to support ourselves to make sure that
54:13
we're we're in always in a great
54:15
position all right absolutely and shout
54:17
out to all the breakers around the globe
54:19
we talked about so much you know there's
54:20
so many too many to mention you know but
54:23
there's so many crews that played
54:25
pivotal parts and bring it break to
54:26
where it is today so uh all you guys are
54:29
celebrated respect and peace and love to
54:32
to all of you guys any any of you want a
54:34
name all too many to name there's too
54:36
many okay I'm going to give you you
54:37
didn't me okay good point good point B
54:40
boy crumbs you can follow me at B boy
54:41
crumbs BB o y c r u MBS B boy crumbs on
54:45
YouTube that's like my career Video
54:46
Vault from when I started till today so
54:49
go check that stuff out and support
54:51
appreciate you guys yeah I need all my
54:53
all the citizens man really this is
54:55
really interesting I want you to when
54:56
you go on his Instagram you'll
54:58
understand like he is defying the laws
55:02
of physicality with his body so make
55:04
sure you go to B boy crumbs b b o y c r
55:08
u m
55:10
BS we started today would just begun
55:14
which is to me the most legendary um B
55:17
boy Classics the Jimmy Caster Bunch but
55:20
we're going to conclude today with the
55:22
Incredible Bongo Band a hipop
55:27
Beat Boy soundtrack
55:31
Legend Apache Apache man yo he's is
55:35
classic oh go you about to get busy I
55:38
mean there ain't no room in here I'm
55:39
about to break the table down get camera
55:42
man he about to do something okay you
55:44
hear it okay hold up hold up I can hear
55:47
can hear it
56:11
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56:26
n
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