Discover the untold legend of hip-hop as Sway in the Morning welcomes Grandmaster Dee from the iconic group Whodini. In this exclusive interview, delve into the rich history of hip-hop with insights from one of its pioneering figures. Grandmaster Dee shares stories from the groundbreaking days of Houdini, their influence on the music industry, and the fusion of hip-hop with R&B that set the stage for future music genres. Celebrate the legacy of Houdini, as Sway and Dee discuss the group's innovative sound and the indelible mark they left on hip-hop culture. Don't miss this candid conversation filled with exclusive revelations and heartfelt tributes to legends like Ecstasy and Larry Smith.
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Intro
01:03 - Whodini's Influence on Hip-Hop
08:07 - Origin of Grandmaster D's Name
10:24 - Jalil's Impact on Hip-Hop Culture
11:49 - Whodini's Platinum Success
17:55 - Grandmaster Dee Discusses LL Cool J
21:26 - Remembering Ecstasy from Whodini
24:20 - Celebrating 50 Years of Hip-Hop
29:31 - Grandmaster Dee's Freestyle Performance
29:45 - Acknowledging Cultural Contributions
32:30 - Grandmaster Dee's Final Reflections
34:01 - Grandmaster Dee's Memorabilia Highlights
35:50 - Closing Thoughts on Hip-Hop Legacy
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Round of Applause Standing Ovation right
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here yes sir Standing Ovation keep get
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up get up get up keep the Applause going
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if you work for
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shade45 if you work for Hot 97 if you
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work for power anywhere in the country
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Houston wherever you work whatever radio
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station you work in whatever music
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business you are affiliated to or
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adjacent to then you should be Clapping
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Your Hands for our next guest right here
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for if it wasn't for his success his him
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and his partners and his group success
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their tenacity their Innovation we may
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not even be here today if it wasn't for
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groups like hini and I want to welcome
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grandmas D from Houdini to our set
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welcome the legend the icon Grand Master
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is it on thank you so much man that's an
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incredible intro man it's real man
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deserving it's real yes in
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1983 oh man wow they put out an album
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called
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Houdini I didn't know I was a child then
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but I loved the name Houdini cuz I
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studied Houdini in elementary the
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magician the
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magician and when this group came out
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and they had a song called magic wand M
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that song made me interested in this
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group cuz I thought it had something to
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do with magic and when I discovered that
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this was a hiph hop group that look like
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us dress like us sound like us talk like
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us I was blown away and it truly was
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magic cuz the music they were making uh
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was transforming the record business as
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we knew it I believe and I'll say this
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people like Curtis blow groups like uh
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sequence
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right uh groups like The treacherous
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three uh groups like the cold Crush
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Brothers Who and the Crash Crew the
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Crash Crew groups like the Crash Crew
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who did a lot of Melodies and harmonies
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in their music um and what Houdini was
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able to do from records is combine a
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sound that was more R might be leaned
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R&B with hipop ComEd combined together
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it was a fusion that we hadn't seen done
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like that in 19 83 and that was able to
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usher in the music uh music genres like
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New Jack Swing or when we start seeing
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um bad boy and Mary Jay sing over hip
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hop beats and Kid Capri was giving
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everybody the break beats to make their
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songs and they were putting singers on
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it but Houdini was the first to really
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in my opinion embrace it wholeheartedly
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and make that a part of their lure so I
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want to say congratulations and thank
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you for that grandm D am we want to say
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rest and power to ecstasy
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yes and rest in peace to Larry Smith the
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producer the producer um getting on that
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you know we wanted to be different you
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know a lot of groups out back then were
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just drum beats and it sound like they
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was making into the basement so we
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wanted to on be fill not only that jalo
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came up with the idea of us being well
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dressed so I kept a little B boy and I
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kept a little classy yeah so we had a
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little bit of everything he had the dark
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skin brother had the brown skin and had
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the lightskinn so what it was we wanted
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to come in the industry by Strong by
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storm but the lyrics took us that way
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yeah jalo was one of the greatest
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writers of all time when it comes to
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hipop and he doesn't get a lot of credit
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that he deserve Just Like Larry Smith
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don't and to me ecstasy had one of the
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greatest voices may he rest in peace and
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his deliverance and his stage present
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meant so much but um I really say my hat
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goes off to Larry Smith because Larry
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Smith made Houdini sound like Houdini he
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made rund DMC sound like Run DMC he made
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the Fat Boys sound like The Fat Boys and
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made Curtis blow sound like Curtis blow
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so that's what you call a great producer
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because if he had Houdini and you got
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Rundy MC it was two two different styles
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yeah so they were hardcore uhhuh so we
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were the one with the Clean Cut y'all
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were smooth yeah yes yes but hard at the
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same time the beachs was very hard was
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hard because with funky beef for example
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right and then when you look at some of
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the old footage back then one of the
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most amazing things I would see is I
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would see Cliff yeah Cliff love Cliff
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love he used to dance with Cliff love
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man get that man a round of applause man
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come
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[Applause]
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on it was um The Blessing was too we
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didn't record here in the states y went
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overseas we recorded in London we would
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stay three months out the year and live
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in London and you know at that time the
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first album and the Escape album they
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went over before I did because that's
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when I had just got married at that time
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so I didn't go then and but um that's
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when Larry joined on board but being
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over there when I did go and we created
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the the um the um funky bead and the one
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love one love funky bead uh my
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brother-in-law was like yo Drew y'all
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need to come back funky cuz I heard Run
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DMC was coming with King of Rock uhhuh
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so I said Larry you know what you made
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Jam Master J uh a track and I I need a
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DJ track but I want a rap cuz I us to be
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a rapper before I okay I didn't know
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that but I I used to like when you
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jumped on the track though yeah he got a
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lot of love and the women was going
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crazy that was a blessing but um I got
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kind of homesick and I said um my
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brother-in-law said yo we got to make
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something funky so I said all right I
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went to the to the store in the corner
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and got me a six-pack in h again y
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little L said you know how how they be
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yes do it before they get in here okay
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so I had to use a
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909 so when I dropped that I went in
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there and said funy be funky beat and I
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know all DJs back then like AJ scratch
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you know when you hear these records so
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many scratches on different tracks you
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can't do it live yeah so I said I'm
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gonna make it simple but when I get on
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stage I can Jazz it up so I said
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and then from there on stage I
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go so I made it plain and simple now
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once I left back to the States Larry
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Smith called me and said Drew whatever
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song come before this or after this it's
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going to be have be real hard and strong
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he add he said listen I
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heard I said yo where'd you get that he
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said we ready we ready and that's when I
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came and created remember what I was
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doing last year I said last fresh Fest I
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was rocking good time and I was cutting
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it up on the turn now this fresh Fest
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I'm busting out ryms when I'm on to set
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take total control rock your mind your
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feet your body your soul and it went
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from there then jalo added their verses
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and it just took that's how funky beat
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man damn [Â __Â ] and then when you look at
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the video footage I'm not sure if that's
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funky beat there a couple of songs some
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old footage of y'all and you also got
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UTF Kango kid and dark ice and let me
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tell you story about that video okay lot
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of people don't they were your dancers
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in the background that's who produced
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that video who Melvin Van van pees oh
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wow who would nobody knew it's Mariel's
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father he did that video we had um the
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king of black
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exploitation come to Harlem right so we
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had um I did not know that that's crazy
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we had a star studed video I mean the
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beastly boys Jam Master J um who else is
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um Bernard Wright it was so many Cynthia
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hor it was so many people in there wow
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man star studed okay so let me okay this
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is Grandmaster D couple questions who
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coined you Grandmaster how did you earn
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the name cuz you can't just be called
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grandm come on man right it's like you
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gotta be kned so so funny man um my
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freshman year at high school right
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before I got into that school I was
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going to school in Brooklyn so moved
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from Brooklyn to a place called
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Roosevelt Isen mhm and we got there I
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had to go to school called juliia
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Richmond and when I first got in there
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as a freshman that's when I first
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discovered hip hop and master Dawn and
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whiz kid became one of my teachers you
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got to see you got to tell people when
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you say their names who is Master Don
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Master Don is from the group called uh
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Master Don the death committee he they
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made the song This is called the font
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box this is how it plays it would make
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you dance no matter what the age now get
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up on on the floor and boogie boogie to
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the beat now once you hear this funk
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through it'll make you move your feet
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and then it make you
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[Music]
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go that's where Master P got that
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from wow yeah and then who's the whiz
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kid that you mentioned because a lot of
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kid mate play that beat want to play for
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me Mr DJ play for the Hip
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Hop yeah they both pass away man take my
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hat off to them may they rest in peace
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wow and um I'm glad you bringing them up
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cuz who else is going to talk about it
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nobody else talks about it and you know
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another thing a lot of people speak
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about the Bronx yeah but when I was
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going to school a lot of people from
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Harlem a Crash Crew Mike and Dave was
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the biggest party givers in Harlem and
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spoony G bzy B starski all these guys
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was to me was icons at that time and the
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cold Crush Brothers I used to open up
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for them and their manager I mean Flash
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manager Ray Chandler was W up being my
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manager grandm flash when I when I first
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started my name was Master D so I
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started seeing Grandmaster Flash and
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Grand was a theater I said man forget
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the master D I got to be a Grandmas so
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that's when I came up with the name
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grandm d and and it stuck with me nobody
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ever challenged you on that no no okay
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grandmas D I love that man Jal um I had
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a a beautiful opportunity to talk to him
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on the phone maybe I don't know maybe a
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year or so ago rich nice had put us on
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the phone and and he was just telling me
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some amazing stories about y' history
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and being on tour and and one of the uh
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first the first tour I ever bought a
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ticket to to go see was the fresh Fest
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right and in 1986 I want to say or 87
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somewhere y'all came to Oakland
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California short opened up to us yeah to
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short open up for you and it was the
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biggest thing ever let me tell you so C
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you know short short was our local hero
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but we had never seen him next to the
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Giants of rap you know the run dmc's the
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Eric being Rock Kim this is when NWA was
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still coming up right cuz they were on
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it too right and two sh opened up and we
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could not believe it and I saw y'all
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perform and that's when I understood
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that there's levels to this right you
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know uh I never saw a real professional
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rap group perform M right and it was
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very professional the way the show was
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ecstasy's voice to me is in the top 10
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voices of all time right and the way
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y'all looked and presented yourselves um
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that moment was um a transformative
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moment for me cuz after
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that I was set on what I wanted to do
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you know and who I wanted to be like
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y'all had a song called uh one love mhm
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and that song was very important to me
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at the time because it it it was so
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positive right and it talked about love
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and loss and you know and how you strive
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Beyond it how did that song was that
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that seemed like that was a song y'all
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sat down and talked about that was Jal
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and Larry Smith okay but jalow came up
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with the idea uhhuh and like I said man
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once his pen hit the paper like Kane
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said oh [Â __Â ] that that's how gifted he
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was like Freaks Come Out of night he
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seen the girl standing in front of the
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club with the fish neck stockings on her
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arm and spikes and he said freaks come
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out at night and he wrote that and went
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from there and big mouth girls around
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his neighborhood was saying when you
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going to make a record about me when you
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going to make a record about me and
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that's how big
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mouth they call you mouth Almighty
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tongue Everlasting you ain't satisfied
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Les something's happening don't have to
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be there no more during a minute but you
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always got to have your two cents in
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it imagine asking for a song if that's
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what you get man you got big mouth over
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there you got it we got to hear Big
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Mouth 888 888 742 3345 Grandmaster D
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Houdini Is Here Yeah
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1983 yes the the album Houdini came
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out 1984 the album Escape came out back
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to black came out after that6
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86 what was the first album to go
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platinum first having the hit Platinum
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escape to us you know far as we know but
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now they saying you know Back in Black
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went you know but we was the first to
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sell a million album Houdini okay oh
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wait say that again Houdini was the
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first to sell a million albums in
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hip-hop yes Houdini was the first to
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sell a million albums in hip-hop you are
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looking at the first Platinum Group out
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of hi hip hop right here grandm D And
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Houdini some some would argue or some
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would argue and said Run DMC Run DMC but
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I look at it we both went platinum okay
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and I take it like that you know cuz
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back then nobody was going Platinum yeah
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and y'all both went platinum yes who
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went who went
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first who went platinum first Houdini
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Houdini went platinum first okay all
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right that's you know wow and that
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confusion never bothered you D even back
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then no you know what I don't get into
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that you know you both making money and
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we on the road doing what we got to do
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it doesn't matter long as we win
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Platinum okay I like I look at it like
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that I'll shake a run and DMC hand we
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did it because not only that we built
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the tour first rap tour to ever go out
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and it was always battling every night
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neck to neck everybody who got the
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loudest scream we' go back in the dress
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room yeah yeah we did it we did it you
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know it was competitive like that yes
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and then watching LL come up on Down the
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Line yeah and he grew up as in the game
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under us and L wanted he wanted the
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headline uhuh so it was a toss up every
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time but the best thing about that was
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we all came from the same camp under
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Russell Simmons was our manager so we
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all was together as one unit we went on
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the road Eric B Rock him all of us we
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stuck together as a family that's why I
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can't understand why some groups can't
15:26
be in the same building at the same time
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I don't get it you don't get that right
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it's love it's all about love and
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respect y'all a little more mature than
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most groups Who start off in the game at
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that time though so y it was a little
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different like y'all y'all wasn't just
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rapping for fun you know he was rapping
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for legacy you know what I mean when I
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hear big mouth I think of you talk too
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much and I always was curious because
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you know we read all the credits we were
15:50
on every song of everybody's album so
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when songs sounded alike we wondered if
15:54
people collaborated or I always said
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that out you know it's like when we came
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with one love and we felt then LL came
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with I need I need love I never even
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thought of that watch out now and you
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got big mouth and then RMZ had you talk
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too much you never shut up I said love
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that song You Talk Too homeboy you never
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shut up right yeah but you know it was
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all good everybody came out with great
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songs that was on them TS and the
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beginning stages to rock him uhhuh and
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and for him to come was that like was he
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like I'm tell you a story I saw him the
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other day in con Allen at the show never
16:34
forget this when we was on the the uh
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airplane coming home I think it was
16:38
Oklahoma we were leaving from we would
16:40
go home to see our family like three
16:42
days and didn't get back meet the tour
16:43
bus at the airport with next city we go
16:46
to me and rock Kim was sitting side by
16:49
side plane his pack plane dropped like
16:53
200 feet down dropped whoa and we had
16:55
drinks on on on a tray yeah flew up in
16:59
the air sters fell Rock him looked at me
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I looked at him I said yo he started
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praying next thing you know when we
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landed Rock himim said Mark this D I'm
17:12
never getting on another flight you know
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he ain't been on the flight since he
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ain't been on the FL he won't fly wow
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everywhere if you got to go to
17:21
California driving no way he's not he's
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not flying oh that's why I maybe okay
17:28
sorry a couple things together that was
17:30
it that thing dropped so I was nervous
17:32
too but way it dropped like over 20 I
17:34
mean straight everything flying in the
17:36
end and stward is fell that was it what
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year was that it had to be about 84 [Â __Â ]
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rockim ain't been on the plane since
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then no he ain't been he won't get on
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that's traumatizing ask him when you see
17:48
him he won't get on wow okay I I'll
17:50
definitely do that Grandmaster D is
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here this is live and oh my god let's
17:57
talk LL yeah
17:59
I always tell people LL was our first
18:01
team pop star you know to come out of
18:03
Hip Hop and he was uh and I mean this in
18:07
terms of impact and effect and not in
18:09
terms of Talent OR quality he was Justin
18:11
Bieber for us you know what I mean he
18:14
was whatever Teen Idol you know of
18:17
that's who LL was and he was ushering in
18:19
this whole new energy right yes did Jos
18:23
recognized that uhoh this storm is
18:26
coming the game is about to change what
18:28
was it like what was you know what it
18:30
was let me tell you something ll at
18:32
Russell's office we used to be in 11:33
18:35
Broadway the small office first got a
18:37
chance to meet him I took him around I
18:40
us to ride him in my call time take him
18:41
to the parties or whatever and then um I
18:45
took him in the
18:46
roxies one night I think Chris Rock and
18:48
the free wh was all in there hello just
18:51
came out with um I need a beat M and it
18:55
was hot you know the dep J Records Was
18:58
Hot at the time so he got on stage one
19:01
of the nights and he said something
19:04
happened with the crowd doing something
19:06
and he said f Brooklyn oh and I looked
19:12
oh I looked I saw people coming El was
19:18
gone said he ran he ran out I think he
19:21
had to come out the back door but when
19:23
we met up later on he called me and my
19:25
boy Greg was there he called and he said
19:27
yo yo D where y'all at where you at I
19:29
just wanted to know why' you say
19:32
that but he hung around us all the time
19:37
and and then but I can tell his energy
19:40
was going to he was going to be an
19:42
incredible rapper and then when he came
19:45
kept coming kept coming then he added uh
19:47
bobcat and Cut Creator and he got better
19:50
each record each record but um I'm happy
19:54
for him because he stayed in the game
19:57
and he never gave up and look he saw it
19:59
he saw he saw he saw it did he Express
20:02
that this the guy that used to work with
20:04
him he passed away um I forgot that guy
20:08
that guy showed L uhuh about how to go
20:11
to be a movie star he was talking to L
20:14
back then nobody really knew what they
20:15
was talking about he let L know you
20:18
gonna make it what did y'all think when
20:19
y'all saw when you first saw L like was
20:22
it in the house or one of the the the
20:24
move the series he's done no when I got
20:27
around him after a while when I knew he
20:29
was getting big when he started getting
20:30
on these shows then when he hit the
20:32
screen I said he getting ready to blow
20:35
and once I seen him in was in the house
20:38
and then after that he went to to the uh
20:40
what's this CS yeah the the CSI joint
20:43
was and then he started hosting yeah
20:46
gramy and I said he's out of here movies
20:49
we we skipped about 20
20:51
movies like cuz once he hit Hollywood he
20:54
was in he was in and at that time you
20:56
got to look at Will Smith was being in
20:58
there too at the time so um a lot of
21:01
people was coming but only a few can get
21:03
in that door but he had that that drive
21:07
that drive that I'm goingon to make it
21:08
and ain't nobody gonna stop me he
21:10
thought that's that way when he get on
21:12
stage the same way them early days of
21:14
Death Jam salute to LL and rock the
21:16
bells you know we got a yeah good
21:18
looking out LL for throwing me on that
21:20
rock the bells to the um boat ride
21:22
matter of fact yeah man LL is a a very
21:25
solid solid individual uh let's come
21:28
back to Houdini uh what can you share
21:30
about ecstasy uh now that he's no longer
21:33
with us what kind of man was he his
21:35
daughter worked at over at vcom at MTV
21:37
you recall this and I remember he called
21:40
me and said my daughter's looking for
21:42
work and he said sway hook her up he
21:44
didn't even ask
21:46
me figure it out bro he said he sway exy
21:50
ain't never called I like said sway hook
21:52
her up yes
21:53
sir and we got her his daughter up in
21:56
the MTV boy you know when I speak about
22:00
exit it just gives me chills and you
22:02
know sometimes this make me want to tear
22:05
up yeah but um his Deliverance his
22:10
personality he treated everybody well he
22:13
was like me We gemin and thing about him
22:16
he loved people he loved his family and
22:19
um the thing about that well I take my
22:22
hat off to jalo jalo was the rider but
22:25
he let X lead he most time right or if
22:29
he right he's going to lead but he gave
22:31
X all the lead parts and he did the back
22:34
I did not know this J wrote everything
22:36
he wrote everything yes both love and
22:39
life both half or letters but they're
22:41
two different things all together see I
22:44
like when he women in my day but like
22:46
the women they all blown away J wrote
22:49
that if the way X flowed on that record
22:51
you would have think he wrote it yeah
22:53
yeah J WR it so friends the everything
22:56
yes everything wrote that yeah they
23:01
don't talk about him enough no that's
23:03
that's why I said I take my hat off to
23:05
him a lot of people they would have
23:06
thought like when we first came out
23:08
everybody thought X was Houdini but the
23:11
group was Houdini yeah so cuz X always
23:14
had the lead part so they think and he
23:15
had that hat yeah yeah you know that was
23:18
another funny story about that too with
23:20
the hat when I first saw him you know us
23:22
being from Brooklyn we wearing balys or
23:24
or or British walkers and you know
23:26
coming out fly and that first time we
23:28
did that I saw Coliseum and I looked at
23:31
him I said yo he had them leather shorts
23:33
on and I looked at them white boots I
23:36
said X you going on stage like
23:39
that I said yo we from Brooklyn What You
23:42
Man X said yo watch and Nick said you
23:45
know it took off they they they wanted
23:47
to see him come on stage them shorts and
23:49
the hat then everybody in the audience
23:51
had the Hat on had to hat on trans
23:54
Setters yes trans Setters and back then
23:57
feeling so great about it because we
24:00
were the typee of group you know wasn't
24:02
just talking about oursel J wrote
24:04
stories heot so then you had to look at
24:06
we were the type of group your mother
24:07
and father said I don't really like too
24:09
much rap cuz they talking about their
24:11
Stu but I like Houdini cuz they talking
24:14
about something yeah and you know that's
24:17
that's what we felt good about man
24:18
that's a blessing it's a blessing man
24:20
Grandmaster D is here you know with the
24:25
um the 50 years of hip-hop Banner that's
24:28
been waved for the past couple of years
24:30
and I don't even know if hip hop owns it
24:34
um that's whole another
24:36
story
24:38
wow sway getting it going
24:42
now um you know w w w with that being
24:46
said you're starting to see a lot of
24:49
resurgence you're seeing groups that
24:51
we're talking about from the 80s now in
24:53
the '90s that are on tour and they're
24:56
selling out venues what are your
24:58
thoughts on that my thought is it was
25:00
great music yeah it was great music back
25:03
then and um you can identify the
25:05
beginning stages of hip-hop but those
25:07
real heads know that that old school
25:10
hip-hop and seeing that you mentioned
25:12
that 50 years of hip-hop how could you
25:14
not include Houdini yeah how how come
25:19
Houdini is not in the Rock and Roll Hall
25:21
of Fame that part yeah I mean when when
25:24
you get 25 years I heard you're supposed
25:26
to enter it but the group that they
25:28
putting it now came after
25:30
us yeah so that that's what I look at
25:33
you know my mom gets upset about that
25:36
you know they they did the Grammys and
25:38
the big 50 Anniversary they didn't even
25:41
mention us yeah and that's not right you
25:45
know what's right is right and what's
25:46
wrong is wrong but as long as I live we
25:50
should have not have a set time on when
25:53
you should start rapping you don't say
25:56
that about rock and roll groups you got
25:58
look at M Jager is still out there uh
26:01
Rod Stewart's still out there the who is
26:03
still out there so you know they got
26:04
like a age limit on rap but look U Gil
26:08
Scott Haron was rapping yes he was Bill
26:11
with us so you think about it what I'm
26:13
doing now to keep our name alive I'm
26:17
going every which in way where God's
26:19
leading me wherever God takes me I'm
26:21
going so I'm trying to keep the name
26:23
alive until you know jalo ready to come
26:27
out we we can do this is that is that a
26:30
a possibility that John L come out yes
26:33
it might be a little while you know okay
26:35
and when he's ready you know he took
26:37
that hard about X and so I'm just
26:39
waiting on him but I'm just running
26:41
around and doing whatever I can do it
26:43
sometime I even get on the mic and do a
26:45
little freestyle well I heard you last I
26:48
heard you ook B last week
26:51
man I was at Brooklyn Bowl when you came
26:54
out and grabbed the mic from Juvenile
26:55
and start
26:57
spining I said yo if you got the
26:59
spotlight you got to do it yeah you
27:01
freestyle it
27:03
today why you looking at me
27:05
D oh know give me that give me that beat
27:09
you got
27:10
[Music]
27:13
that now show it prove my style
27:17
meanwhile as I stand on the top of the
27:21
pot I said some of them dancing some of
27:22
them shaking giving them what they got
27:24
but some of them mo but some of them gr
27:26
but this is kind of hot grand in the
27:28
place to be and if it's all right with
27:30
you it's all right with me I said
27:33
stepping in the party I'm with my crew
27:35
I'm M around the way they said Drew I
27:38
never hesitate to do what I do I flip
27:41
the cross fth the one to the two I be
27:43
the magic man with magic hands I'm the C
27:47
this so my man says Grand spending
27:50
turntables never Fable since young
27:53
catching hunts with the haos brothers
27:55
got beef Brothers got grief it's no Le I
27:58
pull them just like te press we wine
28:01
better mind what I said it's nothing new
28:03
grand do this on her right she a not
28:05
ready she not steady she not ready no
28:09
she not steady she not ready she not
28:12
ready yeah she not
28:25
ready y wasn't ready I wasn't ready that
28:30
was too good I was not ready yo hip hop
28:34
is Ageless
28:35
bro No Ceilings that was it yeah I told
28:39
you I was a rapper before I was a DJ yo
28:42
I'm listen to what he said what she play
28:44
oh get on the turntables I'm from around
28:47
the
28:52
way so put your hands up so put your
28:55
hands up so put your hands up put your
28:57
hands up I it's time to roll it's time
29:00
to take control I take the beat and I
29:03
rock it with soul it's that time to rock
29:06
and groove and when I get up on the mic
29:08
I sound real
29:13
smooth you so much fun oh my
29:18
gosh oh my gosh what what he did that
29:22
should say ease up SEL like the same
29:23
style
29:24
scene Lord have mercy Lord
29:28
mer oh man D this is amazing man this is
29:33
amazing GI we learned a lot today we got
29:35
more to do you got to come back up
29:37
please all right can you do a set for us
29:39
one day you do a 30 minute set for us
29:42
yeah yeah yeah I would love
29:44
to brother let me say this to you um
29:48
there was a time where my cousin Chuck
29:51
uh my brother T Callaway Terry Callaway
29:54
we were
29:55
Houdini oh man one of us was ecstasy one
29:58
of us was Jil and one of us was you and
30:01
we switched up and when the L the L I
30:05
used to do the one love dance y right
30:08
the O the O the O and the V the V the E
30:13
the E what do that spell love but but I
30:17
want to personally thank you for the um
30:19
the inspiration and the and and for me I
30:22
want to look you in your eye for let me
30:24
know giving me the audacity to let me
30:26
know that I can achieve my dream too
30:29
right because your dream helps shape and
30:32
mold my dream and I would not be here
30:35
had I not saw y'all in concert wow and
30:37
walked away with that I would have went
30:39
a totally different direction I was
30:40
leaning towards law I was going to be
30:42
law you I wanted to go to Hastings and
30:45
study law but um I want to thank you and
30:49
the fact that you're my friend and I
30:51
could call you late at night and we
30:53
could interact and do all of these
30:54
different things it's very surreal you
30:57
are special uh Jalil ecstasy rest in
31:00
power are special Larry Smith all the
31:03
people that help form Houdini or special
31:06
should be acknowledged as such um you
31:09
don't need nobody else's validation
31:11
although it would be great if the Rock
31:12
and Roll Hall of Fame yes would
31:14
acknowledge y Grammys and all these
31:16
other establishments could acknowledge
31:18
you but know that the impact that you
31:20
made is beyond that acknowledgement we
31:23
are here if I wasn't here she wouldn't
31:25
be here that's a fact he wouldn't be
31:27
here he wouldn't be here none of us
31:28
would be here and doing what it is we're
31:30
doing and that's because of people like
31:32
you uh specifically this group Houdini
31:35
who is one of the greatest hip-hop
31:36
groups of all time we even discussed
31:39
that when we used to do our list and I
31:40
make sure if you don't the reason why
31:42
people don't don't mention it CU they
31:44
don't know and you got to check your
31:46
ignorance at the door and do to
31:49
knowledge if you're going to become a
31:51
voice or some type of authority in this
31:54
do the knowledge do your research right
31:56
don't stop it do it with every other
31:58
genre do it with hip hop and recognize
32:00
these people who are part of the
32:02
building blocks that allow us to be here
32:04
today to be do our podcast right to have
32:07
our platforms to do all this stuff and
32:09
so if that tour wasn't successful you
32:12
wouldn't have been able to get insurance
32:13
for other tours you would be able to get
32:15
in other venues for other rap tours and
32:18
so I want to say thank you Grand Master
32:20
D I
32:23
appreciate come on man I love you
32:26
brother come on it was too much f man
32:28
come on man anything you want to say in
32:30
closing man you want to say anything to
32:31
folks so we going to end with one one
32:33
love so all right I want to shout J
32:35
little out you know and um ecstasy rest
32:38
in peace and um I think The Best Is Yet
32:42
To Come like I said I'm following God's
32:44
way wherever he takes me I'm going I
32:46
want to shout out to respected DJs and
32:49
just just mix and all the other DJs in
32:53
the world like open the doors for me
32:55
like flash and Grand was a theater
32:58
and um the the way you stay successful
33:02
is being humble and being real and when
33:05
you respect the game the game respects
33:07
you like Each one teach one but I want
33:09
to send the this message out to the
33:11
community that the adults need to get
33:14
back in the community and help raise
33:16
these kids like we did back when we was
33:18
coming up because so many young brothers
33:21
and sisters are losing their life over
33:24
nonsense so get back in that Community
33:27
you know I thank God for the boys club
33:29
and Pao when I was growing up and these
33:31
summer tournaments that we played and my
33:33
dream was to be an NBA player but the
33:34
rap game came and so you know when God
33:37
Ste you somewhere you'll go yeah so my
33:40
thing is my hat off to everybody who's
33:42
doing positive things like y'all here
33:45
don't stop keep going because we need
33:47
y'all for that platform to keep this
33:49
thing alive and um Rock and Roll Hall of
33:52
Fame look up for grandm D and jalow and
33:56
ecstasy and um bless each and everybody
33:59
that's out there in the world grandm D
34:02
if you please can I show y'all some of
34:04
the stuff you wanted me to yo yo yo yo
34:05
yo yeah you what you bring oh man he
34:09
brought some memorabilia
34:11
hey some closeups on that too Drew and
34:14
get some separate b-roll on that too you
34:17
say here
34:18
man directing right here okay oh what is
34:21
this this is a
34:22
proclamation and this is uh the Office
34:26
of the President BW of uh Brooklyn city
34:29
of New
34:31
York William Drew Carter aka Grandmaster
34:35
D Celebration Day in Brooklyn USA oh you
34:39
got your own day yes let's get we got
34:42
the grandm D is October grandmas D
34:45
Celebration Day in Brooklyn is October
34:48
17th wow congratulations wowow all right
34:53
and then what you got right here in um
34:56
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame DJ you DJ the
34:59
rock and roll Amigo DJ was there too and
35:02
y'all know who that guy is right there
35:04
right Married with
35:08
Children DJ Now
35:12
what David fosto good for is he nice is
35:15
he good he got on for a second okay and
35:18
then what year was this this was uh a
35:21
year and a half ago okay fire nice man
35:24
that's beautiful you got any of the the
35:26
old the Wardrobe from back in the day
35:28
too no I
35:30
had my God I had all the daan
35:34
stuff you gave it away yes to family yes
35:38
okay oh man I had all the when I wore
35:41
that Louis Vuitton on um a sen Hall yeah
35:44
D said yo D my phone is ranging off the
35:46
hook he said they going crazy for that
35:48
suit wow yeah man hey man we got more to
35:52
talk about grandm D Man the Legacy will
35:54
always stay alive here Sway in the
35:56
Morning have the be Tracy G shout out to
35:58
J Li we love you brother uh peace to
36:01
ecstasy uh shout out to Larry
36:03
Smith um grandm master
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