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CHAPTERS:
0:50 - Out of Business 25th Anniversary
4:55 - Remembering Jam Master Jay
6:42 - Spotlight on DJ Scratch
12:21 - Tribute to Craig Mack
16:03 - PMD's Upcoming Events London Show
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0:01
yo Smith is here
0:03
pm he forgot we did that that was in
0:06
2017 bro crazy 1920 1 2 3 4 S years ago
0:11
W years ago that time moving man yo this
0:16
this my brother right here man listen
0:18
man when I tell you this man he man this
0:21
man stood next to King Tech and I when
0:23
we had a dream with the wakeup show and
0:24
they came over EPMD would always come to
0:27
the West Coast that's why we close to e
0:29
and p man y my brothers man why close to
0:32
this is beyond rap it's Bigger Than Rap
0:34
Beyond rap Beyond rap man but we are
0:37
becoming those figures in history yes
0:41
presently um that's moving towards the
0:43
future that we should all really
0:46
recognize and appreciate so I say this
0:49
to Paris Smith um as we celebrate EP and
0:53
debut with the album strictly business
0:55
what year was that P that was
0:58
1988 gosh my go mm nobody applauded we
1:03
broke North come on man please listen to
1:06
My Demo please listen to My Demo um
1:08
business never personal unfinished
1:11
business and uh right now we got some
1:13
more unfinished business we got PMD is
1:16
up in here give him a round of applause
1:18
come on man yes thank you thank you P um
1:22
so out of business came out in 1999
1:25
right that's correct 25 years ago mhm so
1:28
this is the 25th 5th year anniversary of
1:31
out of business when you have these 20
1:33
and 25 year
1:35
anniversaries um is it surreal uh yeah
1:38
because it's a checkpoint you're
1:40
supposed to stay on top of it yeah like
1:42
there's the saying like if you put your
1:44
work out there you supposed to stay up
1:46
on top of your catalog okay so if you
1:48
have an album that comes out one two
1:50
three you could just be doing whatever
1:52
working on something that you really
1:54
believe in but then you realize hey yo
1:56
it's the 10 10 year anniversary it's the
1:58
20 year anniversary or the 25th then you
2:01
owe it to your fans and people who look
2:03
up to you to take the time put something
2:05
special together for them to show them
2:08
your appreciation because now we're in
2:10
the times of giving back like we got I
2:12
got 37 years in this so it comes to a
2:15
point where you got to stop and say like
2:18
yo yeah 87 sleeping bag records it's my
2:21
thing your customer so there comes a
2:23
point where you have to get back to Hip
2:25
Hop okay and that's one of the ways by
2:28
the uh like the the free download what
2:30
it's on you as opposed to I'm putting
2:32
something together I'm trying to sell
2:33
you something there comes a time where
2:35
you got to sit back evaluate yo let me
2:37
do this for my fans and with us our
2:39
catalog is so big it's kind of
2:41
challenging staying up with all of them
2:44
but how would that be if your fans know
2:46
and then the day comes up and you don't
2:48
even acknowledge it yeah it kind of says
2:50
where you are as an artist like you're
2:53
not even tapped in yo you can have a fan
2:56
be like 25 I know I know they gonna do
2:59
something and then it goes by and you
3:01
don't got a remix you ain't put a
3:02
t-shirt out you ain't give a free
3:04
download or nothing like that you know
3:06
and with us that's the beauty of to be
3:09
honest respecting the blessing
3:11
respecting the blessing okay because if
3:13
you have it
3:15
you look at the catalog it's your job to
3:18
actually know when all of these dates
3:20
are coming and it's pretty cool yeah
3:21
it's pretty cool man otherwise it's like
3:23
missing a loved one's birthday yeah or
3:26
you watching you're looking as opposed
3:28
to working with inside yourself cuz then
3:31
you would know these dates are coming up
3:33
you know 25 when you got the and so I
3:35
know we always people like to push the
3:37
narrative that rap is a Young Person's
3:39
culture but I think we're finding out
3:41
that that's a narrow way of thinking
3:43
about things when you can celebrate and
3:45
you got music streaming 25 years later
3:48
if you think that way you're going to
3:50
hurt yourself that's correct you're
3:51
going to cut off your blessings because
3:54
we are all active yes you know what I
3:56
mean and I heard y the other morning y
3:58
was live I was up moving around
4:00
something this was kind of the tone so I
4:01
was like oh wow and Hip-Hop that's the
4:03
tone and up here's the tone so when you
4:06
actually put it all together that's what
4:07
hip hop was it was a free forum to think
4:10
if you think you can do it then you can
4:12
actually do it but somewhere along the
4:16
line that narrative got lost like we
4:19
were just talking about Joiner like
4:21
terroris one before we even got on mhm
4:25
Chris criminal-minded I was on a college
4:28
campus and I had the build build my own
4:30
car okay so as you make progress in this
4:33
game it's up for you as the culture
4:36
begins to evolve to always know where
4:38
you sit so when rockim and Big Daddy
4:42
Kane and was dropping songs we didn't
4:43
even have a contract yet so when you
4:45
meet them then they give back the same
4:48
camaraderie but there's the say never
4:50
get too big for yourself I like that PMD
4:53
is here uh you know well said you
4:56
brought up earlier when in the
4:58
conversation with join Lucas
5:00
um how Run DMC put and Jam Master J let
5:04
you guys allows you guys to ride on
5:05
their tour bus because you didn't have
5:06
the money you couldn't afford to do it
5:07
and you definitely didn't have the
5:08
support um I'm wondering how do you feel
5:11
about J MJ's murder being solved finally
5:15
and oh wow yeah well it's closure okay I
5:19
say it's kind of closure and again the
5:22
way I feel about Jay you know Jay was
5:24
like a big brother and a leader to all
5:26
of us out there we was we was in a big
5:28
world like you understand rund DMC was
5:31
getting the key to cities we was on back
5:32
of fire trucks the night store they
5:35
opened up you could bring as many big
5:37
bags you could want like a kid in the
5:39
candy store so this was the person that
5:41
you looked up to when things kind of got
5:44
tough on the road they were like the big
5:46
brothers there's no questions hands down
5:48
and Jay was really hands on right Jam
5:51
Master Jay yeah he was super Hands-On he
5:53
wasn't just like the DJ he didn't just
5:55
do the production as well like he was
5:57
there to let you know like if you need
5:59
to know something you're a rookie they
6:01
call him a rookie your first time out
6:02
there you don't know what's going on so
6:04
you can lose a passport you know yo
6:07
could get took for your money you know
6:09
or all your luggage up out of your hotel
6:11
while you at a show so there was rules
6:13
to what was going on out there and every
6:15
now and then we was young we was
6:16
actually Knuckleheads okay so with that
6:18
being said we had to fly a couple of
6:20
guys home for tearing up their tour and
6:23
this is where you learn you know at the
6:26
end yo you can't just tear that Lobby up
6:28
like that so now you got pick one of
6:29
your guys and they got to go home wow
6:33
okay uh man well I got you here brother
6:34
I know what a picture being I'm just I
6:38
always shoot you know I just shoot at PE
6:40
you know with the anniversaries now all
6:42
these different anniversaries you got me
6:44
thinking uh when we when you know big
6:47
part of PM um EPMD was DJ scratch yes
6:50
you know and what is the likelihood if
6:53
you guys all coming together to do some
6:55
type of celebratory thing with DJ
6:57
scratch like why why why doesn't he be
7:00
on the rooll with you guys when y'all do
7:01
shows okay well that's again it's always
7:04
an open Forum because you always start
7:07
wanting to chance you're on the sideline
7:09
yeah then you get in the game and you
7:10
know how it goes so this with EPMD first
7:14
of all DJ scratch was brought to us by
7:16
Jam Master J wow okay and here's the
7:19
story we had problems with DJs our whole
7:21
life I don't know if we got time to go
7:24
into it but okay our DJs was always just
7:27
growing too and all our DJs is great
7:29
shout out to all of them you know uh but
7:32
in the growing process of the sacrifice
7:34
and knowing what we had to do me and
7:36
Eric was able to stay forward and and
7:38
just stay the
7:39
path sometimes you get a little
7:41
overfocused like I say and then a big
7:43
brother helps so when we had a problem
7:46
with our last DJ we bought a real a real
7:48
machine because that machine didn't even
7:51
come out yet okay so we went from Yo
7:55
1212 to yo you know what this ain't
7:58
working we just going to be like yo what
7:59
you want hear you guys to chill okay
8:01
hold on you guys to chill chill we going
8:03
to do it like that yo I'm telling you
8:05
real stuff right so we going in these
8:07
big venues with a real real no DJ and J
8:12
Master J big bro saw us
8:14
like he didn't have to take his day off
8:18
and drive pick up scratch from Brooklyn
8:22
and drive the Jersey you got to put
8:24
yourself in his shoes on your Saturday
8:26
wow damn on a Saturday yes that's where
8:30
he caught the bus cuz this is how
8:31
advanced he was okay so we Saturday we
8:34
in Jersey but they're watching us come
8:36
up the East Coast with no DJ we in
8:38
Cleveland DC everything I'm up there yo
8:41
you want here now okay hold on pushing
8:43
the button the boom and then Jay met us
8:47
caught us in Jersey before we could mess
8:49
up anymore and he says yo look man this
8:51
is my boy DJ scratch take him out there
8:53
with y'all if you like him cool if not
8:57
then boom scratch could go do what he's
8:58
going to do
9:00
but I had to bring scratch out there or
9:03
you don't have to take him and you can
9:05
still you could continue to stay out
9:06
there and play yourself that was the
9:08
pitch that was somebody who cared that
9:10
was somebody who came out the sky Sparks
9:13
all over the place and we have a whole
9:15
we don't want to go into all of that
9:17
Beast to the Rhymes and Molly gr and all
9:19
of that so he bought scratch somebody
9:21
saw us run into a problem and pre pre-
9:24
anticipated it and bought scratch right
9:26
to the tour bus but the funny part of
9:28
the story is you know us we us so
9:30
scratch comes on the bus he has the new
9:33
music seminar belt yeah Champion so we
9:36
like we got to get the real real all
9:39
right yo let's go check see what's up we
9:41
had no idea what scratch can do man when
9:43
scratch was done he'll tell you the
9:45
story so that that you know it's it's
9:47
really on us you know but when scratch
9:50
was done everybody was at his bunk on
9:53
the tour bus he tells the story like yo
9:55
so where you from man cuz we never met
9:56
him we never seen him we seen him one
9:58
time in Europe m and ironic the one time
10:00
we seen him in Europe was with Run DMC
10:03
and Rodney C Rodney C was living out
10:05
there at the time that's the only time I
10:07
seen scratch the next time I seen
10:09
scratch was Jay bordom said take him out
10:11
there we took him out there and
10:13
sometimes we would be in trouble and
10:14
scratch would bail us out so it's all
10:16
according into size venues we in
10:19
sometimes I like to take gorilla runs
10:21
you know the underground you know cuz
10:23
the underground has always been great to
10:25
me where you're not judged or nothing
10:26
like that and then you can open it up
10:28
for other artist mhm you know I did The
10:31
50-year Hip Hop I got to shout out coold
10:33
Crut Brothers I got to shout out
10:35
grandmas C come on grandm got a shout
10:37
out Rodney
10:39
cyle come on man and like look at all
10:41
the stuff that we got to do in Hip Hop
10:43
and some other artists really from eras
10:47
before us didn't get to see what we
10:49
still seeing so like again you could
10:52
call a timeout uh I speak with Caris one
10:56
he's one that specializes in 300 Cedar
10:59
and sometimes
11:00
letting the outcome and the money work
11:03
out in the promoter's behalf okay you
11:05
know what I mean so you know you going
11:07
in there set 300 but what it does is is
11:09
allows other artists who doesn't get
11:12
that many shows to have guaranteed money
11:15
to come in and do these shows cuz you
11:17
know we're getting older now yeah so you
11:19
know you don't want nobody one of the
11:20
big ones passing away when like I said
11:24
last time I was 14 years old minding my
11:26
business Rodney C who was in a room
11:29
relationship with my older sister and
11:30
now that we older you know homeboy come
11:32
through yo here you go little man I was
11:35
a little man but I didn't know those
11:37
placeat was going to be what it actually
11:39
turned out to I didn't even have the
11:41
name PMD yet or EPMD so but then now
11:44
that I'm that I could turn around like
11:46
perfect example we got a big event
11:48
coming up in juneth in Charlotte EPM D
11:50
do no just me with Rodney C from Wild
11:54
Style and people from that era so you
11:56
know they come in there and grab the mic
11:58
CU those dudes can still rap I got to be
12:00
on point now those are real MC's it's
12:03
just like sometimes the politics of the
12:05
game and the way the game moves doesn't
12:08
give them like the shot that they
12:09
actually deserved but they're still
12:10
there when is that event June 22nd and
12:13
June 23rd where is it at Charlotte
12:15
Charlotte okay I love it man PMD is here
12:19
um 888 742
12:21
3345 you were really instrumental and I
12:24
don't know if people realize this but
12:26
Craig Matt yes oh my God you were really
12:28
instrumental in his career and I think
12:29
it's about um 6 years ago now he passed
12:33
right yes yes and he's a he's a tourist
12:35
like me we coming right in right now
12:37
yeah tell tell me how folks don't know
12:39
that you know yo these are these are
12:42
some great guys that loved hip hop all
12:44
they wanted to do was be around EPMD and
12:48
try to accomplish the same thing that we
12:50
did and even if they didn't at least
12:53
they had the opportunity so Craig Mack
12:55
was the guy who um my children's Mother
12:59
seen that he needed to get on the dra
13:02
bus with us cuz if he would have not got
13:04
on there he was popping columns in the
13:06
car and doing what he had to do to move
13:08
around popping what you know hot wiring
13:10
cars and stuff moving around hot wiring
13:13
cars okay hea how you knew oh you from
13:15
Jersey I'm sorry had to knew exactly
13:16
what you was talking about okay so but
13:19
on on the surface like we knew he had
13:22
the uh he had the talent because he was
13:25
already on sleeping bag with the zoom
13:28
zoom zoom zoom zoom
13:30
yeah we used to open to that because
13:32
that beat was amazing with him and Ted
13:34
but then as time moved on things changed
13:37
but he still was an MC so it was
13:39
recommended him come on the tour bus
13:40
with us and in there that's when he
13:42
would be battling you know you got to
13:45
imagine how many places we went to how
13:47
many radio stations we come out of radio
13:49
stations we got 20 cats that want to
13:50
battle so it's like yo it was different
13:53
Tracy G yo yeah so you just had a 12
13:56
bust of battle rappers because you had
13:58
to respect guys you couldn't wave off
14:00
somebody who when you came in there cuz
14:01
I think that's disrespect I think what
14:03
what you have to explain to Tracy is
14:05
like you have to remember this is a time
14:07
and an era where you can't just email
14:10
your song to a DJ you have to wait
14:12
outside the radio station so they knew
14:15
let me listen to the radio station the
14:17
promoter made you go up to the radio
14:19
station and prove that you was even in
14:20
the city and you going to be at the show
14:22
tonight and by the time you got
14:24
downstairs the radio station it's
14:26
everybody it's like somebody want to
14:28
battle you somebody rob you somebody
14:30
want to do it was always it was it was
14:33
different was no else taken on any level
14:36
you can't take was rap you had a tour
14:39
bus but you had a church van following
14:41
the tour bus cuz you had to bring your
14:43
peoples with you in case it got crazy
14:45
everybody the church bus the church van
14:48
it was a van nobody's checking the van
14:50
nobody check for real they un checked
14:52
the van cuz it look like that
14:54
tight I chur you see that's that's a
14:57
dance right there that's you had to
14:58
bring a church everybody couldn't be on
15:00
a tour bus cuz like he said you had to
15:02
split a tour bus with a lot of people me
15:04
and bahamadia shout out
15:07
to we had to split a tour
15:10
busck we had to split a tour we went
15:12
around we had to split a tour bus labels
15:14
you it was crazy Chris krs1 had 15 of us
15:18
on the bus he was on a separate bus
15:20
Chris had his own bus yes shout out to
15:22
krs1 we was on a what yo it was
15:25
different so people would know that down
15:28
and that's where the came in what you
15:30
was rhyming in your stuff then the
15:32
people came down on the strength of that
15:34
so if you came out nose in the air you I
15:36
ain't got time for that I'm on some py
15:38
Tang then you know how that was going to
15:40
end I wrote all these Rhymes I stood I
15:42
have five hours and boom n don't go like
15:45
you got to give everybody their time in
15:47
the whole nine you know and then Falls
15:50
the battle rappers Craig Mack yo forget
15:52
about it so by the time he came off the
15:53
head Squad tour he was supposed to be
15:56
that nice you know this was a real true
15:58
MC
16:00
man all right man I love rest power to
16:01
Craig Ma you guys you got a big event
16:04
yeah rest in power to Craig Ma I wanted
16:05
to I wanted to uh represent him as well
16:08
you got a big event in London yes um on
16:11
420 that's correct April the 20th what a
16:14
day to Happ yeah isn't that something
16:16
ain't that something what is that about
16:18
well what it's about it's about the new
16:20
hip hop and new people coming in and
16:23
again the no host board like you know
16:25
you just doing what you feel and it's
16:27
it's more or less the end independent
16:29
scene of people who already got a good
16:31
movement moving which means you had to
16:33
believe in yourself and invest in
16:35
yourself so if you on it like that and
16:37
you moving like that I have no problem
16:39
coming doing a show because I've been
16:41
doing it since 87 over there that's
16:43
where sleeping bag second base was in
16:45
London UK in that area so Tone's coffee
16:49
shop is a he's one of those guys who get
16:51
busy over there and he does it for the
16:53
love you know how there some people do
16:55
all of that work for the love but it
16:56
brings some communication and um
17:00
networking so that's the whole point of
17:02
going out there to do a dope set you
17:04
know run through Classics the new song
17:06
and stuff like that and then set the
17:08
tone for coming back in October October
17:10
17th I'm in brickton Academy y withy
17:14
like I'm going in there okay and just to
17:16
get it done just to uh to work it out so
17:19
tone is 420 and then October 17th is the
17:23
brickton academy because it's the
17:26
30-year anniversary for my first solo
17:28
project Shady business business come on
17:30
man all right so some stuff I can't do
17:33
with the
17:34
EPMD I can do with the PMD or
17:37
underground and then I can open it up
17:39
like cold Crush Brothers bring cats out
17:41
and just have some fun on a whole
17:43
another level you you a fan of TI I'm
17:46
familiar TI very familiar you know his
17:49
son King yes yes yes he popularized that
17:52
term standing on business yes I heard
17:56
you got a project coming out that's
17:57
correct is it inspire by that young man
17:59
it's inspired by what it really was and
18:02
wasn't said just like join said yeah yo
18:04
Rock him listen it was no mean till it
18:07
was rockim yeah okay so with that being
18:09
said you give it up now you could have
18:12
people doing whatever type music's going
18:14
on you know we dro the crossover gold
18:16
single 106 blah blah blah and then when
18:19
you come through and then somebody hit
18:21
it and they that passionate about it you
18:23
know they're passionate about something
18:25
that they haven't seen because the
18:27
errors before them they talk
18:29
they talked a good game of business when
18:32
our era we didn't talk it we just did it
18:35
so when he said it I felt him he meant
18:39
it and then it went like a wave it was
18:41
going yeah yo man listen standing on
18:43
business but the block has changed you
18:45
know what I'm saying before was about
18:48
spitting facts and pain exchanged for a
18:50
famous name burning nitrous in the fast
18:52
lane pumping just ryen with Biz with Biz
18:55
and Big Daddy Kane who's the blame when
18:57
self-destruction is the end
18:59
game that means yo who you going to
19:02
blame you destroyed
19:03
yourself wow P I feel like you trying to
19:06
spit a verse man I don't even
19:09
want go somewhere else okay I don't know
19:14
yo don't you feel like that man the
19:16
Energy's in the room afternoon yeah the
19:20
yo yo the new website launch is Paris yo
19:23
you way the new website launch is Paris
19:26
Smith pmd.com cuz you know your people
19:28
put in work to get up there start
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rhyming yeah yeah I got that off yeah I
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body that then on the way home you be
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like you know what I didn't even speak
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on the issues that I was supposed to
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speak on Paris Smith yes the new website
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is called Paris Smith PMD see sway
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that's that tag team you go that's
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that's p a r i h s SM i t h pmd.com and
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that's for the team that's working
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hard I got to say pause yo there's no
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okay you you didn't have to say
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I know but yo on the cross check the
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cross check on the cross check I seen Jo
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come in there yo I don't know so I just
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man I rather hold that on that one just
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in Cas that's with the dead a time all
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right love you man let's give it upis
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Smith for coming up
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here
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