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38 Spesh joins "Sway In The Morning" for an exclusive interview that promises to redefine everything you thought you knew about hip-hop! With the release of his groundbreaking new album "Mother and Gun," 38 Spesh delves deep into his creative journey, sharing the inspiration and stories behind his music. From being a powerhouse producer for artists like Graph to showing the world with his viral freestyle, 38 Spesh has proven himself a force to be reckoned with.
Discover the conceptual brilliance behind "Mother and Gun" and the accompanying film featuring stars like Method Man and Havoc. This isn't just an album; it's a movement!
Don't miss this chance to witness the raw talent and authenticity of 38 Spesh. Subscribe now for more exclusive interviews and content from Sway's Universe. Tune in to the full conversation for unparalleled insights into the world of hip-hop and the stories that shape it.
CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Intro
01:38 - 38 Spesh Growth, Underestimation, New Album M+G
11:57 - Sacrifice Insights, Themes, Meaning
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0:00
[Applause]
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[ __ ] that was two years
0:03
ago that's crazy yeah that was two years
0:07
ago man wow this man came up here
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brother it was I don't know if we talked
0:14
on gunm smoke did we nah no we didn't
0:16
talk on that this was about uh seven
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shots seven
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shots let me say something
0:24
man 38 spe is in the in the room with us
0:28
today give this man a big round of app
0:31
[Applause]
0:33
we just had graph here talked about his
0:36
album and you cannot talk about his
0:39
album God's timing without talking about
0:41
30s 38 spe as a producer as a Visionary
0:46
the cohesiveness that brought that great
0:48
project together he doesn't just do it
0:50
for uh for graph he does it for others
0:53
as well as himself when he came up here
0:56
that conversation we had two years ago
0:57
we got to know each other a lot better
1:00
people got to know him a lot better at
1:01
least in our audience but that freestyle
1:04
that we just played yo that thing
1:07
probably went quadruple I don't know
1:10
what is quadruple Diamond as much as
1:13
this [ __ ] circulates and people rip it
1:14
and you see it all over the world right
1:16
now man you see that freestyle all over
1:19
the world bro right bro right yo yeah
1:23
man people come up to me all the time
1:25
man you know I be around a lot of dope
1:27
MC's but they bring that up man I'm
1:30
happy for you I'm proud of you man and
1:31
he's here to talk about his new project
1:33
mother and gun give it up for the one
1:35
and only 38 speci
1:38
38 welcome back appreciate y'all having
1:41
me man you haven't stopped working since
1:43
we saw you last man no I haven't I
1:46
haven't did did your stop did this visit
1:48
give you some fuel extra fuel for your
1:50
career at at all of course man oh yeah
1:52
man you know it was a spark after I came
1:54
up here and tore it down man you know
1:55
what I'm saying a lot of people got to
1:57
see what I could do right you know a lot
1:58
of people was sleeping me they a really
2:00
know like I was a ball God you know now
2:03
they see now they doing their research
2:04
and seeing like oh this is what he does
2:06
you know what I'm saying so I appreciate
2:09
that all love man no I talk about you a
2:11
lot like in a good way obviously um
2:14
because I have a lot of conversations
2:15
about MC's what I like specie is when
2:18
people come here or any platform whether
2:20
it's on the radar justtin credible or
2:23
whoever you want to sit down with might
2:25
be mathaa it might be Nori and these
2:27
guys or wallow whoever you might sit
2:30
down with
2:31
Gilly once you do it what do you do with
2:34
the energy some folks they want to come
2:37
up here and get that moment I want you
2:40
to come up here get that moment and
2:42
transfer it into other moments right how
2:45
has how how has that ha how does that
2:48
happen when you get the moment and
2:50
you're able to make the moment grow what
2:51
in what ways are you supposed to what
2:53
are you some of the things you're
2:54
supposed to do as an artist to make the
2:56
moment grow well man be honest with you
2:59
man it's just is about staying hungry
3:01
you know you got to act like the moment
3:02
never
3:03
existed a lot of people like to live in
3:05
a moment you know what I'm saying
3:06
drowned in the moment you know you got
3:09
to stay hungry act like it never existed
3:11
you know what I'm saying like don't feel
3:14
don't feel like you achieved anything
3:16
you know what I'm saying like the job is
3:17
done you got to keep going so that's my
3:19
main thing I just stay hungry you know
3:20
what I'm saying like no matter what I'm
3:22
just waking up to get the job done you
3:25
know what I'm saying waking up to get
3:26
the job done we played this song
3:28
underestimated
3:30
um is that indicative of how you feel
3:33
people viewed you of course man you know
3:36
I've been very underestimated man due to
3:39
a lot of different reasons you know
3:40
particularly coming from a place where
3:42
there's no opportunity Rochester New
3:44
York shout out to Rochester newer y'all
3:46
up now though yeah yeah yeah we up now
3:48
we in the building 585 we in the
3:50
building now you know they got to put
3:52
some respect on our [ __ ] you know what
3:53
I'm saying like they know that it was
3:55
Monsters up there that could get busy
3:57
like this and you know you know with
3:59
with you being from a place that they
4:00
never heard of in a place that don't got
4:03
no major football teams no major sports
4:05
teams really no opportunity and [ __ ] you
4:07
know you get underestimated you know
4:09
they they don't know that you're a giant
4:11
you know what I'm saying and I had to
4:12
show andove you know coming from a small
4:14
town but you put me NE put me next to
4:16
any spitter my presence going to be felt
4:19
come on man you know what I'm saying
4:20
love that [ __ ] man that [ __ ] who is the
4:23
young lady the song that we were playing
4:24
who's the young lady on that that's Sho
4:27
shout out to sh I love her like I really
4:30
hope that we have opportunity to get her
4:32
up here I've
4:33
been supporting her since I heard her
4:36
with like Griselda and just with
4:38
different people but I've never met her
4:40
before sis I love you like wherever you
4:43
are whoever you are please come down and
4:46
sit with us you deserve your flowers
4:48
like for real she she just it's that raw
4:52
energy the minute she opens her mouth
4:55
like and I and I can feel it and I know
4:58
I know that feeling when I hear it like
5:00
I just know it and I I I keep I keep
5:02
hearing the same name but I'm like when
5:04
she coming here she been on when we did
5:07
the pandemic she came and did the
5:08
overtime series for us when we put we
5:11
made that platform different Studio
5:13
different Studio yeah so we had her on
5:15
overtime you can actually find that
5:17
freestyle um on swayed universe or just
5:19
look up look it up look for it right
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[ __ ] incredible she amazing man I I I
5:24
love her and I just need her to know
5:26
this for real yeah she's amazing shout
5:28
out to sh man one of the best writers
5:30
that I came across you know what I'm
5:32
saying like produced too yeah she
5:33
produces too yeah she produces too man
5:35
you know that's like my little sister
5:37
man you know what I'm saying like you
5:39
know man she she's a monster you know
5:41
where she from she's from Buffalo from
5:43
Buffalo so that's the G that's where I
5:45
heard that's what I love because when
5:47
you were talking about feeling
5:49
underestimated because people Overlook
5:51
Rochester right folks make New York City
5:54
synonymous with New York State and
5:56
there's been so much pride around the
5:58
Burrows of New York particular
5:59
particularly in Hip Hop when I just got
6:01
back from a trip Upstate New York I said
6:03
yo I'm claiming the entire State I grew
6:06
up in Rockland I currently live in
6:07
Brooklyn but going up into the cat
6:10
skills and goes even further than that
6:12
like it makes me wonder in your opinion
6:14
spee do you feel like New York would
6:16
have an even stronger presence within
6:19
hip hop if the entire State really
6:21
galvanized of course you know it's a see
6:24
people don't realize you know that it's
6:26
a lot of stories that never been heard
6:28
that never been heard in these smoke
6:29
cities lot of talent that I never get no
6:31
light a day in these small cities you
6:33
know what I'm saying and um you know
6:35
it's it's a lot of pain up there it's a
6:37
lot of stories that you want to hear you
6:38
know what I'm saying a lot of people got
6:40
a lot to talk about but it's no
6:41
opportunity so you know if if if the
6:43
whole state was to embrace you know each
6:46
other like we'd be so much stronger you
6:48
know what I'm saying so much 38 specials
6:51
here 888 742 3345 why you call your
6:55
project mother and gun hey man you know
6:57
few different reason so check it now now
7:00
now now listen like you know hey I repe
7:02
my mother I really dedicated this to my
7:05
mother you know what I'm saying and um
7:07
you know it's a it's a conceptual album
7:09
very Soulful and you know instead of
7:11
mother and son with me being 38 spe it's
7:13
mother and gun mother gun oh mother gun
7:18
you know what I'm saying and I got that
7:20
as soon as I you heard that no I'm this
7:23
self-explanatory you
7:25
know you know y'all dig into that album
7:28
like I said it's a conceptual album man
7:30
you put the first song on and you be
7:31
able to play it all the way to the last
7:33
and close your eyes and be able to see a
7:35
film now speaking of that I got a whole
7:38
film that's coming along with it in this
7:41
film I got Method Man shout out to
7:44
Method Man shout out to me Havoc shout
7:47
out to Havoc you got some acting
7:49
definitely wow how you get Method Man
7:51
he's the one of the hottest actors in
7:52
Hollywood right now hey man Lyricist
7:55
respect Lyricist man Method Man's on the
7:57
album as well make sure y'all go and get
7:59
that you know what I'm saying like I got
8:00
meth in there I got um Havoc from all
8:02
deep shout out to Havoc I got Lloyd
8:05
Banks in there shout out to Lloyd Banks
8:06
I had a whole conversation about lyd
8:08
banks at this event I was at last night
8:11
yeah I even got the OG Molly m in there
8:13
man you know what I'm saying so yo y'all
8:15
make sure y'all come check y'all check
8:16
this out it's dropping September 13th
8:19
I'm having a uh premiere for it on the
8:21
4th so you definitely invited at the
8:23
Angelica theater you know y'all make
8:25
sure y'all you know tap in man you know
8:27
where will it be available and what's
8:28
the title going to be available on my
8:30
website the trust station and the name
8:32
of it is Mother and gun the movie god
8:35
mother and gun the movie yeah definitely
8:37
trailer is on my Instagram right now
8:39
y'all check it out it look like you know
8:40
straight Hollywood straight Hollywood we
8:42
this big budget [ __ ] too this ain't no
8:44
this ain't no uh you know running around
8:46
with no cam card as you see we walking
8:48
in here with the you got filmmakers not
8:50
just videographers yeah definitely self
8:53
funded oh yeah self-funded definitely
8:55
self-funded and don't think sway is a no
8:57
show we're actually broadcasting from
8:59
Califoria Cali during that week so we're
9:00
not here so he said he coming but he
9:03
never know his schedule you're in
9:04
California September the
9:07
4th all my energy was right listen no
9:10
just so he don't think you flaked right
9:12
that's good I appreciate that app
9:14
special look at me crazy I already tell
9:16
that
9:17
right looked at me earlier crazy like
9:20
all right I got
9:22
you I got to respect it I appreciate you
9:26
man it's all love man so you've always
9:28
had a bigger dream and I remember some
9:30
of the conversations early on even early
9:32
on supporting a lot of the Griselda
9:34
folks and the local artists in your area
9:38
is this a part of the bigger dream like
9:40
the film company definitely definitely I
9:42
always wanted to get into the film and
9:44
[ __ ] like a lot of people don't know
9:45
like back when I was like 19 I had
9:47
audition for the movie Freedom Writers
9:49
back in the day with SN and [ __ ] you
9:52
know what I'm saying that had like
9:53
sparked me to wanting to get in the film
9:55
and wanting to act and [ __ ] you know
9:56
what I'm saying even though I didn't get
9:58
the role you know I had to go back to
10:00
the streets but I was in on the block
10:01
with Big Dreams like man you know I want
10:03
to get in front of the camera and [ __ ]
10:05
you know what I'm saying so you know
10:06
that always been something I wanted to
10:08
do I just was waiting until I was able
10:09
to finance it myself how did you get the
10:11
audition so shout out to Green laners
10:14
this back when green laner was you know
10:16
Green Lanta this back when green Lanta
10:17
was uh signed to Russell Simmons Russell
10:19
Simmons actually hooked it up for me and
10:21
[ __ ] through green and uh I thought that
10:24
I was going to get the roll I damn near
10:25
got promised the roll but I ain't know I
10:27
had audition for the same rooll that
10:29
Mario audition Mar you know they sing
10:31
Mario singer Mario so you know he got
10:32
the role if I would have picked a
10:34
different part I would have gotten the
10:35
movie but you know my life would have ch
10:37
out turned out different I wouldn't be
10:39
this person I am right now I had to go
10:41
through everything I had to go through
10:42
the gain the knowledge that I got you
10:44
know right dominate what I'm doing right
10:46
now yeah it's learning learn from it
10:48
right definitely and then and then you
10:50
made something from it um do you
10:51
remember any of the lines you had to
10:53
audition with oh man I used to remember
10:55
the whole script by heart not no more
10:57
man I don't wrot too I don't wrote too
10:58
many raps I know little I don't wrote
11:02
too many rap I too I know you remember a
11:05
little man come on you don't remember
11:06
none of the [ __ ] but none of that [ __ ]
11:08
man I had to forget that [ __ ] soon as I
11:10
Ain get the roll I forgot about that
11:12
[ __ ] he didn't live in the moment you
11:14
didn't live in
11:16
that I had to go right back to the
11:19
block what what's been your favorite
11:21
thing that you've accomplished in the
11:23
business so far oh man it's honestly the
11:26
favorite thing that that that I take
11:28
pride in the most is the people that I
11:30
was able to give knowledge to and see
11:32
that they able to actually be
11:34
self-sufficient in this like that's
11:37
that's the most that's what I take pride
11:38
of you know what I'm saying like you
11:40
know and you know that's the best thing
11:42
for me to be able to just pass knowledge
11:44
down and see people be able to take care
11:45
of their families off of it know saying
11:48
yeah no that's that's beautiful
11:50
leadership [ __ ] man I'm speci I'm about
11:52
to be one of your
11:54
followers in your C the 38 speci Co um
11:58
you got a song called sacrifice um
12:00
definitely on this project that I I
12:02
really really uh got into can you talk
12:05
about that
12:06
song Sacrifice yeah man you know it's
12:09
all about making sacrifices man shout
12:11
out to Street Runner you know Street
12:13
running produced that you know what I'm
12:14
saying I got my homie Clem Shard on the
12:16
hook and um you know that that I said
12:19
you know man I'm really just reflecting
12:21
on life man everything is just me you
12:23
know is you know looking back at you
12:26
know the mistakes I made and learning
12:28
from it and and you know making
12:30
sacrifices played a major part of where
12:31
I'm at right now so you know that's why
12:34
I had to title that time can you give me
12:35
a and the reason I asked this because
12:37
there somebody listening to your story
12:40
right and that's going to be able to
12:41
identify with it relate to it they might
12:44
have some similarities and I always talk
12:46
about that too off mic when folks come
12:48
up to me about what is it like how did
12:49
you get here I always bring up the word
12:51
sacrifice right you know to get to your
12:53
dream there's other things you ain't
12:54
going to be able to participate in
12:57
things going to pass you up some [ __ ]
13:00
brothers you know items are friends
13:02
right can you give an example like a
13:04
specific example of sa a sacrifice you
13:06
had to make to be here well you know I
13:10
well you know what I'm saying before I
13:12
started making money off of music you
13:14
know I had my hands in a bunch of you
13:16
know Street [ __ ] when I decided about
13:19
five six years ago to take music serious
13:21
I decided to just walk away from
13:24
everything that was going on everything
13:26
that was going on and I wasn't in the
13:28
best position figh financially mhm I
13:30
just decided I'mma put all of my energy
13:33
into this music every piece of energy
13:36
that I got and I actually made that
13:37
sacrifice and was able to actually take
13:40
care of myself from it wow and ain't
13:41
look back since you know what I'm saying
13:43
so that's like way more money way more
13:45
money Ain that crazy way more money
13:47
that's the [ __ ] we be hustling backwards
13:49
know same thing we say in the graph
13:51
though but you have way more peace like
13:53
even though it feel like it's taking
13:55
long and sometimes it is ups and downs
13:57
it's just that piece of mind like I'm
14:00
I'm going after what I know that's in my
14:02
spirit and in my heart when I'm on here
14:05
on purpose to do and it's lonely
14:07
sometimes is just very lonely and
14:09
sometimes you don't even have the words
14:11
to express to the closest people around
14:13
you what you're doing or what you're
14:16
trying to do cuz they may not even
14:18
understand it and you got to hold that
14:19
in so you fighting with that I I don't
14:22
call it a demon but you fighting with
14:24
that energy sometimes too it could be a
14:26
very lonely place and only a certain
14:28
people come out on the other side of
14:30
that wow true you ever felt lonely
14:32
during this process like you was on your
14:34
own of course man you know you buildt a
14:36
lifestyle and around an environment and
14:38
that becomes all you know when you stray
14:40
away from it everybody that you grew up
14:42
with is still stuck there you definitely
14:44
be Lon you have to start making new
14:47
friends and new Associates and actually
14:49
new activities new hobbies and just a
14:51
whole new mindset I change everything
14:54
down to the diet you know what I'm
14:55
saying down to the dietet yeah down to
14:57
the diet what did you get rid of in your
15:00
oh man I got rid of all the things that
15:02
I felt was weighing me down like the red
15:03
meat you know what I'm saying I even
15:05
stopped eating chicken you know what I'm
15:06
saying and um you know I fast a lot you
15:10
know what I mean and um you know I just
15:13
I understand what I put in my body
15:15
affect the way that I think and [ __ ] A
15:16
lot of people don't know like I make my
15:18
music in a fastest State when it's
15:20
nothing in my stomach you know what I'm
15:21
saying because my other dedicate all the
15:24
energy to my brain your stomach is your
15:26
second brain soon as that start working
15:28
my other brain bra slows down so you
15:30
know I do all my thinking and most of my
15:32
decision making a Fast State you know
15:35
what I'm saying before so I try not to
15:37
eat until I eat later in the day
15:39
probably try to eat one mil a day you
15:40
know what I'm saying but you know I fall
15:42
off sometimes you know I got Temptation
15:43
I ain't perfect but I understand my body
15:46
and [ __ ] and my mind you know what I
15:48
mean so you know and that's the stuff
15:50
I'm able to pay attention to when I'm
15:52
outside of the envirment that I came up
15:53
in [ __ ] 38 speci man [ __ ] I'm trying to
15:57
get down to one no but he know the thing
15:59
is that's crazy about it he knows you
16:01
know that that works for you everybody
16:04
has to find when you tap in that's it
16:06
once you learn your body then you going
16:08
to understand your formula yo your um
16:11
your evolution is quite
16:13
admirable from man to man from person to
16:16
person brother appreciate absolutely man
16:18
I recognize it and I hear in your
16:20
language that it's it's genuine right
16:23
and so um with that man congratulations
16:27
I want to say that to you um and are we
16:29
going to make the documentary is that
16:31
why this camera here oh yeah definitely
16:33
yall making the
16:36
documentary I didn't even realize that's
16:38
the big gun wait look you have my
16:40
permission to use my likeness and image
16:42
in this documentary appreciate that okay
16:45
so go for it you know do what you got to
16:47
do U don't use no crazy pictures of me
16:50
make sure I look good uh you guys cool
16:52
with that we cool I'm a billionaire I'm
16:54
going to talk to you on the side special
16:56
see what's good you know what I'm saying
16:57
it's different over here
17:00
Jersey hey can I make a request though
17:03
that that I don't know what the dock is
17:05
going to be but that that 2022 freestyle
17:08
should be a part of it oh yeah we going
17:10
to make that part of we got to put that
17:11
in there cuz that that changed things
17:13
for me man I ain't going to lie man that
17:15
was a Monster Freestyle come on bro you
17:17
know what I mean I'm coming back up here
17:19
with some balls you hear me coming back
17:21
up here with some balls let me tell you
17:23
something you dropped bars today in your
17:25
conversation onomie that needed to be
17:28
clear like a Hy appreciate all right we
17:31
going to end the show with
17:33
sacrifice thank you for making it
17:35
brother I appreciate you man okay all
17:38
right
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