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Join the conversation on Sway In The Morning as DaBaby opens up in an exclusive interview on Sway’s Universe.
Dive deep into the mind of this Grammy-nominated artist as he discusses his refusal to sell his soul amidst industry pressures and controversies. Discover how DaBaby's journey through mental health, therapy, and personal accountability has shaped his music and life choices.
With appearances from icons like Stephanie Mills, this video is packed with authentic insights and groundbreaking revelations. Don't miss DaBaby's candid take on forming a new circle and launching a mental health initiative inspired by his late brother. Subscribe now for more exclusive interviews and compelling stories from the world of hip-hop and entertainment on Sway's Universe!
CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Intro
01:40 - DaBaby’s New Album Release
05:00 - Overcoming Adversity in Music
06:40 - DaBaby’s Controversies Explained
08:20 - Personal Growth and Transformation
10:00 - DaBaby’s Album: Dementia Insights
12:39 - Mental Health Awareness
16:48 - Survivor’s Remorse in the Spotlight
19:06 - Lyrical Breakdown of DaBaby’s Music
21:18 - Nightmares and Mental Health
22:11 - Call-ins: DaBaby with Zo and Warhead
22:30 - Warhead's Perspective from Michigan
23:51 - Zo’s Insights from Beaumont, TX
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yeah that's classic that's an internet burner right there come on man let's
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give this man a Round of Applause Just because he's here today Heather be he didn't have to be here today but he came
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today that's fact No Place I'd Rather Be No Place I'd Rather Be come on man this man been doing it for 10 years that's
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crazy when no mixtapes were coming out back in the day before he even dropped that debut album in 2019 he was already
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putting in the work come on man talk to me come on this man lives he he writes about how he lives that's a
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fact and he lives through his writing I've seen it I go through his lyrics I
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want to make sure they match the lifestyle because the authenticity is what makes him special the man stands on
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his word when you listen to his new project you'll even hear him take accountability for things that he's done
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that represents Evolution Tracy G that represents grow that's right Grammy
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nominated what we talking about man eight time my
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back eight time Grammy nominees s last time we talked to him on the
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phone during the pandemic he had to put us on hold for what Tracy because he had to I think do
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something with his court his basketball court oh man that was the day he was was
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it the swimming pool or the court I think it it was probably the court was basketball court and then he was driving
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up in the golf court get I did all that on the radio you multitasking that's
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what it come being a boss GH no that ain't ghetto that ain't ghetto man I could have did that after you could have
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but it was it was necessary for the interview I thought it was great all right man welcome the baby is back y'all
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the baby is back how the [ __ ] is this a mixtape how the [ __ ] is this a mixtape s
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tell me God damn I don't know I listened to the whole project and I was like man this is not a mixt why is he calling it
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that but it's okay we going to get into that how man how are you I'm blessed you
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know what I'm saying I'm blessed blessed people wouldn't know it they'll think because all the controversy absolutely
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that maybe this man is unbalanced right right yeah I'm more balanced than I never been right now yeah you know um
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well that's good to know because when when I look at your story people tend your headlines I read something in
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Rolling Stone right the the headlines is always about the controversy right right
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right I want to know about the glory mhm and the glory comes from when you go through the Ry when you make it to the
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other side absolutely at some point you got to buckle down and you know get your bearings right yep what did you lean
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into during all this controversy um because when I listen to your music you talk about when the when the money is
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gone people tend to be gone as well yeah for sure you know you know uh when
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people thought you were cancelled they wanted to write you off you know but you got to lean into something sometimes to
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get your bearings especially in entertain cuz it'll make you think you're crazy how did you keep your bearing I had to Lan into myself you
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know and and the key word for me you know throughout this this phase of my journey is accountability accountability
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just leaning into myself and just hold myself accountable for the part I played which is the most important part in
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anything that I didn't had to go through you know what I mean and starting there you know it it made everything clear for
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me and I was able to navigate accordingly you know what I mean not only that you know once I begin to hold
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myself accountable and you know look deep into myself s it it highlights everything around me that may not be on
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the same frequency you get what I'm saying so it eliminates distractions and things that ain't you know for what I'm
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for on what I'm on and you know here we are in a much better space how the [ __ ] is this a mixtape you know the first
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time I didn't cared about a body of work first time I put my heart in a body of work in four years what in first time
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yeah I think I just got to a space to where like you know like I was beginning to like lose my love for you know just
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creating the music and and not only just the love for it just the respect for it like when I just seen the way you know
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when you get to a certain level and and don't get me wrong blessed and and forever grateful to to reach the heights
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you know I mean that I've been able to reach and that I'll continue to strive to go further further down but at the same time it's like when I saw the
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things that come with it the politics this and that you know and and certain things like not aligning with you know
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what I feel like I stand on as an individual as a man when I look in the mirror at the end of the day you know it'll begin to it begin to make me wait
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hold hold on I don't want to cut your Stephanie Stephanie is that Stephanie Mills yes it is you see that I'm sorry
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Ian come come the baby Stephanie
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Mills it work out I knew that would work out thank you so much baby
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too go ahead you what was that M leaving oober you
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leave when you leave I'm leaving October 20th I got to go next door October 20th can't just
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come Stephanie Mills is here Hades Town Hades town on Broadway I just saw the
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Magnificent Stephanie Mills this is the you know who the baby is okay stepanie
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you look amazing today you live in Charlotte yes that must have been you that I saw the other day when I almost
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crashed my car stupid knows what to say must
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my God I'm but we're celebrating the fact that this man has put out music for
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he's reached the 10e mark so I I could take him a whole another serious now cuz he reached the 10 year mark and he's had
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a lot of adversity you know he's done abely fac a lot in court you know he's faced a lot of Life adversity had some
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losses as well yes but he got new music he's in a new wave right now and we
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celebrating that anything you could anything you can offer him well you know I'm 67 I've been in the I've I've been
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in business my entire life and the only thing I can tell him is to keep your head up yes ma'am and be careful who you
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have around absolutely you absolutely you hear me I do and listen to your
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first mind mhm because everybody around you is not your friend M do you hear me
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yes ma'am loud and clear okay M don't let people get you a mess mhm we were
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just talking about it yeah y mhm Stephanie Mills gez man you want to sing
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something on the way out than you for oh my gosh g wow love
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you talk about a super so sweet yeah those some real words she passed on too I love it and you was in and you were
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saying something really beautiful that that's probably why it brought her in here but why I saw rubbing your thigh
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like that dog no more controversy S no she wasn't rubbing my thigh but she
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said be careful sure I heard her be careful who you got hanging around you and you just said I had to get rid of
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people who weren't on people on the same frequency M ain't that something got to
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move around you got to move around how do you do that cuz some of those people are your friends it's the hardest thing in the world to do you know what I'm
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saying I was just speaking on that last night um having a conversation with somebody may ask me like what's one of the hardest decisions I probably had to
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make and it's probably you know uh severing ties That ain't you know what I mean that just don't serve you well you
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know what I mean like you know cuz if you if you a person like me you a provider you a you know like I'm the one
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that that I pride myself like in being the one that somebody can always come to I hav been that way since a kid you know
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what I mean like I was a kid taking care of adults you know what I'm saying so that's just always been me that's that's
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always been something I I stand on like as a person and just you know that's what what make me smile when I look in
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the mirror you know what I mean like that's what help me get my sleep at night knowing everybody else straight has always been bigger than me my purpose so you know that was definitely
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one of the hardest things in the world to do cuz I'm also I'm also a fighter I'm also you know it it ain't too many
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things that you can tell me that I can't do you know what I mean like it's something I put my mind to like I stop
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at nothing to get it done especially about my people and somebody that I love you know I give up on something that's
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about me before I give up on something you know what I mean about a level you know what I mean I I'll pivot and and go
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a different direction but if I'm if I got it I Got My Mind Set On making sure somebody else is straight or elevating
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somebody you know what I mean that I care about or that I see potential in like that's what I do you know what I mean I fall flat on my face you know
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what I mean to see somebody else stand up you know what I mean and hold their head up high I'm rocking you sound like
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me huh when I mean I'll go my whatever he yo let me catch him in
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that lie Li ain't a lie man come on man you and me got the same government so you know you know we we a lot alike in
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many ways I stand up the same way you say something and give me a reason man it's a lot of things you say m that um I
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want to point out um there's a line you say where you say he could have stayed on the chart for a decade but he wasn't
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selling his soul yes sir you speaking on yourself obviously absolutely yeah in
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what ways what what was a red flag that you seen that you could have took yeah that
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you equate to selling your soul I mean not to get too deep into it and
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open up a can of worms but it's just you know when you presented certain opportunities and you giving you giv
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ultimatums the where I mean I can easily you know what I mean like just forget
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like what I stand for as a person and put success Money Getting 400,000 the
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show you know what I mean and still being done at at 10 p.m. and can go get
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another 150 200 later on at night you know what I'm saying then get on the Jet and fly my ass back home and be in my
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bed in the same night or I can you know stand firm on on just what I believe in
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and and not let nobody you know what I mean assassinate my character or put me put me in a box that you know that I
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don't belong in you get what I'm saying not only that like you know all the hard work and sacrifice I put forth I ain't
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put I ain't put the hard works I ain't put the hard work in and make all the sacrifices I made and lose all the
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things I didn't lost while focusing on you know you know what I'm saying like elevating my career I ain't do all that
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to be you know used as like a puppet or or a poster child for you know what I
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mean for any any particular you know agenda or what have you and it been multiple instances like you know it's
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not just particular to like one thing but at the end of the day you know what I did was just notice a difference in me
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as a Man compared to you know a lot of my peers you know what I mean and history repeats itself at the end of the
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day so with you know looking back you know and and the people who who didn't did before me and and what other people
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have been through you know you you see certain things and you begin to notice like patterns or whatever and my thing
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is yeah like I chose to you know just stand firm in what I believe in like aun just came in and said like just go with
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your you know your first thought so not to get you know too particular or whatever you want to get detail yeah
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hell no definitely just walked all around that know what I'm saying but you know
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it's okay I hear what you're saying yeah I could have easily did one or two things M you get what I'm saying all all
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the H would have been turned into okay yeah whatever you know I mean so just with that being said like it's you know
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it's a it's a world of of a difference of you know what would have took place compared to me just doing one or two
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simple things that I just simply like why would I do that like it's more it's more so like that like why would I do
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that like why do I have to do that to you know what I mean reap the benefits of the work I done already put in and
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then I'm going continue to put in you know baby I would have just did that off the rip rather than just you know doing
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what I did so you you say another line that I think um I just went and saw Kurt
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Franklin Sunday and uh blew me away man I you know I haven't been to that type
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of I usually go to you know rap concerts festivals and I was like oh my gosh this is a whole another this is just a whole
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another realm man I you know I would love to see the baby on the Kirk Franklin stage I love to get on one word
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yeah for sure I'mma holl at him about that cuz you I would love that okay I'm see that actually been a KK Franklin F
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younger my mom used to have us jamm wow yep want [Music]
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Evolution you say a line I tried to be humble but they took that as a weakness absolutely and you say I had to
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um I had to have faith I let go to will the May gave it to
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Jesus tell me about that line let the wheel go and did like this I would going
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like 80 M hour Auntie the Lord pull right in my driveway put it in park I got out went
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in the house but no like you know they took my kindness for weakness I had to have faith I let go to will of the maybe
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and gave it to Jesus like instead of you know combating you know what people don't understand like I you know just
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took a step back and allowed you know my character to shine through at the end of the day amen I always going to do that
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in due time you pray a lot I do I try to I try to PR I try to pray way more often
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you know what I mean way more often way more often than I have I'm I'm asking you these questions because really I had
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a a transformative moment when I was literally at this concert two days ago and I was thinking about our culture
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right and we see all the Calamity in our culture right now you know some of our juggernut are you know they in jail you
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know um Young Thug Diddy all these different people and then even in your case man they boy they did a campaign on
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you yeah you know you know I I was in jail I was in I was on probation from from the game mhm you know what I mean
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yeah and and your character was under attack for a long period of time which is more valuable than allti this at the
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end of the day absolutely right but you survived it and I I just think there's a in this time I'm not sure what it is
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going on but there's a space a bridge between what people like Kirk Franklin do and what folks like you do that could
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be useful to our community I agree what do you think I agree th% yeah oh come on man baby right here man I'm having a
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good time with this one he I'm throwing stuff at him just to you know I'm trying to figure it out myself I agree
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wholeheartedly um I want to do a lyrical breakdown too but before I do September was National Suicide Prevention month M
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and you launched a mental health I think it's October is it October was it September it was September September it
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was September September yeah it just passed and then you watch and you launched your mental health initiative
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and we know your brother Glenn had taken his own life right sir talk to us about now why you wanted to launch this and
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what do you hope to accomplish with it it's been something I've been wanting to do since 2020 you know um since we lost
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my brother in 2020 it's been something I've been wanting to do definitely just wanted to do it the right way in the largest way possible just to you know
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what I mean touch as many people as I possibly can but it's it's the baby cares you know powered by Glenn Johnson
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for mental health so I created a Mental Health Organization you know what I mean in honor of my late brother and just to
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you know create resources and and create a safe space you know for specifically
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you know the black community and black men to give them a safe space and the youth black men and the youth for sure
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in particular minorities and the youth you know because I feel like mental health is something that got to be targeted and and majority of cases
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mental health it it stems from childhood trauma or experiences that you know what I mean people had at a very young age so
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I feel like you know starting at the bottom in the places that really need targeting people who need it the most
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the people who you know who have far less resources than your average you know what I'm saying individual that's
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the way to really get it done so you know I'm just utilizing my platform to do what I can and and to save you know
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other people from going through with me and my family going through and also to just set you know the best example I can
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and this is these are these resources and these tools that you know that we getting ready to set for this is stuff that my entire we need this my family
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need it my brother kids need it I need it I'm getting ready to start therapy that's something I'm really excited about oh wow I ain't never did a second
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of therapy my you never done therapy mm- after all of this needed it before all this [ __ ] you know
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what I'm saying but even after yet for sure never done maybe if you had it some of the [ __ ] absolutely you get what I'm saying I would have navigated through
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through certain situations I'm I'm pretty sure I to navigate it through I'm completely different so it's definitely something you know I'm looking forward
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to engaging in and taking as far as I could take it you come from such a place
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one of the things you talk about too is you confident because your mother put you made you confident I love that she
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can't speak on us without putting handsome before it or this or that you know I me uh-huh and and and and you're
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here now do you ever I know I experienced this growing up in Oakland I had to really come to grips with it
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because I would like you try to overdo for folks absolutely and U but it was a
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detriment to me and I I think I was dealing with uh survivors remorse absolutely I got a song called survivors
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remorse I never put out really mhm what do you say in the
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song I play it for you before I leave I say a lot okay them records I say a lot like lot like I say when I you know fell
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out of love when I began to fall out of love with it you know what I mean and it was more so the business it I fell out
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of love with the music business not creating the music I was creating non-stop the entire time so anything I
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put out from 2020 like after my brother pass anything I put out after that and
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now anything I put out in between them times like I didn't even care about that [ __ ] like I was just you know what I
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mean targeting a specific audience putting out money to generate income to keep this [ __ ] going you know but it's
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the first time I really cared about a project so I touch on a lot of things like a lot of the best music like you
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know and that's why I came with 14 songs and put out as a mixtape before I come with an album cuz it's just like the the
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fans they got so much catching up with me to do like they not even you know if you know me from then like I still go
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you know get I'm blessed enough to still be able to go do a show and get paid for songs I did five years ago you know what
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I mean and everybody know it word for word it take everybody on a roller coas of a ride you know what I mean every performance but you know like this the
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first time I been able to like really just put my heart into a project you know what I mean unapologetically boom
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and put it back out so that's why I just came with the mixtape to eliminate the business side of it like we don't even got to like nah yeah like let me get
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back acquainted with my fans it's more of a reintroduction to you know a much more mature person you know what I'm
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saying much more patient person a much more wise person a person who have been through so much more and you know what I
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mean had to navigate through it you know within themselves you know what I mean before you know people seeing me
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navigate through it or deal with it on the outside so I just love to space I'm in and and you know the Insight that I'm
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able to offer people you know through my art yeah man it's great too I think when people the first song in a minute yes
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sir is a defining song to me for the whole Pro it's definitely set the tone of the whole project it does maybe not
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the freaky songs in the middle that you you know the freaky song the freaky songs you know bring it back to the
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bring it back we going to play this one and I want y'all to listen to the lyrics and I want to come back and talk about him
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it's in a minute the baby is here 888 742 3345 it's the lyrical breakdown I
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can break you down like whatever you want un Sway in the morning I'm not going to ask about the
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whole song the whole song is incredible bro it's a it's it's one
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of my favorites yeah I'm proud of my losses I don't care if I'm winning mhm what does
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that mean proud of my losses you know I mean and the lessons that I learned within them the character that was built
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the character that was developed you know what I mean through enduring them and and you know overcoming them I'm proud of them every last one of them
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would you suggest like let's say I don't I I I try not to tell people what to do anymore but my daughter I'm you know I'm
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going say you know embrace the pain for sure I tell her that that's not a loss
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the L stands for learning absolutely would you encourage folks like people listen to you who probably deal with
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adversity how how would you teach them about that I definitely tell them to embrace it you know what I mean sooner than later yeah and I'm a person who you
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know like I I I think I was really like you know brought up that way like to
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where I don't you know I'm real good I'm better than others at you know sweeping something under the rug and and you know
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just keeping keeping it you know just keeping my tunnel vision and not letting stuff get to me but at the end of the
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day it make you like a tick and time bum at some point you got to face what you done been through you know what I mean so so I feel like it's better to to deal
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with it you know at the surface level rather than let it get you know get deeper inside of you and and you know
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just lead to you all you damn near self-destructing you know and then that way you got to rebuild yourself from the
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start you know what I'm saying which is that can also be a beautiful thing but however it Go definitely deal with it go
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through it not around it does it ever appear does the problems ever come to your dreams you have a yeah I mean sleep
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with you I used to um I used to jump out my sleep a lot more
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like in the past like and this is not even like since I've been rapping but like before like I I like blew up as rap
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yeah definitely like a lot but jump out of your sleep like literally like yeah
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hell yeah hell yeah you seem like you swing too when you I ain't swinging
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throwing punches when you come up yeah n for sure yeah mhm uh I'm going to go to
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these phone lines this song in a minute is a powerful song man and hat this is
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one of this is one of those ones you have a few of them but this is definitely one of those ones I got zo on
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the line zo zo is actually um incarcerated right now he called the show today and said that they listen to
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us all the time in the institutions zo you on the line oh zo you
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there zo zo didn't make it you know H up on ass well no you know where he at so
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you know um we got Warhead on the line from Michigan Warhead what up
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Warhead yo yo yo what's going on what's up we got the baby in here man hey uh so yeah uh baby so you know
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Chuck T DJ Chuck T Down South singing uhhuh yeah so
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I like he I did a lot of business with him on the mixtapes and uh putting my songs on his tapes but that's I think
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that's where I first got hitp to you probably man a long time ago but that's used to print my CDs out when I was out
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passing the C out I was just having a conversation with somebody the other day like I came in at the end of the CD era it ain't I got CD players and CS no more
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no that's crazy shut out to Chuck T that's who used to print out all my my CDs I'm was passing CDs out sure hey go
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ahead Warhead you got a question no no no yeah he I was just letting him know uh yeah that's he he definitely did a
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lot for a lot of artists and he's one of the reason a lot of people were up on you early so you know and just much
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respect we we uh for what you were saying earlier just standing on your principles and not selling out and uh
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you know it's just uh you you dealing with what comes with it but it's it's
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all genuine it's original and you ain't got to you ain't got to sacrifice your principles for no money and that's what
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a lot of people are doing it's really whack so you know if the real one's going to respect it man I appreciate it
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I appreciate the kind words my G Warhead you're a citizen sway morning zo you there zo yeah I'm here can you hear me
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can you hear me man we got the baby in the building right now zo tell them where you at man we at bont Texas man we holding it
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down we love you over here the baby man they want they want to say what's up man telling what's happening
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put big up to you man you heard man you doing your thing keep doing your thing out there man love I appreciate that my
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G baby man this D wood say Texas man I remember back when you was South by Southwest
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baby I appreciate man how yall doing I appreciate y'all for having me and sway
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I appreciate it baby I appreciate you keep doing your best [ __ ] man that's love y keep your head up
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wow Texas man every [ __ ] man keep doing your [ __ ] thing man
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you came to the you know what time it is I'm on it we got one more man BJ
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BJ my man BJ love man I appreciate I just want to say thank you we listen to
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you we love you the baby keep doing what you do man stay motivated man do what
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you do man we love you man we love y'all hey y'all stay up too man stay up
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all right y'all Citizens Way in the morning my man old man you see that
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[ __ ] organized in there too they boom yeah look DJ look bo
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bo organ on point when y'all get out y'all apply that same [ __ ] to the right
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things yeah was on point right you got to have that same atude when you get out
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go ahead y I'm really I'm grateful that you're here and you're being I'm grateful to be here word and we can feel
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that because you're vulnerable um but you're also honoring your own boundaries you know what I'm saying and when sway
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was mentioning how good in a minute is and I kept saying like I agree and I was thinking you're welcome the way that I
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listened to it in my mind it sounded like not only where you speaking to obviously your fans your audience it
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sound like you were speaking to yourself abely and then some parts of it also for me sounded like you were talking to a
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woman and it makes me interested in general when I hear a man in particular
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especially a black man because I love black men and when y'all are so open about your personal growth I get curious
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of how that personal growth then shapes your approach to
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relationships if you have if you look at women differently in terms of what your own desires are absolutely you know
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you've been talking throughout the project about how you kind of like a stiff woman it feels like you really
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commitment is very important to you yeah but also when it comes to accountability of your your own flaws or your own
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mistakes and how that could have shaped a woman and hurt her at worse caused trauma in general what is your growth in
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terms of relationships I think uh more than anything is it's loving myself first and and
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making sure that anybody before I even and even if I'm not even in a relationship with a person right like
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I I advocate for women to love themselves and respect themselves you know what I'm saying and before trying
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to love somebody else you know what I mean and like that's what I'm on you know just holding myself accountable th% I want anybody you know that's a
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counterpart to hold me accountable at th% as well as themselves you know what I mean and um and I feel like the rest will put itself together you know what I
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mean but it's it's definitely that type of thing just you know selflove self love more than anything you know I mean
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self love you know not only with just me if loving yourself mean [ __ ] me [ __ ] me then you know what I'm saying hey I I
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ain't even here I don't even exist you know what I mean and it's going to be the same vice versa you know what I mean like that's what I'm on all the way
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around the board so you know it's more so in that type of way but more than anything just you know making these
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beautiful women especially black women feel great that's what I'm all about for sure for sure the babies here and then
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it's another side of them too though where you go through some of these songs you I say make them feel great say hi
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right and he asked how can I make the you know feel good teach me teach me yeah that question he ask that you still
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learning right yeah I ain't acting like I you know like I got it all figured out you know teach me so a woman could tell
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you N I want you to do this and this this will be better for us and and and you'll listen I would I listen yeah for
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sure all right okay Heather what are your thoughts um I think that God gave you a blessing and a lesson that a lot
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of people your age don't catch mhm a lot of young people wait until they're older
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to respect time M and that's not the time to respect time the minute you
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learn the value of time in your time specifically everything changes around
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you the people the circle the decisions everything even your spirit changes and
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I think you got that blessing I think you learned it at the right time in your life do not wait until your older to
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respect time absolutely most valuable gift from God that he's given us and I'm
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so glad that you got that blessing I appreciate that cuz I wasted a lot of it yeah you know what I mean wasted a lot
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of it in absolutely Absolut and and you're talented and and and the fact that
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you're talented you you can write your own way in or out for sure you know in or out so
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bless you how how would you describe your flow is pretty particular like you got a signature flow to me and I and I
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listen to your p and I try to listen to how you approach certain beats and how
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and then you you could rap about anything and it could be salacious but you still rapping dope that's important
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to you the it is okay yeah for sure you know what I mean like like absolutely I don't cuz not only like I can be as
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lyrical as ever you know what I mean like I don't think it is it's any you know type of production that that I
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can't you know what I mean do my thing on but at the same time I also I feel like music you know leading towards
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movement is very important you know what I mean like so I I never want to take away the movement and and that aspect of
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music and it making you feel some type of way not only feel some type of way but when it when it makes you feel some
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type of way spiritually physically and emotionally all the boxes is cheick you know what I'm saying yeah did it ever
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hurt you receiving criticism sway saying a signature flow some folks said a
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repetitive flow now it hurt me I mean you know it have been times where I've you know I I would more so like take it
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as like you know people they got me [ __ ] up you know what I'm saying like I call it that but not hurt me cuz like
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I just you know I just take okay what's y'all favorite song right now and I just you know I just demonstrate on it you
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know and then all that [ __ ] it go out the window and it'll come back up so whoever you know and it come with the game too and I'm me at the end of the
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day so it's like you know to to have to have a defining you know sound is is
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important cuz a lot of these [ __ ] don't they they sound like this [ __ ] and this niggaer and this niggaer and they
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sound like his son and his son and his grandson like it ain't nobody you can't
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go to nobody you know what I mean you going to have to go to somebody with a clearcut a clear-cut voice like the only
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comparison I've I've ever heard you know what I mean and I don't and and this is not me you know what I mean like it's
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like I I see certain people like say like Tupac you get what I'm saying I'm guessing that that's just a voice thing
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like or whatever but like I don't you know even we completely different in terms of You Know the Way We R and all
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that [ __ ] but you know there's nobody that you can say he sound like this person like you you got your sound from
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this person he was inspired by this person I people you know make comparisons like visually and you know
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with my creativity like when it comes to my visuals and they they completely right when they say like a buster RS or
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you know what I mean a ludicrous or nothing like those is really people like I really you know I was a child coming
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up like in the music video era you know what I mean so I definitely you know picked up a lot of game from a lot of
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people when it come to that but when it come to like just my sound or whatever like you know I take it more so as a
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compliment when when you hear me you know that's me yeah you know what I mean you know that's me but I can you know I
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can switch it up and this mixtape I made sure that you know I made it a point that cuz I usually don't even do 14
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songs like that like I made it a point to show that range and then we start off with we go straight from in a minute to
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to give me a reason you get what I'm saying two different Vibes and we go right back to this one and that one and we got ain't that a [ __ ] we got you
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know did it it's it's just and then we get to the songs for the females I get more melodic I you know I do this I do
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that I'm I'm everywhere with it you know what I mean I'm everywhere there's there's a lyric where and I can't take
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it a song where you say you're the best of your era absolutely hands down hands down the
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best who you consider your ER anybody that came out from what 2013 to now I'll let you call it I ain't okay I really
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say you know I take it further than that you know what I'm saying but yeah definitely I'm you know I'm something
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I'm something special you the best in the air best [ __ ] rapper I was saying that as a local artist you can go
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back and and check best [ __ ] rapper okay you looking at me like say
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something what are he supposed to say I like that though man I got to read your eyes when you say you know we got to do
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it versus or what like what we got to do what I got to do you do that survival remorse right no for sure let's do that
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I well been so long yeah see if you can think of it I got to dig it up I
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see get that I made that song in like 20 like 2021 you know what I'm saying so even that when it's you know I made a
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music video for it and everything and just never released it never put it up what made you change your mind about
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froze to death shooting that music video too why just what reason that you didn't
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release it I told you I was like I was at a point to where like you know I just didn't I didn't respect like where the
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game was and I just I did not respect what a music business was it was a it was a period of time like shortly after
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Co like coming back from I just feel like everybody was just in just a [ __ ] up space just a dark space you know what
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I'm saying people had too much free time on their hands and I feel like I feel like cancel culture is like is like a
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baby of that you know what I'm saying like that's what that [ __ ] really like birthed like you know this this giant
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this it really gave cancel culture like power like you know so many people just being stuck on the phones all day long
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so I was just really in the space where I just like I ain't respect what was going on you know and I wouldn't have
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respected what was going on if if I wouldn't have been the one under attack by it or not you what I'm I still
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wouldn't yeah I'd have been like yeah that ain't you know you say you can't be canceled you said that absolutely not
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absolutely how can a person not how Hell how can I get on Sway in the Morning yeah if I was you know what I'm saying
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this ain't no goddamn this ain't no little boy seat to Big Boy seat a big boy seat
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right here the top of the pyramid what advice would you give someone who is currently cancelled or in the future
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become pay that [ __ ] on mind don't let it consume you you know what I'm saying like it ain't you know you're not you
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ain't cancel unless you cancel your damn self and that's why I say like I started right then and there like I don't even want to get on here and make it seem
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like I'm you know playing a blame game or making excuses like I'm holding myself a thousand th% accountable like I
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could have put out a body of work like this and and and whatever month like
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soon as the [ __ ] started or kicked off or whatever I could have I could have answer just like this you get what I'm saying but I allow things to consume me
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and and enrage me and just trigger that that angry person inside of me you get what I'm saying and you know cuz like I
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say I had been at the same time dealing with so much real life [ __ ] this entire time but still you know being the top
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streaming artist in the world and showing up for my fans with a smile on my face and you know what I'm saying just giving giving the world my all
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giving anybody I believe in my all from the this artist to that artist to this you know what I'm saying like I'm you
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know I'm I'm I was overextended and not only overextended but overwhelmed you know what I'm saying and yeah and and
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needed to needed to tend to myself so I look at all this at the end of the day on hindsight is a is a blessing you know
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what I'm saying in Disguise you know it was in disguised before it's it's out in the open now that was a blessing I
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needed that you know what I'm saying I needed that to save me you know what I mean I needed that to save me the baby
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needed to get his ass sat down to save Jonathan you know what I mean there you go I like that man that man around over