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Omar Epps Talks About His Epic Fantasy Novel NUBIA: THE RECKONING | SWAY’S UNIVERSE
Oct 2, 2023
Omar Epps, the beloved actor known for his roles in movies like “Love & Basketball” and TV shows like “House,” has recently released his second novel, “NUBIA: THE RECKONING.” The book continues the story of Zuberi, Uzochi, and Lencho, the gifted teens we first met in “NUBIA: THE AWAKENING.” In a recent interview with Sway In The Morning, Epps talked about his new book, the inspiration behind it, and how he transitioned from acting to writing.
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one of the most powerful scenes out of a
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movie of Our Generation the movie was
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Higher Learning came out in
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1995. written and directed by the
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legendary John Singleton and amongst all
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the juggernauts that was in that movie
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One standout who's been a pillar on the
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big screen for our culture for decades
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when he started off as a little youth
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this guy has been in the thread of our
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memories and he's also he's also on the
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post of our currency okay and he's
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leading us into the future the way he's
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been able to reinvent himself and just
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really demonstrate the different ways
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that he's a creative has been very
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impressive uh we've seen movies that
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he's eped and starred in we've seen
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movies that he just starred in uh we've
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seen videos that he's directed now we're
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seeing books that he's authoring I dare
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say if you got kids use him as an
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example he's a great father and a great
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husband and a great friend as well and a
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great person to know give it up for the
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one and only Omar
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[Applause]
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it's really good
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[Applause]
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man yeah always one of those dudes happy
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birthday yeah this year every day every
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day's a birthday same age as hip-hop
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right or yeah yeah ironically enough
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yeah man so you know it's it's
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interesting that you um say that because
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you know the whole 50 have been going
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around and people been asking me I'm
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like I am the essence of I was born the
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same year so yeah but obviously
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the real history this comes from my land
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yeah the the ancient grios and we stand
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on the shoulders of those giants you
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know
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um
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it's important I'm gonna say this real
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quick for for the Youth to know what
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this really come from it's bigger than
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just the elements of hip-hop break dance
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and graffiti and this that and the other
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this is about survival this is about
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passing on our history through the all
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that spoken word and you put Rhythm
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underneath that and this is how we are
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still here so it's beautiful to see it
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have morphed into a multi-billion dollar
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business yeah you know with thousands of
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of young uh uh black men and women have
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been able to provide jobs and things of
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that nature for people who might not
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have otherwise had a chance
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um so salute to all of y'all and the
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younger generation as well for keeping
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the Legacy going absolutely Omar Epsom
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is here when I think of that um it
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worked very well said when I think of
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that scene from Higher Learning man it
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automatically made me think of Colin
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Kaepernick
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um right yeah taking a knee during the
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anthem right yeah did you ever make that
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tie did you know that you know a scene
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uh of that magnitude would matter so
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much decades later
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I mean you know John Singleton man
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salute you know obviously wrestling
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power it's just such a brilliant mind
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and
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you know
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the the messaging that he was sending
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forth through his art was I mean super
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powerful and and me being so young at
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the time some of it was going over my
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head but I had that thirst to learn like
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what it you know how you connecting this
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with that and so forth and so on but
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it's amazing I mean it's kind of scary
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when you when you revisit some of them
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how prevalent those issues are
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um today that we unfortunately still
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dealing with so yeah
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um but to be a part of things that
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hopefully transcend time I think is the
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point of art right like we can either
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one of us could read a book from a
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couple hundred years ago still get a
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message from it or or you know see a
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piece of art or a piece of fashion you
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know it's interesting how fashion always
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comes back
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um so it's it I guess
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time is the most valuable thing yeah
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that we know in existence because it's
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the one thing you can't get back and it
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people always say well it's love it's
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like well yeah love is a choice I mean
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you could love somebody and not like
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them but none of us can get back to Owl
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we just spent yeah that's the beginning
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of your career did you recognize that
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you were creating art or did you see it
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as entertainment and if so when did you
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meet find that distinction
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that's a great question for me it was
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always art because of who I was inspired
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by you know the great artists that come
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before me that that Traverse all
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different forms of it right you talking
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about everybody from a Sydney Poitier or
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to like my grandmother's favorite was
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Lena Horne or you know I'm watching
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young Sammy Davis and those cats and and
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I was always moved by the Artistry
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because that's what helped me sleep at
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night that's what gave me hope at night
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when I'm watching Millie melon them back
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in the days my aunts had the record
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player and they just smoking they
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reefers
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but but like and just being moved by you
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know what I'm saying seeing seeing
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hearing that that music or seeing that
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imagery it used to it used to give me
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hope you know beyond the circumstances
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that that I was around at the time like
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you know and so it kept me through so
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when I got my opportunity I wanted to be
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able to to
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pass those things on as they were given
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to me you know and then look up uh 30
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some odd years later here we go man he
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looks exactly the same yeah right dude
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almost pissed me off when he walked in
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he was jealous you've been working out
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you asked about a protein shake a minute
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ago
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it's a hard journey for me I look at all
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these
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dude man like an action figure
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is it consistency yeah all right water
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and low sodium water and low sodium okay
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I'm up on that
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um you directed the video for
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um never going back did you direct that
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yeah I did yeah yeah Special ad video
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yeah yeah absolutely yeah I remember the
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special effects oh yeah back then we're
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huge though yeah I wasn't quite I had a
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I had a bit of a kerfuffle
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foreign
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almost like I don't know if people know
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but like George Lucas you know obviously
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from Star Wars he they the special
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effects that he had in his mind they
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didn't they didn't exist yes just kind
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of why he went and built you know Pixar
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and all that to it was in his mind so in
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my little way in this video I'm like
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yeah I see it like this that and the
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other and they were showing me the
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options and I was like that's not what I
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see in my head okay but that's what we
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got to go with yeah you know it's
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amazing because right now you just hit a
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button and there it is and there it is
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or something but it looked for us though
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especially in the beginning when it was
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a a laser beam that hit a yard and yeah
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to start appearing morphing in almost
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like two minutes yeah yeah that looked
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Advanced to us but see this is why I
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think the book is so important because
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you you if you fast forward to today you
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saying what was in your mind back then
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was not able to be put on screen the
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book is so visual though and I'm like I
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know him like how the hell were you
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thinking about this every single day and
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not being able to like put this out or
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talk about it you know the way that you
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did in this book how long were you
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sitting on this because now it's part
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two yeah
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um how long were you sitting on this
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visually to make it all come out because
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before you walked in here I was like
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this is a series this is a movie this is
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everything that you're gonna want for
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teens for families for everything like
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this is our future and to me not only
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did you have the story but when you read
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it you can see it and I told you that as
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soon as I read the first one I was like
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this is crazy bro so how long were you
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putting this together honestly in
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totality is about 15 years ago I had the
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first 15 years yeah and I was just
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sitting there and I was thinking about
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it and then thinking more about it and I
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had the um uh pleasure going to this uh
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big book conference right here in the
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Java Center okay and I saw all these
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teenagers running over to this this uh
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this writer now I was just like man kids
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still read you know and I was inspired
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and I was like well hey I always had
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this idea I've been sitting on so I
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started working on it and and um and
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here we are you know book number two uh
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Nubia hell yeah the Reckoning yeah we
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went through book one you're a great
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writer thank you
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um obviously so I I can see we were
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talking about an adaptation to these
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books absolutely that's definitely a
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plan right absolutely uh who would you
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do it with would you do it with 50
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I mean fifth is my man yeah right if you
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want to get busy let's get busy you know
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okay we're on strike sway so we can't go
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deep yes yes oh I could talk about my
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man you said your miss you said your
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Miss that's different but sway about the
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he's he's uh oh he's a he'll get you in
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trouble so yeah
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don't you know we cooking up we cooking
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up is definitely in the plans not only
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for filming television but animation
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yeah man games like the whole the whole
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bit the same way people look at at
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Marvel stuff salute to them well I've
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created my own universe exactly
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absolutely I like that
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we'll figure it out you know when when
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the date is right when we could talk
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about it
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all right we got a lot of people on the
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line today seven four two three three
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four five Ben right here who works with
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us is a huge fan of yours and uh
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absolutely he'd be remiss if uh he
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didn't get a chance look at his desk
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dude actually tell him why you keep
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you trying to get people don't do that
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Callaway
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can I not say that on the air
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the biggest the video that's gonna get
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you it's for the pride he pushed the
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book up in the hallway so people can see
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the artwork yes and challenge them to
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think yeah that's dope that's dope
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salute to you what a beautiful way who
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did the uh cover art
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um wonderful artist and um and that's
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and that that actually means a lot to me
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because we took time with that you know
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when I got a first pass of of the
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artwork
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um I was like nah every every single
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thing you see on the cover has to mean
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something nothing can be there
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gratuitously like oh let's just put a
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flower in the girl's head like nah what
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does it mean what does it symbolize
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because there's a lot of people that's
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just gonna their eyes just gonna glance
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and see the cover and what what image
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are we leaving in their head to make
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them come back and try to decipher wait
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what's that what's this almost looking
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at it like an album cover almost yeah
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but the great album covers of the past
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right you know what I'm saying that you
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still think of today right yeah okay
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that I love it man the artwork for the
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Reckoning is just as beautiful different
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colors amazing yeah this is what color
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is that oh is that what's the purpose
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yeah that used to be my favorite color
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as a kid I just wanted to hear you say
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that Prince okay you want to ask him a
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question I I don't have a question I do
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want to like give you your flowers man
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you've been an incredible part of
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telling a lot of amazing black stories
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from the time I was a kid up until now
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and you're still going so I just
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appreciate you as a part of the culture
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and all the art and work that you've
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done over the years man thank you man
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thank you thank you
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[Applause]
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like a proud father right now
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you don't want to ask them nothing else
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uh
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[Laughter]
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I also want to give you flowers because
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I was really thinking about how many
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movies that you starred in and
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characters that you played that were
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very instrumental in my upbringing
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because I'm an only child didn't have a
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relationship with my father like you
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talked about um when you came by here so
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juice like I told you before about GQ
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being influential to me and so many
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other people who are now DJs
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um uh let me see the program Higher
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Learning when I was going into college I
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was looking at those movies and like
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okay is this what it's going to be like
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that sort of thing he was like I could
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have Halle Berry as my girlfriend
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possibilities are endless
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um the wood you know what I mean like
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whenever you come to that point where
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your friends are getting married and
12:52
that sort of thing Love and Basketball
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what it's like being a relationship and
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it was just like yo Omar is in so many
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of these films that have just shaped and
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molded me as a person
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um and then to hear you talk about
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George Lucas and how to get effects the
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way you wanted them without the
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resources what did that teach you in
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terms of being an actor and a Creator
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when you don't have like either the
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budget or whatever it may be but you
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have to figure out how to get it done
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that's a great question and it salute to
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you thank you for that as well you know
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it's something really funny like as much
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technology as we have and I say this on
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sets all the time it's like the the
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biggest asset on a set is just a roll of
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black tape it fixes up is everything
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yeah
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it's a little strip of black tape
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like there's no spaceships coming in to
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do the thing they're like nah we just
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black tape so it's like and I say that
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to say I mean that's true but also we
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adapt we adapt on the Fly and in the
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process of making art it's I mean you
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know Heather it's like you know you you
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try to find your comfort zone but that
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has to be fluid because then sway walk
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in the Bob changed this guy but you
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still got to be focused on on the task
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in hand and so we just find waves we
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find ways and I think a lot of that is
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through collaboration that's why there's
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always strength in numbers because you
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know you could be sucking a box
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sometimes thinking that you know trying
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to think outside of it and here comes
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somebody when you like oh that's a great
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idea yeah and you that's why you can't
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have ego when it comes to creating art
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it's like it literally is a democracy
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itself the best idea wins you know what
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I mean so when you surround yourself
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with good people in a solid team and
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everybody's sort of uh pointing their
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energy to the to the tip of the sword as
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they say is that
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[Music]
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one of the things I like about uh this
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series
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is the idea that you written on Nubia
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the The Awakening and Nubia of the
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Reckoning now which is how today
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citizens make sure you pick that up get
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it get two copies
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if I did that and this is just me
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um might be stretching a little bit but
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when I first started reading the first
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book I haven't got to the second yet or
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I'm gonna be honest with you
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um the idea that uh we as a people
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um have special gifts
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um that we at at some point maybe
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dormant
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um that we haven't really maximized or
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tapped into and and even in the real
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world I believe that to be true us as a
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people as a community when we really tap
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into those special gifts those spiritual
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gifts that have been that have been
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handed down through generations when we
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learn real information true information
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true history uh realize that we are The
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Originals the teachers the doctors the
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agriculturists all of these different
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scientists the scientists all these
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different things
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um that we built up when I read this
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book I think of that right and and I'm
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wondering if that was part of the idea
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or two that people go through these
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characters learn that there's something
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in you that's special that if you could
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tap into
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um you could reach your fullest
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potential we know as black folks we
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haven't done that yet right but imagine
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as we Galvanize and come together what
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could happen well statue intent a little
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bit with this book a lot of Big Damn I
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need to have him with me everywhere
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[Laughter]
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[Applause]
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that was all very intentional you know
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um the the book takes place a hundred
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years from now right yeah and so imagine
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the world and Society what it would look
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like then but a lot of the themes the in
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The Human Experience for me come from
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the past you know they say the more
16:58
things change they say the same well
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let's go back a hundred years ago in 100
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years before that in 100 years before
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that you still had classism sexism
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racism all the ism still existed so
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Flash Forward into the future what I
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tried to do was leave a breadcrumb trail
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for the younger generations to see hey
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we tried it this way for a long time if
17:21
we keep you know doing the same things
17:23
expecting different results this is
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probably what the world is going to look
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like yeah but when you talk about
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tapping into those Powers so in the
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mythology that's not on the page you
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know Nubia was once this utopian island
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nation where a man was in such perfect
17:38
balance with his environment that these
17:41
other he tapped into a different part of
17:43
the metaphysical and so everyone was
17:45
bestowed with the power now the way that
17:47
that translates with you so eloquently
17:49
just said to real life is I truly
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believe I mean it's all about
17:53
perspective right I believe that there
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are those who can transform their
17:58
traumas into superpowers yes you follow
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me so I I've met so many people and once
18:04
you get to sit down with an individual
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and you get their backstory there's so
18:08
many people that will blow your mind
18:10
because of the way they present you know
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they lead with kindness they always walk
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with a smile and you might find out
18:15
they've been through hell and back and
18:18
came through and you like wow and that's
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why they say don't judge a book by its
18:22
cover you never know what somebody's
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coming from you know but how they
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present is showing you the work that
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they've done to be able to overcome
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those things and therein lies the
18:32
superpower yeah you know what I mean
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some of it may be extrovert some of it
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may be introvert it doesn't matter if
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it's all we all have those capabilities
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everybody in this room has tapped into
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something
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superhuman so to say in order to just be
18:46
present and be here and show up every
18:48
day and do what y'all do and y'all put
18:51
out it's almost like a frequency to the
18:55
universe that people are like they hear
18:57
the bat signal and they like I gotta
18:58
listen to this show every morning at
19:00
this time on my way to work or where
19:02
however they you know listen to it
19:04
because they're receiving that energy
19:06
which is almost like a a taking a
19:08
supplement I take my vitamins every day
19:10
I need my Boost okay that's gonna help
19:13
me get through this BS I'm probably have
19:14
to go through and work and so forth and
19:16
so on you know what I mean so I I really
19:18
try to capture the essence of that
19:20
feeling in the book through these
19:21
characters and through the story but
19:23
specifically I mean obviously the book
19:25
is for everybody but really honing in on
19:28
young people because their minds are
19:30
developing it's like a sponge at that
19:31
point and I want to put in positivity so
19:34
you know what I mean and plant seeds
19:36
that they'll have to go through some
19:37
life experience for it to sprout and
19:39
bear fruit for them you see what I'm
19:41
saying that's amazing man
19:44
you wanna tell me about your superhero
19:46
story all right
19:49
the other Eminem oh may not notice you
19:52
know but you'll see
19:54
I've recently become a
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what why are you looking at me like I
19:59
hate mirror man I became a new people
20:01
being mean mural man because they did a
20:03
mirror of me in Oakland okay you know oh
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yeah yeah I heard about it yeah
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[Music]
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[Music]
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thank you all so I'm gonna relate to
20:19
that man now now Heather
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now Heather actually has a new superhero
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that was created on this show too okay
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that really give goes back to the
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origins of her name have the B that
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people didn't really realize what the B
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stood for hit it oh my goodness what is
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that awful sound
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it's the sound of hate coming from the
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super villain Heather B
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Brooklyn
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[Laughter]
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man
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the storyline is foreign
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[Music]
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[Music]
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[Applause]
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this is your brother he used to you told
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us he used to come to your house and eat
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all the time
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free meals
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this is my brother they used to be
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I don't know okay all right we got
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people on the line right here see that's
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mirror man
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[Laughter]
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you need need two short on the on the
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you need something
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like some um
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make it sound gangster make it sound a
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little more Town business a little bit
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more I thought I'll just kind of go for
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the mainstream thing yeah don't be
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selling out here
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little man it's a sellout yeah we need a
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remix of that okay
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good morning everybody sway Heather B
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Tracy G Mike hey hey what's up man you
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got a question for Omar
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yeah yeah questioning some flowers
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really um like I said growing up brother
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you were a big influence to me and my my
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crew we actually called ourselves
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Wrecking Crew we watched juice like a
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hundred times a day absolute
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um yeah like you keep a lot of roles in
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life that showed us Brothers growing up
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that we could be a lot of different
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things you've been a doctor uh athlete a
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college student uh and the one the one
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the one thing you've been that we was
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always looking forward to you doing more
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of was a rapper brother I bought Sticky
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Fingers album decade because of you
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wow salute to you shout out shout out to
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Sticky yeah shout out to Sticky but that
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that verse you had on there brother I
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played it to my CD broke in half
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basically that's dope man salute to you
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man yeah
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right
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yeah yeah I know we got bars I'm saying
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what is he doing when he's still
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dibbling dabbling what are you doing
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with it we double dabble here and there
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you know I'm sitting back enjoying
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enjoying the youth you know but we did
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without it
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all right definitely hear some beats
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what the hell is that all right
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in the morning
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too early okay yeah yo that was out on
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freestyle for mural man
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[Music]
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[Laughter]
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[Music]
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my business
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so we got seti on the line steady from
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New Orleans what's up man hey Daddy
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what up how y'all doing this morning
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good yo we kicking it doing great Sandy
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this is mural man
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he hates you I see you don't like me
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whoa
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especially first time selling man that
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that movie changed my life it made me
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stay out of jail literally and I
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actually made sure I chose the right
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friends in life so I appreciate you for
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doing the movies and picking the roads
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that you picked because like the guy
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said earlier man that
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you you impacted a lot of people lives
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especially as a kid because I was like
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probably nine years old when that movie
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came I watched it when I shouldn't have
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been and I saw that one scene towards
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the end and I was like yeah
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I'm not going to jail [ __ ] that [ __ ] so
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I just wanted to say man you're a great
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actor and uh keep doing what you doing
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bro yo I appreciate that bro I
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appreciate that thank you and salute to
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you you know what I mean wow chapter
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kill super citizens this way in the
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morning all right we'll talk with Omar
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ABS uh salute to Clarence a Haynes 2
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that contributed to the book lubia The
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Reckoning the sequel to Nubia The
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Awakening Omar Epps you are truly a gift
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and the best part of it we haven't even
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tapped the surface yet yeah you still in
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the first half of the game you ain't
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even got to happen amen yes so imagine
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with all the resources and experiences
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and networking you've attained over the
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years was to come yeah and your amazing
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family yeah yeah salute to your amazing
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family yeah salute to you the book is
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Nubia the Reckoning the Reckoning is out
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today you gonna do any uh book signings
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or yeah yeah we got a couple of signings
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coming up um you know I'll be posting
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them and stuff like that but yes support
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yo at the end of the day
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um Each one teach one and we gotta
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support we got to stand behind hours and
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um you know we we put put our money in
27:38
the right place put our money in the
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right place yeah keep it in the right
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places I like how you said that yeah so
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we could cold talk too yeah
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because it's mural man
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[Applause]
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[Laughter]
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thank you
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