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Wallo is back in the building to drop some of the most profound gems you will hear this year. In this deep dive conversation with Sway and Heather B, the global entrepreneur and author breaks down the philosophy behind his latest book, Yes to You, No to Them. If you have ever struggled with setting boundaries or felt the weight of being a people pleaser, this episode is a must watch.
Wallo shares his unique perspective on why your haters are actually your best marketing team and how saying no to others is the ultimate way to say yes to yourself. The crew explores the concept of manufactured depression in the age of social media and why comparing your life to a curated highlight reel is a trap. From his three and nine productivity rule to his deep respect for hip hop legends like Big Daddy Kane and Slick Rick, Wallo provides a blueprint for success that balances street wisdom with intellectual growth.
The discussion also covers the importance of building infrastructure within the community, the evolving role of DJs, and why we must preserve the history of the culture. Whether you are an aspiring entrepreneur, a hip hop head, or someone looking for personal growth, Wallo’s insights on discipline and freedom will leave you inspired to take control of your own narrative. 🚀
Chapters
0:00 Introduction and Wallo’s Impact
3:45 Haters as an Unofficial Marketing Team
7:20 The Discipline of Saying No
11:15 Choosing Yourself Over the Culture
15:30 Lessons Learned Behind Bars
19:40 Dealing with People Pleasers
23:15 The Three and Nine Work Strategy
27:50 Wisdom for the Youth and Callers
32:10 Manufactured Depression vs Real Hardship
36:45 Celebrating Hip Hop Legends and History
41:30 The Impact of Slick Rick and Big Daddy Kane
45:10 The Future of DJs and Cultural Engineering
49:20 Free Heather B and Final Thoughts
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You see what I mean, Heather B, Tracy?
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>> You already know I love it.
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>> Come on, man. This man was speaking them
0:05
out of my subconscious mind.
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>> [laughter]
0:08
>> That's what I like about Wallo.
0:09
>> Tell us how.
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>> Wallo makes me feel like a
0:11
ventriloquist.
0:13
>> Oh.
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>> You know, you know, he he makes me feel
0:15
like a ventriloquist.
0:16
>> Okay.
0:16
>> It's as though there's a genius in front
0:18
of me. You know, a ventriloquist got a
0:19
dummy on their lap. That ain't what I
0:21
mean, right?
0:22
>> [laughter]
0:22
>> Cuz Wallo
0:24
Wallo says the words. He puts the words
0:28
thoughts and concepts and theories um
0:31
that I personally have tapped into but
0:33
wasn't quite able to formulate a
0:35
sentence on it. I can think it, but I
0:37
can't always say it.
0:38
>> Yeah.
0:38
>> You know what I mean? And Wallo has been
0:40
able to
0:42
uh in my opinion galvanize these kind of
0:44
thoughts and present them to the world.
0:47
We watched this man do it for years,
0:48
man. This guy to me is a hero in our
0:51
community. Um he's a advocate of our
0:54
community. He's always 10 toes down. He
0:57
he's shown us he's shown us he came out
0:59
of being incarcerated with I won't say
1:03
with nothing because he had a lot of
1:05
ideas.
1:06
>> Yeah.
1:06
>> And those ideas became currency. And
1:09
that currency helped him become a
1:11
motivational speaker globally,
1:13
entrepreneur globally, content creator,
1:17
social media personality, um media
1:19
platform globally, um inspiration, a
1:23
chef, uh a brother, you know, a family
1:26
member, um advocate to our community, uh
1:29
author. Now he's an author as well. Uh
1:33
we know he's been writing and he has a
1:34
new book, Yes to You, No to Them: The
1:36
Discipline of Saying No, and the freedom
1:39
um that follows, which is available June
1:41
16th, but you can pre-order now. And I
1:43
saw this brother, we were in Philly at
1:45
the Roots Picnic. And we bumped into
1:47
each other backstage. He was on his run,
1:49
he was moving. He's always by himself.
1:52
You know, and and just last week he was
1:55
like, "Man, I got to come on the show.
1:56
And just that fast, here he is. Welcome
1:59
him back to the show.
2:01
From Million Dollars Worth of Game, give
2:04
it up for my BROTHER WALLOW.
2:07
GIVE HIM A STANDING OVATION.
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>> LET'S STAND UP FOR ME.
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>> YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, MAN.
2:11
>> WALLOW, stand up for yourself.
2:12
>> Cuz if you don't stand up for yourself,
2:14
who will?
2:15
>> That should be a chapter in the book, by
2:16
the way.
2:17
>> Okay.
2:17
>> A fact. That's a bar.
2:19
>> Actually, you do say in the book, stop
2:21
looking for people to believe in what
2:23
you want for yourself. So,
2:25
>> Man, listen, people ain't going to
2:26
Listen,
2:27
this book right here was This is an
2:29
intellectual social media.
2:31
>> Okay.
2:31
>> So, each page as you can see, each page
2:33
is a post.
2:34
>> Yes.
2:34
>> And that's the caption.
2:35
>> Uh-huh.
2:36
>> So, I made it I simplified for you for
2:38
people that don't got time. You don't
2:39
got to read it all once in You might
2:40
read two pages. You might see like this
2:42
page right here, haters is your
2:43
marketing team, let them work. Haters
2:45
are your unofficial PR team.
2:47
>> Yes.
2:47
>> Let them work. You know, whatever page
2:49
you
2:49
>> So, it's okay to get hate.
2:50
>> Man, that's a beautiful thing. That's
2:51
They're marketers.
2:52
>> So, hate is a beautiful thing.
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>> Hate That's your unofficial marketing
2:56
team. All right, I don't like Sway. I'm
2:57
just I'm I go in go on every day about
2:59
not liking Sway. A lot of people going
3:01
to type type you in and they going to
3:03
learn about you. They going to be like,
3:04
oh, this is a good guy.
3:05
>> Uh-huh.
3:05
>> They introduce you to people that might
3:06
not even know about you.
3:08
That's what they do. They introduce new
3:09
people to you cuz they so fascinated
3:12
A lot of time they just want to be close
3:13
to you.
3:14
>> Mhm.
3:14
>> And they want to tap into you, your
3:15
resources. They can't
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They might They They might be
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You You might don't see them.
3:20
>> Yeah.
3:21
>> So, they might feel invisible, so they
3:22
just be loud. A lot of times hate don't
3:24
really be like real life hate. It be
3:26
like, I want to be down with you, but I
3:27
can't, so
3:28
>> I'mma say something about you. Maybe I
3:29
didn't get your attention.
3:30
>> we can have a sit down and peace it out
3:31
and I want to be around you.
3:33
>> Let me write that down. Torch, every
3:34
time he drop a gem, give me a bean, all
3:36
right? That was a gem. Hate You say hate
3:39
>> Haters is your marketing team.
3:40
>> Hate So, citizens, haters are your
3:42
marketing team.
3:43
>> Yep.
3:43
>> Right?
3:44
>> Let them work.
3:44
>> Let them work.
3:45
>> Mhm.
3:45
>> Let me ask you this, man. This whole
3:47
concept of this book landed home for me,
3:49
man. Um
3:51
the title, Yes to You,
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>> No.
3:53
>> uh sounds simple.
3:54
I mean yes to
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Yes to you, no to them.
3:58
It sounds simple.
4:00
It's such a simple title.
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But it's the hardest thing to do.
4:04
Why in your opinion is it so hard for us
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to just say no?
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>> That's why that's why in our community
4:15
because we don't want to let we we we we
4:17
want to put people before us. We don't
4:18
want to let other people down.
4:20
And we we think that's a cool thing to
4:21
do.
4:22
Um a lot of prisons is packed.
4:25
A lot of places is packed all because
4:26
people ain't say no rehabs, all type of
4:28
people didn't want to say no around
4:29
people that was introducing them to
4:31
things that might not be good and
4:32
beneficial to them. Like me and Horse
4:34
was just talking out there, right? And
4:35
he don't want to we just say he just
4:37
when he hear you all talking he was like
4:38
no was a thing. And I said no was the
4:40
reason that we were me and you right
4:41
here. Cuz Horse you could have been in
4:43
the penitentiary. You could have had a
4:44
state greens in the New York City.
4:46
You was there.
4:48
But you decided to say no and choose
4:49
yourself and not the culture that was
4:51
going on around in the street corners
4:52
every time you left your house.
4:54
So
4:56
people got to really start picking up
4:57
because we living in a world where
4:58
everybody's choosing them.
5:00
Think about that.
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And the yes this is why yes wear you
5:03
down so much cuz once you say yes,
5:05
right?
5:06
Right?
5:08
Once you say yes, you always walk away
5:10
and feel like damn. I don't really want
5:12
to go to that party. I Why did I loan
5:14
them money? I know they never going to
5:15
pay me back. They like a million dollars
5:17
in on me. They didn't never pay me back.
5:19
Like why did I I don't want to but it's
5:20
the it's the whole thing of how they
5:22
going to how we going to be looked at.
5:23
Oh, they going to look at you like oh
5:25
you corny, you Hollywood, you this, you
5:26
that.
5:28
You know and it's like
5:29
no. It's simple as that, no. I don't
5:31
care that you don't like me because I
5:33
told you no. I got a right to tell you
5:34
no.
5:36
And I got a right to say yes to me.
5:38
And telling people no is saying yes to
5:39
yourself. Why you Why is the no so more
5:41
powerful than the yes in most people's
5:43
lives?
5:43
>> Why is that?
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>> That no Listen. No listen listen. That
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no is so scary. They so scary.
5:50
But the yes is so easy. You get a yes
5:51
away you Yes is giving yourself away
5:53
every time. You devalue yourself every
5:55
time you say yes to any and everything.
5:57
Family members, associates, and then you
5:59
got people that's in our lives that they
6:01
think they entitled to a yes. That if
6:02
you say no it they it's like you slapped
6:05
them.
6:06
No is like a spitting in some people's
6:08
face. They be like, "No, how you going
6:09
to tell me no?" Cuz I can tell you no.
6:11
No, I'm not loaning you no money. No,
6:13
I'm not going out with you to to to the
6:14
to the bar to drink and all that stuff.
6:16
No.
6:17
And that's the issue with people. People
6:19
is losing out on life because we giving
6:20
so much time and energy and ourselves to
6:23
everybody else with every yes. Every
6:25
yes.
6:26
Every yes. Okay, cuz my whole thing is
6:28
you will tell somebody in the free world
6:30
yes yes yes, but you will tell your kid
6:32
no all day in the house.
6:34
Like you will tell your No, you can't do
6:35
this. No no no no. That's the only
6:37
person you feel free telling no. Think
6:39
about that.
6:41
>> The easiest people to tell no to
6:44
>> is the kid
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>> Yeah.
6:45
>> kids in the house. No, you can't go out
6:47
with your friends. No, you can't get
6:48
this. No, you can't order it off Amazon.
6:49
No no no. But when it come to being an
6:51
adult with the adults, you scared of the
6:52
adults.
6:53
You scared to death of the adults to
6:54
just simply say no. I'm not loaning you
6:56
no money. No, I'm not going to you I'm
6:57
not going to your wedding. Your wedding
6:58
is too far, man.
7:00
>> When when did you come to this
7:01
crossroads? Like that you know, we you
7:03
speak openly about time that you served
7:07
and and some of the the way you served
7:09
that time. But when you were serving
7:10
time, how many times did you have to say
7:13
no?
7:13
>> A lot. You got to say it in Listen, you
7:15
got to stay in penitentiary is a
7:16
different place. Yeah. A dude will talk
7:17
to you all day about some stuff
7:18
meaningless stuff. Get into a great
7:20
conversation about rap music about you
7:22
know,
7:23
sports just to ask you for a soup at the
7:25
end of the night.
7:26
So everybody angling in there. So your
7:28
no game going to be it's going to be
7:30
next level in there. Then when you get
7:31
out here it's even more easier. Because
7:33
if you really want to change in your
7:34
life change See that no is going to
7:36
activate a lot of change in your in your
7:37
life because now you going to remove
7:39
yourself. It help you and it remove
7:40
people away from you that really don't
7:41
deal with you.
7:42
>> Yeah. But you got popular and you got,
7:45
you know, became extremely successful. I
7:48
think you were successful the moment you
7:49
walked out.
7:51
Um and you got extremely successful.
7:52
With that, you you you create a lot of
7:55
network with a lot of different people.
7:56
People around you all the time. People
7:58
see you as opportunity now.
8:00
>> Yeah.
8:00
>> You the plate. You the plate of food.
8:02
>> Yep. That's right.
8:02
>> And then you got a lot of friends. You
8:04
talk to a lot of artists.
8:07
How many people have you had to tell no
8:09
since you became Wallow, this global
8:11
figure?
8:11
>> Oh man, a lot. And and you know what?
8:13
Growing up though, I'mma tell you
8:14
something that was
8:15
growing up,
8:17
I always liked it the uncles
8:19
that was hardcore.
8:20
>> Mhm.
8:21
>> They was fascinating to me when it come
8:22
to the when they the uncle that came to
8:24
I wanted to be that dude. The uncle that
8:26
come to the cookout and check everybody.
8:27
Betsy, what's up? Your son still in
8:28
jail? He still getting locked up?
8:29
>> Yeah.
8:30
>> Oh no, I ain't got no money to go. He
8:31
was hardcore. He didn't play. He didn't
8:32
loan nobody no money. He told people
8:34
what it was. He didn't care. I wanted I
8:36
couldn't wait to become that. That's why
8:38
when you see me with a lot of these
8:39
artists, that's why I am. I'm on I don't
8:41
I'm not hanging with you. I don't want
8:42
to hang with you.
8:43
>> Mhm.
8:43
>> I don't want to be 25 no more, man.
8:45
>> Yeah.
8:45
>> I can't wait to get to 50. I'mma be
8:46
happy.
8:46
>> Mhm.
8:47
>> Like I want to be old. I'm So, I was
8:49
always the dude that was like, "Damn, I
8:50
can't wait till one day I could be
8:51
responsible enough like that. I could be
8:53
stern like that." Cuz you know how we
8:55
always got that uncle they they life
8:57
been together. Might have went to the
8:58
military. Um my uncle was probably he
9:00
was a police officer. But it's like you
9:03
see all these people, they had their
9:04
life together and you see why they
9:06
always got their they don't they ain't
9:07
loaning nobody no money.
9:08
>> Nah.
9:08
>> You can't use their car. You can't come
9:10
over to their house.
9:11
They're not going for none of that.
9:12
>> Mhm.
9:13
>> And their life be just
9:15
they wash their car every Saturday. They
9:16
cook when they
9:17
>> Yeah.
9:18
>> It be they don't have the problems that
9:19
everybody Everybody call them.
9:21
>> Yep.
9:21
>> And they'd be like, "Nah. Nah,
9:23
what I'mma loan you money for?" They
9:25
straight to the point.
9:26
>> Yeah.
9:27
>> You got to get to that part in life. But
9:28
you got people that's in their 50s that
9:30
can't get to that part.
9:30
>> Mhm.
9:31
>> Because they people pleasers. That's the
9:33
part we need to talk about. People is
9:35
people pleasers. Their whole thing is,
9:37
"I want to be in good standards with
9:38
everybody." You can't be in good
9:39
standards with everybody.
9:41
>> Yo, why you laughing? You feel
9:43
>> That's why I don't talk to you.
9:45
>> talking to me?
9:45
>> [laughter]
9:45
>> You can't be.
9:46
>> I'm a people per- I'm a people pleaser.
9:48
>> Every time somebody call Sway, "Oh,
9:49
yeah, I can make it happen. I can do
9:50
this. I can do that. I'm going to make
9:52
the call. I'm going to make" Nobody
9:53
never call Sway and just I think me and
9:55
him they had calls where I just call
9:56
Sway and be like, "What's going on, man?
9:57
Just checking." He'd be like, "Man,
9:58
certain situations happen in life. We
10:00
call each other."
10:00
>> Yeah.
10:01
>> It could be about and it ain't got to be
10:02
nothing about coming to the show, none
10:03
of that.
10:03
>> Mhm.
10:04
>> And I just check on people. I got a lot
10:05
of people that's in this It's a lot of
10:07
people that I deal with
10:09
that's in the industry that I just call.
10:11
Mostly people behind the scenes, people
10:12
that people don't even know.
10:13
>> Yeah.
10:13
>> How you Because these people be life
10:15
changers, too. They change people lives.
10:17
They dream makers. They make people
10:19
dreams come true, but nobody never check
10:20
them to see, "Damn, how are you doing?"
10:22
And these people And the funny thing
10:24
about the dream the dream makers, a lot
10:25
of times you got two type of dream
10:26
makers.
10:27
You got people that just let people run
10:29
all over them and they utilize them to
10:30
get to where they trying to get in life.
10:31
They're dream makers. The people that
10:33
just love to get used, right? And then
10:34
you got people that
10:36
that spend their life
10:38
really trying to see the great in people
10:40
and trying to materialize the great to
10:42
translate and to communicate their
10:44
greatness to the world, right? Them the
10:46
executives I talked them the tumors and
10:47
stuff like that. You know what I mean?
10:49
Rain is over there at 300 and different
10:51
people These are different people. Zeke
10:52
over there at Epic. These are different
10:54
people that uh Big John at Sony
10:55
Publishing, whoever. A snake doing it,
10:58
you know, whatever. But what I'm saying
10:59
is, nobody never check up on them
11:00
people. So, them the people I call be
11:02
like, "Yo, you cool?
11:04
You cool? You cool?
11:05
You cool? Like you. I just It's cool.
11:07
>> Yeah, you you do that you do do that a
11:08
lot and I'm always
11:10
pleasantly surprised being in the
11:12
business for so long that's rare. You
11:14
know, you normally don't get that. I
11:16
appreciate that. I'm the I'm I'm I I
11:18
like to try to find the best in people.
11:20
I think How they said I got survivor's
11:22
remorse.
11:23
You know, where
11:24
>> of us get that.
11:24
>> of us get that, right? So, I you know, I
11:26
know I'mma be all right. I don't care
11:28
where you put me on God's green earth.
11:30
Yeah. I'mma figure it out. So, I'll try
11:32
to transfer that that energy, that
11:34
belief, that commitment, that will and
11:36
drive to those
11:38
>> Here's the problem, Wallo.
11:39
>> What What's the problem?
11:40
>> I'mma tell you right now.
11:41
>> It's about his book today, Heather.
11:43
>> It is, but I got to give him some some
11:44
backstory. Thank you, Wallo.
11:47
The problem is while he's pleasing and
11:49
he doesn't want to do it cuz he gave the
11:50
yes,
11:52
he calls me cuz he doesn't want to go by
11:53
himself. So, now I'm involved in his
11:55
yes.
11:56
>> looking for co-conspirators.
11:57
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
11:58
I can't go
11:58
>> He He He wants you to go to jail.
12:00
>> I can't go down alone. [laughter] I
12:01
can't go down alone.
12:02
>> See, then then now I'm involved. So, I
12:04
got to argue with him.
12:05
>> Where? With who? You do what? With who?
12:08
Now I got to know. Now I'm involved in
12:11
it. Wallo, how?
12:12
>> You know WHY PEOPLE, MAN?
12:14
>> [laughter]
12:14
>> PEOPLE, MAN. People and people see that
12:16
and they going to keep coming. They
12:17
going to keep taking advantage of you.
12:18
>> It's an addiction to yes.
12:20
>> Keep being a Yep. Is it Is it addiction
12:22
to it? That's why you got to start
12:23
saying no. And as soon as you say no,
12:25
your world will open up. Cuz Cuz saying
12:27
no to them is saying yes to you. You
12:28
choosing yourself. Cuz you choose
12:30
everybody else. When you just going to
12:31
start choosing yourself and saying like,
12:32
"Yo, let me choose me." Like I'm
12:34
choosing me when I say yes to me. I'm
12:36
choosing me when you say no. I can't
12:38
come to your concert. I can't do this or
12:39
I can't Now you giving yourself time for
12:41
yourself so you could be with your kids.
12:43
You could take walks in the park. You
12:44
could go to Whole Foods, get you some
12:45
food and just chill.
12:47
Like sometimes you got to cut it off and
12:48
just chill, man.
12:49
>> Yeah.
12:50
>> Like cuz people people will not let you
12:51
chill out here.
12:52
>> How do you chill, bro?
12:53
>> Oh, I go to sleep. I wake up in the
12:55
morning and if I'm tired, I go back to
12:56
sleep.
12:58
>> THAT'S [laughter] WHY YOU CHILL.
12:59
>> LIKE LIKE NO. See See, I got this thing
13:01
I got this thing people don't understand
13:03
about. It's called three and nine.
13:04
>> Uh-huh.
13:04
>> Three and nine is it only take me three
13:07
months in a year
13:08
to take care of my whole year.
13:09
Content-wise, if I mean if I got stuff
13:11
that I'm working on, whether it's a TV
13:13
show, whether it's clothing line,
13:14
whether it's sneakers, whatever I'm
13:15
doing, it takes me three months. I'm
13:17
only doing I'm not I'm not operating
13:19
outside of that 90 days.
13:20
>> Mhm.
13:21
>> I'mma do everything I need to do. This
13:22
been done.
13:23
>> Mhm.
13:23
>> This been done.
13:24
>> The book has been done, right?
13:25
>> Listen, this this been done. Stuff This
13:27
stuff done. So, my whole thing is like,
13:29
"Okay, how can I get this much stuff
13:30
done in 90 days inside of this month?"
13:33
Prime example.
13:34
Say if y'all shooting this the show,
13:36
right? Say if it was pre-recorded,
13:37
whatever, how are you doing it.
13:40
2 hours. 2 hours, right? Just think
13:42
about this.
13:43
2 hours a day
13:45
you can shoot
13:47
two shows.
13:48
In a month, you got 60 shows.
13:50
>> Mhm.
13:51
>> You do the math. Now, if you done that
13:53
Now, if you done that If you just Say if
13:54
your show was once a week.
13:55
>> Mhm.
13:56
>> That's 60 shows. That's more than enough
13:57
for a year.
13:58
>> Yeah.
13:59
>> Say you did Okay, I'm going to do that.
14:00
And say, on top of that, have it say,
14:02
"You know what? You and Herb going to
14:03
say, 'You know what? We going to do a
14:04
book together.'" In
14:07
one one day, I mean, each day you take
14:09
an hour a day and y'all just going to
14:11
conversate. Y'all going to have a
14:12
conversation about all this type of
14:13
stuff.
14:14
You got to think about it.
14:16
You know how many hours of stuff y'all
14:18
got 30 days?
14:19
>> Mhm.
14:20
>> You got 30 hours
14:21
of a audio book.
14:24
Think about that. 30 days. Just one of
14:26
Just y'all sitting here, y'all got time.
14:27
Y'all do the research before y'all start
14:29
Y'all got You know what I mean? Y'all
14:30
could just be doing collections of
14:32
audiobooks, Audible deal. Y'all could be
14:33
doing all types of other stuff.
14:35
Think about that. And And that's that's
14:37
simple. Like, a lot of my books, I I
14:39
talk them.
14:40
>> Uh-huh.
14:40
>> Like, my first book that I dropped in
14:43
2020, uh The Mind of Waldo 1, 2, and 3.
14:46
When I dropped it,
14:47
I took my homegirl, that's like a sister
14:49
to me, Amira. I said, "Listen, this is
14:50
what I need you to do." She said, "What,
14:51
Waldo?" I said, "I need you to snatch a
14:54
good 50-60 videos off my Instagram and
14:57
transcribe them."
14:58
>> Mhm.
14:59
>> That was the my first book.
15:00
>> That was your book?
15:01
>> That was the book. And then the second
15:02
one was the same thing. And then the
15:03
third one, uh
15:05
The Mind of Waldo 1, 2, and 3 was that.
15:07
Simple.
15:09
That was That's all it was. So, so just
15:11
imagine y'all sitting here having a
15:12
conversation. Y'all Y'all two could do a
15:14
conversation of hip-hop and y'all could
15:16
do each year, every hour.
15:19
>> Waldo, you put me back in the work with
15:20
him. You saying y'all two. How is that
15:22
possible?
15:23
>> [laughter]
15:24
>> Wallo, this is a great plan, bro. He's a
15:27
genius. HE'S [laughter] A GENIUS.
15:29
NO, BRO. YOU SEE MY LIFE because
15:31
>> Wallo, YOU FELL RIGHT INTO
15:34
>> [laughter]
15:35
>> NO, my fault. I'm sorry, have a good
15:38
She got to listen, listen, listen. Don't
15:40
shoot me. Put the Glock down.
15:42
>> [laughter]
15:44
>> That's hilarious.
15:45
>> I like that. We got Tammy on the line
15:47
from DC. Tammy, welcome to the show.
15:50
Hey Tammy, what's up?
15:51
>> I'm here. I'm the Wallo. Oh my god, it's
15:54
a blessing. This is Tammy from DC.
15:57
Listen, Wallo, I just want to thank God
15:59
that I was able to get on the phone and
16:01
tell you
16:02
one-on-one, thank you. I have ordered
16:05
your books, the Armed with Good
16:08
Intentions.
16:09
>> And when I have used, yes. And when they
16:12
are used for someone young, I put money
16:15
in your in your book and I give it to
16:17
them. And then I just bought these last
16:20
series where there's F You Them, F Them.
16:23
Oh my god. I've been Yes.
16:26
I love it. I've been giving those out as
16:28
gifts. I've been in the three and the
16:31
other one. And I already ordered the Yes
16:35
to Them and No to I mean Yes to Me. It
16:37
was a Yes to Me and No to Them. But I
16:40
have your books on lock. But listen,
16:42
Wallo, I'm retired military. I said,
16:44
"What am I going to do?" I said, "I want
16:45
to work for Wallo because you know why?
16:48
You giving back and what you spreading
16:50
is street wisdom. People can be smart in
16:52
the books or what have you, but what
16:54
you're spreading is wisdom on how to
16:56
survive. And that's hard to find. And
16:59
this youth and the youth needs you. They
17:02
need you. And I just feel like God got a
17:06
gift for you and you And listen, the
17:08
sky's the limit. The sky's the limit and
17:10
I just love what you're doing. That's
17:12
That's what I wanted to do. Just say
17:13
personally, thank you. Thank you. Thank
17:15
you.
17:16
>> Tammy.
17:16
>> And
17:16
>> I love what you doing, but this youth
17:18
the youth needs you. They need someone
17:22
like you, have been there, done that,
17:24
and steer them in the right direction.
17:25
That's it. I don't want to say too much,
17:28
but uh
17:29
>> Goodbye, Tammy. That's amazing.
17:30
>> Yeah.
17:31
>> Tam, Tammy, make sure you pre-order the
17:33
new book, too.
17:34
>> Pre-order new book, Tammy.
17:34
>> I already have it. I have it. It's
17:36
online. It doesn't [laughter] come out
17:37
till June 16th. I'm in the contest for
17:40
that. I already got it.
17:41
>> Yes to you, no to them.
17:44
Thank you, Tammy.
17:45
>> Yes, yes. Right. Thank you, but keep
17:47
doing what you doing, Walo, okay?
17:48
>> I got you, Tammy. I got you, sister.
17:50
>> And Tammy, man, I like Tammy, man. You a
17:51
super citizen, Tammy. Come on, Tammy.
17:53
You You already know. We got Rich from
17:55
Philly on the line. Rich, what up, man?
17:58
Wait, hold up. 888-742-3345.
18:01
We got Walo in here. If you like the
18:02
conversation, call us up. Rich, what up?
18:05
What it do?
18:06
>> What up? What up? What up? What up, uh
18:08
citizens? Just uh want to say what's up
18:11
to Walo. Let him know he's
18:13
an inspiration.
18:14
>> I'm good. I'm good. I'm I'm great, you
18:17
know.
18:18
Uh I see what he's doing. I'm a friend
18:20
and a fan, you know. We grew up
18:22
together. And I appreciate it, you know.
18:25
Nice town.
18:26
>> my brother.
18:27
>> Nice town, the town, baby. Ain't nothing
18:29
nice there.
18:29
>> You know what?
18:30
>> Nice town. That's where I I grew up. Oh,
18:31
nice town.
18:32
>> Yeah, nice town. Grew up there 17th and
18:33
Wingohocking. He knows something.
18:35
>> Oh, so you grew up with Walo, Rich?
18:37
>> He knows something. Yeah, yeah.
18:39
>> You ever ask him for money?
18:42
>> No. I know you're going to say no.
18:45
>> [laughter]
18:45
>> Oh, see that? See, see, that's a good
18:47
test. That's a That's That's That's
18:49
good.
18:49
>> That's good, right?
18:50
>> say to ask Walo for some money. He's
18:51
going to give it to you, Rich. He got
18:53
you.
18:53
>> At least a 20.
18:54
>> He got you, Rich. Ask Walo.
18:56
>> You know what I always wanted to know,
18:57
Walo? YOU TOLD ME YOU HAD A YOU WAS A
19:00
certified baker. I thought you was going
19:01
to put some cakes or something out by
19:03
now.
19:04
>> No, no, no. See, see, I want to say
19:05
something. When Sway introduced me, he
19:07
one of the only people in the history of
19:09
life that doing the introduction, he
19:10
respected my chef skills. A lot of
19:13
people think I'll be just playing cuz I
19:14
don't even know how to make prison
19:15
stuff, that's what they say. Yeah. But,
19:17
I am a I'm I got some stuff on the way,
19:19
some barbecue sauce. I didn't um I used
19:21
to make barbecue sauce when I was in
19:22
prison outside of, you know, baking
19:24
bread and cooking all types of other
19:25
foods.
19:26
>> using the same ingredients though,
19:27
right?
19:28
>> No, I'm
19:29
>> [laughter]
19:31
>> You just trying to say jail and grease.
19:32
No, no, this wasn't in the cell. This
19:34
was in the kitchen in the prison.
19:36
>> Oh, okay. I told
19:37
>> So, so, so, I definitely got some stuff
19:38
coming. Like, I definitely got some
19:40
stuff coming, Rich. Like, when you know,
19:41
you going to see it.
19:43
>> My man Rich, you got to be proud of this
19:45
brother, Rich. You doing well for
19:46
yourself, Rich?
19:47
>> of him.
19:48
>> Yes, I am. Yes, I am.
19:50
>> There you go. Good to hear, my brother.
19:52
You You a citizen.
19:54
Let me take one more. Brooklyn is in the
19:55
building. Manny, what up?
19:59
>> Hey, hey, how you doing? How you doing?
20:01
What's up, Sway? How you doing? How's it
20:02
be?
20:03
>> What up, family?
20:04
>> What's popping with you?
20:06
>> Um
20:07
just basically I want to say Walo right
20:10
now, what he's doing,
20:12
he's helping out the youth, in my
20:13
opinion. Like, you know, cuz he's giving
20:15
it to them raw. Like, these kids
20:16
nowadays,
20:18
you know, they they they quick to grab a
20:20
gun, quick to start hell, but they
20:22
forget you have hell to pay later. You
20:25
know what I mean? And
20:27
by the influence that Walo has right
20:28
now, I'm kind of digging it. You know,
20:30
he's real. Like, real quick, 3 weeks
20:33
ago, I'm hanging out with my nephew. I'm
20:35
54. My nephew's 24. Some dude was hating
20:38
on him, so he quick to grab his gun. I'm
20:41
like, "Bro, you're going to grab that
20:42
gun, you're going to use the gun, you go
20:44
you might kill a boy, and then when you
20:45
get to jail, you'll have a bigger dude
20:47
like me telling you to wash the socks,
20:49
and you become his [ __ ] bag."
20:51
Yep. There's a consequence for
20:53
everything. People need to understand
20:54
there's always a consequence for
20:56
everything.
20:57
You know, and
20:58
>> Yes, it is.
20:59
>> one thing I got to say is once life gave
21:01
me the curveball of me getting
21:02
incarcerated, once I came home, first
21:05
thing I did was
21:07
try to better my life. I ended up
21:09
grabbing my CDL. This is back in 1999
21:11
and I've been driving ever since.
21:13
>> Like that's what I'm talking about in
21:15
the world.
21:16
>> There you go. Come on, Manny.
21:17
>> brother.
21:18
>> Get ready to celebrate, Manny, man. Get
21:19
that man a round of applause.
21:20
>> Congratulations to you, Manny.
21:22
>> Come on, Manny.
21:23
>> [applause]
21:24
>> Hey, Manny, when you can when you can
21:26
pre-order this new book that Wallo has,
21:29
it's yes to you, no to them. And after
21:31
you read it, hand it to that same
21:33
nephew.
21:34
Let him read it.
21:35
>> Yeah, I will. I will. I will. I will.
21:37
>> Uh okay.
21:37
>> Appreciate you, Manny.
21:38
>> Manny, appreciate your call, Manny.
21:39
Tracy, you want to chime in? I know
21:40
you're all the way in NYC.
21:41
>> Always. Always. What up, Wallo?
21:43
Congratulations on this. Always
21:45
necessary to have your voice and your
21:47
wisdom. I want to touch on a term that
21:51
really caught my eye, manufactured
21:53
depression.
21:54
Which I believe is a is a is a phrase
21:56
that you coined.
21:59
And for the citizens, when you get this
22:00
book, you'll read that um according to
22:02
Wallo, manufactured depression is
22:04
essentially a depression that comes not
22:07
from real hardship, but from comparing
22:10
yourself to curated highlight reels on
22:13
social media and essentially desiring a
22:16
life without the work.
22:19
And I wanted to ask you, Wallo, if well,
22:22
one, how do you stay immune to that when
22:26
you're on social media so heavily? And
22:29
then two, what's the line, in your
22:32
opinion, between manufactured depression
22:35
and real depression?
22:37
>> Depression is like real life issues.
22:39
Some you know, I'm not a specialist on
22:41
it, so I can't speak on a special thing.
22:43
But like you go through real life, you
22:44
know. It was times when I was in prison
22:46
I was depressed. It was times when I
22:47
lost a family member I was depressed. It
22:49
was times where I just was lost and I
22:51
was depressed. People, anybody, right?
22:54
Manufactured depression is when you take
22:56
and use what you seeing on social media
22:57
and use it as a measuring stick versus
22:59
your life and now you're depressed.
23:01
I'm not doing enough.
23:02
Why I ain't going trips? Why I can't buy
23:04
this? Why I wasn't at this show? Why And
23:06
you looking at some reels that's
23:08
manufactured. And the reason I say that
23:09
is because
23:11
a lot of the things that you see on
23:12
social media
23:13
you got to think about it. Like you
23:14
said, I'm a person that's always on it.
23:15
I'm not.
23:17
If you see three videos from me in a
23:19
day, that's 3 minutes.
23:21
>> Mhm. Mhm.
23:23
>> Think about this. In a hour, you know
23:24
how many videos I can make?
23:26
Cuz I don't want to take Jake. I do my
23:27
stuff myself. Boom boom boom. You know
23:29
how many videos I can make in in a hour
23:31
and just drop them eight a day and just
23:32
keep going?
23:34
So you got to think about that. Like
23:36
people will look at somebody People will
23:37
look at somebody and say uh uh
23:40
Sway may drag her to somewhere, right?
23:42
He might be taking a video like He might
23:44
have her smile He might He might He
23:46
might catch her laughing somewhere. So
23:47
it'll look like she's happy with him.
23:49
Whole time she's she's not really happy
23:50
with him.
23:51
>> Tell it, Wallo.
23:52
>> She's like, why am I with him? Why did
23:53
he drag But you saw that she was happy.
23:55
So he like, yeah, he wrote right Yeah,
23:57
we was down here joining the
23:58
festivities. He wrote right all this
24:00
caption. Whole time she was pissed.
24:02
>> Pissed.
24:03
>> But he caught a moment where she was
24:04
laughing at something. So it was only a
24:06
second. So you will sit there and really
24:08
be having a good life. You got a parents
24:09
that love you. You got a child that love
24:11
you. You got a partner that love you.
24:12
You got a community that might love you.
24:13
You might go to a good church, a good
24:15
marriage, yeah. Whatever you going, you
24:16
got a real community of people that
24:17
really deal with who you are regardless
24:19
of money of anything.
24:20
And you'll measure it against somebody
24:22
that's putting a fake reel up there.
24:24
And you'll fall into this this
24:25
manufactured depression of "Oh, my life
24:27
ain't what it need to be." You have a
24:29
great life. There's somebody out there
24:31
praying for your life right now.
24:32
>> Amen.
24:32
>> Mhm.
24:33
>> Think about that.
24:34
>> Man, get [snorts] him man. Hey man, you
24:35
know, the only only thing I have to push
24:38
back on Wallo
24:38
>> No, you have to drag her somewhere.
24:40
>> Okay, yeah, well, cuz
24:41
>> You be dragging her to some places. She
24:42
don't want to be there. No, she don't.
24:44
>> Bro, she be enjoying [laughter] herself,
24:45
bro.
24:45
>> No, she's not the way she
24:46
>> She was supposed to come to the Roots
24:47
Picnic with me, too.
24:48
>> Oh, she would have enjoyed herself
24:49
there.
24:49
>> That's what I'm saying. These are the
24:50
kind of places I take her.
24:51
>> Wallo, I was at the Roots Picnic last
24:53
year. You ain't see me cuz I was away
24:55
from him. I'll be hiding from him.
24:57
I'll be hiding everywhere. You don't
24:59
never see me.
24:59
>> you get in the crowd,
25:01
do a Barry Sanders move and get away
25:02
from him.
25:03
>> he gets on stage, Heather B here, say
25:05
what's up. Nah.
25:06
>> LISTEN,
25:07
>> [laughter]
25:08
>> LOOK OUT. WHILE WE WERE HANGING last
25:09
year, we
25:11
always say listen, listen.
25:13
This this year I was like listen, I was
25:15
in super see, I wanted them people
25:16
right? I always got to spin off right?
25:19
My manager she just be grinding me up
25:20
cuz she younger than me and she'd be
25:21
like Dez be like you just you just can't
25:23
let yesterday go cuz we'd be in the car
25:25
and I'd just throw some old stuff on.
25:27
And I like like I got I got a I got a
25:28
old school 92 Lexus and I got all these
25:30
CDs in here. But she love to go through
25:32
the CDs but she'd be think trying to
25:33
front on me. So
25:35
>> [laughter]
25:35
>> I got Ultra Magnetic in here. So this
25:37
this year
25:39
listen so I go crazy right? I'm on stage
25:41
right? So I'm on stage
25:43
I see Schoolly D I fan out cuz see I'm
25:45
still
25:46
I'm still a fan. He performed. Jazzy
25:48
Jeff brought him out. I'm still a fan.
25:50
Tough Crew was there. Everybody
25:52
Yeah yeah yeah listen. I'm still a fan.
25:53
Like I don't know about people today but
25:56
like people see me and think I'm crazy
25:57
cuz when I see somebody from back in the
25:59
day it's like you're not a rapper you're
26:01
like my uncle, my cousin, my sister.
26:02
It's a different vibe. So I'm one of the
26:05
the last I ain't going to say last but
26:06
I'm one of the people from urgent that's
26:08
cool with being a fan cuz you know
26:09
people not cool with being a fan.
26:10
>> Fan I don't run up on nobody. I'm I
26:12
ain't even Big Daddy Kane.
26:13
>> I'm sorry Big Daddy Kane was mad at me
26:15
one time right? Cuz it was COVID right?
26:17
And he tried to walk through the airport
26:18
LAX early in the morning like nobody
26:20
going to notice him. So he was quiet AND
26:22
I KANE!
26:24
>> [laughter]
26:27
>> I SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT. HE WALKED
26:28
OVER TO HE WAS LIKE HE was he was a
26:29
little pissed.
26:30
He came [laughter] over there dap me and
26:31
give me a hug but he was pissed. But I'm
26:33
like Kane you you tell I'm just this is
26:35
my first time seeing you in my life. You
26:37
think I'm just going to just let you
26:38
walk by. I don't care about none of
26:39
this.
26:40
>> [laughter]
26:40
>> Like that's how I am. So I'm on a joint
26:43
I'm snapping. So I in the process I'm
26:45
snapping
26:46
uh Schoolly come out I I lose my mind.
26:48
>> There's nothing wrong with that.
26:49
>> Listen and then and then I'm watching
26:50
TI. When I right after I see you,
26:52
listen, I'm watching TI, we go to watch
26:54
TI, TI killed it, right?
26:55
>> Yo, he
26:56
>> it.
26:56
>> He had them He had them It was so many
26:58
people It was crazy.
26:58
>> I say when I came back to work?
27:00
>> Listen, TI shut it down.
27:01
>> I'm from here. I'm jamming. I'm right
27:02
here. I'm jamming.
27:04
I get bumped on the side. I said, "Hold
27:07
up. You can't play with my yo-yo. Don't
27:09
try to play me out. Don't try Is this
27:11
yo-yo right?" I lose it I couldn't
27:12
believe it. We dapping up.
27:14
>> And she put Party with you.
27:16
>> I'm like this is like So So you got to
27:18
understand this. Like for me, dudes
27:19
always You know, I'm a hip-hop
27:20
historian. I like to battle people on
27:22
rap stuff. I'm just you know, knowledge.
27:24
I'll still be looking for people. Like
27:26
I'll be looking for Kool Keith. I'll be
27:28
looking for DJ Premier. I'll be looking
27:29
for KRS-One. I'm looking I can't wait to
27:31
run into certain people. So I'll be like
27:33
I remember Rakim was I was like
27:35
This is Rakim, right?
27:37
So Gildo won't understand cuz I was the
27:38
music dude. He played sports. So he
27:39
don't He'd be like, "Yo, you just be
27:41
Yeah, I'm a groupie of that. This is
27:42
what it I wish I was around for this."
27:44
You got to stand it. So So we got to get
27:46
used to being fans and celebrating Being
27:48
a fan of somebody is celebrating
27:49
somebody. That's
27:50
>> That's right.
27:50
>> I'm a fan of you. I'm a fan of
27:51
>> I'm a fan of yours. I'm a fan of yours.
27:54
>> I'm a fan of Heather B.
27:55
>> But I don't think Heather B is a fan of
27:56
me.
27:56
>> She don't want you to be
27:57
>> She don't want you to be
27:59
>> I don't
27:59
>> She don't want you to be a fan of her.
28:00
>> I don't
28:00
>> He's not story, Wallo. Not only does he
28:03
drag me out, he moved in the same
28:05
building I moved into out here and moved
28:07
across the hall. Bro, you don't think
28:09
that's a that's a stan instead of a fan?
28:11
>> Listen, I got TO DO THIS.
28:12
>> [laughter]
28:14
>> I THINK LISTEN, I NEVER ADVISE I NEVER
28:16
ADVISE nobody to do this because I stay
28:18
out of my I stay in my business. I think
28:19
you got to go to the police and do what
28:20
you got
28:21
>> [laughter]
28:21
>> Cuz this is stalking. Now he's stalking.
28:23
This He's stalking. He's stalking.
28:25
>> me.
28:25
>> Like you you a stalker, man. I didn't
28:26
[laughter] know that, man.
28:27
>> Like why you didn't LET HER BE LIKE
28:29
>> So So now he want to knock on the door.
28:31
I need some bread.
28:32
>> That's happened.
28:33
>> Come on, let's go to the Let's go We got
28:34
to go somewhere. You ain't dressed yet.
28:36
>> All of it.
28:37
>> Why you You You dressed him up for
28:39
letting him letting you know where
28:40
>> I couldn't shake
28:42
>> You Yo, man, that's crazy, [laughter]
28:43
MAN.
28:43
>> NO, IT'S IT'S I'M I'M fan of horse.
28:46
That's what it is.
28:47
>> No, you're not. [laughter]
28:49
>> How you know?
28:50
>> I'm a fan of horse.
28:51
>> That's what I'm talking about.
28:53
>> No, that's crazy. Like like at the end
28:54
of the day
28:55
>> He ain't know that.
28:55
>> I know they like damn y'all it's like
28:56
y'all like this back in the day this
28:58
like some real weird stuff. Like y'all
29:00
just
29:00
>> [laughter]
29:00
>> like you get a whole spot together.
29:01
>> I just feel like it, man.
29:03
>> Then get a real go ahead, man.
29:05
>> Nah, man. I'm
29:06
I'm I'm happy where we are, bro.
29:08
>> You know, so
29:08
>> [laughter]
29:09
>> Nothing wrong with this, bro. It's a
29:10
good
29:11
you know, and that's you a hater. If you
29:12
if you don't
29:13
>> [laughter]
29:13
>> if you don't like the
29:15
>> SHE WAS HATING ON ME FOR TELLING ME I'D
29:16
BE IN THE car and start rapping some old
29:18
stuff. She like yo, let it go.
29:19
>> Y'all better cuz I'm I'm
29:21
What's what's the
29:22
>> No, no, no, listen, listen. Can I say
29:23
something? She was pissed about this. So
29:25
so this is what I said. You can tell me
29:27
if I'm wrong, right? So we down the
29:29
joint. I said Slick Rick going to be
29:30
there. Where? I'm like what? No, he's
29:32
not going to be there, right? So so she
29:34
told me something well, tell me about
29:35
Slick Rick. So I I I said something I
29:37
don't know if I was right, but I would
29:38
say I said see so you can understand who
29:41
Slick Rick is. See back in the day Slick
29:43
Rick got the same impact as Bad Bunny
29:45
would have today.
29:46
>> Okay.
29:47
>> So she told me like what? Like she
29:49
couldn't even imagine somebody being
29:50
that big, right? So she like so so so
29:53
she was like when they come out they see
29:55
how the people was like they was into
29:56
it, but he was like he was real stand
29:58
offish and chill.
29:59
>> Uh-huh.
29:59
>> You know what I mean? And uh
30:01
she she was like now you're telling me
30:03
that this guy she just can't believe it.
30:04
I'm like no. So 2 days ago we in Miami.
30:07
I'm playing Mona Lisa and all that in
30:08
the car. I'm like yeah, see this?
30:09
>> Uh-huh.
30:09
>> This is big as Bad Bunny stuff, right?
30:11
>> Yeah, yeah, yeah.
30:11
>> She just laugh at me now like you was a
30:13
joke. This is a joke.
30:14
>> She wasn't there.
30:15
>> She wasn't there.
30:16
>> not there.
30:17
>> Like like like you can't even use a
30:18
measure see see listen this what I tell
30:21
somebody, right? If you out there you
30:22
listening you go on Amazon and get the
30:24
book Yes I You Know I Don't right now.
30:25
Get a pre-order it be out June 16th, but
30:27
listen
30:28
this is what I try to tell people.
30:30
When Tuesday come
30:32
you had to leave your house and go buy
30:34
the tape. I had to buy your tape. I had
30:35
to get your CD. I had to go buy that. I
30:37
had to buy the vinyl. Now listen
30:39
if Tupac go diamond, right? Tupac went
30:41
diamond, right?
30:44
Just imagine
30:45
if we had to measure that up against
30:47
this right now.
30:49
How many records 2Pac would have sold if
30:50
nobody had to leave the house?
30:51
>> Yeah.
30:52
>> So, we're looking at me Listen, back
30:54
then stars was different. They were
30:55
stars and they was more bigger cuz it
30:57
was mystique. It was mystery. Now
30:59
there's no mystery. You know everything
31:00
about it. I didn't know I didn't know
31:01
where 2Pac was going to eat at.
31:03
>> At all.
31:03
>> Like we didn't know who somebody was
31:04
dating.
31:05
>> Uh-huh.
31:05
>> We didn't know what their house looked
31:06
out Let's take out on the Cribs on MTV
31:08
Cribs. But you didn't know That was
31:10
later on. Only thing I seen was the
31:11
video and the magazine. That was it.
31:14
>> We had to read a lot.
31:15
>> Had to read a lot.
31:16
>> A lot.
31:16
>> So So now it's like you don't you didn't
31:18
see these people. So when you be
31:19
measuring against yesterday versus
31:20
today, I might be off cuz Bad Bunny is a
31:23
little bit Slick Rick ain't do the Super
31:24
Bowl, but I understand.
31:25
>> But the but the opportunities wasn't
31:27
there.
31:28
>> But but but this The opportunities
31:29
wasn't there, but the impact on culture
31:32
was totally different in the way that
31:34
you can measure somebody was different.
31:36
>> Mhm.
31:36
>> And I don't think and I think now
31:38
people don't When people be They be
31:40
like, "Damn, Oak, you always listen to
31:41
the old stuff." I'll be like, "You don't
31:43
understand. This was the soundtrack to
31:44
the struggle. If you didn't have no no
31:46
sugar, no bread, no milk in the crib,
31:48
you had Public Enemy."
31:49
>> Yeah.
31:50
>> You still had the music. The music would
31:51
get you through. The music was the
31:52
soundtrack to the struggle and it was
31:54
the foundation of the opportunities that
31:56
y'all have today.
31:57
>> Yes.
31:58
>> That's what people So when I'm talking
31:59
to Max B about Kane, I'm like, "Yo, you
32:01
know you know who Kane is? Kane's a
32:02
legend. Like that's my uncle. Like you
32:03
tripping. Long live the king. Do you
32:05
understand?" So you know, whoever we
32:07
talking about, if I'm talking about
32:08
Guru, I'm talking about I'm like, "Y'all
32:10
don't
32:11
It's it's it's it's hard to try to give
32:13
somebody understanding of a time that
32:16
was just unbelievable."
32:17
>> Well, especially when they don't want to
32:18
listen.
32:19
>> That too.
32:20
>> That part. Cuz if you if you don't want
32:22
to listen, you can never gain the
32:24
understanding and you're going to walk
32:25
around ignorant.
32:26
>> Mhm.
32:26
>> Right? And what [clears throat] you do
32:27
is you fill in the blanks. That
32:29
conversation about Kane to me
32:32
I thought it was great because you were
32:33
defending Kane's legacy and it forced
32:36
people to go back and see who it was,
32:38
but if you came to who came has been
32:41
relative
32:43
to where the culture was and where the
32:45
culture has come.
32:46
Kane is is bad news.
32:48
>> Mount Rushmore. Mount Rushmore.
32:51
I had an argument. Listen, do you know
32:53
I'm standing on the stage, right? When
32:55
the old school is performing, right?
32:57
No, no, no, no. TI performing. So, I'm
32:59
standing with Shawn G. You know Shawn G
33:00
Live Nation.
33:01
I wanted to cuss Shawn G out cuz I'm
33:03
sitting there I'm like
33:04
cuz when I came inside the park I rode
33:06
my bike there. So, everybody like yo
33:08
Wallow, you see Kane? I'm like where
33:09
Kane was at? He wasn't on the flyer.
33:11
They did a surprise moment with Kane.
33:12
Didn't tell me.
33:13
>> Yeah.
33:14
>> These my favorite people. They didn't
33:15
call me in advance saying Kane going to
33:17
be here. And then Shawn going to tell
33:18
me, oh we had to bring Kane. That whole
33:20
thing that y'all started on the
33:20
internet. It was only right to bring I
33:22
said, so and you didn't call me that
33:24
Kane was here performing? Like I never
33:25
seen Kane perform. I said, what the I
33:27
said I said see I was he blew my he blew
33:29
a little of my TI a little joint. I'm
33:31
like Shawn, how you didn't tell me that
33:32
Kane y'all just did a sneak appearance
33:33
of Kane, but it's about the fact that
33:36
an argument was created about a legend.
33:39
He's getting different bookings,
33:40
different looks, different places. I
33:42
love that.
33:43
>> We I love it too because Kane's impact
33:46
it afforded people to start having
33:47
conversation about who Big Daddy Kane
33:50
is, right? And then you learn when you
33:52
go back to his discography of work,
33:54
you know, you can't just clown one
33:56
moment of his career that you may not
33:58
have been aligned with. His discography
34:00
of work is is elite. It's the impact
34:04
that he's made as a as a lyricist, as a
34:07
writer.
34:07
>> And legends look to him. Artists the
34:09
days legends look to him. Jay-Z
34:11
>> I seen the same [ __ ] happen to Kane.
34:14
Three cups in the house.
34:15
>> We got to get out of tearing ourselves
34:18
down. We tear our legends down because
34:19
they're older.
34:20
>> No, and we don't understand the legends.
34:22
The legends is the library of the
34:23
future.
34:24
They're the almanacs of what of what can
34:26
be. Like there's so many people that
34:28
dudes be When I see dudes crying, oh we
34:30
got do deal. Why you ain't going to talk
34:31
to a legend?
34:32
>> Mhm.
34:33
>> They could have done you deal for you.
34:34
>> Wow.
34:34
>> They could have helped you out. Why you
34:35
ain't like like why you ain't figure out
34:37
like how did they how did they make some
34:38
of these great albums with no budgets
34:40
back in the day?
34:40
>> Yeah.
34:40
>> Wow.
34:41
>> What's the demo?
34:42
>> It's so crazy you saying that Walo. I
34:44
had a young man, 33 years old, say to me
34:46
yesterday. He said, "Thank you for the
34:48
conversation that you and Sway gave to
34:51
me." I said, "Why you say that?" He
34:52
said, "I'm 33 years old and most of my
34:55
generation, we out here picking locks
34:57
when y'all got the keys."
34:59
>> Think about it.
35:00
>> That [ __ ] I was like, "Wow."
35:02
>> it in there.
35:03
>> Think think think think think think
35:04
about this.
35:05
>> Uh oh, shout out to DJ Canvas.
35:07
>> That's what I'm talking about. Shout out
35:08
DJ Canvas. But think about that. I'm
35:10
sitting here and I'm like, I remember
35:11
one day I sent this to Lil Yachty,
35:13
right? That's one of my nephews.
35:15
So, I sent him 50 albums, right? And I
35:17
sent him 50 blaxploitation
35:20
movies.
35:20
>> Films, yeah.
35:21
>> He was like, "What the [ __ ] is I said,
35:23
"That's everything you need." I said,
35:25
"You can just build off of that."
35:26
Reverend samples, reverend references,
35:28
reverend understandings, reverend album
35:30
covers, reverend art. I said, "Just
35:31
build off of that."
35:33
Like people don't understand like
35:35
>> And he received it.
35:36
>> Yeah, yeah, he loved it.
35:36
>> Like I know Yachty was like, "Oh, snap."
35:38
>> He couldn't believe it. He couldn't
35:39
believe it cuz cuz they didn't know it
35:41
exist. This is what they got over us and
35:43
this is what they don't understand.
35:46
We only had the beginning.
35:49
We didn't have no ref outside of if we
35:51
wasn't listening to blues or jazz or or
35:53
or or soul we that's what we had. But
35:56
y'all got now and y'all got a whole
35:58
catalog of of the beginning of hip hop
36:01
that y'all could be doing research on.
36:03
Reverend Reverend writing, Reverend
36:04
DJing and it's like, oh they I remember
36:06
I told a one dude, "Man, these DJs, man,
36:07
we don't even need I said, "Hold up.
36:09
Hold up. Hold up. Hold up." You know DJs
36:11
ran this, right? You know it was Eric B.
36:13
and Rakim. You know it was Jazzy Jeff
36:14
and the Fresh Prince. Like I said,
36:15
"What? I said, "No, the DJ was the
36:17
leader."
36:19
You know that, right? What? They
36:20
couldn't believe it.
36:22
So, that's why they look at DJs the days
36:23
like they nothing. DJs is very important
36:25
to the culture because still to this day
36:28
DJs and radio is very important.
36:30
>> Mhm.
36:31
>> And people don't understand that. You
36:33
got a radio star and you got a streaming
36:34
star. Everybody know a radio star.
36:36
Everybody don't know a streaming star.
36:37
>> Yeah.
36:39
>> Think about that.
36:39
>> Mhm.
36:40
>> The radio play restaurant, the radio
36:42
play in the gym, the radio play in a
36:45
grocery store, the radio play like like
36:47
the radio play everywhere. Like people
36:49
be sleeping on the the radio is king.
36:52
And then at the end of the day,
36:53
everybody sleep on the radio talking
36:54
about the radio but when it comes to the
36:56
every year they do the they give out the
36:58
biggest checks.
36:59
>> Yeah.
36:59
>> When it's time to do these radio to
37:00
smash and power this and that.
37:02
>> Jingle ball and all
37:05
>> But the DJ the DJ need to put they need
37:07
to put some more respect on these DJs.
37:09
These DJs need to come back out I don't
37:11
know what it it need to be a big
37:14
it need to be a big
37:16
a cross country DJ conference.
37:18
>> to have conferences like the Mixshow
37:20
Power Summit.
37:21
>> Yes.
37:22
>> all of those different things. You know,
37:24
we feature DJs every week on this show.
37:27
>> Okay.
37:27
>> We got B Junkie Fridays.
37:29
>> Shout out to the B Junkie
37:31
>> to the B Junkie
37:32
legends, Red Alert, Babu, all these
37:34
different guys. Um
37:35
Tuesdays we do we starting to do
37:37
>> Tuesdays, yes.
37:38
>> On Wednesdays we feature
37:40
women DJs.
37:41
>> Yes.
37:42
>> Uh yesterday we had DJ Canvas.
37:44
>> Canvas from Chicago.
37:45
>> Yeah, we do live mixes every single day.
37:48
>> That's what I'm talking about.
37:49
>> Uh DB does mixes every single day. So
37:52
you you you're on to something and
37:54
people overlooking it and that's
37:56
allowing people like us to stay exactly
37:58
where we are and continue to grow.
38:00
>> No, because the way I look at it, I look
38:02
at a lot and I don't and I don't when I
38:04
talk to older artists, when I run into
38:05
them and I give them ideas like I was
38:07
telling The Lox one time when I saw I
38:08
was like, "Listen
38:10
I need y'all to do and I'm and I was
38:11
giving them ideas cuz I'm trying to
38:13
convince them just to come out. I just
38:14
want y'all outside, right? And I said,
38:16
"I need y'all to do this thing where
38:18
y'all go on these tours, y'all sell the
38:19
merch and I need y'all to sit there on
38:21
the stage on the couch. I talk to the
38:24
audience and I want y'all to play songs
38:26
that never was released. And go from
38:27
city to city to do it. You could lock
38:28
the phones up like Dave Chappelle do it,
38:30
whatever. But I said,
38:32
"And tell us the story of why it didn't
38:33
get released, what y'all was doing in
38:34
the studio, and then y'all could do a
38:36
couple of the other songs." I said,
38:37
"Y'all could do that around the world.
38:39
Just just do it." So, I'm always
38:40
thinking of ways where's though
38:42
we got to we got to preserve yesterday.
38:44
>> Yeah.
38:45
>> You see what I'm saying? Like like like
38:46
it it need to be a show where um or it
38:49
need to be a documentary
38:50
>> You be talking about the logos.
38:51
>> Yeah.
38:51
>> Talking to the people that did some of
38:52
the greatest hip-hop logos of all time.
38:54
>> Mhm.
38:55
>> Talking to some of the greatest managers
38:56
of hip-hop of all time.
38:57
>> covers.
38:58
>> The greatest album Like like who done
38:59
it? Who shot it? Who did the graphics?
39:01
Who Who Who was the manager of the Like
39:04
Like cuz cuz you talk to some of these
39:05
people and you'd be like, "I've had some
39:07
crazy conversations with people."
39:08
>> Yeah.
39:09
>> You know what I mean? And it'd be like
39:11
like Lyor Cohen was telling me one time
39:12
how he uh
39:13
how he basically finessed the people to
39:15
give uh Run-DMC more money. He's like,
39:16
"Yeah, they ain't coming out." And he
39:17
just said, "What? I'm going to" cuz they
39:18
seen how many people was out there and
39:20
he couldn't believe it. And he was just
39:21
So, just talking to him about who your
39:23
favorite artist on Def Jam.
39:25
I can't tell you that, Wyclef. I'll tell
39:27
you I got to No, tell me. Talking about
39:29
Just ask Everywhere I get around people,
39:31
I'm asking them questions. I'm polling.
39:32
>> I'm polling.
39:33
>> Mhm.
39:33
>> Because I want to know because I'm like
39:35
everything that they they they got all
39:37
the equipment to build legendary
39:39
institutions today based off the
39:41
institutions of yesterday.
39:42
>> Yes.
39:43
>> Like Think about it.
39:45
>> But I think we got to start
39:47
on the infrastructure wise, people got
39:49
to start wanting to come in and want to
39:51
be behind the scenes more than front of
39:52
the scenes. We got too many people that
39:53
want to be in front of the scenes. When
39:55
I say behind the scenes, I'm talking
39:56
about we need great managers. We need
39:58
great booking agents. We need great DJs.
40:00
We need great event planners. We need
40:02
great travel agents, great attorneys.
40:04
Like cuz there's no collectives no more.
40:06
That's when I see all these artists
40:07
they'd be like, "I'm trying to do this."
40:08
I'm like, "You got to be a part of a
40:09
collective."
40:09
>> Yeah.
40:10
>> There's If you look at Dungeon Family,
40:12
Wu-Tang, they was collective. Uh Souls
40:14
of Mischief, I mean uh uh
40:15
Hieroglyphics, De La Soul, A Tribe
40:17
Called Quest, like like
40:19
So, when you see these when you see
40:20
these people today everybody is on a me
40:23
me me thing. Right here is a collective.
40:25
Y'all come from different different
40:26
stuff.
40:27
>> And that's why I take her everywhere bro
40:29
cuz we're collective.
40:32
You kidnap her.
40:32
>> That's not true.
40:34
>> She don't want to go with you.
40:34
>> That's not true.
40:35
>> Come on we got to you you would tell us
40:36
something. Listen, you would you would
40:37
try to convince her that somebody going
40:39
to be there something going to be there
40:40
that she would like this certain food or
40:42
it might be anything. It's going Oh
40:43
yeah, she get there and it ain't even
40:44
there.
40:45
>> No that's not true.
40:45
>> You can invite him somewhere right now.
40:47
Yo Sway I need you to come host this
40:48
thing for me. I'm doing something with
40:49
the kids. Yo that's great. Me and
40:51
Heather be there. Nah,
40:53
how you know that?
40:54
>> She probably she probably had to do
40:55
something.
40:55
>> Absolutely.
40:56
>> Let me say this. Part of to what you're
40:58
saying
40:58
>> [laughter]
40:59
>> King Tech and I created a network called
41:02
SKT Network. We built the app.
41:05
We got fast channels the whole nine.
41:06
It's been up for about a month and a
41:08
half almost two months. You can download
41:10
it on your phone.
41:10
>> How many times you talked about it
41:11
though?
41:12
>> Yeah, everyday.
41:13
>> You better talk about it everyday.
41:14
>> Yeah.
41:14
>> You see me on social media?
41:17
Black people
41:19
stop being afraid to promote your
41:20
business. If you sell burgers tell
41:21
people about them. If you sell clothes
41:23
tell people about them everyday. Like
41:25
you got to do this [ __ ] everyday.
41:27
Like that got to be like popping up on
41:29
the on the on the when they grab it they
41:31
got to pop up download now.
41:33
>> Yeah.
41:33
>> I mean start telling all the DJs to put
41:35
it in these something.
41:36
>> But the so SKT Network
41:38
>> SKT Network
41:39
>> SKT Network and the ideal is to to your
41:41
point we are we're great at we're great
41:44
content creators you know. We're great
41:46
at creating culture
41:49
but I think our next level of evolution
41:51
is being instead of just making cultural
41:53
impact becoming cultural engineers. It's
41:56
what you're saying.
41:57
>> Executive stars. We need executive
41:58
stars.
41:59
>> and build the infrastructure that that's
42:02
now collecting the data. We're the data
42:04
collectors right? Cuz we create the
42:06
content that get us to the data. So
42:08
becoming cultural engineers is one of
42:10
the reasons why we pursue creating this
42:13
infrastructure SKT Network.
42:15
>> do SKT Network do?
42:16
>> Sway King Tech Network. It What we do is
42:20
couple of things.
42:22
Number one, it allows us to tell our own
42:24
story, right? We have a lot of content
42:26
that we shot
42:27
>> Yeah.
42:28
>> from the Wake Up Show in the 90s,
42:29
whether it's the Biggie's last freestyle
42:32
we had video
42:33
tape we had video
42:35
of all that content and
42:37
it and then we also tie in who they were
42:40
then to who they are now because same
42:42
people I was interviewing in the 90s
42:44
I've been interviewing in the 2000s, you
42:46
know, whether it was through MTV or
42:48
through this show here on on Shade 45.
42:51
We also open up our
42:53
our corridors to international artists
42:56
who have international movements
42:58
that you could discover artists from
43:01
from the UK, from all parts of Africa,
43:04
France,
43:06
the Middle East, all of these different
43:08
regions to make people aware of what
43:10
folks are doing there. We allow people
43:12
to play music videos. Now, I know we
43:15
we're in a world where
43:17
all the imaging is short clips, but some
43:20
people like to make real music videos.
43:22
And so now you could premiere your music
43:24
video on this network. There's a lot of
43:27
content docu-series out there that that
43:30
is substantive that is telling great
43:32
stories that nobody has seen or heard
43:34
that we we've been able to license some
43:37
of those things as well. We're doing We
43:39
also have a
43:40
a concert we do for the culture. Next
43:42
one is coming out August 22nd. Well,
43:45
we're honoring the first two we honored
43:47
Juice
43:48
from Chicago who's known for battle rap,
43:51
battled Eminem and everybody and Kurupt.
43:54
Second one we honored Prince Ken Swift
43:56
from the original Rock Steady Crew.
43:58
We honored Ras Kass, King Crooked We we
44:03
we had
44:05
King Tee bring out to the war for King
44:07
Crooked. We had Rizza bring out the war
44:09
for Large Professor. We had B-Real bring
44:12
out the war for Supernatural. And so we
44:15
So we do these It's It's our version of
44:19
um
44:19
the Hall of Fame meets The Source
44:21
Awards, if you will. So it's a lot of
44:23
things we're building around it, but the
44:25
purpose was to create the infrastructure
44:28
so we don't have to rely on others. You
44:30
know, and so to your point, it's a lot
44:33
out here. It's a lot of opportunity.
44:35
Yes, it is. It's a lot of opportunity.
44:37
Yeah, and to your point, if Heather
44:39
wasn't part of my collective, I'm not
44:41
sure if this would be Thank you. See
44:43
what I'm saying? Okay, I got it.
44:44
Thank you, brother.
44:45
>> so I understand. We come to
44:47
>> Yeah.
44:47
>> eye to eye on
44:48
that.
44:48
>> That part. That No,
44:50
not not everything. No, I [laughter]
44:51
just said we think alike. No, okay,
44:53
okay. I'm I'm with you.
44:54
>> I'm not putting all of that
44:56
>> [laughter]
44:56
>> dragging it to Vince and stuff. No, I
44:58
feel like we were
44:59
>> in sync, Wallow. I thought we were in
45:01
sync, brother.
45:01
>> dragging it to Vince and stuff.
45:02
>> You know, we we got we got the same
45:03
issues here, man. That's all. My
45:05
brother, I'm super proud of you, man.
45:08
Thank you, and I'm glad we made this
45:09
happen, and a lot of people People tuned
45:12
in. We get We get listeners of all walks
45:14
of life, all demographics. This is the
45:17
one that you could read with your kids.
45:18
A lot of folks are trying to find a
45:20
connection with your child. Make sure
45:22
they know how to read, first and
45:24
foremost, and share a book with them.
45:26
This is a book y'all could go through
45:28
the various chapters and just kind of
45:30
see how they apply to you and how they
45:32
apply to your your your family member.
45:34
Yes to you, no to them. If I had known
45:37
this at an early age, I would have saved
45:40
myself a lot of anguish, a lot of money,
45:43
I would have eradicated a lot of stress.
45:46
You know, it's just a whole lot of
45:48
a lot of time, life quality of life
45:50
would have improved immensely. Um I'm
45:53
learning that now, right? And it
45:55
sometimes it takes people longer than
45:56
others.
45:58
But I appreciate you, Wallow. Thank you,
45:59
brother, man. Keep up the good work,
46:01
man. Give it up for my man, Wallo. Come
46:03
on, man.
46:04
>> Yes.
46:05
>> Another one had to be.
46:06
>> Another one.
46:07
>> Another one.
46:08
>> What we got today? Don't we got a
46:09
meeting?
46:11
>> He's trying to He said he's trying to
46:12
lie you up.
46:12
>> [laughter]
46:13
>> He's trying to lie you up through the
46:14
compadres. Yeah, we got to go We got to
46:16
meet down in Wisconsin. We got to
46:17
[laughter] meet so-and-so here.
46:18
>> Wallo get it.
46:19
>> Yeah, I didn't know
46:20
I didn't know you've been doing this for
46:22
years, man. I'm a team player, Wallo.
46:24
>> You've been doing this for years to her,
46:25
man.
46:27
>> Yo, you know you saw you've been seeing
46:29
us We started [laughter] We We start
46:30
this show
46:31
2015 2015 years, yo.
46:33
>> So, you've been dealing with this?
46:35
>> She's love.
46:36
>> I've known him for 30.
46:37
>> Sway, you just I didn't know you was
46:39
Man,
46:39
>> He like that.
46:41
>> Bro, I'm U, she's Gilly.
46:43
>> Oh my god.
46:44
>> That's how you get That's how you get
46:45
down.
46:45
>> Oh, she tried No, no, no, no. She not
46:46
Gilly, you Gilly.
46:47
>> I'm Gilly?
46:48
>> Yeah, yeah, she's me. He's Gilly. You
46:49
Gilly, you crazy.
46:51
>> [laughter]
46:51
>> He's crazy.
46:52
>> Yes.
46:52
>> Cuz he just be volunteering Yo, they
46:54
having a
46:54
a Popeyes festival. Like, Sway, what you
46:56
mean? No, they cooking different type of
46:58
Popeyes. They have a chicken Popeyes,
47:00
seafood Popeyes, and they going to have
47:02
some musical special guests, somebody
47:03
you like. You get there, you like, Sway,
47:06
they got regular Popeyes here, man.
47:08
Like, they didn't They didn't even got
47:09
no performance. No, I don't know what
47:11
happened to the performance, but we
47:12
going to go ahead We just going to host
47:14
it.
47:14
>> And I didn't even know that he told
47:15
people that I was bringing the Popeyes,
47:17
too. So, when I get there,
47:19
>> All of that happened one time. It was
47:22
the salsa the And when we went to Vegas,
47:24
>> No, yeah, we was supposed to have a
47:26
>> somebody all the way You made somebody
47:27
go all the way to Vegas and volunteer
47:28
their services.
47:29
>> Yes, he put me in a food competition
47:31
cook-off with D Smoke for guacamole. I
47:33
had a Somehow I got into that.
47:37
>> [laughter]
47:37
>> YO, HOW THAT'S THE WILDEST [ __ ] EVER.
47:40
LISTEN, LISTEN. You and D Smoke Listen,
47:42
I would never put you and D Smoke and
47:44
just y'all just having a cook-off. He
47:45
just Yeah, yeah, he'll help me do it.
47:46
Don't worry about it. She know how to
47:47
make the salsa. She like, "What do you
47:49
What Hold. What in your mind thought
47:51
[laughter] that was a good idea just to
47:52
volunteer?"
47:53
>> it was genius.
47:54
>> D Smoke was sitting here talking about
47:55
all his
47:56
>> When did she know she was going to
47:57
happen?
47:58
>> sitting here and it happened right in my
47:59
face. I'm sitting here at work minding
48:00
my business. D Smoke start talking about
48:03
how he cooks on his Instagram, all of
48:05
his he makes the best guacamole ever.
48:07
And Sway goes, "Well, you know Heather
48:08
can cook?
48:10
Y'all should Y'all should battle."
48:11
>> I was like, "Yeah, cuz I knew he
48:13
couldn't [laughter] beat her." And I you
48:14
know
48:15
But But how did you know she had time
48:17
like the battle and all that? How did
48:18
you know?
48:19
We were going to Vegas to broadcast for
48:22
for a few days and I knew, you know.
48:24
>> So, you just volunteered her spare time.
48:25
>> Well, I You see, you're looking at it
48:27
wrong. I'm looking at it No, I'm putting
48:29
the spotlight on on a skill set that
48:31
people need to know she has. Kind of
48:33
like Kind of like But you you did that
48:36
with, you know, with Daddy Kane, Big
48:38
Daddy Kane. You put a spotlight on a
48:39
skill set that people needed to know
48:42
Kane has. Same with Slick Rick. You know
48:45
what I mean?
48:45
>> How you know she wasn't trying to chill
48:47
by the pool, get a relax?
48:48
>> Cuz she said yeah, she agreed to it.
48:50
>> No, I had no He put me then D Smoke
48:52
started start talking [ __ ] So, now I
48:55
got to bring I'm in Vegas instead of
48:57
chilling in my really beautiful room,
49:00
I'm out shopping in Vegas for avocados.
49:03
>> Think about that. And then it'd be hot
49:05
out there.
49:05
>> Yeah, it's going to be hot, bro. But But
49:07
But my whole thing is so you're her
49:08
booking agent.
49:09
>> Everything.
49:10
>> I do a lot of booking.
49:12
But I understand what you're saying.
49:14
Yeah, I I didn't You don't feel like I
49:15
considered her time.
49:16
>> And he didn't show up. D Smoke never
49:18
showed up.
49:19
>> Yeah, D Smoke
49:20
>> D Smoke, man, how you not going to show
49:21
up for the I'm disappointed in you, D.
49:23
>> Yeah, man. Me D Smoke. And not only did
49:26
he not show up, he ain't called back
49:27
since about that. Let me say that.
49:30
>> D Smoke, man, we got to
49:31
>> He didn't want the smoke. We going to
49:32
take that off his name. Your name is
49:34
officially just D.
49:35
>> So So So you booked You booked her for a
49:37
event where nobody showed up. You booked
49:39
her up for that.
49:40
>> No, yeah. People showed up, but he
49:42
didn't.
49:42
>> The guest All the guests showed up.
49:43
>> So, she still had to make it.
49:44
>> Yeah, it was great. Yeah. Everybody
49:46
loved it. James Tony came by. He ate it.
49:49
Who else came by? Zab Judah.
49:51
>> You just You just happy cuz you wanted
49:52
it. THAT'S IT.
49:54
>> [laughter]
49:56
>> IT WAS A PART OF IT.
49:57
>> THIS MAN IS YO, MAN, I can't believe you
49:58
doing this to her, man.
50:00
>> Nah, she all right. Look.
50:01
>> Wow.
50:01
>> You know what? We I'm starting a
50:02
campaign, man.
50:03
>> What's What's that?
50:04
>> FREE HEATHER B.
50:06
YO, I'M GETTING A SHIRT MADE, MAN.
50:08
HEATHER B. WHEN you see me with THAT
50:09
SHIRT
50:10
>> [laughter]
50:11
>> I'M TIRED OF THIS [ __ ]
50:11
>> I CAN'T get out. I try to quit EVERY
50:13
DAY, RIGHT, JOHN?
50:16
>> It worked out, though. Man, the
50:17
>> Every day, John.
50:19
>> I can't believe this [ __ ]
50:20
>> I ain't tasted any guac that tastes that
50:21
good, bro.
50:22
>> Did you Did he ever ask you to make it
50:23
again?
50:24
Did he have the nerve to ask you that?
50:26
>> He lives across the hall.
50:28
>> you asked her to make you
50:29
[clears throat] So, she'll Every time he
50:30
asks you that, I think he being funny.
50:32
He being smart. Yo, you got any
50:33
guacamole? Like, that's like
50:34
>> doing today? What you cooking? What you
50:35
got? Turkey wing Whatever. He It is
50:38
>> Oh, so he just he just puts you in a
50:40
360.
50:41
>> Walo things, man.
50:42
>> That's the name of the book.
50:44
That's a 360 friend bill. That's a 360
50:46
friend bill.
50:47
>> [laughter]
50:47
>> Yes to you, no to them. So, yeah, but
50:51
that's the name of the book. All right.
50:54
>> Free Heather B.
50:55
>> All right, free Heather [laughter] B. We
50:56
going to close the show out right now,
50:57
man. Thank you for coming, bro.
50:59
WE'LL BE BACK TOMORROW.
51:01
>> WE GOT TO GO TO DOT ORG. Sound
51:02
[laughter] four. THIS DUDE KNOCKING ON
51:04
THE DOOR come out with some food. Is you
51:06
cooking over here?
51:07
You don't even happen to be cooking.
51:08
>> All right, Walo. Good to see you. Tell
51:10
Gil I said what up.
51:11
>> WALO BIG'S BROTHER.
51:13
>> [laughter]
51:15
>> ON THAT NOTE, WE HAVE nothing left to
51:17
say.
51:18
TAKE US OUT.
51:19
>> WE OUT. PEACE.
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