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Subscribe to Sway's Universe for exclusive interviews and groundbreaking insights! In this episode of "Sway In The Morning," Grammy award-winning artist Estelle unveils the secret to her eternal joy, exploring how divine order shapes her life. Dive into a candid conversation where Estelle discusses her new album, which serves as a soulful embrace for herself rather than a traditional commercial goal.
She opens up about unlearning behaviors that no longer align with her true self and reveals how her life is orchestrated beyond worldly expectations. Discover Estelle's journey of transformation, and how her podcast, The Estelle Show, allows her to explore various passions.
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CHAPTERS:
04:06 - Joy of Making Music
08:22 - Album Goals and Soul Hug
10:16 - Divine Anointing
10:55 - Unlearning Negative Behaviors
13:39 - Album Name Reveal
17:32 - The Estelle Show Podcast
19:24 - Playing Garnet Experience
20:33 - Fan Love and Support
23:23 - Relationship with Fatman Scoop
25:16 - Unforeseen Moments in Life
29:10 - Estelle and Keith Harris Perform "American Boy"
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I find that interesting right there that
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powerful message that was um put out
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that was way back in 2014 10 years ago
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that was 10 years ago since then true
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romance um what else lovers rock um have
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come out since then but this is when she
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was woo
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man that sound wise that sound like
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she's smart well she sound like she was
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on point back then right well and uh and
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since then it's 10 years later and I
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think the 18th day that came out back in
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200 what 4 yeah so we're talking 20
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years later and the messaging that you
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heard in that message is dealing with
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integrity and not bending or
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compromising who you are absolutely is
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the formula to be around for 20 years in
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this business or any other business and
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those words were spoken by the one and
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only the Grammy awardwinning Estelle is
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here ladies and
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gentem
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some that's Cy G she back New York she
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and DB andani they're back in New York
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when you hear when you hear your voice
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yeah who was that person I like her I
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don't know she sound a little she sound
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like she's small like she been through
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some stuff I like her yeah she's all
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right is anything about her then that uh
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you kept with you today I yeah I keep
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her all I keep her all I keep all of her
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you know um this uh that was
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oo like wow he myself um no I keep her
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all it's absolutely here with me today
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the music feels like that you know it
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feels like but with a bit more Grace
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with a bit more grace right yeah with a
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with a lot more grace saying bit yeah
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yeah 20 years and you only about 27
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years old you
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know man you looking great say Jesus
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some sunshine and a a good spirit that's
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what it is it's God no really it's God
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it's nothing to do with me it's nothing
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to do with me I just I I can't call it I
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don't know I feel like I look the same
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everyone's like you you haven't really
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aged or the internet tell me if I have
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or not but yeah know but I yeah no I I
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stay I I I stay looking at myself and
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renewing myself as much as I possibly
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can and editing and organizing myself as
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I go along the way so I try to grow you
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know I mean it ain't always easy I I
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would imagine H has your faith ever been
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challenged in the past 10 years give me
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an example of how yeah like well this
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album um or this song This Album or this
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music Started From like maybe 2019 okay
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after Lover is Rock mhm um was going
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through a little bit of a break not a
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break I hate to use the word break
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because that's semantics but like just a
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little bit of a reinvention or
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Reawakening that make sense um trying to
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figure out things that I've been raised
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with learning that things I've been
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raised with were not true learning that
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the way I looked at my life wasn't
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necessarily truthful to who I was as a
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human so I had to like reconstruct it
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like real life like break it down to
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build it back up again you know the way
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you was living your life wasn't true to
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who who you are as a person yeah at the
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time I was I was tight I was hard
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everything was just so hard and it made
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my life hard and I had this whole softer
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just be nicer to yourself person laying
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underneath me that needed a lot of
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healing that needed a lot of ramping per
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se or just you know clearing up just a
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hug essentially a big Soul hug and I
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gave that to myself and I received it
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you gave yourself a soul hug I gave
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myself a soul hug and I received it from
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other people and amen start with you so
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what what role um did the industry play
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in that convolution oh no I I don't
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think it played a role more than it was
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just I'm I'm in it you know I'm here and
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it is what it is I can choose to be a
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part of it I can choose to use it or let
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it use me and I I I was letting it use
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me for a while instead of using it and
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you know and taking myself my real human
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self out of it when I needed to I was
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just so encompassed by being
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I have to stay in it I have to make
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music I have to and I was miserable yeah
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I said I Ed it out for a few years like
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all right love might be my last turn up
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guys that's fun and go was like no no I
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up more yeah man I love that this is a
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stale hanging out with us right now um
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and I and I would see you in that time
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when you wasn't making music yeah yeah
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right you I've never seen a still you
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I've never seen you without a smile cuz
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what cuz what like what what's that to
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be miserable about lowkey yeah um High
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key what's that to be miserable about
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life is great I I control myself me and
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God it's me and him um I I just you know
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there's miserable times there's times
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when it's like okay yeah that doesn't
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feel and then I have to check myself and
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remember exactly who I am and where I'm
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coming from with it and everything kind
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of is calm you know I'm blessed to be
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here I get very present yeah come on I'm
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extremely like I have I have a divinely
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orchestrated life I know this is a lot
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of spirit talk in the
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morning that's what we here for you know
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I have a divinely orchestrated life and
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I just could not plan it the way it's
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happened what do I have to be miserable
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about you know and I look I think about
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whether I do music or not whether I was
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in in a space with people that are
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famous or what or not I'm still that
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same human there's no reason to switch
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it up I'm happy a lot yeah you're happy
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life yeah yeah that's why I said every
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time I see you smiling I mean she could
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be sleep with a smile
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I've seen it I'm
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genuinely I'm genuinely joyful and so
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when I'm outside I'm happy you know you
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you uprooted yourself I mean you know
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it's it's it's people's biggest fear to
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live in another country what that's fun
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yeah I mean to to to visit is one thing
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but to immerse yourself in a society
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yeah you know and create a whole another
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life and leaving another life and people
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in that life last a little you know
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that's I think it's more for me this is
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about it's Destiny and it's um again
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like I said my life is divinely
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orchestrated if I don't take the jumps
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if I didn't take the leaps there's no
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way I could feel the joy I feel now okay
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and um being in another count neither
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here nor there it's like you just go
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where you're supposed to be planet Earth
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yeah okay Earth is my turf Earth is your
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Turf all right so now we we know why it
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took so long to uh come back with more
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music you was I was going through it you
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was going through it okay of it it feels
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good and then you connected back with
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Keith Harris right Keith never went
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anywhere Keith never went anywhere yeah
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um we've been working Keith understand
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is's one of the producers that I work
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with that has been um in my life
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forever he came in with American boy I
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found out he was one part of the
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production team of American Boy maybe a
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year into having a record um because it
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was produced by Will I Am say Will Smith
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um for by Will I Am shout out to Will i
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Am about that facts The Legend and so we
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just hit it off as friends and he we
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just record music and put it down and
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like much the same way I would do with
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Jerry W with my reggae stuff he uh me
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and Keith would just have a house record
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or or something sitting in the vault and
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maybe in 2012 I had this one record I
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was like I just I just want to have fun
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I feel like I just need my joy back
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right maybe 2012 and then then we got to
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like 2017 2018 I was like all right the
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world is turning I feel it and we need
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to dance again we need Joy again I think
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people need Joy again let's let's I want
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house I want dance I want up I don't
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want to I don't want to slow drag
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nothing yeah and he was like oh that's
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my life like you know he's from Chicago
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that's his whole that's his bag so that
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we got into it and we started recording
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um and maybe 2018 2017 this new set and
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we just we knocked out this wasn't long
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we think about this record per I was in
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there like editing the record to the end
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of the Earth wasn't in there like 12
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hour sessions I already did 4 hour
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sessions really did 4 hours Chuck
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clocked in clocked out I left him with
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the record trusted that it was going to
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be what it need to be uhhuh and um
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prayed trusted that it was going to be
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what need to be and left and he would
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turn it around every single time every
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time Keith Harris salute to Keith Harris
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wanted to give him his flowers so we you
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don't have necessarily you know usually
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when we put our music we we have
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expectations or goals yeah does it sound
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like you have any of those no I mean not
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in a traditional sense okay I my goal is
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I like for every album is for to reach
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the intended this one is uh this one is
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a different thing this is my album for
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me every other album's been about paying
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homage to to a degree where I came from
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my family my past and I had to decide
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who I was in this one it took me this
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this amount of years um if you know my
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albums you know how old I am took me
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this amount of years and I'm proud and
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I'm happy like that's dope yeah man this
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is if this if there was a testament to
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who I am as St as a person this album is
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it this is it come on they just gave her
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a high five no because I think when it's
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though like she came in and we embraced
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and she's like you up you up I know
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y'all get up
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early yeah I'm up I'm up but what I'm
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also up too just in spirit as you
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mentioned you know and I think when you
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when you said something earlier about
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you know sort of unlearning how we grew
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up and and recognizing some of those
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things and I think for me just
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personally when I was doing music
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fulltime I know exactly what you're
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talking about and that experience and I
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feel like I always describe it as this
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hard shell yeah I I was in a very hard
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shell and I needed to you know get get
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out of that cocoon and so you don't
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realize it you are smiling you you want
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you but you have to tap into why why I
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can't break out of this shell you know I
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got to be guarded my mother told me this
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my father taught me that I got to do
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this I got to do that but it's such a
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beautiful experience when you finally
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God finally releases you out of that
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shell it's it's just it's a peace that
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comes with that it's a it's an anointing
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I feel like that comes with that and a
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and a covering even though you're no
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longer in that shell and I think there's
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a freedom yep that allows you to walk in
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your faith and be bold about it because
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you know what that experience was like
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and you're finally on on the other side
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of it and when I heard oi I was like wow
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this sounds so free it sounds so good
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she's in that place she's like I didn't
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know how to describe it but hearing you
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talk I get it and I and I want to
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encourage people to come out of that
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show allow God to because you do have to
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unlearn so many things and it's a
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process like like can you like I'm
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curious to give me an example of what
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you had to unlearn Heather and then and
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then Estelle what you had to
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learn I had to know that I had to learn
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that I didn't always have to make it
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right oh you always it's not it's not
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your responsibility to always make it
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right like sometimes you just have to go
11:14
through things you have to I can't fix
11:17
this I can't make this person love me or
11:20
care about me or want this or want to be
11:22
my partner my friend my or or understand
11:25
my ideas creatively you have to go
11:28
through this because there's going to
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come a time in a day where it's just
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going to be you if you if you these
11:34
dreams that I hear you writing about and
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crying about and and Silent tears and
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those tears were just those prayers were
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just the tears um you you have to go
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boss up and the only way to do that is
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you got to be able to do it yourself you
11:48
got to see Estella is PanAm mining
11:50
behind Heather every word she says she I
11:52
don't want to clap really loud and be
11:53
like yeah because you're saying exactly
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yeah that's it's it's and everybody the
11:58
sooner you could get to that the better
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this you you you you said you had to
12:04
unlearn the lies that you were told well
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just like through what you see growing
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up um for what you see and not just your
12:12
family but just in surroundings the
12:14
things you're told you have to be the
12:16
ways you're told that life has to run
12:18
because you're this kind of human
12:20
according to somebody else and I found
12:22
out that I was my brain and the way that
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I think and the way that I believe and
12:26
the things that have happened to me
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again I look at them like man there's no
12:30
way that happens to anyone if you're not
12:33
listening I'm not this I'm not what you
12:35
think I am and I have to figure out what
12:37
that is you know I understand and I see
12:40
that when things happen when I think of
12:41
things and when I believe in things or I
12:43
say on repeat I'm going to do that and
12:46
then it happens yes and I see the way
12:48
that my friends look at me and they
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don't look at me to make me feel
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unnerved they just kind of like you're
12:52
an odd you're weird how did you just and
12:54
then it happens and then I realize oh
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this that's not everybody you know
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there's certain especially at my age and
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at the time I was doing it um and I am
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doing it you know and I just I stopped
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feeling on guard about things like that
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and I got real comfortable with
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manifestation I got real comfortable
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with
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knowing yeah I came here real
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specifically to do a certain thing as
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all of us have but my purpose in my life
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and my Divine energy the way I move is
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my thing and I had to get real
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comfortable with that and a lot of
13:26
people got uncomfortable with that there
13:28
was a lot of who you think you are is
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and I was like well you know I know who
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I am and you're here so you know who you
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are you know so let's you know let's
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talk about that instead of being on
13:36
defense of each other who you who are
13:38
you you know and that changed a lot of
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conversations with my family with my
13:42
parents with my myself you know being
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present is I feel like one of my
13:47
favorite things Estelle is here Tracy
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EST is here Tracy she my God she one
13:54
this morning too give me some Heather on
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too I wish come through
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I wish I could come through the screen
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right now because this is almost like a
14:02
a free life coach session that we're
14:04
having from all of the honesty that's
14:07
being shared and Estelle I've always
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been such a fan of yours you're so easy
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to be a fan of you're so easy to root
14:14
for and I say that with sincerity when
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it comes to this song like Heather say
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oh I it's like the way it feels in my
14:22
body it's so joyful it's an obvious
14:26
party record but on the flip side it
14:28
also has so much substance and so much
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Soul cuz um all of the verses to me are
14:35
really about personal transformation and
14:38
about healing you know and embracing
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that healing is not linear like on verse
14:42
three you said this might take away your
14:44
pain but on the other hand this
14:46
might hurt you this might put you
14:48
through some things but bring you back
14:50
just the way you like you can you speak
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about cuz fir often when folks um we
14:57
have so many conversations around
14:59
healing now right we're in a world that
15:02
um Embraces a lot of the metaphysical
15:04
but often times folks take that first
15:06
step and feel like you know it'll be a
15:09
magic pill and then they'll just open
15:11
their eyes and tomorrow everything will
15:13
be better but forget that when you face
15:15
yourself sometimes that truth really
15:18
pierces you you know what I mean before
15:22
it helps you it's a reason you started
15:24
doing it like you didn't start doing it
15:25
because you felt good you didn't get
15:27
into your healing back because you felt
15:30
like everything was great so what do you
15:32
expect to come out and face you that
15:33
pain so it's a I learned a a hard lesson
15:37
especially when it started coming back
15:38
to back to back and all the homies was
15:40
gone when I had to look at homies who I
15:42
felt were close and be like you don't
15:44
actually like me oh when it had to be
15:46
like I don't like myself because I have
15:48
myself surrounded by you what am I why
15:50
am I attracting you oh my goodness
15:53
another one every other day was just
15:55
like I had to there were days when I
15:57
would straight be meditating for like a
15:58
week
15:59
hell like every day I was like I need
16:02
like two hours everyone leave me alone I
16:05
I don't got it today and I get up
16:06
meditate go right back into bed you know
16:09
and um classify that how you want but I
16:11
had to go through that because it's it
16:13
was just like an unveiling and an
16:15
unveiling like a rose peeling petals it
16:17
was just consistently like another layer
16:19
another oh my goodness another layer and
16:22
I have an obsession with roses not
16:23
Obsession but I love roses but this
16:25
speaks to it perfectly cuz it was just
16:27
like back to back and but on the other
16:29
side of it the lightness the joy the
16:32
feeling the the ability to be able to
16:34
command it the ability to know where it
16:36
comes from and be able to be like no I'm
16:38
me today and I'm happy and this is where
16:41
I'm going with it you know not just
16:43
affirmations but feeling it like on just
16:45
a cellular level that is inexplainable
16:48
is just it's like the thing you've been
16:51
praying for like oh thank God okay and
16:54
it's going to be more because you know I
16:56
spent way more time being the old
16:59
version of it St then I have being this
17:00
new version so I get myself I like the
17:03
new version man come on I like the old
17:05
version so I she good I wasn't a hater
17:09
me either you know me either I can't
17:11
wait to hear the full body of work then
17:13
me I can't wait to put it up yeah it's
17:15
Joy man it's Joy amen it's Joy is that
17:18
the name of the album no oh my gosh I
17:20
thought I got it you TR it it's on the
17:24
way it's on the way you should call it I
17:26
mean call it Joy if you want whatever
17:27
feel is damn I don't know I feel like
17:31
joy for sure 100% you got the podcast
17:34
the Estelle show y you got 500 episodes
17:37
under your belt M plus we was at 800 now
17:40
y'all at 800 what 800 episodes 800 900
17:44
now how long that take you to do ever
17:47
I've working on this my whole life no um
17:50
well low key I start with apple in The
17:52
Panini um we meant to start in 2019 and
17:55
then it pushed a year and we had this
17:58
idea maybe 2016 mhm here myself my
18:01
management and my crew I'm a music lover
18:04
like yourselves you know I love music
18:06
like I listened to words I listen to
18:08
lyrics like you were playing records
18:09
earlier and I was like I a heard this in
18:11
years I like it unless it's brand new I
18:12
was going for it right sck it along but
18:16
that's my heart and so we started with
18:19
the idea of like having a show that was
18:20
more based on reggae and apple were like
18:22
how would you like to do this for real
18:24
with all your interests and I was like I
18:26
would love to do this for real with all
18:27
of my interests mhm and um that's it
18:30
we've been on Apple the Estelle show for
18:33
uh 4 years 4 years yo a No Fly by Night
18:37
situation it's one of the things I've
18:39
always wanted to do like use all my
18:40
talents this comes with the unlearning
18:42
that I had to just do one thing I'm
18:44
learning that I had to just this had to
18:46
be the 10 pole for everything it's like
18:47
no well you can have a few verical but
18:50
you can and you can be great in all
18:52
these things be present the unlearning
18:55
that you only you only can do one thing
18:59
is something we all really have to
19:02
explore and real pull real back you know
19:05
what I mean we we grew up like in Hip
19:08
Hop you you can only rap it's a new day
19:10
you can't sing if you sing you know they
19:13
you know they'll discredit you none of
19:14
that no our Spirits are so vast and I
19:17
take it back to that as the root our
19:19
Spirits are so vast why would that only
19:21
matriculate into one thing in your
19:23
lifetime so we see you exercising that
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when we watch you on fatal Affair you
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know know what I mean ni and Omars right
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you know what was that like I mean so
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was this the B yeah you know you do your
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thing Venus mhm Venus is you played a
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boy no no Venus is a boy Venus is a boy
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okay all right um no that
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was it's going be boy cut cut it out did
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you play a boy no just well I I played a
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they you played they in Garnet yeah I I
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played uh a character called Garnet
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which is which is a cartoon of it's a
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cartoon called Steven Universe and I
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play the character garet and she is two
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women come together to make the garnet
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um and they and they marry themselves
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the idea is that both of them are Fire
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and Ice you know one's good ballet
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energy and the other ones just Cal and I
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was like oh I see myself there you know
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and so yeah it was an easy role to play
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and plus she plays like the the what she
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they play the big sister of all of the
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gems I have to get the terminal right
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but you fans of Steven Universe
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understand um they play the big sister
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of all the gyms well we have Tavon from
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Houston she's a big fan of Steven's
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Universe right Tavon welcome to the show
20:40
what's up Tay hey Tay Tay good morning
20:43
first time calling wait hold we got a
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first time call what's up with you okay
20:49
all right we we really have aing well we
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really reward you for first time callers
20:53
our effects are off today all right but
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go ahead Tavon say hi to EST oh good
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good morning still happy I got to get
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through to speak to you and I just
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wanted to ask you uh do you have any
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intentions of doing voice acting again I
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L you and Stephen Universe by the way
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thank you baby absolutely yes I'd love
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to um I I enjoy it it's fun I get to
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roll out my bed and do it like like the
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process of it is great by the way but
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honestly being um being the character
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garet was like one of the greatest
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honors of My Life um I never knew it was
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going to um spin into what has become
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but yeah I'd love to do more voice
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acting um it's it's a good time it's a
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good time Tavon thanks for your call
21:36
you're super look forward to it thank
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you baby have a great day you're a super
21:40
citizen come on give her that give her
21:42
that thank you y'all have a good one you
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too
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what hey better late than never torch I
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see you baby I see
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you yeah
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Tor um and and so you live in um
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yeah right um I I I follow you on
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Instagram and I know that you're going
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to be doing club uh quarantine right New
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Year's Eve yes with the one and only D
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nice yeah that's the homie yeah yeah he
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was a he was a lowkey a big part of um
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uh allowing me to give this album his
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Vibe I want to say in the Panini when we
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was all listening to him um on on his
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show on live I say his show on live cuz
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it's a show it was a show at that point
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we were all like tune in he's on live
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let's go everyone got you want let's go
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and I really was listening and
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remembering I've already been in that
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Vibe of listening to like 70s and ' 80s
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disco and soul I was that's where I live
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one of my friends will give me a
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playlist Maybe 2018 like yo and it's got
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every every song it's like 4,000 songs
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on this right okay all right no every
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song every okay and um D I was playing
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all those joints so I was 2: p.m. in the
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afternoon 12: 12 12:00 really and I had
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my red wine and I was dancing around the
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house at everyone like like we was all
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doing in the Panini and I was just like
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yo I forget we forget this this made us
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feel good this made us just it punched
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through our souls this is what I'm on
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something's in the a I feel it you know
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and um we came up with a really good
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record so he's on the album too D nice
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is on the album salute to D nice um I
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wanted to ask you cuz I was anytime I
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can right now I'm trying to put light on
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fat men scoop you know he was somebody
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that I considered a friend you know I
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got a chance to hang out with him a ton
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of times I did you remember that Batman
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scoop was early on podcasting back in
23:38
the day and him and his then wife at
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that time used to do that show where you
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you lay in bed right oh my gosh yes you
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remember that remember
23:47
absolutely and I had the most popular
23:50
episode because I came and got in this
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bed his sounds about right it sounds
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about s me and Schoop almost start
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fighting cuz you know me and wife is
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what are you into when you not on the
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microphone well it was aie it was an
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interview Heather it was just an
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interview you know but talk about I saw
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you really pay homage to him you know
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and and talk about your relationship
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with scoop listen I don't I didn't know
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him too toour but I was super honored
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when I got to well I was super honored
24:18
when he got when I heard the version of
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one love he did because it was just like
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it was a Dodge record like I didn't
24:23
think anyone in Hip Hop was touching
24:24
that record like that I was had one love
24:27
it was David G at beginning of his reign
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of like records he did freak for me and
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then he had one love and then someone
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just said oh look here's a remix with
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Fatman Scoop and I was like what wow so
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and that's the version I play at all my
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shows I've I rock out to that fat man
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scoop version but we also went on tour
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in
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Australia and when I tell you the
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funnest person on the planet good to
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watch good to be around just always
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talking Good Vibes performing
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parentheses but like just on Good Vibes
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and good energy all the time and I was
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like man and you've been here forever
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and you just so happy yeah it's weird
25:04
when people say it to me I'm look at
25:05
someone like him and I'm just like no
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that's that's where you want to be
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that's happy right yeah so I just I'm
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I'm happy to have known him I'm happy to
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have a record with him but I'm happy to
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have known him and met him and been in
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his presence he's a good good guy what
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some moments I always like I somebody
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sent me a clip yesterday that I never
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saw oh no of the moment President Obama
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um AC accepted uh well won the election
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right we were we were in Chicago at that
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field I can't think of the name O'Hare
25:35
maybe I don't know and I was covering it
25:37
for MTV so I was 50 yards away from the
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stage right and and and when they and
25:45
when they made the announcement it I
25:47
made the announcement to the world that
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he became the 44th President of the
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United States and it was that's what I'm
25:53
talking about H that's when I came to
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the United States here thank thank
25:58
you're very welcome yeah right and and
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somebody I never saw it never saw it
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right and I always wondered about that
26:07
moment because that was one of my
26:08
proudest moments someone sent it to me
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yesterday I could show it right um when
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we get off the interview do you have
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moments like that for your career oh
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wow oh that's that's
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hard that's really hard there are many
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of them um and cuz again the way I had
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moved my career before was like knock it
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out get to the next don't even look at
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it you don't even look yeah past five
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six years though you've been I've been
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pausing to enjoy and smell it and read
26:38
it and be in it and see it because I
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want to I want this I want to feel it to
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be able to move to the next um got to so
26:46
the the early ones was um I think maybe
26:49
after not touching the ground for maybe
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12 16 months one of my band members got
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me a DVD of all the performances that we
26:58
we had done oh my gosh and I think I
27:00
about bowled that entire holiday season
27:03
I was like this was the most valuable
27:05
gift but all so like we did all of this
27:09
what it was it was maybe 15 to 20
27:11
performances um TV and shows and
27:15
everything and you know it was just it
27:18
was just a reminder look how far you
27:20
came in such a short space of time but
27:22
also look at you in your light and in
27:24
your brightness and this is you know
27:26
this is you mhm and I couldn't see it
27:28
before especially I was going through a
27:30
full spiral right like y this is crazy
27:32
it's winter I've not made no money I've
27:34
been moving around for years oh my God
27:35
this is trash maybe this is the worst
27:37
experience I ever did in my life at the
27:39
height of American Boy you know um a
27:42
wild timer for the books for the story
27:44
but he gave me that DVD and I was just
27:46
like oh this isn't so trash yeah yeah
27:49
this is not so trash not so bad you
27:52
you're moving in some light just keep
27:53
moving mhm yeah and you those other
27:56
things shall come right yeah ain't
27:57
worried about them man give it up for
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Estelle y'all man we love you thank you
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I love you all right love you EST for
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having me next time you up man we got to
28:05
get a performance I would love that
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listen I also have the Terry Hunter
28:09
remix of um of OI yeah big big house
28:13
remix so you know that'll be coming up
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well we got it's up it's up it's out you
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in La so we got the studios here we got
28:19
performing Studios downstairs so next
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time we come back don't threaten me can
28:25
can no no no we got something we do new
28:27
this why he asking you live
28:29
like your garage series it I you're down
28:32
with it for sure we got her all right Co
28:35
interview
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done man over there like absolutely
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right we love you would be great at
28:41
Nappa Valley too I would love that
28:44
perfect at the black radio experience's
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do it come on yeah I'm sorry I don't
28:48
mean to point at you you looked at my
28:51
finger like I have been performing my
28:52
whole life I would love that especially
28:54
this this music this music yeah okay
28:56
okay we know Robert Glasper M we just
28:59
hosted that okay so come on tell got you
29:02
Robert we I know Robert you next year
29:05
come on bro done let's go I'mma send
29:08
them that too all right please please
29:10
get a drop too okay let's do that all
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right let's do that Estelle thank you we
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going to play oi again so good shout out
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to Keith Harris you think Keith will
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come up when you perform I I think he'll
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be performing with me okay great okay
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he's going to be playing what do you
29:24
what is he plays keys he plays key okay
29:27
oh he plays everything oh man that's the
29:28
legend right there all right Estelle man
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give it up
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