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Dive into the latest episode of "Sway In The Morning" on Sway’s Universe, as host Sway Calloway welcomes back the iconic artist Ferg, who opens up about his new album, "Darold." In this exclusive interview, Ferg delves deep into personal struggles, demons, and redemption, offering a raw and authentic look at his journey in the hip-hop industry. With topics ranging from his evolution as an artist to the intricate balance between fame and personal challenges, this conversation is both enlightening and inspiring.
Ferg shares touching stories about his family, his roots in Harlem, and the profound experiences that shaped his album, making it much more than just a collection of tracks. Witness how his artistic vision and lyrical prowess transform his personal narrative into a powerful musical journey. Don't miss this intimate and revealing discussion that highlights the heart and soul behind Ferg's latest work.
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Intro
01:53 - Ferg Returns to Sway in the Morning
08:13 - Ferg Breaks Down His Lyrics for "ALIVE"
11:29 - Balancing Material Success and Mental Health
13:43 - Fame and Shame
16:22 - Suicidal Thoughts
21:16 - “Demons”
22:41 - Navigating the Industry and Avoiding "Demons"
26:10 - High Energy Production vs. Vulnerable Lyrics
31:40 - Staying Connected to Your Community
31:55 - Impact of Toxic Masculinity on Relationships
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[Applause] amazing amazing this young man is the Trap Lord himself give him a big round
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of applause amazing I've been seeing them in the community for years citizens
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give them a big round of applause and after I saw them in the community I saw him on the charts have the be give him a
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big round of applause and I saw him on the charts I saw him on the stage have the be give him a big round of applause
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then I saw him on the TV screen then I saw him on the movie screen
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every day it's a movie but what I see now man as I see based on this album
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darald I see a vision I see Evolution if there was ever a way to see it if it
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could manifest itself in a a human form I think when you tune into to this album
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and you listen to the topics and the subjects that he speak on so eloquently and so transparently to me um there are
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a few albums that I say have wings on it and it's because of its substance it ain't because of if it charred or not it
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ain't because of who's featured on it it's because of his impact this is one of those you want to sit down you're
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going to party to it and while you're partying while you're partying you're going to be thinking at the same time
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about wait what's happening when the song goes off what happens when the club
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ends what happens when the the tour is over and you got to really reflect and
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deal with life not just the life in the present but the life that that you you shunned you swept it under a rug you
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ignored it we all do that facts I do that myself sometimes I know things AR
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aren't align with myself but I got enough toys in my life where I could have fun you know I know enough people
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where I could just get on the road and do some things and I don't have to deal with it I dare say this man dealt with
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it on this album welcome him back to the show this our family right here the one and only Ferg is here fer is here F hey
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come on feels good to be back a man in a minute I know last time I came here I
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rap for about a whole hour with chance to R yo that was a m that was legendary
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I I stayed for I when I came and stayed I did an interview for myself and then
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like stayed through like chances interview and just I WAP for mine and then I raing his yo yo and Taylor Taylor
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Ben Taylor and his brother but that that spoke to your heart last time where was where were we when we saw fur glass uh
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fat schol Memorial that's right that touched me uh
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I was um performing at the Apollo it was at the Apollo and um when I realized that
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Fatman scoop's casket was in front of the stage it rocked me yeah I just came
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down to my knees I touched the casket and it was just like I kind of like just got shook up yeah bro yeah yeah we I
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didn't even know that either we and we I was one of the host and I when I went on the front of the stage and saw the
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casket and saw his family yeah you know it just uh for me man Haven seen his
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rise knowing him before he became the fat man scoop that everybody knows now watching him work with Tommy Boy doing
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all the things he could to hustle to get to that point I think it's important that when we grieve we do it
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collectively right and I was happy to see you there I was happy to see Jim Jones there I was happy to see everybody
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that came webar to support his family like that I think we're reaching that point we've reached that point in the
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culture in the community where we have to deal with those things all the time so it was good to see you there but I was happy to see you yeah all right give
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it up for Ferg man Ferg who are you bro who are you man
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when trap Lord came out in what 2013 yeah 2013 in 11 years when I listen to
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this album I want to know who is this man what what what are his thoughts when you
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when you reflect on his career feel like you have a lot to say about life and about even career this this industry who
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are you today man it was a lot to unpack um I'm Daryl today okay um Daryl is an
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artist um a AR a artist of different mediums you know I could paint I can
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design clothes I went to Art School Art and Design High School um that's where a lot of uh I met a lot of my good friends
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that I'm still friend friends with to this day um and I'm also a musician I'm a battle
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rapper um I'm a guy that come from Harlem I'm
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flamboyant uh I'm a goat uh I'm a genius I'm a futurist I
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see things before they happen I could look at a canvas and see colors and
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things that before they even happen and then I go and hit the brush and voila it
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happens I could look at clouds and see Mickey Mouse from the clouds the form of the
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clouds I can make I can see I look at marble and I can see a face in the
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marble like that's who I am you always had that ability yes was it always
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nurtured when you were younger yes I mean my dad um he did he designed the
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bad boy logo and the Uptown cast logo that's right for Andre harell give it up for sior come on darl that's huge come
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on come on come on he printed a lot of shirts for um he he actually did uh some
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stuff for norga I think he did his logo as well go hard boys um that's the biker
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crew on Harlem Shay um yeah Teddy Riley
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you know uh dappan was his his mentor Alpo Martinez the the known drug
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dealer he brought him his first machine so screen machine um he printed shirts I
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mean he did shirts for Nicki barondes back in the days um Richard Porter was one of his best friends y'all watch the
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pton full movie you'll know these names yeah my father was actually supposed to be in the pton full movie but he turned
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the roll down because he didn't like the um what it was representing okay yeah uh
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they shot a movie um they shot a movie I forget the name of the movie in his store where T oh my
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uncle not here yeah yeah but I could somebody's gonna pop up in the comments and and tell you the name of the movie
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the movie is yeah so this album Kevin Hart was in it Kevin Hart was in the movie yeah I think Snoop Dogg was in my
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pop store too okay all right um so is this album about you and him no this
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album is about Daryl and what makes Daryl so it's about me and my family and
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the trials and tribulations of who Daryl is what actually um the energy that
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makes me you know whether it's like my father my mom my mom is on the album
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she's on a a song called chosen with Mary J blud yeah I got dapp it in who's
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like my Oracle he he's like it feel like y'all doing like an interview throughout the whole process is that or what what
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was his involvement how did you see so um when I looked at this album I kind of
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looked at it like the Matrix and how they had a spiritual God you know they'll go see the the old
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black woman in the in the projects and uh she she was the Oracle and she told uh Neo he was the one and um she said
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basically you know just jump and trust yourself type thing that's how I look at dap like dap to the world is a
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designer to me he is the Baba he is the guy I go to um for spiritual guidance
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and things like that he's 70 something years old yeah he's vegan he's
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plant-based yeah um he's probably like one of the first vegans in Harlem and
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um a lot of things he say make sense yeah yeah daa Dam man we had him up here
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and it was just like a lecture hall um get his book too right mhm um I pulled
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up some lyrics man where are my lyrics at here bro I love this yeah man this is
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this this album is about the lyrics it's about it ain't even like the Beats is amazing yeah I have amazing producers on
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there but the lyrics When you when you take the beat away that's where it is
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the lyrics the lyrics bro people need to read this like a book I I felt like that
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um just going through the process I just wrote down a bunch of notes and I was like this is one of those this is um
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you people like [ __ ] you know it's it's funny I just did a double XL with um a
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freestyle with a [ __ ] and um S Walker o yeah yeah check that out when you get
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yeah yeah yeah yeah that you guys uh sit down listen to the lyric artist to me yeah can we go over a few yeah let's do
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it okay all right good all right good man uh where's my Alive lyrics
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Here I'mma start with verse three yeah let's do a lyrical breakdown I can break
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it down like whatever you want un Sway in the Morning there a lot in this song
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alive right so good [ __ ] it I'm going start with verse one
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um meditate to stop all of the brain fog logged out and turned Instagram off God
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whispered take all of them chains off when did was that really a moment
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yeah uh I went to Liberia to uh so I was a part of a program called uniform uh
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shout out to chit Liberty he brought me in and he was doing a program where he
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was making uniforms for kids and Africa and Liberia so how it works is he'll collab
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with an artist or somebody with a influence and he'll
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basically help their economy and their factories because when the Ebola happen
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people stopped ordering stuff from them because they didn't want to get contaminated Goods but it was like all
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good stuff like they just didn't have no business so he created a business in Liberia where he could take all of the
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Fabrics make stuff with his his um influence of friends or friends of influence and sell stuff and uh Bloom
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andells bload dels and the proceeds will go back some of the proceeds would go back to the kids in Africa to like build
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things and create uniforms so I said in order for me to be a part of this um I got to come see the operation so me and
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my mom and my uncle we flew out to Liberia we was in West Point Liberia and
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um um no D yeah we went to uh place called Dupont Palace uhuh that's what
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it's called and uh we had went out there and literally seeing kids walking
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outside of the factory with the uniforms on because they didn't have clothes so they was just wearing the clothes they
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was wearing a uniform just for clothes playing soccer in their uniforms I mean like you know it was a beach where like
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dead rats next to the fish that they were scaling we went through the Huts I met a little girl named gifty who like
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um super beautiful little girl energy out of this
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world excited about life but had so little yeah and she lived in a small Hut
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and it's like made out of cement it's like a jail sale with like a small TV for like a family of 11 which would be
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like a family for like like it'll be a place for like a family for like three MH and um I'm like wow these people are
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so happy and they don't even have that much and um when I came back home I
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started giving away mad my jury you gave it away yeah I was giving away a lot of
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my jury wow and then um that's where that line in plain Jane come from I was like uh ER M Linka the village in
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Liberia because when I came home I had that was when I just got the
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yamb beghini chain uhuh how much was that worth uh ax B
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baller okay yeah well if we threw a number six
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figures I don't want to I don't want to talk about okay um but yeah Ms link
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could feed the village in Liberia it was a fact like one of these Rings could feed the village in Liberia It'll like
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just do more for whatever they got going on and um I just felt like what is all of this for and um yeah yeah I love that
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Revelation right there man it makes it hard right especially when you come back
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but it was also learning sorry to cut you it was also learning um how to balance it right because we are kings
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and queens and um you know when I look at
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gold I look at it like a a a precious metal now I don't look at it like it's
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just something you know we just trying to attract a status symbol flesh witht
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you know what I'm saying I'm I'm looking at it like this is what the Egyptians wore to to attract Sun and light and healing
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that's what we wear gold for you know what I'm saying so you know it's golden pyramids that's why they put all the
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gold in the pyramids yeah MH Fergus here gims gems and jewels that's what happens when you leave Harlem
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um or just watch YouTube uh um God whispered take all the
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them chains off [ __ ] I spent 300,000 on the range for validation what I used to
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tried to hide the shame with the fame' got guilt that drove a [ __ ]
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insane what's that survivors remorse survivors remorse for sure yeah I like
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for a long time I just don't understand why me and it was so weird and
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uncomfortable because like I'm the first in my family to like really like go and
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um out of my friend group really like to just you feel me
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so um yeah it was like I couldn't take a lot of people with me for years like and
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I felt like I was um having separation anxiety
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like the mob is like something we
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formulated and and we definitely was like homies we we linked up but we linked up for a purpose and the purpose
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was like all right this is what we doing we going to do the music we gonna We GNA take this over and do this but before
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that I have a whole another friend group that I went to school with and
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like art and design with and you know the Lays the J West the Ws the carons
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you know all of these Josh uh that couldn't go with me because
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like it wasn't enough space on the bus and I was in the passenger side like I'm
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like just getting pems I couldn't even afford to take people with me m so it was like it was out of my hands that's
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why in my last interview I think it was with The Breakfast Club I said
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uh what I what I said I said um yeah I forgot what I said but yeah I just got
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lost in the train of thought I'm s we'll get it back all right through these lyrics but um you were talking
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about you know the guilt the guilt that you had that you was the one that was making it and then it the it goes tried
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to hide a shame with the fame y'all got guilt that drove a [ __ ] insane y'all suicide became one of my main thoughts
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Uber asking [ __ ] for a night cap addicted to the [ __ ] learning how to fight that jogging in the do I had to
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get my sight back Ken hil's injures with a ice pack let me head to therapy and I'll be right back I feel alive now I'm
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on the right track the song name is alive yeah get that a round of applause I I've never experienced um those kind
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of thoughts but I will say I've heard more people speak out openly about Suicidal Thoughts at
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what point did those thoughts creep in cuz it seemed like they came at the height of your
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success uh I started having those thoughts during the madman tour and it's so funny like after that my mom was like
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why did you name that tour madman tour it's like I I was like a mad right
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casting spells casting spells exactly yeah yeah names is heavy
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um she was like why did you name that that that tour the madman tour and it's because I got a song with Playboy cardi
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called madman well uh marel madman that's what it's called but uh yeah
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that's where that came from and um yeah it was just heavy for me
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um I think up up until that point I had pushed myself way too hard and um I was
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just trying to understand what was it all for I was just trying to understand why I was going so hard I would see
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other celebrities going super hard but then suffering from mental illnesses and
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melt meltdowns and things like that I remember I had to talk with Kanye on the phone and um this is when he was like
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turning up like he was like meltdown Central and I was supposed to link with him in the studio but I'm going through
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my own [ __ ] so I'm like I ain't going to link this dude right now yeah yeah cuz it's just going
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to like really just activate just a bunch of other [ __ ] you know energy is
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is um it's contagious so yeah I just it was a lot of things to
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unpack you got to understand like it was a lot of things I was trying to understand yeah
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um and I was tired like I I remember going to um my ex-girlfriend rip tanil
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that was my first she passed away and then I had like this YouTube interview
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that day but my man did not like abort the mission like we pushed it back once
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and then they was like oh we couldn't push it back again and I'm like [ __ ] a interview yeah like I'm dealing with
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yeah death come on you know what I'm saying allow me to have this moment allow me to feel we still went on
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through the day had the interviews but I'm at the funeral they're waiting outside of the funeral in the van for me
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to come back in and do the interview but um I remember just uh what was scary for
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me was um I seen her whole family like crying and and things like that and I just felt
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like I was not there like I just felt like um I had like a a what they call it
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like a disassociation like whereas like my body was there but my mental was not there
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and that scared the [ __ ] out of me because you know that's my first like we been we was together for three years her
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family is like my family you know I didn't see them in a long time but when I see seen them you know it just it hit
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me crazy and and I just couldn't connect in an emotional way and that [ __ ]
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bothered me wow uh I'm glad you here with us today in that therapy was it the
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therapy that helped walk you just help you get on the path you needed to be on I think the
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therapy definitely help for sure and meditation I say therapy and meditation
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and working out working out okay what's your regimen like uh my regimen is like
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I definitely get like cardio whether it's 30 minutes to an hour um I try to
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go every day I didn't go today because it's early yeah it it rocked me and yesterday I was up late like I had did
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DJ self like mad late he had a party in his studio so but um yeah like uh so I
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usually get up I I do my um my routine whether it's running walking and then I
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I get a little bit of lifting it I'm already I'm already like bulky I don't really need too much of that I
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need to get in these clothes yeah yeah yeah I'll be having that problem exactly U you look good though you look like
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like you've like been like I look at y'all you know what I'm saying like the guys that come before me that take care
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of themselves and you know you know I look at the skin and I look at the eyes how white it is and how vibrant you talk
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and how like the pep in your step I'm like oh yeah that's the energy like I want to have when I get his age yeah man
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it could happen for you man to stay the course oh yeah I got t f i got look my yo T Ferg is giving everybody run for
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their money so T Ferg look good man living with my uncle living with my
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uncle man he put the pressure on everybody so I love it Ferg is here man we going to open up these phone lines
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888 742 3345 uh I'mma play uh let's play a song
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and then come back with Ferg all right let's play Demons m
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it's a song he has called demons when I first saw the title I kind of went oh jeez where's this going to go yeah it
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kind of It kind of it kind of gives you like oh like oh yeah you about to be on demon time yeah I get that and that's
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why I was supposed to really be in quotations uh souling for sale but that's that title was just too long um I
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remember like trying to get Lil John on the song because I just heard him doing like alibs on there yeah and I got like
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he actually like told me he was like um bro I would love to but the name what
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you talking about like it can summon spells and and he just like aborted the mission I felt them I understand like
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you know people don't play with those vibes yeah but what I'm saying is actually positive I'm just talking about
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the demons let's play it man um Fergus here 888 742
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3345 demons Berg Berg is here Daryl to
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name of the project per I got a caller that wants to talk to you about demons
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this particular song named pale P go ahead yeah yeah what's good what's going
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on family long time long time listen I haven't called in a minute it's hard to get through to y'all these days man y'all popping like that well you know
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man Hey listen it's been a long time we've been popping all right go ahead with your
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question up Ferg what's good man first and foremost man thank you for that type of song man cuz he much said he sway
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beat me to a lot of the stuff that I really wanted to say about it but how do you
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navigate being as righteous as you are and seeing all sectors of
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this industry and what advice do you have for somebody that's on the cus of entering into this
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industry to try to avoid the [ __ ] of those
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demons um h
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I think that like for me I just keep my family close as much as I can I got a
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family Rand business my uncle's my security my mom does my accounting my
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cousin is my my uh assistant my other Aunt takes care of my house like I have
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a family Rand business I I keep real people around that's going to tell me my
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breath stink that's going to um let me know things that I don't really want to
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hear at the time um but the truth and you know they'll they'll watch it
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back all right P thanks for your question man you got the project P yeah
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man I I I stopped what happened was I really just stopped on that record because it just grabbed me I'm like I
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said I'm on a cuss of something and I'm I'm listening to my father he
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always warns me my father's from M Veron he seen he grew up with Heavy D and he
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just been around so he always warned me about diving into this particular life
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like that so hearing him talk about it so vividly like that like I've been
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listening to ver since Let It Go wow thank you you know what I mean so I'm a fan so him putting this out
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there like that and being a fan of yams and watching everybody's moves how they
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doing hearing him say that makes me open my eyes and like almost questions do I
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really want to do it but I feel like I love hip hop so
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much do do it but do it on your uh Court whatever you whatever you feel is
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right P there you got the game right there man you a super citizen keep us posted on it right you are morning
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because we need you hopefully I'll be up there soon CUA I got
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friends put my bu your friends ain't going to help you unless you got bars son all right
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it's for all right you a Citizen though man go ahead take that citizenship let Ty get on the line from Maryland Ty what up
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what up Tod hey yo yo yo what's up what's up I just wanted to you know shout out F man I've been [ __ ] with Y
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the whole mob since you know from from the beginning I remember y'all came to the Filmore you know what I'm saying I've been rocking with y'all for a
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minute I just want to speak on the whole you know suicidal joint you know I done been through there I had to learn that
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you know what I'm saying just knock one issue out at a time you know what I'm saying stop sit back deal with one issue
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at a time one foot forward type you know what I'm saying so I just want you know say I appreciate you for the song bro keep doing your thing keep hustling man
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[ __ ] with y'all appreciate you my man Ty you a citizen man s in the morning F I got to say and I mean everyone in here
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can agree like as soon as I hit play on the record my attention was fully
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snatched by you wow sincerely and I want to know you're very welcome it feels
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intentional that you have kind of this duality of high energy production but
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then you have very vulnerable substantial
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lyrics talk about that jua position cuz sometimes when you hear what feels like
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a ripped page from someone's journal sometimes the music can be like heavier more somber but you chose to turn it up
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well we all have uh dual personalities we're all not one way that's what the ying and the Yang is that's that's
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called balance that's the uh Kundalini is the male and the female energies that you know go up that pole
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but um yeah it's just uh that was me expressing that and my friend Asad thank
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him for that because uh he was like yo I think that you should be like super just drastic with it like it's just
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like you're this way but you're also this way like I'm a jiggy [ __ ] but I'm
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also conscious [ __ ] like you know what I'm saying like I could go to the strip club but I could go to church tomorrow
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like right all of us do that like strippers are getting in their car and
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listening to Anita Baker like while getting ready this is a
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this is a this is real people this is what I I want to talk to people's Soul
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like I'm not talking to like the surface [ __ ] we got enough of that and that was the reason why it took so long to create
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because I was just trying to figure out how to talk from this this new place yeah you know it's easy to think this
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way I'm pretty sure like you know everybody's getting money on 21 Savage getting money future everybody getting
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money this [ __ ] is lit Travis Scott everybody getting money and we're seeing new things and we
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know what making the money but it's like how can we unsee what we seen right we
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at a height we see things yeah so we just can't ignore [ __ ] you know what I'm saying so like how do we articulate what
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we see that's what being an artist is you could be a hustler or you could be an
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artist and for me I'm an artist amen you know what I'm saying my art is taking what I see and making it palatable for
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people to digest you know what I'm saying because not everybody going to have the ears and the eyes to understand
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what I'm doing if I'm just a monk somewhere in Tibet chanting for 24 hours
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not having sex you know on a mountaint on a mountain top like yeah like what
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did you see on that mountain top like that's how you you got to bring that back to the the people and that's what
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Hood Pope is about it's like you know I'm Hood but I'm Pope yeah and that's what keeps you from becoming also like a
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spiritual elitist too where you would only want to be with certain people that have your level of awareness but not
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come down and teach others yeah that's whack because then like we just what is the point of
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having what is the point of having um what is this point of the body of God
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we call the universe when every person is like a a blood
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cell like this is a cell I got to see him do good you're a cell I got to make sure you're good I got to make sure
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you're good because if you get sick and I just watch you sick you poor you in
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the street you ain't got no bread and I just walk past you now you doing what
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you got to do to support your your baby that's hungry so you feel like you got to rob somebody you got to steal now
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that's causing problems like a bad blood cell will cause problems in your body
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yep so that's how I look at it it's like we got to start fixing it ain't about
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like this is ours this is our [ __ ] like this is hip-hop is ours I don't know who
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owns the name hip hop but I feel like cool her or one of them [ __ ] should own that [ __ ] yeah like I kind of know I
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love what Nas is doing like it ain't herk let me say that but go ahead yeah
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but like this is our [ __ ] and even if we don't own the name the name is just the name we own the energy we make new names
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this some new [ __ ] like [ __ ] we talk about it's old [ __ ] I heard you in the interview say that um uh through all
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your accolades and your experiences you find that hanging out in those Elite crowds that she's talking about like
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around folks who are already rich can be boring yeah I'm not even just talking about like Elite crowds because I got
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Elite friends that's actually good people yeah you know what I'm saying okay I have Elite friends that's
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actually like because like how am I even raising my My Vibes to even this point
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of seeing different things I appreciate my friends that have more than me that's able to pull me up and do things so I
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don't want that to get misc conscrew but there is a lot of rich people that
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that don't have swag and no energy and they just drain your energy cuz they only know how to capitalize off of your
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energy like like a vampire exactly that's interesting Fergus here
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man get this man a round of applause I love this conversation talk about hold up I I told
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this young man who's a Ferg fan that think of a question and I'll let him and
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and tell him to ask I told him ask something no something that nobody's ever asked him got you all right this is
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uh goad tell them your name man how you doing fer I'm Tyler there youpp bro how's everything man so a question I
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have for you right and kind of bouncing off of this how you talking about being around people that keep it real and
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people that are very authentic to themselves what how important is it to you to stay connected with your community in Harlem and I asked this
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because uh when I used to work for my previous radio station we would come through and do a street team and I would see you walk through the streets of
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Harlem so I was like wow it's interesting to see someone that's at such a high level coming back and
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walking through the neighborhood like you know like it's nothing so I wanted to ask you how important is it to stay connected with the roots in Harlem what
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street was that uh we were there by the Apollo f um I never felt like I had to
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move away from where I was like from why when you could just bring
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Equity there like I watch Dappa Dan do it like he still lives in Harlem to this day um I seen camon in the community I
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seen Jim Jones and Joel's in the community I watch DMX Go to the same barber shop I went to with his just his
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two dogs two platinum albums out with a movie and he's by himself with two dogs
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going to my barber shop the same Barber Shop um I watch DMX Go to my father's
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store like so I never felt like I had to move out of where I was from to like
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feel like successful or I like where I'm from I like myself yes so um fargus here
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man good question man you can ask another one another guest later on in few later on in a
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year I I want to ask you um um my Beginnings I came into the game as an
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artist too so it's a I think um early on I think uh my partner keing Tech and I
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would made us would built our fortitude was we was always coming from an artist perspective you know what I mean so the
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early years I was just trying to protect ask questions artists would ask um there
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was things that I wouldn't have never wrote about as an artist that happened or that
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I went through when I hear this song um pull yep you know and some of the things
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you write I want to know why now you know if I reveal one of the lyrics it
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says at 10 I was drowned at at nine I was drowned in touch when I was in a pool uh all the breath left my body
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where I couldn't move violated handle my private by a bigger dude seconds felt like forever really wasn't cool when he
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see me around the block he had smile and laugh and though he had a little secret and I hated that thinking about that [ __ ] really
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made me mad thought about murder I really wanted to kill his ass told nobody except my cousin one time he made
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a joke and he ain't know nothing I asked God why me let me know something I like girls [ __ ] you thought that [ __ ] on
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something as a kid all this guilt laid up inside of a couple [ __ ] called us gay cuz we was designing things I was
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triggered and that [ __ ] really bothered me toxic toxic masculinity was building up inside of me so I had to I had to
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have women in variety this the chip that took me out of poverty uh I was running from the people in the pain running from
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the guilt in the fame trying to hide the guilt with the fame um everybody hate when everybody love when it's sunny but
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tell me who going to let me through the rain uh when this game who shall remain I just hope you never change yeah you
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you chose to write about that on this project why uh why not
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mhm a lot of people don't want to reveal that they were touched you know that's why a lot of people who were molested
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don't confront as they men as especially man and it's because of what triggered
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you when people thought ASAP M because y'all was designing and doing all these different things might be gay yeah you
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know um so was it important for you to mention it for yourself or maybe as others cuz this [ __ ] happens in the hood
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right and we don't hear about it a lot for sure uh I just got infatuated with
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my truth beautiful statement I'm like damn that [ __ ] is lit
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like yeah I can't die without like giving the whole story yeah like I be watching like Quincy Jones documentaries
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and just people who like live very full lives and I'm like yo when I go I want
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my [ __ ] to be lit like like I Thrive off that [ __ ] and I want to be like I'm like
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I thrive myself off being the realest [ __ ] alive and I used to kind of like fight that fight with that a little bit
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because I'm like damn the real [ __ ] don't really get they they just do or like you know the fruits and [ __ ] like
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that you don't really we don't really see the uh the real [ __ ] winning sometimes because there is some
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real [ __ ] winning but it's it could be more of us and I just wanted to add to the real [ __ ] that's winning hell yeah
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yeah I love it uh Ferg is here man a big round of
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applause you know what I'm wondering wait I'm before you go there because toxic M this is a subject that men don't
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often get a chance let it Sizzle yeah yeah let it Sizzle for a second um where
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how how has that impacted your relationships now you know
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um I was always in a long relationship my last relationship was 9 years years
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mhm um the one before that was about seven years the one before that was about 5
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years the one before that was like three years I've been in straight
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bids like locked down uhhuh but I I also feel like that
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um that's that stagnated me a little bit because I I felt like I needed
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security maybe like some type of protection mhm and I want to grow like I
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remember like laying in bed with my ex thinking like you know this is like a few exes ago I was just like man this
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[ __ ] Travis Scott is at the Amigo's crib he just getting all the music done
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and I'm here just laying with you you didn't say that out loud did you
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in my mind I was saying that loud yeah and uh I was just like man I got to I
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got to really pour into myself cuz I'm not really tapping into who I could really who I'm meant to be you know what
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I'm saying like I'm not really really going for it and you know we all you know get roadblocks put into you know
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our way when we when we striving for something so that was just one of them that I felt like all right I don't need
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to have somebody to and then also with the game the game is so
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crazy you know I'm a rapper I got everything I can have any girl I want I can you know every all these things is
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around me I felt like I need needed something to um keep me grounded and woman did that a lot for me MH gave you
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stability gave me stability I like Focus I don't like uh having too
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many options like that's what I realize now though like you know in a moment I'm
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just like oh [ __ ] is lit like you know I got all these girls telling me I'm handsome I look good y I like your
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outfits they sending pictures but at the end of the today is just like if I can't validate that for myself
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then I'm going always be chasing yeah I wanted to stop running wow all right I appreciate that
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Ferg is here man we share the same brains way cuz that's where I was going
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with it too um I think that's back on a live when you say that addicted to [ __ ]
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um trying to fight that yep and I think that's jogging in the dark I had to get
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my sight back yep and that's an addiction to us that I think a lot of men don't even realize can be an
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addiction or women as well for a while but when you say trying to fight that how have you fought that you also
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mentioned in other songs um in demons actually the algorithms and how that can
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be hell yeah absolutely you give me something to listen to but all of these thoughts like can you give us some maybe
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action items for those who can relate to help them ease calm eventually remove
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this addiction to love I got two phones where my other phone
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at that a a good sign man that ain't a good sign I hate that no that's a little one it's one of these it's one of these
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little iPhones so I got two phones uh one phone this is my soal phone and this
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is my phone uh that I call people I call sway yo what's popping sway I use this
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phone mhm but this phone right here only works on Wi-Fi M so I'm only social for I'm only on
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social media for a certain amount of time during the day okay I leave this phone in the house or like today I'll
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carry it with me because I'm doing press but like I only could use it on Wi-Fi so I'm not like scrolling through the
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street and I'm not like just looking at ass all day like you feel me on Instagram so I'm able to actually think
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things through you know what I'm saying yeah so that's that's one of the actions that I use just getting around people with like
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Minds that that share the same Concepts and want to have the same realities that I want to have mhm yeah that helps a lot
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because you are whoever you're around yeah my man Fergus here you so you happy
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with where you are right now in life oh um excited like I'm talking like I came up for air like I I'll be saying like um
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artists we we talk through our art so it's just like if you don't put out the art that people don't know what you
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talking about and you ain't saying nothing so it's super quiet so I've been quiet for four years yeah man imagine
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like not talking for four years yeah excuse me I go for a run in the street people be like yo F you ain't making
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music no more that [ __ ] kills me like that [ __ ] kills me it's like damn that
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[ __ ] is like yeah you know what and I love bowow
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right but I'mma use him as an example and it's not coming at him but I I remember like thinking it was too early
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for him to retire like he might have been tired from like cuz he was in a game for a long time like a kid and then
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when I seen him do 106 in park as a host I felt like damn they gonna count him
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out I never wanted to be counted out I never want people to look at me like Damn you ain't making music no more so
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imagine that feeling but then having a whole for real album that you created on
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tuck having a whole project that you working on that's about to come out like I just
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I couldn't wait but I I think this was the perfect time cuz it it allowed me to
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um recollect my thoughts it allowed me to be able to articulate my thoughts it it allowed me to be able to fix my
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business um it allowed me to to be able to buy a house to get my license yeah
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man I never had a car I got my driver's license and F God I am never riding in
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the passenger seat but Dam it I'm happy for you though you need that I got my driver's license two years ago wow I got
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my first car you got your first house my first house I own my house I own my car
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man that's amazing man yeah give it up for f congrats um will we ever see uh
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another mob Collective project you think or is everybody just yeah I feel like
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when everybody's old and just like yo what we was what we was all tripping for I think it's going to
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happen and when everybody want that check like yo let's just let's just get this bread man let's get this mob tour
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going right exactly it'll happen Ferg man it's not enough time in the day but I want to say I'm really proud of you
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brother you know as somebody who watch your rid and just as a fan man you know fans could be proud of the people that
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fans of you know especially when you deliver like you did this is this is a
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damn good project man appreciate it we didn't even scratch the surface yeah no yeah y'all gotta all sit with this
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separately and do your own thing and um this is not an album that is just like going out and then like all right I'm
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going to the next one like nah it's going to be like activations listening parties and more videos coming out on it
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because this is something this is this is Art like I had Sally who um did the orchestral Arrangements on all of the
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James Bond movies work throughout this album so I got a 10piece Orchestra and it's going to be like a small
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documentary that I'm putting together about the making of this project so stay tuned you painted the cover oh yeah I
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painted all of the covers yeah all the the album cover um all of the um so if you go to YouTube you'll get to see like
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all of the paintings that represent the songs so instead of like doing videos cuz I know videos is like kind of like a
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dying art um I just put my videos on
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canvas beautiful fer man give it up for f Ferg the new album is darald um it's
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available on all platforms bro I love you man love you good to see you Family come on man
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