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Episode 18 - Jermall Charlo | BRIDGEBIZNESS
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[Applause]
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[Music]
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you see his shades ladies and gentlemen
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you see his shades
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come on man he's boxing's gift the
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ladies love them the fellas want to be
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them
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you could try but you just can't see
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them give it up for jamal charlo ladies
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and gentlemen hey
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man what up brother how you come on man
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how you being champ man i can't complain
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if i complain i'm ungrateful
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there you go oh come on man i had
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somebody say that to me today anytime i
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feel negative i start thinking about the
0:48
things i'm grateful for
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and then i forget about the negativity
0:52
man how you doing jamal
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okay you doing great we we got bill
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horson
0:59
this is my partner big horse who does
1:00
this podcast with me
1:02
hey psp big artists what up
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what's up peace champ how you feeling
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horse go ahead talk to him champion he's
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got a few questions for you
1:16
you know what it is i want to know what
1:18
it is to be a charlotte what does the
1:20
charlos do for boxing what
1:21
what what what does the charlos mean in
1:23
boxing today well
1:26
it's like this like you know if you
1:28
appreciate it you appreciate it you know
1:30
i mean great work great work
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like you know [ __ ] i fight for a living
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you know it's a hard work
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it's your world is with lions only
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hey hey jamal turn your phone on
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sideways so we'll get a full picture
1:52
that way there you go there you go
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yeah lions only man who came up with
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that lions only i know that's a charlie
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thing but who first came up with it
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man i was watching the discovery channel
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right
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and uh my dad got mad at me because i
2:07
was on the way to the gym i was like man
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look at this man this is crazy was like
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attacking
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the elephant i love the elephants you
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know
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like damn uh
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that's us because they managed to cut
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this off man
2:26
i know that they're like they gained up
2:28
on them and started attacking them it's
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like they had to survive
2:31
and like pop they gotta survive like you
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gotta think like you know what i'm
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saying
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i like that man listen it's good to have
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you on
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it's good to know that you got a fight
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lined up in june
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um that we're all excited to see i i
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feel like there's been
2:51
other fights i wanted to see you in you
2:53
know what i mean
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um but that haven't happened but talk
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about this fight
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what do you feel about this fight coming
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up is this a prelude to a bigger event
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or you got to really buckle down and
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take this one seriously
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nah like honestly man like this dude
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that i'm going to fight
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he got 22 knockouts he got 22 wins
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so basically the only way he can
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al haymon the great you know and my team
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is awesome and i can't complain
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but at the same time i gotta i gotta
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question myself like
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hey like you gotta be on top of your
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eggs
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yeah so hey
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yeah you being the champ you being a
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champ why are you not fighting other
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champs are they ducking you in that
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division are the champs to duck you in
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that division why isn't other champs
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stepping up to the plate
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it's complicated this is the most
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complicated issue about every devil in
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my life
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um these guys don't want to fight me
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at this point at this point i don't know
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what to do
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i'm here to fight i'm here to be the
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best in the world
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i'm giving them everything i got there's
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nothing i can do
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to get these guys in the ring with me so
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i gotta i gotta do what i gotta do you
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know it's quite time so it's scheduled
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i'm scheduled to fight
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um montiel i'm fighting for houston
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in my backyard they made it where i
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can't complain
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you know i gotta take the fight as they
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come when do you become somebody's
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mandatory i think that's the only way
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that the fight is gonna have to fight
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you if you they become their next
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mandatory when do you become the
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mandatory
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person the only person the only person
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that can say anything about that
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is canelo what do you mean
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like it's complicated so
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i want to find canelo i want no i want
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to fight columbia
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i want to find somebody with a belt i
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want to fight somebody that's a champ i
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want to find somebody that's been
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through the things i've done
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but that's not happening at this moment
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so what i gotta do i gotta fight i gotta
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fight what's in front of you right i
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just wanna clear up the rumors and stuff
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like that that you you 160 and there's a
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lot of
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you know word play going back and forth
5:32
with you and david benavidez and i know
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that's a fight that
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everybody want to see on the internet
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y'all going back and forth but
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that's a fight that i don't see
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happening for the next two years year
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and a half and
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when you move up and stuff like that
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won't you clean up your weight division
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you know what i mean i know you want to
5:45
clean up your eight division because you
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happy there
5:47
do you feel like you're the boogie man
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of that weight division everybody's
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scared of you
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bro it's a question that everybody keep
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asking
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you know what i'm saying i don't fight
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david being to be there he had 168
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right he has no title
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he got no money he's not even worth it
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and i'm saying a lot to you sway like i
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i i break his face he'll a boy i'm 30
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like
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21 22 yeah
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really yeah because just because there's
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a young boy taking a
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chance at everything he got in the world
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you know what i'm saying this is like
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we got to play as smart now like it's
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not it's not that
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boxing is taking this toll or what
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fighters trying to pick they fight it
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ain't got nothing to do with that
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they got something to do with if you're
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the best in the world
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you gotta be the best in the world that
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don't mean you gotta get older this but
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not a happier
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and that's why i fight that's how i've
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been doing this
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i got the title in 15 14 15.
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and i'm saying i'm on top of the world
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like you should like man you know i'm
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living
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so you you so to talk about benavidez to
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you is just
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silly at this point unless what if he
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came down and y'all did a catch weight
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would that be a possibility
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i'll fight the [ __ ] out of him
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what i'm saying at what catch weight
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would you would you meet him at
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i'm at 60 you can't even make 68. that's
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what i'm saying that's not going to
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happen
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it's not going to happen okay he filled
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two drug tests off of cocaine and some
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others
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some other stuff and then he missed
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weight on another
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they talking to me about a person that
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has not even been professional
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okay so i mean it's a youtuber me
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let me tell you something you know what
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it is they see your value you know
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you're the go-to man you know you're the
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man that got the value they know they
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can get a bag off you so you you got to
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expect
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that you got to expect that
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okay so what about what about demetrius
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andreas he got a belt
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and he and he popping stuff what's up
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with that i mean you
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get that on right can i can i say one
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thing
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let's get it all around fighter all
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right
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he's somebody that's like me he he came
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from the trenches
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you know all respect to demetrius
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andrade
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and his whole team
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[Music]
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it's a different it's different when you
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make it to this
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level like you know like
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you gotta have a team around you and for
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some reason his team hasn't been doing
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things right
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my twin brother was supposed to fight
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the mission on drive
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154 pounds we both was sometime
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simultaneously world champions
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at the same time i'm a world champion
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with my brother my brother get this
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shot with him this [ __ ] pulled
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out the fight
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he pulled out a week of the fight like
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you go through a whole camp
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and then you pull out the fight you know
9:03
how much money wasted you almost you
9:05
know much time lost
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i'm not i'm not i know the past you know
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people grow make people make mistakes
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but it's like in a boxing world you
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cannot make a mistake
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because one loss can make the world
9:18
think that you not that god
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yeah it's different in boxing you know
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it's different
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you can train your whole life but you
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can make one mistake in boxing
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and it can cost you a whole career
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you know for somebody that didn't take
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that serious that made me wonder
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like is this dude even worthy enough to
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be in the
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in the in the ring with a king
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okay that man so see so he to you he
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ain't even paid enough dudes to even be
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in this conversation with you in the
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ring
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he don't have enough to offer show me
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something you want to fight for this
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title and show me something
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you it's fun you you say that um
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what horse you say this all the time man
10:02
horse always say boxing is a trip
10:04
because you could lose one time and then
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that could be your whole career
10:08
when yo when your brother lost to
10:10
harrison i remember that because you
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fought the same night
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um i don't think nobody expected that to
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happen in that fight
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you know i know you guys you two are
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lions you never feel
10:22
your brother don't even feel like he
10:23
lost that fight you're wrong
10:26
you know so but how how was the
10:28
psychological effect on him and then how
10:30
did it
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affect you for that one loss
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i honestly say like like all right so i
10:38
i went like round one to round like
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five maybe i think i think corporal
10:45
landed a straight left hand in round
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five mm-hmm
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it [ __ ] me up a little bit okay
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it made me come back to census like hey
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look
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stop trying to knock him out stop trying
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to
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trying to get your get back it's not
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gonna happen right now
11:07
it was just one of those things where i
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like came out of body
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i asked myself like oh you don't want to
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lose
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it ain't mean you this ain't this ain't
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true and i went back to my originality
11:19
and i started fighting
11:22
i got the victory i wanted to knock him
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out i damn near even knocked him out
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like four rounds later
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but i mean four rounds it's like
11:32
four months to somebody's life mm-hmm
11:35
you know i put my life on the line for
11:37
it so i'm really like i'm really out
11:38
here fighting
11:39
so like really want to lose i came back
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to the corner like
11:44
his ass up mm-hmm
11:50
honestly man that fight right there
11:52
changed my life
11:53
i didn't have to suffer a defeat for me
11:55
to understand what really was going on
11:59
so i took that as a learning lesson and
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i got it and i got the victory and i
12:02
made it happen
12:05
hmm i like that i see in
12:08
camp right now and sting started
12:10
circulating that uh mark breeland you
12:11
joined the camp
12:14
mark brilliant is a best friend of rhino
12:17
shows
12:18
okay best friend
12:21
okay yeah we link up we talk about
12:24
different things
12:25
i've been in i've been in so many camps
12:27
in mark bloom and i never said a word
12:29
but now that i talk about my brilliant
12:31
everybody think like oh he's drawing
12:33
forces
12:34
no i don't my brother is not my trainer
12:37
ronnie shields is my
12:38
trainer ronnie chills his best friends
12:40
with my bro my brother wanted to show me
12:42
something
12:42
i threw him out to use in the show he
12:45
came out my crib
12:47
and he worked out and he like everything
12:50
he saw he taught me what i needed to
12:51
know
12:52
and i'm going for the knockout but you
12:54
know what though that's adding to your
12:56
arsenal right there you know mark
12:57
breelan can show you something he had a
12:58
great jab you have a great jab so i know
13:00
he showed you one of two things that you
13:02
could work on or maybe like you like
13:03
you know good eyes but adding that onto
13:05
your camp but they show you
13:07
that everybody's watching what you do
13:09
you see that that everybody's watching
13:10
what you're doing everything
13:13
everything that you do you and your
13:14
brother so boxing definitely need the
13:16
charlo's in it i think that you know
13:18
as far as the way that y'all do the
13:19
business and the way that y'all running
13:20
things like i'm from new york right and
13:22
i see
13:23
um lions only how could i join that
13:25
promotion you know i wanna i wanna you
13:26
know i box i wanna be down with y'all
13:28
how could i get down with y'all i'm a
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lion i wanna i wanna join i wanna go up
13:31
in there how could they get down with
13:32
y'all
13:34
real recognized real man this is it's
13:37
way beyond
13:38
lines only it's way beyond the sport of
13:41
boxing
13:42
you know what i'm saying real recognized
13:43
really i helped so many people out in
13:46
the world
13:46
because i see their heart you know what
13:48
i mean they got the same heart as me
13:52
we can engage but
13:56
mark brigham he's from new york yeah
13:59
he's been on me since i was eight years
14:01
old
14:01
hey he been telling me before mark
14:04
really forgot beyonce wilde
14:07
i knew mark williams they told me
14:12
you're gonna be there you're gonna be
14:13
there he always believed in me that's
14:15
somebody that i look for for
14:17
like confidence so i got my confidence
14:21
measure out the way
14:24
yeah and and i talked to my brother on
14:26
the phone i took them all the time but
14:28
for him to come in the crib you know i
14:30
work out of my crib
14:36
come on man i already know champ tell me
14:38
about it man
14:39
i want to live like i want to live
14:41
vicariously through how you living man
14:42
talk to us champ
14:44
how many rooms you got i said like i got
14:47
so many rooms i can't count them
14:51
like a 14 bedroom house come on man
14:54
i like three kitchens i got like eight
14:56
bathrooms
14:57
i got two jacuzzi three jacuzzis indoor
15:00
basketball court
15:01
bowling alley come on man shooting range
15:06
you earned that right there champ you
15:08
fought for that you earned that nobody
15:10
gave that to you
15:18
that's what i did i waited i had been
15:20
making millions
15:22
you remember jacob walked up you ain't
15:23
making millions yet i was really
15:25
thinking in my head like
15:27
[ __ ] you know what i'm saying god damn
15:30
[ __ ]
15:30
you know what i'm saying i ain't really
15:32
like you know i
15:33
ain't on your neck yet but now i'm on
15:36
the esophagus i'm all the way deep
15:37
inside
15:38
mhm it's the difference
15:42
between chasing is the difference
15:44
between hunting
15:46
at that time i was chasing mm-hmm now
15:49
that's the hunt
15:53
i like that hey um if you got three
15:56
kitchens and 14 bedrooms me and horse
15:58
could come hang out at your house and we
15:59
ain't even got to see each other
16:01
i got my own podcast that's what i'm
16:04
talking about
16:06
let's get it baby guys let's get it baby
16:11
ain't bad at it man come on i like
16:13
hearing that jamal cause you know we've
16:14
known each other for years now you know
16:16
when we
16:17
i mean when i i mean i remember
16:21
yo that's way sweet sway you see my
16:23
knockout
16:24
sweet and you know i seen you i'm like
16:25
yo that's crazy
16:32
absolutely i don't know why you don't
16:34
need to train like you know so much
16:36
about boxing you should definitely get
16:37
in the gym
16:38
you know what come on me and horse might
16:40
we what we doing with bridge business
16:42
we're going to go on the road soon man
16:43
we want to go to everybody gym and see
16:45
what it's like
16:46
you know but you know i i trained when i
16:48
was a kid in elementary this kid punched
16:50
me in my nose jamal i was done i went
16:52
and ran track
16:54
[Laughter]
16:56
really
17:00
caught the bridge hey jamal did y'all
17:02
play any other sports besides just
17:04
boxing and stuff like that did y'all do
17:05
other things
17:06
that's crazy because we were just
17:07
talking about that man i was a
17:08
cornerback number 42
17:10
all my football career i played
17:13
cornerback i got an older brother
17:15
he's in a semi-pro right now and we all
17:17
play football we all play football
17:20
i play basketball my kids play
17:22
basketball now
17:24
you know i got a love for the sport
17:25
anything with a ball in and out minute
17:27
they brought it for real nice i like
17:30
that man
17:31
uh your kids like what being a father
17:34
man i'm sure that
17:35
that makes fighting a little different
17:37
it gives you a little more to fight for
17:39
right do you ever you you ever um
17:42
get uncomfortable with your kids
17:44
watching you in the ring because you
17:46
know your kids gotta endorse seeing
17:47
their father get hit
17:49
yeah well
17:52
yeah yeah you know i'm be honest with
17:56
you
17:56
it actually hurt my heart you know it's
18:00
probably the weirdest part of you know
18:02
my kids don't deserve to like
18:06
have a dad that live this lifestyle but
18:09
i gotta
18:09
i gotta suffer for them and i gotta make
18:13
i gotta make you know this transaction
18:16
real quick
18:17
you know about to always tell my kids
18:21
boxing is only a
18:22
certain part of my life daddy and i'm
18:24
gonna be and i have four boys i got one
18:26
daughter
18:26
and i'm gonna be there for you no matter
18:28
what no matter what
18:30
i train my ass off to protect myself
18:34
and to get these victories and to live
18:37
this lifestyle that we live
18:39
that's crazy so how would you feel
18:43
if you know the bus driver
18:46
i let my kids go to regular school
18:48
mm-hmm
18:49
so once they live like me i want them to
18:51
feel the way i feel
18:53
and i want them to experience the things
18:55
i don't want them to go to private
18:56
school
18:57
i tried private school my kids want to
18:59
learn i was getting more in trouble
19:01
i was getting reports every day is and i
19:03
put them back on regular school
19:04
and they start doing better but the bus
19:07
driver like why you been on fight
19:09
over here to chat but my kids got to be
19:12
the first seat on the bus
19:14
it's like my kids really want to send it
19:16
back my kids want to really bring
19:17
you better kids yeah but my kids got to
19:20
go through this
19:22
that's how they [ __ ] is they daddy [ __ ]
19:24
because i chose this book
19:26
you know i got to do anything i'm
19:28
telling them i'm a super athlete
19:30
mm-hmm don't say i'm dumping like i'm
19:32
like i'm taking them
19:34
[Music]
19:35
tell me
19:43
my kids play basketball my kids play
19:45
baseball
19:47
i'm i'm a superior athlete and i try to
19:50
instill that in
19:51
just to be great but sometimes
19:54
you know we get weary of the greatness
19:56
you know the world
19:57
changed the way we we make things seem
20:01
i don't let my kids ride in this car you
20:04
see the stars
20:05
yeah they got to wait on that
20:08
when they get to high school they have
20:11
so they don't get all the luxuries yet
20:14
nothing
20:15
no no no we live in this big ass life
20:18
but the chef got to make a proportional
20:20
meal for them
20:22
you know and they got to feel like hey
20:23
we got to eat my eggs that's what the
20:25
kids eat
20:26
and i said daddy watch movies on friday
20:28
with us that's what we're going to do
20:31
like i'm involved in my kid's life i
20:34
love that
20:35
the bus driver like why your daddy don't
20:38
fight canelo you
20:38
need to chat what you think i did
20:43
check them check them under there
20:46
i grab that yeti and we walk into the
20:48
bus
20:50
going to need a new bus driver today
20:52
[Music]
20:54
bus driver i need a new bus i walk up to
20:56
the bus
20:58
wait a now now minute
21:02
say one thing buzz off say one thing who
21:04
you want me to fight
21:05
he said canelo you got a new bus drop
21:12
no longer there
21:20
[Laughter]
21:25
man you like to play blackjack are you
21:26
good in blackjack are you lucky at it
21:33
man i donated like two hundred thousand
21:35
dollars off of blackjack
21:39
that ain't your game champion
21:49
i'm a poker player hey uh earl earl
21:52
spence jr played football too right
21:55
i don't know you from dallas you know
21:57
that was like five hours for music
21:59
yeah and uh me and earl been boys since
22:01
like
22:03
since like 13 years old like if my
22:05
brother beat her on the amateurs he
22:07
always be judged talking to me about
22:08
like
22:09
you know like but look we're grown now
22:11
we're not in the same way
22:13
you know things have changed but that's
22:16
my brother
22:17
that's my brother i remember giving him
22:19
my cup of my head getting
22:20
to use it for the rest of the cat for
22:22
the right like we we came from the
22:24
trenches you know what's that
22:25
yeah yeah are you and your brother
22:27
competitive against each other
22:30
he said i ain't talking to my brother
22:31
like too much no
22:34
why because you gotta stay away from
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each other
22:44
give me the science on that jamal you
22:45
don't by staying away from each other
22:47
y'all get stronger
22:49
how you ever seen two balls yeah
22:55
shout out to tourist season you know
22:57
what i'm saying
22:58
you put two bulls on them king and
23:00
they're in the pen with each other
23:01
they're the best two balls ever
23:04
but they're gonna fight they're gonna
23:07
hurt each other they don't they don't
23:09
they're gonna make it they're gonna
23:10
they they want each other they want to
23:11
be better than the next one you know i'm
23:12
saying i want to be better than my
23:14
brother
23:14
not that i'm saying i'm not better than
23:16
him but nothing he's better than me
23:19
but i just want to be where he at he
23:21
want to be where i'm at
23:23
and and in the love when it when it
23:26
comes down to the pain
23:27
we love each other differently you know
23:30
but that's my twin brother but we're
23:32
just two bulls
23:34
mm-hmm
23:39
it's not that we don't talk it's not
23:40
that we don't communicate it
23:42
you know he even got his opinion about
23:45
me fighting
23:46
he just don't fight been the videos well
23:48
why you don't fight him because he ain't
23:49
worked
23:50
well i think he is because everybody's
23:52
talking about the way you like people
23:53
that i talk i don't white people
23:54
i like statistics
23:58
yeah y'all different man i got i got a
24:01
you know we we got brothers
24:02
so we you know i know what that's like i
24:04
definitely know what that's like
24:06
yo brother i think your brother said
24:09
canelo was pound for pound um
24:13
best best in the game who you think is
24:16
i am okay
24:22
but if i was to call out somebody in his
24:23
weight division
24:25
and they're gonna make a big deal about
24:27
it you know
24:28
[Music]
24:29
so i gotta keep it quiet like i'm the
24:30
biggest blacklisted fighter in the game
24:32
right now
24:34
hey maybe that's the advantage right
24:35
there boy jump was all over again
24:40
i think he got him mad when his brother
24:41
caught somebody else pound for pound
24:43
that's the trick right there
24:44
i wasn't bad
24:47
they make you push harder you'll be like
24:49
okay i'm gonna show you i'm the great
24:50
i'm the powerful fan
24:52
i wasn't mad i wasn't like damn dog
24:56
if anybody gonna ride with my brother
24:57
gonna rob
25:16
[Music]
25:23
[Music]
25:29
somebody like jay prince was just from
25:31
houston but you know they was doing good
25:33
but
25:34
i was like bro this is the wave right
25:36
here and he actually came over
25:38
it was like thank you um
25:47
no matter what that's true charlo
25:49
brothers man absolutely man
25:51
as far as a family business as far as a
25:52
family business and stuff like that do
25:54
y'all got things invested for us like
25:55
you and your brother got a family
25:56
business together and stuff like that
25:58
no no no no not yet
26:02
not yet no they probably won't
26:07
he probably like make his lane
26:21
he got his own decision about things i
26:23
got my own decision
26:25
yeah but if one of y'all doubts if one
26:27
of y'all's down and out
26:29
the other one going to lend a hand
26:30
though right
26:33
come on now now come on do that on
26:36
bridge
26:50
by the business hey let me actually it
26:54
sounded like y'all let the money get in
26:55
between your brothers
26:56
and seeing brotherhood was it the money
26:58
well money
26:59
money money don't change you
27:02
but it definitely make you different and
27:05
sometimes we see differently
27:08
you know i'm saying when i had nothing i
27:10
never asked my brother for nothing
27:12
i got it so when i got it
27:16
you don't ask me for nothing you know i
27:18
got it
27:39
we both got the world titles together
27:42
matter of fact i had to before him
27:46
i've been here long enough i'm going to
27:47
go up to 60 you know
27:49
let you like make this lane on that one
27:51
i got to struggle with that weight
27:53
because you know they don't they don't
27:56
talk about your mail shallow
28:00
and your we different we really twins
28:03
but we different it's like two bulls
28:05
we're not mad at each other we're gonna
28:07
make each other better
28:09
yeah okay i get that
28:12
i get that it's kind of weird cause i
28:15
got i got two best friends
28:16
and quan and fine and brian and ryan
28:20
and they love each other i get a chance
28:24
to see that i'm like damn
28:26
i just put that like that
28:29
they don't got nothing what we got so
28:32
when you say money i'm like damn it
28:34
it ain't the money it's the
28:36
circumstances the situations that we're
28:38
in
28:40
i'm saying it's the season two though
28:43
you know what i mean like right now
28:45
might not be the season for that kind of
28:47
connection with y'all that might come
28:48
down the line
28:49
when boxing after boxing right right so
28:52
we got time right
28:53
yeah you know
28:57
true hey man maybe i still keep that
29:00
back in my head i still keep that in the
29:02
back of my head that's why the love for
29:04
me
29:04
has grown to show that like you know at
29:07
this time
29:09
he could be tripping he could be going
29:12
through i'm already married he
29:13
he went to my me he went to my wedding i
29:15
got married too
29:18
you know what i'm saying that's a whole
29:19
nother subject
29:22
you know what i'm saying i had a baby
29:24
had another baby really like you know i
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said
29:26
my mom was like that's her i said all
29:29
right that's her dad
29:30
she did what she had to do she she made
29:32
sure she locked that [ __ ] in
29:34
my brother was mad as hell but he still
29:36
came out to the yayo
29:37
he still came out to you know what i'm
29:39
saying be my best man
29:42
gotta do that even beat up one of my
29:44
roommates at the wedding
29:48
my brother was wrong like you know what
29:49
i'm saying like
29:51
we man it's a crazy nights out but
29:55
look it is what it is being a twin it's
29:58
not
29:58
like it's not like easy it's not like
30:01
hard
30:02
you know what i'm saying yeah man i want
30:05
i want to ask you too
30:06
like you brought up um being married you
30:08
know we don't hear that side of the
30:10
boxing game man we we hear about the
30:13
the wars that's in the ring that war
30:14
that's in the training camp
30:16
we see people walking out bloody they
30:18
get their checks
30:20
but you know and they train him for
30:21
months at a time but we don't hear about
30:23
what happens when they go home
30:25
the unsung hero to me a lot of times is
30:27
that woman that's waiting for him
30:29
or that partner that's waiting for him
30:31
how important is that
30:32
you think to to your career
30:40
[Music]
30:44
you know but you know i do it
31:03
now now if i mess this up it's my fault
31:07
if it don't work it's my fault trust me
31:09
a couple times
31:10
my fault and i just like damn you know
31:13
young rich famous getting a lot of
31:14
attention like you know what i'm saying
31:15
a little distracted
31:17
and she's still around with me like you
31:18
know what i'm saying like
31:20
together dog so like
31:24
a lot of people don't like to talk about
31:25
it but i'm open to it because it's part
31:27
of life right
31:28
yeah it's really talking about it
31:43
what was his native school heist in
31:44
hasten what's
31:59
you like it made me a winner some people
32:01
can't some people get distracted
32:03
by girls but for my anniversary i like
32:06
to take my girl to the strip club and
32:07
enjoy it at night
32:27
want to do she could ride in it with me
32:29
or she could ride in by herself and she
32:30
know she
32:31
she that that woman she my woman
32:35
she's the champ woman the champs woman
32:39
like that i like that that's a t-shirt
32:41
we might have to do
32:42
the champs woman t-shirts for bridge
32:44
business
32:47
next subject
32:50
[Laughter]
32:53
hey man hey jamal man i'm loving this
32:55
conversation brother uh
32:57
let me you know one of the things i've
32:59
been seeing boxing man let me let me go
33:01
back a step
33:02
because i was watching what horse was
33:04
talking about earlier
33:05
with logan and jake paul and floyd
33:08
mayweather in that press conference
33:09
their face off and
33:11
and i saw the kid jake paul who snatched
33:13
floyd's
33:14
hat off and then this melee started and
33:16
when floyd was throwing threats and man
33:18
i
33:19
i get it man it's for the money but i i
33:21
just man
33:23
it ain't my business he's his own man
33:25
but i don't like seeing floyd in that
33:27
kind of
33:27
i feel like it's beneath him what are
33:30
your thoughts so what's going on with
33:32
boxing right now bro
33:35
all right it's not boxing it's the
33:50
he's the goat
33:53
now you go that far to disrespect the
33:56
goat
33:57
you better be that man you know what i'm
33:59
saying
34:00
no way ain't no way floyd people don't
34:04
see that coming but i ain't gonna lie
34:06
it'd be times there'd be situations
34:08
where these fighters get out of campus
34:12
man i think honestly
34:16
it felt like it was all show you know i
34:19
think floyd did it for the month
34:21
but after he smacked the hat it's like
34:23
you smacked the goat hat off his head
34:26
everybody hey i ain't allowed to that
34:29
can never happen in the city of houston
34:31
that [ __ ] wouldn't even live hey
34:34
let me ask you this when you was
34:35
fighting um j rock williams that was
34:37
personal right there that was that was a
34:39
personal ass whooping right there right
34:44
one punch that i didn't mean because i
34:46
you know i see you going in with a lot
34:48
of fire but that right there looked like
34:49
a personal ass whooping right there like
34:51
you know what
34:51
it was built up it was a built up you
34:54
know fight that
34:55
that hey bro it was unbelievable
34:59
because you know he did the same thing
35:01
these youtubers doing
35:02
mm-hmm he just wasn't on youtube mm-hmm
35:06
you know what i'm saying mm-hmm now
35:09
floyd don't do what i did
35:11
uh it might be about the money
35:14
you know i could see why the fans were
35:16
questioning like why would floyd
35:17
let this [ __ ] smack his head on
35:20
his head
35:21
but he wouldn't even do that to them in
35:23
the nuts
35:26
you know this is like
35:30
some situations is different man he
35:32
really should have got broke up the
35:33
security should have broke him up soon
35:35
as he grabbed that hat the security had
35:36
all rights to break him up
35:45
mike said floyd ain't gonna let him they
35:47
said dude they asked mike do you think
35:49
um logan paul got a chance he said if
35:52
floyd
35:53
let him hit him he gotta allow you to
35:56
hit him there's no way you're going to
35:58
be able to hit him manny pacquiao could
35:59
really catch up to him
36:07
we're not talking about the floyd
36:09
mayweather fr pack yeah
36:11
okay everyone knew what he had coming
36:15
at this point we fighting uh we fighting
36:18
out
36:19
walgreens cashier
36:23
you know what i'm saying those those
36:26
logan pauses
36:27
all that look attention is at it's all
36:30
time
36:31
yes yes it don't matter what you want to
36:35
do
36:35
you can do it it don't matter if you not
36:38
into something you can do it you know
36:41
what i'm saying
36:41
it's a lot of stuff that i cannot do
36:44
it's not made for me
36:46
but if i say i i want to do it put on
36:48
youtube
36:49
they're gonna believe i did it
36:56
floyd mayweather knows that floyd
36:57
mayweather loves attention
36:59
why do you think he fought conor
37:00
mcgregor he made the most money he
37:02
started the shoot
37:05
what a ufc guy
37:08
now they turned with boxing they turned
37:10
me mm-hmm
37:12
these guys
37:16
jake paul not gonna last around i know
37:18
i'm not coming out in the first round
37:22
i'm not his brother out in the first
37:23
round
37:25
because they don't know how to plant
37:27
their feet they don't even know how to
37:28
move
37:29
away from a punch let alone throw a
37:32
pinch
37:33
you feel me yeah so floyd knows that
37:36
they on youtube they don't want to press
37:38
a button to click the mouse
37:41
press enter but that's the only thing
37:44
that hasn't changed
37:45
it's the keyboard hey champ but if floyd
37:48
is the best that ever did it he got the
37:50
biggest bag that every
37:51
that any box ever seen how could he let
37:54
a youtuber
37:54
with 18 million followers get underneath
37:56
his belt and get underneath his skin but
37:58
if canelo or somebody or somebody called
38:01
him out he ain't gonna fight him if spin
38:03
said yo come out of retirement and fight
38:04
me
38:05
if if t-bud was like yo come on let's
38:06
get it in here
38:08
my brother did it my brother got the wbc
38:10
got all the bells at 154. you see that i
38:12
want to fight
38:14
before i talk to floyd personally if i
38:17
walked up to floyd
38:19
inside a club with uh bill bill before
38:22
he was doing a birthday party
38:23
and i was like what's up boy he thought
38:25
i was my brother
38:27
he said and had like an hour
38:28
conversation about like bro
38:30
i'm not gonna fight y'all like bro i'm
38:32
retired like i ain't
38:34
what are y'all talking about you know
38:36
what i'm saying like i'm like man it's
38:38
my brother that
38:38
alright you know yeah he's coming back
38:41
he's only right that he got caught out
38:43
the goal like you know
38:44
and we still kick it i still i i face
38:47
our employee
38:47
to play dominoes on the phone
38:52
dude the dude is an older guy
38:56
the brain only works for so long i don't
38:58
care who you are
39:00
the brain only works for so long you're
39:02
only able to take so much punishment
39:05
he's not in north no trouble
39:08
bet your household
39:12
get them in never teach you anything
39:14
about the business behind the scene that
39:15
you that you learned
39:17
never okay i've
39:21
i wanted to sign with floyd i wanted
39:22
floyd to be my
39:24
uh pr gm whatever he wanted to be i gave
39:27
him the openness
39:28
we talk all the time he's just brothers
39:30
man
39:32
i learned from his career i learned from
39:34
his career i've never learned from him
39:36
as far as i'm teaching okay
39:39
what do you think of triller and what
39:41
they've been able to do
39:43
you know in the matches they put
39:45
together the views they've been able to
39:47
get is it
39:48
is there something to be said about the
39:49
entertainment value that they're doing
39:51
with boxing and performers and djs or
39:54
are you more of a you feel like it's a
39:56
place a time and place for those things
39:58
and boxing should be boxing
40:01
well like i said the tension is at
40:04
all times high you know
40:07
every running trailer understands that
40:11
and it's all about the views
40:14
it's all about the community the views
40:16
what we can get out of it
40:18
you know i fight on twitter if they want
40:20
we all know truly it's not like hbo
40:22
um we started off with all access
40:26
yeah we started out watching floyd you
40:29
know what i'm saying like
40:30
running in las vegas and you know
40:33
like come on man like honestly speaking
40:37
i like trilla i like what they're doing
40:39
for the fighters they're making boxing
40:41
even
40:41
bigger
40:50
it's high risk low award okay
40:53
we hear that a lot high risk low reward
40:56
hey do you think there's too many boxing
40:58
belts in boxing you think it's too many
40:59
belts in boxing
41:00
what do you think about the belts and
41:01
the makeup belts and stuff like that
41:03
what'd you think that'd do for boxers
41:06
they can make any vote they want to make
41:08
and we'll fight for it
41:09
we fight us but it's only
41:12
like four to four real bells that we
41:15
respect
41:16
you know and
41:20
man i don't get it
41:23
i don't get it i honestly think it
41:25
should be like a union
41:26
or something around boxing but boxers
41:29
have to take care of their own taxes
41:31
we take care of our own bills we take
41:32
care we don't have no one
41:34
promoting us we self-made everything we
41:37
do is in-house
41:39
you know what i'm saying we finance our
41:41
own self so
41:44
truly doing great to like give boxing
41:47
the aspect of like
41:48
you know who you really are
41:52
and i like the platform they're giving
41:54
us you know
41:55
oprah look at oprah she on right
41:58
yeah and she'll light drama oprah always
42:02
cleaning up the situation
42:05
she's got a little drama shows on there
42:06
too
42:09
she got some good ones too
42:12
real good
42:29
i like queen sugar that's on that's like
42:32
one of my favorite joints is queen sugar
42:35
made all his money off a rabbit he was
42:38
one of the hardest rappers ever
42:39
i was in the 8th grade 7th 8th grade i
42:42
was walking to the ring
42:43
i was an amateur i had no pro fights i
42:46
was
42:46
i was 50 boy you know what i'm saying
42:50
i couldn't even get in the club but i
42:51
was in the club trying to run on the
42:52
treadmill
42:56
i think i meant uh 50 cent is a good
42:59
example
42:59
too man like he i i i remember reading
43:02
something recently
43:04
um that he was he said he was moving to
43:06
texas
43:08
yeah yeah was that real did you hear
43:10
about that i motivated him i'm motivated
43:13
nice how sorry we talked because
43:17
because i'm into real estate
43:20
and i got mad for the state of houston
43:22
houston's like a
43:23
real big growing cities it's moving at
43:26
us
43:27
the rate the houston is moving it's
43:29
going to be like
43:30
new york city las vegas los angeles but
43:32
a lot of people don't
43:33
like you know graduate houston because
43:36
it's so deep in the south like it's
43:38
like right here by the water but if you
43:40
want the beach you got the beach if you
43:42
want the city about the city
43:43
you want you know we don't get no snow
43:46
here and there but it is pretty cold in
43:48
the winter
43:48
so like you can get every world and use
43:51
it and here's
43:52
and 50k in the crib and um shout out to
43:55
brunson because we we
43:56
locked down the deal i'm saying you see
43:59
bronson on my trunks you see bronson
44:00
everywhere
44:01
because you know i don't 50 like yo
44:04
i love it out here it's like you live in
44:08
los
44:08
angeles it's like you live in miami
44:10
together
44:13
and and i was like yo
44:16
let's get in the real estate together
44:19
like nah you keep boxing
44:29
y'all know everybody so we we linked up
44:32
you know what i'm saying
44:32
i already do fiddly with movies matter
44:34
of fact he's doing his
44:36
show here matter of fact he's gonna
44:38
probably use my big crib
44:42
oh man we gotta get to the crib man if
44:44
that crib looks so good that you
44:46
impressed 50 cent
44:47
i know we got to get to that crib man
44:50
some some amazing cribs we've seen his
44:53
houses so if your house
44:54
impressing him so you got 50 to move to
44:57
texas
44:58
that's dope you're part of the
44:59
motivation
45:02
hey we walking to the gym right now what
45:05
you listening to in the gym right now
45:06
when you're working out getting ready
45:07
for this fight when you training what
45:08
you listening to what you jamming out to
45:10
in the gym uh honestly now
45:15
man i'm listening
45:24
[Applause]
45:30
i knew you yeah you ain't go right now
45:33
hey hey
45:34
you know let me tell you who broner
45:36
wrapped on the broner spit bars
45:39
uh i feel like danny garcia dad spit
45:42
bars
45:43
um
45:55
guerrero's dad i think even spit bars on
45:57
it you ain't got bars for us come on
45:59
you'll be the first one
46:01
you'll be the first uh a boxer on bridge
46:04
business
46:04
i like i like our conversation i don't
46:06
want to ruin it
46:10
he said he's gonna do beats too he said
46:12
he got hurt
46:24
rap for me you know i i work in houston
46:27
everybody know
46:28
everybody know they could come to my
46:29
house i got a bigger studio i got a that
46:31
you know i'm legit with it i do music
46:34
all day what you work with like what do
46:37
you make beats with what program
46:40
man honestly i've been using machine
46:41
learning okay
46:43
logic i'm a logic head logic okay
46:47
yeah but i've been using machine and i
46:49
kind of like the flow flow of it they
46:51
got all their own keypads and things
46:52
like that
46:53
ableton is one of my favorite okay
46:55
ableton so
46:56
yo he he he's in there he's naming the
46:59
right [ __ ]
46:59
okay okay hey you sample at all
47:05
yo yo you know what jamal it's like
47:07
somebody coming up to you and one
47:12
i love chris brown if you talk to him
47:14
next time
47:16
next time you talk to him tell him i
47:18
love him i've known that man for a long
47:20
time
47:20
i was just talking to the jacksons like
47:22
marlon tito
47:24
jackie you know michael's brothers and
47:26
we were talking i told them that chris
47:28
brown is the closest thing to michael
47:30
to me and beyonce chris brown and
47:32
beyonce are the closest thing
47:34
to what i felt when i would see michael
47:36
perform and they love chris man tell
47:38
them i
47:39
please send my salute to that brethren
47:41
my best friend's man
47:43
i've been a studio one of my critique on
47:46
some certain things and certain people
47:48
and like listen to me like a brother i
47:50
listen to him like a brother
47:52
and um he's been around me and my twin
47:54
brother since like to start our career
47:56
he's came a couple of my knockouts he
47:58
went to the j-rock not gonna look in the
47:59
corner
48:00
mm-hmm can you see him in there you'll
48:03
see him in the corner right after i
48:04
knocked him out trying to pray like
48:05
what i told him you know what i'm saying
48:11
that's why i'm so legendary what did he
48:13
think of your beats though
48:29
hey did he like him well enough to sing
48:31
on
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he
48:46
that's my dog you know what i'm saying
48:48
like i don't
48:49
talk about it you know we we just say
48:51
we're the same people as a big tourist
48:53
we kind of like we like link up real
48:56
well
48:57
genuine you know and we do our thing
48:59
like
49:00
ohp want heartbeat mm-hmm no that's
49:04
that's art that's our that's our love
49:06
you know
49:07
one heartbeat
49:11
that's great out here
49:14
out here boxing what's chris what's
49:17
chris um i know he
49:18
you know put the gloves on probably
49:20
train what he looked like he seemed like
49:21
you know anybody that could dance that
49:22
game yeah i was sick
49:23
brown knocked out any artist i promise
49:26
if the dude moved away
49:28
what you think he'd do
49:49
that box i think so like i don't
49:52
i honestly like i haven't seen a boxer
49:54
like you know
49:55
size don't matter yeah they all fall
49:59
the same brown got knocked out power
50:02
and he got the switch of autumn and go
50:05
crazy like
50:06
he stopped [ __ ] like i promise you smart
50:09
with him before
50:10
let's see brown no i seen them boxed up
50:13
okay okay i've seen them slump some [ __ ]
50:22
oh man hey
50:25
let me ask this what's your first big
50:28
check that you got with your first big
50:29
bag that you got what's the first
50:30
purchase that you brought what's the
50:31
first thing you brought with your big
50:32
check that's your first big check that
50:34
you got
50:52
okay i still got it it's the car that i
50:56
got it's wrapped in like the tron
50:57
look cool nice
51:01
stick still got it put a body kit on it
51:05
change it up drop the white on white rim
51:07
oh my gosh
51:09
[Music]
51:10
candy like i'm the president
51:15
i like that white on white that would
51:18
think that
51:18
that candy wipe what kind of white is it
51:21
you already know
51:26
i like that come on you got hey you got
51:29
to do it right that's the one thing
51:30
about texas that reminds me
51:32
of showing the world like like bro i've
51:34
been lacking on the ground
51:36
i've been lacking on shauna because like
51:38
i get a lot of bad feedback too bro
51:41
and i ain't gonna lie to you for a lot
51:42
of part of my career i'm kind of like
51:44
damn that's trying to do it the right
51:45
way because you know like this tomorrow
51:46
i promise you know what i'm saying
51:48
31-0 twenty-two knockouts i thought
51:52
come on hey man put it on the ground
51:54
because the ground been helping a lot
51:58
so y'all gonna get a chance to start
51:59
seeing them more i'm about to
52:01
they logged in my encounters i told them
52:03
to drop they see when they ready
52:06
good people need to see it a lot of the
52:08
a lot of boxers are using the ground
52:10
to really raise their profile you know
52:12
brand themselves
52:23
[Applause]
52:31
yeah yeah man yo man jamal i love in
52:34
this convo but i gotta ask you this too
52:36
bro
52:37
um a couple questions we don't even talk
52:40
about triple g and i heard you talk
52:42
about this before like
52:44
to me that i think that would be a a
52:46
great
52:47
statement fight if you and triple g
52:50
jumped in the ring has his camp reached
52:52
out
52:52
or have y'all tried to make that fight
52:54
happen yeah we tried to make that fight
52:56
we tried to make the triple g fight i'm
52:58
honestly gonna tell you but you do not
53:00
want
53:00
no smoke with me at all
53:04
like i said in order to
53:07
i guess to clarify that high risk low
53:09
reward
53:10
yeah it's one of those things
53:14
jesus don't think i'm working he don't
53:17
think that it's worth
53:18
fighting me but i honestly can tell you
53:22
there's some people that i didn't [ __ ] i
53:24
didn't get the [ __ ] out of in trouble
53:25
she had a struggle with
53:27
so i could understand i could understand
53:29
like why he don't want to fight me
53:31
i'm saying i understand i did it and i'm
53:34
gonna
53:34
get it six one i'm like i'm at 160.
53:37
i'm i'm up there with you i'll take
53:38
wilder then i'm punching hard hard
53:45
if they give me triple g i i swear to
53:47
god i'm gonna be like i'm gonna pray
53:48
i'ma thank god
53:49
but if they don't [ __ ] i can't get i
53:52
can't complain
53:53
but i'm saying it's gonna come to a
53:54
point where you're going to become his
53:55
mandatory or what he'll have to vacate
53:57
the belt
53:58
because he's got to fight you you're
53:59
going to listen you're going to either
54:00
have to fight you have to walk
54:04
yeah before i get another
54:08
i got the wbc ain't that the most um
54:10
prestigious glow in the division
54:12
yes yes it is sooner or later right
54:16
that's what i'm saying
54:19
and then we never seen canelo fight for
54:21
this franchise
54:28
i'm about to change the logo to boxing
54:30
like the nba
54:33
this is going to be a jamal silhouette
54:36
i like that hey who you got uh
54:39
billy joe sanders and canelo some people
54:42
i see tyson fury saying he's gonna give
54:44
canelo a boxing lesson
54:46
you know i i saw uh amir khan say uh
54:52
listen billy joe sanders
54:56
might not be able to get away from her
54:59
but the dude can box i
55:03
he just stick he can move
55:08
hey i like billy joe's style because he
55:11
seems so
55:11
reckless but he's so intelligent at the
55:14
same time
55:16
so it's hard to say if he gonna do what
55:18
he what he say gonna do
55:20
who knows like honestly i think canelo
55:23
won
55:23
too much if canelo get in there and act
55:26
like
55:27
the only person i ever see the face
55:29
expression that i got from canelo
55:31
was the same special expression i got
55:33
when he bought mayweather
55:35
he made the ring size mayweather made
55:37
the weight division
55:39
they fought at 152 people don't know
55:41
that they fought at 152 not 54
55:43
but they still fought for the belt
55:45
mayweather made that happen
55:48
it's a lot of things that's not on
55:49
canelo's side at this point
55:51
the ring size the glove size the portion
55:54
that he's up against honestly
55:58
i just think that flight from the uk was
56:02
just too long and that's enough to make
56:06
billy joel enough like uncomfortable
56:09
i got i got canelo knocking him out like
56:11
seven rounds
56:13
seven rounds
56:28
a lot and he's going to turn it right
56:30
into that right hand
56:32
and i can see it happening because
56:33
that's the same shot i would hit his ass
56:34
with
56:36
oh i i even call a fight like this i say
56:40
canelo by knockout or sanders by
56:44
decision
56:45
if it go 12 i think that i think that
56:47
canelo might lose if he go 12.
56:49
i think 12 canelo wanted to go to him
56:52
like he's going he's going to lay him on
56:54
a cloth like i promise
56:56
sometime you chase it like that champ it
56:58
don't come you know what i mean when you
56:59
chase it
57:00
hello ashley a big ass dude small
57:04
short mexican style short little compact
57:09
you it's gonna take billy to actually
57:11
stick in there and fight him if not
57:13
he's gonna have to run the whole time
57:15
with the chances thing running right now
57:17
which is boxing actually sticking move
57:19
they think sticky move is losing
57:22
if you look at the latest fights and you
57:23
look at what's going on in the world
57:25
they want to see a knockout we need mike
57:27
tyson back that's him
57:28
mm-hmm that's him right there baby
57:34
come on champ hey man look man
57:37
with that said brother i want to thank
57:39
you for coming on bridge business this
57:40
might have been one of the most
57:42
exhilarating conversations we've had
57:44
you kept the 1 000 with us jamal and i
57:46
appreciate that
57:48
come on man i appreciate that i already
57:50
got i already put bets on you man so
57:52
you know i don't know what the odds are
57:54
but i want to thank you in advance
57:56
um for knocking that that kid out you
57:58
know god bless him i hope he be well
58:01
on your next fight coming up uh i'm
58:03
already placing the best so i know i'm
58:05
bringing the bag back home so i want to
58:06
thank you in advance
58:08
yes sir i salute to you hey
58:11
bro it's crazy because i even been on my
58:13
damn shelf
58:14
[Laughter]
58:18
hey man love you family i'm glad you're
58:21
doing well champ
58:22
and listen man put on the show come june
58:24
put that show on let them know what you
58:26
made of
58:26
it's the evidence to be in the ring june
58:29
19th
58:30
19th houston texas june 10th actually
58:34
june
58:37
yo keep being great champ keep being
58:39
great man keep pushing greatness man
58:40
keep pushing
58:42
me bro for real absolutely family i'm
58:45
looking forward to seeing you too jamal
58:47
we gonna get we gonna connect soon okay
58:49
facts baby
58:51
after the fight like right after the
58:53
fight matter of fact let's do it
58:54
let's do it bridge business baby bridge
58:56
business that's what's up
59:00
[Applause]
59:03
yo sway
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