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through this
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you can't have the righteous without the
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ratchet
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he told us that for years Tracy see
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that's right
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I've been hearing them say it since Real
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Talk came out I've been hearing them say
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it for a long time Tracy he even says
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his wife is half State half City Girl
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that's a live wife no offense or no
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respect
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have Saint have city girls I relate to
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that oh my God she's got a sister
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oh my gosh
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have seen half City girl but I'll call
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this man a Vanguard it's hard it's hard
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man I've had people speak to us we do
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good news Thursday and we usually curate
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a gospel record a spiritual record
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something that's uplifting and we talk
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about our faith and we Proclaim it loud
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and clear every single week yes doesn't
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matter to me what you believe
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um I believe in as long as I believe in
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what I believe in you know and even with
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that when you're just trying to do good
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and walk people into a light that's kind
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of equipped you and help you through
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your life you get a lot of resistance I
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mean you get a lot of resistance if you
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talk about a higher being if you talk
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about God if you talk about your faith
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why why does that bother folks so much
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if it ain't even something you prescribe
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to then cool go about your life but why
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does that bother you so much
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especially when you're in this culture
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we call hip-hop
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what started off as a tool of upliftment
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you know of unity of having fun of
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bringing people together who don't have
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representation right I say this all the
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time Tracy folks who felt
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disenfranchised and it was a way up
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not even a way out I didn't want to
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leave my neighborhood I just wanted to
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live a higher life on a higher quality a
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way up a way out not a way out that's
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why if you come to Harlem you come to
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New York you see me in the middle of
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Harlem if you go to Oakland you're going
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to see me all over Oakland the same
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places I grew up in it became a way up
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when this man back in 2004 think about
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the albums that were out in 2004. think
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about the rap game in 2004 what was the
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messaging what was the signaling you
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know what was the Imaging what was going
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on but he was saying real talk
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through Reach Records which he
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co-founded right but she co-founded so
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all of this talk about proprietorship
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and ownership we wouldn't have to
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complain so much about these platforms
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if we made our own
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so and so they're they're editing out my
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post
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that they suspended me I got suspended
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off of so-and-so's platform I can't even
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exist now I can't do nothing till I tag
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back in
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so much control right but if you have
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your own then you in control and so I
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respect this man over the years he came
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here he had to come up here and do a
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Five Fingers of Death just so y'all know
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he could rap better than you what time
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it is he could rap better than you look
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at all he's done when you listen to this
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album I'm going off right now LeCrae I'm
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sorry
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hey you speaking man when I listen to
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songs like Journey um
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and you hear this man's Journey when you
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listen to deconstruction come on
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sometimes you gotta peel it apart to
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build it back together again when you
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hear all of these songs citizens that's
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on this brand new album called
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Church Clothes four yeah
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when you hear spread the Ops you're
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gonna think you at a strip club but it's
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the messaging is different I want to
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welcome him back I want to open up the
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phone line citizens the enlightened one
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is here yeah the one and only Lecrae is
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back welcome back I'm home baby
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a real one and a good one yeah
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yeah y'all who's gonna tell you
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something man I'm a for real citizen too
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you know I mean I'm home all the way
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home I love it oh man I was so happy
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when I saw the artwork on church clothes
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four man looked like I've been through
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it what is that like if you see the
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artwork he's sitting in a room by
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himself yeah look like he's been
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scraping the walls with his fingernails
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probably talking to people that ain't
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there
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I've been doing that yeah you had your
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brains out you know that was crazy what
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would was that symbolic it was okay so
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if you if you follow the whole church
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clothes uh uh series you see church
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close one the best I had on the
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background is hanging up Church plus two
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the artwork is all over the floors trash
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everywhere church close three was the
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suit I got the suit on from three but
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four I'm everything's tatted up because
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I've been through hell you know what I'm
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saying it's like if you you know I've
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been through hell but I'm still here to
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give you what you need you know I mean I
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went through hell to give you you know
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what you need so that's really what the
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what the what the the theme was you went
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through hell I think when you
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work through the work yeah I won't even
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say the church because you know we
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discussed the church before yeah Church
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could be different things depending on
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what building you walk in we'll be
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having a long convo on that one but I
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feel you you feel me right I feel you
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um people don't think that you go
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through anything right and so when I
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hear this narrative like I want to say
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uh spread the Ops yeah uh no no no no
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when I hear protect
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I protect my piece spread the eyes for
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me all of it fear not oh oh yeah yeah
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yeah fear not yeah that's some that's
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right I came I saw I killed uh yeah I'm
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Savage I'm Savage say that line uh what
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I say I lie I'm I'm a killer I'm a sad I
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came I saw I killed I'm Savage yeah yeah
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right and then
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um you know a lie cheating and a killer
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yeah I never you know it's I mean the
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whole project I'm saying stuff like that
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yeah stuff like that folks don't believe
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you go through anything oh man yeah they
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bugging because because my relationship
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with God your relationship with God is
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not about perfection it's not about you
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being a perfect person it's actually the
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reality that you not and so because you
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not you need
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God to walk you through the the the the
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hard times and the hardship that we all
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experience on an everyday basis you know
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what I'm saying so that's for me I put I
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like to put some skin on the faith you
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know what I mean that's what I like to
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do I like to like Dr King put some skin
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on it it's like yeah we need to love
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each other okay that's cool to say yep
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but but get out there and really do it
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now yeah so for me I'm like life is hard
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but but I but I trust God so let me get
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out here and really trust them and
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instead of asking for God to give me a
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like Lord just take this out of my path
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I'll be like now give me feet for the
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past let me go ahead and run it I know
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it's gonna be hard wow okay well you
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when you um and that's what I appreciate
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about you because you don't give this
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image of um imperfection uh when I look
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at I said something earlier about what
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the way the culture started and where
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it's landed and I often have these
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conversations about what
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mute the music and how it's being
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utilized and where we are now when you
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see all the deaths and rap from people
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who come from rap culture but we're not
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blaming it strictly on the music but
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we've seen a lot of rappers die yeah
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we're listening to a lot of music that
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has a lot of low vibration messaging in
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it Hey listen if somebody has a problem
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with me saying it hey that's fine it is
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what it is yeah it's low vibration right
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right right
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um do you feel like the culture is on
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its is being attacked is there you know
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me and my brother talk about this
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constant struggle between good and evil
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do you believe in that concept of Good
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and Evil and do you feel like the
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culture is being attacked oh yeah we
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always at War I feel like good and evil
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is always a battle you know what I'm
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saying we always at War and but you know
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the old old heads would always say you
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know if you got two dogs and and you
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know both of them is in a fight which
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one is going to win the good one that
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one and it's whatever one you feed the
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most you know what I'm saying whatever
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dog you feed the most is going to win
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that battle so if you're feeding the
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evil more then the Evil's going out
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you're feeding the good more the goods
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going out and I think I think that's
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what we're seeing in culture right now
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it's like man we keep putting money in
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that slot machine and they keep coming
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back yeah you're gonna keep winning on
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that on the wrong side of the tracks but
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if we start feeding into the higher
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vibration we start feeding into the to
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what's good what's true what's pure then
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we're gonna receive that back it's all
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uh it's planting seeds man it's plant
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seeds so were you around artists
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who don't wrap around about the same
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things you rap about yeah do a lot of
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them come to you on the side and go man
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I know we don't do the same thing man I
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wish I could rap more about what you
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talking about but my audience have you
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ever had that oh yeah all the time what
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do they say uh I mean you know someone
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be like man I really I'm trying to
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transition I'm trying to change like
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what how do you just get all the way out
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there and do it right you know what I'm
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saying how what do I gotta do to just do
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it and my thing is is like you do it
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every day when you when you talk about
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you know taking the life of your brother
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you do it every day you put yourself out
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there and you say some some off the wall
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type stuff so if you really believe it
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to me to me like
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what I do is the most gangster thing
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there is because I really stand on what
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I'm talking about like I'm okay with
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admitting I'm not perfect I'm okay with
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admitting I want to see change and you
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know what I'm saying it's like and and
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and and it's like people respect that
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they respect that you like stand on what
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you believe in and you're not afraid to
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say it so again I'm like man if we can
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talk about all this crazy stuff and
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music which I grew up on and some of it
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is actual reflection of our community
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and our environment so I ain't wrong I
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ain't mad at that if it's an actual
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reflection but at the same time let's
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not let people profit off of our pain
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you know what I'm saying we not
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benefited from it and we're not getting
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healed from it like that's crazy to me
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yeah that's crazy man Lecrae is here the
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new album is church closed for I think
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that so much of what can make a low
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vibrational song appealing is there's
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many elements because there's the actual
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Harmony the production you know value of
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it that could be very alluring it can be
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the flow that's very alluring and then a
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lot of time people may not even know the
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words that they're reciting yeah yeah
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you know because they're just so hooked
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to the size of it and so with that in
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mind do you ever take the time to be
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like okay what are the sounds that are
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really popular right now what are the
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flows that are the stickiest right now
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and how can I utilize that in my craft
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so that people now don't even really you
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know it's kind of like the honey with
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the medicine yeah you got to I think you
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got to as an artist first and foremost
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like if I'm if I'm Picasso or whoever I
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am I'm looking at what the contemporary
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artists are doing and not just sticking
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with what I've always done like I've as
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you keep painting and doing your art you
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gonna naturally get better at it but if
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you stay in the one little space that
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you talented in and you don't expand and
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explore you're not gonna get good at all
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the other things if LeBron never learned
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a Euro Step when the Euro Step came in
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then you know all they're going to be
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doing is the same stuff that he was
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doing when he came into the league so
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you got to keep expanding your
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repertoire so I'm always learning and
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listening to what's going on you know I
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got kids too so I'm like you know my son
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he was on NBA young boy and I'm like
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what do you like about him right you
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know what I'm saying like like this
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helped me understand the ecosystem in
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the world that that you you know and I'm
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like oh you like the authenticity you
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like the you know what I'm saying so it
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may not even be the flow patterns it may
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just be like the authenticity and so and
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I'm like all right so part of it it says
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what's my responsibility to give
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authenticity but then to teach with it
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so that they can pull something away you
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know what I mean yeah well you
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approached well Tracy was there a song
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on the project that made you think of
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that question
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um
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specifically when it comes to spread the
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Ops oh yeah yeah spread the Ops yeah oh
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yeah when you hear spread the Ops that
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feel like I'm in the club yeah right
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after Amigo's record as it should right
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it Blends in seamlessly with other songs
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out now and why not was that the
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objective yeah I mean but why not like
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that's what I'm saying like
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it's hip-hop you know what I mean like
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it I come like my uncles come from the
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the 80s and they put me on everything
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80s moving forward okay so I grew up on
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hip hop everything from from NWA to
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Souls of Mischief to uh to you know uh
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shoot jru to damage it I like it like I
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grew up on hip hop
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yeah I mean so I'm still a fan of
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hip-hop so I'm still going to check out
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what's Lil Durk doing what's the like
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for me it's about being authentic to who
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I am I'm not even I'm not trying to be
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nothing I'm being who I am this is what
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raised me you know what I mean so it's
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gonna come out naturally it's not like
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I'm like so so for me it's like yeah it
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should play in the club then why not
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spread the Ops Lecrae is here
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888-742-3345 spread the Ops Out
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Who Your Ops demons or demons
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those are some of them
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you know this I have plenty of them as a
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matter of fact some plenty of demons
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some of some some of my apps are sitting
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in pews yeah
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he's waiting you know what I'm saying
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yeah man uh Lecrae is here we're talking
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about church clothes four what a
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beautiful conversation we're having
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right now I miss you man man and vice
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versa man I love y'all yeah we love you
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too when I met you you didn't have a
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Grammy
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me and uh Lecrae actually went to the
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same college that we were talking about
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it outside in the hallway we both went
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to the University of North Texas and we
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were joking about the uh the music it's
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actually a big music school a lot of
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people may not know that but it's
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actually pretty uh famous for the music
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department and we were talking about how
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uh once you find out that there's a
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music department there's a lab where you
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can go in and like work on production
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make beats and so it's very great for
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people who want to be artists and want
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to learn the ins and outs of production
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and putting songs together arranging
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tracks and all that stuff mixing and
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mastering how important was it to you to
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have access to those kind of programs
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you music departments and things like
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that whereas now they're trying to make
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a push to have more music programs more
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art programs in schools that changed my
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life the music lab now mind you I didn't
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go to class I skipped a lot of class
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making making beats and music lab but
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it gave me the direction that I needed
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to move in artistically like I knew that
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this was my the way I needed to move
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because because I was on a full
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scholarship a lot of people don't know
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that I had a full scholarship um for
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theater you know I mean in high school
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or college College oh wow yeah I had a
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full theater scholarship University you
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know Texas and low-key I just went in
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there and I didn't know nothing about I
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really didn't understand it like that
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like that they did they was just like
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you can audition and I was like what I
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gotta do just act so that you know
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raising the sun I did a little little
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thing from raising the sun it's like oh
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man this guy's phenomenal he's getting
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the full scholarship I had a full ride
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but I was in that music lab all the time
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and I was like you messed it up I was
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like this ain't I'm this is where I'm
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going the lady the campus nurse matter
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of fact the campus nurse told me she
15:35
said baby Diddy ain't looking for your
15:38
degree and I was like dang oh my God now
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now I'm not telling you don't go to
15:43
college but I'm just saying in in this
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space in this industry you know what I'm
15:48
saying like that does not necessarily
15:49
have to be the traditional route you
15:51
take in order to make it into the music
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you mean Diddy's not gonna ask you would
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you get a degree in it
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I didn't I did not the nurse told me
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that the nurse told me you know what I'm
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saying so Teddy ain't going did you have
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the same nurse DB you remember that
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nurse no I just didn't go to class
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how do you need that bit of uh
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information okay Carl's on the line from
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San Diego the new album there you go the
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new mixtape is church clothes for make
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sure you get that it's out now Carl go
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ahead what up Carl what's up family how
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y'all doing out there what's up Carl
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hey question hey so my nephew Cannon I
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mean y'all you've been knowing Canada
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for a long time my question is this what
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does it take for you guys like you can
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embizzle Derek mining all you guys to
16:34
get out and I don't say make Christian I
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don't know if I'm using terms correctly
16:38
make Christian rap more out there like
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if these kids can be about their heads
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to uh
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um uh all these this rap this Mumble rap
16:47
going on why can't they listen to
16:48
hip-hop music is it because the Avenues
16:50
are not open to you guys and the
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platform you got the the you know the
16:54
status that you're at you can't make
16:55
that happen oh you want me to be real
16:57
can I be real all right I'll be real
16:59
with you my guy so end of the day if you
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want to make a record if you want to
17:04
make a record about killing animals
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they're not gonna play that they're not
17:07
gonna push that you want to make a
17:08
record about uh you know raping women
17:11
they not gonna play that but you want to
17:13
make a record about killing your own
17:14
people or selling drugs to them funny
17:16
they'll let us play that you want to
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talk about your faith they like nah we
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not trying to that's why I love it up
17:21
here as a citizen on the morning show
17:24
swaying in the morning because they play
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my music they'll play our music so a lot
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of it is is based off of what these
17:30
labels they they invested in in a lot of
17:33
the low vibrations and because they
17:35
invested in that they want that to play
17:36
when you start talking about change and
17:38
impact and impacting your community and
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seeing them transform and so on and so
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forth A lot of times that does not get
17:43
the push and and just like anything else
17:46
when kids get used to eating candy they
17:48
don't want no good food you know what
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I'm saying so if we keep pushing candy
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on them they're not gonna want a steak
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they're not gonna want nothing good to
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them so so honestly it ain't about us we
17:56
doing our job you know can embizzle at
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myself we doing our job but it comes
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down to you know uh the support of
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Industry comes down to a lot of
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different organizations and different
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things and people like yourself on the
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Grassroots level just spreading the word
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and telling every you know telling
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everybody music Carl quit complaining
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you're a citizen but also Carl this
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makes me think Lecrae the impact of I'm
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coming in hot with Andy many years
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exactly speak on because that was
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tremendous yeah 2020 2021 yeah a lot of
18:27
times too you just gotta realize man
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like like coming in hot was was a viral
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it's the most viral song I've ever had
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you know me and Andy and it was on
18:35
everybody's Tick Tock Kim Kardashian
18:36
everybody was posting it a lot of that
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has to do with man you creating a
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soundtrack to people's lives so when you
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play a soundtrack people's lives they're
18:42
gonna rock with it and I felt like that
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was where people were at the time you
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know what I'm saying coming in hot yeah
18:48
but y'all did something different on it
18:49
too though man I mean you know if you
18:52
pay attention there's some stuff in
18:53
there some stuff in there
18:55
um Anthony's on the line from New York
18:57
Anthony go ahead what up Aunt
18:59
good morning family how we doing great
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what's your question
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my question for Lecrae is what was your
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creative process during your album
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anomaly because that's one of my
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favorite albums of yours yeah fantastic
19:12
you know anomaly was me
19:14
um so you gotta remember I came I I
19:17
didn't become a a follower of Christ
19:19
until I was like in my like late teens
19:22
early 20s so I grew up hearing all these
19:25
classic hip-hop albums and I was like
19:28
man everybody wants me to make like
19:29
choir music or become the next Kirk
19:31
Franklin Shout out to Kirk that's my guy
19:33
but that's not the lane I wanted to run
19:35
in and so anomaly was me trying to
19:37
figure out how I can just make a dope
19:39
hip-hop album like I'll listen to you
19:42
know Aquemini or the miseducation Lauren
19:44
Hill and I was like these are two
19:46
classic pieces of work how do I combine
19:49
that and say what I want to say and I
19:50
think that was a lot of the creative
19:52
process uh thank you for your call I'm
19:55
gonna take it one more these lines are
19:56
lit up so by the way hit them up
19:57
directly what's your social justice just
20:00
at Lecrae l e c r a e follow me I'll
20:02
take you somewhere come on now there it
20:04
is Jonah's on the line he's all the way
20:05
in South Carolina what up Jonah wow what
20:07
up Joe what up Jonah hey what's up
20:10
what's up Craig what's up man it's
20:11
always a treat when players meet
20:13
[Laughter]
20:15
I just wanted to I want to start Man by
20:17
just saying thank you bro because I had
20:19
a friend man we've been friends for for
20:21
years but we ain't talking about three
20:22
years and uh we used to listen to all
20:24
the church because we listened to one
20:25
two and three together this one came out
20:28
I mean we've had three albums since then
20:29
I was able to message him I said bro I
20:31
didn't think I would ever see this and
20:33
he said bro me neither and we called
20:34
each other to listen to the tracks
20:35
together man so I just really appreciate
20:37
all that you're doing bringing people
20:38
together they had a listening party my
20:40
dog Carolina
20:43
yeah we did my question is um man when
20:47
sway was talking earlier about journey
20:48
and deconstruction man those those songs
20:49
hit deep man and I really think what you
20:52
did on those songs is you laid it out
20:53
man I'm talking you said oh man you said
20:56
I'm just mad or I'm just Adams ain't no
20:58
even ain't no Adam where does Andy's let
21:00
me at him and I was like oh my gosh like
21:02
crazy laying it out what's next for you
21:05
like you've laid it out now like what
21:07
like what's your next step like what can
21:08
we be expecting from Craig coming
21:09
forward
21:10
man just trying to boss up and and get
21:13
these younger artists popping you know
21:14
what I'm saying I'm doing my thing as an
21:16
artist as well but just trying to get
21:17
these younger artists pop and shout out
21:18
to 1K Feud shout out to what up RG shout
21:21
out to you know Andy Mineo he a veteran
21:23
but you know he still get it getting it
21:24
popping one day Hovey you know shout out
21:27
to all the youngest man limo Blaze the
21:29
newest artist we just signed straight
21:30
from Nigeria afrobeat man so you know I
21:33
mean we just I'm sure
21:39
Blaze
21:43
that leave my album goes hard it's crazy
21:46
it's crazy you got an ill ass man
21:51
yo that's about to be my AKA
21:55
I'm Swiggity AKA limo Blaze
21:59
[Applause]
22:00
sauce
22:03
we family we ain't met yet but we family
22:06
for sure thanks for your call Jonah I'm
22:08
glad you got the mixtape church clothes
22:09
for and since you brought update
22:11
construction let's take a listen to that
22:12
yes come back and have some fun there we
22:15
go
22:18
spray
22:20
DJ Mouse Steve wanted me
22:24
well before I jump into that that song
22:28
was a testimony to me I I felt like he
22:30
was in the confession Booth yeah not
22:32
just the mic Booth right there that was
22:34
a very powerful song uh Christians got
22:38
you thinking wondering if there's even a
22:40
God yeah you know Christians are
22:42
interesting
22:43
facts questions the facts are
22:46
interesting yeah say what you will about
22:48
me I grew up in
22:50
Pilgrim's Rest Baptist Church in in
22:53
Oakland California say which you will my
22:56
auntie maybe read the Bible twice in
22:58
elementary I didn't understand it but
23:01
that's right I tried I I got better each
23:03
time you read it but you know you got
23:05
these folks who claim Christianity
23:09
um in these political parties the
23:12
religious parties the political parties
23:13
it's Christian nationalism all of this
23:16
yeah yeah yeah what is that and what is
23:18
I don't feel like you know it's it
23:20
seemed like a very discriminatory group
23:22
of individuals yeah that um
23:26
um and from the things I've seen yeah
23:28
this is a blanket statement for sure you
23:31
know but the idea of mixing your
23:33
politics with your religion and vice
23:36
versa making interpreted to make it work
23:38
for you but not for everyone what are
23:41
your thoughts on Christian nationalism I
23:43
don't rock with it
23:44
um I mean first of all you talking about
23:48
um if you're a Christian you're supposed
23:49
to care about the kingdom the kingdom is
23:51
made up of all people from all walks of
23:53
life all national nationalities
23:57
ethnicities and you building your Empire
23:59
instead of building a kingdom you know
24:02
what I'm saying so the nationalism
24:03
focuses on this Empire and not the
24:05
ultimate Kingdom you know I mean because
24:07
Nations crumble Rome crumbled you know
24:10
Nations crumble but but but people you
24:13
know go on and on and if you don't care
24:15
about people like and you know we love
24:17
our politics more than our people often
24:19
times so
24:20
you to me you can't really be serious
24:23
about loving your neighbor as yourself
24:26
but then you so consumed with your
24:28
nationalism that it ostracizes
24:31
disenfranchised people you know what I'm
24:33
saying and that I just can't rock with
24:34
it Lecrae is here yeah that's what I
24:37
thought about when I was listening to
24:38
this song I'm gonna take one more caller
24:41
somebody said they saw you uh Cedric in
24:43
New Orleans said he saw you before you
24:45
won a Grammy is that true Cedric yes sir
24:48
how you doing okay what's up man what's
24:50
going on Seth hey how you doing man hey
24:52
I just wanted to tell you um in like
24:55
2015 you you performed at the Barry
24:58
Center in Houston I don't know if you
25:00
remember that oh yeah I remember
25:02
I kind of walked in your locker room and
25:04
your equipment manager or somebody went
25:06
off on me but you didn't say anything I
25:08
just I just remember that and I remember
25:11
saying it with you was cool I didn't
25:14
talk to you in anything like that that
25:16
they didn't want us talking to anybody
25:18
because it would get fired but I thought
25:20
that was those man and then like the
25:22
next week or something people you uh won
25:23
your Grammy I was like yeah I'll
25:25
probably help them win that Grammy yeah
25:26
yeah let's do equating him sneaking in
25:29
my green room to be winning I saw you
25:33
won bro it wasn't for Sam's presence
25:35
there said thank you man all right
25:37
hey Lecrae didn't get to thank you on
25:40
stage go ahead and thank him now man I
25:42
would like to thank my man said for uh
25:44
you know violating all the laws and the
25:46
codes of the land in order for me to be
25:48
where I'm at today
25:51
brother uh Mount ski wanted to know uh
25:54
about this West Coast tape coming up DJ
25:57
moski what's up man hey yeah listen a
26:00
lot of people don't know you know what
26:01
I'm saying the West Coast really did
26:03
raise me you know Houston is my roots
26:05
Texas is my roots but then I I spent so
26:07
much time in in uh Southern California
26:09
as a kid so that really shaped me so I
26:12
got to put on for the West Coast man so
26:14
the tape is you know it's on the way but
26:15
but but musky I need you to secure DJ
26:18
Quick and I need you to do that okay we
26:20
need a quick on the production me and
26:22
moski did something years ago oh is that
26:25
right he'll tell you about it all right
26:26
all right well you know that's the
26:28
family we sat on the phone he actually
26:30
did a guest spot when we when we were in
26:32
L.A a couple a couple months back he
26:34
came up and did a guest spot and then
26:35
later on that day we sat on the phone
26:37
for about two hours brother he one of
26:39
the best oh he a real one oh my God he's
26:41
a real one people know him on the ones
26:43
and twos and he wanted the best to do it
26:44
you know but but he a real one that's I
26:46
count him as like when I go to La that's
26:48
like my brother so you know it's only a
26:50
handful of people in L.A that I really
26:52
link with one of them man meowski and a
26:54
couple others that's it yeah you know
26:56
you're a real one too I knew it back in
26:58
2013 I mean when you first came on the
27:00
show and and then you came back in 2014
27:03
and you did it again you did the five
27:05
fingers and then remember you came back
27:07
in 2017 and you you did it again and you
27:10
keep coming back and you know I just
27:12
start to wonder man you know when you
27:14
say a real one with a real one tree look
27:16
like you know what a real one really do
27:18
when you say real when you talking about
27:20
the world of him seeing what a real MC
27:22
truly does you want me to rap when they
27:24
step up to the mic I don't know if I can
27:27
still know how to do this right come on
27:29
you know what you was coming
27:30
three people your dudes what's your
27:33
guy's name in the group shout out to
27:34
flex Flex Ward an outfit cause he knew
27:37
where he was coming today Flex get in
27:39
the camera Flex
27:41
yeah let them see what you rocking flat
27:43
he too flat and not be seen man hey hey
27:47
Real Talk Flex started as an intern at
27:50
reach graduated to be my assistant then
27:52
graduated to be my general manager you
27:54
know what I'm saying we we we run it up
27:56
in here
27:58
respect I said Flex man I looked at him
28:01
it's looked at the way he was dressed I
28:03
said what's going on man
28:09
fly if y'all come up here put the right
28:12
clothes on
28:13
come up here like you're going to the
28:15
honeycomb hangout you coming up here
28:17
with cameras on there's been Legends in
28:20
these chairs yes icons have been in
28:22
these chairs they're not just coming up
28:25
the shade four or five they're not just
28:27
coming up to Sirius XM they not just
28:30
coming up this way in the morning they
28:33
coming up to the Valley of the hyena
28:38
foreign
28:39
[Applause]
28:53
[Music]
29:03
I'm standing on a rap in the ocean
29:05
waving a flame like look at me I'm
29:07
friends with Kendrick I'm not a lame
29:09
look truthfully they'll never let me get
29:11
in the major misconception is that I'm
29:13
supposed to fit in and we got any tribe
29:15
we got holy smoke trust the Holy Ghost
29:17
you'll need the industry to know you if
29:19
you know you don't look before the music
29:20
I was riding around in my mother's whip
29:22
now the Tesla doors rise up like the
29:24
mothership Mind of a militant
29:26
abolitionist citizen militant as an
29:28
immigrant teaching people the infinite
29:30
Yeshua yes I'm serious just in case you
29:32
was curious white pants ain't have City
29:34
girl on period don't need a Reformation
29:36
my people was never Catholic hit a
29:39
butter my mama couldn't be Baptist they
29:41
don't even make a category for my
29:43
allegory raise all of your kids now I'm
29:45
coming for my alimony married to the
29:47
streets they don't recognize the
29:48
matrimony missionary since the honeymoon
29:50
you know it's mandatory 116 of My Flesh
29:53
I bleed different kids raised on gospel
29:55
rap I breathe different New York Times
29:57
best-selling author I read different
29:59
drink the blood they need to flesh my
30:01
greed difference
30:03
[Music]
30:10
[Applause]
30:26
[Applause]
30:38
on the ground
30:40
it's something to be said man it's
30:42
something to be said about consistency
30:44
we do this man Michael Jordan was never
30:47
whack
30:48
[Laughter]
30:51
Michael Jordan from the time we saw him
30:53
in the NBA was never whack and from the
30:57
time we heard Lecrae rap he's never been
31:00
whacked get your game up it's a two two
31:03
gram how many
31:04
how many a couple of them two times
31:06
Grammy Award with an artist get your
31:08
game up he got his own record label get
31:10
your game up hey man he goes on his own
31:14
tours get your game up best-selling
31:17
author get your game up and he was
31:19
excited yes about breaking that mic
31:21
today cause he's a truth emcee
31:26
oh this is the place to be baby oh man
31:29
yo that [ __ ] was so perfect
31:37
not a little something different you
31:39
know what I'm saying just a little
31:40
something for y'all man I love y'all man
31:41
I love you too brother you just really
31:43
uh set this week off really right and
31:45
congratulations on church clothes for we
31:48
gotta come see this this is the year we
31:50
come see you perform come on absolutely
31:51
yeah tour going down this this uh spring
31:54
so stay tuned we putting it all together
31:56
but uh we'll be out on the road to
31:57
Spring Church close to her for sure all
31:59
right thank you man yeah all right
32:00
Lecrae once again he did it man shout
32:01
out to your whole team man who's your
32:03
team we got a shout out to my man Marcus
32:05
the CMO Of Reach Records
32:08
and my guy Flex over here you know what
32:10
I'm saying uh you know videographer
32:13
what's her name yeah yeah uh uh she she
32:15
knew today we just picked her up today
32:16
on the street okay you know what I'm
32:18
saying but she cold with it I've seen
32:19
her on the street today she had a cup in
32:21
her hand she was asking for change and I
32:22
was like yo you know how to work a
32:23
camera she's like for sure I said well
32:24
we gonna pay you then you know what I'm
32:25
saying cool cool yeah I mean what's your
32:27
name though
32:34
[Laughter]
32:49
for coming on the show today
32:51
no time for fear yes or no fear of time
33:00
everything is really DB Twitter
33:03
Instagram and YouTube yes TV you keep
33:05
that black star album on the luminary
33:07
um Network which is the same uh that the
33:09
podcast Network yeah um absolutely torch
33:12
how can they reach you at torch engine
33:14
that's torch ing to and LeCrae thank you
33:16
again anything you want to say in
33:17
closing hey man church close four is out
33:19
right now you know what I'm saying also
33:21
that black star project is crazy too I
33:22
share the love you know what I'm saying
33:24
so make sure you go share the love as
33:25
well there you go Tracy G yo citizens
33:27
Twitter Instagram you already know but
33:29
I'll repeat it it's Tracy g i t s Tara
33:32
acyg say what up I'm at real sway across
33:34
the board probably go check out black
33:35
star tonight I'll text you Lecrae in
33:37
case you're up out and about okay all
33:39
right that'll be good we're gonna have a
33:40
hip-hop experience okay I'll let you
33:42
know either way all right I'm at real
33:44
sway across the board you can see all
33:45
these interviews he put up the showly
33:47
freestyle from last week fans dinero
33:51
freestyle from last week that's up uh
33:54
make sure you go check that out Omar
33:55
Epps oh Omar Epps this up nice Pam Grier
33:59
is up yes Tommy Davidson is up yes do
34:03
they all freestyle Pam and Tommy and
34:05
Omar
34:06
none of them did yeah yeah Omar could
34:09
have the Russell was Russell come on he
34:12
hard the Russell hard come on man where
34:15
are you from he got to be from the back
34:17
[Laughter]
34:19
[Applause]
34:21
make sure y'all support hey man y'all
34:23
have a great day stay on the right side
34:25
of positivity thank you for rocking with
34:26
us I'm out real sway across the board on
34:28
that no citizens we have nothing
34:31
left to say
34:34
[Music]
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