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CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Charlie Wilson Career Highlights
2:43 - Charlie Wilson Style & Fashion
5:31 - Charlie Wilson Hollywood Star Achievement
6:54 - Charlie Wilson Reflects on His Journey
11:46 - Charlie Wilson Music Legacy & Artist Collaborations
14:38 - Charlie Wilson & Bobby Brown Collaboration
14:46 - Charlie Wilson "Computer Love" Insights
17:40 - Charlie Wilson & Don Toliver Partnership
20:46 - Charlie Wilson Talks Bruno Mars
24:58 - Charlie Wilson Dream Collaborations
28:18 - Charlie Wilson on Mental Health Advocacy
30:20 - The Future of Charlie Wilson
33:10 - Charlie Wilson Closing Remarks
34:26 - Charlie Wilson "One I Got" Performance
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0:00
yeah get that man get that Juggernaut
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give that icon give that Legend a round
0:06
of applause get that man a standing
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ovation give that man a standing
0:12
ovation he transcended generations and
0:16
looks the exact same give that man a
0:18
standing ovation stand Ovation I stand
0:21
up for myself come on man get out man
0:24
for yourself come on man from The Gap
0:26
end till you turn my life around album
0:28
to now yeah oh that man is still fly
0:31
ladies and gentlemen give him a stand in
0:33
Ovation come on man this is the voice of
0:36
Cho they all want to work with him it
0:38
doesn't matter if it's Kanye if it's
0:40
Snoop it doesn't matter they all want to
0:43
work with him why do you think that is
0:46
Bruno Mars Bruno Mars Justin zimol they
0:49
all want to work with him man we talking
0:51
13 Grammy um nominations um 11 NAACP
0:56
image Awards including two wins 2009
0:59
Soul Train icon award 13 number ones 13
1:02
I'm sorry I get to that just I got to
1:05
that part yet I got to that point 13
1:08
number ones billboard number one
1:10
billboard number ones yeah uh There goes
1:13
my baby was named the number one Urban
1:15
adult song for 2009 in billboard wow
1:18
this man I can if I keep reading we
1:20
ain't going to get to an interview I
1:22
want to welcome him back though man I
1:24
grew up loving his music his brothers
1:26
and him and and even when he went solo I
1:28
and working with Mr all these different
1:30
folks really embracing rap at a time
1:33
when a lot of R&B and soul artists uh
1:36
frowned on it or was apprehensive about
1:38
it they didn't hate on it but they
1:40
didn't help it this man that's too they
1:44
didn't help it they didn't hate they
1:46
waited right but this man embraced
1:49
hip-hop understood the evolution that it
1:51
was just the the the the the offspring
1:54
of everything that they've been doing
1:56
all of these years and man I don't know
1:58
people who could just stay so fly and
2:00
stay on the post and stay connected as
2:02
well as he's had and really well reserve
2:04
and preserve his voice the way he has um
2:07
this man is a beautiful person he's here
2:08
with us today I'm totally honored I
2:11
don't know if he remembers I used to
2:12
work with his family Michelle and them
2:14
over in Hayward at Creole at a Creole
2:16
restaurant underneath this Creole
2:17
restaurant and I think Michelle was
2:20
your uh what niece she's your niece yeah
2:24
Michelle and I became good friends and
2:26
so I've always been in your corner even
2:28
before you knew me before I was even on
2:29
radio and TV man give it up for the one
2:31
and only Charlie Wilson is here man
2:34
Wilson Charli Wilson let's get it get it
2:39
going yeah let's get it going man um
2:43
Charlie how do you stay fashionably
2:45
conscious like what you wearing right
2:47
now I could take this same outfit and go
2:49
to the award show red carpet who dresses
2:51
you man uh uh my
2:56
manager or my wife uhhuh no you know
3:00
most of the stuff be birthday presents
3:02
and things like that and and I me and my
3:05
wife we don't like being in in stores a
3:07
very long time she gets claustrophobic
3:09
in those places she said I don't like
3:10
this going on shopping like that so we
3:13
sent somebody we had wardrobe people who
3:15
just you know go and bring the stuff
3:17
back everybody knows they know the sizes
3:19
and they always bring stuff you know I
3:21
cannot even get in my closet no more I
3:24
was in there yesterday I was like what
3:26
are we going to do with all these
3:27
clothes man I got to get she said we got
3:29
to get rid of some this I said but
3:30
everything is new now how can't we go
3:32
get something throw away something new
3:34
we could throw it I said I ain't going
3:35
to throw it away I said but we got to
3:37
clear this closet out cuz it goes in and
3:42
just oh is that many clothes oh man yeah
3:45
I'm just serious and I haven't wore half
3:47
of that stuff yet what size you the
3:49
first large I'm getting there man I mean
3:52
listen you want to get some off I could
3:53
take some of your jackets you slimming
3:55
down I'm slimming down I'm almost there
3:57
do you got s those is it important
4:00
though is it important for you as an
4:02
artist because I remember um hearing
4:05
James Brown talk about how important it
4:07
is what you wear on stage to make sure
4:09
you wear certain colors that pop so you
4:11
don't blend in with the background you
4:13
know how important is it to when you got
4:15
a new single out Superman for you to be
4:18
fashionably on point to look a certain
4:20
way well I I don't make that decision
4:22
anyway I just like I don't I don't have
4:23
nothing to say about any of that stuff
4:25
but uh I do have uh uh wardrobe people
4:28
who pick stuff out my wife said he's
4:31
going to wear this he's going to wear
4:32
that he's going to wear that so okay I
4:34
let her have it I hey
4:37
I I if you let me if you let me have it
4:39
I'll be have so much jewelry on it going
4:41
I got all of just boxes those us with
4:44
with the clear class and you I was like
4:47
so what I'm going to do with all of
4:49
this like it's just too much it's too
4:51
much right yeah it's been year after
4:52
year after year so many years and and um
4:56
and and just stuff has just lined
4:57
up so I don't know man man it's like I
5:00
got family members I got uh people who
5:03
love me and and uh I can give that some
5:06
of that stuff to them and it's okay with
5:07
me yeah I'm a family member all right we
5:09
got Charlie Wilson here man got the new
5:12
single I at large
5:14
too you know what it is man you know
5:16
what it is it's it's large I know it's
5:18
large you know what it is you see my
5:19
shoulders I want to say
5:23
um look at my shoulders my shoulders
5:26
it's a large
5:28
man I want to listen it's a lot of
5:30
people Jay-Z made a comment in Jess
5:33
yesterday when he at the Grammy Awards
5:35
when he talked about people in the best
5:36
album category some people going to you
5:39
know some people going to get robbed
5:40
some people don't even deserve to be
5:42
don't even deserve to be there right and
5:44
sometimes when I see these Hollywood
5:46
Star Walk of Fame ceremonies I wonder
5:49
how did that person get it right but
5:51
when I saw you received the Hollywood
5:54
Walker Fang star I said damn it they got
5:57
it right man took them long time to get
6:00
it right but they way past the time yeah
6:02
way past the time you felt like that too
6:04
yeah I'm I'm fine with it you know I I'm
6:07
not I've never been a braggadocious kind
6:08
of a guy but I mean sometimes things
6:11
should be done you know when they should
6:14
be done and if you still got your little
6:16
ugly raggedy thumb on top of my head
6:18
that ain't going ain't going to last
6:19
long you going to get a cramp in a
6:21
minute cuz I'm going to get what I
6:23
supposed to get and you ain't going to
6:25
be around to see me get it yeah wow Mr
6:28
or Ms whatever a Miss mhm you you ain't
6:31
going to be around to see me get it cuz
6:32
I'm going to get it yeah I'm going to
6:34
get more than you think I'm going to get
6:36
you know and I I I'll I'll I thank God
6:39
for for the things that was wrong with
6:41
me thank God for the things I didn't get
6:43
and I just thank God for everything
6:44
because it said in all things give
6:47
thanks thanks yeah the good and the bad
6:50
that's the reason why I'm getting what
6:51
I'm getting cuz I thank him for
6:52
everything that's been good I thought
6:54
and thought the things I thought was bad
6:55
I'm thinking him for that mhm yeah what
6:58
are some of the things you thought were
6:59
bad
7:00
just just uh my life
7:04
yeah it was bad and I thanked him for
7:06
that cuz I was on when I was on the
7:08
streets homeless I was thanking God for
7:10
that Lord I Thank you whatever this is m
7:12
i don't know I know it's kind of crowded
7:14
down
7:16
here that's a real it's kind of crowded
7:20
down here Lord you got to can I get up
7:22
off this curve because there's too many
7:23
people down here MH yeah he said yeah
7:26
I'm going to get you up in a minute you
7:28
know I didn't didn't I didn't go no
7:31
further than that I just thanked him for
7:32
it all when when the sprinkler systems
7:35
was waking me up in the morning wow next
7:37
to a bush in the wall I was hey I was
7:41
thinking okay I'm I'm woke Lord I'm woke
7:44
the sprinkler system wow next to the
7:46
bushes you didn't have when you there
7:48
wasn't a tent you was just sleeping in
7:50
clothes at that time man had no tent I
7:52
didn't have no tent what no tents back
7:54
in the day I had three three shopping
7:56
carts and a BRI brick for my bed for my
7:58
pillow and a piece of carpet that I was
8:01
laying on so and and some homeless
8:03
people made that for me mhm wow I think
8:07
I know who we should give your clothes
8:09
to we about to go back to Hom yeah I
8:12
don't know where they went man I just
8:13
but they uh somebody was at is that
8:16
Charlie Wilson and that lady pull that
8:18
good knife out get back if I stick this
8:21
in you I'm not GNA stop sticking you and
8:24
that woke me up she was getting ready to
8:26
cut homeboy I was like she said you
8:28
don't know that
8:30
is but look like him she said I'mma to
8:32
tell you one more time to get back I'm
8:34
going to cut you I'mma stab you then
8:37
I'mma cut you
8:38
up so she the guy got back and I rolled
8:42
over I like wow she's dangerous up in
8:46
here she made my my my three shopping
8:49
cards iner and put some that black
8:51
cellophane around it so he couldn't see
8:53
in it and um over the top and
8:57
um and that's why I had it after when
8:59
they made that I was good that was it
9:01
huh that was the wakeup call well the
9:04
the Wake wakeup call was uh I
9:08
seen my cousin she was uh looking really
9:12
really good I was like Wow cuz the
9:15
spirit told me to walk and I started
9:17
walking and when I got to the
9:19
um about maybe a
9:23
mile this a liquor store and then she
9:25
was coming at the liquor store and I
9:27
said cuz hey hey give me a hit she said
9:31
them Tears start rolling I don't get
9:33
high no more cuz it's been three years
9:34
since I sto I was in three years I've
9:37
been down here three years wow oh you
9:40
didn't lost track the time man I'm
9:42
telling you I didn't know nothing about
9:43
nothing and uh so she
9:46
uh just cried and hugged me and come on
9:50
go with me right now I said no cuz I
9:52
ain't going nowhere right said I want
9:54
you to go in this re rehab and I was
9:56
like no I've been in seven of then
9:58
didn't work for me
9:59
I said I I went every time somebody
10:01
wanted me to go and it didn't work I
10:02
ain't ready to go and uh she Saidi want
10:06
you to meet this lady who who
10:09
uh got me uh thank you who got me uh uh
10:14
got me my my stuff and I said
10:17
okay and uh I said I tomorrow we'll go
10:21
MH and uh we take that s Charlie show
10:25
enough show
10:27
enough I went with her and
10:30
um and I never turned around that's been
10:35
almost 30 something years come on man
10:38
come on man that's why they call him
10:41
Superman music 29 years ago something
10:45
like that it's I never look back never
10:47
look back man never look back and look
10:49
at you now man we got this new single
10:51
called
10:53
Superman you see the title was
10:55
appropriate yeah we We R that it's my
10:57
story yeah that's my story my wife is
11:00
she put that cape on me we never look
11:03
back never been good at
11:05
waiting tell you showed me
11:09
patience how you know me yeah it shows
11:12
me I was on one need and save it putting
11:15
my cap on my back when it felt
11:18
unattached when I was at my lowest you
11:21
saw
11:23
Superman it's a bird it's a plane oh
11:28
call me
11:31
Superman
11:33
Superman
11:35
forever yeah yeah man hey man that's
11:38
Charlie Wilson we got a live concert
11:41
back come on man that's the new one
11:43
called Superman yeah oh man what is it
11:47
like for you man to have transcended
11:50
these Generations do you still get
11:51
excited about a new single like oh yeah
11:54
yeah oh yeah man when something when
11:56
something good comes down the pipeline
11:58
man I'm I'm just excited man I'm really
12:01
excited especially if it's good uhhuh
12:03
you know some songs were for me and
12:07
ended up going to somebody else and so
12:09
now I'm F to get some of those songs
12:11
back that were
12:14
mine and I shouldn't say who it is right
12:16
now but all good some it's some records
12:18
that that was was for me end up to end
12:21
up being Bobby Brown's records and some
12:23
of those things okay so which one My
12:25
Prerogative what no no I mean all a lot
12:29
of those songs work for me I'm just
12:30
telling you right now but but it's all
12:32
good I'm uh uh but I'm getting ready to
12:34
reclaim some of those records and and
12:37
uh and sing them it's I'm having fun man
12:40
that's all I'm doing I'm just having fun
12:41
and and uh can get some I just like some
12:44
love some every little step I
12:47
take together every
12:52
step together every little step I take I
12:56
used to love those records man and um
13:00
yeah but you know you know people was
13:02
just all a lot of people was just angry
13:04
at the themselves and
13:07
angry because I couldn't couldn't
13:10
wouldn't been able to pull it off like I
13:11
would
13:14
have no I'm just telling you just a lot
13:16
of times it's just I'm not make making
13:19
names or something like that I'm just uh
13:21
cuz sometime some of them songs went
13:22
around two two or three different places
13:24
uhhuh when it were for me the first time
13:26
and they end up in two or three
13:28
different places end ended up with with
13:30
one of the biggest artists that was in
13:32
the world back in those days yeah and I
13:34
was happy for him and he was uh but uh
13:36
did y'all ever work together you and
13:38
Bobby oh yeah yeah yeah yeah that's
13:41
that's he's like he's like my my son man
13:44
this guy was he's still he's still happy
13:47
in life and I mean he knows what it what
13:50
what this all this all of this is and he
13:53
was so big nothing really phases him now
13:56
because he was like he seen it all right
13:58
he he had it all man he ended up
14:00
marrying one of the one of the greatest
14:03
singles in the world and um and they was
14:06
young and uh he was running he was
14:09
running from place to place and it was
14:12
just one time he sold 40 million records
14:15
yeah Bobby
14:17
Brown it was a lot of lot of Rec we
14:19
forget how huge Bobby Brown man he was
14:22
an artist he was big yeah you know and
14:25
we we had a lot of talks back in those
14:27
days and and uh we we had a lot of fun
14:31
talking about certain things and and uh
14:36
we still like that today yeah M Bobby's
14:38
good people salute to Bobby Brown
14:41
citizen who who who are yo I didn't real
14:45
I did realize but um was it Computer
14:48
Love oh yeah computer love me and Roger
14:57
zap
14:59
hold up man what's that I'm hearing in
15:00
my headphones put put your headphones on
15:02
there
15:03
Charlie you hear you hear something
15:07
[Music]
15:09
man is that true
15:12
[Music]
15:27
I'm that's
15:30
yeah right
15:32
[Music]
15:35
here
15:38
hey that's your hay yeah
15:42
I cuz every time I sang I was like oh
15:44
man I just woke up uhhuh he called me
15:46
3:00 in the morning come on Dy man I got
15:48
something want you to
15:49
do every time I sing I said I just woke
15:51
up I just woke up and he said don't say
15:54
that don't say nothing just saying and
15:57
uh but I I had fun doing that one then
16:00
he come called Shirley down there and
16:01
she did her
16:02
part wow man come on and then they took
16:05
me off of the label was mad cuz I did
16:07
the record they was pissed off oh your
16:11
record label oh man they was just say
16:12
man that ain't no hit I'm like you must
16:15
be crazy ain't no hit yeah that ain't no
16:19
hit you ain't no hit hell that's what
16:22
that's that's where the no hit coming
16:24
from you the label see and we hear a lot
16:27
of young artists talk about label issues
16:28
in 2024 2020 that song came out what
16:32
1980 Something
16:35
and8 8 81 or two I forgot yeah they were
16:39
having problems since day one in record
16:41
business like artists right 1986 ' 86
16:44
wow okay yep um you survived those
16:47
things though right um in terms of the
16:50
the the legal issues that a lot of
16:52
artists have have had you survived it
16:55
what advice do you give to younger
16:56
artists now when it comes to their art
16:57
and their creativity just do what you
17:00
love to do man and and if you want
17:02
somebody on the record just go get the
17:03
person because I know they they all come
17:05
get me and and and all the labors are
17:07
like he can't nobody going to play
17:08
everybody's not going to play that
17:09
record man who givs a damn if everybody
17:12
don't play it internet play it there so
17:15
many ways to get music these days it
17:17
don't have to be radio not not that's
17:19
not the issue no more so that's why they
17:21
really mad at me because everybody comes
17:23
to me for the records MH cuz when they
17:26
want to play and if you huge if you're
17:27
biggest toiv all these other artists
17:30
that that they play music they get their
17:32
music played from all kind of different
17:34
uh you know platforms MH and so I love
17:37
you just shouted out Don toer man know
17:40
that was so ill that's guy yeah wow my
17:44
little buddy man he's just like he
17:46
produced a couple of Records on me as
17:48
well uhhuh came out yet I'm just telling
17:50
y'all oh Don toer got some joint yeah
17:53
yeah he we did two or three things on me
17:55
and uh we I let him go I let him go
17:58
first person let him do get his thing I
17:59
said you going to be huge you'll see
18:00
what I'm saying and then he just took
18:02
off
18:04
just and I said I said we can get back
18:07
to that he was at when he was at the uh
18:09
when he was giv by my star all of them
18:11
was there all of the kids all those
18:13
everybody that ever sang with me was in
18:16
the audience and and that that lady said
18:18
I've never ever seen this many
18:21
superstars at a ceremony with a star
18:24
this is the first time so many
18:26
superstars I was like hey
18:29
I'm Charlie Uncle
18:31
Charlie I showed up for them they showed
18:33
up for me yeah as simple as that
18:36
yeah um uh Charlie Wilson is here man he
18:38
got the new single Superman that's
18:40
available HB yeah we got to continue to
18:44
acknowledge and giv your flowers for
18:45
over five decades in this industry and
18:48
just generation after generation I
18:50
jokingly said on my live you know I know
18:52
your mama was playing that music in the
18:54
basement but cuz mine was you know and
18:57
in the attic and in the cookouts and the
18:59
reunions and everything so just love for
19:02
you for that um how competitive was it
19:04
during those times with The Gap B um
19:07
just just coming out the stage show to
19:09
perform we don't see as much of that
19:11
anymore um sometimes people just come
19:13
out
19:14
grab fire the Gap yeah like well you
19:17
know did nobody get in the garage and
19:20
practice I I practice my band uh 8 to 12
19:24
hours every day wow yeah and sometimes
19:27
16 hours hour days you know I go I fall
19:30
asleep and go off and woke up and come
19:32
back and they putting their guitars and
19:33
things what y'all doing we done no
19:36
you're not plug back up man I just woke
19:39
up let's
19:40
go that's we did it like that until it
19:44
was
19:45
right [ __ ] to 16 hours a day yeah yeah
19:50
man it had to be right and
19:52
uh and and again like you know nobody
19:56
wanted to follow the gab band it just
19:57
nobody would ever want to do
19:59
it because we was sharp as attack and we
20:02
was tight and I I Whistle and then
20:04
things
20:06
changed and I say
20:10
no and we take off into some other
20:13
Groove just by the whistle I got to
20:15
learn that whistle oh yeah man can you
20:17
do that whistle again who damn just
20:19
right there right
20:21
there a different don't start whistling
20:24
in this studio
20:25
sway don't that one use that one I use
20:30
that you can use that whistle I can use
20:32
that
20:33
whistle and y'all change this change the
20:36
music boom he said he whistling no
20:39
that's my uncle he did that for me oh
20:41
yeah that's right we could use that
20:42
whistle you get that get that whistle
20:45
we're going to use that um what bands
20:47
today do you think like you you you went
20:49
on tour with Bruno Mars and his band
20:50
what what are some of the you know the
20:51
roots you know it's a lot of great bands
20:53
what bands you feel kind of come from
20:55
that lineage of what you guys were doing
20:57
in the 7 well it was Bruno I like I
20:59
liked his flavor a lot but
21:02
uh his own people told me said I'm so
21:04
glad you back unle Charlie cuz he just
21:06
been going through the motions when you
21:08
back now he done he got to spice it back
21:11
up got a rise right yeah he had he got
21:14
to spice it back up she because boy you
21:16
put the hammer down I was like I know it
21:18
that that's what I do and uh he do what
21:20
he do and that's you know I don't think
21:22
he would want me on this show if I
21:24
didn't do what I do but I didn't think
21:26
he was going to think that I would be
21:28
just that much because his fans are old
21:31
old school fans in the M yeah so when I
21:33
started on that Gap B them Gap songs M
21:36
they just running down the aisles man
21:38
and I was like oh
21:41
oh let me change my thinking right
21:44
now and then I was on
21:47
in you see you see 40 or
21:50
50,000 white hands up excuse my French
21:53
it's a lot of black hands up as well but
21:55
you know I'm just saying it's a
21:56
different that's a different
21:58
yeah yeah but they were like oldheads
22:01
not I mean they was experienced uh uh
22:04
music lovers yeah and uh I just took
22:08
grab a hold of them like this here and
22:10
just grabbed them didn't let go and when
22:13
I did let go it was
22:17
over I'm
22:19
done Charlie Wilson y we drop a gem on
22:23
them where that whistle
22:25
at that whistle we love you Uncle
22:29
Charlie I'm de earlier we were having a
22:32
conversation at the top of the show um
22:35
just about how when Hip Hop was still in
22:37
its infancy stages and it was a new art
22:40
form how young it was um it was hard for
22:43
some artist to really imagine growing
22:46
within the culture because you know
22:48
depending on how far back you go there
22:50
wasn't a Jay-Z there wasn't someone who
22:52
was in their 50s who was performing at
22:54
the Hollywood um Walk of Fame when you
22:56
got your star that was also the day of
22:58
your birthday 71 years young yeah man
23:02
come
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on thank you so much man I
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mean I remember the first when I Michael
23:10
gave me my party and I was
23:12
like he stuck the 71 there and was
23:16
just uh and I said you going to leave
23:20
that 71
23:22
there he said why not I said hey I ain't
23:27
think you going leave it there it's like
23:29
I said hey okay might as well he said
23:31
you don't want nobody know who you are I
23:33
said didn't already know who I some
23:34
think I was older than that so I said
23:35
it's all good man that dude was about 85
23:39
years I'm like man I ain't no damn 85
23:40
years he'll be
23:41
quiet was it always easy for you to
23:44
embrace aging huh was it easy for you to
23:47
embrace Aging in an industry that feels
23:50
like it's well yeah it it's it was it's
23:52
it's okay for me to to I people found
23:55
out that I was older a long time ago go
23:58
but it's it's like when it when it when
24:00
you when you start aging people people
24:03
heads head Figures were the ones that
24:05
started like we can't play him he's too
24:07
old for this format that's that's one
24:09
thing that makes pisses me off you know
24:12
how can you sing like I sang and I be
24:14
too too old to be on a format man yeah
24:18
yeah a format I don't have my voice
24:20
don't have a a age limit
24:23
man because if you did ask Don toer ask
24:26
ask Bruno what is it does it have a age
24:29
limit
24:30
facts when I hit that note earlier did
24:32
it have a age
24:33
limit I know a lot of people my age
24:35
can't hit that note but hey I'm
24:39
different than everybody I'm still here
24:42
I'm still making number one records and
24:44
everybody trying to figure out how I'm
24:45
doing it it ain't drugs it's water there
24:48
you go it's water it's water that's what
24:51
it is come on Charlie Wilson come on Wow
24:54
be like water be like water
25:00
yo is it anybody that passed on that you
25:03
wish you would had opportunity to
25:05
collaborate with
25:07
yes
25:09
um man I think about him all the time um
25:13
Eddie Kendricks and he had called when I
25:16
was in Alabama I didn't know I swear to
25:18
God I didn't know this man was from that
25:20
area and somebody gave me a tap said
25:22
this Eddie K I throw that in the Box a
25:24
no Eddie K down here no damn Alabama but
25:26
I didn't know he was that's what and
25:28
when I saw him he was sick
25:30
dying and we was at
25:33
a the W award show and we was they was
25:37
set to B him and I mean
25:39
um um one of some one of the other
25:42
Temptations and uh and he
25:45
said I he said I sent you a tape one
25:49
time and I just dropped to the
25:51
floor I just then I knew it was him and
25:55
I said Ed man I swear I didn't know that
25:57
was you if it would I would you know
26:00
because Rick James had done something
26:02
with the Temptations and you know it is
26:06
I'm gonna get Charlie Wilson I didn't
26:08
know that there was him for real that
26:10
was looking for me I just didn't believe
26:12
it was him down in Alabama wherever it
26:15
was I can't remember was something like
26:16
that and uh and I said man I so sorry is
26:19
it too late he said no it's not too late
26:23
but I don't know when I'm
26:25
leaving and then I cried and I was like
26:28
ah man this is that hurts me more than
26:31
anything and uh about two weeks I said I
26:34
I call him they said he died I was like
26:36
oh man so that was he was one of the
26:38
ones and
26:40
uh um Donnie had the way wow met him in
26:46
uh Black Expo 71 in Chicago and
26:51
um and of course you know it's you know
26:54
slash Stone and I he's so proud he keeps
26:57
sending messages to me I'm so proud of
26:59
him telling him tell him that and uh so
27:02
I get all his messages all the time cuz
27:05
he was one of
27:06
my Idols I don't like to use the word
27:09
Idols but he's the one I looked up to
27:12
you know and but uh he's still writing
27:15
every day and I was like oh man let me
27:18
have some of them ones you writing said
27:20
that man just to him cuz I know he can
27:23
still play and he's still coming up with
27:25
these things like and he when he see him
27:27
laughing he's
27:29
like he do that he know it's like was
27:31
when he was when slid of Family Stone
27:34
was huge so he's coming up with him said
27:36
man let me have that man let me have
27:39
that and uh
27:42
so he said I got you man so I'm I got
27:46
messages going back to him just in case
27:48
something happens to him yeah uh that he
27:50
would
27:51
um uh let me have something you know cuz
27:55
I would just play and put it on and then
27:57
let's just go do that yeah I'm I'm happy
28:01
man being alive and well because I've
28:03
been through a lot and I'm still here
28:05
and and and there's no you know no
28:06
pressure I'm just we writing songs and
28:09
we keep putting them out and and thank
28:11
God for them when they work they work
28:12
and when they don't work thank God for
28:14
that yeah you still look good thank you
28:17
okay all right we go this is David Weber
28:20
and he's a mental health therapist he he
28:22
he started a new segment with us today
28:25
um called mental what do we call ital
28:29
and he's also Chris Weber's little
28:30
brother the basketball player he want to
28:32
ask you a question go ahead yeah I just
28:34
you know you've been in this industry
28:36
such a long time just wondering how you
28:38
take care of your mental health like
28:39
what's what are some things you do to
28:41
not only stay healthy physically but
28:44
also mentally well I try to eat right
28:47
and uh my wife she cooks good you know
28:50
Persian uh recipes and because she's a
28:52
Persian you know she Cherry rice some
28:55
Tad she t t t
28:59
go s again now he's he
29:02
almost the best thing you can eat right
29:06
always almost but uh you know she she
29:09
was saying uh this yesterday when we got
29:12
when we got to New York I went to go to
29:14
uh over there at the Thompson uh and and
29:17
I used to wait to could get that
29:18
hamburger and that's not the good stuff
29:21
I just eat uh a lot of great salads and
29:24
good salads and and and a lot of herbs
29:26
and stuff inside those salads and and
29:29
you my wife she cooks with turmeric and
29:31
a lot of stuff you know she uses all of
29:34
the Persian spices that is really really
29:36
good for your body and so that's in
29:39
everything we eat
29:41
everything you know and um so that's
29:44
where I'm at man I just try to eat right
29:46
and and stay active you know and
29:50
um hey man that's where I'm at gu that's
29:53
right man you you got to keep a positive
29:55
uh mindset and that that's part of your
29:58
mind tells your body what to do if you
30:00
thinking you're sad then your body is
30:02
sad absolutely absolutely and you got
30:05
good people around you keep mentioning
30:06
your wife I do she's she's she's
30:09
Superman yeah she's the one put the cape
30:11
on me you know like you know again she's
30:14
she's there for every move and every
30:16
every moment Every Move I Make she's
30:18
there beautiful love it Charlie Wilson
30:21
man listen wow 50th anniversary in the
30:23
music business a that crazy 50th
30:26
anniversary in the music business that
30:28
don't make sense 50th anniversary in the
30:31
music business five decades come on five
30:34
decades you ain't even been here five
30:37
decades wow come on man I am Charlie
30:41
Wilson is the New York Times and
30:43
Washington Post best seller the Memoir
30:46
yes come on and I don't even think we at
30:49
halftime for your career yet not yet
30:52
what you see what you see coming up what
30:53
do you see for yourself well I'm I'm
30:55
doing a documentary and uh we got the
30:58
video maybe be coming soon for um
31:01
Superman and uh Michael parin is in
31:04
charge of that and he's sometimes he
31:06
might let it lay span D let it lay used
31:08
to play that he span D might let it lay
31:11
I don't know you know but if we had our
31:13
did they had ideas for for the video for
31:15
that one and I don't know if he still
31:16
got the idea for that if we moving on to
31:18
something else um but I don't I don't
31:22
know I won't know until we get right up
31:23
on it and uh but I KN we have we I do
31:26
know we have a doc doc a documentary
31:28
coming um and I'm just trying to get all
31:31
that it's everything situated you know
31:34
it's a lot of stuff I took out the book
31:36
when I when I had it I am Charlie Wilson
31:38
book and then family members they saw
31:42
that they didn't see their name in there
31:43
like they thought they was going to see
31:45
and then they soon as they didn't see
31:47
that they went back to doing the same
31:48
stuff they was doing to me and so I got
31:51
a chance to talk to them before they
31:53
passed and I said okay I so I'm going
31:55
I'm going to have to get you mhm she
31:58
going to get them all right I got to get
32:00
you okay hey man so I'm not sure what
32:03
that ominous message means but I'm glad
32:05
I ain't on the other end of
32:08
it because the truth the truth will set
32:10
you free and now you got freed a
32:12
different way but uh but your son heard
32:15
it all and so so you know sometimes your
32:19
neph real blood nephews will get upset
32:21
when to hear something but when I was
32:23
talking and uh and and saying things to
32:27
to the family members and they was like
32:29
they said they say he's sorry they say
32:31
he's sorry Uncle Char I said
32:32
okay all right and I just went on and on
32:35
and on I talked two hours about it and
32:37
then everything was he said he's sorry
32:39
Uncle CH I said
32:41
okay at least you heard everything so
32:44
yeah yeah when I tell my story in the
32:46
documentary you know what you heard so
32:47
it's all good and that's I'm not uh
32:50
putting shame to anybody because they
32:52
left the
32:54
Earth you know just telling your story
32:57
I'm gonna tell M I'm going to tell it I
32:59
took you out of the book the first
33:01
time because I was embarrassed for
33:05
you yeah I'm putting you in the dock
33:08
though okay Charlie Wilson man can I get
33:11
in the dock somehow can
33:14
we I gave sway my
33:17
whistle my
33:20
whistle hey man listen brother you
33:23
always welcome tell your team if he ever
33:28
M Mike if anybody give you the run
33:31
around it ain't us we always want him on
33:34
this show so you heard it from me okay
33:38
love you too man Charlie Wilson let's
33:40
keep going baby come
33:42
on okay all right come on but say it
33:44
again but say Sway With The I love you
33:46
sway there you go I love you Sway and
33:50
sh this is sh this is sh that's right
33:53
that's right it is
33:55
a so anyway man love you so and all of
33:58
y'all everybody is just is just
33:59
wonderful on this show and I just want
34:01
to be able to say that before I get out
34:03
off this platform may God always bless
34:05
all of you and and and and keep keep it
34:08
on on 100 every time don't pull no
34:12
punches just say it like it really is
34:14
and so you don't have to worry about uh
34:17
back ping and try to say something you
34:19
know just say what you want to say in
34:21
the beginning and it's
34:23
done yeah that's the gym of life right
34:25
there we going to end the show now we
34:27
going to play your song
34:31
[Music]
34:34
Superman
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