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Jun 3, 2024
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J Valentine sits down with Sway In The Morning to reveal an insane story about Michael Jackson’s zoo and his fascinating career journey. From his roots in the legendary Bay Area R&B group, The Neutrons, to his incredible collaborations with artists like Whitney Houston and Chris Brown, J Valentine shares it all. Discover the challenges he faced, the triumphs he celebrated, and the wild tales that shaped his path in the music industry.
Don't miss out on this engaging conversation where Jay Valentine talks about everything from street life to studio sessions, and even his surprising encounter with Michael Jackson’s famous chimp, Bubbles.
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Intro
0:50 - J Valentine
7:25 - How Did You Start
11:28 - Influence on Family
12:41 - Incarceration
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you got to trust your talent what that
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man
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said to me oh go man oh so he got so
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used to podcast and he he think he could
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just jump in anytime he want like it's
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his you know what I mean you want to go
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ahead take the you want to take it right
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here man you my apologies o this ain't
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R&B money
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dog everything is R&B money R&B
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money but he said I got me over here
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sounding like sweat can I cuss I'm like
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we live we we just different over here
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come on man that ain't tank sitting next
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to you dog way pret
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over listen they be talking about his
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little muscles and all that this is way
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prettier over here pretty though hey T N
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N get him out of here get him out of
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here come on man I'm here by myself
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today you hear about you to bring that
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guy nah man he cost too much he cost too
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much you know what well you know this
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what's interesting about our next guest
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um is we we had a guy by the name of
0:58
beat boy crumbs here the other day he
1:01
from a beat boy crew C Style Elements
1:03
out of Fresno they've been breaking for
1:06
over 30 years and now breaking this in
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the Olympics he's going to be one of the
1:10
judges and I said what makes you hip-hop
1:13
and he said because to me I came in as
1:16
dance but we're really true hip hop we
1:18
do it all we dance we break we DJ we
1:22
write meaning graph writers we're fully
1:24
IM immersed in the in the culture when I
1:27
think of our next guy our next guest
1:29
when it comes to Artistry he truly does
1:32
it all he sings he writes he produces he
1:36
manages he's truly done it all he even
1:39
has his own podcast R&B money a lot of
1:42
you guys remember him from the first hit
1:44
he had she's worth the trouble that was
1:47
back in 2006 I remember him from the
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iconic group from the Bay
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Area come on come on call the neutrons
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ladies and gentlemen
2:00
ladies and gentlemen he has done it with
2:02
them all he has worked with everybody
2:04
from Whitney Houston to Chris Brown wow
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to helping to resurrect resurrect and
2:09
sustain Tank's career uhuh ladies and
2:12
gentlemen tank tank going get you yes he
2:15
is tank me and Tracy ain't got nothing
2:16
to do with that [ __ ] no we love you
2:18
tank of that want
2:21
no tank got some had to deal with it you
2:24
know what I mean and he chose to do so
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but ironically because of of that he is
2:30
floating back into the scene he has as
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an artist um um as a Performing Artist
2:36
but he's here for so many different
2:37
reasons he recently released a single
2:39
with Chris Brown we just played it un
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lonely his family has been through a lot
2:44
and he has prevailed look at this man
2:46
give it up for the one and only Jay
2:48
Valentine citizens J Valentine J
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Valentine get yourself a CL Jak
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Valentine come on man they said the
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neutrons that sound like did name what
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was that doing the neutron dance oh yeah
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you you really going there you really
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going there today what is the point
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sisters right y The Pointer Sisters are
3:09
from from the bay B yes yes a lot of
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Gangster R&B singers Lenny Williams
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Lenny Williams is from Tony Tony Tony
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yeah I didn't know Lenny was I knew Tony
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Tony inv inv
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yes
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k a lot of Ganga R&B is the Northern
3:30
California the most gangster place for R
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like the most Gangster R&B arst come
3:35
from Northern California what you say
3:37
like during the Hy movement I used to
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during the movement I used to wear
3:41
bulletproof S no way no lie why it was
3:45
nasty out there it nasty see during the
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highy movement during the high movement
3:50
like years this this is the first time
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I've ever said that in 2 from two I mean
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the high was a little before but when we
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were really immersed in it it was
3:59
probably 2004 five yeah to like 2007 you
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was you wore a bulletproof vest because
4:06
of the Oakland the Bay Area environment
4:08
just because of so when my record broke
4:12
so shout out to Big Von okay shout out
4:14
to B big from the bay man big Von is the
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Oracle he's the gatekeeper Northern
4:18
California when he broke my first record
4:20
out there which was the the take from
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the T P record uh he had um I'm Sprung
4:25
and I took it and I made it go dumb Y
4:27
and it was a Bay Area record and I was
4:30
doing probably four clubs a
4:34
week I'm talking on the low though like
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that that was a light week uhhuh like
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some nights I would go from San Jose to
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Oakland back to San Francisco and then
4:45
if we had something in like sasta pool
4:48
all the way in Marin past Marin County
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we would just jump and jump and jump and
4:52
jump so there's I mean those areas got
4:56
different people that run them areas you
4:58
know I mean it's it's a it's a politic
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in each
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city did you ever get confronted was
5:04
there ever an incident that made you
5:06
think I I got to wear the vest next time
5:08
um I mean we had a we had a couple
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incidents like what we had a couple
5:11
incidents um are the statue of
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limitations yeah
5:16
bro you walking that OP level right now
5:20
walk to you see how Jay's looking at me
5:23
like what is SW he try to make sure he
5:25
good it's only as good as your answer
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exactly so that is my answer
5:30
oh no man don't opt yourself sitting
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next to sway homie when did you take off
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the vest wait hold up come back come
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back well now give me an example of an
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incident that that might have happened
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um might have an incident that might
5:44
have happened was this is you know this
5:46
before I had kids this before you know
5:48
before I grew up and um I get this I get
5:51
this phone call possibly possibly I get
5:55
this phone call and maybe I have like
5:58
four girls in the the car with me okay
6:01
okay I don't know how somehow they end
6:02
up in the car I I like big cars if you
6:05
know about me I I I don't really drive
6:07
the two seaters I drive the big body
6:10
bands the big body this the big body
6:12
that right so you know that's fair
6:13
enough they can fit okay
6:16
so I was coming from Oakland allegedly
6:20
and we're coming across the bridge and
6:22
my phone go off and one of my guys is on
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the other line he's like yeah man they
6:27
uh they just they just pulled up I hang
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on on such and such uh-huh uhhuh I'm
6:32
already halfway there by the time I get
6:35
there cats is going this way running
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that way and I'm jumping out of the car
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thinking I'm you know
6:42
Goldie Goldie is the main character from
6:45
the movie come on man don't do that made
6:48
in Oakland they don't know don't do they
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do know come on man you know what I'm
6:53
saying my bad now [ __ ] can you buy that
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so I jump out the car like that and um
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you know we had to do some rundowns man
7:01
and we was trying to figure out who was
7:03
who and next thing I know I'm in the car
7:05
with the girls and allegedly they're
7:08
like what are we doing I said well we
7:09
chasing
7:12
[ __ ] new t-shirt alert that's the song
7:16
with those lyrics sh the
7:18
[ __ ] this is why I don't do interview
7:22
this welcome to your first interview
7:25
Year got to do this man how do we start
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here from the B man people knew like
7:31
when you from the it's a it's a whole
7:33
different mentality um the neighborhood
7:36
you grew up in yes name some of the
7:39
artists that the JT so I'm from I'm from
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Filmore Filmore JT the bigger fure
7:44
listen we we purposely take the r out so
7:46
please don't put it back in I get hey
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man are you from Filmore no
7:52
[ __ ] this is tortes kind of
7:56
interview now but um
8:00
ronsky no no we going to start rapping
8:02
Forte rapping for come on he brought
8:03
that he brought that Platinum plaque
8:05
back to San Francisco come for the
8:08
Players Club you know with the twins Guy
8:10
and Fly okay and Frankie J like listen
8:13
they they they did it early J they did
8:15
it early come on and that was hun point
8:17
and fil more connected coming at the two
8:19
different neighborhoods guys in case
8:20
y'all didn't know what that HP shout out
8:22
to shout out to H Larry jun's from
8:25
Harbor Road HP his father big Larry is
8:28
actually my father young guy okay you
8:30
know what I mean um so it's it's it's
8:33
all connected I got a little brother
8:34
from Harbor ronsky yeah yeah yes man
8:37
listen so s Quin San Quinn uh
8:40
Bailey Don Tano who has the the the
8:43
biggest vegan restaurant in the bay now
8:47
um so just a lot of a lot of talent
8:50
Messi Marv man Messi Marv Messi Marv man
8:53
on I can't get we we got a record
8:54
together called say love that I can't
8:55
get away from to this day where's Z
8:57
toing from filmo come on let's go wait a
9:01
minute did y'all know yeah found found
9:04
by where you from JT the bigger figure
9:07
there you go who's been all around the
9:10
world demo come on I'm from the other
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side Heather I'm from from the town I'm
9:15
from the town it's different little
9:17
different over there so you singing R&B
9:20
M did people laugh at you cuz all of
9:23
them were rapping nah well you know I
9:25
come from a different type of family so
9:27
nobody they just kind of accepted what
9:29
we were cuz my father was so wild that
9:31
it was
9:32
like I wish you [ __ ] would laugh that
9:35
my sons is singing and dancing your dad
9:38
was what your dad had a rep I don't know
9:40
if you knew this yes cuz they your
9:42
family had a crew called the new group
9:44
called the neutron all so our group was
9:46
called the neutrons but my family is the
9:48
NES the tatums and the Beasley okay and
9:52
you know what does that mean it's it's
9:55
history it's a lot it's a lot of history
9:57
and it's something that has been around
9:59
in the Bay Area probably
10:02
for going on 80 90 years where it was
10:05
just 80 90 years yeah like our my my
10:11
great great
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Grandmama Big Mama n was you know what
10:16
was she known
10:17
for uh paraphernalia
10:21
paraphernalia yo you okay so it started
10:24
it started there it started there how
10:26
would you describe them the energy that
10:28
you feel like you inherited like what is
10:30
the adjectives that are part of your
10:32
family DNA that you have character wise
10:36
we're Hustlers we're Hustlers we are we
10:38
are going to we're going to make
10:40
something out of nothing that's I mean
10:43
that's that's literally what is what has
10:44
been for me and for me I was just I've
10:47
been able to take that mentality and do
10:50
something positive and legal with it but
10:54
it's I mean we we we have the same
10:57
mindsets you know I talk to my big
10:58
cousins all the time and they're
10:59
extremely proud of me because I've been
11:01
able to make that transition like I grew
11:05
up in I grew up in visiting rooms like
11:08
that that is my childhood for the most
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part if if it was my father if it was my
11:13
mother if it was my cousins if it was
11:16
you know uncles you know um one of my
11:19
you lost your brother well I lost my
11:21
brother to the streets um so you know it
11:24
was you know it was just a kind of a
11:27
that was the story line MH now that
11:29
you've become successful my bad Heather
11:31
have you seen a change in your family
11:34
line like have you seen your influence
11:37
yeah yeah yeah like I got I got a cousin
11:38
actually you know Big Rich is my cousin
11:40
Big Rich is your cous rich is my cousin
11:42
and we talk about it we talk about it
11:44
all the time how the neutrons
11:48
were in a in a sense we were we were we
11:52
were like the The Vessel yeah for people
11:54
to see that oh you can do something
11:56
different oh this can make sense
11:59
um and be successful even even though
12:02
you know we we ran into we ran into some
12:04
you know some different type of stuff
12:06
that that kind of derailed where our
12:08
careers were going at that point but it
12:10
still was an inspiration to you know to
12:14
younger guys that were coming up in the
12:15
bay within our family and just people
12:18
who were watching like you know it was
12:20
people who saw us on Soul Train yeah who
12:22
saw us on you know uh we couldn't
12:24
believe it yeah yeah I mean like we
12:26
sitting on the couch with Donnie Simpson
12:28
MH you know what I mean
12:29
so for some kids from San Francisco and
12:32
from the projects in San Francisco like
12:34
that that was we were inspiring a lot of
12:36
people that we didn't even know we were
12:37
inspiring we didn't think that was
12:40
possible Heather I'm going to let you
12:41
jump in real go for it you said
12:44
something that uh is a big conversation
12:46
amongst me and my friends when we talk
12:49
about um
12:51
incarceration do you think it's a good
12:53
idea to bring young children on
12:56
visits that's tough that's tough I think
12:59
I think it I think it's Case by case I
13:02
feel like if I was ever in that
13:06
situation I wouldn't want my children to
13:08
come see me um because I wouldn't want
13:11
them to see me like that but I do feel
13:13
like um it did build a different
13:16
character for me and for my brothers and
13:18
sisters um but yeah that's I think
13:21
that's a case but you got you have to
13:22
decide that in your own household you I
13:24
mean I I'm not the one to say oh don't
13:26
don't bring your kid I just I would do
13:28
my time by myself if that was me and I
13:30
asked because you did mention before you
13:32
had kids and so and I'm just wondering
13:34
because you had to see it and I'm glad
13:36
you answered it that way you saw it as a
13:39
kid but you would not want your children
13:40
to see you like that got it that's tough
13:42
like leaving that leaving the visiting
13:44
room was it's literally like a bad movie
13:49
every single time it's never the same
13:52
thing of like oh I know what this is
13:54
going to be it's like you're watching
13:55
somebody walk your parent away and you
13:58
watching you know are you talking to
13:59
through some glass window that [ __ ] is
14:02
terrible doing this dumb ass [ __ ] yeah
14:04
that pounding through the put put your
14:06
hand on glass he don't feel
14:09
nothing especially after Co he can't be
14:11
putting your hand on glass come on J
14:13
Valentine come on man what that come
14:15
from very insensitive you got to laugh
14:18
through it sometimes let's do some
14:19
little more history because from what I
14:21
recollect with the neutron and your dad
14:24
MH by the way how many siblings do you
14:27
have a man well you know rest in peace
14:30
to my father but it depended on what day
14:33
you would ask him uhhuh so what's today
14:35
what's today today today we Thursday
14:38
today we on Thursday today okay Thursday
14:40
could have been 25 27 on Tuesday you
14:44
know maybe he you know he didn't fell
14:46
out with one or two of them so now it's
14:48
down to
14:50
18 so how many you think he really had
14:53
how many siblings you think you have
14:54
I've
14:57
met [ __ ] man I'm about to be up here I'm
15:01
about to be up here like like one of the
15:03
one of one of the homies that's a
15:04
football player that that was naming his
15:06
kids I ain't going to say his name but
15:07
that's the homie
15:10
um I would I would say probably about 17
15:13
of us though really about you know like
15:15
as he would say 17 deep No
15:19
Sleep wow here's the interesting thing
15:22
about Jay Valen I only have two you only
15:24
have two have two I have two I know that
15:27
what if I ask you tomorrow nope not
15:30
I've I've uh okay I've done well with my
15:33
life for a long time so I think by now
15:35
they would have said
15:37
something popped out on me especially
15:39
now what yeah especially now this this
15:44
Resurgence you're having yeah is quite
15:47
phenomenal because it's been cool it's
15:49
been all right it's been cool it's been
15:51
it's been phenomenal I had a moment
15:52
yesterday what happened I had a moment
15:54
yesterday I am going through um
15:59
TSA yes TSA is the is actually the
16:03
funnest part of being recognized at this
16:05
point right that is and I I used to say
16:08
that me and tank used to have this
16:10
conversation I'm like oh you cracking
16:12
when TSA started talking to you and
16:14
stopping you yeah that's how you know
16:16
you cracking yeah cuz they see everybody
16:19
so they be saying oh oh you know I seen
16:21
that last interview or whatever right so
16:24
it's you know I flew in early so it was
16:26
maybe 5: in the morning uh and I'm
16:29
walking through and of course I got on a
16:31
San Francisco Giants hat in LA and you
16:34
know the TSA guy is like oh you know
16:36
this is DOA town and we going back and
16:37
forth on that and then I look and I'm
16:40
like [ __ ] that's Reading
16:44
Rainbow right I'm like [ __ ] Reading
16:48
Rainbow you gonna put that on a t-shirt
16:50
too so I'm like I'm literally like oh
16:53
[ __ ] right I'm having a moment listen we
16:57
all grew up on Lavar
16:59
k k read R like come on man you can't
17:04
act funny style if you see Lavar Burton
17:06
right so I'm like I sto mid conversation
17:08
with the TSA D I'm like cuz he he
17:10
telling him he gota walk back CU he beat
17:12
I said hey man you gonna tell re and
17:13
rainbow he got to walk through
17:16
twice man you disrespectful dog so I
17:19
walk through before him I get on I get
17:22
on the little elevator thing before he
17:23
does and we meet in the club and he goes
17:26
Jay Valentine I'm like
17:29
what [ __ ]
17:31
me that is
17:33
me and he's extremely gracious and he's
17:38
and literally calls me a
17:39
legend count called you a legend on my
17:43
mama on my mama and I I was not
17:46
deserving I do not feel deserving of
17:48
that coming from him but just just how
17:52
gracious and and respectful he
17:56
was as who he is it just it tripped me
18:00
out and then I I kind of walked to the
18:01
plane on you know I was floating a
18:02
little bit like can't they call me a
18:04
legend you earn that Manar get that a
18:07
round of applause shout shout out to
18:09
Lavar Burton for real um he actually has
18:12
a new documentary that they just put out
18:14
called butterfly in the sky damn and he
18:16
gave him a cross promotion come on man I
18:18
like that J Valentine but this is your
18:21
this is your your 40s now bro and and
18:23
it's and it's bigger than you were in
18:25
your 20s and your 30s literally yeah it
18:28
is it is and purposely why cuz you kind
18:31
of faded out of the game on purpose yeah
18:34
I I am you stepped back when did that
18:36
happen What made that happen my kids
18:40
okay my kids my my son initially um when
18:43
I was so right after she worked to
18:46
trouble came out my son was born and I
18:50
started to deal with some of the the
18:54
label issues and the different things
18:56
that were going on with that and and I
18:59
just always remembered and I I had these
19:04
they not going to play with the they're
19:06
not going to play with me
19:07
moments which as I would say to my
19:11
younger self and to artists who are
19:13
coming up and Executives and different
19:14
people in this business don't get so
19:16
caught up in that okay you know I think
19:19
I was I was reverting back
19:22
to that childhood and the street
19:24
mentality the things that you were
19:25
asking me about that I still was
19:27
carrying and that street mentality ality
19:30
and I should I you know I had to I
19:32
should have realized that there are
19:33
certain things in this business that if
19:35
you want this you're going to have to
19:39
you know sacrifice some of the other
19:41
things and sometimes you know you're
19:43
going to have to put yourself in a
19:44
position of understanding I think in the
19:47
hood we look at it as they playing with
19:50
me yep yep and you're not looking at
19:52
both size you're not looking at and now
19:55
we going to start talking business and
19:56
R&B money that we're not you're not
19:58
looking at
20:00
when somebody has a bonus package
20:02
connected to your
20:04
deal you're not thinking about you know
20:08
what you know when certain dollars are
20:10
spent that there are more people that
20:12
are affected by that than just you but
20:15
as artists it's a very singular thing
20:18
for artists artists are very you know
20:20
for lack of a better term egotistical
20:23
yeah and me me me especially that's
20:25
really why we don't have any R&B groups
20:27
right I mean get to that I'm sure um but
20:31
why we don't have that either because
20:33
people are so caught up in themselves
20:35
that they don't think about the
20:37
ancillary things that are around them
20:38
and and the people that are affected by
20:41
what they do or what they don't do and
20:43
there were certain things that I wasn't
20:44
doing like what um I didn't do press
20:48
which you still don't do that the hell
20:52
I'm just saying you know he became press
20:54
I but yes okay I I became press but then
20:57
I but then I also put myself in a
20:59
position of
21:00
ownership I put myself in a position of
21:02
ownership where I was the person that
21:04
had to look in the mirror I no one else
21:07
was truly affected by what my decisions
21:10
were in that sense right so then I could
21:12
I could operate as such and that and if
21:14
you want to do that there's a lot of
21:17
money involved there's a lot of you know
21:19
sleepless nights okay how we going to
21:21
pay this mortgage how we going to pay
21:22
this you know for this car and this and
21:24
this private school you know what I mean
21:26
like it's a different thing that you
21:27
have to start thinking to your when you
21:29
want to be a quote unquote boss mhm you
21:32
didn't Bailey and you start a label so
21:34
yeah I started a label Bailey was signed
21:36
to me okay um so we started a label
21:39
called City Boys music which is
21:40
hilarious now because so Bailey is from
21:43
our neighborhood too that's s Quinn's
21:44
little brother okay um they're like
21:46
family to me okay but the funny thing
21:48
about the name of the company is now you
21:51
know the city boys thing has and City
21:53
Boys and city girls I started City Boys
21:55
in
21:56
2003 four
21:59
uhhuh but it wasn't about that type of
22:02
City boying you know what I mean ours
22:04
was so San Francisco is the city Oakland
22:07
is the town so we were the city boys
22:11
because we were from San Francisco right
22:13
nothing to do with anything else other
22:15
than that of you know and he'll tell you
22:18
in the bay when we when we leave the bay
22:22
we love each other we're all one when
22:24
we're in the bay it kind of turns into
22:27
gangs okay and it kind of turn all them
22:29
[ __ ] is from the city all them [ __ ]
22:30
from the town all them [ __ ] from EPA
22:31
mind you know what I mean more
22:34
compartmentalized absolutely absolutely
22:36
but when we're anywhere else I'm talking
22:38
about we can be in the middle of
22:40
Afghanistan and somebody yells ye or
22:43
somebody do the G low or somebody do we
22:46
we we form like vtron yeah you know what
22:48
I mean um
22:51
so for us that's what the name was about
22:54
that's what the I mean so it so when I
22:56
see it now it's I laugh every time city
22:59
girls oh man shout out to the city girls
23:01
shout out to the city girls shout out to
23:03
QC shout out to Simone you know p and
23:06
coach and you know Ethiopia that help
23:08
build that whole thing over there like
23:09
yeah yeah that that was kind of amazing
23:12
um I want to go over a couple of things
23:13
but since you brought that up M and you
23:16
do this magnific salute to the R&B money
23:20
podcast oh my gosh right on time yeah
23:24
necessary and the right people doing it
23:27
thank you I agree and people love going
23:29
up there they had a good time with us
23:31
man yeah because y'all real artists as
23:34
well y'all just starting mid
23:35
conversation bust out in the song no
23:38
tank does tank tank literally is a
23:42
jukebox yeah he bust out into song
23:45
working with Whitney Houston so I didn't
23:48
work with Whitney Houston okay I sang
23:50
back I sang background on a record for
23:54
uh I sang background on the only Whitney
23:56
Houston and Mariah Carey
23:58
duet okay yeah for the what was it that
24:01
the Prince of Egypt soundtra you know it
24:03
better than I do yeah um David
24:06
Foster was producing the record or
24:10
producing the soundtrack I don't know
24:12
and um damn I'm about to sound like I'm
24:15
pouring champagne and and baby face
24:18
called me oh my gosh he you got to say
24:21
everybody's name to tell the story you
24:23
do to tell this one I do okay all right
24:25
cuz I got it's like cuz then it turns
24:27
into how the this [ __ ] end up at David
24:29
Foster House okay so baby face so baby
24:32
face I was working with baby face and uh
24:34
and Damon Thomas uh at the
24:36
time and they were they were putting
24:40
together like singers or kind of a choir
24:42
in a sense to sing on this record I
24:44
didn't even know what it was for but I'm
24:46
like oh it's David Foster my brother Bob
24:49
went with me he sang on it and we get in
24:51
there and we end up singing on this
24:53
record that becomes um that song for
24:56
Prince of egyp for Prince of EG didn't
24:58
do it in studio with with with no no no
25:00
no no I did it I did it with f never
25:01
matter no and didn't even know what your
25:04
the background vocals was going to be
25:05
for them I didn't I didn't it was more
25:07
so just you know going and and singing
25:10
and doing something I think I was maybe
25:12
18 uhhuh at the time um I was like damn
25:16
like I get to go in the studio with
25:18
David Foster of course I'll go so that
25:20
and it turned out to be um Prince of e
25:24
soundtrack which sold a gang of Records
25:26
I still got to order my plaque for that
25:27
come on J Jay Val
25:28
got a plaque I took order my slipped my
25:30
mind I was on the way to the grocery
25:32
store need to do laundry I need to order
25:34
my Platinum plaque from from The Prince
25:38
of Egypt soundtrack okay my bad my my
25:42
diamond platinum plaque I'm sorry I
25:44
didn't mean to I didn't mean to minimize
25:46
you right there y y uh but you have got
25:50
a chance to meet some interesting people
25:53
right very very interesting people tell
25:56
us about bubbles man
25:59
here you go with this [ __ ]
26:01
man Michael Jackson monkey bubbles was
26:03
the homie man Michael Jackson monkey
26:07
that's only bubbles I a
26:10
scri for real Michael Jackson monkey
26:13
they were best friends we were not best
26:15
friends that [ __ ] tried to bite me we
26:17
were not really Dam he called bubbles a
26:22
[ __ ] you saw you was competition Hey
26:24
listen everybody [ __ ] me white [ __ ]
26:26
Asian your hady how' that happen your
26:30
father was working with Joe Jackson or
26:32
so my
26:34
father my father one
26:37
day amongst all of his ideas and dreams
26:40
he was like I'mma get y'all to the
26:42
Jacksons he was like I'm going to get
26:45
y'all to the Jacksons I'm going to make
26:47
sure that Joe Jackson Michael Jackson
26:50
and Jackson 5 they meet my kids and see
26:54
that you
26:55
know they're a part of that in that
26:57
lineage right um so one day we jump on a
27:02
uh on a on a school bus that my father
27:07
had turned into a tour bus tour bus with
27:10
a Rolls-Royce Grill on the front
27:13
oh yeah yeah wow we driveing down to LA
27:17
with a Rolls-Royce Grill on the was it
27:19
yellow what color was the bus yeah it
27:21
was still yellow still it's man
27:24
this damn you come a long way brother
27:27
long way
27:28
so y'all take the school bus but you
27:30
know you you you can't decide you can't
27:33
decide where you born and who you born
27:35
with and who you born to right right or
27:37
decide if you going to get on the bus or
27:39
not get on the bus it wasn't no choice
27:42
no choices right so and and we better
27:44
practice 16 hours before we get on the
27:46
bus so took this bus ride to Haven Hurst
27:50
to the legendary street that the
27:53
Jacksons have or I would call it their
27:55
street even though you know it it's not
27:57
but it is so we drove to Haven Hurst and
28:00
Ino and we sat outside the gate and my
28:05
father went and literally talked to the
28:08
um to the guard at the gate and told him
28:10
that he was Joe's cousin and um I that
28:14
two
28:15
gangster but listen so I I kind of give
28:19
y'all the quick version he told him you
28:21
know he was they were cousins and they
28:23
you know he said c bubble hemp who was
28:25
also from San Francisco who managed uh
28:27
SL the Family Stone from valo come on we
28:30
going to shout all flying the Family
28:32
Stone um and Bubba actually had a
28:36
connection to mtown to Jo to Joe Jackson
28:40
to Jackson 5 uh rest in peace to to to
28:43
Uncle bub um and that was so when he I
28:48
guess when the guard gate heard my dad's
28:50
name and the names that he said man the
28:53
gate opened up he let him in the gate
28:55
opened up what did you think at that
28:58
moment as a child like is this really
29:00
happening my father is the greatest man
29:02
who've ever lived in the world that's
29:04
what that's what I thought I'm like I'm
29:07
literally cuz you got to think you gotta
29:09
think bro yeah I got the Michael Jackson
29:11
glove I got the red zipper jacket I got
29:15
the
29:16
socks we got penny loafers at like we
29:18
were literally like come on man the were
29:21
like the little Jackson 5 everybody was
29:23
a Michael Jackson fanatic like it was
29:26
not even close like people talking about
29:28
all these other things and I talk about
29:30
on the podcast a lot you can mention a
29:32
lot of people just don't mention them
29:34
with
29:36
him don't put don't compare anyone come
29:39
on bro who else can stand on the stage
29:40
for 30 minutes and don't say nothing and
29:42
they just screaming and do
29:45
this the the penetentiary side profile
29:48
yo he did do that he did that bro on on
29:52
a stage and they just people was passing
29:54
out and he was
29:55
like he stood was it 30 minutes I'm I'm
29:58
joking when I say that but it was
30:00
minutes but it was it was it felt like
30:02
it it felt like you know what as we get
30:04
older that's we got to start saying it
30:05
it felt like when we start embellishing
30:07
our stories it felt like you did put
30:10
some pump on that one that's 30 minutes
30:13
30 minutes go watch the docum 30 minutes
30:15
okay but that was Michael Jackson but it
30:17
was Michael Jackson right and you know
30:19
to sum it all up it was Michael Jackson
30:20
so when that gate opened up I was like
30:23
oh they can't tell me nothing about Ron
30:25
n yeah anything's possible mhm MH
30:28
anything's possible anything that that
30:30
man tells me can happen I believe can
30:32
happen and I think that really to this
30:36
day for me is the battery in my back
30:38
yeah you cannot tell me I can't do
30:40
something M I believe it did you meet
30:43
Mike that day so Mike I don't think Mike
30:45
was there that day I don't think he was
30:47
there that day but Joe was there you
30:49
know meeting family because this was
30:51
their family home too is crazy like this
30:53
is their family home this is not like oh
30:56
you know this is Joe's house
30:58
like this is their family home so it was
31:00
you know family members you GNA see
31:02
Jackie and you gonna see Reby and you
31:03
gonna see Janet and you know like
31:06
literally and they had the studio and
31:09
the candy house and a zoo yeah a a
31:14
miniature Zoo M it was llamas it was you
31:18
know it was a in in Ino I don't know I'm
31:21
sure you've been to Ino house yeah yeah
31:25
yeah yeah I don't know if it was in Ino
31:26
was right next to about to out me I you
31:28
see I said you see what I just said it
31:30
was somewhere by it allegedly you been
31:33
out H
31:34
[Music]
31:36
boarded it's called stabing trying to
31:39
get me back okay okay but yeah so it
31:42
was it had a mini Zoo bro had a mini Zoo
31:46
yeah man that [ __ ] bubbles was in
31:53
there wow Jay Valentine
31:58
did he run up on you no but but for me
32:01
like I was comfortable with animals
32:04
because we had a lot of animals growing
32:05
up and then my father had wild animals
32:07
mhm like my father had a tiger and my
32:09
father had a monkey y damn yeah where
32:12
did y'all keep the Tiger in the monkey
32:14
well he had he had the Tiger on the top
32:16
of Hunter
32:18
Point listen this is this this is
32:21
documented this is documented this is
32:22
documented that my yes yes that's like
32:26
having the tiger what neighborhood live
32:28
well don't say that but Hunters Point is
32:30
a neighbor it's like having it's like
32:32
having a tiger in the Bronx in the Bronx
32:34
yeah that's that's what it is they had a
32:36
guy who lived across the street from
32:37
where I used to live in Harlem that had
32:39
a tiger and a alligator and remember
32:41
torch in that neighborhood what do you
32:42
have Tor of the block from me yeah me
32:45
towards Little in the house just
32:47
strolling down kept it in the house yeah
32:50
but uh wow this is fascinating you met
32:52
some amazing people in your career when
32:54
you from the jungle man
32:56
yo jungle yo Jay
32:59
Valentine what happened to the R&B group
33:03
mm are you talking about not just in
33:06
general I'm pivoting this is a horrible
33:08
pivot but yeah overall I'm going back to
33:10
something you said about why there
33:11
aren't any R&B groups in individuals
33:14
being too selfish and the egos the Egos
33:16
and the
33:18
woman and the woman youve seen Five
33:21
Heartbeats yeah you see there's always a
33:24
woman that comes in between Always a
33:26
Woman we saw that with B2K there's
33:28
always a woman come on we we can go down
33:30
the line I won't say the names that's
33:32
why I used the fictitious group I used
33:34
the group on the movie but every single
33:37
group because I you know I like an R&B
33:42
to high school music period but
33:44
definitely R&B where we all go there
33:47
freshman year and whatever whichever one
33:50
of us knocks the baddest girl at the
33:53
school once she's our girl don't talk to
33:56
the rest of it
33:58
yeah don't don't I know we was all
34:00
friends yeah but don't you don't know
34:02
them no more that's what R&B music is if
34:05
you look at it whenever a guy gets the
34:07
top and then we'll go away from the
34:09
group a little bit but whenever a guy
34:10
becomes the quote unquote king of R&B
34:13
they don't reach
34:15
back the only guy who's ever truly
34:17
reached back and I'll stand on this is
34:20
Chris
34:21
Brown what about
34:25
Usher I like Usher Yeah I love his music
34:28
Define reach back then right features
34:31
okay take you on
34:34
tour put you out as an
34:37
artist I mean the only other artist I
34:40
can name is Chris I mean U is is is
34:42
Keith Sweat who put on silk put on cut
34:45
close you know what I'm saying but I'm
34:48
talking about but even when even when
34:51
during during during um ke's
34:55
rain there were our Kelly there were you
34:58
know there were there were artists that
35:00
literally were doing all of the shows
35:02
doing all of the award shows doing all
35:04
with the were the representation of R&B
35:08
music and whenever we have the quote
35:11
unquote
35:13
King it's not a lot of reach back it's
35:16
just
35:17
not wow I'm trying I'm racking my brain
35:21
trying to disprove this not to other not
35:22
to other like bringing up other e
35:24
bringing up other men too yeah what
35:27
about women right R&B artist Alicia Keys
35:30
or Mary J BL or I mean I you keep
35:34
jumping okay my bad my bad you keep
35:37
jumping but even even if we go in that
35:39
space too it's just it's a very singular
35:42
business R&B music is and I'm not saying
35:46
that you have to do this it's not your
35:49
responsibility I'm just saying I'm just
35:51
spotlighting and highlighting the person
35:54
that I can say that kind of changed that
35:56
was Chris Brown Chris Brown salute to
35:59
Chris Brown I mean like like I'm talking
36:02
about if Chris likes a record he hopping
36:04
on the record he's not calling his
36:05
manager asking the manager if they like
36:08
the record he's not calling the label
36:09
saying you
36:11
know will y'all clear it it's like no no
36:14
no no no Chris going to clear it if he
36:16
does
36:17
it he may charge a fee he may not and to
36:21
me that is just a different type of
36:23
that's a different type of mindset that
36:25
in my opinion is helping R&B music and
36:27
that I wished more R&B artists would but
36:30
there is a responsibility to that
36:32
because now it's like you know when you
36:33
do shoot that I mean when you do make
36:35
that record now you got to shoot that
36:36
video now you got to do a little promo
36:38
for it now you now you may have to bring
36:39
somebody on stage with you everybody
36:41
don't want somebody on stage with them
36:43
so now we go back to the group you see
36:45
my transition I see that yeah this dude
36:47
been podcasting got good at this [ __ ]
36:50
okay come bring us walk you my oo that's
36:52
why I gota do this with you yeah walk me
36:53
walk me man but now you know there
36:57
they're screaming for more than just you
37:00
on that stage now when we start talking
37:02
about the
37:03
group so now you know you talking about
37:06
a guy that's in the group that's like
37:07
damn I could sing his parts now you turn
37:08
into choir
37:10
boy oh yeah I know Eddie ain't here
37:12
tonight but uh you know I know all his
37:13
parts now you tur to him or you tur into
37:17
him at the party after when you just
37:19
flat out line talk yeah that's me up
37:21
there you know I write all the songs I
37:22
put this thing together [ __ ] you ain't
37:24
wrote no
37:25
songs but that's what happen in these
37:28
groups though
37:30
because this whole time they're still
37:33
fighting for that one woman and and I
37:35
use the woman in as a metaphor yeah yeah
37:38
for all things that come from this thing
37:41
because you know it's why we get our
37:44
haircut that's why I spend money on this
37:46
dumb ass watch the woman you know what
37:49
I'm saying like I ain't doing this you
37:52
it's so funny when I I I see certain
37:53
things now it's like oh yeah you know I
37:55
do it for me man
37:57
and y'all lying mhm they don't even do
38:01
it for themselves no man they do it for
38:03
the woman they do it for the woman which
38:06
is a metaphor for all things for all you
38:08
know what I mean you know for that
38:10
feeling uhhuh we do it for the feeling
38:12
but I think what happens is the groups
38:15
it starts to turn into like okay what's
38:17
the
38:18
split who wrote the songs are we going
38:21
to you know if if you're the writer in
38:23
the in the group if you're Paul
38:25
McCartney are you just splitting with
38:28
Ringo who don't write songs mhm because
38:32
honestly you probably should so that
38:34
y'all can all have you know this pot to
38:37
to pull from and this pie that y'all
38:40
never have to argue over because it's
38:41
like you know what bro we all did this
38:43
together that's why I hear songwriters
38:45
sometimes where they're like oh you know
38:47
I wrote this song for such and such and
38:49
they wanted a
38:50
percentage well is that song what it is
38:53
without Beyonce or without Usher
38:58
listen Usher listen if Usher sings one
39:00
of my songs Usher can have a piece even
39:02
if you don't if if he don't ask for a
39:04
piece of the publishing or not you will
39:06
offer it to him come on man you Usher
39:07
bro yeah you need you need 15 you need
39:10
25 we G to chop that up cuz I know what
39:13
you're going to do with this record y I
39:15
know where you're going to take this
39:17
record ain't too many of us been on the
39:20
Super Bowl nah mhm Usher been on the
39:23
Super Bowl Usher took R&B music to the
39:25
Super Bowl MH and dead it right most
39:28
viewed oh my God I I hit him I hit I I
39:31
dm'd him while he was
39:35
performing just to react
39:38
directly the DM said killed that
39:43
[ __ ] 30 seconds later did he ever
39:46
respond yeah he responded he responded
39:48
shout out to ush man was amazing
39:49
absolutely I I'm not I'm not I'm I'm
39:52
going to give you your flowers yeah I
39:54
have no problem I know who I am as a man
39:57
no problem celebrating something that
39:59
somebody does you know what I mean same
40:02
way come on man Jay Valentine I'm I'm
40:04
I'm giving I'm I'm giving it up if you
40:06
do something great in my
40:07
eyes I'm saluting you how did you end up
40:11
managing tank I told him I was going to
40:13
manage you that's it well we started as
40:17
writing and production Partners we met
40:18
through The Underdogs mhm so The
40:22
Underdogs if you're not familiar we were
40:24
a writing and production team in the
40:26
early 2000
40:28
who we pretty much wrote 90% of R&B in
40:32
the early 2000s 90% listen listen
40:35
because 112 everybody we were writing so
40:38
many like if you came through if you if
40:40
you got a record deal they sent you to
40:41
the underdogs like this is this is real
40:44
[ __ ] but it was also maybe 12 13 of us
40:50
like we were a machine we were we were
40:52
mtown without the record label okay you
40:54
know what I'm saying like we were
40:55
Holland Doan Holland we were you know
40:57
what I'm saying we were all of that in
41:00
one building and um Damon Thomas and
41:05
Harvey Mason Jr is who initially it
41:08
started with with with myself it was us
41:11
three it started off with us three our
41:12
first record was I like them girls for
41:14
Tyrese and then we just we went on a run
41:17
and from that point you got tank you got
41:20
Tony Dixon Eric Dawkins James fontleroy
41:23
who did all of thec yeah like Rob Knox
41:27
uh who does all the Justin Timberlake
41:29
stuff um Eric Dawkins from Dawkins and
41:31
Dawkins who wrote like how you going to
41:33
act like
41:34
that and had little Ronnie who did SAR
41:38
2004 it was it was insane and then and
41:42
then there were just you know other
41:43
people and other writers that were
41:44
coming in with us too during this time
41:47
and that's how I met tank I met tank
41:49
through through Damon Damon was like yo
41:51
you know cuz I had come back I left you
41:54
I left the game I left I didn't leave
41:56
the game I left the production team okay
41:59
um you know I I talked about on my
42:01
podcast I was young they didn't want to
42:03
make me a partner they wanted to give me
42:06
you know a side percentage but didn't
42:08
want to make me an equal partner which
42:09
as I grew up in the business I learned
42:11
why for me it was more I just had Sweat
42:14
Equity more so than I could afford to
42:16
put into what they were doing I didn't
42:18
understand at the time but later on I
42:20
was like okay you know maybe they could
42:23
have but since they didn't I'm not going
42:24
to hold a grudge to that cuz that's
42:26
business-wise it just didn't make sense
42:28
to them I'm 18 19 years old they're
42:30
already you know close to 30 if not 30
42:33
they grown men and I don't got no bread
42:36
all I got is my talent so I end up
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leaving and going into doing in sync
42:43
literally in the next week you went from
42:46
leaving them to riding for in sync
42:49
yeah how did they feel about that um I
42:52
mean I I you know when I got my money I
42:55
drove back in my big car and my you know
42:58
and I just did me but we were always
42:59
Partners man it wasn't like it was no
43:01
issues it was just like you know Jay
43:03
went off and did his own thing and you
43:06
know ins sync goes off and sells almost
43:08
two million records in the first
43:11
week and I think it's at maybe nine or
43:16
10 times Platinum now I like how he does
43:18
that you see how he does that the reason
43:21
why I don't know seriously don't know is
43:23
because for a long time and it goes back
43:26
to me talking about maybe I should order
43:27
my plaque I didn't order
43:29
plaques I wanted to feel unaccomplished
43:31
MH to keep you hungry I wanted to keep
43:33
my walls white mhm so the first plaque I
43:37
got that someone actually gave me which
43:39
I still didn't order I put it in my
43:41
bathroom
43:43
wow wow where you [ __ ]
43:48
right a that where the [ __ ] goes where
43:50
the [ __ ] goes what songs you write for
43:53
him s uh I wrote a song called celebrity
43:55
which was the title song damn
43:58
you wrot celebrity damn yeah they named
44:00
a whole project over that from the bay
44:03
yo the bay need to know these things
44:06
yeah myself myself Justin and uh Wade
44:09
Robinson Wade
44:11
Robinson you put it's no it's no I in
44:14
his name Robson Robson he's he's from
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Australia
44:20
man wasn't Wade in u y in quo quo wasn't
44:26
he in um You Got Served that he was in
44:29
they made the movie around him and then
44:33
yeah yeah yeah we were we were writing
44:35
production Partners at that time thought
44:36
you were going to say if he was in
44:37
Britney
44:39
Spirits man what time is it almost guess
44:43
why username
44:47
Bry you go ahead and ask that question
44:49
you get us out of go I'mma stay I'mma
44:51
stay out in white people business man go
44:55
ahead well J we I wanted to to zoom in
44:59
on writing okay because the
45:02
conversations we have about writing in
45:04
armb are very different from the
45:06
conversations we have about writing in
45:09
Hip Hop I know where this is going when
45:10
R&B artists collaborate is simply called
45:14
a writer if a hip-hop artist has other
45:17
folks he's collaborated with is called
45:19
or her it's called a ghost right you see
45:23
multiple names under a song title is
45:26
accepted if it's a R&B song multiple
45:28
names under a song title for hip hop is
45:31
looked like looked at with suspicion
45:34
okay what is your understanding of the
45:36
difference and is that difference
45:39
necessary for both genres I
45:43
think the
45:45
term right because an R&B singer is
45:48
considered an R&B artist a rapper is a
45:53
rapper it's very it's very seldom they
45:55
say rap artists they don't really do
45:57
that right they say rapper so there are
46:00
different rules to being a rapper from
46:02
what I know I've never been a rapper but
46:05
all the rules I've ever heard were if
46:07
you're a rapper you got to write your
46:09
raps am I correct yeah so far so true
46:12
hiop room hiop a hip hop room 100%
46:16
accurate it's always that has always
46:19
been uh the code right if we go to the
46:22
streets there's a code to the streets if
46:23
you're in the streets you can't take the
46:25
stand if you're a civilian it's like hey
46:28
that's that's somebody auntie and
46:30
Grandmama you you did that crime or you
46:32
hurt somebody in her
46:34
family the rules are different for her
46:36
but if you in the streets you can't be
46:38
in there talking about yes sir and yes
46:40
ma'am right so that's that's what we
46:43
have from the street side of it to the
46:45
to the music side of it so I think I
46:48
will take the R&B side as more of the
46:50
civilians we are the civilians and you
46:52
can you can go get you a record from the
46:54
Auntie right I'm to make it all make
46:57
sense right so but I think as an
47:02
artist right and I and I know who this
47:04
is geared toward I've always looked at
47:07
that man as an
47:09
artist and that's why he's had the
47:12
success that he's had because he's been
47:13
able to look at himself as an artist we
47:16
talking about Drake I did not say a name
47:19
I'm just saying the situation just a
47:22
little Clarity that's all my bad but yes
47:24
I I've always looked at Drake as an
47:26
artist okay right I I didn't really look
47:28
at Drake as like the rapper rapper guy
47:30
which he may look at himself as that but
47:32
as a fan because I'm still a fan yeah I
47:34
buy music as as is all of us same some
47:37
people ain't fans bro some people yeah
47:40
yeah some what I've learned in this
47:41
business is that some people are not
47:43
fans yeah they are not fans what are
47:46
they I don't know I don't really know
47:48
what to call them cuz I don't really use
47:50
the whole hater thing uhhuh um but I
47:53
just don't think that they're fans man
47:55
they like they listen to the music and
47:56
they listen to it with a different mind
47:59
um I cuz I've also never been the guy
48:01
who sees someone and says I want their
48:05
life or what they have I literally
48:08
celebrate it as a fan like oh that's
48:11
great that you can do a triple back flip
48:13
I'll never be able to do that and I'm
48:14
cool with that same thing like people
48:17
they talk to me about with tank man I'll
48:19
never be able to sing like tank
48:22
ever I will admit that flat out and that
48:25
is not a knock to me in my voice that
48:28
[ __ ] just different yeah some people
48:31
are just different Usher different Chris
48:33
different AR Kelly different like these
48:36
guys are just they have something about
48:39
them that's special but I'll go back to
48:41
the writer thing so within writing as a
48:44
as an R&B
48:46
artist you should try to get the best
48:48
songs possible okay so if someone can
48:52
bring you songs
48:55
that help tell your story at this stage
48:58
of your life you better take them songs
49:00
because hit records don't come they
49:02
don't come every day they do not come
49:05
every day and if the rappers want to
49:07
continue to believe
49:10
that they might be asking how can I help
49:14
you with pump you want 20 on oh my gosh
49:18
I can't believe he just that's true
49:21
though you why they got to be a gas
49:24
station because because what happens is
49:26
we put so much time into this skill that
49:29
we don't we don't really develop other
49:31
skills so if you don't have this you
49:34
might be pumping gas so hip hop would
49:36
benefit from more artists absolutely
49:39
absolutely to me right that's just my
49:41
opinion though meaning that if we
49:43
embraced more collaboration it would it
49:45
would it would help with
49:48
longevity cuz we going we you going to
49:50
run out bro like what's keeping me young
49:53
is my
49:54
kids my kids keep me young my son I walk
49:57
by his room and I sometimes it makes my
50:00
head hurt I'm like what the hell is this
50:03
and then I'm like why does he like
50:06
this oh that struck a court for him so
50:09
now me as the songwriter now I am
50:12
mindful when I'm writing songs of what
50:14
connects cuz the world the other part
50:17
that artists get caught up in the world
50:19
don't stop with you nah no it does not
50:23
stop oh yeah you know I'mma put it out
50:24
when I feel like okay I'm talking to
50:27
myself now okay kind of [ __ ] you
50:29
said right but I am I am a self-reflect
50:33
m i i i know when I'm on [ __ ] you
50:37
know what I mean um and I admit it but
50:40
and I've been there but for me I've just
50:42
been able to Pivot differently than most
50:46
artists where my man Jay Valentine is
50:49
here man this is amazing now we got we
50:51
got have to come back cuz he don't do
50:52
this so I didn't want to ask him
50:54
everything so I could get him to commit
50:56
to back and doing a part two for the
50:58
sequ it's a whole lot of other stuff I
51:00
was going to ask but I just like hearing
51:01
him talk I've never seen him do an
51:03
interview like you know other been being
51:05
on the other side now hey huh what's it
51:07
like on the other side it's I like it
51:09
bro yeah I like it I like it
51:11
because I I feel like I like it because
51:15
I've I feel like I've we not I we have
51:18
created a safe SP a safe pa uh space for
51:22
the artist yeah you have yeah we not we
51:24
not on the foolishness bro I'm not I'm
51:26
not about click blade at all like and I
51:30
think because we came into podcasting or
51:33
the media space that's what I would say
51:35
we're we're in the media space we came
51:37
into the media space already
51:40
accomplished and already being able to
51:43
pay for our
51:46
lifestyle so it wasn't like we want we
51:48
were going to come into this space you
51:50
guys space just for a bag cuz we could
51:53
have got a super bag if we just talked
51:56
about all the foolishness cuz I see it
51:58
and I know it yeah you know what I mean
52:00
I was at some of it mhm you know what I
52:02
mean I was in some of it maybe you know
52:06
what I mean he said at but I was at you
52:09
know what I mean but you know listen if
52:10
you know I might have been I might have
52:12
been a participation you know I mean you
52:14
know I mean but could have happened
52:16
could have happened right but I didn't I
52:19
didn't want us and we didn't want us to
52:21
to be in in that space cuz that's not
52:23
who we are as as as humans outside of
52:26
this thing thing you know you guys all
52:27
know us I've been up in here with tank
52:29
where I be all the way or maybe even
52:32
walk outside yeah yeah scar of the mic
52:35
right
52:36
and that's who we just are as people
52:39
when I come in here I'm I'm going to say
52:40
hello to everyone everybody has the same
52:42
you know as the same level for me you
52:45
know as as a person like I got I just
52:46
have respect for people so I wouldn't
52:49
get into this space where I know we got
52:52
this Spotlight and we got this platform
52:55
that's becoming a really important and
52:56
huge
52:57
platform and do some [ __ ] I love it
53:00
Jay Valentine R&B money
53:03
Tank new single Chris Brown
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