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hi everyone I'm Kelly ooro and this is
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adaptable Behavior explained hi
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everybody thank you so much for tuning
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in today to adaptable I'm Kelly and I'm
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really excited to have you here today to
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talk about parenting as a single person
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I've got with me Christina egara uh she
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is a licensed associate counselor that
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works with me and she is a rock star and
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friend and I'm so happy to have you here
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so welcome thanks for being here thank
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you Kelly thank you tell me tell me a
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little bit about yourself and why this
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topic is uh one that you you feel
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passionate about well I think with the
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The Passion of it is it it I'm living it
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every single day this is the life that I
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have as a single parent I I'm a mom of
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four kids who range from 9 11 13 and an
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almost 15y old and so three boys and a
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girl and it's just utter chaos in our in
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our household um and it wasn't planned
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so I met their father when I was in the
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Marines he was a marine as well uh
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stationed in Tucson and you know we we
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dated we got married we had children
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we're together for a significant number
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of years and as things sometimes do we
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changed and so the relationship just
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wasn't what it was originally and we
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just didn't have that connection anymore
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and so we later separated divorced and
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the kids now are primarily in my care so
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just it is Passion because it's my kids
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it directly involves my family right and
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and and you know just thinking about
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what that looks like I I too have five
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kids U most of their life I raised four
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um and I felt tired just hearing you say
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those age ranges when I was thinking
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about my history and now that I'm Nester
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I mean I really Revel in the quiet and I
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Revel in just not having someone have
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something wrong or need something all
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the time because it's just constantly
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and chronically taxing and it's and it's
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almost always stressful you know and I
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thought about it when I had my kids not
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any one of them was really difficult or
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hard or Troublesome but it was like they
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took turns having an issue and and
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because of that there was always
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something demanded by me and so when I
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think about that and what you're
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currently going through you know when it
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comes to managing stress what are some
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things that you you know you know you
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have to do to manage the stress of it
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because it's chronic and it's constant
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so I would say the first and foremost
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the most important thing is to be
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adaptable being rigid as a single parent
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is just not going to suffice that is a
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really great path to burnout um and so
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being flexible being able to to
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compromise where you know maybe you had
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plans and you had you know an interview
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or maybe you had um an appointment if
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the appointment can be moved because
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there's you know an emergency with one
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of your children really children take
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precedence because they didn't have a
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say in the matter so you really put
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their priorities ahead of yours in that
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in that way but then after being
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adaptable I would say resource social
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network uh build your community like it
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is just it's not an Avenue that I don't
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think anyone can really do alone right
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um well that's something that I remember
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as part of your Evolution and our
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relationship at infinite and you know
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you had this stance when I met you like
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I have no one I have to do it by myself
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and part of our culture and our
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community with infinite is that you know
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we really want to be a work family that
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you can rely on and that's true and
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that's authentic and it's not to say
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that we're not going to have
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requirements that are part of our
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ethical professional guidelines but it
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it's to say that first you're a human
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and I've seen a growth in you with being
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more transparent more willing to lean in
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and you know even just reflecting on our
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recent supervision uh you know will you
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tell the tell our audience what you said
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when you came in like the first I said
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how are you doing yeah so I did get my
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children's permission to tell this story
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but it has been one thing after another
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since the start of school and you know
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know unfortunately three out of four of
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my kids have gotten some consequences
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and then our oven caught fire and then
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our dishwasher stopped working my car
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broke down right before we went to the
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retreat and I remember coming in I feel
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like your AC had just gone out not that
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long ago AB yep it's just when it rains
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it pours and I just remember telling you
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you know because you do have to be able
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to have a sense of humor is I need a
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welcome at that just says welcome to the
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show just that's what it is right
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lean into the chaos lean into you know
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the jungle of of highs and lows es and
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flows and you know you might have those
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pockets of of calm but there are few and
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far between when you're a single parent
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and a single parent of multiples
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especially so right someone always kind
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of needs something and you're and that's
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while still managing the stressors of
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just adulting which you know lately
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there's so many funny memes about
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adulting and I don't want to and it's
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and and I think I couldn't
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agree more you know some days you just
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wake up and you're just like damn yeah I
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got do this like Groundhogs Day right
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like again today all the things and it
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never stops right I can remember that
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when I poor my poor kids I had a magnet
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on my fridge when they were young that
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said raising children is like being
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pecked to death by a chicken and I know
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that that was probably in sensitive but
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it is how it felt as a mother and so um
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you know hindsight 2020 that was
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probably not a really nurturing magnet
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to have I wasn't a therapist at the time
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I was I was a different kind of person
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and I hadn't yet started therapy so it
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was just way more say it like it is
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without the nuances of uh worrying about
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how that might land for for those who
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walked by it every day while they made
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their breakfast and read it you know
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like I'm a burden I'm a burden I'm like
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shoot I don't know why I was putting
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that on the fridge but but you know that
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to say the other thing that I think
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comes up and I know you can only speak
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as a single mother as opposed to a
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single dad but as a single mother you
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know especially you with all of your
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training and knowledge and and
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everything with development what's it
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like to navigate those moments of
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confidence issues and like how do you
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how do you deal with those moments of
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self-doubt and and do you have any
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specific ones you would be willing to
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share with us yeah so that's a that's a
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really good question um first I want to
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honor that you know there are times many
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times where you're going to question
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yourself as as a single mom a single
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parent um that's why they have dark
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chocolate and wine and locks on the
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closet door right so you can find
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yourself doubled over crying and just
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wishing yeah and so you know once you
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get past that that little bit of you
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know wo is me type you know honor that
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moment you it's it's about saying what
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can I do now what's within my control
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and how do I honor myself and reassure
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myself that I'm doing the best that I
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can possibly do because there are going
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to be things outside of our control
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raising humans who are their own
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individual people they're going to make
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their own choices and so the hardest
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thing as much as I tried to program mine
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to be the way I thought they should be
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that all is a big huge joke I mean you
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think that you have control and it's
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just this fun little farce that you tell
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yourself you have any control imagining
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if I just say it one time they'll listen
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and they'll listen with a smile on their
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face they say sure thing mom right away
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yeah that's so so funny and cute and so
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you have to honor where they're at too
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and and really going back to
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adaptability and being resilient in that
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way is you know if your children make
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mistakes that's part of life and the
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beautiful thing is that they get to make
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those mistakes with you as a child sure
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rather than an adult where the
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repercussions may be more severe so
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saying you know hey this is what
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happened maybe you did something at
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school you didn't do your homework you
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maybe did an unkind thing to another
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student maybe they talked back to you
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because they're also going through their
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own thing it's it's giving space it's
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saying okay I'm feeling something coming
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up in me I'm seeing something come up in
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you we're going to take a break how
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about 10 minutes or maybe we Circle back
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tomorrow because this is it's it's hard
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and especially if you're living in that
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family system you know and if you don't
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really have very many people to defer to
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it's constant it's constant interaction
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constant um triggering right you know
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it's it's kind of like when you think
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about atoms and how they're just kind of
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those molecules moving around and Stu
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that's a great metaphor for a family
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system and sometimes yeah they bounce
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off of one another and there's not
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really a rhyme or a reason often times
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that's predictable for sure yeah
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honoring those I would say and then
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having something that's just for you so
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whether that's a hobby whether it's
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connecting with friends even I have a
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couple of friends that every four to six
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months I see it's not often but you know
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what we pick up where we left off and we
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kind of give each other the rundown of
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like the the house is on fire you know
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the chaos that's going on in the
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background and then it's
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you know it's being validated it's being
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felt and it's you a lot of people don't
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like the word pity but it's actually a
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synonym for compassion and we have to
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have compassion for self when is
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just hard and especially when we didn't
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do anything to cause it and we're still
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there to weather the storm and so we
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have to sit down we have to have our
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pity party we have to cry we have to
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take our moments and also reaching out
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and cultivating connection with others
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if not for the solution just to be felt
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in that space is so necessary and and
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really really helpful to have somewhere
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to download absolutely even I have a
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friend who she lives out of state and we
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send memes back and forth and that's our
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love language you know but it's a way
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for us to connect and you know get out
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what it is that we're going through and
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having someone in your corner in that
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way that you know maybe isn't present
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but they're rooting for you that can
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speak volumes as well and that can give
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great capacity for waking up every day
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and saying oh I have to attend the
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show again right yeah here we go yeah
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right and and we're going to fall short
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we're going to make mistakes and you
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mentioned before you know when your kids
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mess up showing up with Grace showing up
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with you know an opportunity to model
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imperfections expected if not certain
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and and that we need to be able to give
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them room yeah to fall down and to make
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mistakes and to model for them
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acceptance unconditional acceptance even
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when they make mistakes and so of course
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it's harder when we get stuck in that
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perfectionism Loop when we're a parent
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and especially like I said before you
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know you you you've read the books you
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know the rules and yet you're still
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human with that amydala that gets
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activated because of the stimulus in
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your home and the interactions and the
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conflict and all of those things and so
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how do you deal with personally those
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moments of where we fall down you know
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in Bernay Brown's work we're in the
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arena for you you're in the arena of
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parenting every day all day there's no
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reprieve from that and when we fall down
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we're going to get our ass kicked we're
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going to we're going to fall short we're
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going to have those times of mistakes
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and and problems what do you do to
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navigate those moments of falling short
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or the mistakes so I think you know
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before doing that it's about cultivating
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a certain type of uh culture within your
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family system as well and I'll be honest
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you know ber has that Netflix special
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and I am a big proponent of educating my
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children and talking about what it is
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that we're feeling what we're going
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through what we're experiencing say
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being vulnerable opening up ourselves to
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trusting others even though it feels
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hard and so giving them that verbage
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really allowed me to just let them in
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when I'm feeling a certain way and say
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hey right mom's not on her game today
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you know I might have snapped at you
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this morning or I might have you know
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walked away when you were talking to me
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because I just felt this overwhelming
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sense of just utter chaos internal chaos
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right but that has nothing to do with
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you it's what's going on of me I love
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you we'll talk about it in a minute you
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know or when I'm settled and so I think
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when we're talking about how do we move
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through when we mess up just name it
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right just name it I think there's
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nothing better that a parent can
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do then own their mistakes take full
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accountability when they blow it mean it
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come in with some humility model for
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them you know what I'm just you know I'm
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just human I'm doing the best that I can
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I know that I fell short and you do
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deserve better and I'm going to keep
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working on it and I think that kids are
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so incredibly resilient and they see the
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humanness in us they see more than
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anybody else sees our kids know they
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know what we're going through and as
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much as we try to protect we don't think
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so yeah they know better I always say to
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my clients I'm like you want to know
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what's really going on in the family
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give me some time with that kid they'll
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tell you everything abolutely and
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they're honest and they and they see it
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so when you think about that and just
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giving them space to be the humans that
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they are and then also it models maybe
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they can give you the grace to be the
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human that you are yeah and and uh
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cultivate that self-acceptance and that
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positive regard for self I think is is
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probably the most primary the primarily
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the most important thing we can do for a
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kid yeah and recognizing that if you
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have multiple children or wherever you
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know stage in life your child is they
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may not be able to like authentically
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give it to you the way that you want
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them to so understanding that there's a
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growth there and evolution of that skill
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set but if you implement it early on and
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you really you support it and you
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reaffirm it and you talk about it often
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and you invite them into conversation
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you know I I feel like there's such a
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disconnect you know in families a little
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bit just because of social media and one
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of our rules in our household is it it's
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my children don't access social media in
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our household because I want that human
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connection with them so easy to escape
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and um it it's not it's not
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useful invisible musles that we need to
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to navigate life they don't grow they
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don't stretch and part of part of that
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is the discomfort you know is like I'm
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really mad at you mom because you didn't
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show up for me the way that I wanted to
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good tell me express yourself you know
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in a respectful way don't get too big
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for your britches but sure but you know
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open up that dialogue and be like I'm so
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glad you came to me with this and if you
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feel triggered say hey I need a minute
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you know I'm going to process what
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you've just told me and we'll Circle
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back right it's hard especially as a
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single parent because you know you are
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so alone with it and and we just all
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want to be seen so bad as humans and so
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when when they're coming at you with the
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things you're doing wrong and
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you're I'm trying so hard you know and
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it's hard not to feel defensive it's
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hard not to feel like you know prove
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yourself and and share all the name all
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the things that you're doing that they
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don't see that you're doing you don't
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know what it's like you know and it's we
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really need to try hard to refrain from
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that CU it's really not their job to
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understand that and and also they didn't
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put themselves in this situation this
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they're just by standards in the
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situation so so another thing that's
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really important that we discuss is just
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creating attachment and when you have a
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lot of children uh I always talk to
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clients about when there's a family of
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multiples which you're discussing which
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I had you know there's only two boobs
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two eyes two hands the touch is limited
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because you're just one resource and so
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often times it's really tricky to
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provide all of the moments that create
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and cultivate secure attachment in a
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child especially when there's so many
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and then doubling down on that and
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you're by yourself most of the time so
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when you think about secure attachment
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what are what are some tips and tricks
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you can give our audience and things
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maybe that you do that help to to to sew
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those moments plant those seeds of
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secure attachment as best as you can so
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you're right when you have multiples
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those moments are going to be few and
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far between right so it's about making
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those moments as best as they possibly
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can quality right just connecting and
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bonding without expectation and so I
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would say as long as you have a schedule
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or a routine that's consistent you are
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now creating security for your children
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you're creating something that's
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reliable so even if you aren't having
16:46
those moments of like heart-to-heart
16:47
conversations that's something that they
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can return to and look at and be like
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you know Mom or Dad they really created
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a safe place for me and things that I
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could rely on so you know the wool was
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pulled out from you know under me and
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and so there's that and then you know
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something that my kids and I do we play
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board games and you know I did try to
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play Monopoly with with them once and it
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ended in tears I'm pretty sure I have a
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picture family stories of trauma and
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Monopoly I think a terrible that one
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away for now it's a opposite reaction
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what I was hoping for like breeds you
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know greed and like yeah it's a an
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interesting game but I think that's
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great and that's a family group uh of
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connection but I think it's also really
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important that we try to carve out time
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oneon-one with our kids and creating
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special moments and and activities or uh
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patterns of behavior that are
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predictable with each kid and it may be
17:44
something different maybe this kid you
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tuck in in this way and that kid you do
17:49
something special in the morning that's
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just for them and I know that it's hard
17:53
but if you if you schedule and then you
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have more intentional time with how you
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move through the day I think that it can
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be done even in small moment abely
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absolutely so with my youngest before we
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go to bed each night we play whle and he
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helps me with whle and we do this the
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the New York spelling list the cross
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word it takes about 10 minutes how old
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is he he's nine awesome and so that's
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kind of a twofer words vocabulary
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quality time yep and then my daughter
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she loves you know anime she loves
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drawing she's actually a very talented
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gifted artist and so you know she'll sit
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with me and give me lessons and I let
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her teach me how to draw that's cool my
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very analytical and so we can get into
18:40
like debates and stuff and I think
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that's his love language is having that
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kind of interaction where it's you can
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challenge intellectually and so we'll
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talk about you know uh the news of the
18:50
day things that are current events and
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stuff like that um and then my middle
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son he's 11 and he's a little bit of a
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he's an anomaly he's really hard to
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pinpoint so we do a bunch of different
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things we we we toss the football around
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together you know we'll talk about his
19:08
favorite he is into anime too we'll talk
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about anime even if I feel like oh my
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God I'm so I'm anime out you know but
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and then he'll talk about his friends at
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school because he really has a heart of
19:19
gold and that means something to him um
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and so it's it's and he likes to cook so
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the other day he helped make spaghetti
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you know and that's it's just something
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simple and doesn't really have to be
19:29
these wellth thought out moments because
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I think when we just let it be organic
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that's going to be more meaningful sure
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so we have so much to talk about and I I
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really think that I want to dig in uh to
19:43
some other topics that are more tricky
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in in our in our second part so we we
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have a part two for this this show okay
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um and I just I really thank you for
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showing up today to talk about this
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topic you know we went we're going to go
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a little deeper in part two but
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hopefully this gives our listeners some
20:03
nuts and bolts about normalizing the
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things that we all go through as as
20:07
parents but then doubling down on the
20:09
single parent thing it's it's it's twice
20:12
as hard and half as supported and so I
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really appreciate your cander and your
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vulnerability and sharing with us today
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in um in part one of this uh series on
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single parenting so thank you no thank
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you Kelly yes uh I hope that you found
20:26
this helpful I I will uh encourage you
20:29
to tune in to part two as we've got a
20:31
lot more to offer for this topic and it
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really is an area where support is
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needed so I commend you for watching
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today because we really can't do it
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alone and and uh these resources
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hopefully will help make it a little bit
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easier so uh until we meet again don't
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forget to lead with love it'll never