00:00 - Introduction
02:26 - Morgan - Finding Love With Curtis
09:52 - Sydney - Finding Her Identity & Dating
17:38 - Joyce - Discovering She Was Intersex At 14
24:50 - Siera - Dating & Intersex 'Taboo'
32:15 - Jyoti - Dating Without Sex Organs
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I was born an intersex woman and that is when you're born with female and male parts
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People think sometimes my husband is gay because I'm intersex. Someone said that's a man we know
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girl go seek help, dude in a dress with a gut. That was when I was pregnant
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Get ready with me to go on a date with my friend's roommate
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I am Sydney. I'm 24 years old. I'm a tiktoker and an intersex person
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Biological sex is not a binary and I am living proof of that
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It's going to be nice to go on a date with Sydney, based off of what I know, okay
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But you just never know how these things are going to turn out. I plan on telling him that I'm intersex, like, pretty quickly
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Because the longer I wait, the more nervous I get about it
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I was 14 years old when I discovered that I was an intersex person
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I had to do an ultrasound to look at my female reproductive organs
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and the doctor told me that he couldn't see anything. I immediately started crying
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I didn't want to date boys at that point because it's scary to just tell them I was an intersex person
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My current boyfriend has never been together a year. My mother, she was very cautious at the beginning
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She did always know I wanted to have kids. So she was like, are you sure
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I am both male and female. I have XY chromosomes, but I'm a woman
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At 16 years old, I hadn't started puberty. And so when I went to see the doctor, I learned I was intersex
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When the doctors explained to us that they found no ovaries, it was kind of a shock
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I knew from a young age that I wouldn't be able to have kids, but that didn't really
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stress me out too much until I started dating. Today I'm going on a blind date and I'm nervous to see what my date will think about me being intersex
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So is having kids like something you see for yourself and your future? Everyone just assumes I'm female, but there's a little more to that
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The last guy I told about my condition, he said that was like a deal breaker
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It can be kind of awkward at first. I need someone who can converse with. Yeah
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What are you making, honey? Chicken and rice. Oh, yummy. I'm Morgan and Leah
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And I'm Curtis Williams. People always make the wrong assumptions about our relationship
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They have a lot of opinions, unfair opinions. We met on the dating app, and I was at work, and he reached out to me, and I was just so having on break
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And I replied to his message. We met after work, and we literally just talked all night long
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He was very polite, just a gentleman, and that's what first attracted me to him
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We met on a Monday. On a Friday, we were engaged. I would say we get a lot of love and a lot of hate
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Yeah. Some people that don't agree with us, but a home is a lover, that's all that matters
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I was born a homophrodite, an intersex woman, and that is when you're born with female and
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male parts. I do have ovaries. I have the same full on everything
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and you can either conceive or you can get someone pregnant. It's weird, but it's how I was born
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I've come to love it. Growing up, my mom, she raised me as her son
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And it was tough with that because I felt forced. I felt like I was kind of pretending to be something that I didn't feel
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I just felt more woman. So she raised me as her son
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up until I was able to go to college and live on campus
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And that's when I found more of my woman and really just grew as Morgan and Leah
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All right. You can look at some photos. This is me when I was little
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I think I was like one or two. Okay. And that's my mom
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That was me. School pictures. The guy that was taking my picture of, I think a booger dropped out of his nose, and that's why I made that
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And that was my picture for the next three years. Growing up, I didn't feel like I really fit in with just anybody, girl or a boy
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and yeah it wasn't until I got into my adult years when I was able to go to the doctor on my own
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and do more research and learn to embrace my woman and me. I thought she was a catfish
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and she thought the same thing about me. Yes I did. I thought she pretty I got to talk to her I didn't think she was going to take us back
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We met for the first time after she told me, right? Yeah
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And we just talked, got to know each other a little bit more. I just explained to him my, you know, my body
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I was cool with it. I'm not judgmental and everything. And I said, yeah, that's me
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People think that he's attracted to males, but he's not. he's just okay with me being different and understanding that I do have both parts that I
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am more feminine than anything else I like this one yeah so a few of the comments that I've
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received someone said that's a man we know and someone said girl go seek help
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dude in a dress with a gut that was when I was pregnant
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My experience with pregnancy, we found out when we moved to a new city, I was in shock
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We were really excited. We prayed for that baby and we tried to..
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I'm getting emotional, sorry. Went to different doctors. I got turned down at multiple different clinics
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Most doctors were like, we can refer you here, but we can't see you
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And to be pregnant and to not get help, to not get checkups, you know, it was just a lot going on
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I was nauseous, had very bad pains, and we did lose our baby
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and it was just yeah it was just a lot to do with that
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we have our chance again with parenthood I guess God just was not ready for us to be parents
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A lot of people doubted, you know, that I was intersex. People would say like, oh, those are two men
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A lot of people doubted that we've been together for real. People have doubted that my pregnancy was fake
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People were saying, oh, she just has a beer belly, or how can this be
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My belly did not look the same. The things I went through weren't the same
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The way the baby was going to be birthed wasn't going to be the same. I was going to have to get a C-section
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A lot of people have reached out to me, you know, telling me that they're also intersex
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and by me speaking up has allowed them to feel heard, allowed them to feel like they matter
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And, like, my story really just helped a lot of people kind of come out the closet with hiding
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Everyone has their own opinion. There's miserable people in the world, and misery loves company
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We will come a lot. I feel like it's definitely brought us closer
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We just get stronger and stronger every day. Ready? Yes. OK, let's ride, Clyde
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I feel like God wanted me to share my experience, and it opened doors for so many people like me, you know
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to know, like, you can get pregnant. It's possible to have a baby. I'm glad to be here with my beautiful wife
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and I enjoy this day with you, baby. I love you. I love you, too. You know, I exist, and this is my story, you know
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He makes me feel safe. He makes me feel happy. it just makes you feel like
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I'm here, alive we don't want to give up on each other
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if people annoy me or don't like who I'm dating, I only
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can just annoy them and pray for them what was the spider on you
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sorry come on honey, smooches mwah, gotcha to death do us part
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like, this is gonna work for the rest of our life. There's so much that people don't understand
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about being intersex. Dating can be difficult. An ideal date is one where
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when no one says anything embarrassing, unfortunately, I've had a lot of dates
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where people say things that are close-minded. So any date that doesn't involve something like that
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is honestly good with me. Hi. How are you doing? I'm good. How are you
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Good. Good to see you. How's it going? It's going. Thank you
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Sometimes I am worried about how a date will react when I tell them that I'm intersex
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I think they try to visualize it and they try to reconcile what they see as a woman with this idea that they've just presented with that I am not
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The main reaction that I get is this pensive look and they just kind of go, huh
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Did Ely tell you that I'm intersex? She mentioned it a little bit
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Have you heard the word before? I've heard of it, but I still don't really know too much about it
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It means that I have characteristics that fall outside of the binary
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Like there are some things that aren't either male nor female when it comes to my hormones and my physical anatomy
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I didn't realize I was intersex until I was 17 years old. I was raised as a girl
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When I was around 15 years old, I decided to go to the doctor for severe cystic acne
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They were able to measure my hormones thinking that could be a contributing factor
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It was found that I had a heightened level of androgens, or what are sometimes called male hormones
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And so they prescribed me hormones for my acne to try to make me normal
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That's the very first time that I noticed that my body was different
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When I was 16 turning 17, I realized I didn't have an opening
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When I visited the gynecologist, they didn't really believe me. But when they finally looked and saw that there truly was no opening there, that it hadn't developed
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then they decided that it was time to do surgery. And that's what we proceeded with
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It felt like I had a proper body, like I'm getting closer to being the female that I was intended to be
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But I do wish that the word intersex had been uttered. I wish I knew why this was happening
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I wish they didn't treat it as an anomaly. Have you ever had any problems with that, like dating or anything
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No, I think it's pretty new. I know it's new that I'm being more honest about it
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And that's partially because in the past, I just viewed my intersex characteristics as flaws
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It isn't until recently that I'm realizing that I'm okay being honest with people about what it actually means to be intersex
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Well, that's good. I hope so. I think so. So the day went really well
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I think she's really nice, really cool. Kind of crazy that she found out about her being intersex at such a late age
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Can't really imagine what that'd be like. In my early 20s, I made friends in the queer community
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That's when I identified as intersex for the first time. I had a conversation with a friend who is transgender
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And they were like, huh, that's kind of like being transgender. I knew that that's not who I am, that I don't actually have a transgender experience
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So after hanging out with them, I googled what it means to have a body with these anatomical differences
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That's when I learned the word intersex. Hi. How's it going? Oh, mom's here too, I guess
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So, tell us, how was the day? How was it? I think the date was nice. He exceeded my expectations and being really thoughtful and easy to talk to
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I met Skeeter at Queer Coffee, which we do every week. Skeeter had seen one of my TikToks, I believe it was, and said
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Hey, Sydney, I didn't know you're intersex. I'm intersex too. And we traded stories about our different medical anomalies. It was so joyous
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I get people being curious. I find my own condition fascinating. but there's so much more about me than just like what's going on downstairs
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Call me a girl or a boy. I don't mind really. She, he, they or whatever
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I started my TikTok because I had some thoughts and feelings that I didn't feel like the people
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I was around understood. I decided to create a new community for myself. That was my idea at least
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and that's exactly what I got. TikTok has helped a lot too because I always have a community
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It's easy to have people to talk to. I think that's great, except it's really scary
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There are so many people out there with different opinions and there's a lot of haters
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And I worry about your safety. My mom is very anxious about me posting about being intersex I didn know that being intersex was controversial I didn know that people would suddenly be so curious about my body that they would call me a liar I do receive
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a lot of comments saying that I'm not actually intersex and it did honestly make me doubt myself
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in the beginning because I thought well am I just extrapolating here? Am I reaching? My mom is very
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protective of me. She really just tries to like let me know what the world is like so that I can be
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more protective of myself and careful of my surroundings. I think it's amazing that you
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you put your vulnerabilities out there however you're my baby and if I could put you in an armor suit and protect you that's what I want
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You're giving me quiver lips. Sorry. I just love you so much
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Should I worry? Sorry, Cindy. It's okay. I care a lot about educating
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That is a big motivator for me. I hope that my content continues to introduce the concept of what it means to be intersex to people
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I'll see you soon. Tell me tomorrow. Okay. I want them to have a place to go where they know they can get unbiased and accurate information
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Okay guys, let's go! I agree with my mom's concerns. I think there is a danger to speaking out about topics where people
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tend to be hateful and ignorant. But the best way that I can battle the difficulties that I face by
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being open about who I am is to continue to educate others. What Sydney is doing is kind of
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like showing people and teaching them that like hey this is different and it's okay to be this way
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It takes a lot of guts to just go publicly with this information. Life has changed tremendously
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since I began to identify as intersex. I've been a lot happier with myself because I can understand
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why my body is the way that it is. I wish that people would understand that it's not bizarre to be intersex
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The biological sex is not binary. It exists on a spectrum. That people who are intersex have bodies of all kinds
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different characteristics. There's no one way to be an intersex person. I think I was like 11 years old when I started really doing my makeup
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and that kind of things. I always really felt like feminine, I think, because I also just grew up with the idea that I was a girl
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I'm Joyce, I'm 21 years old and I'm an intersex person. Girls have XX chromosomes, boys have XY chromosomes
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I have androgen incitivity syndrome, what basically means that I have XY chromosomes
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but because I'm 100% insensitive to androgens or testosterone, I developed as a woman in the uterus
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I identify as a female. I always felt like a female. So when I got my diagnosis, at first I was a bit struggling with my own identity
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I was like, am I a boy? Am I a girl? I was like 14 years old when I discovered that I was an intersex person
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It was of course for all of us a shock because we didn't know what it was
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I've never heard of intersex before. I was diagnosed and also my parents didn't know what it was
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Is this me? Yeah, yeah. And how old was I here? Uh, seven. Yeah
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And at this age, I think I was also really tall already, right
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Yes, you were always tall. When I was younger, I went to the pediatrician regularly to get a checkup on how tall I was growing
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I also had really a lot of pain in my back because I was growing so much
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And I always was really, really tired. I always thought there was something happening, but I didn't know what it was
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I went to the pediatrician with my mom for just a checkup
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And then they discovered that my hormone levels were really high. I needed to do an ultrasound to look at my female reproductive organs
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And the doctor told me when he was doing the ultrasound that he couldn't see anything
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So that was like a really big shock to me. And I immediately started crying and had an awful day that I will always remember
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I think just afterwards my diagnosis, that was just the most confusing and negative time
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At the beginning we are worried because we didn't know what intersexer was
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And we heard, you can't have children of your own and you are so good with children
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So yeah, we were worried about that. At that time I was in the middle of puberty and really finding out who I was as a person
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So when I got my diagnosis it was kind of difficult for me
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It was just a really hard time for all of us. But I have an amazing family and they were just really accepting and helping me also with all of the things that I went through at such a young age
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You know, there are good days and there are bad days. Of course, but that's the funny thing with intersex, you can accept yourself, but you always will have like part of your life that it is harder that you have a diagnosis
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Because I see friends of mine that are going to get pregnant and will have children and I will be not able to have those kind of things
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Sometimes it will hurt a little bit more. Yes, I understand. That's why I'm so proud of you, because you've been stronger
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a swan woman now, about this. I thought that was good. Thanks for that, everyone
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Hi! My current boyfriend I met on a dating app. We've been together a year
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In the middle of puberty, I saw a lot of my friends started dating boys
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and I was just somewhere else with my hat. I didn't want to date boys at that point
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It was really scary to just tell them I was an intersex person
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But then I started to put that all on my social media. So I never had to tell them face to face
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So that was always a really safe place for me to just keep the distance a little bit
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Hey, mate. Hey, mate. Let's go take the dogs for a walk, yeah
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I know he told a friend of his that he was matched with me on Tinder
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and that I'm an intersex person, and he was like, do you think I should go on a date with her
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But then the friend told him like, of course, just go on a date with her. You don't know what's gonna happen
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and maybe you really like her. Before you meet with some people
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you go look them up online and you go, and you try to find something about them And it happened to be when I Googled Joyce but it not something that held me back I was planning on telling my parents My sister is also a very nosy person just like me and she was looking up Joyce
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and my mother googled her as well. They found out through that way. They were like
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hey is there anything you want to tell us? I was like hmm not particularly
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It's not like I'm ashamed or anything but it's just like how it's it's quite a delicate subject sometimes like how do I introduce it properly without like a
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stigma or anything around it. So of course me and Gus can't have children of
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our own in the future because I don't have any female reproductive organs but
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yeah I still have a big wish to maybe be a mum in the future so we discussed
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that we can adopt or have children to surrogacy. My mother she was very cautious
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She was always cautious to the beginning, she didn't always know I wanted to have kids and I'm quite a family person
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And so she was like, are you sure? Just being a cautious parent, just warning me like, hey, have you really thought well and clear about it
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But the most important thing is that you also become a parent with someone who you truly love and share a special bond with
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So yeah, that's Joyce for me. Intersex is always being a really big taboo. I would wish that all the people knew about what intersex just basically is. So that other people that are diagnosed as an intersex person, they would see that it wasn't just really a big thing to be intersex
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I think the main reason for the stigma is people just do not understand what it entails
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And if people do start to understand what it entails, it will lead to so much less confusion and maybe to perhaps more acceptance
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Our relationship is like any other. It's not different from previous ones I've had, but it is possible to have a normal, meaningful relationship with someone who's intersex
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A lot of people still feel ashamed about being intersex because there wasn't being spoken about so there are a lot of intersex persons that don't want to
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tell their story so I hope my story reaches them and they see you can just talk about it and it's
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fine to just be who you are. This is basically how I get my estrogen. It's just a standard birth
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control pill that I take. I actually get four packs each time I get it so that I just get a
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period every three months. Basically with my condition, I'm pretty much in menopause if I
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don't take it. Growing up, people didn't know I was intersex because externally the doctors
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considered me a girl. By the time I was 16, I hadn't gotten a period or started going through
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puberty. And so we had to go to my pediatrician to kind of see what was going on. They saw that I
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had a uterus, but it was really small because it wasn't developing. And where my ovaries should have
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been, they weren't developing as well. And so that's why I wasn't getting any estrogen that
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would trigger that puberty. It was really awkward because everybody's already gone through puberty
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and I'm like buying my first bras in late high school and just learning how to use tampons and pads
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I definitely felt a little different. I feel like, why am I younger than everyone else physically
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Like, why have I not matured in that way? And it was just weird
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I feel like starting out, to me, intersex meant this is taboo
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I don't want to tell anyone about it. I just had a lot of anxiety around it
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In the past couple of years, I feel like it was kind of exciting because it just made sense
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Like, oh, I'm not just this or that. I'm different. And that was okay with me
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Looking in the mirror now, I feel like I've definitely come into my own
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I'm still growing, but like overall, I just feel more confident in myself
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Since openly identifying as intersex, it's something I'm really proud of. Hey
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How's it going? Good. How about you? Good. I am six feet tall. I wear size 11 shoes. I can palm a women's basketball. It kind of
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just reshaped my view of all things gender and how that's looked at in society
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So basically, I want to create like a wildlife habitat for all the butterflies. I'm creating a space for
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where all of these butterflies can transform and come into their own
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which is kind of similar to me. Like, I have to take my hormones, my estrogen
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in order to go through puberty and, like, just become a full-blown adult
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These tiny little ones are the aster. My mom supported me through the whole process
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by being the one who's taken me to my doctor's appointments, my surgeries, caring for me in the aftermath of those surgeries
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She's always been there for me. When the doctors explained to us that they found no ovaries
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It was kind of a shock. And then the first thing that you said before I could even kind of put everything together or think about it
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you said, oh gosh, I guess I'm just not going to be able to have babies. For you to be that age, that's the first thing for you to think about
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That's kind of heartbreaking, you know. I knew from a young age that I wouldn't be able to have kids
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I'm sad for my mom not being able to have like grandchildren from me
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but it didn't really stress me out too much until I started dating later in college
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When I was still dating men, I would worry about telling the person and if it would impact how they felt about me
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and if they would want to continue pursuing a relationship with me just based on the fact that I can't have kids naturally
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It's definitely changed a lot now that I'm dating women. I can be open about it and feel comfortable with it
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So I'm going on a blind date today. Oh. I want to see if you can help me pick out my outfit
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When I go on dates with people and I let them know about me being intersex
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I would hope that they are just open-minded and curious. Okay. And hopefully that's something that wouldn't inhibit them from wanting to continue to get to know me
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This top, white jacket. Okay, cute. So how do you think they'll feel once you explain that you're intersex
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I feel like they're already dating women, so they're a little more open-minded than the average person
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What Sierra is actually searching for is love in a person that is like her, kind-hearted and compassionate
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As she's developed into a young adult, I feel like she's also learning more about her inner sex
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and she's wanting other people to listen. Okay. Well, look at you
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Oh my gosh, you look so good. I hope that she finds the person to be interesting
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and open to listening and being positive with Sierra. Have fun. Thank you
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Good luck. Yep, I'll see you in a little bit. Have fun. I definitely get nervous about blind dates
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I get nervous about dates in general, especially with women. I'm scared
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They're beautiful. Hi. Can I do like a mojito
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I'll do a mar. Oh, that sounds good actually. That's it, you can try mine
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Were you nervous about today? Perfect, so much. I still am. Have you been on a blind date before
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I've never been on a blind date before. Okay, neither. I'm pleased
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I don't feel like I've gotten too many questions from dates about being intersex
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because I feel like most of the time people don't really even know what to ask
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I don't necessarily feel obligated to tell people right away, but I'm definitely open to bringing it up naturally if it comes up
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How has dating been for you? It's been all right. I've only had like one longer term relationship, like with women wise
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because I figured out I was into women pretty late in life. It was kind of like this overall journey I was going on because I also learned that I was intersex at a later age
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I don't know if you've heard of that before. I have, but I haven't met anyone that's intersex
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I was 16 when I first realized I couldn't have kids and stuff
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I was going to ask that too. Having kids, like something you see for yourself in your future
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I've been pretty unsure about it. Sometimes I'm leaning towards no, and then other times I'm like, oh, I think it would be cool to have a family
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I'm the same. Are you? Yeah, I think a family sounds cute
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So how do you feel about like dating an intersex person? Like, does it make you feel weird or put you off
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Or like, do you think you're comfortable with something like that? I don't think it puts me off at all
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I would definitely be interested in dating someone that's intersex. I don't think it's a big deal
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I think the day went really well. She was really nice and chill. I felt like we had a good conversation
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I definitely would be open to dating intersex people in the future. I think it's just something that makes them unique
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But I think we're going to have a second date, yeah. I think if people understood intersex more
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I feel like people would be more understanding and realize it's just who we are
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Biological sex isn't binary, and I'm living proof of that, and I'm proud of who I am
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I'm Jyoti. I am 18 years old. I just graduated from high school I going to a community college in the fall I was born with a condition called intersex
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I define that as not having the typical binary sex organs or parts
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In my case, it means that I don't have any internal or external sex organs
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It also means I won't be able to have my own biological children
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I don't have like a vaginal opening. I don't have either ovaries or testes
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I was born in Calcutta, India, and I was adopted by Sue and Patrick
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when I was about three and a half. If you're going to be renters
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they take good care of the property. Hi. Hi. You're supposed to walk
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Oh, ew. I'll go back now. We hope. She was delivered to us in an email. Yeah
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We had been attempting to adopt for probably two years. I looked at that email, I read it over again, and I thought, that's our kid
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That's our baby. I've always seen myself as a girl, as female, and so it wasn't really like a question of who or what I was
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It was more like, what am I going to do for myself in the future
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And that's kind of like where we are now. It says, I have the vocabulary of a well-educated sailor
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I like to have some creamer in my coffee, but it has to be sugar-free because of my diabetes
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In July, I'm having a reconstructive surgery to create a vaginal opening and the vaginal c
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You might not want to see this. Eating? Yeah. Why? I'm a messy eater sometimes
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I decided to do the surgery mainly because as I get older
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I want to have a more typical female sex life I know that it going to be a long surgery and there a long time of recovery
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My hope is she's going to feel more complete as a person she identifies as, as a woman
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and that it will make it easier to date. So, what are your options
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Well I could always just do shorts or not like a nice equal
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So if I'm pursuing a relationship with a heterosexual male, there's the assumption that I have like all the typical parts
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Isn't that a beautiful color on her? I'm just worried about looking too full because we're going to Main Street bar and grill
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I have to explain it, and I want to be upfront about it
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I'm going to try my other option. I'm going on a date with Johnny, who I met on the app OKCupid
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We have a lot of the same kind of beliefs and the same point of view, I guess
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He's also kind of nerdy. I can be kind of nerdy too
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So are you feeling nervous? A little. Mostly because I haven't actually met him yet
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He sounds like just a good person, a mature person with very similar interests and values to hers
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So I'm trusting, and I'm trusting Joe's judgment too. We've texted a bunch, we've talked on the phone
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He knows about my condition. I've probably worried to excess about whether or not this guy will back out
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Be good! I really glad that you said yes to this because I was kind of worried The last guy I was like I went out with actually said
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that it was a deal breaker, my condition. Oh, that's right. Yep
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Reorganize a little. I try to watch TV, but my internet's been out all day
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Oh no. I watch superhero stuff, things like that, anime. I wait for a show to release and then I'll just binge all of it
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Yeah, and also here's the thing. A lot of the... We had a lot in common
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In fact, we talked more than we ate actually. And when she told me about her condition
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I thought, well, that's cool, that's different. But I wanted to get to know her as a person
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Oh, that question really got me. It was a little awkward at first, but I think, yeah, she seemed really cool, and I liked her
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So I had a really good time. Me too. And I'm not lying about this
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Yeah. Yeah, this was good. Yeah. Yeah. Would you like to go out on again
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Yeah, I would. Yeah. The first time I met Joe, I knew within about 30 seconds that I had just come into contact
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with probably the most determined, strong, feisty little personality I would probably
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ever meet in my life. The subsequent 15 years have not proven that wrong
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As much as it scares me to have this surgery, because it is such a big operation, I'm also
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excited for it because I know this is something I definitely want to do
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