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Vince Staples: The Raw, Unfiltered Truth of His Artistic Evolution | SWAY’S UNIVERSE
Feb 16, 2024
Subscribe now and dive deep into the mind of Vince Staples as he shocks the world with the truth behind his groundbreaking Netflix hit on "Sway In The Morning." In this exclusive interview, Vince reveals layers of insight, honesty, and the raw reality that shapes his work, both as a visionary artist and a daring storyteller. From discussing the profound impact of shows like "Insecure" and "Entourage" to unveiling the creative process and personal experiences that fueled "The Vince Staples Show," Vince holds nothing back. With Sway's unparalleled interviewing skills, expect unprecedented revelations and a deep dive into Vince's journey from Long Beach to global acclaim. This is not just an interview; it's a masterclass in storytelling, creativity, and resilience. #VinceStaples #Netflix #TheVinceStaplesShow #SwayInTheMorning #ExclusiveInterviews. Don't miss out on this captivating conversation that transcends music and television. Follow us on Sway’s Universe social media and visit our website for more content that moves and inspires.
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Intro
1:45 - Vince Staples Netflix Series & Directorial Vision
17:00 - Vince Staples Show
17:02 - DB's Favorite Show Moments
17:06 - Impact of Interviews on Vince Staples' Career
17:18 - Influence of Music Videos on Vince Staples' Career
17:28 - Journey to Netflix: Vince Staples Show
20:04 - Vince Staples Returns
20:15 - Writing for TV vs Music: Vince Staples Insight
25:00 - Life Changes Post Vince Staples Show
28:40 - Final Thoughts on Vince Staples Show
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[Applause]
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ladies and gentlemen I'm going go on
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record and say
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it I remember when insecure first came
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out yeah I knew I would become a fan I'd
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be slightly obsessed with it I remember
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when Entourage first came out that's
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another one of those you know one of
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those series that came out on uh I think
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that Pro that platform was HBO yes sir
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is when people are able to kind of
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really tap on the post of our community
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our environment how we grow up um but
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it's not just on the surface it's it's
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it's layers to it and um I had chance to
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watch our good friend who's with us
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right now I've been a fan of his since
0:35
2014 2015 he's often a part of my
0:38
conversation it's not many people I
0:40
bring up in conversation with my friends
0:42
when we're not on front on a camera in
0:44
front of a mic right I'm always
0:46
interested in him because he's good
0:47
friends with my brother big Von and the
0:49
two of them are kind of like like-minded
0:51
in a way that their minds are not like
0:53
anyone else is you
0:56
know you know they're very unique in
0:58
their perspective they very honest and
1:01
this man has the kind of honesty in him
1:04
at this stage in his life that I only
1:05
wish I could have had at my stage at at
1:09
when I was at the same stage he is um in
1:11
my life the ability to be transparent
1:14
the ability to be honest the ability to
1:16
be on apologetic uh and to be able to do
1:19
those things when you don't necessarily
1:20
have job security or you may not
1:22
necessarily have enough to to keep you
1:24
going for the next year you know your
1:26
career could be ended by some of the
1:29
things you've said
1:30
he has never pulled back on that and not
1:32
only that he's a ill ass MC who gave me
1:35
one of the biggest compliments anybody
1:37
in my position with one a half what's
1:39
that he said I would only rap for sway
1:43
y'all heard that we got the one and only
1:45
Vince Staples here why welcome back
1:48
welcome back welcome back musician and
1:51
actor and so much more and director and
1:55
executive
1:56
producer I got to I got to thank y'all I
1:58
just want to say first I'm happy to see
2:00
y'all i a a long time happy to see y'all
2:03
um you know it's always comfortable up
2:04
here it's always you know real up here
2:06
but why you give me that's a lot on the
2:09
top end Entourage crazy insecure crazy
2:13
man now you you giving some big shoes to
2:15
feel man but I appreciate you this is
2:17
why though cuz I see your potential
2:20
right and I know you know your potential
2:22
and you've been thinking it's easy to
2:24
get kind of caught up in a web when you
2:26
come into entertainment I don't care how
2:28
you get there acting music or whatever
2:31
you could get stuck in the web you could
2:32
get stuck in the box right and I've
2:34
realized that when I went to MTV and the
2:38
and the the um exposure grew and it
2:40
became Global and I'm sitting there
2:41
thinking everybody was aware of
2:43
everything I'm doing on MTV until I left
2:46
MTV and people was like I didn't know
2:48
you did that [ __ ] you know and it's so I
2:50
thought I was the king of the world
2:51
until I stepped outside of my box when I
2:54
look at you I feel like Vince has
2:57
stepped outside of the box and he seen
3:00
different things the way this series
3:01
opens in the first episode um you guys
3:04
are in the street it's Long Beach and I
3:07
I couldn't tell what I was seeing look
3:09
like a woman was working into a
3:10
department store and but the Ambiance
3:13
the surrounding noise this chaos here
3:15
people yelling over here it's shooting
3:18
over here and the woman is still walking
3:20
about her business and I was looking at
3:23
that that's a statement yes that's how
3:25
we grew up in Oakland I didn't realize
3:27
how loud it was m until I looked at that
3:31
that first scene tell me about that
3:33
first what was the purpose of that I
3:35
mean that's why I love y'all bro cuz
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like um it's it's it's a it's a fight to
3:39
put certain things that matter to you
3:42
and um into these things when other
3:44
people don't understand it so to say um
3:47
for some context you know Cory from New
3:48
York Cory been managing me since I was
3:50
18 probably 17 turning 18 I've been
3:53
around helping me really managing me
3:54
since I like kind of focused on this and
3:57
tell him I was from longone Beach he be
3:59
like oh yeah you go to the beach and I
4:01
was like
4:02
nah and then I started thinking and I
4:05
was like I I when I was a kid I this
4:06
elementary school called stev and my mom
4:08
and my pops had just split up and it was
4:10
like you got the boy I got the girl
4:12
thing and my dad always had an In-N-Out
4:13
situation so he was he was home at this
4:16
time you know my dad always tried to do
4:17
whatever he had to do but he live he
4:18
liked the water we lived closer to the
4:20
beach kind of closer like seventh uh
4:23
prob alos yeah um but we never went to
4:27
the beach and then we start traveling I
4:29
remember the first time I did a show in
4:30
Byron Bay um Australia I think that's
4:33
Australia New Zealand one of those
4:35
places and we stayed at like like a nice
4:36
resort type thing and it was like my
4:38
first time like knowing what like water
4:40
sound like really and I live I grew up
4:43
right there my whole life like I lived
4:44
on fent and Temple I done live on four
4:46
five we didn't live close to Ocean I
4:47
didn't live everywhere on the east side
4:48
of Long Beach like close to water being
4:50
a kid but I never noticed it and that
4:52
was always interesting to me in like
4:53
soundscape it's always been important in
4:54
my music like that's why I started my
4:56
first couple um albums with with ocean
4:59
sounds CU it was like it was it kind of
5:01
represented like something new that was
5:02
familiar at the same time and like but
5:04
nobody ever asked me like kind of why I
5:06
do those things but that that was very
5:07
important cuz that's a that's a donut
5:10
shop right there on the hood on each
5:11
side that's a real donut shop yeah and
5:13
and and and it's really grimy right
5:14
there but it's beautiful like if you
5:16
notice how the colors are accentuated
5:17
you notice like the like it's important
5:19
to shoot that from high up so you can
5:21
see outside of like we ants you know
5:22
what I mean and we already feel bad
5:23
about ourselves most of the time we live
5:25
in these communities so to kind of just
5:27
see it at at scope like how beautiful it
5:30
looks but you got the water right here
5:31
you got this over here you got that over
5:32
here but you know the the the Cambodian
5:34
people that stay right there that
5:35
operate in these businesses the Hispanic
5:37
people that's operating these businesses
5:38
the black people that's operating these
5:39
businesses they come to work every day
5:41
and we was kids they never judged us
5:43
they never looked at us crazy it was
5:44
always not in here and it wasn't you
5:46
know you wrong you know what I mean so
5:48
opening that up was important cuz if you
5:50
working at the 24-hour dut shop in the
5:53
hood you going to see some you know what
5:56
I mean so it was really important I
5:58
thank you for asking cuz it was really
5:59
important to Encompass all of that at
6:01
once I think it it has to do with I
6:03
think you're an anomaly to a lot of
6:05
folks in the business for whatever
6:07
reason we always feel like no matter
6:09
what you say there's about 10 volumes of
6:12
more wisdom or maybe this just my
6:13
perspective uh uh behind it so when I'm
6:16
watching your work I'm really trying to
6:18
figure it's like a puzzle for me what
6:20
did he mean by thatd meaning why did
6:22
Vince do that why did he h what's what
6:25
was the what was the reason behind all
6:27
of that and so you talk about how to hit
6:32
uh a overview scene from a from from a
6:36
camera point from a camera position
6:38
don't think we didn't notice that right
6:41
that's some real Spike Lee Ste Steven
6:43
Spielberg way of thinking right um when
6:46
did you start developing that kind of
6:48
vision where you could not only see be
6:50
seen as an actor writer but also a
6:52
director was it a video you did that
6:53
made you go H well I feel like working
6:57
with smaller budgets in music okay for
7:00
one um is a thing um I always been
7:02
appreciative of every opportunity we
7:04
have every partner we've had but the
7:06
truth is the truth when we first started
7:08
you know I don't never say this kind of
7:09
stuff but as I get older I realize it's
7:11
important for people to hear um I had a
7:14
I had a situation at home mind you I
7:16
never asked Cory for nothing yeah when I
7:18
first start working with Cory I asked
7:20
him like for a
7:21
hoodie I'm this his asking for a hoodie
7:24
I said if if I'm going go to the studio
7:26
I need like $40 I'll be good for like a
7:28
month cuz I was thinking about Bus and
7:30
Train like $150 a day I was like I'll be
7:31
good for like a month and then I was
7:34
like hey we need like $225,000 for this
7:38
lawyer so I need to figure that out and
7:41
he was like well let's start shopping
7:43
the deal super early we just finished
7:44
the MC Miller project we sign we do the
7:46
deal Joey help us out uh Jo bounc he's
7:51
about to bounce but then legal
7:52
department was like hey we not really
7:54
doing deals right now but they they they
7:55
they sped the deal up to be like to get
7:58
it done before it can be flag
8:00
looking type situation and um they
8:03
helped us as much as they could for
8:05
artist that they didn't want to sign in
8:06
the first place so now you got to do a
8:08
video for 2500 for 5,000 and you realize
8:11
how much this stuff cost and that sound
8:13
like a lot of money to me at the time
8:14
and you realize it's crimes so just
8:17
trying to utilize perspective for
8:19
visuals I remember we came out here we
8:20
shot a video um for a song on the stone
8:23
the youth project called stuck in my
8:25
ways it was it was a Stand Out song that
8:26
they liked and the concept the director
8:28
had shout out to the director and
8:29
everybody that worked on that video it
8:31
was a momento to film and they was kind
8:32
of recreating a momento film in New York
8:35
through through a hotel and I was like I
8:36
don't I don't want to use it I was like
8:38
it don't got nothing to do with me like
8:39
I don't that's not how I see the world
8:42
and Cory had paid for it out of his
8:43
pocket and he was like we ain't got to
8:44
put it out cuz it don't it don't it
8:46
don't connect with you so then my thing
8:48
is I never wanted nobody to have to do
8:50
nothing like that for me cuz I I I do my
8:51
own stuff you know what I mean so I
8:52
don't want nobody having to do nothing
8:54
like that for me again so the next
8:56
couple runs was um the blue sued video
9:00
was working with Spike Jordan from
9:01
Philadelphia and that was early on he
9:03
still he still doing videography he
9:05
doing amazing stuff now work with Lil
9:06
Uzi and all kind of thing and he was
9:08
like yeah how do you see um how do you
9:11
see the world type situation was a
9:13
question I was asking myself and I told
9:15
him like the idea like black and white
9:17
um I guess black and white photography
9:19
has always been interesed to me and um I
9:22
feel like we walk through life right and
9:25
you have your perspective your
9:26
perspective becomes Bland so with the
9:27
blue sway video specifically I was like
9:29
all right I wanted to be black and white
9:31
but I only want like hints of blue and
9:33
of course I don't understand execution
9:34
but he was like why and I was like
9:36
because you kind of don't like we live
9:38
in a space really where it's majority
9:40
white people in Long Beach Long Beach is
9:42
majority white hispanic Southeast Asian
9:44
black people like say the number might
9:46
be wrong but I think it's right under
9:47
half a million people or like it's
9:49
something in 100 thousands of black
9:50
people in Long Beach and I mean of
9:52
people in Long Beach and it's 200 20,000
9:54
black people 30,000 black people up
9:56
there I never knew that so it's like so
9:58
you walk around you see that me black
9:59
people and we see somebody black it's
10:01
like oh that's a Nigi tripping you know
10:03
what I mean so like the blue was like to
10:04
kind of accentuate the fact that we have
10:06
standout moments so you'll have a black
10:09
and white you have a black and white
10:11
video where everybody's having fun but
10:12
then you see certain colors and it makes
10:13
you feel uncomfortable like it's really
10:15
it's really important to like showcase
10:17
discomfort to me because I kind of been
10:18
uncomfortable most of my life like
10:20
around other people and situations
10:21
family [ __ ] like that and especially
10:22
when I was younger so when I start
10:25
thinking about videos in that way then
10:26
we got that first video then we have um
10:29
the the um the Lift Me Up video that we
10:32
shot around the corner from my house I
10:34
was staying in San Pedro by the projects
10:35
and then we shot around the corner from
10:36
the house and um the idea of just like
10:40
being in control of like your body and
10:42
like I'm I'm thinking ideas are not
10:44
necessarily shot composition so I'm like
10:46
all right I want I want us to kind of be
10:48
floating but I didn't know how to
10:49
execute it so then we got their version
10:52
of floating instead of the you get what
10:54
I'm saying so then when it's time to do
10:55
north north I'm like all right we have
10:57
$5,000 for North North
10:59
and it might have been a little bit more
11:00
a little less but I remember that being
11:02
that was like an important thing and we
11:03
pick we had a a a makeshift set that was
11:07
closing the next day and we shot it in
11:09
there my whole concept for that video
11:11
was like contrast negative and positive
11:15
things kind of living in the same space
11:16
and not knowing what's what so at that
11:18
point from what happened was what Lift
11:19
Me Up what happened with these other
11:21
visuals I I got to the seniorita was a
11:23
great idea but it wasn't my idea I just
11:25
we kind of talked about like certain he
11:26
took certain things I said in interviews
11:28
about music consumption as far as like
11:30
it's like the zoo it's like you know
11:31
white people look like oh look at the
11:32
[ __ ] go that's how I always felt about
11:33
music and he was like I have an idea
11:35
based on what you said but when it was
11:37
time for North North we didn't had no
11:38
money we didn't had no it was like this
11:40
is a song we liked it had nothing the
11:42
label nobody was like thinking about it
11:43
in that regard they was thinking a song
11:45
gener or the future thing was going to
11:46
be the ones they want to look at so at
11:48
that point I started thinking how do you
11:51
create the composition in a way that you
11:53
understand it and you can you can kind
11:54
of explain it to people so the the north
11:56
North video is just like the opening
11:58
scene of Andy Griffin show mhm is with
12:00
black people right so it's like being
12:01
able so being able to pull from that
12:04
sway favorite shows by the way yeah I
12:07
and I used to watch that show my grandpa
12:08
when I was a kid all the time that's
12:09
what happened with
12:10
s yeah like and every day my grandpa
12:13
didn't had the best like kind of English
12:14
and things like that like he it was like
12:16
an important moment for us so but I
12:17
always thought was interesting because
12:18
it's like you hear about jail especially
12:20
with your pops going to jail and like a
12:21
lot of people in my family been
12:22
incarcerated I didn't think jail was bad
12:25
because you watch The Andy Griffith Show
12:27
oh that's you know that as a see kid my
12:30
dad in there he got friends in there you
12:32
know what I mean like the cops is cool
12:33
everybody cool like so that was my
12:35
thought process so I wanted to kind of
12:36
showcase an environment like contrasting
12:39
like real gang members and like my
12:41
homies and putting them inside of a jail
12:44
situation where everybody look like they
12:45
having a good time and um that was that
12:48
was really important to me but I it took
12:49
years to know how to kind of articulate
12:51
that and then taking that further and
12:53
further and further into the visuals
12:54
that we did people start leaning into my
12:57
music videos more than not more than my
12:59
music but it's a connectivity Point
13:00
especially at that time now it don't
13:01
mean as much but back then that's how
13:03
people kind of discover stuff so I never
13:05
been naive who I am I ain't never had no
13:07
super big records we just work hard you
13:09
know we got good friends that help us
13:10
out and they'll play our songs like van
13:12
who going play anything we do and I
13:13
always appreciate them for that but
13:16
people oh I like his interviews or I
13:17
like this or I like that I never had the
13:19
ego to be like [ __ ] look at what I want
13:20
you to look at yeah so then it made me
13:22
think all right how do we figure that
13:24
out like can we figure out some sort of
13:25
Television thing can we figure out
13:26
something we went to meetings and they
13:29
honestly [ __ ] on us for like it's not
13:32
this but we do we these are the IPS that
13:34
we working on everybody and it's like CU
13:36
we we wer we want every company you can
13:38
think of um now we every big production
13:40
company everybody with office they was
13:41
like no but they said no in a nice way
13:44
they were like well these are the things
13:46
we're working on and we're trying to
13:48
develop if you have music for these
13:50
things then we'll help you so it got to
13:54
the point to where I had I had some
13:55
decent sink it's like probably after Big
13:56
Fish Tre right after yeah so I'm like
13:58
all right I didn't take it no kind of
13:59
way all right I ain't ready so what can
14:01
I do so we started doing a bunch of
14:02
VoiceOver stuff started doing a bunch of
14:05
um auditions we didn't get we audition
14:07
probably every other week for probably
14:09
three four years we didn't get one call
14:10
back no people don't hear this part of
14:12
the story D you auditioned every other
14:14
for three years it was taking improv
14:16
classes too right yeah well I I had to I
14:19
had to take an improv class in regards
14:21
to the show just to like I said all in
14:23
preparation right certain people that
14:25
was working on the show like we doing
14:26
table reads we doing stuff they was like
14:27
he ain't ready M they said it like he
14:30
ain't ready and then Kenya being who
14:32
Kenya is Kenya was like look he's like
14:34
like well they they have means and means
14:36
and Ken I'm going tell the truth they
14:37
think you ain't ready he was like he was
14:39
like I understand that you might think
14:40
you ready like he's like based on how
14:41
they that think not ready so can you
14:43
bear yeah so he was like he was like
14:44
take this class take that class take
14:46
that class take that class now they
14:47
can't say nothing and I did all that I'm
14:50
leaving I'm leaving the um the writing
14:53
room The Writing Room start at 8:00 I
14:55
live 2 hours away so I'm getting up at
14:56
like 3 4: driving so I can be there
14:59
early before everybody else the riding
15:00
room probably Clos um 5 5 6 so I'm
15:04
driving an hour to uh Santa Monica in
15:08
Boulevard in Hollywood to get to the
15:10
improv class and then I'm coming going
15:12
back on and I'm I was doing that for
15:14
probably five days out the week six days
15:17
out the week so I had the writing room
15:18
class and then like life so I had to do
15:21
all that and um yeah just trying to cuz
15:23
my thing is I didn't want to do
15:24
something that was um typical or
15:25
traditional like even we had meetings
15:28
like they they like this is this isn't
15:32
funny I was like it's not funny to me
15:34
but it's funny to y'all and that's the
15:36
concept of the show so it's like you
15:38
think about standpoints of like all
15:41
right the white man getting shot at the
15:43
end of the at the end of first episode I
15:45
was yeah I didn't want to give that up
15:46
it made a lot of people it's on Netflix
15:48
we streaming go watch okay it's on
15:49
Netflix y go go see that [ __ ] baby the
15:52
staple show you better go watch that
15:54
mark my words it's a hit mark my words
15:58
like just certain things are certain
15:59
things are telling like we got we got
16:01
certain notes about that being too much
16:03
but we never got any notes about anybody
16:05
black getting heard that we got a whole
16:08
episode of V getting shot at we got no
16:09
notes from that we got a whole episode
16:11
of v in jail we got no notes from that
16:13
except for one note and it didn't have
16:15
nothing to do with none of the black
16:15
people in the thing so it's like I think
16:17
the perception that we all have which is
16:20
I'm not saying it's right I'm not saying
16:21
it's wrong I'm saying it's
16:22
understandable it's always been
16:24
interesting to me to kind of try to have
16:26
a take on on this perception because
16:28
it's like like this when within the show
16:30
the stuff that black people see and
16:32
understand they'll see is funny yeah the
16:34
stuff that white people see and
16:35
understand as far as black people
16:36
they'll see it's funny but nobody in the
16:38
show is telling a
16:39
joke wow like it's not one joke written
16:42
it's not one joke set up it's just like
16:44
literally is day-to-day life and the
16:46
things within that day-to-day life that
16:47
you see is funny is what makes it what
16:49
it is the Vince Staples Show on Netflix
16:53
damn it wow that's what I mean like vce
16:56
says and then after you talk you know
16:58
it's like volumes of wisdom that he
17:00
hasn't hit he hasn't hit up D DB real
17:02
quick I know you watched the whole
17:03
series right I watched every episode you
17:06
I watched the first three you watch yeah
17:08
it's tough cuz there's so much I mean I
17:10
I told you some of the stuff that I
17:11
loved when you came into the room I mean
17:13
like the Easter eggs and the way that
17:14
the nods to other films are woven into
17:16
the episodes and into the plot was just
17:18
like for me I'm such a huge movie nerd
17:20
that that kind of stuff was like well
17:21
love it like thank you you know even
17:23
wearing like certain shirts that are
17:25
part of the Easter egg as well you know
17:26
I won't get into that but like what just
17:28
said right now gave me a different way
17:30
of looking at the show when you said
17:31
like there's no jokes and I didn't
17:33
really even think about that because I
17:34
was laughing not realizing that these
17:35
weren't meant to be funny it was just
17:37
life and there's a there's a quote where
17:39
you said um I think you said my
17:41
grandfather told me if you do the crime
17:42
you do the time I wish he had told me
17:44
just not do the crime so after you
17:47
finish this series I know reliving some
17:50
of these like moments that were inspired
17:52
by your life did did it ever like Dawn
17:54
on you like damn I never really thought
17:55
about it until I got to see it instead
17:57
of just being part of my m
17:59
um to be honest a big part of that is
18:02
Corey like you know when when starting
18:04
to try to get into music you know the
18:05
finances and music aren't necessarily
18:07
what most people think they are right
18:08
and we all know that so it's hard to
18:12
Conor just be like I'm a fly straight
18:14
and I ain't never like everybody who
18:16
know me I'm not like super burnt out I'm
18:17
not extra I'm not trying to walk around
18:19
tough my circumstances and my
18:21
environment just my circumstances in my
18:22
environment but I don't like I don't
18:23
pick on people bro I don't believe in
18:24
that kind of stuff so like if I end up
18:26
in a situation like anybody know me like
18:29
all right something happened yeah so
18:31
it's like certain situation like I'm on
18:32
to phone with Cory I'm I'm
18:34
like oh what's what happened B [ __ ] man
18:36
you know I'm I got to call you back the
18:38
baby shower just got ra and then he
18:40
called me back like hey what did you
18:42
just say right I'm like the police right
18:44
here I got to call you back and he would
18:46
be like you understand that that's not
18:47
normal right and I was young at the time
18:49
I didn't think it was no nothing I was
18:51
like I can't be on the phone if the
18:53
police is right here like they going to
18:54
be like who you talking to that's all
18:55
that's the only place my mind is going
18:57
MH and he's like like but you understand
18:59
that that happening is not normal it was
19:00
a cop that that that operated in long
19:02
he's still a cop now and my homie had
19:04
called me and was like yeah man uh
19:06
whoopy got mom over here H they pulled
19:08
her over again they said they they said
19:09
you got a show they said they G to shoot
19:11
you off of the stage and they be they
19:13
they be playing music I'm laughing me
19:14
and him laughing Cory like who said
19:17
what and I'm like nah bro that's just
19:19
how he get down like he be trying to
19:21
scare everybody like he like that's just
19:22
like a game he play Cory like man he
19:24
like we F to get a lyer we F to do this
19:25
we do that and like me being younger and
19:27
just that being my reality I never
19:29
thought nothing of it yeah but he kind
19:31
of helped me realize like and I would
19:33
hear him saying it means when we trying
19:34
to piture show he's like Vince will tell
19:35
you something that he think you that he
19:36
thinks is um that you think is that he
19:38
thinks is completely normal and it'll be
19:40
ridiculous he's like it'll be like crazy
19:42
like almost like uncomfortable so like
19:44
the aspect of not having the jokes
19:46
written was a very hard sale for the
19:48
show because it's just visual cues and
19:50
visual humor and it's like it's not
19:53
funny which is what makes it funny you
19:55
get what I'm saying because sometimes
19:57
life has these moments to where all you
19:58
can do is laugh at him you better say
20:00
that facts that's that's all you can do
20:04
yeah hey uh uh Tracy had the be uh Vince
20:07
Staples is back I mean yeah I told you
20:09
he would so happy that you're back Vince
20:11
oh my goodness this is incredible you're
20:13
so easy to root for my guy and I mean
20:15
that sincerely thank you to um because
20:17
you are incredibly multifaceted you have
20:20
all these hats you have your hands and
20:22
all of these different directions to
20:25
contrast writing for this show versus
20:27
writing music you've said that writing
20:29
music comes very easily to you you can
20:31
write a song in five minutes you always
20:32
have music um did that same ease come
20:36
with writing for this where you always
20:38
writing with a television series in your
20:40
mind alongside creating albums and also
20:43
is it easy for you to identify when you
20:48
are creating for yourself and when you
20:51
are creating for the viewer and when you
20:53
take those risk or chances or edits for
20:56
the viewer does it always feel good for
20:58
you um thank you for that question um I
21:02
feel
21:03
like writing in general like as I get
21:05
older I realize it's just like something
21:07
that I'm able to do um I feel like
21:10
expectation is important like with music
21:13
the music I grew up liking and the music
21:15
I grew up you
21:16
know being I would say affected by in
21:20
both a negative and a positive light
21:21
were extremely personal so I never view
21:24
music from it successful measures like
21:26
ever yeah like the the music I never
21:28
wrote a song and was like this is going
21:29
to be a hit this for this I write the
21:31
songs I writer because I need to
21:33
specifically write these songs for that
21:34
moment and I've been lucky enough to
21:36
have people around that's accepting of
21:38
that and be like we just going to put
21:39
this where we can but I've never had a
21:41
conversation like we have meetings with
21:42
labels they like oh what's a single and
21:44
i' be like you tell me cuz I already got
21:47
what I got from it I've never heard a
21:49
single in my life and be like oh that's
21:50
the one that's just not how I view music
21:52
but with
21:53
television it's way different because
21:55
there so many people that play and um I
21:58
wasn't writing a show at first because
22:01
when I did the YouTube series for the
22:03
VIN stable show was all improv like we
22:05
got to set set up and just they like oh
22:06
and turn the camera on Vince do
22:08
something and then everybody else just
22:09
kind of play off of that and we have
22:10
wonderful people and like talented
22:12
successful people in the cast that just
22:14
were able to riff off of that yeah um
22:15
and we would kind of loosely write their
22:17
parts and whatever I would just play off
22:18
for whatever we had to as far as the
22:20
scenery it's not going down like that in
22:21
this so they was trying to write uh
22:24
pilots and trying to figure stuff out it
22:26
was it just wasn't clicking and then C
22:28
mtic who I you know don't not get enough
22:30
credit for you know his his his place in
22:31
the show and just making it happen and
22:33
you know producing it with us and just
22:35
being consultant and just just helping
22:37
he was like Hey this ain't going to
22:38
happen if you don't write it he was like
22:40
so you going have to write it he was
22:41
like go buy final draft $200 go buy put
22:43
it on your computer and write it if you
22:44
a if you don't write it it's over and I
22:46
was like all right so I bought it and
22:48
then I called Maurice Williams one of
22:49
the writers I told course I'm G to write
22:51
this thing he's like all right and I
22:52
called Maurice Williams um one of our
22:54
EPs and I was like how you do this and
22:56
he's like well when you start you need
22:58
to see hand and press space bar twice
22:59
boom all right you did that yeah all
23:01
right now press space bar again now to
23:03
the end of the dialogue press shift and
23:04
press that then put in the person's name
23:06
all right cool now do you do L line do L
23:08
lines and he T me how to do it and he
23:09
sat on the phone and told me how to
23:11
format it use a application and he wrote
23:13
the script and then uh the script got
23:16
approved but they had to still clean it
23:20
up in certain regards but we were
23:22
missing certain parts of the story so
23:25
over time in that writing room I had
23:27
great people who able to be like this
23:29
needs to change this needs to change
23:31
this needs to change because this isn't
23:32
what a story is and the part I didn't
23:35
understand was page Cuts so they like oh
23:38
30 minutes is 30 pages we need 30
23:40
minutes cool all right so I write a 30
23:42
page script I don't want to do too much
23:43
not realizing we going to cut five to 10
23:45
pages so then it comes to the editing
23:47
process and being like all right now I
23:49
got to turn 15 minutes in 15 minute
23:51
story in the 20 25 minutes so being able
23:54
to have good writers around being able
23:56
to have good people around help the cuz
23:58
they was all like you do it like just
24:00
because of like say something I might
24:02
take in one or two weeks I was able to
24:03
do in like thankfully like 30 minutes M
24:06
like 45 minutes and I'm not if you say
24:08
it ain't good or this ain't right I'm
24:09
going just do it again you're fine I'm
24:11
not going to argue you down so it was
24:13
extremely different because music was
24:15
way more personal and it's it is about
24:17
yourself because it's from your point of
24:18
view with this the point of view as a
24:19
writer is more Visual and it's also more
24:22
in the setup and like the dialogue I
24:24
mean she more in the setup than it's
24:25
more in the dialogue than the setup got
24:26
it so if you have two people talking and
24:29
it feels like you that's perfectly fine
24:30
but the way that you get into the shot
24:32
the way that you get into the scene the
24:33
way that you get out of the conversation
24:34
that has to be a certain way for it to
24:36
work and it was challenging at first
24:40
because excuse me that's not my skill
24:42
set and but I had from Crystal jenin Amy
24:45
hubs uh wnter Coleman Maurice Williams
24:48
Ian Edelman Jackson to Lola roel Jeff
24:51
padel being in the um right room with me
24:53
and Cory excuse me my bad being in the
24:55
right room with me and Cory they just
24:57
always help
24:58
and Ken being like hey you doing too
24:59
much all right cool and then Netflix
25:02
being like hey like we had multiple
25:03
versions of the show like and was like
25:05
this two dark there two this there two
25:07
that and I literally had to start over
25:09
like from scratch like we was halfway
25:10
through the room and I had to start over
25:11
from scratch but you just have to be
25:13
understanding of they know how their
25:14
platform works yeah the writers know how
25:16
television works and I was luckily I was
25:17
around people that were straightforward
25:19
enough to let me know that what I was
25:21
doing wasn't going to work and I'm just
25:22
I've never done this before so they gave
25:24
me a lot of Grace Beautiful then Staples
25:27
I love that and I hope a lot of
25:29
creatives that are out like that watch
25:31
this take cue from this yeah wow right
25:34
yeah just really quickly um Tyler James
25:37
Williams was here yesterday from abbid
25:39
elementary and what you're saying and a
25:42
lot of what he said yesterday it just
25:44
resonate to my heart and just because of
25:46
time constraints I just would not feel
25:49
right if I didn't leave you today by
25:51
saying thank you for doing the work like
25:54
you could have had a whole bunch of
25:56
people doing doing a whole lot of stuff
25:59
I know how this works and the fact that
26:03
not only did you practice obedience and
26:06
discipline and faith and all the
26:08
different things that goes into what
26:10
what it takes congratulations for doing
26:13
the work God bless you young man God
26:16
bless you a jewel brother you a jewel we
26:19
have a lot of respect for you
26:22
brother respect love the way you
26:24
thinking man it's um you you came into
26:26
this business and was able to find pull
26:29
back the curtain and find out it's like
26:31
The Wizard of Oz at the end you go back
26:34
ain't the [ __ ] you thought it
26:36
was you're probably looking like wait
26:38
all these people I've been around all
26:39
these years they never said nothing but
26:42
they knew too it ain't what it ain't
26:45
what you think it is and some people
26:47
don't ever realize that and they stand
26:49
at your inertia and they chase that tail
26:51
that Loop and they go 10 15 20 25 years
26:54
into the business and realize the
26:56
business is it does doesn't love you
26:58
like that you have to get out and go get
27:01
it and so I want to say I commend you
27:03
for that for having that understanding
27:05
but also allowing your art um to
27:09
inform um to educate whether you're
27:11
trying to or not um but you letting
27:14
people you're informing people right
27:16
you're equipping our minds and you're
27:18
teaching folks that you could think
27:20
outside of that box amen where are you
27:22
with music now uh I play some stuff uh I
27:26
just I just finished uh working on some
27:28
stuff I'm always working on music okay I
27:30
think the the thing about music that's
27:31
interesting to me is that like when I
27:33
was a kid bro I was I was so like
27:35
uninformed on music I know I I've just
27:38
been thinking about stuff as I got older
27:39
like when I was a kid bro I didn't even
27:40
realize like what a concert was yeah and
27:43
then I start doing them and then like I
27:44
remember the first concert I went to was
27:46
after I was making music and I was like
27:48
oh it was like a Diana Ross thing my
27:49
mama wanted to go to when I took her for
27:50
mother's day I had a little bit of bread
27:52
I took her and my grandma and uh I was
27:54
like oh this is what the show supposed
27:55
to be like you a just run around on
27:57
stage and stuff that you know me I know
27:59
none of that so music I'm always have
28:01
affinity for music and I think music is
28:03
important and I'm going be real whether
28:04
I want to make music or not I'm going
28:05
still make it yeah um cuz what what I
28:08
learned from just my my my I guess path
28:11
in life and one thing that I feel like
28:12
we kind of got to realize more as
28:13
entertainers it's like it's not about
28:15
you like whatever you get whatever you
28:17
do it's not about you and the second you
28:20
can realize that like you'll be a lot
28:22
more content and happy like it's about
28:23
not even about the consumption but just
28:25
the fans and and all that is the people
28:27
who are like you who come after you that
28:29
need information on the world they about
28:31
to walk into cuz nobody told us nothing
28:33
n and you know if they did it might have
28:35
been a little bit different so Vince
28:37
Staples is here man man love love it man
28:40
good job man I'mma save the bars for
28:43
next time Vince I'm going have you next
28:45
time we we I'm going to be back in a
28:47
couple I I know I already know what this
28:49
is turn around we had to get re you know
28:54
we had to get need a reunion Vin needed
28:56
to see my face now hun been years years
29:00
oh [ __ ] Cory we got to go back to New
29:02
York cancel
29:04
it n but I want to say um I have so many
29:07
kids who come up to me so many um people
29:10
in the community that come up to me and
29:12
repeat whatever it was you said about
29:14
freestyling on our show when you say I
29:17
only freestyle for swaying it well
29:19
because you know what it is like it's a
29:20
difference between coming from a fan
29:22
standpoint and this is what I like
29:24
versus like this is what I am and I
29:26
don't think people realiz it ain't a
29:28
good feeling to sit in front of these
29:29
[ __ ] who don't who don't who
29:31
think it's only like entertainment yeah
29:34
like there's no way behind the words and
29:35
the position and these things like so I
29:38
just appreciate you get all like you
29:40
said people knew how it was right it
29:42
ain't that many people that work within
29:44
these spaces that even know what it's
29:45
like to like I got ask a question there
29:47
on the red caret and not I keep it short
29:49
lady was like and I know she meant well
29:51
but she was like what was it like to
29:52
fall in love with hip hop I'm like I
29:54
ain't never had I'm waiting for that
29:55
moment like I don't know what you mean
29:56
and they was like oh you don't love
29:57
hipop I'm like no I'm
29:58
black so I never been introduced to
30:01
hip-hop like how do you get introduced
30:03
to hip-hop when you black I was born in
30:05
1993 it's not like it came out
30:08
right you know what I mean I had to get
30:10
introduced to other things but I feel
30:12
like you know it's just always grateful
30:14
to have like people around who
30:16
understand the elements of what's going
30:17
on and what it takes to do this and
30:19
craft it like it just make it much more
30:20
comfortable but I tell you this it's
30:22
it's it's always a uh a wonderful
30:24
feeling to know that people understand
30:26
where you coming from you have that
30:28
connection you know what I mean so I
30:29
appreciate you Vince Staples next time
30:31
let's have fun we'll bring some okay all
30:33
right give it up for Vin Staples man the
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Vince Staples Show on Netflix Netflix
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