Trademark Tiarra Millz & Mani the Mogul On Their Independent Journey in the Industry + Freestyle
May 30, 2023
Tiarra Millz and Mani the Mogul are two young and talented musicians who have been making waves in the hip-hop industry. The duo, known as Trademark, is known for their empowering and inspiring music, and their latest single "Real Independent" has just dropped. Recently, they stopped by Sway In The Morning to discuss their journey as independent women in the music industry. In this blog post, we will take a closer look at their interview and learn more about what it's like to be an independent artist in an industry dominated by major labels.
Tiarra Millz and Mani the Mogul started the interview by sharing their backgrounds and how they met. They revealed that they both come from humble beginnings and had to work hard to achieve their dreams of making music. The conversation quickly turned to the topic of being independent artists in the music industry, and the challenges that come with it. The duo shared that although being independent means more creative control, it also requires more work.
Tiarra and Mani also touched on the importance of staying positive and motivated as independent artists. They revealed how they have faced rejection and criticism, but they have used those experiences to fuel their creativity and drive.
The duo also spoke about their latest single "Real Independent," that is out now!
Tiarra Millz and Mani the Mogul are two women who are making a difference in the music industry. Their drive, determination, and passion for music are inspiring, and their journey as independent artists is a testament to their strength and resilience. "Real Independent" is a song that not only celebrates women, but also celebrates the idea of being independent and taking control of one's own life. We can all learn from Tiarra and Mani's story and their message of empowerment. We wish them all the best in their future endeavors and cannot wait to see what they have in store for us next.
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[Applause]
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I don't even know how long ago that was
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was that a month or so ago a month ago
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and it happened
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it really happened man and unfortunately
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it can't be here in the physical but she
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said he should call up maybe I'll get
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her to call up she's here in the
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spiritual uh trademark are here citizens
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you gotta catch the energy up in this
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room man you gotta catch the energy up
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in this room we got so many bands in the
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safe we turn this [ __ ] into a
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nightclub
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I love it
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it's all right y'all here come on
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[Applause]
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amen amen amen amen come on man what's
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your story Tara what's your story
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talking about what's up with you well we
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both are we were artists individually
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already and you know we started doing
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music together and we think that we had
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a great Rapport you know like we we fit
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really good together so you know we just
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started making music together and then
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it organically went into
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so it was perfect and then you know like
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trademark it's like we we are like our
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own engine like you're literally like
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it's a trademark is so big it's bigger
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than a group exactly it's a it's a
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movement you know what I'm saying like
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we have
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we have our own
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personal I guess fan bases you would say
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that we came with and then we came
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together and brought them together you
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know what I'm saying so it's a whole
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different audience now so that's the
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that's what it is a dual entity a dual
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entity so did y'all grow up in the same
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like how did y'all meet
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oh this is my fiance oh this is your
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feet oh yes this is my fiance
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did not know that yeah at a video shoot
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yes
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okay yeah yeah she went down in my dens
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real Bronx vibes okay and so you're the
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Bronx and you're Brooklyn yeah
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okay so it wasn't no Clash there okay
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and then that's how y'all met yeah it's
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just wow we we Spar together we that's
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my partner in Crown it's my partner in
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life get outside so when y'all in the
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studio doesn't make it more difficult to
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tell Tiara for verse ain't up to par nah
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cause it's I wouldn't it wouldn't come
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out like that it will be like yo make
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that make that something like oh so it's
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just be like nah mommy you got to say
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that a little harder you know what I'm
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saying like and we like we we be in the
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studio crazy like we make beats we
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produce we engineer we we go crazy y'all
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do all of that oh yeah
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I'm trying to find out how did you work
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your way up to having your own Studio
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like what's you know what I mean how'd
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you how'd you learn to make your own
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beats who taught you that ourselves
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really out of necessity
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for real I would call it necessity
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because
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um I think that in this industry uh
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strong women that want to do or when you
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want to do as an artist a lot of people
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kind of do this
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you know and they would just be like hey
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you know you figure it out then so um it
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was more of like all right if I'm gonna
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figure it out I'm gonna figure it out on
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my own terms so you know uh my dad he
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blessed us you know what I'm saying and
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let us work out of the studio and we've
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been building it up and um we make beats
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in there we go crazy we have our artist
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friends I wanted to make these because
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it's not hearing nothing I wanted to
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really hear to me I have a producer
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Flatbush Chaz and he literally saved me
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from what I was trying to explain what's
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this man um Flatbush
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she's one of my top producers and he
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caters more to like
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um old school mixer now so it was like
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perfect but I was like I can't you know
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I can't have them all the time I gotta
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have some different ones but with
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everybody be sending me and be like I
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was like you know what if I want to hear
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something let me let me make it myself
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so I started practicing practicing
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literally has been like three four
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months that I've been doing it and
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so how long have y'all been the rap
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group trademark now about a year about a
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year okay wow yes yes so with you guys
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having an intimate component of this
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business relationship does it help if
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you guys get into an argument to clear
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the air and patch things up quickly
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because you know it also impacts your
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working relationship yeah absolutely as
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soon as possible do you guys ever have
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to vent through your lyrics about each
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other
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no we no it's more of like not really no
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we use we it's a lot of love music a lot
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of love a lot of love if anything I feel
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like it's easier for us to make the
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music together because
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it's just like we know so much about
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each other yeah you know so I feel like
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despite what people may think of us
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being in a couple we may make things
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complicated or whatever it actually
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makes everything easier but if we do get
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into something and we got something to
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do it's like quick we gotta we gotta
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bring it back quick as well because
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energy is everything
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especially as artists it's like my
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energy is off and meet them everybody
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so straight face I could tell you I
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could tell that's that wrong senior
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Manny let me ask you this um when you
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you're the only person that could call
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me Manny
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okay what do you prefer people to call
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you money money my bad I don't want to
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call you Manny I'm gonna call you money
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all right uh money
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but I promise if you call me Manny any
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other time I'm gonna love it and I'm
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gonna still give you the same though
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okay thank you just because when y'all
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said it on the interview before we like
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loved it we just kept screaming in a
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minute
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call me Manny I love it but I'ma call it
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right okay okay I I can't be lazy around
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you you're a star I appreciate you okay
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absolutely it's money
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um when you look at what's going on Lola
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Brooke uh when you see uh Scarlett you
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know uh Girl Code yeah you know it's a
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movement happening out here yes man I'm
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so happy yeah woman power talk about
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that man
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I just really like um the climax I like
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the climate the climax the energy
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um it's it's like everything from the
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80s 90s have been like reversed but put
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into women's bodies if that makes any
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sense yeah like everyone's been
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reincarnated in some type of way and
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they like nah we coming back we're gonna
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come in back of some chicks and we're
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gonna really shut down you know that's
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what I feel like we're at right now
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we're giving that energy that that raw
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New York you know but do you see now
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which is you know the irony yeah it's
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real hip-hop you know but then a shout
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out to Memphis you know uh glitter gloss
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you know gorilla you know the movement
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that's coming out of this coil array
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it's a lot of we play Lotto big Lotto
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out here we love all the ladies and the
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ladies love us now so initially I've
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been in the business uh a long time and
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the idea of an artist being a woman will
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get frowned on them because people that
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you know they would put all the stigma
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on it's gonna cost you more the whole
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nine so you guys couldn't get as much
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opportunity as many doors opening are
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you seeing that change now because we're
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starting to see this women's movement
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definitely yeah what is it like now same
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people that said no saying yeah yes
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absolutely a lot of people are spinning
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the block heavily you know a lot of
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people you know especially I feel like
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being that we started off as individual
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artists A lot of people we had to get
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people to believe in trademark because
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they already believed in Tiara males and
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mighty mobile but we had to get them to
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believe in us so now it's like you know
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we we really here like we really doing
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this so be happy that they spit in the
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block they could keep spinning they
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could keep spinning
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all right I'm gonna go to the phone
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lines we got Bray on the line from
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Baltimore Bray what up what up break
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wait wait what's good you getting a lot
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of names wrong today brother is gray
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d.r.e only two yeah
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all right go ahead
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let me let me stand out for five seconds
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because I finally got got two I've been
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calling this show for a while man uh
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just shout out to Heather B right but it
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had to be saying since all blocked down
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and my kind of [ __ ] with mot uh but my
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question for the trademark is do you
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ever get compared to the girl cougar
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all the time but um we love we love them
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all and um we love both of them and we
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definitely just kind of like we we see
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each other like we don't see each other
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I love everyone but we see each other
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but we don't see each other so it's like
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more of like you know when we link up
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we'll link up it's like that we get
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compared a lot of things just because we
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like skin and brown skin I didn't want
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to say that because it's really like no
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comparison in my opinion because it's
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just two different things
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that's the best way I could put it you
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know but you're not big on comparison
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yeah definitely yeah yeah definitely
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definitely got an original saying one of
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y'all to me sound a little like little
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Kim I like it though
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all right hey hey Dre we appreciate you
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man
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that was my little sisters
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you know I was on that mixtape I did
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something
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y'all make that much money
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trademark I'm being honest and I'm not
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throwing [ __ ] not trying to throw shade
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on the one I'm not gonna name any names
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but I'm telling you you guys rap better
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than some of these dudes that's been in
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the game for a while
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that was fire and I can honestly see you
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guys collaborating with like uh cardi b
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or Megan the stallion something like
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that you know what I'm saying I mean
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just keep your head up keep doing what
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you're doing you got a fan thank you
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thank you so much we love Florida too we
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play Florida deal
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I'm in I'm in Orlando
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yeah yeah yeah
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our friend from
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Orlando's call you guys this is story
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right we were asleep we were asleep
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knocked out and I my phone went off and
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I never pick it up but uh my phone was
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going through through so I looked and
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she was like she put the number and she
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said cool right now they listening to
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artists and I was like what so I just
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called now I got my deep voice right now
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so I'm like hello yeah there's somebody
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to mobile calling from Brooklyn New York
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and he was like all right please hold I
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was like oh [ __ ] I was like yeah oh my
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God
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so it was like you know it was just it
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was God God man God you got him do you
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guys feel like you've been
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um attracting more of a male audience
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now absolutely because to sway's point
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as we're seeing you know the game
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involves so many more rappers who happen
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to be women initially would be like oh
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only women would listen to cardi and
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like a dude will be like I can
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understand that she's talented but I'm
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not gonna go through her album but now I
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feel like it's changing where God could
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really sit with a woman's entire
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perspective for 60 Minutes yes I I agree
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like most of our fan base is definitely
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guys wow for real for real like and I
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think it's more so because like we are
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more like aggressive not aggressive like
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you know but like just assertive and
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strong-minded and you know we're not
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just like
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so he literally you know we went out we
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was just in Florida and you know he
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invited us out we want to um you know a
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chance to go on his show and rap with
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him
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yeah let's see if we can pull that up
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because I know if y'all rap with Arsenal
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Y'all Gonna rap for us right oh yeah oh
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yeah for sure okay we got something for
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you you know we can give you a little
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bit what's some business tips you want
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to give other
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um artists who are women out there right
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now uh specifically like what would you
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based on the trials and tribulations
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y'all you've been through which is
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slightly different you know I would
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definitely say read
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um I would say take your time always get
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a second opinion on things like you know
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sometimes in this day and age everything
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is so rushed and everybody want to move
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fast so they just make decisions on the
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Fly and end up you know
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something you know don't skip no steps
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because you're just gonna have to come
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back and redo them anyway because you're
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gonna mess up and you gotta come back so
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relearn yeah the best advice I could
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give is read if you sign and stuff read
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it always get a second opinion you know
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and and just take your time like
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everything don't need to be rushed
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camera straightness okay I love this man
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trademark right here man protect your
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energy people around you need to protect
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your energy too yes okay we're gonna
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come back and hear some bars I'm gonna
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hear what y'all was talking about real
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quick let's do it what's up Arsenal
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I see what we doing now
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we got the Mogul up in here
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Mills
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Brooklyn in the Bronx connection yeah
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Brooklyn in the Bronx connection New
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York New York I love it man that it all
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started with a phone call who was it
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Ruby yeah Ruby gemstone from the Bronx
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shout out to Ruby I'm in the Bronx all
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the time over on Gun Hill and White
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Plains Road Mills all right yeah okay
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that's a little further up in the
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everywhere I'm just trying to let y'all
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understand I'll be in Harlem a lot they
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know me in Harlem like we in Oakland I
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Go Everywhere I Go to different
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countries I go to different states I go
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to different cities period I thought
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you're supposed to be but there's no
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place
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like the belly of the hyenas
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to ever grab the mic if she not in your
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top three that you don't know anything
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about hip-hop we got the one and only
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Heather B on the line
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the bus was so quiet y'all put the bad
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signal out all the way to New Jersey
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where's this heat coming from all the
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way from New York to New Jersey yeah I
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got fired up I had to pick up my phone
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I love it I love it I love it I hear the
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energy I hear the passing I'm so so so
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proud of y'all man this is absolutely
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beautiful and I told Sway and Tracy G
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just last week I love the fact that the
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female artist that's coming out right
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now I don't want to put the female on it
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like that but you know the female artist
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that's coming out right now y'all are
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using y'all ain't trying to sound like
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nobody but y'all and I love that thank
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you thank you thank you thank you so
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much we really appreciate you you need
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that call we need that energy
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I got one more one more for her you're
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good oh yeah no you won't bring it bring
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it back we'll bring it back so I had HP
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online now you know I'm playing you you
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know you play it right now I was about
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to say bring that back bring it back
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okay
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Talk of the Town has y'all been biting
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this style this wine posting a while
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let's give it Dapper Dan but I'm Gucci
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taking back my drip time to smoke some
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[ __ ] These Hoes packs his lit and broke
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already so it's time to be rich big
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mobile Brooklyn gave me the grip my mama
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I don't listen to [ __ ] my daddy say I'm
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too entitled sport a little bit I guess
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that's just my niche
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the hardest artist coming out the East
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ready to Feast don't quit like Della
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Reese ain't no punchline [ __ ] this that
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real rap I tried to sell packs but that
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ain't work out digging on the five [ __ ]
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I ran out bet on yourself I better pan
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out Lord knows how much we gave up for
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this moment so I hope it's felt like
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Jack Johnson when he got the belt this
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for my ancestors
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Commandments in your face it broke every
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rule listen for proof I ain't trying to
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be rude but if the shoe fit where it
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every year we had to bury [ __ ] I call
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you [ __ ] cause you the real [ __ ] gotta
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pick the picture make you see it clearer
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the bad news mirrors gotta hold up the
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mirror
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there we go
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yeah let's get this [ __ ] right yeah
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I told his very own yeah we giving James
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[Music]
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more important
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[Music]
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[Music]
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[Music]
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[Music]
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trademark everything yo you see it's
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getting real
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[Music]
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[Music]
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[Music]
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[Music]
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[Music]
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[Music]
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you know
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is that your name rude that's not your
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name what's up that's on this shirt
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cause we different These Hoes not
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[ __ ] with us our payment ship is
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pretty pretty
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[Applause]
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girls
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yo yo
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bear witness citizens bear witness it
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all started from a phone call look what
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it's doing now shout out to Arsenal too
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[Applause]
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[Music]
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[Music]
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the way you rap rap you rhyme different
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with pin ship
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off the top of the head that's what I
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appreciate the skill level the crap I
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know y'all putting in that work I could
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see it in your energy you love this with
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the passion and that's what you need
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those are the ingredients you need to
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reach your goals you're already doing it
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look at it it's manifested right here
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we're present and your goal right this
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is a moment this is a big moment I was
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actually nervous I'm never good yeah it
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was a different type of nose the money
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in your stomach
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just like oh my God
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I think I need some water good but guess
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what you're gonna walk out of this
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building and you're gonna feel like
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you're in heaven yes ain't that what
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happened is right we're living in our
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purpose yes right and you're doing it in
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front of the world okay
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[Applause]
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trademark trademark make sure you follow
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them how can they follow trademark
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that's trademark music NYC on Instagram
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on YouTube check us out about to do some
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big things you know what oh and we got a
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new single out real independent yeah you
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were just playing that but yeah shout
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out to uh little Independence I'm sure
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y'all go all platforms check it out
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video coming soon real independent I'm
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not mad at that we also want to thank
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Our Guest IDK for coming by today yeah
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he got the new album f65 been years
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since I first saw that brother to watch
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his star just rise and rise and he's
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doing it this way independent
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independently minded in the whole nine
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