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STERLING K. BROWN on 'Honk For Jesus. Save Your Soul' with REGINA HALL, Post 'THIS IS US' & More
Aug 20, 2022
Actor Sterling K. Brown was a part of one of the most iconic series in Television history, 'This Is Us'. And now that it is over he is talking about the experience and what he is on to next. He stopped by Sway In The Morning to talk about his new movie 'Honk For Jesus. Save Your Soul' alongside Regina Hall.
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STERLING K. BROWN on 'Honk For Jesus. Save Your Soul' with REGINA HALL, Post 'THIS IS US' & More
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all things are possible with god yes sir
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you heard it in the trailer won't he do
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it won't he do it he does it won't he
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will won't he will
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all the tenses you better know it
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you know we living manifestations of
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that hp
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come on whoever thought that lightning
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was strike twice
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and it has citizens because our next
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guest has been on this show before and i
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thought we may never see him again on
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this show again lightning has struck
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twice let's get it won't he do it won't
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he
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well come on man
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last time we were here we gave him such
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an introduction introduction to 10
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minutes
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we couldn't cover everything he
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accomplished right
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man you are such an inspiration yeah
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brother you are a true inspiration when
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i watch your work i see your dedication
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i see your commitment when you work i
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don't feel like you're working for
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yourself you're working to benefit
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others as well who are impacted by your
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work
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you're doing such an excellent job man
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and you do it on purpose indian medals i
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remember we talked about your company
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and how that formed and i see the work
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you're doing i know you're hiring more
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in a more diverse way than hollywood
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typically would you you know you're
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bending the averages for us and i just
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want to say thank you appreciate you
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continued success
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and welcome back to the show the one and
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only sterling k brown was here
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let's talk about your health
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what you talking about you look amazing
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dog man you know so for for honk for
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jesus i hired a nutritionist
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uh got on a workout plan you know what
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i'm saying did a little body sculpting
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because i thought the pastor really
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cared about how he looked so i wanted to
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try and care about how i looked up in
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this piece
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and then just in general bro you know
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how it is in our community with black
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men in particular yeah i feel like so
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many of us think that like 65 is like
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about as best we can hope for
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so you try to model something different
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because sometimes it's hard to imagine
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it if you haven't seen it yes so that's
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the goal for me my pops passed when he
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was 45. wow i'm from one year past that
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already come on hold up hold up
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that's so unfortunate too because
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we do think like that we do that most
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black men i know think they don't think
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past 50. yeah a lot didn't think past
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25. yeah i don't know if the world
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understands that trauma that's in us for
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sure yeah bro like it's when you think
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that you only have so much time it can
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cause you to make choices that might be
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different if you thought you had a
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lifetime like if you thought you were
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going to be around to see grandkids and
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great grandkids you might make different
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choices right but the social pressures
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the anxieties that you're talking about
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the health sort of concerns sometimes we
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feel like it and
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i'm going to give a shout out to ryan
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michellebathe my wife was like bro go go
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get a checkup there you go go go make
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sure everything is right with your body
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like women are much better at that than
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men are in general right so it's like my
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dad he got sick he had sugar diabetes
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didn't know it till the day that he died
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because he didn't go to the hospital how
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did that work
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did he go to the hospital that day that
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day his body sort of just shut down and
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wound up having a heart attack that day
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in the hospital but i'm saying like
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there's so much fear because a lot of
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folks associate the hospital as the
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place that you go to doc
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not the place that you go to get well
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right so i'm just saying like if you
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feel something is off with your body
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everybody black men specifically check
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that out
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this dirt can get better sterling k
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brown
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i had to ask him heather yeah with
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sterling and i want to know since you
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lost your dad so young how did you then
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approach fatherhood
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it's a great question so i felt like for
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the first 10 years i had it on lot
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because that's i was 10 when he passed
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away i was like all right the first 10
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years i know to do it i'm just going to
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pour all the love that i have into these
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children because even though it was just
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10 years
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i still feel like a well of love that
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that dude poured into me that i get a
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chance to carry around with me for a
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lifetime amen now i'm sort of in the
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uncharted territory never got a chance
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to really talk about puberty and all
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that stuff my boy is 11 now and he's
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like dad
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he like
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my man literally
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he took his
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he took his penis oh moved it to the
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side and said i got a hair
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i said way to go big boy
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like it's happening you know what i'm
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saying and the thing about that i love
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about is that we've always sort of had a
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household where we talk about things
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like your body will go through changes
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i just dropped some deodorant on him the
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other day like hey man gonna have to
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start using this every day now you know
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what i'm saying he's like okay cool i
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was like he's like am i stink i was like
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no just before we're doing preventative
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action
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we get to that place so i love that
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we've created that sort of space and so
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he can ask me questions and feel
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comfortable showing me and i'm like good
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for you yeah i noticed that that
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fatherly pride right there
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he said he moved his penis to the side
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way to go big boy
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you know
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that came from me son
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show me the little hair that's just like
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that
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but that's a tremendous feat like to
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have that level of intimacy with your
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child because there's many different
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generations where it's like no dad mom
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like you're an adult i'm a kid and i
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want there to be a very clear line
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between us absolutely we
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we've tried to change that my wife and i
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made a concerted effort we made one
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thing early on that was really her call
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it was regarding corporal punishment she
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said we're not we're not gonna do it and
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i was like really cause sometimes they
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hard-headed and i kind of feel like they
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could get it she's like no we're not
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gonna do it and it tests you as a parent
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and your patients and you're willing to
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engage in conversation yeah to explain
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yourself because back in the day it's
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because i said so negro yeah that was
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the answer that's the end of it and now
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i have to be in a place where like all
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right i've made a decision and it's
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supposed to be for your good i need to
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communicate to the
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to you the reason that this is for your
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benefit and so there's a conversation
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that sometimes is exhausting but the
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fact that he recognizes that his voice
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is important and he gets to express his
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point of view is something that the wife
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and i thought was really important in
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terms of developing a human being that
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brings me to this is us i mean every
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single person who knows me who hears my
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voice on the show hears me say
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constantly that this is us should be
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required viewing for all humanity come
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on now this is us in my opinion is the
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goat show hands down for me yeah like
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over
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you know good times
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you know what i mean
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you know we've got some arguments yeah
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i say it proudly yeah
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i will not back down
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but um but hearing you speak about this
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conversation you have your wife the
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decisions you made in your family of
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course that makes me think of this as us
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and how much that has helped its viewers
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it provides language yes for really
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tough conversations
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and and this is us i mean anyone who's
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seen it even if you do see it you'll
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figure it out in the first episode but
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the family of the pearsons lose
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their patriarch yeah they do you know um
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with um jack obviously and so i'm
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wondering with the last two questions
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with the loss of a tv father
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how that then if it can traumatize you
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again with your own experiences and then
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also how this is us just shaped you as a
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man and form the way that you move as a
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husband and then as a father
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good questions i love that you love the
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show because i do too
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i mean look i love norman lear too okay
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norman yeah look i'm all in the family
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from st louis you know fox gets a lot of
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love
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no doubt no doubt and shout out to
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northern leo is almost is he a hundred i
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think he made 100. he made i think he
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made a bill yeah and shout out to all
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the writers that helped give him the
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ideas amen amen for show that part that
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part
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um the show and like the the way that
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jack affected the pearsons i think in
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particular with his with his children
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his wife obviously
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carrying that load and raising these
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children these two boys and this girl
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all by herself is is tremendous in and
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of itself but i think for randall and
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for kevin
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sort of like who gets to be the man of
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the house right sort of shaped the both
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of them and sort of created a bit of a
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sibling rivalry that was there even
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before like randall being the nerd kevin
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being the jock like who gets a chance to
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sort of like fill in dad's shoes at this
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point in time and it took them a
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lifetime to find like synchronicity with
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one another it doesn't have to be either
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or it can be both of us right and then
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kate thinking that she like was
9:18
responsible by like having the dog and
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leaving the dog up in the crib
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grief is such an interesting thing we've
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all lost people
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it takes varying levels of time and it's
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not like it ever goes away completely
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but it gets a little bit less loud
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you know and you like you learn to live
9:36
with that that noise in the background
9:38
of like oh man i miss that guy yeah
9:41
like it would have been cool if he could
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have seen my kids you know what i'm
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saying like i and i i sort of live with
9:45
that same sort of thing like oh man he
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would love these two little boys who
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look like him right now you know what
9:51
i'm saying but like it gets easier and
9:53
and then i think me being a person of of
9:56
deep spirituality knows that he's still
9:59
here yes and i think the pearson family
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reaches that jack is still there oh yeah
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with them right how did the show shape
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me as a father
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uh as a human being i think randall
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asked me to be the best version of
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myself
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for six years almost to the point where
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when i was slacking at home my wife
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would look at me and be like i need you
10:20
to do what randall would do right now
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damn
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tap into randall
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and i'll be like i gotta stop watching
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basketball
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randall don't watch basketball
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i gotta get up and do this christmas
10:35
tree jack brandon love christmas
10:38
so like it was it was a good character
10:41
to bring home because like my wife loved
10:44
real talk my wife never has a problem
10:47
with any sort of intimacy thing that i
10:49
ever have on camera susan kalechi
10:51
watson's shout out to her they get along
10:53
like peas in a pod come on the only time
10:55
she had a problem with randall was when
10:57
we did that alt randall and he was
10:59
imagining his life when he had never met
11:02
like william and everything and randall
11:04
like hooked up with like random chicks
11:05
she's like i don't like this nasty
11:08
these women they randomly looking over
11:10
here now a nasty
11:13
that was the only time she ever had a
11:15
problem and he barely did anything
11:16
outside of it but that's how invested
11:19
she was in the character too you know
11:21
what i'm saying so it was it was a great
11:23
six years of my life i got no complaints
11:25
yes sterling k brown man he walks in you
11:28
look happy every time we see you man i'm
11:30
happy you had that experience and you
11:32
mentioned spirituality and when i look
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at a hunk for jesus save your soul you
11:36
know my my journey was spirituality
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versus religion yeah yeah you know right
11:42
yes distinction the great distinction
11:44
and you know when i was younger i didn't
11:46
understand that distinction i just
11:47
thought maybe am i being sack religious
11:50
or you know blasphemous the way i feel
11:52
about some religion absolutely some of
11:54
the practices and some of the people who
11:56
preside over some of the pastors and
11:58
bishops we just saw a pastor who was
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robbed in brooklyn in brooklyn
12:02
doing a live stream
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yeah
12:07
and so that was you know those moments
12:10
were always my conflict and i'm
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wondering for you yeah i'm studying as
12:14
lee curtis childs this pastor i know you
12:16
did a lot of research um what what is
12:19
your position on spirituality versus
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religion two two completely different
12:23
things and to what you were saying i
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think most of us are raised and
12:28
inculcated in one particular thing and
12:30
you believe in that thing because that's
12:32
what your parents believe in and then
12:34
you reach an age in your particular life
12:36
you're like alright what is it that i
12:37
believe actually authentically myself
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and what can i leave behind or what else
12:42
is there something that i'm looking to
12:44
explore that could be added to this mix
12:46
that gives me a fuller understanding of
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what is divine and my personal
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relationship with divinity
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right because you can't let anybody else
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legislate your relationship with god yes
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like it's it's between you and god right
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and so you try to make it fit and look a
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certain way and that's not anything
13:05
other than just sort of like pushing out
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uh an image to people they'll see look
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i'm holy you don't have to do that like
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for me it's like i know what my
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relationship is with god and i love it i
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can look myself in the mirror and know
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that i hold myself accountable and
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there's also for me in terms of the
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spirituality versus religion there's a
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critical thinking that you have to bring
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to it that you can't just say like all
13:28
right the book says this so that's the
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way it goes but sometimes the book says
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things that don't make sense with your
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soul
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and it's okay it's okay to question i
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think god even in the bible says he
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wants us to question he doesn't want
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automatons he doesn't want people who
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follow blindly he wants people follow
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consciously
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so i mean for me
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it's a huge distinction and it causes
13:54
friction with the family bro absolutely
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talk about mad friction with the family
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people are praying for your boy's
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immortal soul all the time
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and i'm okay with that yeah because it's
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coming from a place of love and i used
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to be in a very similar place myself i
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mean
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there's in this movie there's a whole
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sort of uh like question about lgbtq
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that i don't want to get too deep into
14:17
it because i want you to go see the
14:18
movie coming out september 2nd or in
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theaters and on peacock or whatnot and
14:23
your producer on the movie but i am a
14:25
producer on the film right but like it
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asks these questions about the boxes
14:29
that we put ourselves into to fit the
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image that other people think we should
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be of what religious looks like what it
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looks like rather than off bringing your
14:38
authentic self to it and being like god
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loves me as i am god don't explode
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exclude nobody
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you know what i'm saying that's that's
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my two cents i love it when i look at
14:49
the uh lee curtis childs in the in the
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moments that i've seen him i'm trying to
14:54
think hmm that reminds me oh lord that
14:56
reminds me of you don't get me in
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trouble with the lawyers no no no no no
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i'm not going to do that there ain't
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nobody in particular i'm supposed to say
15:02
that before
15:03
you even ask this question but listen
15:06
man it's a it's a kind of uh
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you you see that image it's almost like
15:11
rappers almost you know it's almost like
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rappers it's a certain image the common
15:16
image that's been branded yeah you know
15:18
especially when it comes to mega church
15:20
pastors you know they got a certain
15:22
energy they got a certain stick to them
15:24
you know it's hard to be humble when you
15:25
starting on the jumbotron come on man
15:27
you got private jets and you know you
15:29
got a whole congregation but but just
15:31
not who you
15:33
were inspired by in this character but
15:35
as sterling k brown who are some of
15:37
those charismatic pastors that you think
15:39
stand out i'm a kirk franklin fan gotta
15:42
love kurt okay smile come on come on um
15:46
he just had a tiny desk i was like you
15:47
better rock out on this tiny desk
15:50
uh who who inspires me
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uh
15:53
uh no weapon formed against me uh um
15:56
no
15:57
weapon
15:59
uh fred hammond okay whoo
16:01
wow i went at the song right there
16:03
because that song is amazing it will
16:05
literally make you
16:06
get into that space hb come on thank you
16:09
very much uh i love him i listen i watch
16:12
td i watch craft flow i watch joel i was
16:14
watching joel osteen he got a lot of
16:16
makeup but y'all 59. joe almost six
16:20
years i looked it up as i was watching i
16:22
was like joe joe you look good
16:25
and you we say black don't crack joe
16:27
looks pretty all right
16:28
joe comes up here all the time he looks
16:30
pretty good i would say more so than
16:32
even the mega folks that that we see on
16:35
tv or whatnot
16:37
pastors that i attended when i was in
16:38
saint louis missouri my best friend's a
16:40
pk preacher's kid going to his dad's
16:43
church um was was inspirational to me
16:46
because you see all the different styles
16:48
right that that go into it i always as
16:52
as a student appreciate a good teacher
16:54
yes
16:55
like if you can teach the word in a way
16:57
that is understandable and digestible
16:59
that's cool my mama would often say i
17:01
don't need all that yelling
17:02
[Music]
17:08
look brown as a performer i like a good
17:11
show too i ain't gonna lie to you like i
17:13
like a little bit of both you know what
17:15
i'm saying like because there is a
17:17
contagious infectious energy when people
17:19
can move the crowd
17:22
it's an emcee you know what i'm saying
17:23
when the crowd gets moved and the and
17:25
the organ starts pumping in the back
17:28
atmosphere
17:32
nothing like being in church and seeing
17:35
folks catch the spirit yeah yeah like
17:37
and there's there's a little line there
17:39
of a little girl in the in the movie
17:40
where she says like i love the theater
17:43
because like there's a theatrical
17:44
component to the black church that if
17:47
you haven't been in it you can't
17:48
understand it and like you bring your
17:49
white friend they're like wow this is
17:51
really different
17:54
somebody catch the holy ghost it's the
17:56
best it's the best sternly k brown man i
17:59
love it i love it we got my our nephew
18:01
is in here say what's up bro say what's
18:03
up tell everybody your name my name is
18:05
ryan ryan give it up for ryan man we
18:07
know this kid since he was two
18:09
he came here today because you were
18:11
gonna be on the show no
18:20
three years ago three years ago wow not
18:23
long ago pandemic man you know what i'm
18:25
saying we got to be cautious out here in
18:26
these streets lord have mercy it is it's
18:29
my first time back in new york since
18:31
since the pandemic it's so good to be
18:33
here i miss this city so we miss you
18:38
bro yeah like it's i i feel like we're
18:40
gonna be living with it for the rest of
18:42
our lives we just got to live safely
18:43
with it there it is good choices yo you
18:45
got a question you want to ask him real
18:47
quick what up ryan um
18:49
[Music]
18:51
i really have a question he doesn't have
18:53
a question you have a question i got a
18:54
question for you i was talking to him
18:56
outside you're talking to me about your
18:58
game basketball right he's a guard okay
19:01
he goes back and forth between the one
19:02
and two he's got handle he's a natural
19:04
left-hander okay okay he's still
19:06
developing the right right now but he
19:07
does have a three okay he likes to bomb
19:09
from outside stephanie who do you model
19:11
your game after
19:13
um
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probably
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kyrie or kyrie irving
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most of the guards who can handle the
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ball well okay john marant
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yeah ja ja has an explosiveness to him
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yeah but you do you have a dunk shot yet
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no
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it's coming still got some inches yeah
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but mostly kyrie kyrie irving oh kyrie's
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handle is stupid yeah crazy you know
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stephen curry i'm a from oakland
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warriors stephanie
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yeah i like him but
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he's like look how he raised his butt
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i'm from here he's like i appreciate is
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kyrie going to move do we know this is
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he you think he's gonna stay yeah will
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kd stay no
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katie's gone yeah he has like he's
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saying he wants to leave with or without
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kyrie okay how do you feel about that
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are you okay with it um
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it ain't going to be nobody who can like
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match kd it's going to be a tough year
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i'm just getting you ready for it right
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now right thanks you're going to ride
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you're right brian you like the brooklyn
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nets over the new york knicks yeah and i
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see you at the yankee games a lot with
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your dad so yankees over mets yeah net's
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over nick's yankees over mets gotcha
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yeah won't you go outside with your dad
20:29
to your study stephen curry
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we'll learn more about the warriors kids
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it's your team sterling
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being from st louis you grow up without
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a team so i was a bulls fan obviously
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because you you love jordan um i love
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lebron
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yes i love lebron on and off the court
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absolutely so like i tried to roll with
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the lakers
20:51
the i love russ i love russ's energy
20:54
westbrook
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i i love his hustle
21:00
decision making people keep decision
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making decision-making that's all i'm
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going to say that's i love i don't want
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to be speak critical of people that i
21:07
love you know what i'm saying
21:09
they gave up a lot but i do i'm curious
21:11
to see what the clippers do this year
21:13
with a healthy with a healthy kawhi yeah
21:15
a healthy pg-13 like i think they have a
21:18
chance to do some some interesting
21:19
things okay
21:21
whatever hey
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yo he can't give me much love to
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golden's oh you don't even need a
21:27
sterling k
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brown love to go this way take out all
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the love
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with his four rings has catapulted
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himself
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top ten easily of all time arguably top
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five
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top
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five okay
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let me say
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i don't know how many people have
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changed the game the way that he has
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since jordan um like shaq changed the
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game the way that you had to defend in
21:57
the post the way that this man can pull
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up from anywhere once you pass half
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court you have to guard him the way that
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he can create his own shot yeah and pull
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up from anywhere you you got to give him
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kiss props he is incredible yeah really
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it's once he leaves the locker room you
22:15
have to guard him he'll shoot from him
22:19
sterling k brown man i want to make
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remind everybody hunk for jesus save
22:22
your soul in theaters and on peacock
22:25
september the second yes very proud of
22:27
you very inspired by you you are
22:30
on the screen and off the screen that's
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the same way you feel about lebron we
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feel about you all right and you made a
22:36
a really nice um you know hip-hop
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reference when you said move the crowd
22:41
see i know you heard it i heard it you
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heard it i heard it you know i knew it
22:45
shout out to regina hall too shout out
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to rebecca shout out to him um danielle
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we love regina we love daniel of course
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jordan pills
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rock him is that one of your favorite
22:55
all-time mc's how could not be
22:58
that brother that brother learns how to
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do this circular breathing thing uh-huh
23:02
y'all know what i'm talking about talk
23:03
about it to where he can inhale and
23:05
exhale he can like keep a verse going
23:08
longer than other people would because
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like he's inhaling and like speaking at
23:12
the same time that's like
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that's
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dedicated yes
23:16
stupid stupid right stupid how many
23:19
people like like holding verses like pun
23:21
used to do you know what i'm saying just
23:22
like spitting out almost 30 40 seconds
23:24
at a time on one breath
23:27
crazy
23:28
rocking the legendary okay all right
23:30
sterling k brown thank you for coming
23:32
back brother always love you family all
23:34
right come on
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