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SNOWFALL's Amin Joseph on The FINAL Season, NAACP Award Nomination, & Johnny Depp | SWAY'S UNIVERSE
Feb 24, 2023
FX's acclaimed drama series Snowfall has captivated viewers since July 2017, when it first aired. Co-created by the late director John Singleton (Boyz n The Hood), this show delivers a stunning level of quality that invokes classic gangster films - witness its uncompromising gruesomeness and sociological commentary on drug dealing and addiction! It is no wonder that Damson Idris gained international fame through his leading role in the program; furthermore, FX enjoyed record ratings for this remarkable production which can shock you with heartwarming moments before all too soon brutally snatching them away from fans.
Now in its final season, Amin Joseph aka Uncle Jerome stopped by Sway In The Morning to talk about the final season.
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Amin Joseph on The FINAL Season of SNOWFALL, NAACP Award Nomination, & Johnny Depp | SWAY'S UNIVERSE
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Yeah, man. Yeah, man. Let's clap that
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one up.
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Let's go. Let's clap that one up.
0:07
One more.
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That was the season 6 trailer for
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Snowfall.
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Season 6.
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Let's go. Final season.
0:13
And Tracy is the biggest Snowfall junkie
0:16
in the crew.
0:16
there at that on that screen. That's the
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big fan.
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in before we get to that.
0:22
Want to say it was 2017 when our good
0:24
friend John Singleton
0:25
Mhm.
0:26
came up here and he he had to tell us
0:28
about this series. Rest in power to John
0:30
Singleton. Please give that man a round
0:32
of applause.
0:33
Mhm.
0:33
When we say his name, and he was so
0:35
excited about it. And that at the point
0:38
where we all start watching it. And then
0:39
we fell in love with the characters, and
0:41
we fell in love with the plot, and we
0:43
fell in love with the history of LA. And
0:46
even
0:47
the drug scene in LA and what was going
0:49
on socially, the context that they put
0:51
into Snowfall has been amazing. And so
0:55
today joining us
0:57
is Uncle Jerome, Saint, ladies and
0:59
gentlemen.
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The yard father.
1:01
The yard father. AKA A-man, Joseph is
1:05
here.
1:06
A-man.
1:06
What?
1:07
Jamming Jerome.
1:08
Yeah, man.
1:10
Man, you may have seen him in Baywatch.
1:12
Yeah.
1:14
That's where I That's where I saw him.
1:16
You may have seen him in City of Lies,
1:19
which was an incredible show series
1:21
where they actually you played the
1:22
officer Kevin Gaines in that.
1:25
And they were looking into the
1:27
the murder cases of Tupac and Biggie.
1:29
Yeah.
1:30
Right? And today we're going to
1:31
celebrate this season 6 and find out
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what's going on with you, A-man. Welcome
1:35
to the show, brother. Welcome to the
1:36
show.
1:37
Let's go.
1:38
Come on, man.
1:39
Let's go.
1:39
I wanted to ask you that though.
1:41
We're going to talk about a lot, but
1:43
with City of Lies, I find it interesting
1:45
when you have these type of investigator
1:47
shows or series where they go into real
1:49
life happenings that took place. And if
1:51
you're an actor, you know, that forces
1:53
you to kind of research and learn. And
1:55
I'm curious, did you learn anything
1:57
about the murders of Tupac and Biggie
2:00
while
2:01
being on that show on that show?
2:03
Yeah, it's all about taking that source
2:05
material, right? And and there was a
2:07
book called Labyrinth that it that was
2:09
written as far cuz I did both. I did
2:12
Unsolved
2:13
Yeah.
2:13
which was on USA which was about the
2:15
untimely death of both The Notorious
2:17
B.I.G. and Tupac Shakur. And then I did,
2:21
you know, City of Lies which really
2:23
focused on Tupac.
2:25
Mhm.
2:25
Um so for both, yeah, I did I took as
2:27
much research material of course there
2:30
was there was like IP that those
2:31
particular um productions were focused
2:35
on.
2:35
Mhm.
2:36
So for that narrative, I basically
2:39
looked at that and said, "Okay, these
2:41
are two different productions. They both
2:44
lead out to different outcomes. So I'm
2:47
going to take those things as fact
2:49
Mhm.
2:49
and and play my character accordingly.
2:52
Okay.
2:52
That's the political way to say it.
2:54
way of saying it.
2:55
That's the So so you're running for
2:56
office, Amen?
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Uh um your character Jerome Saint um
3:03
has gone through a metamorphosis of
3:05
sorts.
3:06
Yeah.
3:06
Talk about the development of this
3:08
character.
3:10
Wow. Well, like I said, he kind of
3:12
started as as the uh father, you know?
3:15
He started with as this man that
3:17
that understood that he was living
3:21
within really four blocks of existence.
3:25
That he controlled everything within
3:27
that. Um he understood what he was
3:30
doing. He understood the law.
3:33
He understood his family dynamic.
3:35
And I feel like he was king of his
3:37
kingdom.
3:38
And his his his nephew brought a drug a
3:42
drug that could be flipped only in white
3:45
neighborhoods. He realized that that was
3:47
outside of his comfort zone. And he
3:50
didn't want to do it until of course,
3:52
finding out that it could be rocked up
3:54
and how like he saw dollar signs and I
3:57
think that became part of the um
4:01
part of his downfall.
4:02
Yeah.
4:03
Is realizing that he could make the
4:04
money
4:05
but um a part of a lot of our downfall,
4:08
right?
4:08
it, yeah.
4:09
You know? And we realize that we can
4:11
make money from nefarious ways and it's
4:14
kind of like how long can we do it
4:16
before we get caught before we get
4:17
caught up
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and um and meet our peril.
4:20
Mhm.
4:21
You know? It's a cautionary tale in a
4:23
sense.
4:23
It's a cautionary tale and and then and
4:25
if something that's per- a scenario that
4:27
might be perpendicular to that is it may
4:30
not have to do with um you know, doing
4:32
things that are illegal, but when you're
4:33
in this entertainment business,
4:35
sometimes you take jobs, you might be
4:37
tempted to take jobs for money
4:40
Yeah.
4:40
that that you didn't you know,
4:42
Not necessarily crazy about.
4:43
Yeah, you weren't res- necessarily crazy
4:44
about. Did you ever find yourself having
4:46
to do that?
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We call them burgers in our
4:49
business.
4:49
Okay, burgers.
4:50
Yummy.
4:51
Sounds delicious.
4:53
You You ate some burgers?
4:55
That's Tracy saying that. I haven't
4:56
eaten
4:58
Got extra cheese on them burgers?
5:00
They got the pickles and onions on that
5:02
burger, too.
5:03
What would you call what like in your
5:05
career what would have been a What would
5:06
have been a burger job?
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Oh, man, I would never do that, baby.
5:09
Okay. Okay.
5:10
Sometimes Listen, sometimes you got to
5:12
Sometimes you got to be a plumber. You
5:14
got to deal with
5:15
Yeah.
5:15
You know? But you always know that maybe
5:17
you're going to own that plumbing
5:18
business at some point.
5:20
Right.
5:20
know that's a means to an end. And um
5:22
it's okay to do jobs. There's a lot of
5:25
people that will say, you know, hold out
5:27
and do
5:28
um you know, only high auspices stuff
5:31
and and and for those people,
5:33
congratulations that that's your walk.
5:36
For some others, we got to get it sort
5:38
of out the mud, you know? And that mean
5:41
that you might have to do something off
5:42
off off Broadway. That may mean that you
5:45
need to develop something just in your
5:47
own community and work on your own pod
5:50
series or something and that stuff may
5:52
not be good. The only way to craft
5:54
something really good in my experience
5:58
is to do some of those things that may
6:00
not turn out well. You got all the great
6:03
intention but it may not turn out well.
6:05
You feel me? And and that's just part of
6:08
the process. I believe that everybody
6:10
probably got a burger in the back.
6:12
Got a burger in their belly
6:13
somewhere, right?
6:14
Come on. And their testings well, look
6:16
at the decisions the decisions you made
6:19
must be aligned with your purpose
6:21
because congratulations to Amen Joseph
6:24
for being nominated for NAACP
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Look at that. Actor.
6:29
That's what's up.
6:30
Come on. From the from the house to
6:32
the penthouse.
6:32
From the house to the penthouse.
6:34
Look at that.
6:35
What does that mean for you though?
6:37
How did How did that make you feel when
6:39
you know you got nominated for an NAACP?
6:41
That's different. I mean, you do a lot
6:42
of work in the community anyway.
6:44
Yeah.
6:44
You know. So, how does that make you
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feel?
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It makes me feel like I'm being seen.
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And as an artist, that's the one thing
6:52
that you want. You want You want to be
6:54
seen. You want to be You do want to
6:56
congratulations for when you put in the
6:58
work. When you especially when
7:01
culturally
7:03
you know, everyone knows that Snowfall
7:05
deals with a really tough
7:09
And sometimes that work it can it can
7:13
kind of be like, man, do we need to see
7:14
another crack show?
7:16
Do we need to see our people deprived,
7:19
depravity, like do Is that what all
7:22
Those are the only stories we get? A
7:24
slave narratives and then stories about
7:27
our demise.
7:29
I can hear that, you know?
7:31
But at the same time,
7:33
if we do attack those issues, we should
7:36
do it with some authenticity. Because
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the truth is that there are grandmothers
7:41
and grandfathers. There are aunts and
7:43
uncles right now that have dealt with
7:46
those times and had to deal with the
7:48
trauma, the anxiety, had to deal with
7:50
bringing their community together, their
7:52
family together, and and have a outward
7:55
look at society and say that we are
7:58
healed from this. That we did the work
8:00
through this. That we won't let this
8:01
happen to our community and our society
8:03
again. So, I think that John Singleton
8:07
was trying to tell that cautionary tale,
8:09
that we do not let this happen again.
8:12
It's just not entertainment. And I'm one
8:14
of the products of that.
8:15
Yeah.
8:16
You know, so to be to be highlighted on
8:19
a um
8:20
you know, by a great institution
8:22
organization like the NAACP,
8:25
that's a that's a gift. And to be seen
8:27
as an artist is a gift.
8:29
Yeah, I'm glad that, man.
8:30
You could have easily went into radio,
8:31
too. You have a really nice voice.
8:33
Thank you. Thank you, man.
8:34
Yeah, you got him thinking of a segment
8:35
for him right now.
8:36
Yeah, right now. What What was this
8:38
process like for you? Were you asked um
8:40
were you offered the role? Did you have
8:41
to audition? And if so, what could you
8:44
tell us about what it
8:45
Yeah, I definitely auditioned. Um a lot
8:47
of people don't know, but there was
8:49
another iteration of Snowfall. So,
8:52
this was the second time it's coming
8:53
back. FX kind of retooled it and said,
8:56
"Listen, we need to Yeah, some things in
8:58
in order, but yeah, they had to actually
9:01
do it again." And I was a part of that
9:03
second rendition of of sorts. So,
9:07
yeah, I I auditioned what? About three
9:10
or four times.
9:12
Yeah, auditioned. I came in no wig at
9:15
this point, you know, I didn't know
9:16
where the character was going with it.
9:17
You know Jerry Curl?
9:18
Her name is Sheila. I didn't know we was
9:19
going to be in Sheila at the time.
9:21
Right.
9:21
Um but I came in and and I remember
9:25
auditioning with Angela Lewis, who is
9:28
who is my co-star on this show, and
9:32
from the moment that we met each other
9:33
in a chemistry read, it was like, "Yo,
9:36
she is the truth then you know, from
9:39
that moment we just were, you know, we
9:42
just kind of reminisced on it the other
9:44
day like, man, from the moment that we
9:47
saw each other in a room there was a
9:50
Auntie Louis and Uncle Jerome dynamic
9:52
that was you know, undeniable and we
9:56
just lit the room up and we left like
9:58
all right, hope I see you
10:00
hope
10:01
hope I see you on this and and to know
10:03
that she got the part she's an amazing
10:06
actress. Let's give her a big shoutout
10:08
to Angela
10:08
is.
10:09
Give her a big shoutout. I love that you
10:10
did that, too.
10:11
Yeah, man.
10:12
Angela Lewis McCreary
10:14
Angela Lewis McCreary. Tracy, you want
10:16
to jump in there?
10:17
Yeah, especially because you're touching
10:19
on that dynamic with Aunt Louie who is a
10:22
hell of a character, I must say.
10:25
You guys are so sexy as a two-some on
10:28
screen and I also say there's a level of
10:30
toxicity that I notice, especially as
10:33
the seasons have developed. And often
10:36
times in society we hear in marriages
10:38
happy wife, happy life, right? And I
10:41
think
10:42
actually that can be towards our
10:44
detriment sometimes.
10:46
Because in the case of Aunt Louie, I
10:49
feel like she pressures your character
10:52
to do things he doesn't necessarily want
10:54
or that he has outgrown. And so
10:58
Let's talk about it.
10:59
Let let let's do it.
11:01
Let's let's let's do it. Like I'm
11:03
wondering if you knew before going into
11:06
this series or if you learned it during
11:08
the series how to be more
11:11
discerning in your relationships, you
11:14
know, and what men can learn about
11:16
finding a compromise with their partner
11:19
versus happy wife, happy life.
11:23
Well, you're getting deep right there.
11:25
You know what?
11:26
Um
11:28
the one thing about one of the The that
11:30
actors don't talk about a lot is the
11:33
vulnerability
11:34
Mhm. of being in a series where you
11:36
don't know where the story is going to
11:38
go.
11:39
You don't know how your character is
11:41
actually going to flesh out. And or how
11:45
relationships will flesh out. So with
11:47
Aunt Louie and Uncle Jerome
11:50
in the beginning of that relationship,
11:51
we noticed
11:54
these two with Jerome sort of being the
11:57
lead. He was the one that made the
11:59
decision not to sell drugs along with
12:02
his nephew. Aunt Louie was the one to go
12:05
and do that. And it there was a dynamic
12:08
in the beginning where it was sort of
12:10
him leading. This is how we're going to
12:11
do it. This is the type of money we're
12:13
going to make. These are the type of
12:14
deals we're going to He Here Here are
12:16
the people that we're going to sell to.
12:18
Here are the people that we weren't.
12:20
And as the series evolved
12:23
the Aunt Louie character had more of a
12:25
blind ambition
12:28
for money, for success, for power that
12:32
Uncle Jerome didn't. He had more of a
12:33
cautionary like we good. We have enough.
12:37
Um to speak to that toward the larger
12:41
issues in the black community between
12:44
I I don't think it's fair because that
12:46
is fiction, but I can say that as a
12:50
a black man, as a husband that
12:53
it is really important to know who you
12:56
are marrying marrying. It's really
12:58
important to know that marriage is it
13:01
can be a business, it's a spiritual
13:04
connection, there's a emotional
13:05
connection, right? There's a of course a
13:07
physical psychological component to
13:10
that, and you need to be
13:13
be
13:14
be connected on all of those fronts. And
13:17
of course those things
13:19
ebb and flow. But it's really important
13:21
that you know the person and that you
13:23
keep the communication so that parts of
13:26
the personality that may pop out just
13:28
because we are evolving
13:30
don't become a contrast, don't become a
13:34
competition, don't become a thing where
13:38
you realize that the person that you
13:40
love is forcing you out of the person
13:43
that you are or
13:45
or that you need to become.
13:47
Hold on, man. Hold on. Let that breathe
13:49
for a second.
13:50
Let me snap my fingers.
13:52
Wow.
13:54
That's real though.
13:55
No, no, no, no. We were having a whole
13:57
conversation about this earlier.
13:58
Somewhat, not as eloquent as you put it.
14:01
We were having a whole conversation
14:03
about that.
14:04
I I find it
14:06
Yeah, yeah. But finish your thought. I
14:08
just want to
14:08
No, I'm I'm I'm I'm definitely finished.
14:10
But yeah, it that I think But I don't
14:12
want to compare the Aunt Louie and Uncle
14:15
Jerome because, you know, some of those
14:17
choices could have been made just for
14:19
the
14:21
the entertainment value.
14:22
Right.
14:23
You know what I admire about actors?
14:26
I've Heather's done some acting. Tracy,
14:28
I'm not sure if Tracy's done some
14:30
acting.
14:31
Heather's an actor. You know, I've I've
14:33
I've got some few cameos, I mean. You
14:35
know, I've done a few things in my day.
14:37
Thank you.
14:38
But Countess Vaughn
14:41
played on The Parkers. That was one of
14:42
the first cameos I ever did. Countess
14:45
Vaughn, right? And
14:48
I didn't know what I was doing. I
14:49
remember being on set. Nobody gave me
14:51
direction other than Mo'Nique who called
14:52
me in her dressing room and told me,
14:54
"Baby, this is what's going on. This is
14:56
you got to read this. This is your part.
14:57
Run out and do it."
14:58
Mo'Nique is my heart, right?
14:59
Mo'Nique's your heart? Oh, all right.
15:01
Okay.
15:01
Come on.
15:02
Mo'Nique was the only first person ever
15:04
put me on a nighttime talk show.
15:07
First person ever embrace me whenever I
15:09
got a cameo. I was just a kid having
15:11
fun. She embraced me and taught me how
15:13
to do it. She don't even I don't even
15:15
know if she realizes that part. I try to
15:17
remind anytime I see her.
15:18
I don't know if you know that. I grew up
15:20
in a world Apollo Theater when Mo'Nique
15:22
was hosting.
15:24
Yes, I read that about you kid. Yeah.
15:27
And Mo'Nique is the is one of the first
15:28
people that pulled me from my post while
15:32
I was ushering, took me upstairs,
15:34
introduced me to her agent.
15:36
Mhm.
15:37
Told me, "Young man, you are a star. I'm
15:40
speaking life into you now. I'm telling
15:41
you right now that you're going to make
15:43
it."
15:44
Yeah. Mo'Nique is the real deal.
15:46
She's the truth.
15:47
I'm so glad.
15:48
That's the spirit, brother.
15:50
Like we got to do that. We got to keep
15:52
doing things like this. And and you
15:54
know, sometimes we forget, you know,
15:56
things that happen and we don't have
15:57
enough time, but I'm so glad that Sway,
16:00
you know, you brought that story up
16:01
which allowed you to share that part
16:04
which I certainly didn't know, but I'm
16:06
we got to keep doing this for folks, our
16:08
people who
16:09
Yes.
16:09
give us these opportunities and chances
16:11
cuz they don't often have a time to do
16:14
it themselves. They don't It's not It's
16:15
not the same coming from them as it is
16:18
you sharing this and Sway sharing it.
16:19
Yeah.
16:20
to I was able to It's so funny that we
16:22
reconnected through a Clubhouse room and
16:25
I told Mo'Nique at the time like, "Oh,
16:27
Mo'Nique, you know, I'm doing my thing
16:29
in my career. Is there anything I will
16:31
sweep the floor? I will hold the boom
16:34
wherever you at."
16:36
And Mo'Nique was like, "Just pay it
16:38
forward, baby."
16:39
Amen.
16:39
Just pay it forward, baby.
16:40
That's what she's done.
16:42
There's plenty of Mo'Nique stories like
16:43
this, right? But also I was That's what
16:45
I was leading to. So, you picked it up
16:47
like a baton in a 400 meter relay.
16:50
Zoom, zoom.
16:52
Uh you have a company called Dark Energy
16:55
Pictures or
16:56
Dark Energy Pictures, yeah.
16:57
Uh I'm a big
16:59
fan of the word energy, you know, and
17:01
what it means. Everybody interprets it
17:03
differently, you know. What does it mean
17:05
to you? Why did you name your company
17:07
Dark Energy?
17:07
I called it Dark Energy because it it it
17:10
represents true potential in the
17:11
universe, right? That things are birthed
17:14
out of this dark matter, dark energy.
17:16
From the darkness come the light.
17:17
That's right. So, we all that untapped
17:20
potential.
17:21
Uh-huh.
17:22
Um so, I wanted my company to represent
17:24
that untapped dark energy, that that
17:27
that sticky stuff.
17:29
Uh-huh.
17:29
That can that connects, you know, that
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connects and and makes worlds and and
17:34
all possibility coming out of that.
17:37
So, so what happens now? Like, is this
17:39
the final season of um This is the final
17:41
season of Snowfall.
17:43
So, what So, what what are you diverting
17:45
energy to now? Is it going to be with
17:46
Dark Energy Pictures or what what's that
17:48
what's
17:49
Yeah, I'm already I actually have a film
17:51
that's coming out this year. It's called
17:53
To Live Die and Live. It just premiered
17:55
at the Sundance Film Festival.
17:56
Come on, man.
17:58
Congratulations. Very big deal.
18:00
So, yeah, I I'll definitely be producing
18:03
a lot and
18:04
Wakanda?
18:06
I need to be in Wakanda?
18:07
Black Panther. Yeah.
18:09
Yeah, yeah, that's my brother Chad
18:11
Boseman. Big shout out to Howard
18:12
University, too.
18:13
Come on, Ryan.
18:14
Howard guy, huh?
18:16
It's you?
18:17
What was it
18:18
working like What was it like working
18:20
with Forest Whitaker?
18:22
You know what? I didn't get to work with
18:23
Forest Whitaker in that capacity on that
18:26
particular film.
18:27
What's interesting is that Forest
18:29
Whitaker did the voiceover for a film
18:32
that I did back in 2015 called Dope.
18:35
Oh, they called it Dope.
18:37
Come on, man.
18:39
You know we know that.
18:40
On Dope in Dope, he What was cool is I
18:43
got to hear all of his narration cuz I
18:45
did the first part. So, it was almost
18:47
like working in tandem with him. But, I
18:49
I haven't shared on-screen time with
18:52
with Forest yet.
18:53
Okay. Okay.
18:54
Call me up, Godfather.
18:56
You know that's on the bucket list.
18:58
New York guy,
18:59
wait hold up Tracy cuz he called me B.
19:02
He said, "I would never do that, B."
19:05
He took us back to the 90s, right?
19:08
That's me, though.
19:09
What borough is that, though?
19:10
That's That's Harlem. on.
19:11
That's Harlem?
19:12
Come on, B.
19:13
Okay.
19:15
What would would you say what what
19:17
borough for you uh through hip-hop has
19:19
been most influential?
19:22
Cuz you know you got the Run DMC, the
19:23
Queens, Brooklyn.
19:25
You're doing a lot here. Hey, man. Come
19:27
on. Yo, what up, B?
19:29
Is Harlem coming out?
19:31
here?
19:31
All right.
19:33
If I had to choose a borough, if I had
19:36
to choose a borough, I'd have to choose
19:37
the Bronx. The Boogie Down Bronx, if I
19:41
had to choose a borough.
19:43
Yeah. Just because of the legacy, the
19:44
history?
19:45
The legacy and still Yeah, that's it.
19:47
I'mma leave it there cuz now you Yeah.
19:49
I'mma leave it there for now.
19:50
that lyric? Peter Gunz? Who said that if
19:52
I had to choose a borough?
19:53
Well, no. It was if I had to choose a
19:55
coast, I had to choose the East.
19:56
The East. Oh, Big. Okay. All right.
19:58
Cool.
19:58
All right. I just remixed you like that.
20:00
Okay. I like how you did that. Hey, man.
20:02
Joseph is here, man. Big round of
20:04
applause. Tracy, you got anything else
20:05
you want to ask him?
20:05
Yes. I just want to get this off because
20:07
this is the final season. I think about
20:11
There's so many chances in a show like
20:13
Snowfall that a character can be killed
20:15
off, right? And in a sense, it's it's
20:19
very rare for a show to have six seasons
20:22
and for your character to be able to
20:25
endure all six seasons. Does it ever
20:28
feel after season 1 kind of like you're
20:31
playing Russian roulette and you're
20:32
like, "Okay, is it going to end here?"
20:34
Or season 2 because they really you're
20:36
just living within uncertainty as an
20:38
actor. So, were you ever like planning
20:42
either in season 2 or season 3, all
20:43
right, what's going to be my next move
20:44
if they don't write me back in?
20:47
No. It was almost the opposite. For me,
20:51
I realized how volatile the life of of
20:53
being a crack dealer was. So, for me it
20:55
was like run toward the death. Don't run
20:58
you know, don't run from it. So, every
21:01
year I would be like
21:03
I would talk to the you know, the
21:04
writers and be like, "Look,
21:06
kill me.
21:07
But let's go out with a bang. Let's do
21:09
something real." And if they didn't kill
21:12
me, I'm going through these scenes as if
21:14
I would die, you know? You had to keep
21:16
the stakes there because that's the
21:17
stakes that a person
21:19
living and not knowing, you know, around
21:23
which corner could be death
21:25
um with the crazy situations that we're
21:27
in. Um and and it also now coming from
21:30
family as well. So, yeah, that was my
21:33
that was my own personal thing like run
21:35
toward whatever, you know, if if they if
21:38
they over there, go there.
21:40
Go do whatever do whatever I can to make
21:44
sure I'd rather run through the wall and
21:46
know that that's no longer an obstacle.
21:48
So, I did that as far as with the
21:50
character and that was kind of aiming as
21:53
well as working on the production that I
21:55
I stayed volatile. I stayed hungry and
21:59
give me more or kill me.
22:01
That's crazy.
22:02
Say man, Joseph, yeah, man, this guy is
22:03
man, this dude is a
22:05
great interview right here.
22:06
Yeah, buddy.
22:08
You work with Johnny Depp, too, right?
22:09
Yeah, yeah.
22:10
Yeah, yeah, talk about man, Johnny, man,
22:12
that dude is legendary.
22:14
I his acting style is truly unique to
22:17
him. Some folks have signature, you
22:19
know,
22:20
vibrations they bring to characters.
22:22
Right. Ooh, I like how I said that.
22:26
I just told you it don't sound right
22:27
when people give their own self props
22:29
and then he going to go do this
22:31
anyway. I mean, talk to your man, B.
22:34
Self props.
22:35
I like how I said that. Yeah, yeah,
22:36
yeah, yeah, I had to give myself props
22:38
on it.
22:39
It's your own self
22:40
you said it.
22:40
I feel like Johnny is my maybe one of
22:43
the most misunderstood, misinterpreted
22:45
people. I don't think none of us truly
22:46
have met him, you know? I think we meet
22:48
this persona and he has this public
22:50
perception they have. What is your
22:52
experience with him?
22:54
Yeah, he was smooth. I mean, I know what
22:56
you mean by like a a persona, but I
22:59
don't know. I I him at face value and to
23:02
me he was a humble, gracious bro. You
23:05
know, he was very giving in in our
23:07
scenes that we worked together and
23:09
I feel like
23:11
it's just dope to meet people
23:14
that aren't
23:17
Mhm.
23:17
People that
23:18
Word.
23:19
It's just
23:20
It's It's really cool to meet people
23:22
that seem that they are unaffected,
23:25
unbothered by their talent and they just
23:28
know that that's a gift in which, you
23:29
know, they connect to the world but
23:31
they're not using it as a weapon,
23:34
weaponizing it to create space
23:37
Mhm.
23:37
around them, you know, that that's not
23:39
really what they aura about and to me he
23:42
feels like that. He feels like
23:45
get the, you know, get all the fluff
23:47
away and this is who I am but I do what
23:50
I do very well and I'm really focused on
23:52
that. So, you know, you might get burnt
23:54
with the laser if you in the path of
23:56
that but other than that
23:58
Yeah.
23:59
Let's work. Let's Let's, you know, let's
24:01
co-create. Let's collaborate.
24:03
I love it, man. Hey, man, Joseph, man,
24:04
give this guy a big round of applause
24:06
for all
24:07
Go ahead and give him that award in
24:09
NAACP.
24:10
Go and get that. Go ahead and give him
24:12
that. That's in the future for him. I
24:14
see that. Hey, man, thanks for coming
24:16
by, brother.
24:16
Let's not forget the 22nd of February.
24:19
Chocolate Droop.
24:20
Wednesday.
24:21
Snow falls back.
24:21
Snow falls back, man. All right,
24:24
brother. Great to have you on, man.
24:25
Always, man.
24:26
All right, absolutely, man. We coming
24:27
right back at Sway in the Morning Shade
24:30
45.
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