Boots Riley Talks About His New Series ‘I’m A Virgo’: A Must-Watch Show | SWAY’S UNIVERSE
Jul 23, 2023
Boots Riley, the mastermind behind the movie Sorry to Bother You, has been making waves with his new TV series, ‘I’m A Virgo’. This new series that is now streaming on Amazon Prime Video follows a 13-foot-tall, 19-year-old Black man named Cootie, who has been raised by his Aunt Lafrancine and Uncle Martisse in Oakland, California and is shielded from the outside world until being accidentally discovered by a group of teenage political activists. Recently, Boots Riley was invited as a guest on Sway In The Morning to discuss his new series. In this blog post, we will be diving deep into the conversation, sharing details about the series and why it is a must-watch show.
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[Applause]
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percent the first time he'd been on the
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show
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come on man
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my brother is here I say that I talk
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about him often unbeknownst to him
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because he doesn't strike me I like to
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sit and listens through
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I just got serious you got serious
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action I just got it okay wow
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it's the free trial still okay for three
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months yeah Bruce Riley is listening to
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SiriusXM for three months 90 days 90
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days
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but it's a it's an honor uh to have him
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here for so many different reasons uh
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just when you come I always got a
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reminisce I know folks don't always like
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to do that but I just remember watching
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this man walk around Oakland neighbor
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rocking in the neighborhood and just
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seemed like even at that time he was a
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thinking man you know even as younger
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men you know well I wasn't walking
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because I was thinking I was walking
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because I didn't have a car yeah that's
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true too Bruce Riley was broke but he
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wore he wore it well
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yeah yeah you wore it well man
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um and so just to watch him
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become a a film Creator producer a film
1:14
writer we were talking about people who
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transitioned and I used to throw parties
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too and we had y'all come perform you
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remember
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two at the underground cafe Swain King
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Tech yeah that's right
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let's go into your memory yo that's
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crazy that's right yeah yeah yeah
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what the [ __ ] and that was uh yeah that
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was that was man then I think uh I I
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rushed you with my first record behind
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at The Tribe Called Quest concert at San
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Francisco State yeah and you know that's
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that's another thing I remember because
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I think it was like Tribe Called Quest
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and uh Public Enemy right and we used to
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we went to San Francisco State and we
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used to volunteer to be Chuck D's
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security
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I mean I'm little now I was littler then
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and
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um we would pick him up from the airport
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he'd be like
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okay y'all would be like we're your
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security and we just did it so we could
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argue with him yeah we wanted to we
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wanted to debate uh-huh you know we went
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to debate with them we want you know and
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so yeah and then we get to get into the
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uh you know he was speaking and then
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sometimes do some songs or whatever and
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um yeah and and that was like I was
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probably you know 18. yeah at that time
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and then later on when we had the record
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deal and we were out touring I ran into
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him again
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and you know my hair was it because back
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then I had the high top fade and um my
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hair was very different and all that and
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I and I came I was like you won't
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remember me he said San Francisco State
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1989. yeah blah blah blah you know he
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knew exactly yo he has that memory he's
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one of those people to call the year the
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date the whole night yeah that's like
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you swear actually I ain't that boost
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just reminded me of something I forgot
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you know ain't that good you know but um
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wow so that's how the relationship
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started with Chuck D in Public Enemy so
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y'all eventually went on tour and
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everything right no I never went on tour
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with Chuck but he was always uh there
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for us there was a time when we had uh
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we had a video for a song called taking
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these and in it uh we got people rushing
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up into what's supposed to be
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rockefeller's Mansion we got people uh
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throwing the mayor's body in the bay and
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all that and you you people listening
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might not remember but there was the Box
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yeah the Box you know remember the box
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and we were the first we were the first
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video that they banned
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okay and so what yeah wow they banned it
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and they were like we don't even you
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know we were like trying to make
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concessions we'll take those parts out
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they were like no no no we think it'll
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cause unrest or whatever and then I was
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like okay we'll we'll cause Prince had
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had the video with the lyrics and I was
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like we'll do that we'll just do a black
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screen and the lyrics they were like no
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we don't even want the lyrics on there
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so I went to a lot of people
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and said hey uh you know a lot of other
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artists that I knew can you you know
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make a statement we want to make a
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statement that this is wrong and you
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know and because other stations were
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following suit because they because they
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said they said the president yeah and
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and everybody was scared everybody was
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like I feel for you but we we're about
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to release a video and I can't get on
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the wrong side of that
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Chuck was like didn't let me finish the
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sentence when I called him he said
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here's my statement take it down you got
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a pencil
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that's what it's about how many times
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were you banned from things because of
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your music or your album covers you know
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actually
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only a couple times in in a fit
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officially but you know a lot of times
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there are things where people are like
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in positions of gatekeeping where
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they're like you know oh if I do this
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then I'll be in trouble those sorts of
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things so it never you know trickles
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down to me till years later when they
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tell me about it when they tell you
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about it right yeah yeah Bruce Riley is
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here from the cool we got a shout out
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Pam come on man that'll be a chance
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matter of fact and when when
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um
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so pet so uh as listeners might not know
5:48
Pam the funks just died in 2017 but
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throughout our whole career everybody
5:55
was like when they see her you know you
5:57
look like Heather B you know you look
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like Heather B and she she does and does
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it because I know know her but so when I
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did walk in I was like
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oh you know I got the same thing yeah so
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we yeah that's a her spirit to me we
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always I don't even know how I don't
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remember when we all met but they were
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like sisters I know it's weird I can't
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and it felt like I knew her like from
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some time I don't know that energy if
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you believe in that that kind of
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spiritual energy and everything I
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somehow it's just my spiritual sister
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yeah definitely yeah what what are your
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beliefs I I never knew that like
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spirituality dude did you practice
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anything religion uh I say this so my
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father when he was uh when my my
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grandmother was a Pentecostal preacher
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okay
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on my father's side when he was 12 uh he
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went into town they were living in
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Durham North Carolina he went into town
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to run an errand and ran into the NAACP
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and got hyped and showed up in church
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stood up because my grandmother wasn't
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the pastor she was just one of the
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preachers stood up told the other Pastor
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hey we need to get involved in the Civil
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Rights Movement this is what's happening
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in the world our church needs to be
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involved in that and the Pastor said how
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dare you come in here blaspheming and
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saying that we should get involved in
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worldly events so what people don't know
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is that often
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um the black church in general gets
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credit for being involved in the Civil
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Rights Movement but the reason they had
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to have the uh Southern Christian
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leadership conference was to try to get
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the black church involved in the Civil
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Rights Movement but by and large the
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black church was not involved in the
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Civil in the Civil Rights Movement for
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the most part so anyway the the Pastor
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said to him you know how dare you come
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in here blaspheming blah blah blah and
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in church my father at 12 years old said
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well if Jesus don't want to be part of
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my freedom I don't want no part of Jesus
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and so the pastor uh kicked
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the whole family out of church but so my
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father had 11 brothers and sisters his
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mother had same thing 11 or 12 brothers
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and sisters father so basically half the
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church was gone so
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wow
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so so they quickly let everybody back in
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and my father was like I don't want to
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go back so I was not raised religious at
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all okay you know and um but what I was
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raised with was that you are supposed to
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do right yeah
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by by people that these the the values
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that often
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um various religions put forward are
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ones that came to me in terms of what
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are you going to do here on this earth
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right that that uh you can't just be
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good inside yourself and think pure
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thoughts and then everything is cool
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because of the afterlife you gotta
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change the way the world is right now
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and so that's what I was brought up with
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man I love it boots Riley and your music
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has
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reflected that uh from kill my landlord
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on until now you know and so I commend
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you on that
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um Tracy Barlow sent the picture of
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Boots and I you see that that picture
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was crazy right yeah yeah who's Tracy
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Tracy Barlow is uh she's a dancer and a
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photographer from the Bay Area okay she
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pop locker and uh oh and um she had a
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picture of I said I didn't I did not
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remember from being at a record store I
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remembered it back when sway had dreads
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boost they didn't know what I was doing
9:53
40 came 10 years later
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you know what 40K 15 years later yeah
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yeah yeah so yeah no though that that's
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that was definitely you know we've been
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going back a long time since Oakland
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High but it it's it's really you know
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going till now and and everything that
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I'm doing
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um though speaking of those values
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that's that's basically the thing that
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guides me and got me involved in more
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radical uh organizations organizations
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that said yes we want to change the
10:29
world and this is exactly what we think
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needs to be changed about the world that
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we need to have a world in which the
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people democratically control the wealth
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that we create with our labor right and
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so uh so yeah so so I put that into all
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of my work I'm a communist and
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um what and and that means exactly that
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right there and right now
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we're in this period in which a lot of
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people are deciding that they want to
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figure out how to change the world
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around them right right now
11:06
um in the United States for over the
11:09
last three years has been roughly 3 000
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strikes in the United States
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if you go on this thing payday
11:16
report.com they've tracked all the
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strikes since March 2020 and it's been
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roughly 3 000 strikes and we're in the
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meaning that we're in the biggest strike
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wave the U.S has seen since the 1970s
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and and some of these strikes are you
11:35
know just you know for everything from
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the Waffle House to fast food to uh 30
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000 Carpenters striking on the east
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coast to right now uh 160
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000 actors striking and 11 000 Riders
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striking with with this thing and and
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some of these things are just about
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wages and people getting their fair
12:02
share of the wealth that's going on but
12:05
some of them are about changing bigger
12:07
things in Oakland California just uh a
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month ago uh the teachers went on strike
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they had a definitely a wage demand and
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they won that and they stayed out on
12:18
strike and people were like why are
12:20
y'all still on strike it's because they
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were going for these common good
12:23
proposals yeah so Oakland has a lot of
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homeless people so there's also a lot of
12:29
homeless kids coming to school
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and so the teachers one of their strike
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demands was they need showers they need
12:38
to figure out a way to get shelter for
12:41
these kids this is something that
12:43
teachers are doing and demanding us and
12:45
they they're doing it with their strike
12:47
they also won these uh common good
12:49
proposals that said parents and teachers
12:51
get to decide what's done with the
12:53
budget
12:54
right so these are things where people
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aren't just saying uh we we need more
12:59
piece of the pie which they do but they
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want to shape the world around them and
13:05
and the same thing with the uh with
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what's going on with uh the SAG and wga
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strike the writers and actors
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um you know often we get we get
13:15
technology rolled out to us like Hey
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we're gonna have this technology where
13:19
we listen to you in your car and we're
13:21
uh and and and we can see you we know we
13:25
monitor your every move and um you're
13:28
not gonna like it mm-hmm
13:30
you're gonna make art about it you're
13:32
gonna talk about it and all that but
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we're still doing it yeah so it's all
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good and that's how technology has been
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rolled out to us in this case
13:43
people are the the people involved in it
13:46
the writers and the actors are saying oh
13:49
[ __ ] that we're gonna shut it all the
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way down
13:53
and then you're gonna have to decide
13:55
whether to make less profit
13:58
or no profit at all right so we're not
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going to let you do that we're we want
14:04
to say in what's happening with with
14:07
this technology and
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um and so in that way people are taking
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it's you know it's it's not just about
14:14
wages people are taking control of what
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the future looks like yeah yeah you know
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yeah that's true I haven't seen it from
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that bigger broader view like and right
14:24
now is the time when it has to be done
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yeah because there's no dollar value yet
14:29
on AI right I I didn't make that clear
14:33
what they're fighting what the
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technology they're fighting over around
14:37
is AI yeah AI The Proposal that
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Hollywood wants that the studios want to
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have is so let's say you're a background
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actor you come in for one day get paid
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for a day get scanned they can use you
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for the next 50 hundred indefinitely
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years and put you as put your image all
14:58
in in movies that's how they want to do
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it without paying you nothing without
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paying you you got paid that one time
15:04
you got your day ready yeah one day
15:05
that's just your union scale and and and
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you know they're people that's how they
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pay the bills they they got tricked into
15:12
moving to La you know they can't pay
15:16
rent and they gotta do these background
15:18
this background work in order to pay
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it's not all just actors and writers who
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are getting paid a lot the these strikes
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are some of it is for the folks on the
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bottom row yeah right so
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um and in this case even lead actors
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they want to make it so that you know
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they scan you you've been in one movie
15:40
they own the movie so therefore they can
15:42
use that and put you in 30 other movies
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yeah whatever have you doing things you
15:48
don't want to do have you you know uh
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whatever I mean as a I put it like this
15:53
that's one there's one thing on the the
15:56
worker side of it that I'm talking about
15:58
but as a human being I don't want to be
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in a world where culture is created that
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way because all AI can do is copy what's
16:08
already been done
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right it can't it can only look at other
16:13
things that have been done and do that
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and and mash it up yeah you know it
16:18
can't be Innovative it can't create a
16:22
new thing which is that that feeling you
16:25
get like when you listen to some some
16:27
somebody come raw you like oh I did and
16:30
it's not always something brand new that
16:32
you never heard it's like looking at it
16:34
from a different angle that you hadn't
16:36
thought about that before it's like a
16:38
good joke it's like you know
16:41
um just that that human experience that
16:44
creates Innovation and and they want to
16:46
make culture so where it's cheaper for
16:49
them
16:49
but worse for the people making it and
16:52
worse for the people consuming the
16:54
culture yeah you know and and think
16:56
about Generations growing up
16:59
in something like that we grow up in
17:02
this machine made culture you know what
17:05
and and and they have more direct
17:07
controls on exactly what
17:09
it says oh this has this Nuance that
17:12
makes you feel this way yeah let's let's
17:14
take that out type that in take that out
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you know that they can
17:22
right and that sound like some tin foil
17:25
hat thing but they're actually saying
17:27
yeah that's what they want to do that's
17:29
what they want to do that's why the
17:31
legislation is going to be so important
17:33
around AI yeah because we won't know
17:35
what the laws are to create those
17:37
parameters I also wonder then if this
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incentivizes more um
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thespians and film directors to own
17:47
their Studios to own their like
17:49
production companies you know thinking
17:51
about a Tyler Perry a Reese Witherspoon
17:53
you know who had her production company
17:55
because of the her experience as a woman
17:57
within the industry maybe there's a
17:58
creative opportunity for us as owners
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well let's say this by the time you get
18:03
to be a Tyler Perry or a Reese
18:05
Witherspoon
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um you've created
18:09
so many works that had investors
18:13
investing tens and hundreds of millions
18:15
of dollars yeah into your thing and in
18:20
the same way that even uh Jeff Bezos
18:22
with Amazon
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he he
18:26
he controls Amazon but there's a whole
18:30
bunch of other people yeah that own it
18:31
there's Vanguard fund there's black rock
18:33
fund there's all that's just the way it
18:35
all works if you're dealing with a lot
18:37
of money yeah then you got a lot of
18:39
owners you know so you know uh I I don't
18:44
know the setup with Tyler Perry exactly
18:46
but you know you you're dealing with all
18:48
that that that's that's not going to be
18:51
an answer for you know the millions of
18:55
artists that there are out there the
18:57
millions of actors the the the the best
19:01
way to do things because even then look
19:04
you remember
19:05
um
19:06
like in the 90s there was a lot of black
19:08
movies where the happy ending is
19:10
everybody moved to Atlanta remember that
19:13
one
19:15
like oh we moved to Atlanta you know
19:20
because that was the idea the the idea
19:22
that was selling to us is that all we
19:25
got to do is that capitalism isn't the
19:28
problem that all we need is black
19:30
capitalism we need uh black business
19:33
owners black police black Mayors and
19:37
it'll all be good and that's what
19:38
Atlanta stood and stands for right but
19:42
as we can see you could go to Atlanta
19:44
and you got some people with big houses
19:46
and you got a lot of people struggling
19:49
yeah and having to hurt each other in
19:52
order to just survive right
19:55
right having a hustle so
19:59
um that what we need to do is have us
20:02
have a situation in which
20:06
their people really own those things so
20:09
can you have
20:11
um can you have a whole not just even
20:14
one studio right that is collectively
20:16
owned that would be a step but can you
20:18
have a whole economy that's collectively
20:20
owned and you can yeah
20:23
you can you can it's they're not going
20:26
to give it to you okay right it's gonna
20:28
take organizing it's going to take and
20:31
and these strikes these strike waves are
20:35
a first step in that where people are
20:37
realizing okay we know that that
20:42
power that wealth makes power we know
20:46
that matter of fact that's what we're
20:47
told when we when we see somebody with a
20:49
lot of money or you know even a rapper
20:52
that makes a lot of money we kind of
20:54
cheer for them because we feel like
20:55
that's us getting power right right
20:58
and but in reality the rest of us don't
21:01
have that power and they don't even have
21:04
as much power as we think they do
21:07
and and what's happening is people are
21:10
realizing okay if wealth makes power
21:11
what creates the wealth we create the
21:14
wealth we're the ones you know working
21:16
on the job you know uh that's what you
21:20
know that's what creates that wealth so
21:22
all we got to do is withhold our labor
21:24
and be like
21:26
you know collectively
21:29
yes we're shutting things down this is
21:31
the setup we want now that's happening
21:34
in little ways all over the place and as
21:37
it as it gets bigger it's going to get
21:39
more coordinated yeah and where we can
21:41
shut whole Industries down
21:43
right and demand a different setup and
21:47
at some point that's going to keep
21:48
growing and there will be you know major
21:51
conflicts okay like at some point people
21:53
will just be like at some point y'all
21:55
will just walk in back in serious and
21:58
and tell everybody like no we own this
22:01
place
22:02
you know like this is ours right and um
22:06
but they're gonna you know there's gonna
22:10
be a fight yeah it's gonna be a fight
22:15
[Music]
22:18
okay so Boo's trying to get this man a
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round of applause man so I I think the
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public is so interested in the way you
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just broke this down against so much in
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sight um what do you see in a
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foreseeable future
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um with the strike and how far are you
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willing to go well let's let's be clear
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right now
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um with the writer strike and the actor
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strike what's come out from multiple
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Anonymous sources from reputable news
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agencies is that the studios
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um and and the streamers they have
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Diversified interests right they they
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own other things they have other
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industries that they're working in
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they're worried that this strike is
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encouraging people
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to strike in other Industries and in
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other parts of the world okay and it is
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right what are some of those Industries
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um you know manufacturing uh you know of
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Technology other things I mean you even
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got you look right now
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um
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160 000 actors 11 000 writers uh it's
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about to be 390
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000 UPS workers that have 97 of them
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voted to go on strike
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um Ford a lot of stuff happening about
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that you got all uh Amazon drivers in
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California have gone on strike
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so you got all these things happening
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the studios
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are trying to they said look we want to
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wait till the writers are being evicted
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from their homes then we're going to
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come to them and negotiate wow so
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they're they're trying to what that's
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called is trying to break a union
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because they want to make it to where
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it happens for a long time and then
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there's not that many gains and so but
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the they're under arrest what they've
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underestimated is that people aren't
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just doing this uh people peop people
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are ready in fact they're ready to keep
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going they're ready to shut it all the
24:29
way down and so they're gonna they're
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gonna try that but it's still not going
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to work and they're going to have to
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come back with with with their
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concessions that are gonna and you know
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and that that that and and so it's it's
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big if they're that worried about the
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writers and the actors
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um that's because they know that it's a
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new time in the world where where people
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are you know are figuring out that it's
24:57
not just going out on the streets look
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it used to be you know
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um even artists would be like all we got
25:03
to do is let our voice be heard we got
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to tell the truth I'm speaking the truth
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with my heart yeah didn't do a damn
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thing right
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then people were like well what if we
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could get millions of people out on the
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street during the Iraq War we had
25:16
Millions upon millions of people all
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over the world out in the street saying
25:21
we don't want this war didn't do a damn
25:23
thing right because Freedom it's not
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just about what you can speak it's about
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the power what you have the power of and
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under capitalism
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we have the power by withholding our
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labor right and that's what's what's
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happening right now and people are
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seeing that
25:43
all over the country
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and and and
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they're scared yeah so that's why they
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want to try to make an example out of
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this strike and it's not going to work
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boots Riley man get this man a big round
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of applause man thank you thank you [ __ ]
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I went to high school with them bars
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well why do I say it
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he says it away better than me who's
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been booed since then
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yeah yeah it's amazing the way you broke
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that down man come back anytime bro
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thank you I will I'll be back I'll be
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back tomorrow and the next day anytime
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bro you
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you perform at the underground
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it might not have been a check
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back then it was different you did it
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for the love everybody
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thank you brother yeah I can't express
26:47
enough
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[Music]
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people don't believe me tell them I know
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you so I gotta come on here just so they
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believe
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they don't believe me when I tell them
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we grew up together y'all you know some
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of the common folks we have in common
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and I was telling them
27:05
what they have in common can't speak on
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you know because certain situations
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without speaking to people you know and
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oh they had a whole they had a beautiful
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time listening to my stories because
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they see you a certain a certain way and
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I was like yeah man this guy is amazing
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they was like wow okay boots Riley man
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thank you brother thank you thank you
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very much thank you absolutely
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