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The WBC champion displays his sharp, witty, and fun loving personality as he highlights his recent fights and the business of boxing. Tune in to episode 16 to hear more about the Motor’s city love for training young fighters, D-Town Hip Hop, and his climb to success.
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BRIDGEBIZNESS: Tony “SuperBad” Harrison
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yo man we got him right here man former
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super welterweight
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champion of the world the one and only
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the super bad
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you know him give it up for tony
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harrison welcome to bridge business baby
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come on man
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please come on bridget hey man the
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bridges is the way to build anything you
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know man it can make anything you
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connect anything with bridges
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that's what it's all about man yeah for
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sure
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you already get it man hey man first and
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foremost i want to welcome you to the
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show i'm a big fan of yours
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uh when you capture the belt you know
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back in in 2018
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i was like wow i really like this guy's
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style i saw a couple your early fights
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early on and see how it took you 10
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years man from your first fight
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you know back in 2011 that first tko you
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got
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to really get the belt when you got that
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belt that day man what was that like
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what was that like for you
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man to be honest man just like the the
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it made
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it made it made the journey made the the
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the five o'clock runs
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made the the sacrifice of
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you know the old school days of training
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with no sex and
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no eating after a certain time uh uh
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you know cutting the weight it made all
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that stuff man made all the [ __ ] man
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just
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worth it you know it was worth it was
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worth the journey you know the journey
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was worth it when i when i finally
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captured
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um the bell not only not only just
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captain the world title just captured
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the belt that meant so much to everybody
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like you know us and the
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african-american community you know
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floyd made the green belt seemed like it
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was [ __ ]
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the only thing that mattered it was more
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than the president you know what i'm
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saying so
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you know so this just for me just uh
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to finally capture the belt that meant
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the most to to to my culture i think
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um it was just it was it was it was
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surreal but now you know i mean not only
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for me it was just
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my father put in so much sacrifice to
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deal with me so many times in
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and to be honest about a boxing trainer
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gets
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less than minimum wage it's that's
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that's a less than minimum wage kind of
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job because he spent so much time
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and it's so hands-on and you never know
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when it's gonna tell how long it's gonna
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take you to get to that belt like some
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some people say 20 years some people
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take
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15 30 years you know what i mean but um
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for my father it was it was really just
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the the kind of moment to have for him
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because he dedicated his life yeah to
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training me
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to get to that one point you know what
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i'm saying so i was just i was happy to
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do a family
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yo i can only imagine man your father
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you know you getting the belt you all of
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that paid off what y'all do that night
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how did y'all celebrate man to be honest
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i swear to god
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i probably called every girl i had on my
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phone
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trying to see like i was like i was
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living so high i probably caught every
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girl on my phone
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and tried to get them all in one room
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like that's the kind of like that's kind
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of vibe
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i know i know tonight is going to be my
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night out i won the belt
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i can get all these girls in one room
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and i know i can get them to mingle you
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know
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that we can all mingle together we have
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a good time you know man
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but that you know it didn't work like
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that but you know i i went back to the
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crib man went to
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winter went to my favorite spot in
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detroit man views bar and grill
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and we party man we party like
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we just won a presidential election man
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anyway someone like it was like
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not only one day of election time it was
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like 40 days but we probably
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consistently like
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40 days until my body just got tired and
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i need duress to be honest but
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i was going to hire man i did everything
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i did the parades
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um i went on the news i just i just i
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wanted to take it really around
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every every kid
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that was coming up in detroit that
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wanted to be a fighter wanted to be
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something of value to themself
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um you know sometimes i thought it take
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for
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for that next person to see this guy
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this guy from the same city as me he
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walked the same streets as me
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and he came off successful so i just did
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i did that
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i did i mean i went everywhere and i
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went every i literally went everywhere
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for about 40 days straight
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um heyton what what makes a detroit
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boxer
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different from other places other cities
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like crunk gym and all that what
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what makes a trump a crunk gym fighter
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and uh detroit fighter different from
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other cities
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i mean you know what to be honest i
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think um
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i think i think it's kind of in our
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water almost like you know what i mean
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like
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it's like it's like when you walk into a
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gym and this
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there's no there's no cap um you walk
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into like a gym like a mayweather gym
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like people pick and choose people you
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know they're like i don't wanna inspire
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this guy today
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i don't really want to do this today i
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don't know my guy not spawning today
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like you go to a lot of gyms that's like
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that like
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you know uh this guy went to work and
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like nah that's tony harris and i
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already went on
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but you walk into crunk i swear to god
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you got guys lined up
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that went direct you know you know
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they're like that's that's what makes us
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different like
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our guys are lined up for the wreck i
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like you the best if they give you
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norman cinco walking in if you anthony
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joshua walking in and i don't care if
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you could beat us or not
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but we want the wreck soon as you walk
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through the door we want the wreck soon
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as you walk through the door
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you're gonna make it be known that you
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fought a detroit fighter because this
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[ __ ] ain't gonna be easy
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and you're gonna get your grits out of
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this [ __ ] whether you win their mother
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gonna lose that mug like you're gonna
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get your grits out
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of working in detroit like and that's
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what builds the mentality of a
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of a strong fighter and a strong man i
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think that could i not think i could
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walk this
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i could walk any street in the in the
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country just because i'm from detroit
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and
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that's kind of mentality we got i feel
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the same way being from oakland
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you know what i mean for sure you know
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what i mean because it's the same thing
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man detroit
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uh queens bridge from queens bridge
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similar thing man
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hey so how does super bad boxing gym
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compare to crump did you did you kind of
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model it after that that whole mentality
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uh to be honest i was only ian crump for
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like three years you know they took
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emmanuel
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manuel found me like i was i was more of
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a straggler kind of guy like we've been
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we never had a home really you know
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jimmy and my father we bounced around
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from general gym from east side to west
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side
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and we just towed [ __ ] down and
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it was uh the golden gloves which is one
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of the biggest tournaments in the
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country
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um emmanuel was there because literally
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the whole crunk team the whole every
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weight class had a guy from crunk in it
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you know they're like
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130 132 145 one like everybody has
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somebody from that represented
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by crump you know what i'm saying like
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and me being a straggler there's only
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that's only one
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uh hear me hang fighter in there because
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it's you know we have many of them but
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you know it's only me and i just so i
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happened that i had to fight two guys
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from crunk
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you know what i'm saying and manny was
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sitting there like the whole tournament
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so man you know man was it
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uh he had a man he had a golden eye man
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he had to go to alpha guys that
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really had the demeanor the swagger the
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the
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the makings of of becoming a champ
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before you even knew before you knew it
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he was fighting he'd be like you're
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gonna be you don't want you know what i
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mean so i i end up fighting
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um a guy named leon white which is like
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he was like
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top five in the country at the time and
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i wrote when i said i ruffled his
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feathers
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i ruffled his feathers i you know i i
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and i actually thought i won the fight
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but i ended up losing it
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and i'm sticking at the middle like [ __ ]
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y'all i'm talking to the referees and
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the judges
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like because i'm healed cause i put my
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all into it man so so like i'm the
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ultimate competitor so
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i really understand how a guy like
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russell russell westbrook begins to be
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getting some americans he's arguing
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competitors so you know he put his all
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into i put my arm into it so i'm really
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like
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[ __ ] y'all i'm talking i'm i'm pissed
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because i knew i know about my heart my
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heart my soul i just put my arm into and
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i know i beat him
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but since he carried the crunk legacy i
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thought that got him over the hump you
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know what i mean so
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man emmanuel was there and um
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like i said like like it was it was no
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looking back from there you know and he
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he chose me
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um to be to represent his fighter over
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the guy that i even lost to so
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i ended up signing with emmanuel and and
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like i said the rest was history but i
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wasn't in crunk long so
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but the mentality i had before i even
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went to crunch was already like a crunk
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mentality like i had to go in every day
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like soon as you walk into the gym
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like crunk was so like it ain't too many
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[ __ ] like a hanging crunk like
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the old crime like soon as you why every
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day you walk in that game you have to
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spark like every day like every day you
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got to play russell westbrook
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every day you know what i'm saying so i
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understood when you listen to tommy
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hearns say
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he almost wanted to stop boxing because
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he had to spar
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um a maze a super bad maze
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um every day and he said you know and
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that's the the the story of the uh
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of the city is that that bernard super
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bad maze was actually the best fighter
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from funk ever you know what i'm saying
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so tommy said he had to walk in every
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day
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every day like it's like it's not a day
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that you don't go with spawning and
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you understand why these guys um
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like nowadays are are having like you
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know you know kind of
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medical problems you know it's sad to
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say but with chronic like literally i
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understood why because
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like every day like that a day went by
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when you had the wall like
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you couldn't walk in and you have to
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work like you have to spark
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and you got guys lined up like tommy
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hearns mill mccrory
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uh jimmy paul uh uh uh
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tony james tony uh uh you know what i'm
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saying like
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like like jerome mccullen like all of
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them guys just mind if they are working
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with each other every single day
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like come on every like not every day
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like these are guys that have rewards
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like every single day
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and um but like i said for me i already
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had i had them entirely before i even
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got there
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you know i'm saying but then i got there
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and i'm like i love this [ __ ] like i i
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got a lot of smell of napalm i love
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street fighting before i even got to
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boxing like i was street fighting so
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much
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my mom had to tell my dad get him in
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boxing before somebody kill him
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like that was coming knocking on the
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door every like your sunday days your
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sunday this
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i'm gambling on the street like my mom
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like get him in boxing because that's
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that was really like
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that was like my sanctuary that was like
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my discipline you know and then like i
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was
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i wasn't a bad kid but i was i was
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always for the [ __ ] you know
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but i was with this [ __ ] like any time
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something went down
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i mean i'm the first one i'm the first
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one swinging i'm the first one fighting
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i'm literally my mama's product my mama
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is so fiery bro i swear to god
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i'm i'm literally my dad so cool and
10:53
laid back i used to call my dad so like
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man you saw man
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like you know somebody somebody say
10:58
somebody say something in the store like
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bro we
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cutting in on this [ __ ] like come on
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probably you're getting shot bro
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you know then but my mama mama my mom
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was a firecracker man she always would
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blast off and fire so i really get my my
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energy and my my my tenacity from her
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man so
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um but like i was i was a pretty good
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kid man i was a pretty good kid man but
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um it don't sound like it tony no
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it don't sound like listen to me i i'm
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like i wasn't stealing
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i wasn't a thief i wasn't a writer you
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know what i'm saying so
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i think that's such a bad kid but you
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said once you get the shits
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you with the shits where the shits came
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from where the shit's getting i'm always
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the [ __ ] i'm with the fighting like
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i'm like that's the most
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that's the definition as far as it'll
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take me like that like like i ain't
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gonna kill you ain't gonna stab you
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i ain't gonna do that so he wasn't a
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bully so he wasn't no bully at night
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i was the littlest [ __ ] on earth
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that don't mean [ __ ] come on that don't
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mean she could use a little
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little [ __ ] come on davis tank
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is little too
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yeah but he ain't no bullying walking
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around trying to bully us
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you know man like you know but like i
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wasn't no but i wasn't a bully i always
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protecting myself
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like people used to already pick up me
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because i was little like i was like
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70 pounds in like the sixth grade
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like you know then like i'm really just
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holding my own but literally when i say
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when i when i when i when i
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when i start going somebody bleeding
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somebody somebody bleeding but
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you know i mean like i made a name for
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myself in my middle school and my
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neighborhood
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that every time some fight happened they
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coming to give me tone we both
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i said let's go where we got where you
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stayed
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i
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like literally i swear to god if i could
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go back to my childhood a hundred
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a hundred nights in a row i swear to god
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i would because those were the times
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that i
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that i enjoyed the most before everybody
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started picking up pistols
12:51
before you before you can go to like i
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could i could i could win a fight and go
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to sleep at night like now you can't win
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a fight and go to sleep at night be like
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the [ __ ] about to happen now you know
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like so i could win that fight and i
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could go to sleep and say [ __ ] i should
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be in school
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when you come back you know and then
13:06
whatever happened from there we and it
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and that and that's how to get that
13:09
that's how the generations change man
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like like we would take a woman and
13:14
and if you got fighter in you you just
13:15
keep fighting like until you win
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yeah ain't gonna keep fighting you like
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you're gonna keep fighting for yourself
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like
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i'll lose the fight i'm gonna keep
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coming back because you gotta be ready
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to fight me a hundred times i'm gonna
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come back a hundred times
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and all i know is when i want it i'm
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gonna stop soon i win one and then if i
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see you again you wanna by the end then
13:32
we can go again but
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all i do is win one but you gotta have
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that same kind of energy
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to keep fighting every time you see me
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when you fight me you know what i'm
13:39
saying and then like i said
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now they just ain't like that man it's
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generation man it's just
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it's crazy man you can't even go to
13:45
sleep talking about what i
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that's the right way i want to bring it
13:50
back to the night that you won the belt
13:53
was the game playing against against
13:55
charlo was to box him or go in and try
13:57
to brawl with him
13:59
before you answer before you answer can
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you turn your phone horizontal
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there you go all right gopher yeah
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that's better go ahead uh
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the game plan was actually
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my dad really didn't give me a game plan
14:14
but if i had to say
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which i would lean into more i would say
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the boxing side more
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you know and i would only say that and i
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want to and i would only say that
14:23
because
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and i wouldn't even say if my dad my dad
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wrote whatever i did that's that's the
14:28
kind of guy he was but
14:30
me personally man like a loss kind of
14:34
contained you mentally
14:35
you know like i went from being so
14:37
gritty and so much of a dog
14:39
to losing fights and losing kind of my
14:42
identity to be in that dog because i had
14:44
lost fights
14:45
even when i was a dog you know what i'm
14:47
saying so just trying to figure this
14:49
trying to figure that [ __ ] out man and
14:51
um
14:52
going into that fight and everybody you
14:55
know this guy is this guy
14:57
uh he's got punch this guy's strong like
14:59
i actually tried to talk to
15:01
trout before the fight even happened
15:04
and we was at like the press release or
15:05
something it was all of it it was all
15:06
the fighters
15:07
for the first pbc lineup and i talked to
15:10
try and talk like man that boy could
15:11
punch hard
15:13
so he already got my mind already like
15:15
not
15:16
nervous i wasn't nervous now but i was
15:17
like why do people
15:19
say that like you know man like my body
15:21
ain't like your body
15:22
so don't tell me something you know what
15:24
i'm doing so i'm already like
15:26
getting this everybody like oh this
15:27
guy's strong this guy is better box this
15:29
guy
15:30
you better box this guy you better do
15:31
this but you know everybody body don't
15:34
react the same so
15:35
but me personally though it had nothing
15:36
to do with him i think he had everything
15:38
to do with
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me trying to find my identity again
15:40
because of the losses
15:42
it kind of deterred me from me being who
15:44
i really kind of was you know
15:46
so i just said all i want to do is find
15:48
a way to win this fight just find a way
15:50
to win this fight
15:52
i don't care about any means necessary
15:54
find a way to win this fight
15:56
and then you figure it out from there
15:59
you know what i'm saying so
16:00
i once thought once i got [ __ ] to to
16:02
round one
16:03
i'm like yeah i'm moving pretty good on
16:05
this guy this guy you know this guy
16:07
kind of got slow feet like he kind of he
16:09
kind of slew footed a little bit so it's
16:11
round two happened
16:12
i'm really doing the same thing i'm like
16:13
man this [ __ ] might be easier than i
16:15
thought
16:16
while i'm thinking about four out of
16:17
five so nothing changed like nothing
16:19
changed on my dad i came back to the
16:20
corner my dad like
16:21
you know what you're going bro like you
16:23
know what i'm doing like
16:25
was it was that truth was you familiar
16:27
with that style of fighting that's what
16:29
it was because you've seen that before
16:30
going through crunk and all the gyms
16:31
that you've been through you you fought
16:33
so many dudes that fought the same way
16:35
like like
16:35
like um charlo that night well to be
16:38
honest
16:39
it's not a style in sight but i probably
16:41
never seen
16:42
from being at crunk gym you know i'm
16:44
there like hey like you guys you had
16:46
guys that was walking in there off the
16:47
street that was wild in a [ __ ]
16:49
the guy that was
16:51
sharpening him you know what i'm saying
16:52
like when like when i when i say i was
16:55
16 years old i'm i'm spawning andy lee
16:58
he
16:59
20-0 i'm sparring canine bunchers who
17:01
just won the
17:02
the world championship you know i'm
17:04
going to i'm going to germany and i'm
17:06
sparring vladimir klitschko
17:07
and you know they're like it's not
17:09
really wasn't the style that
17:11
that i that that i was around that i
17:14
that i hadn't seen you know i'm saying
17:16
chad dawson when he was at his peak was
17:17
there
17:18
numbers in like john pascal came you
17:21
know
17:21
it was a dynasty someone was in there
17:23
like all those guys i was spawning all
17:25
those guys even though
17:26
i wouldn't even they wait but i was
17:27
spawning all those guys they all got
17:29
this guy right here man this guy
17:31
this guy's a mongoose like you know man
17:33
like this guy is
17:34
fearless you know then i'm not just how
17:36
i was man so
17:37
it wasn't really a style that i had that
17:40
i hadn't seen before
17:41
but but most importantly it wasn't a
17:43
person on this earth that
17:44
could give me something that would that
17:46
would make me fearful of
17:48
you know what i'm saying so yo that's
17:50
where i went
17:51
i i i've never really heard someone kind
17:55
of break down the mentality like the
17:57
mental process you go through after you
17:59
lose
18:00
your first fight you you were 21-0
18:02
before you
18:03
took your first kill right right right
18:05
nelson
18:06
um right walk us through that man
18:10
like because all the greats muhammad ali
18:14
you know you name them thomas hearn you
18:16
know a haggler
18:18
sugar ray leonard you know all the
18:20
greats have lost fights
18:23
yes my my thing wasn't so far as
18:26
like when you compete and you lose like
18:28
you know that like you lose something
18:29
you win something when you compete
18:31
you know them but the the part that kind
18:34
of got me
18:40
how stuff started to break up after the
18:43
loss you know and then like
18:45
how many friends i had left some you
18:48
know
18:48
then like my team started breaking up so
18:51
i'm really thinking like i'm the [ __ ]
18:53
the reason why this [ __ ] is really
18:55
crumbling this [ __ ] really folding but
18:56
and and in actuality it was really
18:59
manifesting
19:00
how it should have manifested from the
19:02
beginning you know i shouldn't have that
19:03
many people with me
19:04
in the beginning you know it should have
19:05
been just love in the beginning it
19:07
should have just been these people that
19:08
wasn't able to walk away you know i was
19:11
gonna have people to have stuff to gain
19:12
from the beginning so
19:13
but in actuality they they made it i'm
19:17
you know them them doing the things they
19:18
did kind of made me feel like i
19:20
was doing something wrong like you know
19:21
what i'm saying like
19:23
we was all in the sky we was all in the
19:24
mayor's office when we was 21-0
19:26
we were walking that [ __ ] with
19:28
hats on you know chilling on
19:30
you know man and we we you know in the
19:33
mirror like
19:34
which i need you know what they're like
19:35
so that's kind of that's kind of
19:37
the the kind of gifts we had when we
19:40
were winning
19:41
and then we took our first loss and you
19:43
know
19:44
and then everybody started to
19:48
disbelieve in the talent now you know
19:50
what i'm saying so
19:51
you know just just trying to figure it
19:53
out then i lost to a guy that i was
19:55
dominating like it was
19:56
that's what hurt me the [ __ ] most
19:58
like damn like you
20:00
was one losing a round like i was losing
20:03
a round
20:04
you know so another thing
20:07
that fight i think i just got so
20:09
emotionally involved man when somebody
20:11
touched me in a
20:12
in a a weigh-in i'm not you know i mean
20:15
like my mind was so detroit like i'm
20:17
like
20:18
don't nobody just touch me and and
20:21
i don't nobody just touch me and don't
20:23
and then we just not fighting like right
20:25
then in there you know
20:26
so really that hard i swear to god that
20:28
whole night i'm
20:29
i'm boiling i'm boiling i'm boiling them
20:31
i'm really mad at myself like
20:33
using like i'm calling myself all kinds
20:34
of names like you soft as [ __ ] you or
20:36
you a whole
20:38
like you know and then so you can you
20:39
get somebody you get to touch somebody
20:40
in the wind and you ain't doing nothing
20:42
you know
20:42
so really my my mind was already like
20:44
like telling myself like man you just
20:46
saw man you ain't the old you know you
20:48
ain't the old
20:48
you would have been went off on him
20:50
you're the best one so really you know
20:52
they're like
20:52
i was going through so much like i said
20:55
man it's nobody in
20:57
on earth i said they touched me i didn't
20:59
do nothing to them you know and then i
21:00
felt so much like a sucker that night um
21:03
when i went to bed and i'm like man why
21:05
the [ __ ] you let this [ __ ] do this bro
21:07
like you know that it was by was
21:08
weighing in on me that whole night
21:10
so we getting around number nine
21:14
and i got i got a lot more
21:18
i got i got a lot more left in me and
21:19
i'm like instead of me just cruising
21:22
because i could
21:22
i could just easily just outbox and
21:24
cruise through the last two rounds only
21:26
two more rounds uh
21:27
i guess in the corner i said can i step
21:29
on the gas i want to try to knock him
21:31
out
21:32
my dad and my dad said no
21:36
but the assistant guy was like step on
21:39
the gas
21:40
and that's all i really need to hear as
21:42
a guy that's fiery like that like
21:44
they let you know they like step on the
21:45
gas go get go try you know
21:47
so but that's all i need to hear even if
21:49
even if i had i heard a hundred no's
21:51
all i need to hear was one yes to kind
21:54
of get my mind going and say okay well
21:56
[ __ ] step on the gas we got one yes
21:59
see but how am i feeling you know
22:01
they're like that one out of a hundred
22:04
that one take that one though
22:07
you know i'm saying yeah don't take that
22:08
one like a hundred people could say
22:10
man don't don't get in that car with
22:11
them don't get in that car with them and
22:13
it could be one person saying yeah you
22:14
know what get in the car with them
22:16
you know you know you know they good
22:17
people get in the car with them and they
22:18
only take that one person and kind of
22:19
persuade your mind
22:20
in the wrong kind of way but uh
22:25
like i wanted that so bad like the first
22:27
pvc
22:28
fight on fox or whatever it was on show
22:31
time i wanted to knock out so bad
22:32
and i wanted it so so bad not only that
22:35
but like i said
22:36
the weigh-ins was kind of super
22:38
emotional for me so i really wonder what
22:40
knocking so knock out so bad but like i
22:42
said after that fight
22:43
it really it really was it was god's
22:47
plan
22:48
it was god that was that was god's plan
22:49
you know man just to kind of slow me
22:51
down and
22:53
i'm gonna bring me back to life in
22:55
reality it was god's plan to just make
22:57
the how it happened was just
22:59
like i like bro slow down you know then
23:01
like
23:02
well you know man life is moving i got
23:04
like moving a little too fast
23:06
down a little bit you know
23:11
guy in the game nobody can beat you you
23:14
was undefeated in the streets
23:17
you know i get it and and like i said i
23:19
got
23:20
god god like i said god made it work how
23:23
it was supposed to work for me man i
23:25
i don't i don't think nothing i don't
23:26
think nothing from it man because i
23:27
learned so much on the way
23:30
and um at the end um
23:33
this team has been my team for the
23:35
beginning but like i said the team
23:37
was at a million at first you know what
23:39
i'm saying like we had a million man
23:40
march at first you know i'm saying so
23:43
um you know it like i said you never
23:46
know where i'd be if i was still
23:48
undefeated or you know then you never
23:50
know where i'd be i don't know what you
23:51
know
23:52
so i really just wanted to keep it like
23:53
this and
23:55
this is the way i always had it anyway
23:56
but i always wanted to be like this
23:58
you know and then like yeah hey don't
24:01
after you got that belt man you was
24:03
you was rocking you was the champion you
24:05
running around and all that
24:06
now listen i'm serious man i lost bread
24:09
[ __ ] with you man like honestly the
24:10
second fight i just want to know what
24:12
happened bro
24:13
like what like honestly man like i
24:14
really believe that you had the answer
24:16
like honestly listen i was like this
24:18
dude got the answer being from detroit
24:20
you was popping your [ __ ]
24:21
i ain't seen nobody pop [ __ ] like that
24:23
since mike honestly you was talking your
24:25
[ __ ] i was like yo he already got the
24:27
game one because it's a mental thing
24:28
he's already in his head
24:29
i agree i said yo this dude got him what
24:32
happened
24:33
was you partying did you have all them
24:34
girls in the room did that actually
24:36
happen that that's what happened you had
24:37
the girls in the room that you called
24:39
it no no not a second fight man the
24:41
second fight i swear to god i wanted to
24:43
win that one better than the first one
24:45
um so like i said i was i i like i said
24:48
i
24:49
i believed in myself so much like i bet
24:51
on myself so much
24:53
that it's not a time that when it comes
24:54
down to fighting i'm gonna take any
24:55
shortcuts like i i'm not gonna take no
24:57
shortcuts
24:58
i'm gonna do how it's supposed to be
24:59
done i'm a trainer i'm supposed to train
25:01
uh we went out of town and for uh and
25:04
when went to florida for like two months
25:07
um i got away from my family got away
25:08
from my friends i went to a place i
25:10
didn't know
25:11
um i bought some of the toughest barney
25:14
um
25:15
from from all around and like i said i
25:17
really i really wanted to win that
25:18
[ __ ] but i think
25:19
the the determining factor for me was
25:25
it was kind of like three things for me
25:27
one
25:29
was i think the year layoff played in a
25:31
big a big
25:33
part in how how
25:36
how his timing was and how my timing was
25:38
you know like he had fought in between
25:40
and july with that was the day we were
25:44
supposed to originally fight
25:46
and um you hurt your hand right i hurt
25:49
my ankle
25:50
your ankle okay yeah yeah i had two
25:52
ligament in my ankle so uh
25:53
he did he fought that day and
25:57
like i said i had this guy buried buried
25:59
like i had him buried like mentally i
26:01
had him buried
26:02
yes but him winning that fight
26:05
with jorge kota and knocking him out
26:07
like the third round
26:09
it just revitalized that guy that i
26:11
didn't need to be revitalized
26:12
in the in a in a mental kind of way you
26:15
know he revitalized himself mentally
26:17
by saying after the fight oh yeah i got
26:19
it on my team you know my team
26:20
you know we had to distract your stuff
26:22
up we you know i said we back on it we
26:24
back on we
26:25
see harrison you know so i think step
26:28
number one for me was just that year off
26:30
of me
26:31
and when it came back to fight number
26:33
two his like
26:35
the i swear to god and this i said you
26:37
know that's on my that's on my dear
26:39
father
26:40
like everybody was saying how strong
26:42
this guy was
26:44
before i even brought him the first time
26:45
i'm like this guy is literally like
26:49
not strong at all you know what i'm
26:50
saying and i come back the second fight
26:53
after a year and i've been here with 10
26:54
ounce gloves
26:56
and i'm like this [ __ ] was not
26:58
hitting like this
27:00
the first time you know what i'm saying
27:02
like you got something like that
27:04
no no no that wasn't it that wasn't
27:06
[ __ ]
27:08
that wasn't it that was it was my body
27:10
that took a year off
27:13
from competing with 10 ounce gloves on
27:16
at a fast level the fast pace like
27:18
when i got in there i started moving
27:19
like i'm like damn i'm you know
27:21
i'm back like mentally i understand
27:23
where i am i'm back
27:25
physically i'm like this [ __ ] is moving
27:28
kind of faster than i kind of remember
27:29
you know they're like like
27:30
you know they're like this [ __ ] kind of
27:33
moving a little bit faster
27:34
you know his first time hitting me like
27:36
it wasn't even like a
27:38
a hard shot but my body reacted to it
27:40
like dude like where are you
27:41
at like you know like somebody just hit
27:43
you with something like you ain't you
27:45
know then like
27:45
you don't remember you know there's oh
27:47
boom my sick that [ __ ] all like damn
27:49
okay bet
27:51
you in a gunfight now you know that i
27:53
know exactly where i am you know
27:54
the first night gotta kind of get me
27:55
like okay i know exactly where i'm at
27:58
you know okay i'm in a [ __ ] fight
28:00
okay all right i'm here you know
28:02
it shook you up no i didn't even but
28:04
craig didn't even shake me it wasn't
28:06
even like a
28:07
uh uh like i swear to god it wasn't like
28:09
a punch that hurt me or nothing it was
28:11
just like
28:12
boom hit your body is like your body my
28:14
body just like and this you know man you
28:17
in a fight kind of thing you know
28:18
like one no hard shot or nothing so
28:22
i get back to the corner and i'm telling
28:24
my pops like look
28:27
why why are we why are we trying to you
28:29
know they're like why are we trying to
28:30
box this guy again
28:32
which was that was our game plan number
28:34
one we were successful with it he
28:35
understand that that's
28:36
kind of kind of our going to be our game
28:38
plan again because we were successful
28:40
with the first i said
28:41
let's push this [ __ ] ass [ __ ] back
28:43
like you know and then like
28:44
he ain't stronger than like i keep
28:46
telling him i'm telling him i popped in
28:47
the corner like
28:48
he's not stronger than me bro like he
28:49
don't punch harder than me you're not
28:51
strong to me and mentally you're not
28:52
tempting me
28:53
so i'm probably like how you feeling i
28:55
said i'm about to go get this [ __ ]
28:56
i said we want to build i said we want
28:59
to build
29:02
we got to our that was our destination
29:04
that was our destination point from the
29:05
start you know then when i when i'm
29:07
praying put on blood that's that was a
29:08
destination point so i'm like
29:11
we won that already we don't got nothing
29:13
to we don't gotta we don't gotta
29:15
you know i'm gonna fight on the shield
29:16
no more like let's let this [ __ ] let's
29:18
drop the shield now
29:19
you know that let's get back to this get
29:20
back to the raw [ __ ] like you know that
29:22
sometimes let's get back to the basement
29:24
let's get back to the freestyle
29:26
freestyle friday you know and they got
29:28
to be we ought to be industry no more we
29:30
ain't got to be commercially more
29:31
politically normal let's get back to
29:32
let's get back to the basement you know
29:34
what i'm saying so
29:35
i put the gloves up i come out i have an
29:38
excellent ride after the knockdown boom
29:39
i'm like my probably like all right i
29:41
see what you're doing with this you know
29:42
man let's
29:43
let's get back on that you know i'm
29:44
saying i think i think i was
29:46
i was doing so good that i was so i i
29:50
just got comfortable man i was i was so
29:52
comfortable but i don't even think that
29:53
was
29:54
that was the point for me i think the
29:56
point for me is
29:59
physically when you do you
30:02
like when it when the sport of boxing
30:03
you got to do this [ __ ] correct like it
30:05
has to be done
30:07
a hundred percent correct and i think
30:10
um my training was was very good
30:17
that um it needed to be pushed to but uh
30:20
that we gotta fight the day before the
30:23
fight
30:25
i was still like six pounds overweight
30:27
you know what i'm saying so i had to
30:29
i had to lose six pounds and i actually
30:31
lost six pounds in an
30:33
hour right before the win this was the
30:35
hour before the win i'm like six
30:36
five pounds over i literally lost that
30:38
[ __ ] like that in an hour
30:40
me and my brother we i don't i ain't
30:42
gonna give away my philosophy
30:45
oh that's the secret
30:48
oh
31:01
my man franklin again
31:05
i literally i swear to god i lost
31:09
six pounds in like an hour i'm running
31:12
to the weigh-in because they they're
31:13
like yo yo where
31:14
i literally boom
31:17
hop on the scale this is ten minutes
31:20
before the weigh-in
31:21
all right here [ __ ] yeah i'm out wait
31:23
154 i'm that way
31:25
me and my brother running we racing to
31:26
that [ __ ] my mom's driving the
31:27
[ __ ] i'm foaming at my [ __ ]
31:29
gotta keep licking my [ __ ]
31:30
because i want i don't want the
31:32
[ __ ] to kind of see me
31:34
kind of see me looking out you know i
31:35
was like dry out here they like oh yeah
31:37
you know
31:38
you know you know i just chill spidey he
31:40
lost a lot of weight coming into this
31:42
i'm i'm i'm dry i'm buttery out here i'm
31:45
keep licking my lips
31:47
no water in my [ __ ] like tongue dry
31:50
and i think that that kind of like in
31:52
the later parts of the rounds
31:54
i think that kind of and i i really
31:57
think that's why
31:58
when i say his punches wasn't that hard
32:00
i really kind of think like my body
32:02
didn't have enough fluids in it you know
32:03
they say your brain
32:04
got to have a certain amount of fluids
32:06
in it when it's going back when somebody
32:07
hitting it is rattling it's going back
32:08
and forth
32:09
you know what i'm saying like i think i
32:11
dehydrated myself so much
32:14
to make that weight and then
32:18
even after that weigh-in like i couldn't
32:21
hold nothing like that's how much
32:22
i had killed myself like i'm drinking
32:25
water i i can't only want to eat nothing
32:27
i literally drink
32:28
like three waters two juices didn't eat
32:30
nothing the whole night i'm
32:31
[ __ ] and i'm only [ __ ] out water
32:34
you know what i'm doing like that
32:35
you know i had my name i hadn't i
32:37
literally had any my body wouldn't hold
32:39
nothing my body would hold no food like
32:42
my body was just
32:43
like damaged i literally went right to
32:45
sleep and i woke up in the morning i was
32:46
feeling better but
32:48
you know i probably needed like another
32:49
day of that
32:51
to kind of get to a point where i could
32:53
really maximize my body in the fight you
32:55
know and then i think the later parts
32:56
around i think
32:57
my body started to really kind of you
32:59
know tell herself like
33:03
you know what i'm saying like you just
33:04
did it wrong you know what i'm doing
33:05
because like i said
33:06
yeah because like i said i got hit with
33:08
the best shots his heartache shots in
33:09
his bedsides
33:10
early round one two three four five six
33:12
seven eight
33:13
round eleven it ain't nothing you can
33:16
bring it up to the table no more that i
33:17
ain't seen already you know there's no
33:19
kind of strip
33:19
extra strength no kind of extra power
33:22
you know
33:22
if anything is probably depreciated
33:24
because of the endurance this muscle
33:25
endurance is probably down you know and
33:27
then so
33:28
he didn't even know shots i didn't that
33:29
he hit me with in the first place
33:31
i'm in i'm on i'm in i'm in the shell
33:32
i'm in the philly shell now
33:34
you know this i didn't take his hardest
33:35
punches early you know
33:37
so i just think it was it was the way i
33:39
did this [ __ ] man
33:40
yeah and i can't do it like that did you
33:43
did you in retrospect when you look back
33:46
because i remember when the ref stopped
33:47
the fight
33:48
and you was like yelling at the ref like
33:49
man come on man like what we you know
33:51
but in retrospect do you think it was a
33:53
good stoppage
33:56
uh i think the ref you know what me as a
33:59
fighter like
34:01
and i'm the champ i'm like i stood up
34:08
um i'm i'm i'm i'm
34:11
i feel good you know i feel better than
34:13
i felt after the first night now i feel
34:15
better than i feel about it
34:17
i wanna be knocked down three times or
34:18
twice after this even if you're not
34:20
gonna yeah i felt bad i felt so much
34:22
better like
34:22
i feel like my body just needed that
34:24
again you know what i'm saying
34:26
and i felt i felt good but in retrospect
34:29
time
34:30
as a referee when you see somebody get
34:32
knocked down three times
34:34
yeah and i'm just curled up you know
34:36
what i'm getting trying to get trying to
34:38
get
34:38
my my curl up is not letting him just
34:40
well up on me and just
34:41
my curl up is just me gathering myself
34:43
now you know i'm really curled up to
34:45
these guys on my
34:46
by myself and to come back to to the to
34:49
the
34:49
to the space where i ain't busy myself
34:51
no more you know i'm saying i was there
34:53
i swear to god give me five more seconds
34:55
i was digging i would start swinging
34:56
back
34:57
you know i'm saying give me five more
34:58
seconds but you know what i'm saying
34:59
like
35:00
like like you like i i never knock him
35:02
for doing his job that's you know that's
35:04
that's that's an opinionated job from
35:06
anybody that's a referee so if i'm i'm a
35:08
referee and i see somebody getting
35:10
knocked out three times maybe i'll stop
35:11
that fight too
35:12
so you know i'm not knocking for a job
35:15
at all
35:16
uh man i i think it's interesting
35:19
because back in the day man
35:20
in order to get the belt you had to
35:22
knock the champ out no
35:23
right you know nowadays is a lot
35:26
different i think it's because of safety
35:28
measures they're more conscious
35:30
of the safety measures i just thought
35:32
that after
35:34
you re you you you gained the belt and
35:36
then you gave him a rematch
35:39
i figured it was going to be a trilogy
35:40
before you had this fight with brian
35:42
perella
35:43
uh why didn't that happen um
35:48
i think that was um
35:55
i don't know man i think the times are
35:56
changing man like the world ain't as
35:58
competitive no more i think uh if you
36:00
beat me and i beat you
36:02
[ __ ] in the race we got to do it
36:05
again
36:08
that's just the competitive nature of
36:09
any man i think um
36:13
but uh like i said you you can hear that
36:15
you can hear it in interviews um
36:18
he he said i was the toughest fight he
36:20
ever had and i and you could tell you
36:21
know
36:22
like you could tell like not only tough
36:24
physically but i think the
36:26
the the the the press conferences and
36:28
[ __ ] he's like this [ __ ] got
36:30
some ammo
36:32
like this [ __ ] i was talking
36:34
[ __ ] but guess what
36:36
like i like i'm from detroit man like
36:38
get for gab is our is our is our nature
36:41
you know
36:41
they're like that's an art that's in our
36:43
dna you know but
36:44
i don't think it's where he from i don't
36:46
think he like he don't like
36:48
i'm dropping so much so many dimes at
36:50
him yeah you know
36:51
he like they never seen that like
36:56
but like i said i i thought it made for
36:58
an amazing fight
37:00
um but you know
37:04
in his defense um
37:10
since he did not fight me at least he
37:12
didn't fight
37:13
somebody that was lester you know he
37:16
looks like a lesser guy
37:17
you know so in his defense he's chasing
37:20
legacy
37:20
so i can i could give him that you know
37:22
then he went he went to go unify the
37:24
bell and fight another belt holder
37:26
try to get that next belt you know what
37:27
i'm saying so i'm not even i'm not even
37:29
knocking him
37:30
on giving me the trilogy because you
37:32
didn't fight you didn't you didn't go
37:33
fight a mandatory
37:34
you know you ain't gonna fight somebody
37:36
that didn't have nothing on the line
37:38
you know what i'm saying didn't skip me
37:39
on a trilogy but you know and you want
37:41
you to pop
37:42
put your legacy you know then so i'm i'm
37:44
i'm all
37:45
i'm all in for that but i wrote him and
37:48
i told him congratulations on unifying
37:50
that division but i said i said [ __ ]
37:53
you still owe me one
37:55
i said and i said whether whether
37:58
for the bill or not we could be at a
38:00
catch weight like i don't need your bill
38:02
i just don't want to die being
38:04
one-on-one with you
38:05
you know what i'm saying like anything
38:07
gotta be ain't gonna be for nobody you
38:08
keep your belts
38:09
you can you can you can be the
38:11
undisputed champ you have all the bells
38:13
meet me at 156. keep your belts
38:17
and let's just do this [ __ ] for the
38:18
people let's just do this [ __ ] for the
38:20
culture
38:21
let's do that [ __ ] for the pride of who
38:23
is the better fighter between tony
38:25
harrison and jeremiah charlotte and
38:26
that's really all i wanted to do
38:28
please say i
38:39
but i know that i but i know that's like
38:41
that's like a sarcastic ass
38:44
answer like huh laugh out loud you know
38:47
that's like a a
38:48
girl telling you you know i can't i can
38:49
see yeah you can see me yeah
38:51
you know what then i started something
38:54
so i know you don't really want to do
38:55
that again though
38:56
before we talk about that trilogy you've
38:59
been off for 16 months this is the
39:00
return to the ring
39:02
you're about to fight a a southpaw
39:04
fighter that's moving up in weight
39:05
what can we expect is this what what
39:07
tone what tony harris are we going to
39:09
expect to see saturday
39:10
the 17th i think um i
39:14
like i said i i wanna i'm i'm gonna ride
39:16
my high times and i think i think like
39:18
the last hour that i had with jemele
39:20
um pushing him back um pushing the
39:24
action
39:25
um not only is that a ticket seller but
39:27
you know it makes it look like i'm just
39:29
physically
39:30
more dominant than the rest of the guys
39:32
when i'm pushing them back and
39:34
and i'm and i'm going for the gusto
39:36
every every parts of every round so i
39:37
think i'm i'm
39:38
a ride on that i'm a ride on um
39:42
um just being more physical than this
39:44
guy
39:45
um i hate fighting support let me let me
39:48
give you that anyway like
39:49
i ain't [ __ ] fighting softball um
39:54
you don't mind admitting that though you
39:55
you say that out loud you hate me
39:58
no i [ __ ] hate fights but i but i
40:00
only hate it because it's not
40:02
it's not regular for me you know there's
40:04
not it's not regular when you walk in
40:06
the gym
40:07
it's it's more right-handed guys in the
40:09
gym than left-handed guys
40:11
you know there's more right-handed
40:13
basketball players than it is
40:15
left-handed basketball players you know
40:16
and then like
40:17
so when it comes down to a left-hand
40:18
basketball player playing the
40:19
right-handed basketball player you get
40:21
that more commonly than
40:23
a right-handed player playing the
40:24
left-handed player you know what i'm
40:25
saying so
40:26
it's not that i don't like it because uh
40:29
like i just don't like it it's just i
40:31
don't like it because it's it's it's
40:33
it becomes a normal to me because i
40:35
think it's not something i normally do
40:37
you know so i'm used to normalizing
40:39
things you know then like normalizing
40:40
things is me fighting another
40:41
right-handed fighter
40:43
so but uh i think coming off 16 months i
40:46
think
40:47
um you you can expect
40:50
um me to kind of have like maybe like
40:52
two or three rounds and just
40:54
getting this [ __ ] back together getting
40:56
this speed back right getting um this
40:58
time back right
40:59
um are we looking for a knockout oh for
41:02
sure
41:02
okay what i'm talking about that's what
41:04
i'm talking about okay finally
41:06
i'm real scientific over there man i'm
41:09
gonna ask that question bro
41:11
that's what i'm saying i'm like yo hey
41:13
brother
41:14
high school bro come on you gotta do all
41:16
that with me that's what
41:17
i don't know
41:27
16 months to be like let me stay away
41:30
from this man i want him
41:31
to be like i'm staying away from this
41:32
[ __ ] that's that's kind of
41:34
that's kind of image that's kind of
41:36
that's the kind of performance i want to
41:37
put on i'm staying away from this guy
41:39
let me just stay away from this guy this
41:40
guy and this guy a little too much
41:42
you know i'm doing it and that's cool
41:44
that's cool with me [ __ ] just
41:46
that's the kind of reputation i want to
41:47
be honest let my [ __ ] be like
41:49
when they come down and ask them do we
41:51
want to fight tonight nah
41:53
not right now so this place this place
41:56
to put everybody on notice
41:57
telling this fight is to put 154 back on
41:59
notice again
42:01
man listen to me it's to put everybody
42:03
back on
42:05
let let this [ __ ] take another
42:07
16 months off before we fight
42:09
yeah okay that let me know i did my job
42:13
with a [ __ ]
42:14
i'm gonna take 16 months off hey the
42:16
game needs you tom you talk your [ __ ]
42:18
the game
42:19
from detroit you already know what it is
42:21
man i hope you know how serious this
42:22
[ __ ] is man
42:23
man i agree brother game need me bro the
42:25
game don't got nothing like me no more
42:27
and
42:27
the game is so frozen and fake now these
42:29
[ __ ] fake and fraudulent
42:31
they want to be something they're not in
42:33
that that ain't mean man i expose the
42:35
exposure man
42:37
i bully the bully you know where they
42:38
think the bully is i bully the bully you
42:40
know what i'm saying so
42:42
the game the game need me man the game
42:44
need him in and um
42:46
i i might love fighting so much man but
42:48
sway i might like it i might like your
42:50
job more man
42:51
come with it bro come on hey look man
42:53
i'll rock with you come on man
42:54
we i can share this space that's what we
42:56
do
43:06
get the belt and hold it for years i'm
43:08
gonna let you fight
43:16
come on man [ __ ] i can share the ring it
43:18
ain't nothing
43:19
i ain't losing tony ain't never lost
43:29
what's harder to become the champ or the
43:31
static champ
43:33
i think the state of champ is harder man
43:34
to be honest um
43:36
you know when we when you're the champ
43:39
when you
43:40
were you the golden state warriors
43:45
like every team in the nba wants to beat
43:47
you like you know they're like
43:49
you know they're like the golden state
43:50
words are aren't thinking about beating
43:52
the pistons
43:53
you know they supposed to beat the
43:54
pistons you know but the pistons for
43:56
sure
43:57
when they play the golden state nuggets
43:58
that's how we gaze you know how we're
43:59
good we are because
44:00
we're gonna get these [ __ ] at
44:02
all and that and that
44:04
and that's that's how that's that's how
44:05
sporty is like
44:07
once you fight for the belt you get that
44:09
[ __ ] your [ __ ]
44:10
all like you give it everything you got
44:13
to beat the champion
44:14
once you become the champion you don't
44:16
even think about the guys
44:18
that you shouldn't even be talking about
44:19
like some guys look up on fights like um
44:22
i think joe blow
44:23
you know they're like just let me find a
44:25
guy like brian pirelli wouldn't have
44:26
been my pick like you know
44:28
like i wanted to fight somebody had just
44:29
as much to lose me you know
44:31
like i wouldn't be fighting no guy
44:33
that's coming up and wait like i ain't
44:34
got none of the game but i'm gonna go
44:35
ahead and destroy him
44:36
but i ain't got really i ain't got
44:38
really too much to gain from that you
44:39
know what i'm saying like
44:40
that's how that's how that's that that's
44:42
how it is when you are champion because
44:44
you gotta fight so many guys
44:46
that you probably know nothing about um
44:49
that that you probably seen less footage
44:52
on
44:53
and everybody seemed footage on you
44:54
because you always on the spotlight you
44:56
always that guy that
44:57
you always got tapes out here that
45:00
somebody can study from you know
45:01
so i think it's hard to to to remain the
45:04
champ than it is
45:05
to become the champ man i think um so i
45:08
think i think i think
45:08
you you just you got the balls off i
45:10
want you to check you got the balls off
45:12
target is on your back
45:13
all day all day man i want to ask you
45:16
from detroit man they get money in
45:17
detroit i know how it is man when i go
45:19
to detroit man
45:20
uh it's a few dudes that i run with i
45:22
like i like the mentality remind me of
45:24
oakland
45:25
right yeah so you said earlier on is
45:28
prior to losing your first fight you had
45:31
a million people around you
45:33
and now you got the right people around
45:36
you
45:36
you also mentioned how being a trainer
45:38
is like having a middleweight
45:39
a middle-aged i'm not a middle-aged but
45:42
minimum wage job all
45:43
you know you don't really pay until it
45:44
they pay talk to me about the business
45:47
of boxing man
45:48
like you know does everybody in the
45:51
posse get paid
45:52
everybody in the crew get paid um
45:56
i don't you know i don't know how um
46:00
you know i i think i think everybody
46:02
deal is is is sold separately you know
46:05
everybody everybody game is so
46:06
separate guys my my deal um
46:10
i never had a promoter i never had a
46:12
manager i've always
46:13
i always from detroit i can talk for
46:15
myself you know
46:17
i can negotiate for myself i don't need
46:18
no no manager here taking my money
46:20
because
46:21
they want a middleman a deal that i
46:23
could probably minimize myself
46:24
you know so i never had a manager i
46:27
never had a promoter
46:29
uh i had a local promoter here when i
46:31
was fighting here but never had a
46:32
promoter
46:33
um so every deal that came through came
46:35
through to me you know man i never
46:37
i felt like i was i i was i was
46:40
undeserving
46:41
of enough money i probably should know
46:43
but me uh it was never enough money for
46:45
me to do something that i already love i
46:47
just bet on myself
46:48
you know what i'm saying so i think the
46:49
business side of it is
46:52
um could be tricky at some point
46:55
you know some people some people i think
46:56
have to sign with
46:58
with managers and promoters or or get
47:01
four or five guys in their pot
47:03
just to get to el hayman you know what
47:06
man like sometimes
47:07
sometimes your best bet is to not just
47:10
be where you at is to get to al haymon
47:13
but you gotta
47:14
you gotta find the middleman the
47:15
middleman that middleman to find that
47:17
middleman to get you to out hey
47:19
though and now you're giving up so many
47:21
so much equity in yourself
47:23
but in actuality you would have never
47:24
got to al haymon without
47:26
the full middleman you know what i'm
47:27
saying so that's kind of how that stuff
47:29
go man but
47:30
um if if if you're a new fighter man i'm
47:34
telling you bet on yourself
47:35
i'm telling you just take the take the
47:37
hard route like i did um sell tickets
47:39
go door-to-door and and it become
47:42
anything that's this is my philosophy to
47:44
come anything
47:46
and whatever you whatever you win you
47:47
make you dominate your city first
47:50
make that make may be to be the best one
47:51
in your city first
47:53
bang young city be the buzz in your city
47:55
that's that's what i was i was the buzz
47:57
so every time i had a fight i saw that
47:59
kobo arena without promoting without a
48:01
manager i sold that [ __ ] out
48:03
you know what i'm saying so that's
48:05
something like you dominate your city
48:07
then you you know then you can go to
48:08
atlanta eat you know then you could
48:10
you know if you're an artist if you if
48:12
you could sell out cobo as an artist
48:14
it's time to go to atlanta my [ __ ] you
48:16
know and then like it's time to go to
48:17
l.a
48:18
you know so so that's my thing i think
48:21
if everybody's just better on themselves
48:22
and and everybody look for the footage
48:25
for the
48:25
for the shortest and everything and not
48:28
just when it
48:28
not just want to grind it out and bet on
48:30
itself and that's what i did i grinded
48:32
out a bit of myself
48:36
after boxing what's your life after
48:37
boxing detroit seem like the
48:39
the real estate out there is real cheap
48:41
and stuff like that do you have any
48:42
plans after boxing what you want to do
48:44
like for us because you can't box no i
48:46
agree
48:47
um to be honest man real estate man like
48:50
they didn't water this [ __ ] down you got
48:52
[ __ ] like
48:53
like swaying them but they coming to buy
48:56
our [ __ ]
48:56
oh man man we was buying buildings for
48:58
5k in detroit man
49:00
easy easy downtown detroit 5k
49:03
10k swooping them up man but
49:06
you you 300k and i don't know
49:11
what that without doing a goddamn thing
49:12
to it you 300k
49:14
yeah so you know like like like for me
49:17
man i just want to do something so like
49:19
i just want to keep it unique man i just
49:20
want to do what my father did with me
49:23
with a bunch of other kids that needed
49:24
you know they're like like that's the
49:25
thing like i don't even think about
49:27
myself no but i don't even think about
49:29
what i'm gonna do
49:31
um on a financial standpoint because
49:35
um my my calling is is kids
49:38
my calling is giving what i give to
49:40
these kids every day you know they're
49:41
spending my
49:42
spending my time and hours with these
49:44
kids i think that's why i've been so
49:45
blessed
49:46
because i spend my time and hours with
49:48
those kids
49:49
each and every day and and i give back
49:53
probably more money than i even have to
49:57
to every to the to the communities that
49:59
need it more than me
50:00
you know man like me i'm i got a muslim
50:02
state of mind so i could go yeah i go
50:03
get it
50:04
you know i'm saying but um
50:08
my my truth is is if you got a village
50:10
for the 20 kids
50:12
and you put your all in 20 kids somebody
50:14
got to make it yeah you know
50:16
my philosophy is somebody's going to
50:17
make it somebody's going to be
50:18
successful out of this group
50:20
if i just teach them the mentality of
50:21
how to go get it you know somebody's
50:23
going to be successful you know
50:24
then they look out for me and i look out
50:26
for them and then look out for me and i
50:28
look out for them and if everybody make
50:29
it
50:30
see i got a bunch of kids out here baby
50:33
killing the game you got a lot of um
50:36
let's talk about some of the boxers the
50:38
kids the up and coming boxes at your gym
50:40
man you got a few boxers turning pro
50:42
soon right
50:43
oh yeah you doing the research come on
50:46
come on man don't do that to me tony
50:48
come on man
50:49
come on man you grew up watching me
50:51
don't do that man all right
50:54
i like you come on man we got we got up
50:57
we got our two guys man and when i say
50:59
man i i bet i bet my last on these guys
51:02
man
51:02
i've been my last on these guys and like
51:04
i said they doing the same right we did
51:06
it man they
51:07
they're gonna they're gonna pay for
51:08
their opponent today seven they may not
51:09
make a dime
51:10
you know what i'm saying like that's
51:12
that's the way that's the way to go when
51:13
you've been on yourself
51:14
you know then like and now i could
51:16
easily come out and fund it but
51:18
no it's it's more it's more it's more of
51:20
the middle glory
51:21
to say that i paid for that i didn't
51:24
make a dime but i paid for that to
51:26
become something for myself
51:28
you know what i'm saying so these guys
51:29
are fighting in atlanta
51:31
um this weekend they pro debuts um we
51:34
got another guy that's an amateur
51:36
that i've been sprawling with getting
51:37
ready for this fight that's been pushing
51:39
the [ __ ] out of me
51:41
man i'm when i say pushing me man and
51:42
then we got like a bunch of guys and
51:44
they're just coming up
51:45
that's that's from peewee to junior to
51:48
elite
51:48
you know what i'm saying like in there i
51:50
know our ages man and we
51:52
we're just developing these guys man to
51:54
be the strongest group of kids man
51:57
like like really like really we we
51:59
breaking
52:00
i'm we we we we breaking the rules for
52:03
how the generation is going
52:05
you know like we're going you got to
52:06
grind out we you got to be a 90s baby
52:08
like we all like
52:09
all our kids right now 2020 20 babies
52:13
2 dogs and 8 10 babies you know you're
52:16
really from the 90s because that's what
52:17
we're going to teach you know i'm saying
52:18
like
52:19
we're going to teach you from the 80s
52:20
like my brother's from the 80s
52:22
i'm from i'm from 90 and we're going to
52:25
teach you we're going to teach you how
52:26
to go get it the old school way
52:27
you know ain't nothing going to be
52:29
handed to you we ain't taking a shortcut
52:31
we don't want no breaks
52:33
we want you to give us nothing we're
52:34
going to take everything we deserve my
52:36
dude you know man that's kind of
52:37
mentality
52:38
we were teaching our kids man but all of
52:39
them got it all i'm not like you'll see
52:41
the difference in all fighters
52:43
that fight at superbad academy and any
52:45
other fighter that fights in the world
52:46
they got it
52:47
you know then they got the mentality
52:49
they got the mechanics
52:50
you know what i'm saying it ain't got to
52:53
be the skill part like still you can
52:55
fire fighters more skill that's sharper
52:56
than the product
52:57
but the mentality part you ain't gonna
52:58
be this but you ain't gonna be this
52:59
mentally that's true
53:00
you're gonna be this many people yeah
53:02
hey hey we like to ask
53:04
certain fighters these questions name
53:06
your top fighters
53:07
top five fighters from detroit
53:10
your top five um
53:15
my uh i would say my granddad
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um henry hank um is my it's my number
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one
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um and everybody else that's my number
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one but everybody else can go in
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whatever order you you want them to go
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in um you got tommy
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in my top my top five hit man all day
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that's all day time is always in my top
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five
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you got um joe in my top five
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you've got of course you got joe yeah of
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course
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yeah um you guys
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i ain't seen much of bernard made i like
53:56
how i like his style but i'm gonna go
53:58
james tony my time my top five damn
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and he said michigan right yeah yeah
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detroit but go go michigan
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um and my last one
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i would have to say
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i give i give it to you by the end i'll
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give you okay
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all right hey man um since we talking
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top
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five man who's your your top detroit
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rappers
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oh all right let me let me do it like
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this then
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damn oh yeah welcome to the world
55:04
you wanna do this job you got to get
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ready for that come on super bad
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now let me tell you though let me tell
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you though do i be biased because some
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of these guys are family to me
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not at all or do or do i give it like
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the guy that i would listen to to get me
55:17
on some [ __ ] they're ready to crack
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somebody's head
55:20
like that that yeah that the guy that's
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gonna make
55:23
put you on some [ __ ] to crack somebody's
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head you know like [ __ ]
55:27
like okay the [ __ ] i'm walking out too
55:29
then i gotta listen to the walk out to
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the fight
55:31
yeah exactly who's going to get you
55:34
hyped from detroit tomorrow okay
55:36
402 gonna give me height okay okay
55:39
um iceberg i swear bezos won't get me
55:42
going
55:42
you can go straight hood boy okay
55:56
[Music]
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um you gotta
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i gotta go uh let me see
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i thought you was gonna throw some trick
56:09
in there man
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you know you know what you know what
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trick is is is is a little off the scene
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now you know they're like yeah like for
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me for me to me
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me to even put you in that you know to
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put you in my my my top five
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rapping while you still got to be
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relevant to me you know okay
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cause i would have said something like
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royce you know then i watched would have
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been to my top
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but royce is like he's slowing like this
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and he's slow down you know he's slowing
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down and
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you know man i'm about to disagree with
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you on that tony i'm about to
56:38
listen come on man
56:41
boys still out there killing it
56:57
and i'm getting ready for this goddamn
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uh this goddamn act
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[ __ ] let's go talk to your [ __ ]
57:05
give me your big ass words that you're
57:07
gonna give me will give you my get my
57:08
brain stimulated you know and then like
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like
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but i'm talking about guys that's going
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to get me to that level where
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i'm not no cool and laid back i ain't a
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librarian you know
57:24
i don't need no cooling labor i need
57:26
some [ __ ] that's gonna get me going
57:27
maybe when i'm 40 then we talking about
57:30
some other [ __ ] but
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you know i'm saying i like i like bezo
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um
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soda dude um
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we go uh peas y'all like peasy
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um uh my man p team peasy
57:45
i like um i like e way i don't know
57:49
y'all know these guys but like i like
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eway
57:51
i like uh
57:55
man i i like i mean i really anybody
57:57
that's wrapping that
57:59
snap dog i like all like all of them
58:00
guys man i like i like all the guys like
58:02
most of the guys on there yeah
58:04
oh yeah you know let me let me let me
58:05
see my [ __ ] again i miss somebody
58:07
we got peasy no we got we got beds i
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said bed
58:11
soda dude baby face ray i forgot about
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baby face because baby face be talking
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that [ __ ]
58:16
you like that [ __ ]
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we got guys like that i love that talk
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that [ __ ] like
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um like ceno like e-way
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like like you know all my guys straight
58:29
from the hood man
58:30
my guys uh my guys my guys uh
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uh uh all my fecal guys they are they
58:36
are talking to me
58:37
all my people guys all my east side guys
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yeah so i'm gonna listen i'm gonna
58:41
listen to a little bit of everybody but
58:42
you know what i'm saying like the ones
58:44
that get you going yeah they don't know
58:45
why they're gonna be going
58:46
yeah yeah okay i like that man hey tony
58:50
we got to come to the the super bad
58:53
boxing gym we got to bring bridge
58:55
business there i want to meet some of
58:56
these young up and coming
58:57
future stars that you you've been
58:59
grooming i know i know y'all got a
59:01
strict regimen in that gym
59:03
so when they when they come into that
59:04
ring they're ready to fight man we want
59:06
to come up there one time and just hang
59:08
out with you
59:08
after the fight after your next fight
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hey hey sway man i swear to god man look
59:14
i'm from detroit man and one one thing
59:16
for sure man i
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don't sell me something if you go don't
59:21
don't send me that you don't keep your
59:22
you know
59:23
word on you know man
59:26
it's breaking business business here
59:30
i get it be skeptical they'd be
59:33
skeptical in detroit
59:35
you can't just say [ __ ] to him you got
59:36
to do it yeah yeah man you got it
59:38
and i'm with i swear to god i'm with
59:40
them and you'll be but you'll be my
59:41
brother forever
59:42
you know and then like keeping your word
59:43
is the first part of being the man to me
59:44
that's right they're like
59:46
if you tell me something i'm gonna hold
59:48
you to that i'ma hold this in my
59:49
backpack cause
59:50
i always got that that that trump card
59:52
to pull out when i need you
59:53
check this out check if i said i'll tell
59:55
you i'm gonna do something
59:56
i'm on it i'm gonna do it okay i'm from
59:58
the town from oakland
1:00:00
cut from the sand cloth so until i do it
1:00:03
you talk [ __ ] to me
1:00:08
i'm gonna just hold you i'm gonna hold
1:00:09
you liable as that man that i know you
1:00:10
is
1:00:11
yeah man come on do something you
1:00:19
come to this area and i hear sway in
1:00:22
this area
1:00:23
and sway to hit me up uh me and sway got
1:00:25
problems we got issues
1:00:39
like you you you you urban knowledge for
1:00:41
us and you
1:00:42
you know what i'm doing like like i we
1:00:44
we listen to you all the time you know
1:00:46
what i'm saying
1:00:46
that's love brother you know what i'm
1:00:48
saying all the time and that's
1:00:50
our kid like they they put me at this
1:00:52
[ __ ] some time off swipe
1:00:53
you know so um i had to get the big
1:00:56
it'll be good man it'd be good like and
1:00:58
that's that's the reason i started
1:00:59
boxing in the first place
1:01:00
to kind of meet these kind of people
1:01:01
that i can introduce my people to
1:01:04
you know and that's that's that's that's
1:01:05
the biggest joy that i get out of
1:01:07
out of boxing is is is bridging
1:01:10
relationships
1:01:12
that i can that i can that i can that i
1:01:14
can show
1:01:15
my my kids these these kind of people
1:01:17
like these this this the guy we listen
1:01:19
to every morning
1:01:21
and then like like we got those kind of
1:01:23
events but we got lock-ins and i and i
1:01:24
have
1:01:25
guys like bezo coming in and and just
1:01:28
talk to the kids for them and the guys
1:01:29
they listen to these are people that
1:01:31
they listen to they bang them in the gym
1:01:32
you know what i'm saying like
1:01:33
you let them bang them in the gym you
1:01:35
know the next thing you know we letting
1:01:36
them pull up to the gym
1:01:38
to show them like you know man like this
1:01:40
this is what we do
1:01:41
i got you man i wouldn't have said it if
1:01:43
i was if i didn't mean it brother i
1:01:45
already know what you like
1:01:46
so trust me just just be paid we trying
1:01:48
to figure out how to get out of new york
1:01:50
right now with this whole situation
1:01:54
you know well trust me man we coming we
1:01:56
coming man um
1:01:58
and i appreciate you man i'll lay the
1:01:59
ropes out for you man just go when you
1:02:01
get here
1:02:02
and um i make sure y'all right i'll make
1:02:04
sure y'all right
1:02:05
oh man okay hey man i ain't going to say
1:02:08
good luck
1:02:09
on the 17th it ain't going to be luck
1:02:13
it's preparation it's preparation yeah
1:02:16
great preparation you know and then like
1:02:17
we prepare right you know no excuses at
1:02:19
all you ain't gonna never hear me saying
1:02:20
excuse
1:02:21
us proper playing and prevents poor
1:02:24
performance
1:02:25
let's get god damn right damn right hey
1:02:28
man
1:02:29
we believe in you tony harrison it's
1:02:31
great to have this conversation with you
1:02:33
man thank you for doing
1:02:34
bridge business with us brother your
1:02:35
true champion
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