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CHAKABARS Speaks On The Exploitation of AFRICA, The Truth About Elon Musk, Bill Gates and Big Tech
Aug 9, 2023
Chakabars, an activist and philanthropist, is committed to empowering oppressed communities around the world. He has made remarkable contributions in Africa, Jamaica, and other regions by establishing schools, homes, and medical centers for the African diaspora. In a recent conversation on Sway In The Morning, he raised awareness about the alarming exploitation of cobalt in the Congo by foreign nations, leading to the loss of lives of local miners. Watch the full interview below.
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CHAKABARS Speaks Cobalt Exploitation In The Congo & How The Diaspora Can Support AFRICA
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you don't answer that calling you're
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going to be fighting a spiritual battle
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keep the plots going for me torch amen
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this brother is an angel as far as I'm
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concerned it's a gift to the people to
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the community to the diaspora
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I met him in person I recently told this
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story when I was in Ghana have been
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following this man for quite some time
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just really aware of his work the work
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he's doing in the Congo the work he's
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done in Jamaica
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um work he's been doing all around the
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world and just been wanting to support
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him repost some of the things he posts
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when we see some of the atrocities
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that's happened over in the in the Congo
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uh he's a social entrepreneur if you
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will he's an activist if you will he's
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um
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he's one of the founders of I heart
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Africa
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right if you will get that man a round
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of applause which is
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a charity to promote holistic
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self-sustainable development in Africa
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in its diaspora
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he's an inspiration man I feel like he's
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the type of
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person that kids can aspire to be like
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he's concerned about living beings
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whether it's humans or animals or plants
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or plants you know
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um his presence is divine when he walked
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in the room we all need to feel his
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energy
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ain't nothing but goodness coming out
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his pores have to be everything he eat
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come from the earth he grows it himself
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I love it I seen this man he built
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schools for kids who were without he
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built homes for people who were without
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orphans who were left abandoned he built
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uh safe spaces for them in the middle of
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War war-turned country that the world
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seems to ignore no matter how many
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postings how much information how many
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headlines you see the world tends to
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ignore what happens in the Congo in
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different places in Africa and this man
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has been on his soapbox
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and he does it with so much calmness and
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serenity I know he's at peace I'm glad I
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got a chance to meet this man in person
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in Ghana that was a transformative
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experience for me and we've been keeping
2:05
in touch ever since and just to say hey
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man won't you come up to the show
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and he be able to do it fresh out of
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Thailand please welcome Shaka bars
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to the show
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welcome welcome welcome
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how is everybody wow doing well man I
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want to do this to the citizens
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shock of bars does not have a hit record
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he's not the star of any Blockbuster
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movie
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um he's not a social media influencer
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but he's a very important person that
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you may not know that I want you to know
2:44
um if you're interested in the
2:45
upliftment of humanity this man has
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found a way to exist in this Matrix we
2:52
call society and do it in a very natural
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way give them a call let's find out how
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he did this shock a bars let's start
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with this I'm someone assume that I'm
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someone who doesn't know you right and
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you've been doing all this amazing work
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and helping all of these different
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people from different communities all
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over the world
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how would you explain who are you and
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what is it that you do
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um
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I've gone through many phases now I
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would say I'm in my I would say now I'm
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in my development phase okay
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um because
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um we need to be able to develop the
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society that we want to live in or the
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the society that we're living in in
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order for us to be able to be the
3:35
authors of our own destiny right so
3:38
rather than try to do things where I
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make the things about me which is what a
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lot of people do who have a platform I
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make the things about building community
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and
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um
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I would say uh I'm really just trying to
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pay homage to some of our great uh late
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great ancestors who have been doing this
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work because you don't need to reinvent
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the wheel you know there's already
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people who've been doing this for a long
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time and um I was raised a Rasta but I
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was also raised being rest I was raised
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as a pan-african and um a breakdown What
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A pan-african is for those who don't
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know so it's us everywhere you know like
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wherever the sun shines is us and um we
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have more in common with each other than
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we do
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that sets us apart and what pan-africans
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believe is that it we need to be able to
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lead the world again so that the world
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can have peace again so whether it is
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people in IIT or Brazil whether it's
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people in Ghana Nigeria Ethiopia Congo
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whether it is people in North America or
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Panama Colombia is all of us need to be
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working together and um is us everywhere
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you know whether or not you know you
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have this whole movement which is kind
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of like another divide and conquer thing
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um trying to say that you know we ain't
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like them we ain't African it doesn't
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make any sense if you have afro hair as
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far as I'm concerned you're my brother
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and my sister yeah and um we're all
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catching hell wherever we are around the
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world and it would make sense for us to
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work together so that we can stop
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catching as much hell and we can get
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back to having respect so
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um Marcus Garvey was one of the first
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pan-africanists and also
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interestingly enough Marcus Garvey was
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one of the richest black men that
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existed in North America at the time he
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came from Jamaica but then he had like
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uh he created the
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um Universal negro Improvement un Nia
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Universal negro Improvement Association
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and
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um when he created that he basically
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created a movement across North America
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the Caribbean
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um Europe where we were like well it's
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us everywhere we need to work together
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and then the leaders in Africa actually
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took that as inspiration like the reason
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why there's a a black star in the flag
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of Ghana is because of Marcus garvey's
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black star liner so
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um
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I believe that in order for us to be
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able to have peace and have respect we
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need to do some work and as a
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pan-africanist I believe that we need to
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do do it together so all of the stuff
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that I've been doing yeah for years now
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is just trying to create that uni unity
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and build
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um schools orphanage Hospital
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Agricultural Development projects in
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different places because eventually all
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of these places are gonna be trading
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with each other and communicating with
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each other because it's like if all of
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the resources live in Africa forget
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Africa if all of the resources live in
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the global South if all of the resources
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live where melanated people live then
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why are we broke yeah
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Shaka bars is here
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um you you are
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yeah so much I want to ask you right
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when you talk about the I don't want to
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go to the Divide let's let's go to the
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Congo
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um where you're you're right now you're
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you're pretty primarily based out of the
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Congo would you say that or
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um well I've been in Ghana as well Ghana
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as well predominantly Ghana because
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Ghana is the pan-african center of
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Africa really okay if you look at what
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increment did to set it up everybody's
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going there right now to party but I've
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already built a school there some years
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ago and um I've been speaking with Kyrie
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Lenny Kravitz a few other amazing
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Brothers about building the next the
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future school there so that's really a
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place where you can do whatever you want
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to do because there's peace there but um
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right now the main work that I'm doing
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is actually in Congo like as in the main
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building work the the school in Ghana is
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going to come forward soon I've seen
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postings of you and and you said this to
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but because we were trying to work out
8:06
this time to have shock of bars on the
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show and it kind of didn't feel like it
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was going to happen because of the
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flight and he was coming from out of the
8:13
country and so I suggested hey man maybe
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next time it'll be a lot easier and just
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come up we could do it more relaxed and
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you said to me you know I'm going back
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to the Congo I don't know if there'll be
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a next time
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you know
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um
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and that's why I was like let's make
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sure we make it happen
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I never thought about every day you're
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there your life is on the line right is
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it like that what is a day like when
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you're in that community
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um it's not the whole of Congo okay the
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east of Congo where the East and the
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southeast where all of these minerals
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are coming from for the tech industry
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which is an industry that is only
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creating more and more demand is like
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there is like the Wild Wild West yeah
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right now
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um
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is essentially a dysfunctional police
9:03
state and it is being funded by Foreign
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multinationals and
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as much as you know we have this this
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great idea of
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um what is going on in Rwanda
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uh because of of the marketing around
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that what is going on in the country
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next door in Congo is like stuff I've
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never seen before bro like like
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where I built the houses
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um because we we went into a camp so
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first of all the area that we work in
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there's eight volcanoes right five of
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them are active and um we raised some
9:39
money because there was a volcano
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eruption in
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2021 in May 2021 which displaced 400 000
9:47
people because the volcano erupted the
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lava came down wiped out a bunch of
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people's houses and
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um we said all right cool we're gonna
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help them to build back their houses
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because they lost their houses I can't
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build 400 000 houses right but I was
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like let me build something let me go
10:02
and do something and um
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while I was there
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um I I saw
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huge uh they're called IDP camps
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internally displaced person comes but
10:14
essentially they're just like refugee
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camps right right I saw a huge refugee
10:18
camps and in these refugee camps there's
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no running water there's no sanitation
10:22
people are starving to death right and
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this is in the richest country in the
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world Congo has
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um is estimated 24 trillion dollars of
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mineral wealth in the ground right
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trillion dollars and it's one of the
10:38
only places on Earth that is able to
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have a a replenishing mineral wealth
10:45
because of the way that the tectonic
10:47
plates sit and the way that there's all
10:49
of these minerals always coming up from
10:50
through the volcanoes right and so I'm
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there in this camp and um you know we're
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we're looking and seeing what the major
10:57
Charities are doing when the volcano
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erupted everybody ran across the border
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to Rwanda and left the people right so
11:04
whatever anybody wants to say about
11:06
these Charities are doing good work you
11:07
pay a dollar a month or whatever you pay
11:09
they abandoned the people right so we
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went there and we saw exactly what was
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going on and we said let me let's try
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and build something
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um in these camps there were lots of
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children and children who parents have
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been lost because of the volcano but
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also a bigger problem that the children
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whose parents have been murdered for
11:29
this white man Green Tech energy
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Revolution right so we adopted some of
11:34
those kids and we've built them a
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village and in the village is a very
11:38
beautiful Village we've put artwork of
11:40
Our Heroes on the village and um shout
11:43
outs with a bunch of people who helped
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me to do it
11:45
um Kyrie Irving was a big supporter yeah
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yeah Lenny Kravitz was a big supporter
11:50
so was Cara Delevingne Bella Hadid
11:53
um Kalani a bunch of cool cool people
11:56
Tiffany haddish
11:58
um Maya Kerry Hilson bunch of cool
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people helped me to do that and we've
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done it and so you know I'm going back
12:04
there to to make sure everything is okay
12:06
and we are creating a a sustainable
12:10
investment which will then provide
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funding for the kids to go to school to
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pay for their food and transition them
12:17
out of this kind of welfare situation
12:19
into their own economy but
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and this is a big butt right now there
12:25
is a Green Tech energy Revolution and
12:28
cars in Europe I don't know about North
12:30
America but in Europe they're saying
12:31
they're going to be all
12:33
um green energy cars by
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2035 right
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right now there is uh the demand is
12:41
around 150
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000 tons of cobalt per year
12:46
um coming out of the Congo I got a video
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I can show you where there's a Queue at
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the border and there are so many trucks
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it takes a week for them to get through
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that's how much stuff that they're
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exporting they're exporting that much
12:59
every single day the queue never ends
13:01
right there's so many trucks and the
13:04
reason why is because Congo has this uh
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this high grade Cobalt which is needed
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for all of these Tech this tech industry
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and so when I'm watching like movies
13:14
like Black Panther and I'm seeing the
13:16
vibranium yeah and I'm watching movies
13:18
like Avatar and I'm seeing how people
13:20
love these stories I'm like so why is
13:22
everybody forget about Congo like black
13:23
panther had
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um premiers all around the world and
13:27
didn't have one in Congo yeah and so I
13:29
was confused at that but it seems like
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um Malcolm X said that uh Africa is
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shaped like a gun and Congo is the
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trigger and until we are able to
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organize the the the resources of Congo
13:43
for the African people for the Congolese
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people first and then the African people
13:47
in general we're never going to have any
13:49
money every single other ethnic group in
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the world is in Congo making money and
13:55
exploiting people one of the things that
13:57
that startled me is the way that the
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water is being poisoned so now babies
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are being born with birth defects
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because if you like most modern
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um
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uh green energy cars they they have an
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nmc system a nickel manganese Cobalt
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system right and um if you look at just
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the waste from nickel alone right of
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which Congo also produces
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um every single time that there is um a
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car that is being produced there are 50
14:29
tons of waste from that car that is
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um uh sulfuric acid producing waste
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right
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um if you say if you take a ton of of of
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the waste there's going to be nine
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percent in that
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um in that ton there's going to be nine
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percent of
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um sulfur and sulfur uh when it mixes
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with air and it mixes with water is
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gonna cause
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um uh 300 kilos of uh concentrated
14:57
sulfuric acid right from every single
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ton it takes 50 tons to produce one car
15:03
one battery for one car right and um
15:07
this is now completely destroying the
15:11
Congo completely destroying the water
15:12
completely destroying like bro there's
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places where it used to be jungle and
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now it's desert yeah right and this is
15:20
the problem with with this green energy
15:22
Revolution whether you see
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um
15:24
um you know these musk and Gates and and
15:28
all of these people who who want to
15:30
appear like their
15:33
um
15:33
Pioneers in their industry and their
15:36
innovators Elon Musk okay Elon Musk Bill
15:40
Gates uh uh Bezos all of the the most
15:44
rich you know Europeans that exist right
15:46
now I mean apart from the fact that the
15:48
reason why musk is Rich anyway is
15:49
because his dad acquired half of a
15:52
emerald mine in in Zambia and that's how
15:54
he became a billionaire Africa in Africa
15:57
right
15:58
um when you look at these people they
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are you know they have great marketing
16:02
campaigns and they stand on the stage
16:04
and they say we're going to bring you
16:05
this new technology and it's going to be
16:06
great the problem with capitalism is it
16:08
hides its deficits so all right cool
16:10
you've made you know however many
16:12
billion dollars of profit and you've
16:14
made all of these Tech Innovations Leap
16:16
Forward but you've destroyed a whole
16:19
rainforest yeah so at the same time as
16:21
you destroyed a rainforest you destroy
16:23
the people and
16:25
um where I built the the homes I'm going
16:27
back to what I said originally where I
16:28
built the homes
16:29
that's a that's a mass grave bro like
16:32
six million people died there wow so I'm
16:35
I'm standing on a hill yeah right and
16:37
I'm looking at the the the the the floor
16:39
around me in this bullet casings there's
16:41
bones like I'm standing on that stuff
16:43
and this is also that
16:45
um profit margins can be created and
16:48
this is also that this revolution that
16:51
can be created because the the term
16:53
smartphone was coined in 1996 they
16:56
invaded Congo in 1996 and since then
16:59
there's been a a a a annual increase of
17:03
the need for taking minerals out of
17:05
these places when these people are
17:07
mining this stuff there's no PPE there's
17:10
no protective equipment like they are
17:13
breathing in
17:15
um radon that is causing them cancer
17:17
they're dying from that there's children
17:19
in these mines that are mining this
17:21
stuff as young as four or five years old
17:23
oh my God they're dying in the mines
17:26
like the mines are collapsing uh now
17:29
there's 19 I'd say there's 19 major in a
17:32
province called katanga
17:34
um there's 19 major factories
17:37
um well same factories mines there's 19
17:39
major mines 15 of them are owned by the
17:41
Chinese but how did the Chinese get the
17:43
mines because they made uh corrupt
17:46
contracts with the government and the
17:49
government and all of this stuff is
17:51
being fueled by the USA is being fueled
17:53
by the UK so anytime anybody wants to
17:56
say oh that's over there I don't really
17:57
get any of that stuff let's just look at
17:59
1960 after you know from 1885 to 1908
18:05
Leopold ruled the Congress oh my God
18:07
right from 1908 to 1960
18:10
um the Belgian government ruled the
18:12
Congo 1960 La Mumba came in who was
18:14
mentored by Kwame and kruma 1961 he was
18:17
out and he was murdered and then a
18:19
dictator was installed in his place for
18:21
30 years right and the USA paid a
18:24
hundred thousand dollars which uh is
18:27
around a million dollars in today's
18:29
money to have the leader of Congo
18:31
murdered why because everybody's getting
18:34
hype about this um you heard this
18:36
Oppenheimer movie right right right
18:38
there there is no all of these rocks I'm
18:41
telling you about Kobo
18:42
um kotan wolframite tungsten they're all
18:45
locked in together and in there is
18:47
uranium and in there is plutonium as
18:49
well so the only reason why America was
18:53
able to have a nuclear bomb is because
18:55
they were able to keep getting minerals
18:57
out of Congo these minerals don't come
18:58
from anywhere else so if you're talking
19:00
about nuclear Powers nuclear superpowers
19:02
then you're talking about minerals from
19:04
Congo so All Leads back to this heart
19:06
chakra of Africa and that's why I called
19:08
my organization
19:10
Africa because it's the same thing wow
19:13
uh Shaka bars is here this is so
19:16
informative I want to come back I want
19:18
to play some music I want
19:21
how can people in America help help I
19:25
want to talk about that like it just
19:26
when you hear the stories if you're not
19:28
well versed if you're not if you haven't
19:30
been following us people listening right
19:31
now I'm shocked and appalled yeah but
19:34
also they probably want to help and get
19:36
involved in any way they could let's
19:38
talk about that when we come back all
19:39
right Chaka bar to say if y'all want to
19:41
follow him follow him at Shaka bars on
19:44
Instagram
19:46
c-h-a-k-a-b-a-r-s way in the morning
19:48
Shay from five we have Chaka bars here
19:49
Shockers activists social entrepreneur
19:53
developed a series of businesses
19:55
including fruits and roots
19:59
um
20:01
he's doing powerful work
20:03
um on behalf of the diaspora he's gone
20:06
to various places build Education
20:08
Centers built community centers built
20:11
food centers you know these are the
20:14
steps we have to take anyway as a people
20:17
to create our own Nations our own
20:19
foundations it's about building and
20:21
owning our own institutions uh that way
20:24
we'll be able to properly Supply our
20:26
people with the necessities of life and
20:28
this is what he's doing but he's not
20:31
able to get a whole lot of it's been
20:33
some amazing people that has helped that
20:34
have helped but Heather he hasn't been
20:37
able to talk about this on a whole lot
20:38
of times that's something right isn't
20:40
that something yeah and uh so we're
20:42
talking about just what's taking place
20:44
in the Congo the mining the deaths the
20:47
the raping the pillage of the land
20:50
um of the continent of Africa how many
20:53
people have their hands their Stakes
20:55
their investments in Africa but aren't
20:57
paying back Africa you know that mining
21:00
in the Congo you say they mine up to
21:03
3.4 metric million metric tons or it's
21:07
150
21:09
000 tons a year a year right a 24
21:12
trillion dollars
21:14
uh worth the minerals leave that
21:16
continent and how much of that money
21:19
gets paid back to the local community
21:22
um so the way that the system is working
21:25
is
21:26
for each ton of cobalt mind it gets
21:29
around uh is is worth around
21:33
um
21:34
seventy thousand dollars for each tone
21:36
and the the local people are paid
21:41
um maybe one percent of that if that
21:46
um for that and then it leaves once it
21:49
leaves Once you turn once you take this
21:51
product and you turn it into a phone
21:53
you've now increased the the value of it
21:56
by you know ten thousand right and um
22:01
that's the problem with with what goes
22:04
on in Africa is there's not as much
22:05
manufacturing and we are we are seen as
22:10
a bread basket of resources where people
22:12
take raw materials
22:14
um and we don't own a lot of the the raw
22:17
materials that are leaving then those
22:19
raw materials are taken to the second
22:21
stage of the secondary economy which is
22:24
manufacturing and then they're taken to
22:26
the tertiary economy which is goods and
22:28
services by the time it gets to goods
22:30
and services it's worth so much more
22:32
than the original thing that was mined
22:36
by the people and um this is things that
22:40
need to stop or things that need to
22:41
change personally the reason why I even
22:43
started this organization was so that I
22:46
could create
22:48
um group economics so that I could get
22:50
the diaspora because if you look at like
22:53
China for instance right yeah China's
22:55
developed very very rapidly and you can
22:56
see where China is on the global stage
22:58
China's developed very very rapidly but
23:01
between 1970 and 1990.
23:04
uh 25 billion was sent to China from its
23:07
diaspora right and then 25 billion was
23:10
used in China to develop China so 50 of
23:14
the energy that developed China to where
23:16
it is now came from the diaspora yeah
23:18
right
23:19
um they're going into Africa they're
23:21
going into everywhere else and they're
23:22
starting businesses like this you know
23:24
there's Chinese stores all over New York
23:25
they're sending money back to China bro
23:27
right and it's like why is it that we
23:30
continue to disassociate ourselves from
23:33
Africa when actually we should be
23:34
developing Africa we should be having
23:36
our own minds with protective equipment
23:39
with um
23:41
pensions with health care with schools
23:44
etc etc and we should be having our own
23:45
factories manufacturing this stuff so
23:48
that the the rest of the world has to
23:49
engage with us in respect because this
23:52
whole free market thing is a lie it
23:54
doesn't exist how is it a free market if
23:56
it's a slave market that's dictated by
23:58
outside of Africa there you go soccer
24:00
bars
24:01
um I'm loving this conversation I know
24:04
you brought gifts and I want to let
24:05
Tracy and Heather uh jump in too what
24:07
did you bring me here brother
24:09
um all right so I've worked with this
24:10
this is what we smell uh it's like a
24:12
menthol compound it was what we smell
24:14
when we're doing boxing in Thailand
24:17
um
24:17
yeah I thought you know you're here in
24:20
New York like you need to I need to snap
24:22
out of it clear yeah plus I'll be boxing
24:24
so yeah right you're gonna give some of
24:26
the challenge but Terence Crawford
24:27
coming here today I might offer him
24:29
something he's coming he's coming today
24:31
oh nice yeah yeah it's a great book yeah
24:33
um CMOS great for you yes CMOS cabinet
24:37
capsules thank you Tracy for helping me
24:39
okay
24:51
is this the same mango tree that you
24:54
when I was in Ghana you brought me that
24:56
mango no no different one remember I
24:58
remember that one but I was eating the
24:59
mango in front of everybody I was
25:01
mangled out he was in the venue eating
25:03
the mango
25:04
messy man and um this book is by Shake
25:08
entity up and it's called pre-colonial
25:09
black Africa and it basically gives you
25:12
an idea because the thing is is where
25:14
Africa is now in the marketing that's
25:16
been done that's not been done by
25:17
Africans but it's been done by aliens to
25:20
Africa about Africa tells us a story of
25:23
Despair a story of poverty a story of no
25:27
hope and when you read books like this
25:29
you get to see what was going on before
25:31
the colonizers came in so it gives you
25:34
an idea of what could be possible
25:35
because
25:36
like
25:38
a late great leader Dr Lila or Layla
25:43
Africa Dr Africa who's one of the one of
25:45
the greatest
25:46
um uh authors in holistic health he said
25:50
we weren't watching what white folk was
25:53
doing when we were building pyramids so
25:54
why are we still watching what they're
25:55
doing now and that makes me think well
25:57
actually we are enough you know yeah so
26:00
this book shows you what was going on
26:02
before so that you can at least have
26:04
some hope because I don't want to come
26:05
here with all despair you know no no no
26:07
this is amazing man thank you man Chaka
26:09
bars just bought me gifts you see the
26:12
look at Kalani my nephew over there was
26:13
like can I get something uh
26:18
um yeah I do have a question and it's uh
26:20
I'm gonna touch on partly some of the
26:22
stuff that we were talking about outside
26:23
but we hear a lot about like the the
26:26
pillaging and the robbery of Africa but
26:28
um right now I would say uh Africa's On
26:31
The Rise and they're uh in terms of like
26:34
Revolution and I for people that were
26:36
unaware I wanted to ask you about uh
26:38
some of the things that are going on in
26:40
Africa like in South Africa or Niger and
26:42
Burkina Faso um and Mali
26:45
um
26:48
a lot is going on right now and um it is
26:51
great that we have phones that we can
26:52
witness what is going on right now
26:55
um because before when revolutions were
26:57
happening in Africa people weren't able
27:00
to see it the way that they're able to
27:01
see it now and that's what you are you
27:04
familiar with something called
27:05
cointelpro yeah coin So Pro okay so the
27:08
main reasons why cointel pro was started
27:11
was to stop the rise of a black nation
27:13
in North America because you guys are
27:15
enough to run the country if you was
27:17
organized what is cointelpro cointelpro
27:20
was started by Jay gehuva who is the
27:22
light skin sellout of the FBI right and
27:26
um coin sale pro has essentially started
27:27
to destroy Marcus Garvey yeah and they
27:29
destroyed him
27:31
um
27:32
uh it was then used to try to destroy uh
27:36
revolutionary leaders like Martin Luther
27:37
King Malcolm X and um The Move
27:41
Organization the Black Panthers etc etc
27:43
and the the main three uh agendas for
27:49
um or the main three objectives for uh
27:52
the cointel pro
27:54
um government funded paid by taxes
27:57
um uh uh initiative was to stop the rise
28:00
of a black nation in North America it
28:03
was to stop the rise of a black Messiah
28:04
that's why they killed Malcolm they
28:06
killed Martin Etc and it was also to
28:09
stop the um the the communication
28:12
between black Americans and black
28:15
Africans because of how much money that
28:17
the US or how much gold the USA
28:18
government was taking out of South
28:20
Africa right and so
28:22
um what I see now happening in in Africa
28:27
is uh it it seemingly revolutionary and
28:32
anything that you know all uh or
28:35
revolution is is change
28:37
um anything that is change is Revolution
28:39
but the problem a lot of the time with
28:42
these um these revolutions is they
28:46
become pseudo-revolutions once the
28:48
people who overthrow the government then
28:50
become the government because they don't
28:52
know how to run a country right so
28:54
people who are soldiers shouldn't
28:57
usually yeah go and take out the
28:59
colonial rulership right but then you
29:02
are not going to be able to be the
29:03
leader of that country because you
29:04
haven't studied economics you haven't
29:06
studied a bunch of things that allows
29:08
you to be able to run a country so
29:11
what is going on
29:13
um is the rise I think of of a
29:15
collective Consciousness where it's like
29:17
no we've had enough now and we've seen
29:19
enough so that we can we know we can do
29:20
for ourselves but also it needs at the
29:23
time that these happen and there's great
29:25
leaders in Africa who are well versed in
29:29
and specialized in uh economics in
29:32
Technologies in agriculture Etc they're
29:35
the people that these people who are
29:37
overthrowing these colonial governments
29:39
need to then hand the mantle to and say
29:41
yo we did our work with the Army if you
29:44
need us we're here you run the country
29:45
but what's happening in Nigeria as far
29:49
as I'm aware
29:50
um is they're trying to get rid of
29:51
French Colonial rulership at the same
29:54
time as they're trying to get rid of
29:55
French Colonial rulership in Nigeria
29:57
this same France that said to
30:00
um Russia that they were bad for uh
30:04
invading Ukraine is the same France
30:07
who's ready to re-invade and try and
30:10
take over Indonesia for the uranium and
30:13
it's just like the hypocrisy is crazy
30:15
2023. in 2023 they're literally saying
30:18
we are ready to reinvade uh uh Nigeria
30:21
because we want uranium I think
30:23
um that the world is watching what is
30:26
happening and I would hope that there is
30:29
some leadership to create a United State
30:32
of Africa right if there's a United
30:34
State of America right
30:37
um and we know that America doesn't have
30:39
us anywhere near as many resources as
30:42
Africa there's 1.2 billion people in
30:44
Africa and there needs to be United
30:46
States of Africa and and that is what
30:49
all of our leaders who have come before
30:52
us have said they need the United States
30:54
of Africa and anybody who is not talking
30:56
about that they're useless forget them
30:58
because they're not talking about global
31:00
power for black people yeah soccer bars
31:02
Chaka bars
31:04
um
31:05
how can people find out more what
31:08
platforms should they go to how can they
31:10
invest how can they be a part of this
31:12
what can they do
31:14
um so I have a 501c3 I didn't come here
31:17
to ask for money but I have a 501c3 so
31:19
people whoever is about to do their
31:22
taxes next year hit me up because I can
31:25
give you a tax receipt give me the money
31:26
and I'll go and do some good stuff with
31:28
it rather than paying taxes that are
31:31
going to pay for bombs to blow up little
31:32
kids right or pay for all of the stuff
31:35
that we know that that happens there's
31:37
no need to do that when there is a
31:39
system of CSR and there is a system of
31:42
Charity that can be done but at the same
31:44
time I think
31:46
um I'm not I'm not the big I am I know
31:49
that I'm a I'm a piece in this human
31:52
story and um I will come back from Congo
31:56
I'll be fine yeah you'll be fine I will
31:58
come back from Congo and I'll come back
32:00
to you with with more information as to
32:02
how people can get involved uh you can
32:04
follow me on Instagram uh follow my
32:07
charity it's called Iha Africa we're
32:09
about to drop
32:10
um an nft
32:12
um and if you look like on my t-shirt
32:14
like the T-shirt too this is Kuba art
32:17
and this Kuba R is the reason why
32:19
Versace Gucci and all of the Louis V
32:22
exist this is Kuba kivu and Congolese ah
32:25
right with the geometric shapes and um
32:28
this is actually one of the children
32:29
that we look after so as the children
32:31
that are going to be leading the way in
32:34
that we are
32:35
um we are trying our very best to try
32:38
and build as many houses as possible we
32:39
built 24 homes we want to build a
32:42
hundred homes in total but I think
32:44
actually if anybody is out there
32:46
watching this and thinks oh how can I
32:48
get involved hit me up I'm available and
32:51
um the revolution needs funding and we
32:53
need to build our own schools that make
32:56
our children know what's really up and
32:59
then allow them to run the world because
33:01
until uh black women and until uh black
33:06
African children are able to take
33:10
control of
33:11
of the leadership of the world again the
33:13
world is going to go off a cliff ever
33:15
since the different groups of of people
33:17
have got leadership of the world there's
33:19
been no ethicality there's no been no
33:22
ecology they don't care about the nature
33:23
there's been no sustainability there's
33:25
been none of that and so we want to
33:27
raise the next generation of children
33:28
that's why we take care of children
33:29
because we want these children to lead
33:31
the world as they should Shaka bars love
33:34
you brother love the mission you own I
33:36
love the work you do y'all follow him at
33:38
shock abar
33:40
c-h-a-k-a-b-a-r-s we have more
33:42
conversations to have yes indeed we can
33:44
have them up here
33:47
you drop that you know that artwork yeah
33:49
a lot of the biggest brands in the world
33:51
pretty much stole their designs from
33:54
Africa
33:56
and still do it it's never stopped the
33:58
thing is is like the interesting thing
34:00
about what people think about
34:03
um
34:03
slavery and colonialism they think it's
34:06
like some old thing right
34:08
neocolonialism is happening right now in
34:10
Africa and is the reason why Africans
34:12
are not able to be the wealthiest people
34:15
in the world and as soon as we start to
34:17
organize our our resources
34:20
well I hope you're going to come to the
34:22
Black Star Line
34:23
um Festival in Jamaica in January I'm a
34:25
part of it now all right all right good
34:27
I hope so too I I I I will be organizing
34:32
um the pan-african stuff okay like I did
34:34
the conferencing and I'll be organizing
34:36
um that stuff and um we just need to
34:39
start moving together all of these uh
34:42
entertainers all of these basketball
34:44
players all of these business people who
34:47
are all trying to carve out their piece
34:50
of the American Corona the same for the
34:52
people in Europe who are black the same
34:54
for the people in Brazil who are black
34:56
we need to start working together like
34:58
Malcolm X was trying to uh establish the
35:01
organization of Afro-American uni there
35:04
needs to be that because if you're the
35:06
government of Nigeria or you're the
35:07
government of Niger right who do you hit
35:10
up when you say hey I want to speak to
35:13
Black Americans do you hear up which
35:14
group do you hit is there an
35:16
organization that everybody is
35:18
underneath right everybody's trying into
35:20
work so hard to get reparations which is
35:24
Honorable and I hope that the people get
35:26
the reparations but while all of that is
35:28
going on we can just like own and run
35:30
Minds in in Africa building with
35:33
indigenous people and making sure that
35:35
they are getting money and we are
35:37
getting money and we don't need to beg
35:39
for if if all right I'm gonna finish
35:42
with one of one of my my most
35:45
um
35:46
one of my most uh one one of the quotes
35:49
that I draw the most inspiration from is
35:51
by an author called friends Fanon and
35:54
Friends Fanon was a psychologist and an
35:56
author who wrote um a book called The
35:59
Wretched of the Earth the wretch of the
36:00
Earth was turned into a movie called
36:02
concern and violence which
36:04
um Auntie Lauren Hill narrated a very
36:06
good movie if you don't you're not
36:08
interested in reading books just watch
36:09
concerning violence because it looks at
36:10
what uh the decolonization process of
36:13
Africa was and what he says is that the
36:15
benefits of power become obsolete if you
36:18
have to ask and that is what we're doing
36:20
again and again hands up don't shoot
36:23
please don't kill us right
36:25
I saw that Montgomery that Montgomery
36:28
yeah I saw that that's that's that's
36:30
what we need to do and it's like Malcolm
36:32
said is that we need to stop singing and
36:33
start swinging okay because we are the
36:35
fiercest warriors on the earth and um I
36:39
think we need to stop asking and we just
36:41
need to start taking Shaka bars man I
36:43
want to thank you for coming today I
36:45
appreciate you brother I didn't know
36:46
this turned into something really Divine
36:48
and I hope folks really enjoyed this
36:50
conversation we're gonna post it on
36:51
suede's Universe on our YouTube channel
36:53
and you'll be able to see it on his
36:54
platforms as well as shock abar
36:58
c-h-a-k-a-b-a-r-s thank you for my gifts
37:01
every time and thank you for gifting us
37:03
with your presence let me come back when
37:05
I come back absolutely come on back man
37:07
we got some stuff to do all right okay
37:09
you drop bars in a different way and and
37:12
I just want to say this for everybody
37:14
out there watching sway has the answers
37:15
oh wow
37:18
that went all the way over to Ghana
37:20
right that's right has the answers I
37:23
have some answers too but sway has the
37:24
answer so listen to sway thank you
37:26
brother I appreciate you okay
37:29
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