Bonsu Thompson on Life After Death Series, Andre 3000, Jack Harlow & more. Part 1
May 15, 2023
Hip-hop has long been admired for its ability to draw listeners into a world that encompasses not only music, but the stories and experiences of those creating it. Few artists have managed to achieve the level of iconic status equivalent to the late Notorious B.I.G. - and his final album, Life After Death, left an undeniable impact on the genre. Recently, writer, producer, and Brooklynite Bonsu Thompson took on the task of further exploring the legacy of this album and its creator with his series, Iconic Records Season 1: Life After Death. Hosted by Angie Martinez, Thompson's series delves into the stories behind this masterpiece, bringing together perspectives from those closest to Biggie during the final 18 months of his life.
With Bonsu Thompson's versatile background that extends from journalism to television production and digital media, it comes as no surprise that Iconic Records hits all the right spots. Delivering raw and introspective analysis on the landmark album, the series invites a host of guests to contribute their personal accounts of not only Christopher "Biggie" Wallace's artistic process but the ruthless New York rap scene that helped shape life on the East Coast during its golden era.
Over the course of the series, Angie Martinez spends five nights in conversation with some of the closest figures in Biggie's life, each sharing the untold stories that changed hip-hop forever. They recount the rise of the Notorious B.I.G., the East-West rivalry that nearly sparked conflicts, and the fallout following the rapper's tragic death, which only cemented his legacy.
What sets Iconic Records apart from other documentaries exploring hip-hop lore is Bonsu Thompson's strong influence. Behind the scenes, Thompson was hands-on and allowed guests to open up and speak honestly, providing listeners a rare glimpse into the life of hip-hop's biggest names. With a combination of knowledge and expertise, he was able to curate a series that caters to the educated fan wanting an in-depth look at the genre's evolution.
Moreover, the Iconic Records Season 1: Life After Death series is more than just insights into Biggie's life. It also illuminates the unique perspectives of his peers, each giving voice to the trials and tribulations of the times. Thompson brings fresh insight into the iconic moments of the East Coast rap scene, resulting in an extraordinary behind-the-scenes portrayal of the music industry, which captures the momentous energy of a transformative moment in the genre.
Bonsu Thompson's incredibly detailed storytelling skills capture the essence of Biggie's Life After Death, highlighting his artistry and the East Coast rap scene at large. While there are several documentaries devoted to the rapper, Iconic Records Season 1: Life After Death stands out in its ability to bring listeners into the world of Christopher Wallace, showcasing the brilliance of his work alongside the inspiration behind it. Thompson has created a platform for sharing history and culture, allowing listeners to learn something new about icons they thought they knew well. Take the time to listen to Iconic Records Season 1: Life After Death on the Roku Channel, or any other platform, and immerse yourself in the world of Biggie.
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wow man that's from a clip from wmx
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presents that's actually the trailer
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iconic record season one life after
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death hosted by Angie Martinez
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but she didn't do it alone
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she did not do it alone this is to me
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one of the most important series uh
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that's come out of this whole hip-hop 50
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celebration that we've been having
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because of some of the Architects that's
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behind it
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writer producer uh on their personality
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podcaster historian archivist Guru griot
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goat
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I said it goat
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this man is sit down with the likes of
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Chadwick Boseman Clyde Davis Jay-Z just
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to name a few
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okay
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uh double XL magazine mtv2 Slam Magazine
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Chief editor-in-chief of the source just
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to name a few
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Tracy G that's right cold written
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award-winning films 2018 Manhattan Film
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Festival winner for story Ave just to
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name a few
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can't stop won't stop a bad boy story
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just to name a few
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and his work keeps on growing man I'm
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proud to have this brother here I
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consider him a brother and and I
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definitely consider him a brother and
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what we do here for the culture welcome
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him back to the show The One and Only
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Bond Sue Thompson
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just to name a few it can't be the goat
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if the goat's over here talking you know
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there's enough room in the pastors for
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more than one goal it's a lot of ghosts
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eating right now there's enough room in
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the pasture for one more than one goat
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all right
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um bansu welcome welcome man here this
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morning bro congratulations absolutely
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man you might think you Tracy everybody
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yeah I see the heart what is that the
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heart to earn merch absolutely
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absolutely come on man if you don't know
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man this is probably in my opinion one
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of the most interesting podcasts in the
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game right now is hard to earn it's
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we're still a baby man but you know
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we're here I mean it's a so hard to earn
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is uh my podcast with my partner Torrey
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um we're the only
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podcast dedicated to reviewing r b and
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rap albums track by track top to bottom
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having conversations about every song we
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celebrate
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um you know uh Classic Albums on their
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pivotal anniversaries where the 20th uh
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25 30 on
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um you know and also you know we discuss
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current music you know whether that's
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Jack Hollow or Freddie Gibbs you know
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but we discuss these albums break them
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down have conversations between every
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song we give context of Classic Albums I
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mean and you know again we're a baby
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podcast but you know this we're the only
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podcast doing it dedicated to and I'll
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say it black music you know there you go
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get a round of applause you can say it
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um you brought up Jack Harlow
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who said he's the hardest white boy
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rapping since Eminem what is your
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opinion on that
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I disagree with that okay he doesn't
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even rap hard to me he's a good rapper
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this funny thing is Jack Carlos actually
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our next episode um we have to record
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this week um unless Ty are you around Ty
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are you going you in the Derby Derby two
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or what the hell you're in New York Ty
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Jesus from everybody
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Jet Set a tie Jesus Christ
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um but yeah Jack Hall's the um he's the
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next episode but um he doesn't I think
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he's a good rapper I wouldn't say he's
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the hardest you know
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um yeah I mean as far as like white the
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funny thing is so I will one of my
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previous episodes was we um we reviewed
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the
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the uh who's the Man soundtrack right on
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the 30th anniversary and we were talking
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about how much we loved Everlast right
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and I was like yo Everlast God of course
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he got a bad rap because you know it's
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it's it's early 90s and you know we
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would definitely we had we were
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traumatized by Vanilla Ice and over that
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but I'm like yo Everlast was a hard body
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like he had legit ROMs he had the great
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voice he had this beat selection was
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tough I feel like you know he was
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short-lived so you know I'm not a you
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know I'm very much a hip-hop curator and
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I'm very much a gatekeeper and ever
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since but like I never had a problem
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with Everlast you know so I've been
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laughing so it's very dope went to
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Whitey Ford yeah yeah I mean he
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definitely transitions people stop
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seeing him the same way oh yeah he was
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different absolutely I I got off the
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trade also okay I think also being a
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curator bonsu you help us to understand
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the definition from a lot of words that
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we just throw around a lot right so in
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this instance what would you define what
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are the defining differences between
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good and hard
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um well I mean they're not synonymous I
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mean you could be hard and bad you could
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be hard and good
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um am I but we pausing
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man I don't remember to do that but
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uh no I mean so what I'm saying like in
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his approach like I think Jack Hollow is
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a good rapper um I think you know a lot
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of the I don't know if it's just like
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him just being an emcee and like I think
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it's like a prerequisite for MCS just
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talk about them being the greatest or
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the best you know I think he's still
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growing as an artist but he can
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definitely rap but um it's still to me
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is still you know still see me
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one-on-one you know it's still very
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contemporary it's very Yacht Rock rap to
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me yeah
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[Laughter]
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okay I appreciate it you know and I [ __ ]
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with y'all you know I'm a BG's you know
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uh uh um
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I love them all you like that blue eye
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soul I I love it but you know but I'm
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just saying like you know there's
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there's Michael McDonald and then
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there's you know Luther Luther James you
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know what I'm saying there's a
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difference there okay I like that Bon
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Sue Thompson this year we're going to
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talk about iconic record season one life
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after death hosted by Angie Martinez if
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you had to review your favorite
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interview you've done who would it be
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wow ever
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one of them it's hard to do everything
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it's a
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straight 3000 Andre 3 000. it's a
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toss-up it would say it would either be
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Dre it flip-flops but either Dre 3000 or
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Jay-Z but I've interviewed Jay-Z more
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I think I've been to Jay-Z more than
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anybody else actually yeah I don't think
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anybody's interview Jay-Z both rare
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interviews to snag too so that's crazy
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that you got both you know and that's
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why I was going with with Stacks because
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I'm like it's Dax is you know he's just
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like chasing a unicorn right yeah I
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think I've interviewed Stacks two or
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three times
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um and Jay-Z more than that but yes but
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just because the conversation we had
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like I interviewed Three Stacks right
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before the
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um love below album okay and I mean I'm
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a massive massive Outcast fan like you
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know used to kick it with big boy big
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boys the one who like really introduced
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me to like Atlanta which is a unfair way
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to introduce Atlanta because I got
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addicted but um but like yeah like I was
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nervous because I'm like we know Dre
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from quemini and I mean I've been
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rocking with him since Southern
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playalistic right and you know hey yeah
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comes out and I'm nervous like yo is he
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is he is he doing the Whitey Ford thing
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yeah is he gonna go to the other side is
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he going to survive you know I'm
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concerned for my brother you know and
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then um we're getting like his I pull up
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he'd be getting his Rover we just drive
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around Atlanta and we just have like the
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most in-depth conversation about
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everything from why he doesn't believe
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in monogamy to Q-tip being his favorite
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art I mean like we got into almost an
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argument because he was saying Q-tip was
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his favorite rapper and I'm like do you
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listen to yourself and you argued him
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over tip because no because yeah cause
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I'm like you're better than Q-tip like
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like how could you be your favorite
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rapper when you could wrap circles
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around Q-tip I didn't understand what
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was his response he started quoting
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tropical Quest vines that still and I
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started calling okay slots back to him
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like but you're alive is better like
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we're gonna do returning to gangster
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compare that to suck a [ __ ] love them
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both but lyrically [ __ ] [ __ ] was
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dope though suck a [ __ ] was fire that's
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my that's probably one of my favorite
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Q-tip records okay but I'm saying but
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they're still this is for double XL this
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was 2000 and well right before this uh
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love below album so I mean yeah 2004 but
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then second [ __ ] came out what year
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second [ __ ] was 93 yeah so I mean damn
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how you arguing that yeah
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because I'm like 26 years old okay all
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right all right all right all right all
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right I'm also sitting with my favorite
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rappers how could you how could you talk
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about anybody else when you are I'm
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looking at him he's a unicorn like do
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you hate yourself like you know what was
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the ROM after um at the end of stank oh
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yeah with the with the Untitled joint
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yeah
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you know like that's I'm like Q-tip
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could never do that but again whatever
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you know I was also more Fife than Q-tip
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anyway but that's another conversation
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for another day okay all right all right
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I think it's interesting that you the
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argument that you had with him about
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himself do you think it was the reason
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why he didn't want to say anything
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because does he not see himself the way
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that we see no I mean if you know Andre
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he's wild insecure yeah like
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surprisingly like when you hear him and
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you hear his ability right and this we
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always get people we always put people
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in these boxes right we we think that
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how we perceive them or what we how
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we've consumed them is their everything
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like like Eddie Murphy is a brilliant
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person on stage like he's a complete
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weirdo off of it you know what I'm
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saying like Richard Pryor was amazing on
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stage he was funny on film he's a whole
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train wreck outside of it you know like
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so I think we put people in these boxes
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because of what we take that's great
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about them but there's a whole other
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Robin Williams was brilliant but like he
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was going through it Philip Seymour
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Hoffman was going through it and I mean
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you know so I think I only saw his
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ability as opposed to who this person
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was and he was an only child super shy
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and secure doubted himself he also had
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like I forget about the term is but he
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has like um like social anxiety which is
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insane to be a pop star you know he's a
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Grammy winner and you have social
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anxiety that's a lot to deal with so of
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course me again young journalists young
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Three Stacks fan I'm not aware of all
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this when I'm having this conversation
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about Q-tip and three stacks how has
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your um interviewing skills evolved from
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when you were in your 20s until now
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I would think I'd get better every year
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although there's certain like approaches
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yeah I don't used to do that you no
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longer do
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um no I think I'm just I'm just a better
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listener now and I can hear the rhythms
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of a conversation better you know it's
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just that's just experience but I know
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I've always I never wanted to interview
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people my job was to make people feel
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like they're in a conversation and in
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order to make people feel like they're
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in a conversation you have to make them
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comfortable in order to make them
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comfortable you have to come to the
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table extremely researched and and
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nuanced and make them feel like this is
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something that they're discussing that's
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personal to them and not the regular
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because you know we you know we have we
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have to go through we have to be a part
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of press schedule sometimes right so you
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could be the 10th interview that day you
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got to make yourself stand out it's
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almost like speed dating right how you
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gonna stand out it's a room full of fly
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dudes how you gonna make her feel
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impressed well you you have a you have a
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method that you use obviously because
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you've done so well at it Anthony from
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Yonkers want to ask you a question just
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about this very topic Anthony welcome to
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the show what up Aunt what's up
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what's your question
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the honor to speak to you bangsu um as a
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rising journalist I want to ask what
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does it take to build trust from the
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very beginning because that's one
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challenge I'm facing right now as a
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journalist
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trust from the with the subject you're
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saying
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like trust with people you want to have
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future interviews with
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oh I mean again I would go back to
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research the more you know
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um the more people feel like you are a
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trusted Source you've done your homework
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they're safe with their story in your
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hands
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um they're comfortable enough to give
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you you know sometimes when people are
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comfortable and if you're comfortable
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like you get the gold and the gold are
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you know nuggets or pizza information
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that you never anticipated getting you
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get that because when people are
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comfortable they just talk you know and
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they actually people want to be heard I
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mean you could be a five times platinum
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artist you want to be heard so if
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there's something about your life about
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your craft about your process that
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hasn't been explored um or even you know
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uh even um kind of even if like um
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thrown out there by the artists you know
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if you give them that that that that
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that plate that comfortable bed to kind
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of like put their feet up they'll give
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it up to you you know so I mean that's
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what I think the trust comes from like
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you know but that also comes with I'm
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not just a person trying to get a check
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I'm not here as a job I'm actually here
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invested in you as a person as an artist
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um you know as a Craftsman I thank you
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for your question Anthony bonsu Thompson
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is here we're talking wmx presents
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iconic record season one life after
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death posted by Angie Martinez new
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episodes drop every Saturday 8 P.M you
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can watch for free on channel 1137 on
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the Roku Channel also on YouTube on
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YouTube every Monday on YouTube yeah
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actually episode two drops
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um you know I forget how
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I played hypnotized uh from that album
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um obviously I had a very intimate
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connection with Notorious B.I.G I know
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this yes it's uh it runs deep man it
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runs back in the days of partying
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[ __ ] and dreams and little singles
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were dropping in early 90s early 90s and
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I was in the bay receiving all this
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music I played dreams off of DJ Clue
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mixtape and then I would take all his
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drops off and put my own drops on so
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people thought I had it first and Cali I
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said it clue but I said it black people
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gonna make a way we made a way you know
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but when big first came to Northern
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California it was my promotion company
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StreetWise that took him and Craig Mack
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around and so my brother uh T Cal was
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very instrumental in Taken big to all
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the little little hot spots in the Bay
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Area at that time the acorns which was
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like projects a six nine field taken to
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San Francisco all these different place
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hundred points
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um and our promotion company too we want
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to um radio station but we used to do a
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club called the jungle and so we would
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bring action to town that didn't have
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enough exposure big was one of those
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acts really and so we got old school
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classic footage of big performing in San
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Francisco for the first time so it was
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you that got big out of trouble with E40
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that wasn't me
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I know what
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they would I could have been
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instrumental in that that part of it but
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um by the time this album came out
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almost jumped to life after death you
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know there was a whole lot of tension in
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it yeah man um with the East Coast
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so-called East Coast West Coast uh beef
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that really cold the so-called wasn't
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really to get a manufactured beef and so
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I got a chance to talk to Big a few days
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before his his untimely death but when
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they hypnotized yeah we did the
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interview and we got some this footage
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all over the Internet about it
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um but when hypnotized came out
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now hypnotize was produced by DDOT D dot
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and um I think um
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what's the other guy's name Ron yes Ron
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Lawrence yes yes and then I'm over I
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think this is I think I pronounce this
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yes and then puff you see puff name on
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it too of course for that song uh
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hypnotized when it came out had a very
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West Coast sound to it to me it hit it I
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thought it hit both I thought it was a
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very smart song and I mean again be
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completely honest I mean massive biggie
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fan he's my favorite rapper of all time
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I didn't love hypnotized when it came
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out yeah you didn't because you were
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easy
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yeah
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I had the unreleased version of my
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downfall like how could I love it okay
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you know I thought it was like a olive
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branch almost huh well I mean with the
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way to sound sonically what it sounded
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like it was like hey hey I think that
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was more of a puff than just trying to
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make a you know a Nationwide commercial
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single I mean the Island Branch was so
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blatant which was going back to Cali
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yeah that was the Olive Branch you know
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but it's something I think people don't
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really understand and I'm I'm glad we
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make the point now in this series is
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that big he didn't just like go to La
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and got killed like they was living in
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La for like three years yeah you know
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like he was around La like he was
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getting love you know what I'm saying
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like I think the uh if I'm not mistaken
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they shot hypnotized video in L.A and
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that's when he did the Joe Claire
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interview that's I think that's
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California so anyway regardless of that
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he was living in California for like
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three months
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um getting much love from from the west
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side you know like this wasn't uh East
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Coast West Coast and California didn't
16:36
hate biggie this was a couple of people
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yeah I could I could vouch for that
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Kylie didn't hate biggie at all I don't
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know you can't go multi-platinum in
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without California yeah yeah you know
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like that's facts in the early 90s mid
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90s you can't go multiplying without
16:51
California so it was ridiculous how how
16:53
important you do do you feel like Derek
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D dot um was in too biggies musicals
16:59
yeah huge I wish DDOT was in this series
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he turned us down because he has some
17:03
issues with the estate but huge I mean
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and and you saw DDOT came to the hard to
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earn yes podcast we did a 25th and live
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on 25th anniversary um episode for the
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25th anniversary of Mason's um Harlem
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World album which DDOT he's actually
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produce and he came through as our guest
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and again honored he dropped so many
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gems but he tells you know he's so Cara
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you know he's sewing that animatic and
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like you know he's colorful and like
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he's a real character and I wish we
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could have got that for this series as
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well because he's got probably made
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possibly more biggie stories than
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anybody yeah you know anything from
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Brooklyn so and he's from Brooklyn
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um
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I I heard I saw Clips too of a lot of
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songs that biggie didn't want to do in
17:46
his past were there any songs on this
17:49
album that biggie wasn't in favor of
17:51
life after death uh and not in favor of
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no he had a lot of he had a lot more
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control this album okay and that's
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that's and that was something that we
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touched on as well even from his look I
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mean we have um uh legendary you know uh
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Taylor Guy woods and his wife Shireen
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was who owned five thousand one flavors
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you know people always talk about well
18:10
piggy always talked about Versace this
18:12
Versace that but um you know Versace
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wasn't making clothes for big size you
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know but they didn't even have the money
18:18
initially on writing it ready to die to
18:20
afford that stuff so uh you know guy was
18:22
they were custom making you know stuff
18:24
for him custom-making Versace shirts you
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know like on some Dapper dance style
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um so it's like you know you see his
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Imaging his Imaging he didn't have
18:33
control of his Imaging um he didn't have
18:34
control or even all the Beats
18:36
um for ready to die but then life after
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death comes and he's just like like I
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mean Somebody's gotta die somebody's got
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to die
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um those stories um [ __ ] Bleed yeah
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like those are iconic stories and he
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wrote those to just a loop like he never
18:49
even had drums on those songs like Big
18:51
never heard the final version to
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somebody's got to die never heard the
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final version wow to [ __ ] Bleed he
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never heard that like he the uh the
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sample for somebody's got to die I think
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is the um
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I think it's Delfonics
19:03
um in the rain
19:05
just the loop he wrote that whole story
19:07
just to the loop wow wow and then and
19:09
then um Hashem added the drums and the
19:13
raindrops in the background and the
19:14
sound effects for the story like it
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wasn't even produced yet it was like
19:17
that just shows you how genius big was
19:19
like to make that up with no inspiration
19:22
from the music uh-huh crazy did you find
19:24
that out while doing the research for
19:26
this so that's this information you
19:27
already knew no no we found that out
19:29
while interviewing I didn't know we
19:31
thought me and me I mean I'm directing
19:33
Ange so I wrote and directed this series
19:35
if I had to make that clear but like so
19:36
I'm directing I'm directing the shoot
19:38
and Ange is interviewing nasheem and
19:40
when he says that Ange is like whoa and
19:42
like everybody said it's like wait what
19:44
like I love love like somebody's got a
19:48
DOT is a perfect rap song that's an
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amazing Story I mean if you talk about
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the best stories in hip-hop that's one
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of the the best ones and the fact that
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his Man created that without a sound bed
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like a real banana that's insane that's
20:03
absolutely insane as the writer director
20:05
of this Bond
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um talk about your collaboration with
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Angie Martinez like how does that work
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because you have someone who is such a
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stellar condiment professional in this
20:18
game you know what I mean you also come
20:20
from a background as a journalism you
20:21
know how to interview someone really
20:23
well do you let her have free reign do
20:25
you guys have conversations about you
20:27
know the angle of where you want to take
20:29
this interview like what does that look
20:30
like behind the scenes well I mean
20:32
people were like people people didn't
20:33
understand when I say writer and
20:34
director like how did you write this
20:36
like it's yeah you know just interviews
20:37
and I'm like well there's a framework
20:38
right that you have to I direct
20:40
according to the framework
20:42
um I create questions for the
20:43
interviewers I mean for the interviews
20:45
according to the framework so it's me
20:47
just like you know kind of feeding age
20:49
Ang is you know Angela Legend she's
20:51
going to make it happen she's going to
20:52
take the questions and and know how to
20:54
follow up and you know she also has her
20:56
own history with a lot of these these
20:57
guests like she's the OG she knew big
20:59
big came to her birthday party you know
21:02
um so it's my job to make her job easier
21:04
so the framework work was created by
21:06
myself you know what we want to go for
21:09
um you know actually know a little bit
21:10
more about the the music history than in
21:13
an age you know but even though Ange
21:15
knew him you know because you know and
21:16
just talked to everybody in the world so
21:18
she doesn't you know remember everything
21:20
from 1984 where it's like I'm like the
21:22
rap nerd so I'm like oh yeah on this
21:25
yeah
21:27
exactly exactly literally literally
21:29
that's what's happening okay let's go
21:30
into music man and come back and talk
21:32
about it man this is an incredible
21:34
series iconic record season one life
21:37
after death hosted by Angie Martinez
21:40
written and directed by Bon Sue Thompson
21:42
you can find it on YouTube you can find
21:44
it on the Roku channel channel 1137 uh
21:47
new episode dropping today at noon
21:49
absolutely all right let's go into music
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