Aki Starr on Spanish Fly’s Billboard Hits and Thump Records History | SWAY’S UNIVERSE
May 26, 2026
Step back into the golden era of freestyle and hip hop with Sway Calloway and the legendary Aki Starr. This episode is a deep dive into the untold stories of the Bay Area music scene, from secret R&B singing careers to delivering seafood in San Francisco Chinatown. Whether you are a fan of classic freestyle or the history of Chicano culture, this conversation covers the heartbeat of the movement. 🎤
In this video, Sway and Aki Starr reunite to reminisce about their early days with Fly Dynamic Force and All City Productions. Aki shares the incredible journey of Spanish Fly, their Billboard-charting hits with Warner Brothers, and the current resurgence of freestyle music across the globe. We also get an inside look at the history of Thump Records and the cultural significance of the East Side Story compilations that defined a generation. 🚗
Key highlights include a breakdown of how freestyle was actually invented in New York by John Roby and Arthur Baker, the evolution of breakdancing from the streets to the Olympics, and a touching memory of meeting Selena in 1994. Plus, do not miss the rare moment where Sway's past as an R&B singer and songwriter is revealed! The episode wraps up with a beautiful live performance that will take you straight back to the nineties. 🎶
Chapters
0:00 The early days of New Craze and Spanish Fly
2:30 Sway's secret R&B singing and songwriting career
5:15 Delivering seafood and working at UPS in 1989
8:45 The resurgence of freestyle and oldies music
11:30 The history and impact of Thump Records
14:50 Exploring Chicano culture and lowrider history
17:30 Zoot suits and the art of breakdancing
21:00 The New York origins of freestyle music
24:15 How Planet Rock changed hip hop and new wave
27:30 Meeting Selena in Corpus Christi in 1994
31:00 Upcoming shows at the Solano County Fair
34:00 Aki Starr live performance of Always and Forever
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0:00
Shay 45, man. That's a 1994 smash right
0:04
there with Aki Starr, Treasure of My
0:06
Heart by a group called Spanish Fly. I
0:09
met Aki in the late '80s when we got
0:12
together
0:14
out of high school. I was um
0:17
starting as a
0:19
MC with DJ King Tech. And we created
0:23
something called we had our crew called
0:25
Flying Force and then we created
0:28
something called All City Productions.
0:30
Which was
0:32
a bunch of crews that came together for
0:34
resistance. Which was Kev and Chubb. We
0:38
had a group called New Craz.
0:40
>> Oh.
0:41
>> Yes, that before he was in Spanish Fly
0:44
and before he was in Malo, he was in the
0:46
group called New Craz featuring Aki
0:48
Starr, Anthony Russell. Um
0:51
>> King Tech.
0:52
>> King Tech.
0:52
>> Sway Calloway.
0:53
>> Dave, I wasn't in the group. I was just
0:55
riding for the group.
0:57
>> But you but you know, do they know that
0:59
you sang on the record?
1:01
Hey hey EVERY FOR EVERYBODY
1:05
SWAY SWAY DID SOME VOCALS. HE was
1:08
actually singing on the record.
1:10
>> to hear it.
1:10
>> Called Love Games.
1:11
>> Yeah, man.
1:12
>> Um
1:13
>> Sway fire rod, G. I'm not going to say
1:15
it.
1:15
>> Y'all had AI back then?
1:18
>> Oh, yeah.
1:18
>> That's crazy Tracy.
1:20
>> sang on key.
1:20
>> Well, what what it was is I was also
1:23
writing
1:24
helping we all kind of chipped in and
1:26
wrote records and one of the records was
1:29
I Got It Girl.
1:30
Um how did how did the chorus go?
1:33
>> Girl girl girl girl dreams come true if
1:38
you wait. All it takes is a little time,
1:41
girl. Yeah.
1:44
>> Yeah, I wrote that.
1:47
>> Y'all Y'all didn't know Sway was an R&B
1:50
guy. You know, writing writing R&B
1:53
singing R&B.
1:54
>> That's crazy.
1:55
>> The secret is out.
1:56
>> The secret is out.
1:57
>> So so So you know what they say. So you
2:00
got to demonstrate your singing.
2:01
>> Stop. That's what you do.
2:03
I've demonstrated plenty. Torch, pull it
2:05
up. I've demonstrated plenty.
2:07
>> Wow.
2:07
>> You know if I have to.
2:13
>> Sway, that's actually amazing.
2:15
>> There you go.
2:16
That was Cynthia Erivo for Wicked. I hit
2:18
that note. Right in front of her, bro.
2:21
>> Okay.
2:21
>> But I will say this. Akai Star is a This
2:24
is my brother. And at a time when Tack
2:27
and I, all of us were trying to get it
2:29
together, we still worked a lot of
2:30
outside jobs. I always had a job. And
2:33
one of the jobs I Y'all hear me talking
2:35
about is delivering seafood product, you
2:40
know, early in the morning at 5:00 a.m.,
2:42
driving a delivery truck.
2:45
This is the man, Akai Star, that got me
2:48
that job. Give that man a round of
2:51
applause.
2:52
And we used to drive around
2:54
>> Chinatown, San Francisco.
2:55
>> Uh-huh. How many restaurants did we hit
2:57
today?
2:58
>> Man, we used to hit a bunch of them. And
3:00
Here here's a Here's a quick little
3:01
story.
3:02
Uh Sway and I were delivering in this
3:04
one restaurant, and this little
3:05
85-year-old lady is walking to the
3:08
restroom, and then as soon as she passed
3:10
by the kitchen, a huge rat just ran
3:14
behind her, and Sway AND I LIKE,
3:19
MAN, I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO HAVE A
3:20
HEART ATTACK. BUT THE the poor old lady,
3:22
thank god she didn't see that big old
3:23
rat, because you know, Chinatown is
3:25
>> dirty.
3:25
>> Yeah, well, it was then. I don't want to
3:26
say that now. They cleaned up a little
3:28
bit.
3:28
>> Well, they say they did.
3:30
>> They They say they did. And we would go
3:31
in these restaurants and see just the
3:33
nastiest I'm It's not a knock on
3:35
Chinatown, but you know, we we'd just
3:37
see some really nasty stuff. And then we
3:40
start working at UPS.
3:41
>> Yes, the UPS, man.
3:43
>> Yeah, you remember that?
3:44
>> Oh, yeah, '89 earthquake, man.
3:46
>> Yeah. That was '89?
3:48
>> Yeah.
3:48
>> It's all a blur to me, bro.
3:50
>> Man.
3:51
One last thing about Chinatown, they
3:53
used to love Sway in Chinatown. Every
3:54
time they used to see him, they used to
3:55
give him free dim sum, free barbecue
3:58
pork. Remember that, Sway?
3:59
>> Free rat.
4:00
>> He was eating that rat.
4:02
>> He He liked the rat.
4:03
>> That was the rat.
4:04
>> That was the rat.
4:07
>> I was hard working, though. I was hard
4:09
working UPS. I was building walls. You
4:11
got me that job, too.
4:12
>> Hey, Sway learned how to load them
4:14
trucks like you wouldn't believe.
4:16
>> Yeah.
4:19
>> Can I just say something really quick?
4:21
When When DJ Curse was was mixing, man,
4:23
I was break dancing at back of the
4:25
scenes, man. He had me doing some
4:27
shuffles, man. Another shout-out to DJ
4:29
Curse. Come on now.
4:31
>> Yo, you killed that, bro.
4:32
>> Killed it.
4:33
>> Aki Starr, um
4:35
you you you stayed true to it, man. You
4:37
never stopped performing. You know, you
4:39
got into the group. After All City, what
4:41
did you end up doing?
4:43
>> Man, Spanish Fly, we got the deal with
4:45
Warner Brothers. Um you know, Treasure
4:47
of My Heart. Then we did a a acapella
4:48
song, Daddy's Daddy's Home. Doo doo doo
4:52
doo.
4:53
And that was about the same time when
4:54
All 4 One had that song, As We Stroll
4:58
Along Together.
5:01
And that That was charting on Billboard.
5:03
So, when Warner Brothers heard our
5:04
acapella, they said, "You know what?
5:06
Let's release that." And it bubbled on
5:09
on the on radio nationwide. That's how
5:10
we got the deal with Warner Brothers.
5:12
>> Mhm.
5:12
>> It charted on Billboard. You know, we've
5:14
had a total of four songs that charted
5:16
on Billboard in my career with Spanish
5:17
Fly. So, it's just been it's been
5:18
amazing.
5:19
>> It's been amazing.
5:20
>> It's been amazing. I mean, we're riding
5:21
it to the ground. I I'm booked all year
5:24
round. I got show I just showed Sway my
5:25
schedule.
5:26
>> Mhm.
5:26
>> What you think of that?
5:27
>> Man, bro, you you got more you got more
5:29
shows than Chris BROWN RIGHT NOW.
5:34
>> YEAH. COME ON NOW.
5:35
>> ME TELL you ask you this, cuz Rogie, you
5:37
talk about the Soldies and and I Aki
5:41
Starr, you've been performing freestyle
5:43
for decades now.
5:45
Um are we seeing a resurgence? Cuz I
5:48
know you were in Brazil. You called me
5:49
with I think it was George Lamond
5:52
from Brazil last year.
5:53
>> Stevie B.
5:54
>> Or was Stevie B?
5:55
>> I called you from Stevie B's house.
5:56
>> From his house, right? And so,
5:59
what happened to freestyle music? Is it
6:01
still a thing? Is it having a
6:03
resurgence? Why are these concerts
6:05
selling out?
6:06
>> Because freestyle music is now the old
6:09
school. And you you know how it is.
6:10
Every time there's old school all the
6:12
older folks come out. They sell out the
6:14
arenas. Freestyle did take a dip, but
6:16
lately in the last in the last 5 to 10
6:18
years, you know, you got promoters like
6:20
Bobby D, Alan Beck. They just blew it up
6:23
and they're selling concerts out. Uh um
6:25
and now I'm not just doing freestyle
6:27
thanks to Brandel Padilla and and and
6:30
Bill Walker from Thump Records East Side
6:32
Story. Now I'm doing oldies, so I've
6:34
kind of become like a hybrid artist. I'm
6:36
the really the only artist that's doing
6:38
freestyle
6:39
and the doo-wop oldies.
6:41
>> The doo-wop oldies.
6:42
>> Absolutely.
6:43
>> Which is different from
6:45
the R&B oldies, right? How so? What's
6:47
the difference?
6:48
>> So, um the soulful oldies is, you know,
6:51
has a little bit more of a uh
6:54
familiar sound, right? As far as like
6:56
artists like The Four Tops, The
6:57
Spinners, those kind of things, right?
6:58
But then the doo-wop oldies are more
7:00
specific to a sound, right? Where it's
7:02
more stripped down music musically.
7:04
>> It's harmonies.
7:05
>> There's more right. So, there's more
7:06
harmonies and more, you know, collabs
7:08
and start with vocals and things like
7:09
that, right? But, um
7:12
they still fall in the same genre.
7:14
People still listen to both. They like
7:15
both of them, right? Um but to ask you a
7:17
question about the resurgence, right? I
7:19
think what happened is uh
7:21
all the people that grew up listening to
7:23
the music as a kid are older now, and
7:27
their kids are listening to it from
7:29
their parents. And so, it took a minute
7:31
before those kids to grow up. And now
7:32
that they're older,
7:34
it's bringing back the nostalgia when
7:35
they were kids, and they love the music.
7:37
So, when they're hearing the sound
7:38
that's familiar, so when someone creates
7:39
a song that's newer that has that same
7:41
sound, the doo-wop sound or oldie sound,
7:43
the kids like, "Oh, this sounds really
7:45
familiar." and they like it, but because
7:46
it's new, now it's theirs. Yeah. Right,
7:49
so now you have a little bit of both
7:50
things that are happening, so I think
7:51
that's why that's becoming a little bit
7:53
more popular.
7:54
>> We got Brandel from Thump. Brandel,
7:56
please please tell us the history of
7:58
Thump and why Thump has been so
7:59
important in the scene for decades now.
8:02
Like when a lot of the car shows you
8:04
see, Thump magazine. Thump has been What
8:07
What is Thump's objective and what is
8:09
Thump for people who don't know?
8:11
>> So, Thump Records was an independent
8:13
record label established by Bill Walker,
8:16
who started as a swap meet vendor.
8:18
>> Uh-huh.
8:19
>> So, he was working retail and he was
8:21
seeing what everybody was coming in and
8:23
buying. So, we're celebrating our 36th
8:25
year anniversary this year. Um and Bill,
8:29
as a result of the interaction with
8:31
retail, started building old-school
8:33
compilations. So, Old School Volume 1,
8:36
2, 3, 4, etc. Lowrider oldies. And at
8:39
one point in time in the '90s, we were
8:42
um
8:42
partly owned by Park Avenue Publishing,
8:44
which was Lowrider magazine.
8:46
So, we started doing all the Lowrider
8:48
car shows
8:49
and
8:50
started the Lowrider compilations,
8:52
Lowrider oldies. So, it started off
8:55
basically as a
8:56
like a Rhino Records, but specifically
8:59
geared toward a Chicano demographic.
9:01
>> Mhm.
9:02
>> Uh and
9:04
we were distributed by Navarre, but now
9:06
we're distributed by Virgin Universal.
9:09
And because the business model of the
9:11
music industry has changed since we
9:13
started, we started throwing these East
9:16
Side Story car shows.
9:18
>> Mhm.
9:18
>> And the East Side Story, for those who
9:20
aren't familiar, was
9:23
basically a bootleg compilation that was
9:25
started by a gentleman named Anthony
9:27
Broussard Ellis 47 years ago. I believe
9:30
the first one came out in 1979.
9:33
So, we also have another label called
9:34
East Side Records.
9:36
So, we took that bootleg compilation
9:39
and legitimized it. We licensed all the
9:41
songs and put them out legitimately. So,
9:43
as a result, we started the car shows,
9:46
and that's how I got introduced to Oki,
9:49
aka Spanish Fly.
9:50
And we've been That's what we've been
9:52
doing.
9:52
>> And Brando, tell us tell us what your
9:54
Instagram name is.
9:56
>> East Side STORY ORIGINAL PLAYBOY.
9:58
>> OH, THE ORIGINAL PLAYBOY.
10:02
SO, BRANDO, WHEN YOU SAY CHICANO, for
10:04
those who don't know what Chicano
10:06
culture is, how would you describe it?
10:09
>> Mexican-American.
10:10
>> Okay.
10:10
>> So, like your second, third generation
10:14
Mexican
10:15
>> Okay.
10:15
>> You know,
10:16
parents came from Mexico.
10:17
>> But the kids born here.
10:19
>> Uh-huh.
10:19
>> Okay.
10:20
>> And they did they did have um in Orange
10:22
County, there was a at an art museum,
10:25
they did a
10:26
activation
10:28
explaining the history of of lowriding.
10:30
And what I learned was a lot of you
10:33
know, the cars and the lowering the
10:35
hydraulics, that was a result of these
10:38
young Mexican-American or Chicanos from
10:40
World War II that came back home with
10:43
the skill set.
10:44
And they started tricking out the cars,
10:47
and that's how that whole culture
10:48
started.
10:49
>> So, they learned the skill set being
10:51
engineers at war.
10:52
>> Mhm.
10:53
>> And brought that back.
10:54
>> Yes.
10:54
>> Fixing on war items.
10:57
>> Yeah.
10:57
>> You know, like
10:58
>> Yeah, taking what they learned and and
10:59
just applying it to the vehicles and and
11:01
making something their own.
11:03
>> And that's actually the way that the
11:04
whole You talk about zoot suits. You
11:06
guys know what what a zoot suit is,
11:08
right?
11:08
>> Break that down, man.
11:09
>> Hey, man. My last name is Calloway. Make
11:11
sure you mention that.
11:12
Cash Calloway. Sway's got a zoot suit.
11:15
He's got a long feather in his hat. So,
11:17
you you guys just don't know, man.
11:19
But zoot suits, hey, I'm wearing a zoot
11:21
suit tonight, baby.
11:22
>> Yeah.
11:23
>> With the long feather, the long chain
11:25
that Chicanos, you know, so
11:26
>> Oki's got a fuchsia colored zoot suit.
11:29
>> I got a bright pink zoot suit.
11:30
>> Oh, you rocking pink today?
11:31
>> Not not the
11:32
>> No, I'm not. I'm wearing the black
11:34
pinstripe, baby.
11:35
>> Okay, that's what you're doing tonight.
11:38
This dude, dude, how many hair spins
11:40
hair hair spins at the top of your game
11:42
could you hit?
11:42
>> Man, I used to
11:44
do my tabs, gain speed, my legs like a
11:46
helicopter, and then start my glides,
11:48
take my jacket off as I'm spinning, and
11:51
then start closing my legs like an ice
11:53
skater, and just
11:55
at least my 20 no handers. Come on now.
12:00
It's on video.
12:01
>> It's on video. It's real. Yeah, you can
12:03
see the
12:03
We got David from Cali on the line.
12:05
David, welcome to the show. We got Aki
12:07
Starr, Rodney G. We got Brando from
12:09
Thump on the on the show with us today.
12:10
They got a big show tonight. Where is it
12:12
at, Rodney G?
12:13
>> At the LA County Fair in Pomona.
12:14
>> Okay. David, you want to go?
12:19
David, you there?
12:22
I guess Dave's gone. You're on mute,
12:24
Dave. Check him out for me, Lonnie. Um
12:26
Aki, let me ask you this.
12:28
>> Yeah.
12:28
>> You know, freestyle music
12:31
When I thought of free When I think of
12:32
freestyle, I think Cover Girls. I think
12:34
Expose, I think Stevie B, I think George
12:37
Lamond, you know, TKA, you know, um I
12:41
think of all of these acts that had such
12:43
a success story, and most of them were
12:46
from New York, right? So, freestyle to
12:49
me
12:50
um was spawned out of New York. But then
12:52
it feels like freestyle moved to San
12:55
Jose,
12:56
to the South Bay.
12:57
>> Yes.
12:57
>> Right? What happened?
13:00
>> So, freestyle
13:01
was invented in New York
13:03
by a gentleman by the name of John
13:05
Robie.
13:07
John Robie,
13:08
along with Arthur Baker, created the
13:11
freestyle sound when they produced the
13:13
song Planet Rock. And on the same day
13:16
that they produced the song Planet Rock,
13:17
they had all these bonus beats that they
13:19
weren't using. So, there was a doo-wop
13:21
group down the hall in another studio
13:24
down in the same building called the
13:25
Energetics.
13:27
So, they so they said, "Let's bring the
13:28
Let's bring the singers over here. Let's
13:29
see if they if they want to sing off of
13:31
these bonus beats on Planet Rock that we
13:32
didn't use." So, they brought them over.
13:35
The Energetics wrote some lyrics.
13:37
You guys know of the song Planet Rock,
13:39
of course. Yeah. So, uh
13:41
they wrote some lyrics in about 30
13:43
minutes
13:44
the song is done. Play at your own risk.
13:48
They cut the vocals.
13:50
Arthur Baker, John Robie, and Afrika
13:53
Bambaataa
13:54
told them, "Hey, we we need to change
13:56
your name, you know, to something more
13:57
galactic." Cuz back in the days, you
13:59
know, the whole galactic thing was in
14:01
style, you know, Tour de France, uh
14:03
Nucleus. So, the Energetics changed
14:06
their name to Planet Patrol. Thus
14:10
was the first time anyone sang to a to a
14:13
a beat
14:14
Planet Rock. And thus, that became the
14:17
first official freestyle record of all
14:19
time before all those other freestyle
14:21
groups. So, John Robie is credited as
14:25
the inventor of freestyle music.
14:27
>> We got Aggi Starr here with us. We got
14:29
Rod G. We got my man Brando from Thump
14:31
Records here. We're going over a little
14:32
bit of history here. Aggi Starr
14:34
performing tonight. If you're in the
14:36
Pomona area, you want to go see a great
14:39
show. Where do they go, Rod G?
14:41
>> Go to the LA County Fair and hit me on
14:43
IG at Rod G. If you want tickets, I got
14:46
you for free. Bring the family. The kids
14:48
are going to love it. I mean, just hit
14:49
me up. I got you.
14:50
>> What What How do you spell Rod G?
14:51
>> R O D G E E.
14:54
>> All right. And Aggi
14:55
>> be performing. And thank you for that
14:56
history of freestyle. Freestyle
14:59
and hip hop
15:00
is that where that intersection first
15:02
happened because
15:05
because of of of Planet Patrol, Arthur
15:09
Baker,
15:11
like how you know, Afrika Bambaataa,
15:13
who's one of the forefathers of hip hop?
15:16
Is that where that intersection happened
15:18
between freestyle and and hip hop?
15:19
>> Absolutely. Absolutely. As you know,
15:21
Afrika Bambaataa, may he rest in peace,
15:23
you know, he's considered the godfather
15:25
of hip hop. And Planet Rock and Play at
15:27
Your Own Risk was the foundation of so
15:30
many different genres because after they
15:32
recorded those two songs and released
15:34
them,
15:35
not only do you have freestyle, but some
15:37
of the
15:38
some of the '80s new wave were inspired
15:40
by by John Robie and Arthur Baker's
15:43
production. So,
15:44
>> Can you give me an example of some of
15:45
the '80s new wave?
15:47
>> Like New Order, you know, uh
15:48
>> the song they had?
15:49
>> They had Strange Love. Da da da da da da
15:53
da da. Strange Love. And uh and then uh
15:56
they had a song called Confusion, which
15:58
was produced by Arthur Baker and John
16:00
Robie. Confusion was uh done by I think
16:02
New Order or something. But yeah, so
16:04
they had a lot of influence
16:06
on not just freestyle, but you know,
16:07
many other genres that they did.
16:09
>> I can do
16:09
>> Blue Monday, yeah. Blue Monday.
16:13
>> Absolutely. And then of course, you
16:14
know, Arthur Baker, his influence on hip
16:16
hop, you know, we all know the
16:17
influence.
16:18
>> Uh-huh.
16:18
>> You know, so um
16:19
>> Yeah.
16:19
>> That's interesting. You You Kool Herc I
16:22
thought was considered the godfather of
16:23
hip hop, but they're all the forefathers
16:25
of hip hop.
16:26
>> Yeah, Kool Herc and and Grand Wizard
16:28
Theodore at that house party in the
16:30
Bronx. Was it the Bronx?
16:31
>> Grand Wizard Theodore. Yeah, Kool Herc.
16:33
>> Theodore and Kool. Yep. They had that
16:35
house famous house party. I still got a
16:37
copy of that flyer.
16:38
>> Sedgwick. 1580 Sedgwick, I believe.
16:41
>> That's the birth of hip hop.
16:42
>> Let me hear that song real quick. And
16:44
David's on the line from California.
16:46
David made it back. What up, David?
16:48
>> Hey, D.
16:49
>> Yo.
16:50
>> What's happening, man?
16:51
>> Hey, how's it going?
16:52
>> Great, great, great.
16:54
What's on your mind?
16:55
>> Hey, man. I'm a big fan. Um hey, so you
16:58
were you guys were talking about a song
17:00
like from a long time ago called Love
17:02
Games.
17:06
>> Yeah. Yeah, we put that out on All City
17:09
Records. That's Keep Tech and I put that
17:11
label together and it was functioning
17:13
out of my mother's house in my bedroom.
17:16
And he's talking.
17:19
>> Who Who's Who's Man, that that's crazy.
17:21
Who Who sung that? I Like I was a kid. I
17:23
was probably maybe elementary, maybe
17:26
middle school. I don't remember the time
17:27
era.
17:28
>> Yeah.
17:29
>> But yeah, man. Um
17:33
It was on a freaking on a
17:35
cassette tape recorded.
17:36
>> Yeah. The yellow label.
17:39
Yeah, man.
17:40
>> Did you say Did you Did you want to know
17:42
who sang that?
17:44
>> Yeah, who sang that? Was that you? Was
17:45
that freaking Sway, man?
17:47
>> Well, Sway sang on it, but you say that
17:50
you love me
17:52
>> Oh my god.
17:54
>> Stop playing
17:57
where I never win.
17:59
>> All right. Play a little bit.
18:00
>> Oh, yeah.
18:01
>> So when you're bought a game Here we go.
18:04
games
18:06
>> Yeah. Oh, man. Look at that.
18:09
>> Do you remember this, David?
18:10
>> That's awesome.
18:12
Hell yeah.
18:14
Oh, holy
18:17
Oh, yeah.
18:21
I I I could listen to this forever.
18:28
Oh my god.
18:29
>> My voice changed since then.
18:34
>> Oh, yeah.
18:36
>> Sing it, Sway.
18:38
>> So when you're
18:39
I can't remember the lyrics.
18:42
And
18:44
don't come running back to me, cuz I
18:47
won't be around.
18:49
>> Oh, yeah.
18:51
>> You heard it this morning,
18:54
Sway. Sing it. Come on now.
18:55
>> All right, Oakland.
18:58
>> Oh, man.
18:58
>> Khar Beats way. All right. Tech produced
19:01
it. That's right.
19:02
Tech produced the music to it. David,
19:04
I'm glad we took you You would have
19:05
never thought that Sway and Tech had
19:07
something to do with love games, huh,
19:09
David?
19:10
>> No, man. Hey, so so my cousin he
19:13
freaking when my cousin introduced me to
19:15
that song and he freaking lied to me
19:16
said his homeboy sang it or whatever.
19:19
I was like, "You just freaking lying."
19:21
You freaking lying, dude. Like, I don't
19:24
know who sang you know, whatever.
19:25
>> Well, when you look at the cassette,
19:28
there's a phone number on the cassette.
19:29
510-436-6116.
19:33
That number was my bedroom number in my
19:35
mother's house. We was pretending like
19:37
we had a record label.
19:39
>> Wow.
19:40
>> And for some for some reason, I've never
19:42
forgotten that number.
19:43
>> Me either, bro.
19:44
>> It's implanted in my mind.
19:45
>> Yeah, man. That was our That was our
19:47
beginnings.
19:48
>> Yeah. Right? Crazy.
19:49
>> Yeah.
19:50
>> Call it now. Let's see what happens.
19:52
>> happens.
19:53
It's probably live over there.
19:54
>> Yeah, we should call it.
19:56
>> You want to call it?
19:56
>> It's probably live over
19:57
>> Call it now. I'm going to call it, man.
19:59
>> 510-436-6116.
20:02
>> I don't know if I'm going to do it from
20:03
my phone.
20:04
Yeah, somebody else
20:04
>> Use the landline.
20:05
>> Yeah, hold on a second.
20:06
>> Yeah, do it I got to call it.
20:07
>> No, no, I'm going to hear it ring. I'm
20:09
going to see if it'll ring.
20:10
>> Put it on air. Put it up.
20:11
>> Well, hang on a second.
20:12
What are the last four digits again?
20:14
>> 6116.
20:15
>> 6116.
20:16
>> 510-436. Put it up on air so we can hear
20:18
it ring.
20:19
>> Imagine if Tech answers.
20:21
>> Imagine if I answer,
20:22
That'd be even scarier.
20:25
I'm still in my mother's house on 23rd
20:27
Ave.
20:29
I know
20:32
somebody has that number.
20:34
Um and once again, Rajee is the person
20:38
that has been very instrumental in us
20:40
launching the SKT Network app. He has a
20:43
brilliant mind. His diligence
20:46
um
20:47
it's it's every day is something new.
20:49
What do we have coming up, Rajee? You
20:51
just showed me some of the artwork.
20:52
>> Oh, man. I'm I'm super excited to start
20:55
sharing some of the international
20:56
segments we have as far as artists
20:58
concerned from you know, from France,
21:00
Canada, Nigeria, Jamaica, like different
21:02
different areas of the world just to
21:04
show you how global you guys are, man.
21:06
Like it's a global thing. so I'm excited
21:08
to do that. Plus, I'm you know, starting
21:10
to add a lot of music videos that are
21:12
from independent artists of people that
21:14
we listen to that don't get the light
21:16
that they normally should. So, putting
21:18
their videos up there and giving them a
21:19
platform as well. So, I'm excited to get
21:21
those things up in the air real real
21:22
soon.
21:23
>> All right, great job, man. Great work,
21:24
man. We got nothing but rave reviews. We
21:27
got some other big announcements we're
21:28
going to make really soon about the
21:30
platform and its expansion. I'm looking
21:32
forward to that. John Z, you got the
21:34
phone line up?
21:35
>> I'm getting like all circuits busy or
21:37
some weirdness.
21:38
>> Oh, you guys are off the chain.
21:39
>> They're off the charts.
21:40
>> Oh, man.
21:41
>> All circuits are busy now. Please try
21:43
your call again later.
21:44
>> What does that mean? Did we
21:46
flood this person's line? It's simply
21:47
not working.
21:48
>> 510-436, yeah.
21:50
>> It's crazy. That's crazy.
21:52
>> They do no record deals, guys.
21:54
>> Oh, man.
21:55
>> You know what I want to do, while we
21:57
Tracy and Mike, if y'all feel free to
21:58
jump in if y'all want to jump in.
22:30
>> In 1994 in the city of Corpus Christi,
22:34
we did a show
22:35
that was Spanish Fly,
22:37
Barrio Boys, and Selena.
22:41
That was the first time that I met
22:43
Selena. We were backstage. She was so
22:45
humble, so bubbly. We were eating tacos
22:48
together in the bench, laughing,
22:50
hugging. You know, she was so humble in
22:52
person. Her entire family was there.
22:55
4 months later, she's dead.
22:58
And then 2 months later,
23:00
Spanish Fly got invited to perform at
23:02
the Latin Billboard Music Awards in
23:04
Miami. They did a special
23:06
tribute to Selena. We got a chance to
23:08
sing,
23:09
um, you know, in in remembrance of her.
23:11
So, to to me, meeting her in 1994 in
23:15
Corpus Christi was an an amazing
23:17
experience, especially how her legacy
23:19
has continued and has blossomed and
23:22
everybody loves Selena to this day.
23:25
>> So, she knew you?
23:27
>> Yeah.
23:27
>> Yeah?
23:28
>> We were high-fiving, we were eating
23:29
tacos
23:30
>> together.
23:30
>> Wow.
23:31
>> Oh, yeah. We having a good old time.
23:32
>> What was her personality like?
23:34
>> Mhm.
23:34
>> So bubbly, so full of life, so joking.
23:38
Like, she was just laughing the whole
23:39
entire time getting ready for her show.
23:42
And then, mind you, when she performed,
23:43
there was about 10,000 people in the
23:45
audience just screaming. She was already
23:47
huge in Corpus Christi. That's her
23:48
hometown. She was born there.
23:50
>> Yeah.
23:50
>> Yeah, she was so wonderful.
23:52
>> Wow, man, that's amazing, man. I didn't
23:54
even know that. You never told me that
23:55
story.
23:56
>> Yeah, yeah, it's just
23:58
Yeah, it's
23:58
>> That's crazy.
23:59
>> There's a lot of stories I haven't told
24:00
you, man.
24:00
>> I didn't realize that. That's crazy. I
24:02
used to sleep on his floor.
24:04
We He used to sneak me in his house late
24:06
at night cuz we used to go to clubs and
24:11
And he would sneak me back in his house
24:13
late at night cuz I couldn't get back
24:14
over to Oakland cuz I didn't have a car.
24:17
So,
24:18
I used to drive
24:19
>> Oh my god.
24:20
>> and the BART station closed at 10:00, so
24:23
and his mom We were always scared of his
24:25
mom. "She's going to find out you're
24:27
sleeping here." So, I I used to sleep He
24:30
used to have me sleep on the floor cuz I
24:32
couldn't sleep on the couch cuz the mom
24:34
might his mom might get up. And so, I
24:36
used to sleep on the floor and I
24:37
remember one time I think I was sleeping
24:39
on the floor and I had to go to the
24:41
bathroom
24:43
in the middle of the night and his mom
24:44
saw me.
24:45
>> Oh, wow.
24:48
>> She screamed
24:50
She screamed at the top of HER LUNGS,
24:52
"AH!"
24:56
"WHO WAS THIS BLACK MAN IN MY HOUSE?
25:00
>> OH MY GOSH.
25:02
>> AND I WAS SO scared of his mom and then
25:04
I
25:05
and then
25:05
>> Towards with a gunshot.
25:08
>> I was so scared of his mom and then his
25:11
mom, bless her beautiful soul, was the
25:14
sweetest woman
25:15
>> Man.
25:16
>> to me.
25:17
The sweetest woman to me.
25:18
>> And now she is smiling from heaven upon
25:21
us, you know, she loves you.
25:22
>> Yes, man.
25:23
>> She loves all of us here, you know.
25:25
>> Beautiful and your sister, man.
25:27
>> Oh, yeah.
25:28
>> Yeah, tell your sister I said what up.
25:30
>> Um I will, she's going to be there June
25:31
13th.
25:32
>> She's coming. So, June 13th I'll be
25:34
hosting the show
25:35
that Aki Starr is performing and putting
25:37
together and this will be where?
25:40
>> It's going to be in the city of Vallejo,
25:42
California, the Eastside Story Review.
25:44
We got Brand Nubian house, so so it's
25:47
it's the Eastside Story Review and at
25:49
the Solano County Fair in Vallejo. Sway
25:51
is going to host.
25:53
We got the bands Tierra performing,
25:55
Richie Bean of Malo, we got Supernatural
25:58
performing.
25:59
>> Yeah, Supernatural going to be
26:00
performing.
26:01
>> Supernatural, man, I can't wait to hear
26:02
him freestyle.
26:03
>> Yeah, that's going to be dope. That's
26:04
going to be dope.
26:05
>> We got Black Sheep performing.
26:06
>> That's right.
26:07
>> Engine Engine Number We just played it
26:09
earlier, I was I was breakdancing. We
26:11
got Spanish Fly performing, which is me,
26:13
Charlie B Real is performing.
26:15
>> Mhm.
26:16
>> You know, we got Johnny David
26:17
performing, Raquel Ramirez, Tony Green,
26:19
the Sacred Fire band. It all goes down
26:22
at the Solano County Fair in Vallejo,
26:24
June the 13th, Sway is hosting.
26:27
>> Yeah, I'm going to introduce a couple of
26:29
acts, I'm not doing the whole thing.
26:31
Uh unless Heather comes with me. All
26:33
right. No have huh? What?
26:37
>> Like, do you ever take into
26:38
consideration what I'm doing when we're
26:40
not working? Ever?
26:42
>> Ever?
26:42
>> Ever.
26:43
>> Ever ever? Like, never never.
26:46
>> I'm done.
26:48
>> Mike, you got a question?
27:12
>> Oh, it's ridiculous. I mean, and as you
27:13
know, it was in the in in the Olympics.
27:16
And then we had the whole Red Bull
27:17
thing, which, you know, we all know who
27:20
Red Bull is. But, besides that, break
27:22
dancing has evolved into just something
27:25
incredible. I mean, Sway knows. He's
27:26
seen the young the young hip hop break
27:30
dancers. They're doing incredible moves.
27:32
Like, moves that we would have never
27:34
thought of. You know, the Red Bull BC
27:36
One is is large. Battle of the Year in
27:38
Europe is large.
27:39
>> Juste Debout.
27:40
>> Juste Debout, yeah, with the twins. You
27:41
know, the twins.
27:43
I mean, we got kids that are just doing
27:45
unreal moves. So, it's become a
27:47
phenomenon. It's it's just amazing.
27:50
>> It's a It's a very profitable It's a
27:53
It's It's like arenas are being filled,
27:55
Mike Muse. Like, you
27:57
>> Absolutely. You know, we got B-Boy
27:59
Wicked. He's become like one of the top
28:01
hosts that's hosting all these events.
28:03
B-Boy Wicked, of course, is is from
28:05
Renegades.
28:06
You know, he loves Sway in the Tech. You
28:08
know, so uh
28:09
It has evolved into something
28:11
incredible. And Mike
28:13
Mike
28:14
>> Yes, sir.
28:15
>> Can I see some break dancing? Let me see
28:17
you pop a lock. LET'S GO.
28:21
>> YEAH, MIKE.
28:22
COME ON, MIKE. I KNOW YOU GOT SOME
28:24
MOVES.
28:25
>> I ain't got it. That's I'm always
28:27
impressed by you guys. And in
28:29
particular, Hawk, were you ever
28:30
concerned about your neck?
28:32
>> Absolutely, man. Man, I broken both of
28:34
my toes. I had injuries everywhere. You
28:37
know, cuz when your head's spinning, you
28:39
know,
28:40
>> I know. Wow.
28:41
>> The wow factor. Anyways, as your head's
28:43
spinning, it's all in your legs. Your
28:45
legs start giving you momentum. You
28:46
start gaining speed, and then your
28:49
fingertips get red because of the blood
28:50
rushing to your fingertips. You're
28:52
spinning so quick. It's incredible. It's
28:53
the greatest feeling in the world.
28:55
>> Woah, it sound like it.
28:57
>> Gives me a natural high. Oh, yeah. Come
29:00
on, now.
29:00
>> All right. Okay. Uh this is what I want
29:02
to do, man. First of all, thank y'all
29:04
for getting up and coming.
29:05
Congratulations. Big event tonight.
29:07
>> Yes, LA County Fair in Pomona.
29:09
>> Congrats.
29:09
>> That's right. You guys come out. Make
29:11
sure you download the app.
29:12
>> Yes, SKT Network. Go on all devices.
29:16
Amazon Fire TV. Whatever you have,
29:19
download the app. You're not going to
29:20
regret it.
29:20
>> Roc cool.
29:21
>> Roc cool, yeah.
29:22
>> All right. And then, I could be
29:24
performing tonight. Don't forget June
29:25
13th.
29:27
We'll be at the Solano County
29:29
Fairgrounds. I'll be hosting. Slo of
29:31
Axion, Black Sheep, Charlie B Real.
29:34
Um Um
29:36
>> Black Sheep, Charlie B Real,
29:38
>> Supernatural,
29:38
>> Johnny David,
29:39
>> Yeah.
29:40
>> Raquel Ramirez, uh Richard Vina of
29:42
Mallo, we got Tierra, you know, Chicano
29:45
legends, you know, so uh
29:47
and we're we're actually promoting it on
29:49
on my radio show.
29:50
>> Now, Mike I'm not Mike. Um Mike Ick has
29:52
a radio syndicated radio show. See, if
29:54
you notice the team my team, everybody
29:57
does a lot.
29:59
Roc G works for Revolt.
30:01
>> Yep.
30:01
>> What's your title over at Revolt?
30:03
>> Uh so, I manage all the post-production
30:05
operations for all the content coming in
30:06
and out of Revolt.
30:07
>> Roc G's also a promoter. He'll be
30:10
>> I'll be doing Souldies at the LA County
30:12
Fair in Pomona tonight.
30:13
>> He also has his own Twitch show.
30:15
>> twitch.tv at OG Roc G.
30:17
>> He also is our engineer for SKT Network.
30:20
>> Download the app everywhere you can.
30:21
>> Yes, and that's just some of the he
30:23
does, right? Give him a round of
30:25
applause.
30:26
All right.
30:26
>> Impressive.
30:28
>> I was going to say hi to Tiano.
30:30
I'm sorry, man.
30:32
I gave away his whole government name.
30:34
Achi, uh
30:35
Achi, um
30:37
lead singer for Spanish Fly,
30:40
singer for Mallo well.
30:42
>> Yep.
30:43
>> Songwriter.
30:44
>> Yes.
30:45
>> Adriana Padilla.
30:47
>> Adriana Padilla, also I got the the
30:49
ultimate old school radio show on six
30:51
different cities. We play nothing but
30:53
the best in old school funk, doo-wop
30:55
oldies. My co-host, the beautiful Alana
30:58
Rose, you know, to me she's got the the
31:00
best female voice in radio.
31:03
Um so, make sure you tune in every
31:04
Sunday afternoon, six different cities,
31:06
Atlantic City, The Beat in Atlantic
31:07
City.
31:08
Um so, a lot of stuff
31:10
>> A lot of stuff going on, man.
31:11
>> Yes.
31:12
>> And so, what I like to do is end this
31:14
show with you singing one of the songs
31:16
that you always used to sing, um Always
31:19
and Forever.
31:20
>> And this is dedicated to the beautiful
31:22
Alana Rose, the love of my life.
31:37
And Sway's going to sing backgrounds on
31:38
this.
31:44
Always and forever,
31:49
each moment with you
31:54
is just like a dream to me
31:58
that somehow came true.
32:03
And I know tomorrow
32:08
will still be the same
32:12
cuz we've got a life of a love
32:17
that won't ever change.
32:21
>> Every
32:23
day, love me your own special way. Melt
32:30
our hearts
32:32
always with a
32:35
smile.
32:40
Take time to tell me
32:44
you
32:46
really care.
32:49
And we'll
32:50
share tomorrow
32:54
together.
32:56
>> Always, forever
32:59
>> I'll
33:00
always love you.
33:03
Ever
33:08
ever
33:12
loving you.
33:24
>> Always, forever
33:33
Always, forever
33:43
Always, forever
33:52
Always, forever
33:59
>> Forever,
34:01
ever
34:02
>> Always, forever
34:16
>> Oh,
34:26
but
34:38
>> A T Star, ladies and gentlemen. Original
34:41
member of New Kraze and All City Records
34:43
Renegade Rockers. Performing tonight,
34:46
Pomona, come on out.
34:48
>> LA County Fair.
34:49
>> There you go, man. Rodgy, I love you,
34:51
man.
34:52
>> I love you, too, brother.
34:53
>> No, brother.
34:54
>> Yes, absolutely.
34:54
>> No, brother.
34:55
>> Brother, over 20 some years.
34:57
>> Yes, brother. I love you, man.
34:59
>> I love you, too, brother.
34:59
>> Thank you. We building dreams out
35:01
together, man.
35:02
>> Absolutely, still.
35:02
>> Come on. Still doing it. Still. Still,
35:05
right?
35:05
>> Still. SKT Network. Come on.
35:07
>> You already know. SKT Net- DJ Kurse, we
35:10
love you, too, man. Thank you for
35:12
coming, Kurse.
35:13
>> AND WE LOVE SWAY.
35:14
>> YEAH, MAN. HOLD UP. We going to get to
35:15
be DJ Kurse. We love you, brother.
35:18
>> What up? Thank you, everybody. Thank
35:19
you, everybody.
35:19
>> DJ Kurse. Absolutely, man. Brando, we've
35:23
been doing this for decades, brother.
35:25
>> Eastside for life,
35:27
SWAY.
35:28
>> THUMP RECORDS, MAN. Thump is in the
35:30
building, ah.
35:31
>> Yes, we are.
35:31
>> Thank you for this amazing life
35:34
>> I love you, man.
35:34
>> able to craft together. We chased dreams
35:37
together.
35:38
>> You're my brother forever.
35:39
>> Man, you're my brother forever, man. You
35:41
helped get me jobs when I didn't have no
35:43
money.
35:44
UPS was a great job.
35:47
>> Hey, we can always go back and work over
35:49
there.
35:49
>> Yeah, yeah, I know. I've thought about
35:51
it. Um
35:52
Ocean Seafood Products.
35:54
>> Oh, man.
35:55
>> All wonderful the money you've lent me,
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the the times you picked me up, the
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times you dropped me off cuz I didn't
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have a car.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Bro, I'm super proud of you that you
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continued even though we all kind of
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branched off and splintered into
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different directions as Tech and I got
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more into radio and putting out the Wake
36:13
Up Show stuff, you kept going, man. And
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I and I can appreciate you never let go
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to dream and now you living the life you
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crafted for yourself. How many times you
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performing in a year? You love to sing.
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You always have.
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>> And I'll never I'll never forget your
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grandma's house and your grandma.
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>> Yeah, Mama Yasi.
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>> Yeah,
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I I I loved her so much.
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>> Yes, and she loved you, man. They
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thought you was a little different.
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You know, we from Oakland, you from the
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other side of the bay, but I was like,
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"Nah, he's one of us."
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>> Grandma was beautiful lady. I miss her.
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>> Yeah, man. And your mom was a beautiful
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lady. I miss her. I love you both. I
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love you all three of you all four of
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y'all. Thank y'all for coming through
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today. And we got more work to do,
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right? Okay, Octaviana Akistar, ladies
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and gentlemen. AKISTAR.
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>> I LOVE YOU, ROSE. I love you.
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