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How to build a Wireform: AI Designed Alfa Romeo (Episode 6)
AI Alfa Romeo Scratch Build Series:
Episode 5: https://youtu.be/UjhfVy3v7NA?si=ir4bNcDGe3WWbUOw
Episode 4: https://youtu.be/7tqW1T9h-ZE?si=9S0EK_F7ENNg_R20
Episode 3: https://youtu.be/4yMznAPvzUc?si=CZ0kgO_r3qx-oDCq
Episode 2: https://youtu.be/PYjL-wc3nNg?si=Ri6qafYgl01Fy-IZ
Episode 1: https://youtu.be/ZDhw39NwezU?si=aixpztZaRJh4Glac
How to design your own AI Car: https://youtu.be/PG3VM0JxMlE?si=QftZq899Bt7ImHdP
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hi it's Ray from Pro shaper Workshop in
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Charlton Massachusetts we're going to
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get back on the AI alfha Romeo design
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we've got I think uh about 7 hours total
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uh the last one episode five I kept
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referring to the wheelbase is 74 in I
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had a brain fod or something I don't
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know why and it was actually 94 a half I
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knew it was 94 and A2 I had it marked at
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94 but I was referring to it as 74 so
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we decided that 942 was not going to be
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long enough so we made it to 100 in so
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we also uh we've got the 100in wheelbase
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and we had these uh chrome wire wheels
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they're off of a Jaguar actually they're
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bolt on from an
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xj6 I bought a couple xj6s donor cars
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for other projects that we're building
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we got some scabby tires that came with
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it and we cleaned up the The Wire Wheels
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a little bit and that gives you the
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really good visual what we're going to
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try to do today is revise the wires a
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little bit more so we've been living
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with it for you know four or five days
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since the last video we've got a a
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little bit of a program that we want to
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we want to unleash here now so one thing
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I I came to the conclusion is I do have
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this wire a little high so I'm going to
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lower it down and all the wires I've got
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the position marked with tape on these
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upright stanions so I'm going to move
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that down and probably forward a little
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bit because I believe this is supposed
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to be about here and then down about
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that far so that's what I'm going to do
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now is unclamp that and move that around
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all right I moved the line down but I
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haven't moved it forward now I want to
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move it forward I think it looks better
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now
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down
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all right I moved that forward and down
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I put the nose line back on this is the
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fender top of the fender profile and now
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I'm going to pull the uh the center line
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down a little bit and the roof down just
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a little bit more yeah we can cut a lot
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of that extenders off right
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now um because they're they're screwing
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up the view a little bit but you know
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what we need to do is we need a cut out
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of the engine size a Cod wood piece so
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we can put it in there uh because that's
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going to determine where that line is
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that's super important right
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there I right yeah 30 in we'll say
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that's what gives us a little for total
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length and for height we
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have we're going to put uh a different
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setup here we're not going to have this
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uh like that so it'll be a little less
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than that and this is let's call it 28
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it's 27 we'll give it 28 we'll clean up
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the front a little bit we do have the
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belt cover right here it's got lousy
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plastic belt covers on the motor I'm
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make nice aluminum covers so it'll
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really look uh really nice the rest of
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the motor is all aluminum that'll all
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polish up really
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beautifully uh we want nice aluminum
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covers for the
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front so that goes down a little bit say
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here all right so there's our motor
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profile looks like we're covering
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everything we might be a little high
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there which is we we'll see what we what
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it says now on the wi for all right
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there we have it uh that's the rough
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placement of the uh engine
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position I might have to go 3 in forward
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or so or maybe an inch back but I think
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that's pretty close we're going to re
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keep refining that but uh it was uh uh
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28 in we settled on that's the 5 in
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height you can see it down below and it
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fits in there really good there is a
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bubble in the design uh for the
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caburetor clearance or injector
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clearance whatever you're going to use
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so we will have a bubble in the hood at
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some point we don't have to be exactly
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like the pitcher none of it has to be
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exactly like the pitcher um we'll try to
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get it as close as possible but if we
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can make it better than the pitcher uh
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and one of the ways to get it better the
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is a lot of people said it's going to be
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really difficult to get into the car
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because of the row low roof line and way
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you achieve U easy entrance is to bring
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the roof uh bring the door up into the
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roof so we we might incorporate that so
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it comes in about 6 Ines into the roof
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and that allows you to get your head in
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there really easy where I'm at now is I
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kind of like the wires the wires are
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looking more like the sports car intent
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that I want we're still working on
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proportions and the line
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quality and I think if we add a few more
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little details that will reveal that
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much more so a real easy detail that
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will
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reveal would be the uh
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window profile or surround to that uh
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driver's door window so I'm going to see
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if I can model that up in wire and then
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we'll place it in position relative to
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the Mr
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adjustable and um I think that'll tell
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us a good story I think the next thing
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I'm going to do is make that window uh
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outline and that that doesn't too hard
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doesn't look too hard to do and we'll
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put that in position here and that will
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tell us a lot of information so another
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issue we have to face is uh there's
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there's very few cars that are dead
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straight right down the side and we
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we've got a basically a linear
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trajectory here it's pretty straight
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line I tried to move the stanions in a
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little bit so we have to have if you
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have the overhead view you you have to
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have a little roundness like this it
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pulls in towards the tail and it pulls
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in towards the nose a little bit uh and
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and we will we will try that and make
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sure that looks good I'm going to bend
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that bottom line of the window
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first and I'm going to leave it a little
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long in the front we can cut that off
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after I got to put a tight little radius
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right here keep this all on the same
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plane and then I got to come up with
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that angle of that that back
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angle
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so let's see a little bit Moss
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I'll try
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that
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and we won't put the other Bend there
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we're going to make that another wire
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because we we want some adjustment here
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so I'm going to cut this off long so we
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have the adjustment potential we might
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have to adjust the height and we might
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have to adjust the angle a
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little all right so there's a
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preliminary position of that wire uh
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it's longer so it's a little misleading
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if you look at it right now we got to
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put the second wire in and that will
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ground that
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one so I want basically the same angle
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as the windshield I kind of like that
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windshield angle I got now
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and let's
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see so that'll
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be something like
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that so I got to bend it
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about I'll leave that
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long bend it about right there and
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that's got a nice graceful radius there
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it's not too
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tight
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so it's a little weaker radius
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there let me try
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that and then it has a curve on the top
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too it mimics the U the roof curve uh I
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don't see a curve on the front edge so
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we could put a little bit of curve there
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if we needed to so we got to
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get this curve
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on the top
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line a little
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bit I hope some of you uh take the
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challenge and start trying to do a w
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wire form in your own garages as
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well uh and soon as you start doing it
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you're going to be
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mesmerized all right this is our plinary
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placement I think it might be a little
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high uh
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and let's see relative to the
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windshield yeah it's got to come down
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this way and it's C got to go that way
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and down some more going to go backwards
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with it
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some take that one off Mark
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by same thing let's go back
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here and then let's see come down a
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little on this sec
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and I'm liking that the back end has got
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to come down quite a bit the back end of
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the roof I think what we'll
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do is we'll make a new roof line because
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that roof line doesn't have the right
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curve that I want so but I like that
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door opening um it might need a little
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little bit little tweaking still but I
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think that'll work he still can get you
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see the eyes will be able to look out
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the window without being
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obstructed all right we uh we had the
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chrome wire wheels from xj6 on and Bob
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who works for him he says nah they're
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too small they're too
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small so I say okay I have some 120 Jag
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wheels in the back I pull those out and
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we put those in is I have to agree it's
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really definitely an improvement
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so um the theory is that possibly these
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wheels are like 18 in so I don't know if
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this is going to be set in stone the
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16inch wheel so we might even go bigger
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but we're going to cross that bridge a
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little bit later um these are narrow
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tires from the 120 Jag so they'd be
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wider the ones we actually put on but I
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think that height is what we want to
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shoot for as far as the OD of the actual
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Tire all right bent a new roof line it's
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got the curve I need in the
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roof that's about right there so that's
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going to be welded
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in
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what's wrong with that
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line well I had it as a Fastback and I'm
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not so sure that it's going to be a
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Fastback I begin to see the angle of
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that back window is uh pretty much a
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standard Coupe body angle and we'll put
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a little trunk in and then a quick
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ending the back end's going to be small
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relative to the front end and that's the
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I think the really appealing look of it
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so this is going to I'm going to cut
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this and
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uh use this
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wire so this is where the trunk will
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start to bend
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up we got a little bit of curve in the
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back
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glass this is all a
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guesstimate and we'll put that in there
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and see what that looks like all right
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uh um slide it up to wire it the slide
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it up slide it up slide up right right
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about there maybe let's see I like that
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okay are you twisting it a little bit or
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that's
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right
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okay okay let it let it come down just a
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little bit right there
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okay all right that's not bad how I saw
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this though was it literally going down
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like that I didn't see no no because if
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you look at the angle of that back glass
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it's not that
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severe it's not that severe I might have
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loose uh lessened it a little bit right
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I'm not
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sure I just it's it's this that has me
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that's where the trunk is going to start
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it's going to be a little trunk instead
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of a total
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fastb I wasn't too thrilled with the
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fastb look really yeah Frank what do you
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think Mark's a
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genius all right change that roof line I
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got nice little curve on the top of the
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roof um I've kind of gotten rid of the
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sasb back look that was kind of the
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first guesstimate that that it had
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little Fastback I want to put a little
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trunk in it uh that's not set in stone
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yet might change my mind totally on
14:47
that uh I do need to fix this wire in
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the front so I'm going to make a new
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wire and splice it in somewhere on this
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Center Line of that fence Ender wire so
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that'll be the next step all right what
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do we think of
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okay I'm going to make a new wire here
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and splice it in right there we'll still
15:08
clamp it down
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below but uh take this one out I'm going
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to weld this one in
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now to bend this you have to just keep
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SL sliding it bumping it sliding it
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bumping it and you'll end up with a nice
15:32
clean line so let's see what we got
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there
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now
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yeah yeah I'm looking I'm liking that
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right
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now
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so we'll cut that
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off splice that in
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there
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do well I'm off a little bit I'm using
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the comma Dolly here to just pop that up
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a little
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bit all right those are a couple good
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good improvements for tonight and
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tomorrow we'll further refine it it's
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looking pretty good we got a big ass
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nose on there that's what we want maybe
16:38
Pull It in a little bit if it's too much
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the rear end we haven't decided on yet
16:44
uh we got the roof line really close
16:47
it's ready to start putting some
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three-dimensional wires on those
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uh um secondary wires that will give it
16:57
the 3D look we got uh super volunteer
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Charlie here now from Michigan he's uh I
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think this is his sixth trip out here
17:05
last night actually after Mark left one
17:08
of my students um Kevin he had a couple
17:12
good ideas and I I always take a good
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idea if if someone's got a good idea and
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he suggested a few little tweaks and we
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tried them out probably took about 10
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minutes to do all the little tweaks what
17:25
we did was he perceived a little crown
17:29
on this Fender Edge that I didn't see I
17:32
thought it was more straight often times
17:34
they've got a hollow on them uh but he
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said it was crowned and I have to agree
17:39
with him and that helped out a little
17:41
bit so we raised that up we redid the
17:45
location and the angle of this uh driver
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side door window and um we like it now
17:56
better it mimics this line mimics the
17:59
roof line and this is the same same
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angle as the windshield line I think we
18:05
might put a little bit more curve in
18:07
this right here but I'm not going to do
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that right now and uh I did a
18:12
preliminary line last night uh on this
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uh how to design the back end and I I
18:19
had it swooping down and it was going to
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go out for a trunk and Kevin liked the
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Fastback look which we had more
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exaggerated before so we've got it down
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quite smaller than what it was but we
18:32
need to put a gas tank in there and we
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need to have another spare tire in there
18:38
at least in that space I don't know if
18:40
we have enough space right now because
18:42
building a car is packaging all the
18:45
elements in the right spot and having
18:47
enough room for them all so I'm going to
18:50
address that later I'm not going to deal
18:52
with the the design of the rear
18:56
until um I've fleshed out a lot more of
18:59
the design and then I'll get the ideas
19:01
that I need plus I'll look at a few
19:03
other ideas what we want to do right now
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is I'm ready to put some 3D element into
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it uh
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and uh I think what I'm going to be
19:15
doing with that is putting these wheel
19:18
well edges out here and they'll be
19:22
extending off of this profile and I
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might have to move that whole profile in
19:27
a little bit I I'm not sure yet so I've
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got to
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make um these wheel outer wheel well
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edges including going in like that where
19:39
it it hooks on so for the front and for
19:42
the rear so we're going to be doing that
19:44
right
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now as a
19:51
look lovely as the British would say we
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probably can make that in one
19:57
piece now we get something to copy we'll
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see if it works in the back though
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before we do
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it then I need
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[Music]
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to well I probably should make those
20:11
other ones first and then see let's see
20:13
if this works on this back here yeah
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that'll work there so we're going to
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make one of those we made these outside
20:21
edge wheel well
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openings and uh we also had Charlie my
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volunteer from Michigan super volunteer
20:30
Charlie uh made these new stanions up we
20:34
had the old style with the four legs we
20:36
came up with a little three-legged
20:38
style H and I think we made six of them
20:42
going to use two in the front on this
20:44
wheel opening two on that wheel opening
20:46
and two on the Rockers and we have one
20:49
spare I think so this allows us to move
20:52
them for with the back up and down and
20:55
then we have to put the The Wire that's
20:58
going to go in Define The Rocker
21:03
line so he's
21:05
got four of those two for the front two
21:08
for the back that looks good all right
21:11
does that say say by itself yeah you
21:13
want me to put a clamp on it or no no
21:15
that's fine that's good this is a tricky
21:18
po too we got to get this right oh still
21:20
super adjustable
21:21
though
21:23
so we got the height right yeah we got
21:26
good
21:27
height
21:29
and this distance here is looking good
21:32
the distance from this Center Line to
21:35
here we might need to adjust but we
21:37
might not to it might be just right we
21:40
got to do the measurement from here to
21:41
the center line and see what we got for
21:44
total width times
21:50
two
21:52
BL I shut my
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eyes
22:05
all right so that's that
22:17
one all
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right
22:23
now we could put a line from here to
22:26
here so what I did was uh Charlie's
22:29
helping me out a bunch I needed some
22:31
cardboard I can take and just bend the
22:33
wire and kind of fit it in but it's I
22:37
thought it was better just to put the
22:39
cardboard like that and then I freehand
22:41
a line on it cut it with the cordless
22:44
shears and uh I might be off a little
22:47
bit I don't know we'll find out later
22:50
and there'll be a whole procedure of how
22:52
to keep the continuity to the line so
22:55
that um one of the wires is not l low or
22:59
high you have to run a 3/16 wire across
23:03
them all and it'll it'll tell you if
23:06
they if they got to hit all the wires if
23:09
it rocks on one there's a high one if
23:11
there a whole or a low spot that's a low
23:13
one so that'll come a little bit later
23:15
and we'll have to adjust these if if we
23:17
have to so the first wire this is a
23:20
momentous event and creating this wire
23:22
for because now we're actually creating
23:25
the 3D element of it these are just flat
23:28
plane profiles now we're we're creating
23:31
a third dimension so we've got it marked
23:34
off it's going to go right in here this
23:37
has moved a little bit we uh we'll just
23:40
mig weld that in and it'll be very easy
23:43
to undo it or modify it if we need to
23:47
and we've made three wires one for here
23:49
one for here and one for over here we're
23:52
in the process Charlie you can finish up
23:54
those sure you need you need this yes
23:56
sir yeah and um once we get those three
23:59
in then we can take these stanions out
24:03
and that should uh hang by itself we
24:05
might have to put one more wire in but I
24:08
think that'll be pretty good so we'll
24:10
just Mig this in
24:13
now we're marking the top of the wire uh
24:17
with a little bit of tape we'll take
24:19
that off after I think I'll clamp it
24:21
with the copper it's too hot to hold
24:25
your hands nice and steady so
24:29
we'll put the little piece of copper in
24:32
there we might not have to clamp this St
24:35
maybe I can just rest it on there yeah
24:36
that looks like it'll
24:40
work it's a lot easier making this when
24:43
you have a little help
24:45
too uh having Charlie's help is really
24:57
helpful
25:01
and I'm not looking at the uh the fire
25:04
here so all right it looks like it
25:06
turned a little I got to heat it
25:11
up that's not
25:14
bad and this one maybe I clamp that on
25:17
there too that's going to be hot so I'm
25:18
going to let that
25:20
drop that
25:23
drops put this one in
25:27
here
25:38
these clamps are the greatest little
25:39
clamps and they're also the biggest
25:41
pains in the ass
25:43
because they they're never the right
25:46
squeeze they're either too loose or too
25:48
tight too loose too tight
25:53
always I'm going to cut
25:56
my tip off
26:25
yeah this is where the real magic Style
26:28
that's to happen when you start to get
26:29
the
26:30
3D um so far I've probably watching
26:34
grass grow but not really because you've
26:37
seen this thing come alive and this
26:39
design is really starting to pop pretty
26:41
good so if when we start filling in
26:45
where the hood is and connecting where
26:47
the windshield is it's it's going to be
26:50
a really amazing event so you'll see the
26:54
car and of course we're only doing half
26:56
and then we're going to have to copy
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every every one of these wires and
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reproduce it for the other side you have
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to measure between each wire and all
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that it's close measurement it's not
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that hard to do and we'll get pretty
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good symmetry it'll be maybe an eighth
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of an inch off from left to
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right we we'll try to get it as close as
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possible these should be pretty much
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90° I'm I'm off a little bit but that's
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okay
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too when we do make the aluminum panels
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for this um even we take and go to Great
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pains to make sure the wires all have
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this
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continuity uh when we make the panels
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the panel will create its own continuity
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and you'll see how the panel is Flowing
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if there's a low spot in the panel
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that's a mistake if there's a bulge in
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the panel that's a mistake so the panel
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will tell you that's the final Orbiter
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and uh we only got a few more minutes
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Mar's got to get going for the night we
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had budgeted a little extra time tonight
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but things happened and we actually lost
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time so we didn't get as much done as
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we'd hope to do we wanted to get three
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wires in here uh Charlie's feverishly
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working away bending the wires but it
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looks like uh we won't have time Mark
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has got to get on the road so we got
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this one wire in and you can see the
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process and uh I don't think we're going
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to have time to get the second wire in
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this one was over here
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yeah second wire over
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here yeah so this wire is going to go
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over here so we're going to end it right
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here thanks for watching thanks for
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being patient this is going to be a slow
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process but it the reward is going to be
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there it's Ray from Pro shaper Workshop
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in Charlton Massachusetts please tell
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