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Steve Brown on ACE FREHLEY last album that they did together
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I'm sorry for your loss for a freely
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man. Uh God God bless him. God bless
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him. Rest in peace. He was one of the
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best. And uh how was uh
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yeah uh how was working with him and how
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did that whole combination of you of you
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two became uh you know about the about
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his last uh album?
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>> Um well I'd known Ace for you know a
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long long time. Um, you know, I met Ace,
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coinc coincidentally, I met Ace for the
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first time backstage at uh, Skidro
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Bonjovi on the New Jersey tour um, at
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the Metallands Arena when Ace came out.
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I don't know if you remember, Ace came
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out and they did cold jin that night
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with Skid Row and uh, Snake introduced
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you to him in the dressing room and you
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and it was quintessential Ace, you know.
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Snake brought me over. Hey Ace, this is
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my friend Steve. He's in the band
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Trickster. and and Ace just goes, "Hey,
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Steve, how you doing? Great to meet. I'm
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Ace." And it was like I was like, "I
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know who you are, man. You're one of my
1:00
heroes." But um you know, uh over um in
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2022, I believe it was when um when Ace
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started doing his first set of shows
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again after COVID when everybody was
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starting to get back out there.
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>> Um or it might have even been I don't
1:19
know what year it was, but whatever. We
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had just released Tokyo Motorfist Lions
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and that was getting a big buzz around
1:26
the industry. And so we got invited,
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Tokyo Motorfist got invited to open up
1:30
for Ace um at a couple East Coast shows
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and uh a bunch of the guys in his camp
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and espe
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um who used to work for Trickster back
1:41
in the day. They were like, "Man, we got
1:43
to get you hooked up with Ace. You gotta
1:45
work, man." They love that Tokyo
1:46
Motorfist record. They're like, "Ace you
1:48
and Ace would be a great combination."
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So, and then his fiance at the time,
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Lara Cove, who's a dear friend of mine
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and PJ and I, we grew up with her. She's
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a Jersey girl. She grew up a couple
2:00
towns away from us. Um, she was the one
2:03
who said, "Send me the ideas and I'll
2:05
get them to Ace and you know, let's just
2:08
try keep doing this." So, I just came in
2:10
my studio and and as the biggest Kiss
2:12
fan and Ace fan, I was like, "What would
2:15
I want him to do now? like what kind of
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songs would I want him to write and what
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would I want to hear as a fan you know
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most importantly that's you know that's
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what we like to do is be able to hear
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those songs that you know make our make
2:30
our blood boil and so I came down here
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and the first thing I you know worked on
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was uh the idea what became walking on
2:38
the moon and I I sent him a couple ideas
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which were walking on the moon fighting
2:43
for life cherry medicine
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um I I think I had um I think I had some
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constantly cute uh couple other things
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and I sent him I sent him these rough
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you know finished things you know they
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were kind of you know walking on the
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moon had a lot of what's on the record
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and and I sent it to him and about three
3:04
months later I kid you not dude I'm
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getting out of the shower I'm dripping
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wet and my phone rings and I see it and
3:12
phone it says it says Paul Freely and
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I'm like holy Holy [ __ ] he's finally
3:18
calling. And I pick up the phone. He
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goes, "Hey, Steve, what's up? It's Ace."
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He goes, "I listen to these ideas." He
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goes, "This stuff's great." And he goes,
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and then immediately he starts going
3:30
into and Walking on the Moon wasn't
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called Walking on the Moon. It was
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something else. And he was like, "Yeah,
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we're going to change the title. I got
3:37
the hook. It's called Walking on the
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Moon. That's going to be the title of
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the record." Blah blah blah. And he
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talks for like five minutes. And I'm
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just sitting there going, "This is
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awesome." And you know, it was really
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cool because we hadn't even gotten
3:50
together, but already there was a common
3:54
connection. And I could tell he was so
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excited.
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And and then he just goes, he goes,
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"When can you come over?" Because Ace is
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living in Jersey. I'm in New Jersey. He
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lives about 45 minutes away from me. So
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about five days later, I went to his
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house and we finished writing the lyrics
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and the melodies for Walking on the
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Moon. And actually that first day we did
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90% of the vocals that are on there. And
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then later that night after the first
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time we worked together, uh later that
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night he went he went down in the
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studio. He was so excited he couldn't
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sleep that he went down in the studio
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and he wrote the bridge and recorded it
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himself. And then what I had to do was
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cut it up and move it into uh where it
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is now. And basically, you know, that
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first week we had that song done and
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then I did a mix of Walking on the Moon.
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I sent it to the record label Monarch
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Heavy in New York City and they flipped
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out. Everybody flipped out. You know, we
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were sending it to all of our, you know,
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all of our confidants and and
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consiguaries, you know, the lawyers, the
4:59
managers, the agents, and everybody was
5:01
like, "We want that. That's the new
5:04
record." And it was we were off to the
5:06
races. And the next song we cut was
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Fighting for Life, which is Fighting for
5:11
Life, which has become the definitely
5:13
one of the fan favorites from the 10,000
5:15
Bolts record. And you know, it was just
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incredible, you know, it was an
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incredible time and we became so close
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and had so much fun making the record.
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He would come here and work. We would do
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like one day at his house, one day here
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and uh here, man. Here, let me show you.
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Here's a bunch of here's a bunch of the
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hand some of his handwritten lyrics. Wow
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man.
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>> He would always he the first day he came
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here I didn't have any of these legal
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pads and uh he goes Steve you got to go
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to Staples which is the you know like
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stationary store. You got to go to
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Staples and get some pads. So I went out
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and got a bunch. So you know it's just
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incredible man. I mean I I I still I
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still have a hard time believing that
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he's gone. Um and uh you know his
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spirit's here. you know, luckily
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there's, you know, he he graciously gave
6:06
me a couple guitars, you know, when we
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finished the record. He gave me his less
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Paul that we used that that he would
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keep here and he he said, "I want you to
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have this because uh you know uh I know
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we're going to be making a lot more
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music and uh I love you and it was just
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really really incredible." And uh you
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know, we had a lot more music left to
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make and I have a bunch of ideas that
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were going to be on the next record. you
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know, he was working on Origins 3 with
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uh his old engineer, producer, Alex
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Saltzman. Um and and then we were going
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to continue working on what was going to
6:42
be the follow-up for 10,000 Bolts. But
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sadly, that's not to be. So, God bless
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you, Ace. We miss you.
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>> God bless.
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Do you maybe have some uh leftovers of
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of those records that can be re
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released, you know, as new songs? Maybe
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he he recorded with you something else
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besides that, you know, like demos or
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something.
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>> Yeah, I mean, we have some rough stuff,
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some, you know, stuff that wasn't
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finished. Um,
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>> you know, the right after 10,000 Volts
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was released, we were going to do a
7:16
deluxe version that was going to have
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some alternate mixes, you know, like
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>> um we we have different drummers that
7:24
played on songs multiple times, you
7:27
know, so there's different versions of
7:29
songs. So, I have a feeling someday
7:31
that'll get taken care of. You know, the
7:33
estate, you know, Mo'Nique and Janette,
7:35
um, Ace's daughter and his his wife, you
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know, they they have to the estate has
7:40
to take care of it. It's all in legal
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stuff. It's not up to me and it's not up
7:44
to the record label, but I I believe,
7:46
you know, that that at someday in the in
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the next couple years, all the stuff
7:50
that we have will release. I have a live
7:52
record that we recorded in 2024, the
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summer of 2024. uh a multi- camera video
7:59
shoot, you know, from that show that
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hopefully that gets to see the light of
8:04
day. So, there is there is stuff and um
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you know, I'm hoping that uh all of the
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uh all the lawyers play nice in the
8:12
sandbox and we're able to uh get
8:14
everything released properly because Ace
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deserves
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