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Don't Grow Weary But Embrace The Discipline of The Lord
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Feb 19, 2025
Welcome back to our study of the book of Hebrews. In today's session, we're going to be looking at Hebrews 12:5-11, a portion that focuses on how the believer should react to the trials that he or she faces. Again we have to recall the background to this letter. The writer was addressing messianic Jews who were undergoing persecution because of their faith in Christ. In Chapter 11, he had talked about the necessity and the triumph of faith, and in chapter 12, he's going to continue with the same train of thoughts by showing how God works in His children to bring about saving faith.
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hello and uh welcome back to our study
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of the book of hebrews today we're going
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to continue chapter 12 and we're going
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to look at verses 7 to 16. we might not
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look at the entire passage so i'm going
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to try and do my best here so last week
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actually not last week like i guess
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three weeks ago or two weeks ago we
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talked about verses one through four and
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verses one through four where pretty
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much um the continuation of chapter 11
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the chapter that focused on faith and we
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defined what faith is and then we talked
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about the triumph of faith in our last
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um
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study before we opened chapter 12. and
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in chapter 12 um the writer is talking
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about not growing weary and that was the
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title of our study so now um chapter 12
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is pretty much a continuation of his
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strain of thought of the author and in
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this chapter in the first verses he
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talked about having a great cloud of
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weaknesses and we talked about what
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those witnesses were it was the people
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of old that were mentioned in chapter
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11. now in this chapter he's going to
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talk about the discipline of the lord
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and how god brings about faith in his
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saints
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so we talked about
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verses one through four in which we say
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that the writer was telling his readers
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to set aside any weight and the scene
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which uh so cling so easily clings to
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them and the particular scene that he
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was talking about was the scene of
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unbelief because again if you go back to
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the background to this letter uh the
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writer was addressing back on jewish
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believers messianic jews who were being
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persecuted because they put their faith
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in yeshua uh jesus
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and uh the tendency was they wanted to
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go back to the old systems and the
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entire in the entire 11 chapters he kept
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showing them through the scripture
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through the old testament that the old
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system was done with and now that jesus
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had come and said it is finished when he
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breathed his last on the cross that he
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had completely fulfilled uh the the plan
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of god for the salvation of his people
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first the jews and then the gentiles so
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these people have been persecuted
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because the other people were there some
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of the judaizers were still trying to
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get them to like uh hold on to some of
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the traditions
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that were unscriptural you know they
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were cut um i wouldn't say on scripture
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they were practices that they had but
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with the advent of christ things had
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changed
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but some of these people were still
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insisting on doing certain things like
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the sacrificial system that was done
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with because the veil was torn and jesus
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said that he satisfied the wrath of god
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so some of these jewish believers were
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being persecuted and so they were being
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kicked out of the temple some of them we
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know that some of them were killed and
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some of them weren't thrown in jail so
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he talked about in chapter 10 and 11. so
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in chapter 12 that he's going to talk
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about on the struggle and the discipline
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of the lord and how god brings about
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faith in the life of his people so again
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la and two weeks ago we talked about
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looking to jesus keeping our gaze on
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jesus because he was shown in that
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listen the son of god himself went
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through this discipline of the lord so
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today he's going to elaborate on it a
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little more so i'm going to begin and
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i'm going to read verses 7 to 16 and
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maybe we might get to it all of it we
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might not so let me get to the verse
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so hebrews 12 verses 5 through 16 so i'm
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going to get through the verse so the
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scripture says
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and have you forgotten the exaltation
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that addresses your sons
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my son do not regard lightly the
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discipline of the lord
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not be wary when reproved by him for the
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lord discipline the one he loves and
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chastises every son whom he receives
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it is for discipline that you have to
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endure
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god is treating you as sons
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for what son is there whom his father
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does not discipline and if you are left
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without discipline in which all have
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participated
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then you are illegitimate children and
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not sons beside this we've had earthly
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fathers who disciplined us and we
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respected them shall we not much more be
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subject to the father of spirit and
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leave
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for they disciplined us for a short time
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as it seemed best to them but he
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disciplines us for our good that we may
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share his holiness for the moment
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all discipline seems painful rather than
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pleasant but later he yields to peaceful
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fruit of righteousness to those who have
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been trained by it i know that i said i
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wanted to go through verse 16 but i'm
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going to stop at verse 12 because i
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think there's a lot here to unpack so
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we're going to do just 5 through 12
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today all right so let me go to
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my presentation and we're going to talk
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about it so in verses 5 and 6 the writer
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says again he's addressing
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uh
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believers of jewish background and he
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says this
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have you forgotten the exaltation that
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addresses your sons my son do not regard
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lightly the discipline of the lord not
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be wary when reproved by him
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for the lord discipline the one he loves
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and chastises every son whom he receives
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again being given the start of the
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status of the son of god is incredible
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you're not just a servant of god now you
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you um he's referring to them as sons of
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god
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so meaning those people are who are
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indwelled with the spirit of god because
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roman tells us that the one that does
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not have the spirit of god is not the
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son of god so to to be called and
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referred to as the son of god shows that
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they belong to the house of god they
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have god's spirit
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living in them that is incredible so
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they just at the outset i wanted to set
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that straight to be called the son of
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god is a privilege we are not just
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servant he is telling these people
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have you forgotten the exaltation that
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addresses your sons they are now called
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sons of god and that comes with
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something being a son of god is a
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privilege because that means that you
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are you are you now belong you you you
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have an inheritance okay and you belong
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to the house of god you have god's
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spirit living in you so he's telling his
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readers that
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now to encourage his readers he quotes
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uh proverbs 3 verses 11 to 12. these are
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verses from proverbs chapter 3. again
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the persecution they were facing was not
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without a purpose god
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doesn't submit his children to testing
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because he enjoys watching them struggle
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that's not the case
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but what why do you think the writer is
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uh quoting proverbs uh 3 verses 11 and
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12. there's a purpose to it he's trying
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to tell them listen god does not just
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submit you to these things for nothing
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there is a purpose and if you look at
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proverbs chapter 3 verse 11 to 12 i like
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how he reads in the amplified version
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let's listen to it
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the scripture says my son
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do not despise or shrink from the
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chastening of the lord his correction by
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punishment or by subjection to suffering
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or trial
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neither be wary or impatient about or
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loathe or abhor his reproof for whom the
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lord loves he corrects even as a father
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corrects the son in whom he delights now
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i want to say something quick here now
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son does not just mean that it's a boy
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or a male okay so you could have choose
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the word child here a child of god so
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because i don't want
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girls to feel like they don't belong
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here my son is
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this is like genderless here it refers
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to both male and females at the same
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time
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now so
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first like the original readers they
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needed to understand that god
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loved them and as a result of his love
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he allowed the persecution for a
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specific purpose that's very important
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they needed to understand that god loved
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them he called them his
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sons
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and daughters or his children so there
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was a purpose to it
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it was god's way of disciplining them or
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training them and and us as well
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god's way of disciplining us is allowing
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sometimes
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hard things to happen in our lives
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because through them we learn how to
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lean on god
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so let's not forget what the writer
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already mentioned that jesus the only
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the only begotten son of god he himself
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what
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underwent persecution
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he went through persecution the
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discipline of the lord again the
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persecution
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again the persecution is from
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enemies of god they persecute the people
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of god but god uses that persecution as
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a way to discipline his own children
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so if you go back to hebrews chapter 7
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and chapter 5 verse 7 to 9. listen to
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what the scripture says
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in the days of his flesh
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referring to jesus
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he offered up definite and special
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petitions petitions for that which he
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not only wanted but needed and
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supplications with strong crying and
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tears to him was always able to save him
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out from death and he was hurt because
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of his reverence toward god his holy
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fear his piety in that he shrank from
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the horrors of separation from the
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bright presence of the father again i'm
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going to read that version in
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in the esv to to give you a better
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understanding what it means here
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in hebrews chapter 5 verse 7 to 9. i
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want to quote this because i believe is
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important
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listen to what the esv says in the days
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of his flesh
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jesus offered our prayers and
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supplications with loud cries and tears
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to him who was able to save him from
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death and he was heard because of his
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reverence although he was his son
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he learned obedience through what he
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suffered and being made perfect he
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became the source of eternal salvation
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to all who obey him
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so what do we learn from this
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so basically jesus learned active and
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special obedience through what he
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suffered right and we are talking about
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the discipline of the lord so basically
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although jesus was the ultimate son of
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god
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the begotten son of god he was one with
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the father of the same substance
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he learned obedience through what he
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suffered let me say that again he
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learned obedience through what he
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suffered you see like jesus was sinless
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righteous and holy from birth the virgin
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birth right but when he took upon a
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human nature
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god the father submitted jesus to trials
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in order that he could fully identify
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with our weaknesses the weaknesses of
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his people the jew first and then the
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gentiles
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so that he could understand the human
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experience again remember first thing
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when jesus came on earth he came for the
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people of god the israelites he says i
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only came for the house of israel now
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the gentiles me you if you're a gentile
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if you know the jew we were grafted in
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so the first thing he did so he came for
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the jewish people and then the gentiles
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were also accepted so he took upon our
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human nature so when he took upon our
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human nature through the discipline
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through the things that he went through
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he learned how to obey and do his
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father's will in the flesh as a human so
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that he could become what a merciful
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high priest in service to god see god
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brought witness about jesus that he was
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his beloved son in the gospels god said
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it right yet that allowed him to undergo
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sufferings i want you to listen to that
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again
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god himself brought witness about jesus
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that he was his beloved son if you go to
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matthew and mark is recorded this is a
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this is my beloved son in whom i'm well
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pleased and he tells his disciples later
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listen to him right but even though
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jesus was the son of god
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he also underwent sufferings
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and we read in james one verse one
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through three
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count it all joy my brothers when you
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meet trials of various kinds for you
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know that the testing of your faith
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produces what steadfastness or
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perseverance and let steadfastness have
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its full effect that you may be perfect
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and complete lacking in nothing
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see
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jesus the ultimate son of god underwent
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it you and i are not even holy
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i mean we know we are declared holy
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before god but we are still being
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sanctified so the discipline of the lord
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for is for is for a purpose
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is to make us into the likeness of jesus
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he learned obedience to what he suffered
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so he could understand the human
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experience and because of that
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he is able to to say to the utmost those
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who are being wet sanctified
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so we ourselves are also going to go to
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to go through the hard times because god
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uses those to discipline us to train us
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onto righteousness we're going to see
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that later so after being saved
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god has to completely do what we shape
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our mindset and our thinking and he
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often does so through what
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trials that we face
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and at the basis of the discipline we
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need to remember that at the basis of
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the discipline of the lord
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is the love of god because he loves he
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allows us to be disciplined this is what
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the right the writer is trying to
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communicate because god loves his
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children and because god loves his
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righteousness he has to discipline us so
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that we may share in his holiness see
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that's the key
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the writer he wanted his hearers his
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heiress to understand that the
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persecution
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was deeply rooted in the love of god
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because god loved them he allowed the
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persecution for the sake of what
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training them and reshaping them through
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it it is tough to understand because
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most people
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who think and i'm sure the original
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readers thought to themself if god loves
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us why are we struggling so much i've
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heard that and i've said it myself man
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this is hard to become to be a christian
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because god the minute we become
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believers
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we cross the road from what darkness to
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light and we become enemies of who satan
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so now god is working his salvation
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through us by sanctifying us and the
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sanctification process includes those
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trials
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okay
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so they
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those people that were first heard the
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message
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they ought to think uh differently about
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suffering we should rather say i am glad
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through this because it is a sure sign
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that i belong to god so persecution
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being persecuted as a christian
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struggling as a christian is a good
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thing
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i mean i don't desire that but it's a
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good thing because god shows by that
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that we belong to him
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okay and proverbs 3 12 says
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for whom the lord loves he does what he
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corrects even as a father corrects the
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son in whom he delights
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we discipline our children because we
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love and delight in them and want to see
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them do that which is right i discipline
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my sons because i want them to do what
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is right
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i want i won't let them get away with
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stuff and sometimes they go through hard
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times and i can save them out of it but
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i want because i want i made i want them
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to learn something out of it
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and god who far exceed us in wisdom
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knows why he allows things in our life
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the scripture tells us that he will not
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let us be tried beyond our ability
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but with every temptation he makes he
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makes a way of escape so the discipline
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of the lord is because he loves us not
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because he wants to make our life
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miserable no it's because he loves us so
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we need to understand that okay and the
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writer was addressing people that needed
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they needed that because they were going
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through it they needed to hear those
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words
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they were being persecuted it was not a
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joke
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now in verse 7 through 11 we read the
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following
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it is it is for discipline that you have
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to endure
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god is treating you as sons for what son
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is there from whom whom his father does
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not discipline
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and if you are left without discipline
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in which all have participated then you
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are illegitimate children and not sons
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besides this we've had earthly fathers
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who disciplined us and we respected him
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shall we not much more be subject to the
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father of spirit and leave
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for they disciplined us for a short time
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as it seemed best to them but he
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disciplines us for our good that we may
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share his holiness for the moment
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all discipline seems painful rather than
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pleasant but later he yields to the
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peaceful fruit of righteousness to those
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who have been trained by it
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see the writer tells his readers and you
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and i today that we have to endure the
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discipline of the lord because endurance
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carries the idea of what long suffering
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it's like a marathon it's not like a
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sprint it's it's like a grinding you
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know long-term stuff okay so we have to
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remember that the original readers
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they were being subject to what
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persecution for a long time it wasn't
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something that was just happened in like
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two weeks and stopped now it was a long
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time persecution they were being
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persecuted it was constant
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so he might have seemed to them as if it
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was never going to end
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so it is god who decides when the
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training is completed
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we don't decide that so god is the one
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that does the training he decides when
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this persecution is going to be done or
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when our trials are going to end
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so job's trials they lasted what a long
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time but eventually they came to an end
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so in the meantime he had to do what
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endure
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so the writer is saying that being
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disciplined by god is synonymous
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of with being accepted as a legitimate
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child of god let me repeat that again
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being disciplined by god
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means
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that we are accepted as legitimate
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children so he's telling his readers
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listen you guys it is a good sign that
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you've been
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you're being disciplined because god is
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treating you as sons
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so
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again it's hard but it's good news
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and then the writer uses human fathers
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as an example
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see i said father it is not my job or
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duty to discipline somebody else's child
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i only discipline my three sons because
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they are my they are mine okay they are
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my legitimate children
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i may try to discipline somebody else's
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child but not with the same intensity
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and fervor like my own children so in
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the same way
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the writer is saying that
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god only disciplines those he regards as
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his children
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and there is a principle to learn here
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if one claims to be a child of god
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while indulging in sin and apparently
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getting away with it i think that person
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ought to examine
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themselves to make sure that they are in
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the faith let me say that again
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there's a strong principle that we need
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to learn here if you claim to be a child
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of god and you indulge in sin
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and you get away with it i think you
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need to ask yourself am i really a child
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of god because god will discipline his
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children if you're going through you
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living
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in open rebellion claiming oh yeah i'm a
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child of god i go to church i'm a
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christian
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you're not getting disciplined i say ask
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yourself am i truly a child of god
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because the scripture tells us
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god
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disciplines his sons and daughters right
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because the enemy of our soul
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will not be our adversary if we are on
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his side okay so if you are getting away
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with stuff maybe you're on the side of
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satan i just say just ask yourself
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so i'm not just i'm not saying do you go
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look for trouble or go look for
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persecution or trials
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but as believers those trials will come
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organically they're going to happen
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because god is in the process of doing
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what
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doing away with the junk that we've
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accumulated in the flesh the sinful
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nature of all our lives so and the
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writer uses another example to drive his
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point he says to his readers that their
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human fathers discipline them and while
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they may have they may have not liked
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the discipline of the discipline at
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first they eventually did what they
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respected their earthly fathers because
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it showed that their fathers their
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fathers really cared and loved them so
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that's the the same principle because
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he's trying to drive his point so that
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his readers understand
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okay so and he connects this idea to god
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he's basically saying that
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our fathers were partly like responsible
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for our existence
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for our physical existence okay because
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my dad and my mom were intimate and then
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i came
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i was a product of that relationship the
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intimacy right so
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they were the fathers that
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of our natural body this body right
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and they had to ensure that what what we
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did
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and what they cons and what
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they had to make sure
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that uh we did what they considered good
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in their own site like my dad discipline
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disciplined me according to his own
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understanding he felt like this is how
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i'm going to discipline taipe
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so the writer is saying the same thing
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here he said god god on the other hand
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is the author of our spiritual at birth
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the same way my father my earthly father
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is is the author of my natural birth
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god is the father of my spiritual birth
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as recorded in john 1 verse 12 to 13
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listen to what the scripture says
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but to all who did receive him we
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believed in his name he gave the right
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to become what
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children of god
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we were born
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not of blood
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nor of the will of the flesh
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not of the will of man but of god so god
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was responsible for our spiritual birth
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so because of that
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because god is the author of our new
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birth the one that actually matters the
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most he is also responsible for our
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upbringing in this new birth let me say
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that again
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because god is the author of our
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physical of our new spiritual birth he's
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also responsible for our uh for our
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upbringing in this new breath so god
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ensures that we do what is right in his
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sight why so that we may leave so that
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we may have eternal life this is so
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important and verse 10 is like dynamite
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see our human fathers only discipline us
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for a short time
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so i left my house officially when i was
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like 19. i left and i went you know like
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school and all that stuff so i could say
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with confidence that my every father
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never disciplined me once i was on my
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own he never really did any more
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discipline i mean he and i still talked
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and stuff like that but as far as like
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disciplining me and i was done with
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so he just called me a few times but the
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official training and discipline was
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over
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on the other hand
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while we are still on earth
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god who's the author and father of our
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spiritual birth continues his work until
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we breathe our last so his discipline on
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this side of eternity
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never ends until we reach perfection
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when we leave either by death or when
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jesus comes back and we are clothed with
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what the imperishable
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right so verse 10 also informs us
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informs the readers about the end
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purpose of the discipline of god in
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verse 10
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what's the end purpose of the discipline
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of god
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holy ness
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holy ness
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see a lot of people think
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now we are under grace so therefore we
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can do whatever we want no no no
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god sent his spirit in our lives so that
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we can do what do
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the works of the law the law of god
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still matters much
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see i can't stress this enough in our
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day and age where the love of god has
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been perverted see hebrews 12 tells us
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that god
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discipline those he loves for the sake
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of holiness yet preachers
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paint a picture of the love of god that
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is distorted
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you know you go to churches and they
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tell you that god loves you yeah he
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loves you he you know it doesn't matter
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what you've done it does matter
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what you've done does matter because
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because of you and because of me
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jesus was nailed on the cross so do you
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think
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jesus died for your sins and my sins so
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that we can indulge in sin still no
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he came so that we may have life and
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life more abundantly because now he has
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written his laws on our heart so that we
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may obey the work of god we will obey
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the word of god we may do the law of god
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the spirit of god in you loves the law
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of god
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so listen to what he says in verse 11
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that's also dynamite he says that for
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the moment
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all discipline seems painful rather than
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pleasant but later
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he yields to the peaceful fruit of
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righteousness to those who have been
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trained by it
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right this is why so basically at first
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the discipline is not pleasant
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but he's saying look what happens later
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he yield and leads to a harvest for
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righteousness
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only to those who have been trained by
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those who have received the discipline
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say yes
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i need to be disciplined by my father
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this is why the writer
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told his readers
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not to despise the discipline of the
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lord
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his and purpose is what righteousness
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and holiness and being used by god see
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to experience god
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personal holiness is required and
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foundational
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you can't experience god without those
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two things
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so so for us to be vessels he has to set
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us apart hence the discipline to read us
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of the things of the old nature
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so you are
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as a child of god you ought to embrace
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the discipline of the lord he's telling
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his people
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because the end purpose is what holiness
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that we may share his holiness
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he's making us like him like father like
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son
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so this is basically what god is doing
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in in the life of his people
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because
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that's important
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and i'm gonna take on maybe verse 12 and
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then we're gonna stop after that
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um actually
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i don't want to take on verse 12. i
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think we're going to do that next week
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we're going to do 12 to 16 but today
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basically what we need to learn is that
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for the the the people that were hearing
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this verse he was basically telling them
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listen don't despise the persecution yes
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it is hard
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yes it is troublesome yes it is painful
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but god is using this to mold your
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character he wants you to be like him he
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wants you to share in his holiness and
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he gives the example of jesus who even
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though he was sinless he himself
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underwent the discipline of the lord so
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that he can identify with our sinful
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nature he can identify with it not not
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being sinful but he can identify with
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our human nature the things that we face
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so he can understand how to obey god and
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teach us how to obey because he lived
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the perfect life that you and i can
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leave
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and now because he's done that and died
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for our sins he has equipped us through
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the spirit of god sent by god
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so that we can do the same thing
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so he's telling them
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don't give up don't grow weary continue
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to push forward only by the spirit of
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god
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so i hope that this helps you and we're
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going to pick up verse 12 to 16 next
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week okay so have a wonderful day and
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i'll see you next sunday thank you