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Indiana Basketball Postgame Wrap-Up Show vs. Louisville (Battle 4 Atlantis)
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Nov 28, 2024
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all right welcome in to another whoer
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Illustrated dcom postgame wrap-up show
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this one basketball edition of course
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Bahamas edition Battle for Atlanta's
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Edition here to react to man I don't
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even really know where to begin with
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this Kyler hooers lose 89 to 61 to
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Louisville in their opening game of the
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battle for Atlantis and and really it
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was a game that when you look at the
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score 89 to 61 that's a lot closer than
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the game actually felt from about Midway
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through the first half on this is a game
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that Louisville was in total command of
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it seemed like and it honestly felt like
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they won this game by 40 or 50 points
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and maybe that's an exaggeration to an
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extent but Indiana didn't look like they
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were prepared in any way shape or form
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for the different things that Louisville
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threw at them throughout the game
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whether it be their perimeter shooting
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whether it be their Pace uh so many
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different things and Indiana got exposed
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pretty much on every front today and
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probably without a doubt the not only is
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this the worst performance of the season
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so far for the hooers but you could go
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back to probably the Auburn game of last
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year in my opinion and say this is the
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worst performance we've seen from an
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Indiana team since that moment which is
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again about a year
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ago bad very bad um by all accounts just
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wasn't it's just a game that you could
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tell like you know I would say Indiana
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had good intentions to start off the
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game I would say but when you look at
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what Louisville was doing from a
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defensive standpoint and then how their
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defense the physicality that they played
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with would turn into the offense Indiana
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was just out toughed I don't know if
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that's the correct terminology but they
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were just Louisville's just tougher
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today at all areas of the of the floor
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yeah Indiana out rebounded him 40 to 35
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same time you also look at how many
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shots that Louisville got at the
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perimeter when that's their strength
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that's what exactly they do and that's
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the first thing you look at when you
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look on a scouting report Louisville is
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a good three-point shooting team they
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shoot a lot of three-pointers you have
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to guard the perimeter Indiana wasn't
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doing that at all and what really
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frustrated me a lot of times is you know
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Indiana we talked about it on your show
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we've been talking about it for months
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now Indiana was going to have the size
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Advantage when it comes to this
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defensively there was no help from the
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front court at all so when you got a guy
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like Chucky heurn who played phenomenal
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by the way I'm going to give him all the
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flowers because he was the MVP of this
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game 16 points seven of 10 he had a 10
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assist too so he had a double double
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phenomenal but him taking miles rice off
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the dribble Kanan Carl off the dribble
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whoever the perimeter guy was and there
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being no help from Umar balow Malik Renu
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that's just embarrassing and it's just
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lack of communication but yeah I would
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say I mean it's just one of those things
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where okay Indiana goes into halftime
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you're like okay they're down eight that
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was really bad it can't get much worse
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the complete opposite of this game it
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got way worse than what it needed to and
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it's just embarrassing because
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Louisville yes they're a good team power
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Conference Team they're an average team
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I think at best I don't think they're
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going to be a ranked team I don't think
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they're gonna be a top 10 team or
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anything like that and you just got beat
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by nearly 30 points by them on a neutral
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site floor where you've got you know
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half Indiana fans half Louisville fans
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and you got Indiana fans that are
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desperate for this team to show up in
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big situations and that's what you do a
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lot of it goes on Mike Woodson it just
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does and I've been a guy that's defended
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Mike Woodson you know for long time yeah
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it's just you know I I have an idea or a
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uh um I I just I believe that you know a
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coach can only do so much it comes down
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to the players the players today other
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than Malik renew I mean I say Malik Ru
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was probably the only guy that came out
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ready to play when your guards only
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score a combin three points that's
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pathetic and it just can't happen and
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you're not going to be a Louisville team
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when uh when you're front court and your
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perimeter guys are battling and your
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guards aren't doing anything that's what
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we saw last year and the end didn't win
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very many games because of that but just
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overall I embarrassing at all levels
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there's no good takeaways to come of
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that other than Malik renew's
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performance that's exactly what I'll
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I'll leave it at you had the chance to
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ask Mike Woodson about just kind of
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moving on from this when you have two
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games names remaining in back-to-back
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days what was the response he gave you
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to that yeah I I asked him basically
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like you know in these type of
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environments games especially when you
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get blown out like this what do you tell
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your team basically you know moving on
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to the next game forget about this one
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he said basically it's like you know as
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a coach you know I gotta tell them hey
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we we we gotta focus on the next game
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that's GNA be the loser of Gonzaga and
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West Virginia that's who you got to
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focus on and then Mike Woodson also gave
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a pretty good answer about I'm not going
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to let them forget about this game
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because I I I think that is a good
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answer don't let them forget about this
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game you know long term or whatever
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because it's embarrassing you know these
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type of embarrassments you do want to
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remember to a certain extent because you
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never want to feel this way again and I
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can promise you right now you know Malik
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renew was with uh Mike Woodson and you
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know when Mike Woodson said you know we
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weren't we we were out Ted we were
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outplayed and stuff like that Malik Renu
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is just over there shaking his head like
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just agreeing with everything because
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it's absolutely true and
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you know for these types of games the
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good thing is about this tournament
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these types of tournaments they have a
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game tomorrow they have a chance to not
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really correct themselves but you know
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take a less take a less amount of heat
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than it would well you can put it behind
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you a lot quicker than if you had a week
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off between games so let's say they're
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probably you know obviously Gonzaga uh
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West Virginia playing right now I'm
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going to go ahead and say that they're
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probably going to play West Virginia
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they have a chance to really bounce back
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in that type of sense put on a good
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showing and just hopefully you think
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it's kind of a one-off but I think long
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term when you look at this I hope to God
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that this is the wakeup call that
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Indiana needs this team is very very
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talented there's no question about that
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very very talented but they have not
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earned the right to play as cool as what
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they do and they need to learn um a hard
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lesson and I think today was an
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extremely hard lesson for them and you
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hope that it wakes them up to know that
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I don't want to play like this ever
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again because a program like Indiana the
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fans are desperate for this type of you
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know good outings and stuff and there's
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been multiple big showcases where
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Indiana's been on this since Mike
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Wilson's taken over and they've gotten
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blown out in every single one of them so
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it's time for them to kind of wake up
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here they have a chance tomorrow whoever
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their opponent is to kind of correct
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themselves and I will say I I know Mike
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Woodson was already by many considered
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to be on uh you know a pretty hot seat
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coming into the year and I think
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rightfully so even though I I could see
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the push back on on why maybe you
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wouldn't think so as well but this did
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not do him any favors when you when you
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put in a performance and really could
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say lack thereof a performance right
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based on the fact that I mean just
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watching the game you could see from the
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moments that I mentioned earlier
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basically from the second half onward
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just the lack of effort there was again
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like you said Malik renew it seemed like
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he was the only player out there who was
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putting forth any sort of effort
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whenever the game was it and I know I
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feel like I'm bouncing from one thing to
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another but what was going on with with
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like Trey Galloway and the guards why
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was that seemed like they were just so
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flustered they didn't know what
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Louisville was going to throw at them
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from uh a defensive standpoint I'm
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talking about Louisville's defense of
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course and and they had no response to
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anything do you think this ultimately
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comes down is it and I know it's a
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little bit of both but would you put
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more of the blame on on on player effort
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specifically or does that stem even
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further specifically to Woodson for that
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so I think my answer here I did kind of
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think about this a little bit I think my
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answer here I'm going to go with
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execution as far as the problem for
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Indiana I like I said at the beginning
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of this I think Indiana had good
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intentions to start off I I think they
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did but I I think when Louisville threw
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that punch and you know Chucky hurn and
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their guards keep in mind they were out
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they were I think one of their better
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guards was out today as well so like
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they were already short in that area I
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think they threw the first punch and
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Indiana just didn't know how to respond
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it is frustrating because we've seen it
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a little bit with Miles rice and Kanan
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Carlile those guys are younger players
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um the moment has gotten a little bit
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too big for them at times you've seen
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throughout this season this is a very
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very short season so far but guys like
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Trey Galloway he's just got to be better
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than that he's got to be so much better
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than that and he can't let the moment
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you know get too big for him or whatever
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Indiana was just flustered in so many
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ways and you know Malik renew I got to
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give it to him because the past two
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years when Indiana's been bad in certain
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ways Malik Ru seems like to be the guy
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that's almost the there's been a game or
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two where he's not but almost the
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constant of this team he's ready to play
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and I don't think he deserves any hate
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or anything towards that because he does
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make mistakes he does let you know the
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game kind of dictate him just a little
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bit but that dude comes to play and he
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plays his hard he plays his ass off
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really and and when you have guards like
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that I I think if Indiana's guards were
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better today this game's a lot closer
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not saying any's GNA win because I just
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think Louisville wanted it more at the
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end of the day they just wanted it more
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and that's what and this was kind of
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their their coming out party of sorts
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they got boat raced just like they did
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to Indiana today by the the same
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Tennessee team that Indiana beat on the
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road in an exhibition game and so this
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was kind of their moment to you know
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they've been in the cellar for the past
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two years under Kenny pay and now
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they've got this whole brand new
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revamped Team new coach new staff new
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roster literally everything built from
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the ground up and you get to have a
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Moment Like This against a team that was
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perceived to be really good currently
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ranked 14th of course that won't be the
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case come uh come next week uh but this
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was a program propelling move for them
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and when you're somebody like Indiana
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you compare yourself to the Louisville
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and the Kies a lot you don't want to see
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a program that has been down in the
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dumps making moves to advance themselves
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further when it feels like you've been
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stagnant for the last couple of years am
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I making sense when I say that yeah no
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it makes total sense because yes when
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you have a new coach and a new coach
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comes in you're looking for that Marquee
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win right off the bat right you're
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looking for that one to be like okay
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like because Pat Kelce we use Pat Kelce
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and Mark Pope as perfect examples
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they're saying all the right things
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right now for their fan base and that's
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exactly how it is with every single fan
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base you go back to Mike Woodson even
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Archie Miller Archie Miller Mike Woodson
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at the beginning of their ten years say
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the right things to get you going get
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the fan base going and all it just needs
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a big win that big win for Indiana was
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versus Purdue got everything going today
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lille's big win was against Indiana and
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it does suck you know it comes at their
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expense but you know it it's one of
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those things that's just going to happen
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and they're going to build off of this
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they're going to have a lot of momentum
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moving forward for this um for this
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battle for Atlanta tournament now and it
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doesn't matter who they play because
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they're gonna have the fans they're
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going to have everybody riled up and
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that's going to be a big factor with
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this but the last thing I really just
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want to say we've said a lot of negative
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things today the one positive about this
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too and I think a lot of Indiana fans
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that listen to this can understand this
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Indiana went to Maui in 2016 2015 was
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terrible turned it around that's true I
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actually mentioned that on the show the
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other day yeah turned it around and
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ended up winning the Big 10 championship
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this Indiana team this year has a lot of
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work to do they absolutely do but if you
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expect this Indiana team to be at full
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form you definitely are 100% correct you
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should have expected way more today than
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what they showed I'm not arguing that
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but this team has a lot of work to do
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and luckily it's the end of November and
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there's a whole another month before
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conference really starts and they have a
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chance to correct them M themselves I
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hope that they take this game as a wake
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up call because they absolutely need it
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and that is true and we and you've
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already you mentioned earlier and I I'll
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be quick about this so we can wrap this
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thing up you already mentioned the
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you're you've pretty much lost the
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opportunity to to play against a team
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like Gonzaga and I'm actually while I'm
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thinking about it I do want to check on
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that score because I know that's being
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played right now it is a close game at
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at the time of this recording it's 2723
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in favor of Gonzaga with five minutes
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left in the first half so I mean it's
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not necessarily a guaranteed Victory
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it's just assumed it's going to be
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Gonzaga who moves on but if you do end
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up playing in West Virginia and then
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maybe you know a Davidson or a
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Providence or an Oklahoma whatever it
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may be in that third game your your net
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rating your your opportunity to you know
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create some some barrier between you and
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and making you know I guess having some
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leeway and getting in into the NCAA
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tournament that's going to be a little
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bit more difficult but again though I do
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want to build off of what you said it is
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still early and I'm not trying to make
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an excuse for Mike Woodson because what
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happened on the floor today is an excuse
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able your team should be more prepared
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to play against an opponent with the
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caliber of Louisville and they weren't
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ready for that today but at the same
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time there is a ton of season left that
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we've seen Mike Woodson coached teams be
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streaky at times they figure things out
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and then they they they put together
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four or five games where they look
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really good the the task for Mike
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Woodson for the rest of the year is
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going to be finding more consistency
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with results like that and of course and
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kind of kind of similar to what Pat Kel
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did with Louisville you're trying to
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figure out how all these new pieces work
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for you as well again not the exact same
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situation because again they built their
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roster up from literally nothing Mike
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Woodson was just fitting in some filling
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in a lot of holes that he had to deal
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with over the off season um but there is
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still time to figure it out but at the
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moment it doesn't look good and I think
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that's where we stand right now Kyler it
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starts tomorrow starts tomorrow doesn't
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matter who you play take care of
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business you have to win these next two
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games regardless who your opponent is
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you have to figure out a way guards got
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to be way better tomorrow the coaching
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staff's got to be way better tomorrow
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they have to be ready to play because
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being embarrassed like this on a
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national stage the first game of battle
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for Atlantis like that not good not good
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at all it has to be a wakeup call starts
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tomorrow that's all I can say follow
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along with Kyler Staley on Twitter or X
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Kyler Staley he he's got all sorts of
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stuff coming to you for whoer
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Illustrated domcom over the next couple
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of days I don't believe at least at the
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moment we don't have a postgame wrap-up
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scheduled for tomorrow just because it
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is Thanksgiving uh and you know there
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are some issues that come with you know
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people's schedules when it comes to that
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type of thing but we may or may not have
14:40
something for you if not we will try our
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very best to have something for Friday
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for the finale of the battle for Atlanta
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I will have another episode of in touch
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with Indiana Sports coming out on Friday
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uh preview the bucket game with Mr Derek
14:53
Jackson former Bill mallerie football
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player and we'll we'll talk more about
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what's been going on with Indiana
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basketball hopefully it's more more good
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news uh rather than bad news by the time
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we get things released on Friday so
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until then this has been another edition
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of The hooer Illustrated dcom postgame
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wrapup show for Kyler Staley and myself
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