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Welcome to Adaptable | Behavior Explained! In this video, a licensed therapist shares professional insights on Pixar's Inside Out, exploring the film's portrayal of emotions and mental health. Through the characters Joy, Sadness, Anger, Fear, and Disgust, the movie presents a thoughtful depiction of how we manage emotions in real life. Learn how the film reflects key concepts in psychology, emotional intelligence, and child development, and discover practical takeaways about understanding and validating your own feelings. Whether you're a fan of the movie or interested in mental health, this discussion offers a fresh, therapeutic perspective on the emotional journey we all experience.
I'm Kelly O'Horo, Attachment based EMDR Therapist, EMDRIA Consultant, and Advanced Trainer. I'm a mom of 5, Nonna of 5, wife, and a healer. I have the honor of spending my workdays walking along side people while they brave their healing journeys. I try to live with the generous assumption that we're all doing the best we can with what we know. Therapists are teachers for the "life stuff" and "emotional vocabulary" that may not have been learned due to gaps in our care givers capabilities. In the last 15 years I've learned that people are freaking amazing, resilient, and inspiring. Most importantly, we are hardwired for connection and for healing!
I hope to bring an authentic, compassionate, and unpolished approach while we explore a variety of topics such as parenting, marriage, relationships, dating, trauma, attachment, adoption, depression, addiction, anxiety, and love! There's a why for all behaviors and an explanation that makes perfect sense as emotion is at the root of it all.
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hi everyone I'm Kell ooro and this is
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adaptable Behavior explained hi there
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thanks so much for tuning in to
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adaptable today I'm going to talk a
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little bit about the emotions and mental
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health and what we can learn from the
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movie Inside Out after watching inside
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out to I just knew I had to do a show
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about this and so um I think that
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there's so much we can learn and we can
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gain and I'm I couldn't be happier with
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Disney for putting this out do you ever
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look at someone and wonder what is going
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on inside their head did you guys pick
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up on that sure did something's wrong
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we're going to find out what's happening
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and not just part one but part part two
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because it continues to discuss the
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evolution of how our emotions and our
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mental health just are such key factors
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in in the behavior of us as human beings
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and they do a brilliant job with their
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writing having two um renowned
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psychologists on their writing staff to
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make sure they get it right and I was so
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excited about what the movie has done
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not just for society but for as a mental
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health practice uh you know we are able
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to ask our clients to watch the movies
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to help them prepare for starting the
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therapeutic process and the therapeutic
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experience and so I thought I'd bring to
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you some of the the things that I've
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gleaned from watching the show and and
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maybe help you to find more information
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about your own emotional experience and
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your own mental health this is so
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important to me because um like I said
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we use it every day but emotions are the
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building blocks of everything that we've
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ever done and uh it it guides and
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predicts everything that we do as far as
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our Behavior goes and this movie does
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such a brilliant job of discussing that
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Riley I do not like this new attitude oh
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I'll show you attitude over no no no no
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bre what is your problem just leave me
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alone sir reporting high level of SASS
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and so for those of you who haven't seen
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inside out I highly highly recommend it
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but for those who haven't and are
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interested in this anyway uh basically
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inside out for like I said for those who
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are not familiar was a movie from in
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2015 it was animated by Pixar and it it
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takes us viewers Inside the Mind of an
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11-year-old girl named Riley uh the
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story follows her emotions Joy sadness
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anger fear and
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disgust I'm Joy this is sadness that's
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anger this is disgust and that's fear
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we're right
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emotions as they navigate the challenges
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of her family's move from Minnesota to
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San Francisco uh each emotion is
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personified and it operates from
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headquarters the control center in
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Riley's mind the plot centers on Joy and
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sadness accidentally getting lost in the
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vast world of Riley's memories leaving
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anger fear and disgust to manage Riley's
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emotional state as joy and sadness
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Journey back to headquarters they learn
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the importance of all emotions working
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together to help Riley cope with her new
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life uh the film beautifully illustrates
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how emotions are essential for our
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personal growth and our mental health
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and it emphasizes the value of embracing
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all of our feelings not just the
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positive ones but the protective ones
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and so the role of emotions are so
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important and in this movie the the
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emotions Joy sadness anger fear and
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disgust are depicted in this movie um
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and I want to discuss a little bit more
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in depth from Yak pp's view of emotions
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as well as Bernay Brown uh and and her
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view of emotions I have another episode
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on emotions but this one is specifically
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related to uh the Inside Out movie
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sadness is part of the panic and grief
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system which is crucial for social
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bonding and attachment when life gets
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you
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down that's when sadness takes over this
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is
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sadness with a caring touch and a kind
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heart sadness leaps into action to let
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you it signals signals our need for
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comfort and support and it helps people
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to seek connection during distress and
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so when we don't allow for our sadness
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to be to be shown we end up dealing with
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um emotional experiences in in and uh
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being alone and sadness is a natural
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response to loss and disappointment it
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allows us to process our grief and Find
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meaning in our experiences the sadder we
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are when it comes to loss is really just
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the sign of how important something was
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that we don't have anymore and so
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embracing the sadness can lead a greater
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resilience and ultimately
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empathy an example that I want to share
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from the movie Inside Out uh where
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sadness is the hero of the story because
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she cultivates connection is in the
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scene with Bing Bong uh during their
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Adventure Bing Bong becomes really upset
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after realizing he's losing his place in
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Riley's life she matures and she grows
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and so her imaginary life isn't as
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prominent and so while Joy tries to
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distract him from his feelings which
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often times we do in our lives we try to
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get busy doing or paint a a brush of
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Silver Lining it and try to find the joy
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in things uh things tend to perpetuate
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and so sadness takes a different
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approach she listens to Bing Bong
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allowing him to express his emotions and
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to cry it's all I had left of Riley I
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bet you and Riley had great adventures
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oh they were wonderful once we flew back
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in time we had breakfast twice that day
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sadness it sounds amazing I bet Riley
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liked it did oh she did we were best
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friends yeah it's
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sad and this act of empathy helps Bing
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Bong to feel understood and supported
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and allows him to move through the
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sadness that he feels by for no longer
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being the same place in Riley's life as
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he once was and It ultimately helps him
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to kind of grieve the moment and you see
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him kind of and then he's able to move
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on on and so this moment really
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highlights how sadness can foster such a
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deep Connection by validating our
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embracing our emotions rather than
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avoiding them um emotions only stay when
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we try to push them away and this is a
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powerful reminder of the importance of
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all of our emotions in building
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meaningful relationships the next
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emotion that I want to discuss is anger
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I absolutely love anger when things go
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wrong anger is there this is anger he
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will make sure the world knows anger is
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in
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control in this movie I think it does
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such a beautiful job of illustrating the
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importance and so many people are really
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phobic to the emotion anger and anger is
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associated with the rage system and it
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it's activated when a person faces
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frustration or threats and it can
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motivate action to overcome obstacles
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and assert boundaries so uh I think it's
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important to recognize that anger helps
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to keep us safe gives us the uh enough
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power and energy to do something to
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protect ourselves and others from harm
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if we're In Harm's Way and of course we
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don't want to show our anger in uh when
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it's a really intense elevated State
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because our listener will then be
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defensive and they won't be in a place
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where they can listen and hear so we
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need to discharge our anger in a healthy
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way um before we address people but it's
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also a powerful emotion that that leans
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itself towards survival and an an
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example that I love uh in the movie is
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when sadness and Joy are trapped outside
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the window and disgust incites anger to
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give them energy to cut through the
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window and to save them and she
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purposefully ticks him off so that the
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power from the fire can come out of his
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head and she picks him up and and uses
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him to then of course save joy and
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sadness as they're trapped
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outside that worked well what would you
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do if you're so smart I tell you but
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you're too dumb to understand what of
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course your tiny brain is confused
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guess I'll just have to dumb it down to
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your level sorry you don't speak
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as well as you but let me
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try uh anger often masks deeper emotions
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like fear or hurt and understanding and
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expressing anger constructively it can
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lead to healthier relationships and
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ultimately personal growth and so I
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think that people who are phobic of
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anger need to understand that it really
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serves a purpose and it is the only
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emotion powerful enough that gives us
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the adrenal adrenaline we need to save
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ourselves and others from harm the next
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emotion that I'd like to discust is
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disgust sometimes life gets a little
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dirty that's when disgust takes over
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this is disgusted whether advising on
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your social life or On Life's little
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messes discust is there to well it's
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linked to the brain's protective
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mechanisms which helps people avoid
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harmful substances and situations you
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think about the smell of sour food and
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um and how quickly we avert from that
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because it'll make us sick it plays a
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role in maintaining hygiene and and
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social norms as well so something from
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the movie that I really like is Riley
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behaves in a certain way at school and
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disgust is trying to like manage her
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behaviors in a social way so that she
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can make friends and is is really almost
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anxious about her choices so that she
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doesn't do anything that's
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off-putting okay we got a group of cool
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girls at 2:00 how do you know double
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ears pierced infinity scarf wa is she
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wearing ey Shadow yeah we want to be
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friends with them let's go talk to them
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are you kidding we're not talking to
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them we want them to like us oh yeah
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wait what and so disuss can also reflect
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uh moral and ethical boundaries it helps
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us to navigate uh social interactions
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and and maintain personal Integrity over
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our behaviors and and so we want to
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listen to disgust if it's telling us
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something it's probably noteworthy and
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and necessary next we're going to talk
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about fear when the unexpected is
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staring you in the face fear is there to
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keep you safe with speed and wisdom fear
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assesses the situation and settles your
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nerves fear is part of uh it's part of
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the fear system essential for us to
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survive in our lyic system it triggers
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the flight or fight response and It
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prepares our body to respond to Danger
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it can be paralyzing but it's also a
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powerful motivator when we recognize and
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manage our fear it can lead to courage
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and vulnerability and it Fosters deeper
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connections because when we can you know
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when we can show up not just with fear
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but while being brave at the same time
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which I think that people who who are um
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engaging in things that are risky or
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sometimes new there's always fear and
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right beside it uh if we follow through
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is The Bravery that we need to overcome
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those fears and uh in the movie I just
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love fear because it's so hilarious to
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me how you know he's running through
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trying to make sure that Riley doesn't
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get doesn't get hurt but uh when when
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Riley's about to try out for the hockey
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team and her new school fear takes over
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the control panel imagines all the
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possible ways that things could go wrong
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from falling on the ice to being laughed
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at by our new classmates and this scene
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is great because it highlights how
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fear's vigilance helps Riley prepare for
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potential dangers and avoid risky
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situations wait what almost finished
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with a potential disasters where
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scenario is either quick sand
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spontaneous combustion or getting called
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on by the teacher so as long as none of
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those happen okay everybody we have a
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new student in class today are you
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kidding me out of the gates this is not
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happening Riley the constant worry and
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caution might seem excessive at times
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but it does serve an important purpose
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in protecting Riley from harm and
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helping her to navigate new and
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uncertain environments and so we want to
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respect and honor fear's role in our
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lives so long as it doesn't take over
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and and become too big and the next one
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we're going to talk about is joy and
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when I ask my patients who's your
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favorite oftentimes people say Joy is my
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favorite and when I say who's your least
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favorite they say sadness when it comes
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to this movie and I make them rewatch
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the movie and I I say I want you to
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watch it with the uh lens that sadness
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is the hero and I want you to watch how
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you experience yourself in relationship
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to Joy's act or to uh sadnesses actions
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and behaviors and that gives me a lot of
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information about how they understand
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their need to push sadness away and
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their propensity to to Really Want um to
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avoid feelings of sadness and then we
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just talk about how they notice that in
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their body but joy you know the main
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character when everything in your life
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is going your way that's when Joy takes
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control this is Joy with an Unstoppable
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spirit and beatable energy Joy is
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related to the seeking and the play
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systems and it promotes exploration
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creativity social bonding enhances
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overall well-being and resilience and
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joy is profound for the sense of
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connection and fulfillment Yak pinp
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talks about all all things that are
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enjoyed are better enjoyed in connection
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and and um with somebody and so Joy
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often arises from moments of
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authenticity gratitude enriches our
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lives and of course relationships when
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we can share and something that is
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special that we can experience with
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someone else so of course there's many
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many moments of Joy uh influence on
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Riley's emotions but she's always really
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striving to keep Riley happy and um we
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see an example of Joy's importance when
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she helps Riley recall her happy
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memories to lift her spirits and one
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memorable scene is when joy and sadness
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worked together and they're trying to
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retrieve a core memory that had turned
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out sad and then Joy real realizes then
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that sadness is essential for Riley to
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process her emotions and to find true
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happiness not just surface
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level
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sadness Mom and Dad the
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team they came to help because of
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sadness
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and so this this is one of the most
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pivotal moments is it shows her growth
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Joy's growth and also her understanding
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that happiness isn't just about constant
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positivity but it's also about embracing
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and integrating the other emotions and
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so you see the evolution of Joy's
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character when at the beginning she's
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like you know sadness stay over here in
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the circle we we need you to just you
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know stop touching everything and and
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stop ruining everything and she doesn't
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know what's come over her and she's so
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she's so confused as to why she needs to
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try to go to the control panel and take
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over and it's because Riley really does
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need to exhibit the sadness that she's
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experiencing as a result of having to go
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through this this really um painful move
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and you know I like to talk to my
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clients about when you think about
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Riley's life you know she originally has
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a pretty um for our viewers that aren't
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that aren't too young kind of a Leave it
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to Beaver life you know she's got all of
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our needs met from the from the way we
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see the story she's loved she's nurtured
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she's got connection social supports and
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then it all comes crashing down when she
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has to move and when you think about
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that move as something that really
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really takes Riley to a place of a of a
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fall down moment and you think about
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things that have happened in your life I
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mean it just goes to show our resilience
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because something like a move and having
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to have new friends and a new place is
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so detrimental for her emotional
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well-being and um and we when we reflect
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on our own emotional experiences I think
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it's important to note just how
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resilient we are as humans because most
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of us has gone through way more than
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just a move and and so I love that this
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movie helps us to recognize that
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emotional balance friendships connection
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and Imagination and grief and protection
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are all really essential to The Human
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Experience and so I want to talk a
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little bit about the the other things in
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the movie that are really important to
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note we have the control center or
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headquarters and this is where we're
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going to understand the brain
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the moving van won't be here until
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Thursday you're kidding m
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is is lost you said it would be here
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yesterday I know that's what I said
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that's what they told me they stressed
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out they stressed out what are we going
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to
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do did you how the control center is
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really brain life function and and a few
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parts of the brain just in brief about
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what the control center in the movie is
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trying to um emulate so we've got this
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cerebrum this is the big part of our
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brain that helps us think and move and
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act and feel and it's divided into three
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different areas that handle our specific
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tasks like seeing hearing and speaking
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and then we've got the hypothalamus it's
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a SM smaller part that keeps our body in
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balance by controlling things like
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hunger thirst and temperature our basic
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needs to keep the resilience that we
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need and then we have our brain stem and
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this is the part that keeps you alive by
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controlling basic fun functions like
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breathing heart rate and um and of
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course the lyic system which is the
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emotional Center that plays uh that
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helps you to feel and remember things
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and it includes Parts like the amigdala
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which is our body's alarm s system and
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it handles emotions and then the
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hippocampus which H handles memories and
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so this movie primarily uh talks about
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the lyic system and how all of that
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works but we also have the prefrontal
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cortex and you see this go offline with
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Riley um which is the decision maker
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that helps us plan and solve our
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problems and control our behavior and of
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course these parts all work together to
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help us think feel um and stay alive and
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be in connection with people and they
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make sure our body responds correctly to
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what's happening around us and
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ultimately when we've been traumatized
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like we see in the movie with with her
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move she's got emotions that take over
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her prefrontal cortex and end up driving
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her towards behaviors that aren't really
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in line with her with her values and and
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you can see that it just doesn't take
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that much to to derail her her choices
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so I love that this how this movie
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illustrates you know in a normative way
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when something bad happens to us how we
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can really get thrown off track from
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what's in line with how we are and who
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we really are and so now we're going to
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talk about memory and core memories
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anyway these are Riley's memories and
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they're mostly happy you'll notice not
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to
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brag but the really important ones are
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over years
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I don't want to get too technical but
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these are called core memories so
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Riley's memories shape her personality
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and motion emotions in many ways the
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core memories are these important
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memories that end up creating our
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islands of Personality like family
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Island hockey Island which defines who
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Riley is and and it contributes to her
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identity and each core memory Powers a
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different aspect of Riley's personality
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like hockey Island
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[Applause]
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goofball island is my personal favorite
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so these Hallmark moments that happen in
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her life end up fortifying her identity
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and her personality and things that
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really matter to her and they represent
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key parts of her identity and so when
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core memories are lost or changed these
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islands end up crumbling and it shows
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how vital memories are to our
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personality and as an EMDR therapist
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when people come in with um with
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symptoms we address the way memory is
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held maladaptively encoded in our bodies
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and we help to resolve the way they're
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held by allowing us to fully feel an
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emotional experience and so when you
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think about Riley and how she's really
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struggling after for example like the
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hockey game she she was really sad and
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then you see the sadness bring her
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parents into to support her and then you
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also see her team really support her but
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um but how things can get stuck really
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can affect the way that we we think and
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act and it's important that we recognize
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the emotional responses that are
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predicated by the way memory shows up in
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our body and so you you see in the movie
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memories influence how Riley reacts to
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new situations how happy memories help
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her stay positive while sad memories
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make her more empathetic but overall
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memories help her to understand and
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navigate her emotions and ultimately
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shape her into who she is so when you
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think about managing our emot tions we
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want to acknowledge all of our emotions
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and this movie does a great job of
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showing us we when we try to shove
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things away it just gets noisier and
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when she's allowed to show the anger and
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when she's allowed to show the sadness
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that's when she starts to feel better so
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all of expressing all of these emotions
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really helps us to um to move through
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painful experiences and come to the
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other side we want to talk about our
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emotions with someone that we trust so
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that we can process them effectively if
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we are not finding ourselves resolving
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emotional experiences highly recommend
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finding yourself a therapist primarily a
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bottomup therapist like an EMDR
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therapist you can work with memory you
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can work with the emotional experience
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that's not serving you in a way that's
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helpful um we use positive memories and
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we recall happy moments to boost our
21:48
mood during hard times and then
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ultimately we can understand that it's
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it's okay to feel a mix of emotions and
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embrace change and be flexible and
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adaptive especially during significant
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life changes and so I think that this
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movie helps us to normalize that there's
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going to be an array of emotional
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experiences when it comes to a a big
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life change and that if we try to expect
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that we won't have a an array of
22:16
emotions when we're going through
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something that's really unfair um for
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ourselves and we need to give ourselves
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more grace so I want to give you some
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strategies for for emotional balance and
22:26
mental Wellness if you are going going
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through a time of difficulty I mean in
22:31
pretty much every podcast on Mental
22:33
Health you probably hear something about
22:34
mindfulness but it just couldn't be more
22:36
important and more true if we can engage
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in mindfulness specifically a meditation
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or a formal meditation practice to stay
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present and reduce stress we're then
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ultimately just dealing with right now
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we're not dealing with things in the
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past we're not dealing with things that
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that are in our future which is really
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anxiety um we want to try to stay active
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regular physical activity can improve
22:59
our mood and reduce our anxiety and help
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us to deal with stressors it's a way to
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offgas some of the energy that comes
23:06
with with life changes of course doing
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hard things alone is never a good idea
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so we want to build social connections
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maintain strong relationships for
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emotional support and most importantly
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when you're in a hard time this is not
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the time to shut down and go away from
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your support it's the time to reach out
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to the people who've built some trust in
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your life often times we try to take on
23:28
more than we can and we don't set
23:30
appropriate boundaries so we want to
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make sure we're setting boundaries
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learning to say no taking time for
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ourselves and self-care so that we can
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avoid burnout and ultimately running out
23:40
of space we want to engage in creative
23:43
activities we want to use play and
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Imagination like journaling or art to uh
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Express or process our emotions and
23:50
ultimately keep ourselves a little bit
23:53
more balanced so I hope that you found
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this helpful um I just love the movie if
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you haven't haven't seen inside out uh
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it's so great and I will be bringing uh
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inside out to to you shortly as well
24:05
because there's just a variety of
24:07
additional wonderful Concepts that we
24:09
glean from inside out too so thank you
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so much for tuning in I hope that you
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found it helpful and useful and that you
24:16
can take some of the information from
24:18
the movie and apply it to personal
24:20
experiences in your own life and
24:22
ultimately give yourself some Grace if
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you're not managing uh a hard situation
24:27
the way you'd like to seeing that even
24:29
Riley with only something as small as a
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move how much that derails her life and
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how we can have compassion for her in
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the movie um uh for for navigating this
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hard time and we're not judging her so
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let's have some Grace for ourselves so
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thank you so much for tuning in to this
24:45
show uh until we meet again don't forget
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to lead with love it'll never steer you
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wrong
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