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I think, well, let's start at the beginning. Let's start with when you first encountered porn
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because I was interested in what you said about this, that you first watched porn when you were
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I think, 11 years old. And that was the norm, really, for kids, you said, to see porn that
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early in their lives. I wonder whether you think that it's right that that is normal
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to see porn that early on. Of course, I don't think it's right. But I do believe
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of me and a lot of my friends did view porn at a very young age which is obviously awful
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but I think that is the reality. Why do you think that's the reality
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Maybe just curiosity. I also think it's bad how easily accessible it is
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Did you seek out that porn at age 11 or did you just did it just appear on a feed somewhere
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No, it was actually one of my friends that showed it me at a sleepover
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And so it was like a communal thing. So I know a lot of people want to blame my parents for that
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But that, you know, it's kind of inevitable. And I don't think something they could have stopped
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It weird though isn it that that now can or it seems very hard for parents to stop that for parents to stop their little children really from being able to access pornography on a phone or on a tablet or via the internet almost as if the protection uh that they enjoy from like porn mags back in the day um that can be extended to the internet for some reason
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yeah no it's it's a shame how accessible it is definitely the idea of um having a hundred men
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line up uh for a period of 24 hours that that was harmful wasn't it for you i mean i saw the
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documentary it was it looked pretty harmful both physically and psychologically would that be a fair
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conclusion to draw I don't think harmful but definitely like exhausting and different
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and challenging do you think do you think you made a mistake with that one like I can see why
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you do what you do but that was so extreme you were clearly very upset at the end of it
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no no I I just believe it was a way to kind of test my limits and I really wanted to explore
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that kink that I had and I did and you only find out whether or not you like it or into it by doing
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it so yeah but did you like it at the end I I liked a lot of it not all of it no so in that
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sense there was harm done wasn't there I mean there were it was harmful in some way to you
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either physically or psychologically I don think anyone could watch the end of that Lily and think that you were in a sort of a good place I don think it was necessarily harmful Like just because you have a bad experience doesn mean you then traumatised
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This is part of your sort of feminism, really, that this is a choice you make to empower women
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It's definitely a choice I make to empower myself. Right. And there's no sort of broader narrative here
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It's not like you're doing it for a wider purpose. No, it's very simple. I enjoy it and I do it
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Are you a feminist? Yes, I would say I'm a feminist. Do you think that your work shows that feminist streak in you
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I believe it does, yeah. I mean, I think it's extremely liberating to be able to have sex with anybody just like a man could
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Of course, porn isn't their first choice for me. they weren't super ecstatic that I was going into porn but that that's life you know they
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they loved me and they were always back me yeah did they did they say that they wouldn't like
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doing it again I know you've talked about doing a thousand in 24 hours is that something that
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you going to actually do given what happened with the hundred men yeah I just believe I would do it very differently But you still have to have a thousand guys queue up again and do that Yeah but just on different circumstances
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What do you think your mum and dad would think about that? Or does it not matter
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To me, I mean, I'm a grown woman. I pay my own rent
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I, you know, I feel like if there was a male porn star sat here, you wouldn't be asking them, what do your parents think
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so I find it quite um insulting because at the end of the day my my parents as much as you know
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I want to make them proud it is my own life and I you know an adult and I get to choose what I want
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to do do you think a male porn star would be treated differently and if so in what way
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100% I mean obviously I work with male porn stars a lot and when I've spoken to them you know maybe
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they're a dad or something like that I've asked them you know what is it like to do porn and be
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a father um and they said you know what I get fist bumps at the school gates and stuff like that which
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I you know can understand that it's going to be such a different story when maybe I grow up and
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have kids and is that why do you think that is is that's just a different attitude to to men and
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sex as it is to women and sex or promiscuity yeah 100 it's just sexism