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I do want to ask you about Kevin Hollingrich's tweet
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This guy is your chairman. You're facing the fight of your life next May
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and then at the next general election. Why have you got a chairman that is tweeting ridiculous things
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likening reform to the Nazis? Kevin Hollingrich is a fantastic chairman, 100% back him
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I thought it was funny. Maybe not other people would have found it funny. He didn't call anybody Nazis
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Reform needs to stop saying this. The implication... No, the implication is that they don't pay attention
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to a lot of the things they say. Well, I saw Fulham FC last night on the telly
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They've got a black shirt with a gold badge. Yeah, but they're not a political party. They're not a political party, and nobody called them Nazis
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This is a lot of crybaby behaviour, which we need to stop
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Well, do you think reform is in any way Nazi adjacent? No, no, but if someone does something, we can say
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well, this has happened in history. Look at that. It's Twitter. He made a joke. People might not find it funny
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But right now, what's really important is what's happening to all those people out there who are worried about their money
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If that's important, why is Hollenrake tweeting such nonsense? Because it's Twitter
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People put memes, people make jokes. Did you sanction him? Did you say anything, Kevin? Actually, please don't do this
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No, absolutely not. I thought it was funny. I stand by him. Kevin Hollenrake is one of the people who's helping me do a better job
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so I won't have a single word said against him. He's a great chairman. You didn't forensically yse her budget
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You were just making personal barbs. That's not true. She clearly wasn listening I spent 20 minutes talking about how growth was down all of the mistakes she made how she needed to cut spending But she a bit too nasty No I was doing my job
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She had a swipe at me at the last budget. She doesn't remember that. They called. Do you remember
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when they were calling Liz Trusser letters? They didn't think that was nasty, did they? No. These are people who are hypocrites. Politics is quite nasty. We will give as good as we get
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All right. Final question as well, because The Guardian has been pouring over Nigel Farage's
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schoolboy days and suggested that he was both an anti-Semite and in some way racist
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Do you think he's racist? Well, I think that these are things that happened long before I was born
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He's got questions to answer. But does something you say as a teenager make you racist
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You must have been subject to some pretty choice words in the 1980s
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If you haven't changed, and I think the question is, has he changed or not
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And I think that is a legitimate question. People will ask about your past
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People ask about all sorts of stuff that happened long before I was an MP
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And when it doesn't matter or when I can say, you know, it doesn't matter, I've changed, you know, I thought it was a joke, I played this prank and so on
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But I can explain that. He needs to explain himself. It's not my job to defend him. He's a big boy. He can go out and defend himself
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I know, but you might have a greater perspective than most on it because you're a black woman. But you think he's a racist or not
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Well, I think that the gentleman who said that Nigel Farage tormented him throughout the time that he was in school and that that really impacted his life
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he should probably apologise for that at the very least. I think he should apologise for that
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Kemi Bade-Nox, thank you very much indeed for joining me in the studio once again
