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A student who was removed from Leeds Student Radio, after an interview with a detransitioner, says she hopes today’s court ruling will "send shock waves around other common law countries".Following a challenge by campaign group For Women Scotland, Lord Hodge of the Supreme Court declared that the Equality Act 2010 refers to "a biological woman and sex".FULL STORY HERE.
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To join us to discuss this judgement is the gender-critical campaigner, Connie Shaw
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who was suspended from Leeds Student Radio due to her gender-critical views
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Connie, good morning to you. I can see from the smile on your face, the smile on your face, you're very happy and congratulations
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Thank you, although it's not really me that should be. It's for Women's Scotland to have done this and, like Susan Smith was just saying
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all the women across the country who have, for many years, campaigned for this legal right to be able to say that women should be able to have single-sex spaces
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and exclude all men, no matter how they identify, from their spaces
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I mean, I don't really have much to say other than flipping get in. And, yeah, I just can't stop smiling
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It's just so emotional and such a mementous day of women's rights in this country
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And hopefully we'll send shockwaves around other common law countries, such as Australia
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which are having real issues with women's rights there at the moment too
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so hopefully this will have an effect on the whole world. Connie, you were suspended, as we mentioned
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from Leeds Student Radio. What did you say that was deemed so controversial Well I wasn actually told exactly what it was that I had said that resulted in my permanent removal from my committee position but
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the Free Speech Union and I believe it was to do with my gender critical views
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and this whole case is particularly emotional for me because Susan Smith was
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the first gender critical Susan Smith who's one of the directors for Women's Scotland who just gave an interview after the ruling then yeah and he was one
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of the first, I think the first gender critical feminists that I ever spoke to and realised that
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actually I did think this was a huge issue and I, well me and my three other presenters on politics
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on Leeds Student Radio almost exactly this time last year interviewed her on Leeds Student Radio
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and that episode can still be listened to on SoundCloud and it is the most listened to episode
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on the Leeds Student Radio SoundCloud which I feel very smug about and now we've won
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And what were you accused of being? A TERF. When I was suspended I was suspended on the basis that essentially I was a health and safety risk to other members that I hadn acted in a selfless way and that I brought LSR into disrepute
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And therefore the idea was that you... I'm interested in who had made the complaint then
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Was there, is there some very vocal trans activists within your university at Leeds
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within the student union, who made it their work to get you cancelled
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Well, I will never know who it was who made the complaint
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Chilling. Yeah, I will never be told. But I would say that it's not that there are certain trans activists
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within the student union, but gender ideology is so embedded within university culture
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that it was just bound to happen. I wasn't surprised at all when it did happen
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which is why I'd already purchased my Free Speech Union membership, basically in preparation, because I knew that what I was saying
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Even though what I was saying wasn't being broadcast on Leeds Student Radio
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it was my own personal podcast and my own subsack and social media
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I knew that I could cause people some upset and I did So yeah I wasn surprised at all But like yeah I don know who made the complaint and I doubt I ever know Connie would you be keen to go back onto Leeds Student Radio
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Um, well, I... Not particularly, I mean... Go on. Come to LBC
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LBC? You mean GB News? How dare you, Stephen Pound? No, they take people from the student radio and go back on
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To have your say. Sorry? Why not go back on and have your say? you've been vindicated, after all, by this court ruling
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Well, not necessarily, because they didn't overturn my appeal. When I appealed the decision, it wasn't overturned
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But I think... I mean, they said that if I wanted to return
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and run again for committee, I'd have to write an apology. Oh, Connie
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Well, you know what... Don't do that. Their loss is substat, clearly, and GB News is game
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We want you here on our panel talking such common sense because the wheel is turning on this issue
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And you have played a part in this. I know you said you aren't involved in the court case, but anybody who's stuck their neck out
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any woman who swam against the tide, should be celebrating this morning
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So good for you. Connie Shaw
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