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hey ladies and gentlemen this is Carmine
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Saia for explain America and I've often
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wondered how a defense attorney can
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defend somebody that they're relatively
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certain is guilty of a of a heinous
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crime I still wonder that after this
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interview before we get started please
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out so here's the
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deal we can't say for sure if if Luigi I
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believe it's ma
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Meloni is guilty or innocent of these
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crimes right innocent until proven
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guilty in the United States and we just
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don't know that the evidence is
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overwhelming that we've been told about
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and I absolutely have my
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opinion I think he's guilty that's my
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opinion and I don't care what you think
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of the insurance industry or CEOs or
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billionaires or anything you don't have
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the right to take someone else's life
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for your perceived grievances you just
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don't it doesn't work that way I mean
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it's just evil I don't care what you
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think your reasons are it's absolutely
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evil and to watch this attorney sit here
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and try and dance and dance about the
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Constitution with CNN host Caitlyn
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Collins as she's nailing him to the wall
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on these
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questions it was really ridiculous to
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watch this dance and I think she did a
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remarkable job of holding him his feet
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to the fire here now I want you guys to
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watch this video and let me know what
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you think in the comments we were inside
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that courtroom of course and we learned
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about what happened in there you're
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fighting extradition for him to New York
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why are you why are you fighting that it
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seems like it's inevitable that that he
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will be sent to New
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York well well that that may be but
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again you know the Constitution and I
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know keep bringing up that word today
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unless we forget about that but the
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Constitution gives you certain rights um
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and um we need to make informed decision
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and the law permits and the Constitution
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permits that somebody in Luigi's
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position um has the opportunity to look
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at evidence um make sure the government
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through a process and that's what we're
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doing so again I've been in this case
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probably about 12 14 hours maybe
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whatever give or take and um I haven't
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seen a speck of evidence uh at all um I
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argue today at the extradition hearing I
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still haven't received details about the
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charges that he's facing in New York I
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heard your um introduction and um uh
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looking into that but so I you know we
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as lawyers need to make informed
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decisions and we need to get our hands
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and eyes on some evidence yeah I mean
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I'm looking at the charges right here
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it's murder a loaded firearm two counts
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of that a forged instrument and criminal
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possession of a weapon as well I mean
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those are the charges from New York I
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mean so you're not is you're fighting
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extradition you're not actually arguing
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that the authorities in New York have
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the wrong guy are
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you uh well I have seen any evidence
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that they have the right guy um I can
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tell you that much so I don't I don't
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know anything about that um you know
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there's uh you identification issues uh
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that are present and so I don't U you
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know like I said this is why I need to
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look at some things and they need to
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convince me you know I I I try to remind
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people and it's a shame that we forget
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about this presumption of innocence that
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the constitution gives all Americans and
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people don't worry about the
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Constitution until they're uh facing
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charges or accusations against them then
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trust me Caitlyn the Constitution
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matters but and of course of course it
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does and I know you you highlighted
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earlier and emphasized innocent until
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proven guilty I understand that but I
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read the criminal or I read the the
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police report from when he was arrested
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he initially gave them a false name and
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then when they asked to confirm his
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identity uh he said that he shouldn't
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have lied to them about it I mean that
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would seem to be that that they do have
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the right person given that he had a gun
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on him he had a fake New New Jersey ID
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that he used to check into a hostel I
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mean is none of that enough for you
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personally to to know that they do have
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the right
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guy well first of all that's a piece of
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paper I know you probably can't tell but
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but I'm 5'6 I could write on that I'm 65
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and all this other kind of stuff so
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that's written on paper what's nice
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about the law is we'll have a hearing I
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can cross-examine Witnesses and find out
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look at reports and find out what they
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have and what they don't have so again
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that's just written on a criminal
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complaint um without getting into the
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details of that um I I don't see any
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evidence of a forgery um you they're
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going to have to at least prove a
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primacia case which is less than the
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Beyond A Reasonable Doubt but I I I need
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to see these things right now I have one
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piece of paper um and again so uh yes Mr
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Dicky have you
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