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just last week you had all those pagers
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the thousands of walkie-talkies that
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were used as explosives on Hezbollah
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members in Lebanon and what is widely
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believed to be a coordinated attack by
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Israel so where does America stand in
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this Tech race with other countries like
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China here to give us his insights we
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have former CIA operative Mike Baker
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back on the show Mike good to have you
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on as always good thank you very much I
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appreciate you so the Biden
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Administration as you know they're
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cracking down on cars made in China
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because of the software uh could
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possibly pose potential National
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Security threats saying hey if foreign
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adversaries have made the software they
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can surveil they can control the cars
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remotely it's I don't know if you saw it
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Mike that movie Leave the World Behind
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where all the Teslas start crashing at
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the same time is something like that
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actually
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possible it is uh you know from a
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technology perspective yes it's it's a
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little bit like it's an expanded version
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of uh taking control of your smart
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appliances and and honestly whether
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that's your heating system or your
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refrigerator whatever it may be so the
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vehicle is is another element in that
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look the biggest problem we face and and
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I know there's a lot of attention on the
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pager and the handheld radio
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walkie-talkie operations that took place
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in Lebanon that was more of a physical
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issue that was physical control of
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devices and they were able to implant
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explosives the bigger issue that the us
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and our allies face is the the Cyber
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attack the large scale Cyber attack and
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for years and years uh the countries
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with the resources and motivation that
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basically is China and Russia and Iran
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uh have been probing and testing and
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mapping out our critical
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infrastructure because in the future if
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there is a global conflict you can count
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on the fact that those Nations or
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whomever is involved will take off the
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shelf A playbook that they've created
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already that shows the weaknesses in our
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critical infrastructure our water
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treatment facilities Transportation fuel
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movement trains uh the electrical grid
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and that's will be that will be part of
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the global conflict they will bring the
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pain directly to the Homeland by
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shutting down systems that's the that's
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the concept and are we ready for that it
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will be a different Battlefield are we
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ready for that I keep thinking about you
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know you and I were talking just last
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week about the pagers the walkie-talkies
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are we ready for this new era of
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technological Warfare and the cyber
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attacks that that you're warning about
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well the problem is that if you just
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take our power grid right and imagine if
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the power goes down for for weeks weeks
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months at a time right what's not moving
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well Pharmaceuticals aren't moving
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food's not moving fuel's not moving uh
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you don't have water you don't have
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power obviously can't get cash out there
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are a myriad of problems that we're
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looking at the problem is if you just
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look at the power grid it was never
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built to withstand a terrorist attack
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much less a Cyber attack and so our
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eastn West and Texas grids are
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unfortunately very unprepared for
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something like this I was just I was
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going to say I lived through when the
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Texas grid went down uh in the the
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winter of what was that 2021 uh and it
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not that it was a Cyber attack but it
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was awful um to all the points that that
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you just made what new protections do
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you want to see put in place um by
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Congress the government to fortify us
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here well look they they they're aware
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of the issue uh but unfortunately much
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like other issues up on Capitol Hill
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things move extremely slowly so yes
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they've been aware of it but you know
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the our our our defense imposture needs
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to be much more robust look we do we do
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the same thing do we map out on the
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offensive side do we map out and and
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understand what the the weaknesses are
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uh well of course we do and we better
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hope that we do and we better hope that
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we're the best at it but on the
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defensive side I think Congress needs to
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be much more proactive and and
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understand where we are with this
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because you know again whether it's
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water treatment whether it's power
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whether it's it's our transportation
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systems that may be susceptible uh the
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movement of train traffic around the
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country uh we are still behind the curve
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yeah we need to identify what our
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vulnerabilities are here uh Mike Baker
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always good to have you thank you for
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joining me and I'd be remiss not to say
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my dad listens to your podcast uh the
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