Why Jonathan Majors' Kang Will Change Marvel Forever! 🔥

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foreign
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so as always man let's go ahead and get
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into our synopsis and then we get into
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it all right quick synopsis all right so
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in the film which officially kicks off
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phase five of the Marvel Cinematic
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Universe superhero partner Scott Lang
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and hope Van Dyne return to continue
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their Adventures as Ant-Man and the WASP
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together with hopes parents Hank Pym and
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Janet Van Dyne the family finds
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themselves exploring the quantum realm
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interacting with strange new creatures
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and embarking on an adventure that will
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push them beyond the limits of what they
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thought was possible Jonathan Majors
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joined the adventure as king the
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Conqueror
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[Music]
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hey
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this is
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also the first episode where ditch got
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buttons
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before
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it's like just the body like he's like
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all right so before to put some
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structure in it let's start off with
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ratings before we get into like the top
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okay out of ten ratings out of five five
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eagles eagles five eagles
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uh
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um I'll give it four Eagles four Eagles
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all right
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I'm giving it 3.5 Eagles three eagles
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three eagles okay three E's three E's
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three E's man yeah so let's um
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let's start off with your overall review
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of it like how did you like it I mean I
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told you I'm playing devil's advocate
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here yeah you're saying I enjoyed it
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better than black like what kind of
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forever okay like
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um
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but no yeah like I said I I thoroughly
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enjoyed it I actually enjoyed it more
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than I thought I was gonna enjoy it uh
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I'm really still I say honestly I'm not
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a huge fan of Ant-Man movies I get that
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they're in there to move it along yeah
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but I also that's really why I enjoyed
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it because I feel like even compared to
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wakanda this actually moved it along
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like what kind of kind of is still a
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standstore like what's going on just in
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wakanda Fair so because I'm gonna let me
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go next because I got directly opposing
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the new because I so though I still like
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this movie and it's a good movie and
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everybody in this movie actually did
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good I think this is the first time in a
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movie
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that um that I really said
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it it uh suffered due to Marvel telling
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us what's to come
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I'm leaving that too I don't have any
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part of going through that yeah and the
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reason is is that I feel like
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the difference from six months ago to
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now the only difference that we got in
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the Marvel Cinematic Universe is that we
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saw Kane this did not progress anything
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in the story
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to me because of the fact that this
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movie like if they let's say they never
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did this movie and then they just told
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us oh yeah so Scott fought King in the
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quantum room and he's out here it was we
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will still got the same gist everything
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else in this movement besides Scott
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fighting King and Kane potentially out
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in this world because we don't know
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um I feel like it didn't progress the
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story so I have ethereal work came here
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oh me too me too but like so that's the
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reason why I said that's the reason why
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I gave it a 3.5 because I it was a solid
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movie and Jonathan Majors did amazing
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Paul Rudd did amazing uh you know I'm
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saying Michelle for Pfeiffer did amazing
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like everybody did good but I feel like
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that pairing of them didn't work well
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because I feel like nobody respects
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Ant-Man winning I feel like the pre the
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reason why people are so like what the
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hell is because it's like Ant-Man beat
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king because if it was Captain America
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Hulk or anything like that I feel like
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people I'm like okay this makes sense
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you know but I feel like because it was
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Ant-Man that was triumphant people was
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like ah come on I mean I feel like soda
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and that's so my reason I don't like oh
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no no yeah yeah
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um I gave it I gave it the rating I gave
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it because was alarmingly average
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this is completely correct that this did
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nothing to move the plot it's
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literally this movie was based around
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this King variant saying yo I'm bad but
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there's some other [ __ ] I'm trying to
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stop yeah that was Loki I mean yeah he
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said yo he told us the same [ __ ] I'm bad
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I get it but it's some other [ __ ] I'm
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trying to stop so it's like cool why do
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one of the one of these two didn't need
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to be here
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and I had more fun watching Loki so I
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don't think this needed to be here I
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feel like I feel like that's like what
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my theory is why I feel like they both
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used to be there okay like that's pretty
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much what I mean like I agree like I
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don't want to go like I agree that it
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could not have been in the mood like it
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could have been we didn't we didn't need
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it at all like we didn't need the movie
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but
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um I I do believe that it actually like
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it is not necessarily pushed the plot
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but it's like we I think what you're
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saying like it hurt because we knew that
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Kang was like he's gonna be victorious
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because we have a whole another movie
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coming you're saying that he's in so for
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for me what I what I saw it as Loki was
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outside of the realm of course so this
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was the first time Kang is actually in
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the MCU that's not even necessarily
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because it all was contained to the
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quantum realm nobody's still nobody
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still nobody knows
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somebody came up to him they had their
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interactions but nobody else outside of
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it knows so it's just like it was a
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moment that happened just so we can see
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it as the viewer yeah because what what
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would significantly up my and we talked
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about what we predicted because nobody
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died the world is not placed on a oh
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[ __ ] Kang is here right still only
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Ant-Man and Loki he thinks he won he
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well he's unsure remember at the end but
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like only the ant family and like the
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world doesn't know and I feel like if we
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are getting into the air
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yeah if we're getting to this era of
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King I feel like the the way it should
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have ended even if they don't want to
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kill off Ant-Man we should have been
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left feeling like maybe he died or or he
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didn't get out and the world is like oh
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[ __ ]
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Janet should have died somebody yeah I
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mean somebody I would agree that I feel
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like like Mom should like bro you did
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enough she did a lot like Mom shouldn't
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at least died
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happened in the quantum room was her
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fault yeah because because cash because
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like they hated her like they really
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hated her she was
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nah I'm not even talking about
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the set ever
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right just in a mess well yeah it just
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didn't mean but she bro for her to be
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like why y'all why y'all messing with
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the quantum real mad you ain't talk to
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nobody you ain't tell nobody
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gonna be like why are y'all doing this
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well we don't know what we're not doing
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yeah because they wouldn't she wouldn't
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have been messing around with it like I
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definitely like I definitely like like
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even what you're saying about the most
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averages because even like I said the
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tropes like that and the things that
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made this movie go like to be truthfully
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honest it would have been better if it
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was like a TV show like they would have
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actually made that man serious yeah they
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would actually make the Ant-Man series a
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series I feel like it would have been
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dragged out a little bit better probably
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well yeah because yeah yeah but but
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that's why I said like but I mean
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because that's what I did hate it's like
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we really doing this and I really feel
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like that's the laziness of a lot of the
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Marvel movies in a small sense like a
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lot of like even with dark even with Dr
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Strange is because you lack to tell
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somebody like the mistake you made
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you're saying like and then you just now
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we got to watch you fix the problem but
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it's like that's what I done so that's
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what I didn't like about it was like the
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fact that we're really watching this
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movie because you haven't told these
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[ __ ] since you've been back
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since you've been back it must not
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you could have said it and she still
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could have been like oh hey everyone
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everything else yeah yeah people people
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go but you're curious yeah yeah but it's
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like you down there and so that's what I
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said because that's what made like what
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made the movie that I didn't like about
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it is because of that like the plot of
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the movie was everybody finally like
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Landing in the quantum realm yeah but
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talking to everybody in the quantum
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realm about your like the mama like what
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like we why and no one understanding why
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and then she would get so defensive when
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people would ask yeah but at the same
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time be like but I'm doing this to save
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you [ __ ] right so so so so to connect
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to keep structure on this one let's
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start off with the things that we liked
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right the things that you liked about it
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because like I said we already talked
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about the acting right I thought Kang
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was actually menacing as [ __ ] uh like
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bro game came in and it was just even
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even unhinged even that even that that
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subtle part before he before she saw it
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yeah you just like it was just Eerie as
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[ __ ] like yo this [ __ ]
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he was like
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a weird ball of energy yeah where he
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played plate to that's just all variants
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okay yeah they have that energy it looks
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scarier here because it's like wrong
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because he went you waiting for the
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other shoe to drop yeah you like looked
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at this [ __ ] like bro and then when you
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saw that moment like he he was like what
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did you see he was like like he saw her
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freeze up to me like oh she just caught
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it
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we probably had a short one but she
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might hold that before I went for a
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minute like he's going he just like
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um what's
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he's like
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we mean like we can still get out here
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like just cause you saw [ __ ] don't got
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to change something and that's what I'm
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saying because didn't came who Kang had
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a woman like Minion or something with
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her
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oh yeah yeah it's like that was his love
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interest yep um bro matter of fact hold
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on before before you move past it
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because this is how much he was in love
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with her is that he took her Essence and
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threw it in the Multiverse so that way
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she's reborn in many times so he has so
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every every time he has the opportunity
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to save her that's how much he loved her
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that's wild
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the reason I don't know if they're going
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to get an MCU but I think you know in
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the comics he has the yeah yeah that was
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to mimic I don't know if it was I don't
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know if it was just her face in general
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yeah something like that but yeah that
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was so yeah he is obsessed with her well
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he is obsessed with her Thanos was it
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Lady Death yeah yeah that really so if
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they play that that's gonna be wild well
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we know that she could remember Miss
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Minnesota she was like well he wouldn't
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want that and then she's like all right
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well I got to go handle something and
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she had left oh yeah and so we assume it
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she's still like
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yeah
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so yeah that though that was that was
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King and his menacing was one of the
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biggest shining points
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he's killing me he's killing me and I
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I've been watching this like the
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magnitude of course like when you see
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the end of the movie and you just kind
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of see like this this like the end
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credit yeah and you realize like bro
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hold on I've actually you just realized
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that that was like really dawned on me
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that I'm about to see Jonathan Majors
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like a thousand times yeah
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soup variety double low King in the
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Discord and I cry
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I'm talking about in the Discord all the
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different yeah you know it's gonna be
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coaching Scarlet santorian yeah
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but double Kane couldn't be fired
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double okay
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that's like so like the reason so the
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reason I I enjoy it because like you
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said Kang was Kane was one of the
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definite highlights of it um but I also
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I think my and it's gonna sound weird
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but I think my hatred for the comic
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relief of Ant-Man is what made me enjoy
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this more because Kang was like I'm
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really not here for that oh yeah yeah
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yeah and that's how I am when I watch
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anyway like bro you don't need to be
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funny like well because they say that's
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the thing he can't shot him down he
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can't knew who he was that's like yeah
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like because everybody was harping down
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he was like oh he disrespectful like did
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I kill you before are you the guy but
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then later on he calls him Ant-Man when
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nobody told told him his name was
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Ant-Man right yeah so I felt like yeah
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man yeah so I believe that he knew
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exactly it was he was like come on like
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this is because he's still pestering me
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well also think about if you came and
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you defeated Avengers you defeated Thor
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now you got to deal with Ant-Man again
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like God this [ __ ] how you get back out
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of all the people like y'all could have
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sent me Thor y'all could have sent me
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hope y'all sending me Ant-Man that I
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gotta deal with the first but also would
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also feel like I also feel like because
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they do the name Batman had to give him
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a problem at some point in time like
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like or it could have just been that
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easy well he's like would you remember
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his name down there
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Avengers so at some point you probably
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remember at least all the Avengers right
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yeah but I would probably like I just
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feel like I mean I get what you're
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saying
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also this way before you think about it
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this way
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so we fighting you fighting to die
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fighting The Hulk and then you see your
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Ant-Man you gonna have a moment like
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wait a minute it's an Ant-Man you're
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gonna remember that yeah
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but he has to remember the name because
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he had to not believe in him yeah whoa
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well it was around the time like I think
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uh thank you they was fighting because
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it was at that time before before Hank
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with the with the Army yeah bro cause he
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was putting hands to it bro I should
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have died too and then thought he had
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him remember he he thought he had him on
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me dude
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he knew that move though yeah like I
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feel like that when he got caught up boy
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what the [ __ ] and got it walking like
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you do the same [ __ ] that's why we're
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not doing it like that I am King that
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was a disrespectful that was a [ __ ] you
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doing all this I am King dog
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the use of Kang is so strong but this is
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gonna have an issue with Kane
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I'm clipping that as soon as I can like
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yeah okay
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right because I mean I definitely want
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to hear we would like I need to hear we
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was gangs
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I thought they were gonna do in the
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council again
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if they say it that's definitely fan
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service for black people
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that was that one black right in the
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room was like hey like matter of fact
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like I need Don Cheeto or or [ __ ] uh
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a [ __ ] I need somebody to be like all
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right we're going to see the Kings y'all
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we're going to sit here like I need them
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to you because somebody got to say it
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someone someone a Black Avenger has to
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we're gonna go see the council yeah you
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got to break the wall like even if you
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like bro look at the characters
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or is the moment between them it's a
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moment between
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that that's also a shiny moment for me
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though that them recreating the
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counseling Kings and just actually
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seeing that yeah rip from the comic book
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that was really [ __ ] I was mad I saw
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it a little I saw like two or three Rick
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and Morty fans oh they're taking the
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council lyrics
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um but like I said like I said Paul
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rudding them like I said they did a
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really great job like
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so when you think about us not us being
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mad at Janet that is that is great
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acting for Janet to have that
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nefariousness of where you like you
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doing a lot and you [ __ ] up the
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family yeah
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[Music]
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yes
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but I also enjoyed it because she really
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didn't have nothing to do like she
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pretty much set the ground to see all
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the ant-man's really yeah because we got
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you know saying like because even even
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getting the shout one of my other
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favorite Parts it was the shot that you
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know him bringing all the ants through
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oh yeah yeah oh yeah I mean but I mean
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but I didn't even know
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also to go back to back to our podcast
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episode that did make me rethink the
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Swarm because that was former ants you
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know what I'm saying yeah
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cause I said Kings like dog like that
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[ __ ] was like he was trying because you
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saw the blue yeah that [ __ ] was
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going he was like oh [ __ ] they took that
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[ __ ] back there's some big ass hands
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though hey what's up
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so that's and I really would have wished
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if Kane would have actually acknowledged
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both like really like oh so it's too bad
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wait hold on well you got to think about
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it like you did not know because
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yep and the difference is uh depending
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on which Ant-Man he killed remember Hank
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Pym talks to the ants right Scott Lang
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doesn't talk to them at like that like
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as much right so it's like it's the
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difference between it if he killed a
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Hank Pym variant but if it was always
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yeah like yeah he must have killed it I
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just thought about it yeah yeah he must
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have killed the Hank variant because if
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he he literally looked at yeah but
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together God damn remember her face but
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remember but also to go back what you
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said though well you probably saw just
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the mask but also what you said too
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these ants was big the ants that he like
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yeah
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he was like okay it's a bunch of small
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ass hands bro like you tripping like
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that's that would like the Swarm thing
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would work yeah
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you got a giant sized [ __ ]
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answers you gotta pull the blasters off
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for it
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hey but he when not when those blasters
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didn't work and he was like look I just
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gotta do it with hands
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hands must be bro that was that was
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Jonathan Majors getting ready for
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Christmas that's also the difference
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between a comic book uh uh Kane and
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movie King so one of the reasons one of
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the things about comic book King is he
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can't fight no he's just literally he's
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literally because he has infinite
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knowledge and power and stuff like that
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okay that's what makes a movie
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yeah that's who because hand in hand
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anybody can really be we can really can
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really beat him you know what I'm saying
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so like oh okay okay so like that's why
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he also it's weird because he also says
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yo my my Arch and like you know how most
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villains they are shooting me as some
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hero yeah Kang's Arch enemies himself
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which makes more sense yeah because if
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you because again you're battling the
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wits he don't care about the [ __ ] that
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can beat his ass you just battling
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another nefarious version of you because
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it because it really just about this
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year because all it is all it is is like
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okay I know that I'm conniving and evil
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right so now I gotta deal with a whole
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bunch of me who's also like I'm trying
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to trick y'all you trying to trick e
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he's trying to trick us it's like no
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this is this is this is it's more
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annoying than anything because it's like
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you can't trust nobody you see the next
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person I'm a cop
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like because it's like all right let's
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make a pack but then both of us is
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thinking how we gonna [ __ ] over each
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other like that like that gotta be
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stressful as a [ __ ]
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you know what I'm saying like no I gotta
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deal with that so yeah man like and I
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thought like so the one thing that I
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didn't
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um like and it's not that I didn't like
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about the movie that I like the reviews
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people were trying to compare this to
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Spy Kids and I'm like dog the quantum
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realm looked dope to me I mean it did
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like but spike is like I was gonna talk
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about it was a very heavy Revolution I
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think it was only because of old boy's
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face
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or the outfits of course yeah
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but these color schemes been already
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established accurate color scheme so Spy
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Kids copied off of them I mean my kids
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probably copied off of them in a sense
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but I mean they didn't like it's because
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I thought the quantum room looked good I
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I like I said I was more upset they
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didn't explore it more yeah but I
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thought the quantum realm and how it
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looked because remember like we're going
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back way back when I said one of the
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things I love about Marvel movies is
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when they take us into a universe and
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they show it right yeah yeah and so this
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one this Quantum realm you got to see
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more of it and everything like that but
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I feel like I wanted them to explore
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more you know what I'm saying right
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sense of it and that's why I hope I mean
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I mean I don't know if we're getting any
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I thought we'd get any more Ant-Man
21:53
movies like somewhat they gotta still
21:54
get out of the quantum realm well
21:55
they're out they're out yeah I mean um
21:57
no yeah because everybody is out so we
21:58
really don't get well unless they go and
22:01
start talking about the revolution like
22:03
those characters that they introduced us
22:04
to oh yeah they're still there and they
22:06
can get into the quantum room [ __ ] they
22:08
can even do a side story of showing
22:10
Janet's time in it because like they
22:11
gave us a glimpse into Janet's like her
22:14
her time in there yeah and so it's like
22:16
you know thinking about just like okay I
22:19
know that Kevin feige said we got too
22:20
many shows but remember what I said when
22:22
we talked about it it's like if you're
22:24
not focusing on the main like if you
22:26
don't feel like you got to put a main
22:27
character in it and you're just building
22:29
the world about these characters then
22:30
it's a good Side Story right that's it
22:32
for sure no no no no no
22:36
my defense against feige saying too many
22:39
shows was I was saying like it's too
22:41
many shows trying to bring in the main
22:44
character to the main storyline but yeah
22:47
but that's fair yeah so I'm okay with
22:49
that I think I'm thinking I know with
22:51
him he's gonna look at him it's not like
22:53
another show I mean it is it is another
22:55
show but I think that it relieves the
22:57
stress of trying to be like okay this
22:59
guy to match this is like if you say all
23:01
right I'm gonna just do a show yeah
23:02
Quantum realm then you can do things
23:05
that you don't have to you don't have to
23:06
think heavily about the implications to
23:09
the main story like I said because she's
23:10
been gone so you'd be like you know
23:12
about it though people might be worried
23:14
about it much as people claim like oh
23:16
everything you gotta watch this to watch
23:17
that but they gotta tie in X Y and Z
23:19
when they give you one minute minute
23:21
that it's not you're getting upset you
23:23
like it doesn't put your story I mean
23:24
the tie-in really is the fact that you
23:26
really because you get like I said we
23:27
got offensive her relationship with Kang
23:28
and I'm like you just really would be a
23:29
more dragged out her beginning that was
23:33
like the most unrealistic thing in this
23:34
movie was Janet was down there with Kane
23:36
for 30 years it ain't nothing happened
23:37
and it was it was a picture of Jonathan
23:41
like like you you chose Bill Murray yeah
24:02
I mean in the parts that matter you're
24:05
right yeah
24:13
like I know Janet like that part was
24:15
risque is a [ __ ]
24:24
what parts matter mom
24:26
for 30 years I got knees she kept saying
24:30
that yeah
24:57
so there's three things that right now
25:01
that I didn't like about the movie and I
25:02
don't like about Marvel right so the
25:04
three things the the first thing that I
25:06
don't like about Marvel right now and
25:08
what is like
25:09
I am over my heroes having parental
25:13
duties let my heroes be [ __ ] Heroes
25:15
I'm tired of every hero right now in
25:18
real life every hero right now is
25:20
dealing with a bratty teenager or like
25:23
like or or just dealing with something
25:25
or a kid NOW Thor got a kid we got Hawk
25:28
we got Hawkeye dealing with what's the
25:30
name we're having a kid what's Chris
25:31
Hemsworth being like yeah of course
25:34
right everybody she could have got back
25:35
there's many roads they could have did
25:37
oh like I said we got that like I said
25:39
we got now we got Ant-Man dealing with
25:41
it like you know what I'm saying like
25:42
let my heroes be heroes you know what
25:44
I'm saying so that's only two that's
25:46
three you see what you say Thor Thor
25:48
Ant-Man and Hawk Hawkeye
25:57
[Music]
26:03
so you don't think that he didn't do
26:05
take any parental
26:07
um authority over Kate Bishop now he
26:09
gave her some words
26:12
about him retiring yeah it's about every
26:15
time but that whole thing was about him
26:16
protecting Kate Bishop yeah before he
26:18
could make sure she's good cause I'm
26:19
about to retire no let him be a hero
26:23
like I don't want to do another day
26:25
he ain't gonna be a hero
26:28
listen the way the way that it was they
26:31
was the way that it was supposed to go
26:32
the child it was supposed to be dealing
26:34
with him
26:35
and they they leaped out the real black
26:37
he was what that whole movie was
26:39
supposed to be him
26:41
yes
26:45
so that's the first one I don't know
26:47
what y'all doing
26:49
she
26:51
retired she she's hot yeah you think you
26:54
think the next time we see her he's on
26:55
the hip bro call him he's gonna still be
26:58
in it he ain't coming out there yeah he
27:02
might save her once a time when they
27:04
next time we see him but second thing
27:06
second thing that I'm tired of Marvel
27:08
doing is taking villainous characters
27:10
and turning them into a comic stick like
27:13
so the same way they did Mandarin they
27:15
should not have cut off Modoc at the
27:17
knees and made him a butt of the joke
27:18
like I hated that yeah Murdoch was a
27:22
very bad representative yeah they made
27:24
it like this look but I definitely
27:25
wasn't great yeah look with the mask it
27:27
was great
27:36
we seen way better CGI from Marvel
27:41
yeah realistic
27:43
Ally got that big ass face
27:46
they couldn't know they they could have
27:48
made it works the mask works for sure we
27:50
see we've seen way better CGI
27:53
effectively just a big ass face like
27:56
that it's just gonna look nah but that
27:58
was just bad like I did a CGI and
28:00
actually like really animated a real
28:02
looking face it to me honestly would
28:04
look worse
28:06
it was supposed to be more like it's
28:08
scary no but anyone
28:27
and then the last thing that I'm like
28:29
all right is like again we talked about
28:32
it earlier somebody should have died
28:53
or Hank like I feel like Hank was either
28:56
at his end I feel like I just wouldn't
28:57
care or something
29:02
the reason why I feel like he should
29:04
have because he he gave us his Peak like
29:06
calling the answer stop like he gave us
29:08
his Peak yeah that was his moment yeah
29:10
it can't get it right got off of that be
29:11
like I'm gonna kill you before I get out
29:13
of here though like I would get one off
29:14
like I don't think we're gonna get
29:15
anything bigger than what he did so you
29:17
know save in that room like though I
29:19
didn't like that they made modak the
29:21
butt of the jokes I did love when his
29:23
death scene I that everything because he
29:26
was like because he was like we were
29:29
like brothers and he was like what he
29:31
was like well at least I died in
29:33
Avengers
29:38
that was what I would what I would love
29:41
is like we definitely I feel like you
29:43
know that he really didn't die yeah I'm
29:46
saying so I I would love if we get if we
29:49
got this comic relief him now but like
29:51
the reprogramming of him is like the
29:53
more dangerous well I mean that's what
29:54
they did with the Mandarin yeah
30:00
yeah but I didn't like
30:16
speaking of scary when his face pushed
30:19
through the [ __ ] force field that was
30:21
creepy as a [ __ ]
30:27
that's really why I don't think that I
30:30
don't think that he really caught King
30:31
uh like he really like defeated the
30:34
force film I think was like oh
30:36
I feel like
30:38
okay you know what
30:40
I can't save them and then he said hey
30:42
we gotta put a mask on bro we can't keep
30:44
that face out here that was the thing I
30:46
did to give that [ __ ] to mass like
30:47
probably
30:48
every time you talk to me you keep that
30:51
[ __ ] mask on you probably
30:52
definitely make that mask like he was
30:54
really really irritated like well you in
30:56
my face with this [ __ ] dog well we know
30:58
we get irritated by the remember when he
31:00
was doing his uh his monologue to Scott
31:02
and he came in trying to add live he
31:04
said hey hey don't talk when I'm talking
31:06
bro
31:14
this is not a duet my [ __ ] get that
31:18
[ __ ] out of here
31:23
all right so yeah so what about y'all
31:25
did y'all have anything that y'all like
31:26
really hate it
31:28
I mean like I said I just I really
31:29
didn't like the I just didn't like the
31:30
plot like I feel like the plot I feel
31:32
like how they got to wherever they you
31:34
know saying like knowing that uh Janet
31:36
just lied to you know what I'm saying
31:37
like that's the only thing like I feel
31:38
like they could have definitely that was
31:39
a very easy way out okay and they could
31:42
have definitely like even like you said
31:43
even if they would have just she just
31:44
would have told everybody but they just
31:46
found a different reason to go through
31:47
the realm like they could have found a
31:48
totally different reason to go to the
31:49
round yeah but she still told everybody
31:51
and even in that it's like all right
31:52
well we gonna go here we have to be on
31:55
p's and q's because dude here and it
31:57
still could have still happened like you
31:58
just you know what I'm saying like so I
32:00
think that that's what I think that was
32:02
a very very lazy Porsche like thing of
32:04
the show all right so I think
32:07
real quick and because she saw him
32:10
already she saw that game oh yeah she
32:12
didn't so if we would have been able to
32:13
have her sit down and give them that
32:15
like that story it should have been a
32:17
sport it should have been a boogie man a
32:19
ghost story about this dude that's there
32:22
to that point
32:24
wait you ain't do anything yo it's a
32:27
[ __ ] down there on some real scary [ __ ]
32:29
especially regardless said I think he
32:31
can't get out on the off chance that he
32:33
gotta I'm telling someone well
32:35
especially because hope says hope also
32:38
when she remember she was like why y'all
32:39
didn't ask me about hope it's like I've
32:41
been I've been asking
32:42
you know day one like where you've been
32:44
going down so she had ample opportunity
32:47
to tell this story so like no that would
32:50
be my that's the only thing I really
32:51
that that to me is the best that's what
32:53
ruined like that's what made it like why
32:55
everybody can be like this wasn't needed
32:56
because it's like you didn't make the
32:58
story yeah
32:59
yeah for me it just it didn't feel like
33:02
it all fit together like I said one like
33:05
I was saying earlier
33:07
the the story for Kang granted he was
33:10
menacing he was doing everything that he
33:12
needed to do his whole plot point was
33:14
really hey I am bad but those other
33:17
[ __ ] are working
33:19
we got that already but I love that I
33:21
think I love that because I think that's
33:22
a cane thing like you they're always
33:24
going to talk about the fact it's always
33:25
gonna be more Kings that's definitely
33:27
not too cold though too but what I just
33:30
I didn't what I didn't like was every
33:32
time I would
33:35
I was dead nobody had a really a bad
33:38
acting job nah but it was always just
33:40
like just
33:41
fit together and I just always felt
33:44
myself coming back together like
33:46
doing that in this
33:48
like you know y'all this this could have
33:51
worked so much but like if if they would
33:53
have put the Thanos route where Modoc
33:55
was the main villain here
33:57
and we sort of King is that overarching
34:00
menacing thing where it's like if if
34:03
modox feel like he's [ __ ] up he's
34:04
like [ __ ] I don't want to go back to the
34:05
boss for this and you start you can see
34:07
Kane more than once in this film with
34:09
having him just do that sort of booming
34:12
figure in the dark
34:13
it would have worked so much better for
34:15
me yeah but that's why I think that's
34:18
why I mean I get that I think that's why
34:19
I agree I have to understand that the
34:22
magnitude of the king like everyone's
34:24
waiting for the actual Kane like the one
34:27
that we want and even I don't feel like
34:29
this one still is like I feel like it so
34:30
it is I was gonna say let's get into
34:32
some Theory yeah all right so my first
34:33
my first theory is when he got sucked
34:36
into the red that was the moment when
34:38
when the king said that some [ __ ]
34:40
changed so my theory is that King The
34:43
King that we saw is actually he will
34:44
remain
34:46
yeah because so remember in his
34:48
monologue he who remains he said that he
34:51
said look you can either kill me and we
34:52
can you can stop my journey into here he
34:54
said no he said uh she said or uh you
34:57
know he said either you uh let me live
35:00
and I continue my journey or you kill me
35:02
and then it's the whole multiversal [ __ ]
35:05
happened and it just I just end up right
35:06
here again right so here's what I think
35:09
the king that we saw he's actually
35:11
Victor Lively who it's going to turn
35:13
into he remains because remember the
35:16
whole thing about he who remains and
35:17
Kane the difference between them two I
35:19
mean the same the similarities between
35:21
them two is they both was like Hey I
35:24
don't like these other [ __ ] and I need
35:25
to get rid of them because remember he
35:26
who remains was the last one he survived
35:29
the Multiverse award so that could that
35:31
would mean I believe Exxon yeah and then
35:33
so this came going and the reason why I
35:36
think that he turns into he who remains
35:38
this King could not travel without the
35:41
chair but he got sucked into the orb his
35:42
chair and everything I believe that when
35:44
he comes out he now has the capability
35:47
to travel without his chair because
35:48
that's the king the big the king he
35:51
don't need a chair he can travel without
35:52
his chair and so he's gonna he's gonna
35:54
absorb the abilities being sucked into
35:56
that room and everything but he got
35:58
thrown into the past and so now he's
36:00
Victor timely he's like damn okay I need
36:02
to get back but I need to get them I
36:04
need to get the materials I need to and
36:06
so he creates this facade of Victor
36:08
timely because in the comics Victor
36:10
timely is not a variant he's a he's a
36:13
disguise of Kane out of everybody else
36:15
all the other variants is either
36:17
characters who killed the king and like
36:19
adopted it or is it is a very in the
36:21
king but Victor timely is King the
36:23
Conqueror going back and then also the
36:26
last confused as [ __ ] bro hearing you
36:28
bro
36:30
like I'm hearing but I'm like as you're
36:32
saying to throw this [ __ ] just sounds
36:33
like circles bro it is circles so this
36:36
is the last Circle that's connected
36:39
what is your name right and he was like
36:42
well some people call me this the
36:43
Conqueror and then this game identifies
36:46
the Conqueror none of those other kings
36:47
did well we don't know but they
36:49
technically we think none of the other
36:50
ones did right so if there if there's
36:52
not two conquerors there's the there's a
36:55
king the Conqueror and if you are that
36:57
person who's the last one that remains
36:58
in it that's that's my big Theory so
37:00
you're saying that he who remains is
37:01
like they're both the same person yeah
37:03
because remember
37:04
side of time yes they remember his his
37:07
life isn't linear because because he's
37:10
excited yeah
37:12
so so he so when when they when they
37:14
killed them at the end
37:15
he it reset everything and came the
37:18
Conqueror who's the one like it started
37:20
everything to be fair that's why I think
37:22
I I do agree with that theory and I
37:24
think they told you in plain I think
37:26
they told you in plain fact when they
37:27
said kangaroo return they're not I don't
37:29
think that they were talking about King
37:31
in general I think they're letting you
37:33
know like yo yeah
37:35
like I like so like my thing my theory
37:38
is that he is somewhere where uh like I
37:42
feel like all of that like when we we're
37:44
all trying to find us like when did he
37:46
like he remained to be like this is it
37:48
but I feel like him the connection with
37:51
Scarlets would start searching through
37:52
everything like where he got sucked in
37:54
that red flash I feel like it's in where
37:56
like wherever Scarlet Witch really is
37:58
like that's like so I feel like the
38:00
reason he's like I don't know what
38:01
happens now is because like you're
38:03
saying he probably does always get out
38:04
and this was the first time it was like
38:06
wait no I didn't get out I got sick
38:10
I didn't think about that I got system
38:12
works like so he like I feel like he
38:13
always knows he gets out if you're
38:15
saying it's a circle yeah so it's like
38:16
this is the time where it's like he's
38:17
like I don't know what happens now
38:19
because either where do you that he said
38:20
whether you kill me or not I'm gonna be
38:22
back but he really was also the moment
38:24
where he's like wait I don't know what
38:25
the [ __ ] just happened now like I don't
38:26
know like he might always know like you
38:29
said to that point yeah you might always
38:30
know that like y'all gonna kill me or
38:32
something and I'm gonna start over but
38:33
he was like oh the original like the
38:36
original me didn't get out like this
38:38
[ __ ] is actually somewhere else
38:39
now like and it could be but I that was
38:42
the one thing I've been telling people
38:43
is that obviously we knew Kane was going
38:47
to return yeah no reason for you to have
38:49
to add that because we knew there was
38:51
gonna be the next movie is called Kane
38:53
Davis yeah and then think about their
38:55
like he remains and and Kane's whole
38:58
speech his whole motivation is to x out
39:01
the rest of him right introducing us to
39:03
another variant and making him the big
39:05
bad just like you removing the motive
39:07
right you're removing the motive this we
39:09
know he who remains his motive and why
39:11
he was the last one is because he
39:13
outlasted all the other kings so and we
39:16
started over and you have this king who
39:18
got X out and it's like look my motive
39:19
is this it'll be weird for them to and
39:21
they matter yeah they're meant like I
39:24
don't know yeah I was selling Deuces
39:26
earlier
39:27
him and he who remain their mannerisms
39:30
were so similar granted we didn't see
39:31
long enough any of the other kings right
39:33
but that little nervous tick that we
39:35
were talking about earlier yeah like
39:37
this I mean I definitely look at it like
39:39
that like that it could be new remains
39:41
they had they had that they had very
39:42
much the same mannerisms and
39:46
again it's just it's so it seems like
39:49
they fit together and then even though
39:51
we said we call them the Council of
39:52
Kings they all have names right but Kane
39:55
the conquerors came to conquer right
39:57
because they got rheumatoid they got the
39:59
you know they all have other names
40:01
Victor timely is a name but that girl I
40:03
told you that's a disguise but there's
40:05
only one king the Conqueror and that's
40:08
why I believe that remains yeah okay if
40:11
they say king is coming if King is going
40:13
to return then it's yeah it's Kane
40:14
because he's the only one that I did
40:15
because even he remains he was like I
40:17
mean they call me this they call me that
40:19
you know and he who remains like he
40:21
didn't say I'm gay he never he did yeah
40:23
but this one said [ __ ] I am King but I
40:26
mean that would make I mean that was
40:27
like I mean I guess that would make
40:28
sense if you're like if I say it's the
40:29
same person because I mean he would be
40:31
Kane to conqueror up until he's the last
40:32
[ __ ] that's remaining
40:34
yeah
40:36
like you all knowing that you like the
40:38
letter yeah never even specifically said
40:41
I'm he said oh she still calls me that
40:43
oh he never he never said yeah yeah
40:49
she's calling him that Miss minutes seen
40:51
the universal War she was there so he
40:54
when they specifically asked him he said
40:56
oh she's still calling me that so I mean
40:58
that makes it because I mean because
40:59
that even would make sense that would
41:01
even make sense from what you said like
41:03
even when she touched the ship and
41:05
thought because I mean you saw him
41:06
already wipe everybody like you saw him
41:08
do this already right and he's like damn
41:10
I can't let you back out of here
41:12
that's why I said that's the change in
41:14
my mind is because
41:17
um he was gonna leave regardless but
41:19
they had to really stop him oh yeah you
41:21
know what I'm saying so he did
41:22
everything to get out but they stopped
41:23
him from getting out and now sent them
41:24
somewhere else so that's what he was
41:26
saying like I feel like when he when he
41:27
was saying like I'm always gonna come
41:29
back but like I said that's why I said
41:31
for me that change of that was the
41:33
change yeah was the fact that we you got
41:35
you did the story get your [ __ ] fixed
41:36
and you get out but now and that's why
41:38
you said like now this will be a king
41:39
without the Ship Without everything
41:41
because you were foiled so you are
41:43
literally a different yeah King the
41:45
Conqueror now oh yes they are like and
41:47
then that would make it menacing like I
41:48
said that's the main thing like the
41:50
great thing is like I'm I'm excited to
41:52
see where his menacing goes because I
41:55
feel I so here's what I do believe I do
41:56
believe somebody from the am family is
41:58
going to die I believe that when Kane
42:00
come across them again oh he's on there
42:02
oh yeah somebody like I feel like he is
42:04
Old Navy because they [ __ ] up
42:07
everything he's like wait a minute like
42:08
if you think about it you already
42:10
disrespected Ant-Man but now Ant-Man
42:12
foiled you so now you like these this
42:14
when I see this [ __ ] again I am
42:17
stomping on this [ __ ] like you
42:18
are like yeah
42:21
like I feel like I feel like the canines
42:23
is gonna pretty much at least start
42:24
because even with the uncertainty of
42:26
like of whatchamacallit he needs the
42:29
confirmation like how we like how Thanos
42:31
was like people got word of Thanos
42:33
because he started like I'm on your ass
42:35
it was like I feel like Ant-Man like
42:37
ant-man's gonna be the one at least
42:39
that's gonna tell the adventures about
42:40
what's going on so I got a big ass
42:42
Theory what I hope they do but I know
42:44
Hollywood ain't gonna do it because of
42:45
money and time and everything like that
42:47
but I was like okay we thinking about
42:49
the Council of Kings we just saw a [ __ ]
42:50
ton of Kings what I would love for
42:52
Marvel to do to kind of really
42:55
um push that Kang is a beast is I'd want
42:59
every show up until the Kanga Dynasty I
43:01
mean the the uh the uh
43:06
Dynasty I want every show every movie
43:09
The Villain to be a variant of Kane
43:10
because here's why I because you say if
43:14
you hear rumors
43:18
yeah cause the reason why is think about
43:21
it this way you got a series right and
43:23
you dealing with romantic whatever right
43:25
and you like thought you spent that
43:27
whole season dealing with this Menace
43:28
and you get them out of there and you're
43:30
like yeah [ __ ] I did it only to find
43:31
out like I ain't even the worst [ __ ]
43:33
that's another [ __ ] right now we get
43:35
into a digital every King is gonna be
43:37
like it's a better it's more than me
43:38
like the push out but I want that
43:40
because then the world because then
43:41
that's how you get the Avengers because
43:43
now people are like wait a minute I was
43:44
dealing with one and you know and now
43:46
everybody comes here
43:48
I like the idea but I also feel like I
43:51
would then by the time they really fight
43:52
I'll be kind of irritated with so many
43:54
games but the way that Jonathan Majors
43:56
is playing them because they're so
43:57
different in characteristics like you
44:00
can have a you can have like you know
44:02
what I'm saying and he's not as menacing
44:07
like there's more like it's always gonna
44:09
be like a there's sorry Mario the
44:11
princess is in another Castle hey but
44:13
that's what I wanted what they saying
44:15
for King Dynasty because the writer who
44:18
wrote this I think his writing came
44:19
Dynasty if I remember correctly oh okay
44:23
there was um there was a thing where he
44:25
was talking to some of like you know
44:27
they were talking about an interview
44:27
with him he was like for some of
44:29
Marvel's more bloodthirsty fans this
44:31
little movie called King Dynasty coming
44:33
up about the kill now so it sounded like
44:36
he about to kill [ __ ] he might be
44:38
coming back and he sort of alluded to
44:40
what we were saying earlier the fact
44:42
that Kane clearly isn't dead he sort of
44:44
kind of alluded to that because he kept
44:46
talking about the Conqueror is going to
44:48
have the Conqueror is going to have uh
44:50
yeah I mean and that's why I said like I
44:52
feel like I feel like like even like you
44:53
said like the how how he got sent away
44:55
like not using ship whatever like the
44:57
fact like the fact that we know he's not
44:59
in the realm anymore he's going to learn
45:01
travel oh yeah like he's really going to
45:04
learn how to get where he needs to be
45:05
whatever the powers that's in that cube
45:07
in that chair is going to be with it
45:08
it's gonna be with you know something so
45:09
now it's going to be like so I do get
45:11
that yeah where it's gonna be the fact
45:12
that this [ __ ] is gonna appear and but
45:14
that's why I think I feel like it's
45:15
gonna be like that is going to be a
45:16
really what they've all been trying to
45:18
push out is all like you know the whole
45:19
Multiverse all this kind of [ __ ] so it's
45:21
going to really be a team hitting all
45:23
these multiverses terrorizing things
45:24
like we're going to see a lot of
45:26
Avengers and different people was
45:27
because he's attacking literally no so
45:30
you made me think about something so my
45:32
theory I still want to rock with it
45:33
right I want them but it's not the
45:36
heroes to feed them I want I want the
45:37
heroes to get to that point where it
45:39
looks like they about to it's they about
45:40
to be over and then conqueror appears
45:42
but no chair no nothing knocks out that
45:45
King can bounce back out cause now you
45:47
left with like I know that I was about
45:48
to be defeated who the [ __ ] was that
45:50
that looked like the person that was
45:51
fighting that just defeated him because
45:53
now at the Avengers you got to get
45:54
together like look I was dealing with
45:55
this guy and some other guy popped up
45:57
like oh what and then they like oh was
45:58
it the guy with the hair like uh
46:00
honestly like no no no he look like a
46:02
robot like wait there's another one
46:03
because now you call it yeah
46:09
Archer believe they keep saying that is
46:11
it gonna pop up to show up so he may not
46:13
be the biggest show but imagine you are
46:17
in something you just like who the [ __ ]
46:18
was doing yeah I mean yeah and he just
46:21
kind of fun like I mean because I mean I
46:22
definitely like they can do the Thanos
46:24
wrote because they they can always
46:25
overseas
46:27
okay so they definitely want to have him
46:29
so he's not overlooking [ __ ] he's gonna
46:30
be in the trenches
46:31
he gonna be just like all right hold on
46:35
I feel like every time that he shows up
46:37
either somebody getting beat to a pulp
46:39
or he's killing somebody he's taking
46:40
he's taking out he might be taking out
46:42
different variants because he got to
46:43
because yeah
46:46
like like Marvel's good at trying to or
46:48
you know trying to copy a story
46:49
somewhere so the game Dynasty literally
46:51
has to be jelly to one but he has to
46:53
just kind of appear in [ __ ] lives yeah
46:55
they're like you gotta get you you gotta
46:57
scare [ __ ] I got a really good
46:58
question that I want to ask you guys
47:01
moving forward and this would be the
47:02
only question I ask with everything that
47:04
they've been setting it up
47:06
are you guys excited for the Young
47:07
Avengers because and I'll start I am not
47:10
they have that they have not introduced
47:12
me to one young Avenger
47:14
that I'm like oh I can't wait to see
47:16
them on the big screen Cassie I don't
47:18
really care for it Kate Bishop I really
47:20
don't care for even on her uh my heart
47:24
yeah I mean
47:26
well they might do it they might do it
47:28
for her but and then um Iron lad yeah
47:31
which is which is another king
47:33
um
47:34
um the the young uh Captain America why
47:36
can't I think his name right now
47:38
not nowhere
47:41
Isaiah Bradley's nephew grandson but him
47:44
I'm like first name yeah I see him I'm
47:46
like I don't care like I'm not right now
47:50
I'm not here for the new Avengers or the
47:54
Young Avengers that's that's right I
47:56
don't want the older like I don't want
47:57
to literally live my life literally just
47:58
watching the oldest no no I don't want
47:59
to but I'm saying like Marvel hasn't did
48:01
a good job at getting me excited because
48:03
like even like when they think about the
48:04
new Avengers like outs the only new
48:07
character that I'm excited for right now
48:08
that I accept is Yelena
48:11
okay Elena is the only one because even
48:14
with Moon Knight I I rock with Moon
48:16
Knight but I'm like I don't do I really
48:17
want to see him on Avengers level and so
48:19
I want to get like y'all are y'all
48:21
excited for the new Avengers at all like
48:22
I mean I really haven't paid attention
48:24
to it so I really don't I don't think
48:26
I don't really I don't I like it Eli
48:30
yeah I don't really I don't know I mean
48:32
they haven't showed enough that's what
48:33
I'm saying like for me to care well I
48:34
mean they're just trying to set it out
48:35
of mind they're trying to set it up to
48:38
the characters in general like I'm not
48:39
committed to it like even though you I
48:41
think the characters are pretty much a
48:42
replacement of the same characters I
48:43
don't care to see the same characters
48:44
again but so are you know so you want to
48:48
see Kate Bishop take over them no I
48:49
don't want to see another Hawkeye
48:51
with the same well yeah because my
48:53
character I said that there's so many
48:55
variations of the Avengers that they
48:58
should lean into remember Wolverine was
49:00
an Avenger Mr Fantastic was Avengers
49:06
point of no I'm not excited because I'm
49:08
more excited for stuff like the
49:10
Fantastic Four or they're bringing in
49:11
X-Men yeah those are the ones I care
49:14
more about because that's really that's
49:15
really the new like I feel like once you
49:18
bring those franchise like those movies
49:19
in then you are going to start piecing
49:21
people from and that's for those to make
49:23
a new event and I just hope that I hope
49:24
they do a better job at setting them up
49:26
for it so yeah man y'all let us know in
49:28
the comments first first things first I
49:30
want to know y'all theories where is
49:32
King what is going to happen with King
49:33
and everything put that in the comments
49:35
and also let us know man one out of five
49:37
eagles what are you rating Ant-Man and
49:39
the waps and Quantum mania this is
49:48
wife and
49:50
Dad
49:53
what's your rate in condominium but as
49:55
always this is the only podcast that
49:57
blend hip hop culture and geek coaching
49:58
together that was sponsored that was in
50:00
four people saying sponsored by four
50:01
yeah I don't know we can get sponsored
50:03
yeah hope we get sponsored yeah but that
50:05
was in Forbes and we are out peace
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