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The man responsible for some of the biggest hits in R&B history is back in the building. From Rihanna to Beyonce, The Dream has shaped the sound of a generation, and now he is opening up about his journey, his legacy, and his highly anticipated new music.
In this exclusive interview on Sway in the Morning, Terius Nash, better known as The-Dream, takes us behind the scenes of his creative process and his upcoming project Love Hate 2. He shares incredible stories from his childhood in Atlanta, the heartbreak of losing his first piano, and the moment he realized his impact on the industry after the success of Umbrella.
The conversation gets deep as he explains the powerful reason behind his name change and the history of his family legacy. He also provides a rare look into his working relationships with icons like Usher and Jay-Z, explaining how he navigates the industry while maintaining his spiritual integrity and grace.
Stay tuned until the end for a massive announcement regarding a secret collaborative album with 2 Chainz that was recorded in just three days. This is a masterclass in music, business, and life from one of the greatest songwriters of our time.
Chapters
0:00 Intro and celebrating a virtuoso
3:15 Atlanta music and church roots
7:40 The story of the missing piano
10:20 Losing the Grammy for Umbrella
13:50 Working with Usher and creative friction
18:15 Finding his artist sound for Love Hate 2
22:45 Overcoming self doubt and life lessons
27:30 Reclaiming legacy and the name DeYampert
32:15 Handling adversity and public perception
36:40 Jay-Z and the Roots Picnic freestyle
40:20 Unreleased music with Ne-Yo
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Listen, Tracy, I'm going to let you do
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the honor because
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>> [cheering]
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>> even when he's not here
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>> [laughter]
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>> you celebrate this man.
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>> He passing it to you.
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>> He passing it to you.
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>> So, Tracy, can you break it down and put
0:13
it in perspective who we have here?
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>> bro. Citizen squad, um but especially
0:19
the citizens, if you have been a long
0:21
time listener of Sway in the Morning,
0:24
then you know that I have been very
0:27
vocal about my admiration for this
0:31
virtuoso who many, including myself, to
0:34
be the caviar of R&B. And he has penned
0:40
quite the mountain of hits for such a
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wide field of artists, including but not
0:47
limited to Rihanna, including but not
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limited to Beyoncé, Justin Bieber,
0:53
Drake, Jay-Z. We can bring in the men to
0:56
this, as well.
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>> Thank you.
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>> [laughter]
0:58
>> And as impressive as a roster of names
1:02
that is, that's not even when I got
1:04
locked in, citizen Sway. I got locked in
1:08
2007
1:09
when he debuted what I believe to be one
1:14
of the most spectacular
1:16
and vital projects of the 21st century,
1:20
Love Hate. And don't even get me started
1:23
on Love vs. Money, just a couple years
1:26
after that, because I will just be like
1:28
a faucet. I will not be able to to stop.
1:30
So, I just have to say right here, right
1:34
now that the man who was who is with us
1:37
is he's irreplaceable.
1:40
>> I see what you did right there.
1:42
>> He is astounding.
1:44
And he is on Sway in the Morning to
1:47
promote his upcoming album, almost 20
1:50
years from his debut, with the
1:52
incomparable
1:56
creative renaissance man himself, the
1:58
dream.
1:59
>> Wow, I'mma give a standing ovation for
2:02
that. That was amazing. [applause]
2:04
>> If that don't If that [ __ ] guy right
2:06
there
2:06
>> Yo, if that don't go on an album
2:08
interlude
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>> [laughter]
2:10
>> No profanity at the win at the end it
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wins Trace.
2:14
Cherry on top.
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Send me that I I need that.
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>> No, I'm doing that. I'mma send you that.
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That should be Man, I should have said
2:21
something in there so my voice will make
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the album.
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>> [laughter]
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>> No, man, the truth just happens to be a
2:27
compliment, bro.
2:28
>> man.
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>> But that's where we at with it.
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>> Thank you.
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>> Yeah.
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We here to celebrate you, bro. You know,
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um
2:36
You You every time you come up here,
2:38
man, your your energy, your disposition,
2:40
you know, beyond our titles and what we
2:42
do in music business and entertainment,
2:45
we didn't do this for the business. You
2:47
You're a creator because that's what's
2:49
in your heart. That's what's in your
2:50
blood. The business comes with it,
2:53
right? And I'm the same way. Same with
2:55
Have to Be, you know, same with Tracy as
2:58
well, you know, we're we're like that,
3:00
but sometimes it's good to
3:02
bask in your own accomplishments and you
3:06
didn't say it, Tracy said it, but when
3:07
you hear it, man, how does that make you
3:09
feel?
3:10
>> Man,
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you know, um
3:15
honestly,
3:17
I mean, just speaking in in the in in
3:20
that
3:20
you know, in that vein of of why we do a
3:23
thing,
3:24
you know,
3:25
um ever since I was young
3:29
and I and I say this a lot. Like, yeah,
3:31
I wasn't thinking about how much I was
3:33
going to get or this or that. Like, I
3:35
love this so much
3:39
from when I was little. Like, watching
3:42
And when you're in Atlanta and you're
3:43
young
3:45
and the music at that particular point
3:46
in time, especially late '80s, early
3:48
'90s,
3:50
um was everywhere. Our business of music
3:53
in the city wasn't everywhere. We didn't
3:55
you know, we knew what it was because if
3:57
you went to church you had you was
3:59
First of all, you in the choir. If you
4:00
go to church
4:02
they don't care. You don't got to
4:03
audition. Come here why?
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>> [laughter]
4:06
>> Get on up there. Stand right there.
4:08
That time in how my anatomy was put
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together along with
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just even music in schools at that point
4:17
in time I'm so blessed for starting to
4:20
play the trumpet in the third grade.
4:24
Watching VCR tapes of Grambling.
4:29
Jackson State. Yeah. Like with my
4:31
friends. Like that was a thing. Like
4:33
let's see what the marching 100 with
4:36
Florida A&M did.
4:37
Like let's sit and watch. Now it sounds,
4:40
how big it is. And so excited about band
4:46
music then you have Atlanta's going
4:49
through this thing in the 90s where
4:50
there's groups coming out. There's
4:52
Dungeon Family over there. Like this
4:54
magical
4:56
thing is happening.
4:58
And you realize at that point like yo,
5:01
not only do I love it, the city loves
5:03
it. This wasn't the the money kind of
5:05
came for all of us after that. Like we
5:07
didn't know that you can make that type
5:09
of money like until you seen certain
5:11
people with certain things and you're
5:13
like
5:13
oh, that's how you paying your rent. We
5:15
had no idea. You know, we thought we was
5:17
going to do this music thing out of love
5:19
and then get paid for something else
5:21
over here.
5:23
And of course to even be blessed to get
5:24
that from something that you love so
5:26
much. So to hear it
5:28
in that way I always just go back to
5:31
those things. Things that nobody would
5:34
ever even guess there was a
5:36
the my my heart was the first time my
5:38
heart was broken in a musical way and
5:40
I've never told anybody this was my
5:42
grandfather had this old piano in the
5:44
living room.
5:46
And it was definitely out of tune and
5:48
everything, but I loved that piano and I
5:50
didn't even understand what it would
5:51
mean to get it tuned up. Like it was
5:53
just it's old, you know, I don't know
5:56
how pianos work in that particular type
5:58
of way.
5:59
But I never said anything to him about
6:01
it and one day I came home and it was
6:02
gone.
6:03
>> Mhm.
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>> Mhm.
6:05
>> And I just cried. Cried for so long.
6:09
And he he's a cement mason. He's like,
6:11
"Boy, what you crying for, boy?"
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>> [laughter]
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>> Cool raggedy thing and
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>> No, I really want It's the first time
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>> Damn.
6:19
>> I saw my grandfather break face of that
6:23
kind of like man thing
6:25
>> Mhm.
6:25
>> and knew he had did a disservice in a
6:28
certain type of way. He had no idea I
6:30
loved that piano.
6:31
>> Mhm.
6:32
>> And he In his mind he's like, "How did I
6:34
miss?
6:35
I had no idea.
6:37
I sold it. Like I didn't
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And um that was the first time I knew
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though
6:42
that I loved music that much.
6:46
>> Wow.
6:47
>> And so when I hear something like that,
6:48
that's what it takes me back to all of
6:50
those
6:51
small triumphs as even a child to get
6:54
here.
6:54
>> And they all add up, man. They all
6:57
>> Wow, man. [ __ ] the dream is here, guys.
7:00
This is beautiful, man.
7:02
Um
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You said that was the first time
7:05
>> Mhm.
7:06
>> that your heart was broken in music and
7:08
that was before you was who you are now.
7:10
>> Yes.
7:11
>> What was the first time being who you
7:13
are now that your heart was broken
7:15
through music?
7:16
>> Oh, man.
7:18
I don't want to I don't think it was
7:20
like a heart breaking thing, but it was
7:22
kind of
7:24
after we wrote Umbrella, um shout out to
7:26
Tricky um Stewart.
7:28
>> Tricky Stewart, the legend. Come on.
7:31
>> By the way, he's yeah, yeah, yeah and
7:32
Songwriters Hall of Fame, he just went
7:34
in.
7:34
>> Yeah, yeah. Congratulations.
7:36
>> Yeah, that's that's my guy.
7:37
Um
7:39
when we lost to wait Winehouse for
7:41
Umbrella for Song of the year?
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>> Uh-huh.
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>> THAT HURT YOUR HEART.
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>> [laughter]
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>> SHE WAS DEAD?
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>> NO.
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>> I DON'T think so. I think she was still
7:52
She was still alive? Okay.
7:54
>> Yo. Yo.
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>> I think it was rehab.
7:57
>> Yo.
7:58
>> Mhm.
7:58
>> Yo.
7:59
>> Wow.
8:00
>> That was a little
8:01
>> You cared though.
8:02
>> What?
8:04
And everybody was just happy to be there
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and I UNDERSTOOD THAT I
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>> [laughter]
8:09
>> UNDERSTOOD THAT I NEEDED TO BE HAPPY TO
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be there.
8:13
I understood it.
8:14
Um
8:15
And as most things I come off in that
8:17
type of a
8:19
I'm glad I lived long enough for people
8:21
to say, "Oh, I understand you now. I
8:23
thought you was like no, I drove to
8:25
Vegas and went to the studio
8:27
immediately. I missed all of the Grammy
8:29
after party. I was like, "I don't want
8:30
to see nobody."
8:32
I'll go right back to work. I was like,
8:34
"Uh-uh."
8:35
I can't believe I just lost and I
8:37
understood Everybody was like, "Yo, it's
8:39
your first time being nominated." Blah
8:40
blah blah and I'm like,
8:41
>> You didn't care, huh?
8:42
>> That's cool.
8:43
>> That's why I asked cuz posthumously, you
8:45
know, sometimes you just got to take the
8:47
L.
8:47
>> I would have rather that actually.
8:49
>> Like, "Hey man, I get it." I get it.
8:52
>> Do accolades hold the same weight for
8:53
you today?
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>> I think it was just the arrival.
8:57
>> Yeah.
8:57
>> Right.
8:58
>> That was disrupted.
9:00
>> And
9:01
>> And no matter how
9:03
good you think you are
9:05
um I never had the ego over the idea
9:09
that we all are on God's time.
9:12
>> Mhm.
9:13
>> I can't stop your blessings the same way
9:15
I can't stop like you can't stop mine.
9:17
So if my time was if that would have
9:21
been my time, my work ethic still
9:24
couldn't do nothing about it. I was
9:26
going to do everything in my power to do
9:28
my part.
9:29
>> Mhm.
9:29
>> But I could have missed a certain moment
9:31
I felt like no, this song changed
9:34
everything and I'm this is
9:36
>> And it ain't going to win It didn't win.
9:37
>> It didn't win. Wow, it's so funny cuz
9:39
from the time you started sharing the
9:41
story about your grandfather and being a
9:43
little boy in the church, it made me
9:45
think about you spiritually and what
9:47
that must have been like. But I think a
9:49
lot of times when we're introduced in
9:50
this industry so young and like you
9:52
said, you see people with things and now
9:54
you could pay for this and buy that. But
9:57
at what age, if you could remember and
9:59
don't mind sharing, when did
10:00
spirituality in terms of decision-making
10:04
and and and who would you would work
10:05
with and how you approach songs and your
10:07
timing that you mentioned earlier when
10:10
thing When did that start to kick in?
10:12
>> Oh, man.
10:13
Um I I feel like that was almost like a
10:15
um parallel life thing. When I lost my
10:19
mother at 15, so
10:21
>> Wow.
10:21
>> my
10:22
I had to be very distinctive in a
10:25
certain type of way about what I was
10:27
feeling and trying to make sure I got it
10:29
right with who I was feeling that thing
10:31
with.
10:32
>> Mhm.
10:32
>> Mhm.
10:32
>> Mhm.
10:33
>> So, allowing a thing that got me because
10:35
I didn't have those parents and fixtures
10:37
that we spoke I didn't have those
10:39
things. My grandfather would live like
10:41
four more years past that. My dad I had
10:43
never met before in my life and my
10:45
grandmother I had never met before. So,
10:47
I didn't have these surroundings of like
10:51
>> village
10:52
>> muscle, you know? So, I had to think
10:54
about
10:56
feeling a lot
10:58
in everything. Um so, whoever I work
11:01
with um and when it's that that started
11:04
at 15 and it never stopped even to this
11:06
day. Now, you can catch me on a day
11:08
where I'm just
11:09
I'll feel bad about something or in a
11:12
certain type of way and work with
11:14
somebody and go against my feeling
11:15
because of just how the world kind of
11:17
presents itself to you and say, "Oh,
11:19
cool. I'm going to work with this
11:20
person." But in my other spiritual self,
11:22
like
11:23
like don't do it.
11:24
>> Don't do it.
11:25
>> And then you do it and you're like, "I
11:26
knew I shouldn't WORK WITH YOU."
11:28
>> [laughter]
11:29
>> YEP.
11:30
I KNEW IT. I KNEW IT. WHERE DID THIS
11:33
PERSON COME [laughter] FROM? DAMN.
11:34
>> That's that's that's when they call it
11:36
you you called me on a good day.
11:38
>> [laughter]
11:39
>> You know your parents like yeah you
11:40
called me on a good day. I'm going to
11:41
get you these Jordans today but I don't
11:42
really you don't deserve them.
11:43
>> You don't deserve them.
11:44
>> Yeah man that so it I try to keep it
11:47
there but I do understand that I'm in
11:51
I'm in charge I'm I'm charged with a
11:53
different type of thing and I try not
11:56
it's really hard though to keep your
11:59
your feeling of about a thing and also
12:01
to make sure that you're not blocking
12:03
something for somebody else. So I try to
12:05
keep that door as open as I can without
12:07
getting
12:08
shanked while I'm while I'm in that
12:10
doorway
12:11
and this industry is pretty hard.
12:13
>> That's hard to do man cuz they're
12:15
throwing something at you everyday.
12:17
The dream is here man he's promoting his
12:19
forthcoming album Love Hate 2.
12:22
>> Yes.
12:22
>> The new single Tampa got my man Usher
12:24
you can't go wrong with Usher.
12:26
>> Hey.
12:27
>> Man you cannot go wrong with Usher.
12:29
Gods.
12:30
>> And you know man Usher man I I just you
12:33
know
12:34
to me Usher could have a he could give a
12:36
course like I can see Usher teaching a
12:39
course
12:40
on being an artist.
12:42
>> We were talking about
12:42
>> I I look
12:43
I look cuz look I've known Usher since
12:45
he was 13.
12:47
>> He gets it.
12:47
>> Yeah and I watched his career and and
12:50
how he's how he has sustained and who he
12:54
is now if you could just empty that mind
12:56
of all the wisdom and information and
12:59
the hacks that he has and that he's
13:01
obtained
13:03
and then to see you two together what
13:04
what what do what is it we don't know
13:06
about Usher that you realize?
13:09
>> I feel like
13:12
he's so much of an of an artist and I
13:15
also know that Ush overthinks a lot.
13:18
>> Okay.
13:18
>> Personally I know that. It drives me
13:20
nuts cuz I'm usually like
13:24
he knows like he's great.
13:26
>> Mhm. He's a know-how great sometimes.
13:28
He'd be pissing me off.
13:30
>> Mhm.
13:30
>> I'd be like, "Bro, what are we doing?" I
13:33
literally had fired myself. Like, I'm
13:34
like, "I'm not talking to you right
13:36
now."
13:36
>> Wait, you fired yourself?
13:38
>> I've never heard of that.
13:39
>> "I just I'd rather be a friend, and I
13:41
don't want to go back and forth about no
13:43
songs or nothing. I'm going to fire
13:45
myself today. I'm just going to just go
13:46
ahead and
13:48
white towel. I'm good."
13:50
>> [laughter]
13:51
>> No, literally. Um you know, it's the
13:53
funniest relationship ever in in life.
13:56
And um and that thing
13:59
you would think like, "Oh, straight
14:01
ahead on all of these all of these
14:03
things." And I think he's done it at
14:05
such a high level for so long.
14:08
Um sometimes when you're doing it up
14:10
there for so long, you start to question
14:13
things for no reason. It's just in the
14:14
air.
14:14
>> Yeah.
14:15
>> And so um and to watch it when it
14:17
happens in certain times where it can be
14:20
two weeks removed, and he'll just jump
14:22
back up, and he just looks like that
14:25
unicorn again. I'm like, "Oh, there he
14:27
goes. I don't know where you got it
14:28
from, but yeah, keep going back to that
14:29
well and bringing that over here. I'm
14:32
going to rehire MYSELF TODAY." LIKE,
14:34
>> [laughter]
14:35
>> I'M GOING TO REHIRE MYSELF. I HAVE 19
14:37
songs ready to go. Let's go.
14:39
>> Wow, get it, man. I love it.
14:41
>> And on rehiring yourself is interesting
14:43
cuz I was reading
14:44
the interview you did back in May with
14:46
Variety magazine with my guy Steven
14:48
Horowitz. And you had mentioned how you
14:50
kind of wanted to reacquaint yourself
14:53
with your own sound.
14:55
>> Yes.
14:55
>> Because you've been you've had a stretch
14:57
of time where you've been locked in with
14:59
Beyoncé, with so many different major
15:01
artists, and how you were thinking back
15:04
to what mic you were using in 2006.
15:07
>> What plugins?
15:08
>> No idea. Yo, [laughter] everybody was so
15:10
mad at me. My Shout out to my to my guy
15:13
who kind of runs the show in the studio,
15:15
um Bran, who's actually from the West
15:17
Coast over here.
15:17
>> Mhm.
15:18
>> Bran,
15:19
yeah, I gave him I gave him hell during
15:22
this album because literally I was like
15:25
you guys have like a billion plugins.
15:28
>> Mhm.
15:29
>> Why?
15:30
I just never you know as
15:32
>> favor. Explain to the listening audience
15:33
what a plugin is.
15:35
>> Plugins is different variations of sound
15:38
type of modules that you use whether
15:40
it's on your voice, on the instrument,
15:42
just extra decay and reverb blah blah
15:45
blah blah blah.
15:46
And I'm more of one of those simple type
15:48
of give me the regular classic D verb
15:51
reverb and just turn the mic on.
15:54
>> Mhm.
15:54
>> You know, and having your vocal chain
15:56
and your mic and everything sound when
15:59
you sound your best, you know, and my
16:01
voice is super high. And so I need
16:03
something super high end to cut through
16:06
those particular things. And then and
16:07
when you're writing
16:09
for a different voice,
16:10
that's probably not the mic you're
16:12
using.
16:13
And even though those songs are those
16:14
songs and they sound great on that other
16:16
person who has that probably just more
16:18
chest in there whatever it is. They're
16:20
more powerful of a singer. Whatever that
16:22
thing is.
16:24
For me I got lost
16:26
of what my sound was in that way of what
16:30
mic I was using, how um warm it should
16:34
be, what not. Can you hear my breaths in
16:37
between certain things? Some mics pick
16:39
up that, some mics don't. Um to a point
16:42
I won't tell anybody which mic I'm using
16:43
now. Now I get why artists are like I'm
16:46
not telling you what my vocal chain is.
16:48
>> Telephone something.
16:49
>> What's your vocal It's like what's your
16:50
vocal chain? It's like I'm not telling
16:52
>> [laughter]
16:53
>> You're so secretive. And now I've turned
16:54
into that person. Um those things yeah
16:58
kind of the the writing dream is
17:01
different from the artist's dream.
17:03
>> Mhm.
17:04
>> Which means the sound is different.
17:07
>> Can you also speak about the distinction
17:10
between studying yourself and repeating
17:14
a formula?
17:15
>> Right.
17:15
>> Because there are some artists you go
17:17
back in time, you flip through, you
17:19
know, your entire resume, but then they
17:21
end up in my opinion like chasing a past
17:24
version of themselves.
17:25
>> Bingo.
17:26
>> And the results just end up, I don't
17:28
know, either feeling dated or feeling
17:31
corny.
17:32
>> So, what's the difference between
17:33
studying yourself and not repeating a
17:36
formula?
17:36
>> Yeah, progressive is definitely a thing.
17:38
You have to be willing to understand
17:40
also, I think what starts that though is
17:42
lightning in a bottle and also if
17:45
something is you can't beat new. I don't
17:48
care who you are. Is you can't beat the
17:50
new version of yourself. There's no
17:52
dream version of anything where anybody
17:54
here is going to be surprised at
17:56
something that I know how to do.
17:57
You just not. It's either it's either
18:00
immensely in my storytelling of what I'm
18:02
going through right now, how
18:05
um cadence at that particular point in
18:07
time. All of these things other than the
18:10
new dream as as I can listen to my first
18:13
album and be like, "Ugh, ugh, God. I
18:15
could have sung that better." But the
18:16
fact that it was new, it came from a new
18:19
place, a new approach. Um I can't defeat
18:23
that part. No matter how great I could
18:26
sing a song
18:27
>> Mhm.
18:27
>> better than that version of Dream 20
18:29
years ago.
18:30
>> Yeah.
18:30
>> It's a newness of it. You're never going
18:33
to beat it and it takes a while to
18:34
understand what that becomes and it's
18:36
equivalent to I got this um 1994 SL 600
18:41
>> Mhm.
18:41
>> maybe a couple years ago.
18:42
>> Okay.
18:43
>> Ooh.
18:43
>> And I've always wanted that car.
18:46
>> Yeah.
18:46
>> And it's I found one it was 30,000 miles
18:48
and this lady gave it to me for $30,000.
18:50
Why she do that? I was like, "Yes, thank
18:52
you, God."
18:53
>> [laughter]
18:53
>> Um
18:53
>> You knew you ripped her off.
18:55
>> Yeah, so
18:56
she was like, "Get this thing out of
18:57
here."
18:57
>> Okay.
18:57
>> Um but
19:00
they've made so many SL versions since
19:02
then and then each time you think it's
19:04
like, "Oh, because it's new,
19:05
>> Mhm.
19:05
>> it's better."
19:06
>> Mhm.
19:07
>> And then you find yourself back at the
19:09
block with the mono, you know, the the
19:12
wheels on it. You definitely know what
19:13
I'm talking about. The belly one.
19:15
>> Yeah. Yeah.
19:16
>> And you're like, yo, y'all haven't beat
19:17
this car from then. It's no point in
19:19
even competing with that. Like that's
19:21
what it is. And so that's what love-hate
19:23
is. I'm not competing with Like so you
19:25
have to
19:26
So reality check. Like don't try to beat
19:28
that car.
19:29
>> Yeah. Yeah. I'm glad you brought that
19:31
around to love-hate cuz love-hate 2 I
19:33
was like, how you going to beat
19:35
love-hate? How you going to beat
19:36
>> I just I want to make sure it's together
19:38
and cohesive as a project that stands
19:40
beside it. I can't stand in front of
19:43
that. It is what it is.
19:44
>> There there's a dream here, Heather.
19:46
>> I know. Well, that's my husband's
19:47
favorite car, by the way. That's 6.
19:50
I've I've been looking for it. Like
19:51
that's what's so crazy. I've been
19:53
looking for it. That's his favorite car
19:54
ever. He he says the same exact thing. I
19:57
would have thought y'all had the
19:57
conversation about it. But as an artist,
20:00
you mentioned something about Usher.
20:03
It's and you said,
20:04
"I don't know if he always knows how
20:07
great he is."
20:08
And I think all of us, whether we admit
20:10
it or not, deal with self-doubt at
20:12
times, right? Like
20:14
>> True.
20:14
>> How do you know when you're great? You
20:17
know? How how do you know
20:19
maybe this is it. Maybe I I I capped
20:21
out. I tapped out. I can't I can't push
20:24
myself any longer. For the artist that's
20:26
listening now, that and producers, you
20:28
know, that haven't reached that spot,
20:30
maybe in that self-doubt phase, what
20:32
would you say to them right now?
20:35
>> Wow.
20:36
Um
20:37
I think it's also a blessing to only be
20:40
in this place to think those things. Um
20:46
I I don't possess that type of thing
20:48
because I've lost things you can't get
20:50
back ever.
20:51
So I move through life in a different So
20:53
whatever life wants to give me, like
20:55
whatever that thing is, I'm just happy
20:57
about What's
20:58
>> Yeah.
20:59
>> Right.
20:59
>> This what's in front of me today. I'm
21:01
happy about it. So the doubt never
21:03
creeps in on that part. I have something
21:05
to give or to offer to the room. If we
21:07
started a record right now, like, "Oh,
21:08
cool. I got a perspective of a thing to
21:11
give to the room." And alleviates doubt
21:14
because of life experience. But, I feel
21:16
like when this is all you have. So, to
21:18
those people when you when you're
21:19
talking about you just got to stick to
21:21
your guns and what got you here. Like,
21:23
it's not
21:24
everybody had possesses a certain
21:26
particular thing that's great about
21:28
them.
21:28
>> Amen.
21:29
>> And so, we you can't
21:31
compare it. The comparison is where the
21:33
doubt comes from.
21:34
>> Mhm. Yeah.
21:35
>> Like, that's when it first starts. And
21:37
it's like, man, stop comparing yourself
21:39
to somebody else or letting them compare
21:41
themselves to you. Like, you do a thing.
21:44
There's no way I can be Tracy.
21:46
>> Shh.
21:47
>> That's tr- Like, I can't. There's no
21:49
way. On the worst day, best day, medium
21:52
day, like, yo, that's a being that has a
21:54
specific light.
21:56
And that's what we have to That's what
21:58
you got to go through life thinking.
21:59
Like, yo, I have a certain particular
22:01
light. It may be just shining brighter
22:02
on a particular day than it was
22:05
2 days ago.
22:06
But, this is me and can't nobody beat me
22:09
at being me.
22:11
>> I love it. The dream, man. He dropping
22:13
gems, man. That's a hook love hate, too.
22:16
Uh we're talking about that. I noticed
22:18
this cane, man. Is that Is that a part
22:20
of the outfit or what's going on with
22:22
the cane?
22:22
>> Yo, it's becoming a thing, BY THE WAY.
22:25
>> [laughter]
22:26
>> IT'S BECOMING A THING. I SWEAR THERE'S
22:27
NOTHING pimping going on over here.
22:29
>> Okay, I was going to say.
22:30
>> [laughter]
22:30
>> I mean, you be YOU KNOW WHAT
22:32
>> YO, I'M FROM THE TOWN. I'M I recognize a
22:34
cane when I see one.
22:35
>> [laughter]
22:36
>> Cuz the cane got a golden skull on it.
22:39
That's
22:40
>> Let me shout out to my wife who got this
22:41
cane.
22:41
>> Oh, she got it for you? Okay. Okay.
22:44
>> I I was actually a year ago thrifting.
22:47
And I got this cane that has this gold
22:48
lion head thing on it. It was just I was
22:51
like, yo, I like this.
22:52
I don't I'm not probably going to use
22:53
it.
22:54
>> Mhm.
22:54
>> I tore my quad like a 2 months ago.
22:56
>> Okay.
22:57
>> a month and a half.
22:58
>> Uh-huh.
22:59
>> And so, there's a whole situation on on
23:00
this knee over here that's that's
23:02
popping off. But, it did, you know,
23:05
improve my outfit situation. I cannot
23:08
deny. So, now I have an assortment of
23:10
canes.
23:11
>> [laughter]
23:12
>> I don't know what to do with myself. I'm
23:14
literally called Cartier and I was like,
23:16
"Yeah, can you give me that panther like
23:18
right here?"
23:19
I think I want a panther, but I'm still
23:21
hood. I was like, "Yeah, no, we don't
23:22
want solid gold. Y'all not We're not
23:24
going to pay for that."
23:26
I just need you to dip the joint. Yeah,
23:28
just dip it a couple times and then the
23:30
enamel on top so it don't fade and and
23:32
send that to your boy.
23:34
But, yeah, this yeah, my
23:35
>> That's what that is? Okay. I was
23:37
curious, right?
23:38
>> Something else that's new. So, you don't
23:40
know this, but our listeners and the
23:42
team know this. So, I would just
23:43
casually call you Terius Nash as if I
23:46
have you like in my phone.
23:48
>> Right.
23:48
>> And then I saw you should. Thank you.
23:50
Maybe we can make that happen. But, I
23:52
saw that a few years ago
23:54
>> You better take that cane out of his
23:56
hand [laughter] and put it in your hand
23:57
the way she SWIPED AT HIM.
24:01
>> THE PASSING OF THE CANE.
24:02
>> My man passed the [laughter] cane.
24:04
>> That was gangsta.
24:05
>> YOU SHOW RAISING CANE.
24:08
>> [laughter]
24:08
>> YOU HOLD THAT TILL WE DONE.
24:11
>> ALL RIGHT, LET ME GET YOU.
24:11
>> PIMPING ON PIMPING SINCE PIMPING BEEN
24:12
PIMPING.
24:15
>> [laughter]
24:15
>> BUT, I I I AM CURIOUS, ESPECIALLY WHEN
24:17
HEATHER was talking about
24:19
how you allow spiritual guidance to play
24:21
a part in your professional and personal
24:24
life. And when I saw that you had
24:25
changed your name, I wondered if there
24:28
was a sentimental value, like some level
24:31
of symbolism. I haven't seen anyone ask
24:34
you or you like volunteer, but I would
24:36
love to know.
24:37
>> Well, when you break that down into the
24:39
African
24:41
um what it actually means is stolen
24:43
diamonds.
24:44
>> And pronounce your last name.
24:45
>> Just steal DeYampert.
24:47
So, and so the DeYampert part though
24:50
referencing back a couple
24:53
hundreds of years. My one of my aunts
24:55
keeps all of these things. It's like a
24:57
scroll of Jesus over there. He's just
24:59
like, "If you look back here." They're
25:01
like, "Okay, cool." So, here's somebody
25:03
[laughter]
25:04
Here's somebody from the other land.
25:06
>> Mhm.
25:06
>> Um one, two.
25:09
On top of that, what happened was
25:12
for some reason, out of nowhere, it
25:14
started to irk me that that last name
25:17
was on a lot of things and
25:18
accomplishments, and I knew
25:21
from the idea of Sparta, Georgia, or
25:23
even even from the ships we came in on
25:25
in South Carolina that that last name,
25:28
Nash, had came from the people that
25:29
owned us.
25:30
>> Yeah.
25:31
>> And so, I didn't want to see it on
25:34
certain accomplishments and accolades.
25:37
And it doesn't even bother me as much
25:40
now as it did for for some particular
25:42
reason. I just It was just on my mind
25:44
and heart for so long. Like, yo, this is
25:46
really bothersome that you can go
25:48
through life and give this to a name
25:50
that
25:52
you stole.
25:52
>> Owned your people.
25:53
>> Yeah, which means someone else could
25:55
also claim or feel a part of your legacy
25:58
or success.
25:59
>> Bingo.
25:59
>> Wow.
26:00
>> That played a part in it so heavy. The
26:03
land and just going down to um
26:07
a real factual story of one of my my
26:10
great great grands losing their land at
26:12
the after my great great grandfather
26:15
passed.
26:17
He ordered a Cadillac. And the Cadillac
26:19
came in, and because he had passed
26:21
before it got here, they tricked her
26:23
into giving the land up.
26:26
>> Mhm.
26:27
>> To to take the ownership of the car.
26:29
>> Yeah.
26:29
>> Instead of just saying, "Oh, he's not
26:31
here." Okay, cool. Y'all just got to
26:32
sell that to somebody else. And she
26:33
didn't know any better.
26:34
>> Mhm.
26:35
>> 76 acres.
26:37
>> Ah.
26:38
>> Ooh.
26:39
>> Yeah.
26:40
>> Yeah.
26:40
>> Yeah. So, so it also always Yeah. Makes
26:43
me feel a certain type of way if You
26:45
know, when we're talking about these
26:47
black millionaires. It's like, no, man,
26:50
we still ain't back.
26:51
>> Mhm.
26:52
>> It's like take that over there.
26:54
>> Mhm. [laughter]
26:55
>> Find somebody else with that. We already
26:57
missing stuff. Like we just It's hard
27:00
enough to get it, maintain it, and then
27:02
get it back knowing especially in all of
27:04
our lives and our um trajectory of our
27:07
ancestors, this thing has happened
27:09
>> Mhm.
27:09
>> so many times.
27:10
>> Mhm.
27:11
>> And so that's why I'm always so happy
27:13
for anybody that get it. I don't care
27:14
how many Hey, you got a trillion.
27:18
Let's go black guy because I know how
27:20
hard it
27:21
>> Right.
27:21
>> We we should have We should have been
27:22
had it.
27:23
>> Mhm.
27:24
>> You know, on the backs of backs.
27:27
You know, so I don't want to get all
27:30
>> No, you already did, man.
27:32
>> [laughter]
27:34
>> I I love it, man. And I And I love where
27:36
you are in life. And And you've always
27:39
been this way. And I watch you and I see
27:42
your accolades and I And I see the
27:43
challenges and adversities you face, you
27:46
know. I see the legal challenges and
27:48
adversities you face.
27:49
>> They come.
27:50
>> It's no It's no It's no way
27:52
I figured it out. There's no way around
27:55
it. It's no And back to my point of my
27:57
kids, we said it off air. And I was like
28:00
they aren't built for that type of a
28:02
thing.
28:02
>> Yeah.
28:03
>> And it would break my heart
28:06
to watch
28:07
um any part of this life take advantage
28:10
of my child
28:11
>> Mhm.
28:12
>> in a certain when I know what they're
28:13
built with and I know um
28:16
what they possess in here. It would
28:18
break break my heart. For me
28:20
I'm like from a certain different type
28:23
of a time, I guess. And like I said,
28:25
I've lost a certain thing in life, so I
28:27
have a different perspective on what are
28:28
you really losing?
28:29
>> Yeah.
28:30
>> And even understanding opposition when
28:33
do your worst you can possibly do. It's
28:35
not going to change this particular
28:37
thing. It's going to let me know it what
28:39
I knew already. This is where the world
28:41
is. And
28:43
we almost in a way depend on certain
28:45
people to go out and do a certain thing
28:47
good
28:49
to make up for somebody that's going to
28:50
do something bad.
28:51
>> Mhm.
28:52
>> You know, like it that's just how the
28:53
world is. That's how it's going to
28:55
balance itself. There's no way around
28:56
it. And it's unfortunate
28:59
because like I said, I didn't get in
29:00
music for it. That I love
29:03
This is why I'm here.
29:03
>> Mhm.
29:04
>> And then you just realize everybody
29:05
doesn't love it like you. You're like,
29:07
oh, you're here for a whole another
29:09
reason.
29:09
>> Mhm.
29:10
>> Like that's what we doing? And so
29:13
you know, but it's um
29:14
>> What do you lean on though when you when
29:16
you being accused of things then and you
29:19
have a
29:20
>> It's nothing to I don't I don't think
29:22
it's I have no idea where this type of
29:25
uh
29:26
compartmentalization
29:28
comes from and that's just me being
29:30
super honest and that's why I keep going
29:32
back to
29:34
when I lost
29:36
my mom, it just changed how I see life.
29:41
>> Yeah. Yeah.
29:41
>> Yeah.
29:42
>> Yeah.
29:43
>> These things that are temporary,
29:44
whatever it is. I don't you know, if
29:46
it's if it's
29:48
if it's people that I love and people
29:50
love me like that's what I and I do
29:52
care, you know, what people think about
29:55
me. I worked too hard to get to a
29:57
certain certain spot.
29:58
But it doesn't change where I have to go
30:00
anyway.
30:01
>> Mhm.
30:01
>> It's not going to change the job that I
30:03
have left over.
30:05
And also it doesn't change my protection
30:07
for the people that are around me and
30:09
knowing why I'm doing a particular
30:11
thing. How you even react in the face of
30:14
adversity. Like you know, like it's
30:16
usually it's
30:18
So if being nasty, be nasty back and I
30:19
just don't have that bone for it. I'm
30:21
like, I can't I can't do it. Like it's
30:23
not I I will not use my power for that.
30:26
I won't use my platform to like, oh
30:28
cool, well, this is what
30:30
>> Yeah.
30:31
>> Regardless of what I know like, oh yeah,
30:32
well, I could be.
30:34
>> Mhm.
30:34
>> You know.
30:35
If it's a song, it's a song, you know,
30:37
maybe somebody else could you know, sing
30:39
a couple things, but for me personally,
30:43
I just don't have that bone in my body.
30:47
Mhm. And I'm happy I don't cuz I never
30:48
wanted that I come from a
30:50
I come from a group of moonshine runners
30:53
and trust me, my fam on a certain
30:55
outskirts don't play them type of games.
30:58
>> Yeah.
30:58
>> [laughter]
30:58
>> Moonshine, what you from the McCoys?
31:02
You related to the Harfields?
31:04
>> Let me tell you something. [laughter]
31:05
Them boys from Hawkinsville, Georgia,
31:07
they don't play certain type of games
31:09
with legacies. They don't play those
31:10
type of games. You have to be like,
31:11
"Heel."
31:12
>> Yeah. [laughter]
31:13
>> No.
31:14
>> Damn.
31:14
>> Hey cuz, you hey, hey.
31:17
>> They they trying to run up. I get that,
31:19
man. Look, the dream is here. Every time
31:21
we talk is a amazing conversation. I'll
31:24
be remiss cuz I know you and Jay have
31:26
always had this special relationship.
31:28
You know [laughter]
31:30
I'm assuming you that's your guy and
31:32
mentor. What did you see the freestyle
31:34
at the Roots Picnic?
31:35
>> I did see it.
31:36
>> What were your thoughts?
31:37
>> Well, you know, I saw it.
31:38
>> Yes.
31:40
>> He was coming.
31:42
I mean
31:43
you know, how many shots he's taking a
31:45
man?
31:46
>> Yeah.
31:46
>> I mean how like
31:48
everybody's like, "Yo, you know, Jay
31:50
shouldn't and it was like
31:52
we're
31:53
we're always you know, that's I'm going
31:55
to speak for me. It's always that way.
31:57
You like, "Don't let it let it go." I
32:00
said people go to shows and be like,
32:02
"Yeah, Dream and
32:04
I was like, "Don't say nothing, Dream.
32:05
Just
32:06
grace. Just grace.
32:08
>> [laughter]
32:08
>> Just grace.
32:10
Grace, you know?
32:12
Um
32:13
many of times where things happen like
32:15
that to me where you feel like things
32:18
are incoming and BIA call that morning
32:20
and say, "Dream,
32:21
I appreciate you for handling that that
32:23
way." And I'm [laughter] like,
32:25
"God must knew I needed an angel to call
32:26
me because the negro inside
32:29
>> Not the negro.
32:30
>> He in there
32:31
>> The ancestors are
32:32
>> bootlegger. You know he comes from the
32:33
bootlegger.
32:35
Look, let's not get it twisted. I'm from
32:37
the bootlegger. I'm the west side of
32:38
Atlanta. Let's not get it twisted. I'm
32:39
from the west side of Atlanta. I'm from
32:41
Bankhead. Like, it's not
32:43
Me and me and Tip grew up in the same
32:44
block. Like, it's the same it's the same
32:47
anatomy of a situation. I'm just able to
32:51
Who's hotter than this?
32:52
Mhm, just let it go. And then sometimes
32:55
I feel like anybody could be just pushed
32:57
and tagged and just take little bites
32:59
cuz they know you can't really the the
33:01
the hardest thing to do
33:04
which kind of goes back to the other
33:05
thing is when you're a husband and a
33:08
father
33:09
>> Yeah.
33:09
>> in a way it weakens you.
33:12
Because you know people are watching you
33:13
and not the people you really care
33:15
about. Them saying it's the people you
33:17
love who are like Let's see how dad's
33:19
going to respond to this.
33:20
>> Right.
33:22
>> I want to see like what is he Is he
33:24
going to get nasty? Is he going to get
33:25
in the mud with it? Like, what is he
33:26
going to
33:27
What's going to happen?
33:29
And that type of love weakens you
33:32
in a way cuz you know you must show
33:34
restraint.
33:35
Cuz it's not time to jump out the window
33:37
where if you was by yourself, you're
33:38
like
33:39
>> Yeah.
33:40
>> Where you at? You say you where?
33:42
>> Mhm.
33:43
>> Oh, we just pulled up at the Cool, see
33:44
you in a minute. Be over there.
33:46
>> Mhm.
33:47
>> Your family and everything changes that
33:50
thing.
33:51
It's the greatest and worst
33:54
place to be in as a man to say.
33:56
>> Yeah.
33:57
>> What? 19-year-old dream is like in the
34:00
I'm in the Impala already like
34:02
>> [laughter]
34:03
>> Cuz you know you got to be an example
34:04
for some little ones.
34:05
>> You know and they're watching and you're
34:07
like man, you're like man, so I got to
34:10
take all these little
34:12
stabs, hits.
34:13
You saying something smart and I heard
34:14
what you said and I'm the pick up the
34:16
phone guy. Like, hey.
34:18
We got to
34:20
Oh, this is industry stuff.
34:21
And industry stuff to me
34:24
has I had to figure out that we're like
34:26
in a um high school musical.
34:28
>> Yeah.
34:29
>> Cuz I was grown when I got here which
34:31
means I had jobs for real. Like, I
34:32
didn't play those type of game when I
34:34
got in and people was doing their little
34:35
things. I was like
34:38
Oh, y'all not for real. I thought y'all
34:40
was for real. Like I thought [laughter]
34:41
it was like
34:43
oh, I got it.
34:45
Now I got it now and I had to move in a
34:47
different type of way cuz those same
34:49
people will get you up out of here.
34:51
You know, they form it's a group of that
34:54
non-serious, non-realness. That group is
34:57
way bigger than the group of like oh,
34:59
these real [ __ ] over here. Like it's
35:01
like four versus 5,000. And you're like,
35:04
yo, all right, let me keep my real over
35:06
here on the unless you test it to a
35:08
point where it's like, oh, what now?
35:10
>> And you feel that's what happened with
35:11
Jay?
35:12
>> Yeah.
35:13
>> He came on and he got tested to that
35:14
point.
35:15
>> Yeah, because I don't think you had that
35:16
same type of kids and [ __ ] You can't do
35:18
that. You can't do that.
35:19
Like that was our
35:23
Sorry. Just
35:25
I don't know if I'll be back sway.
35:27
If you ever
35:28
>> [laughter]
35:28
>> I'm just letting you know. It's like
35:30
Yo, I know he's singing R&B and
35:32
everything, but so-and-so said said or
35:35
even attempted that it's going to be
35:37
that because saying something in the
35:38
dark is one thing. When you know
35:40
somebody is a public figure, meaning
35:42
your child has to wear that.
35:46
So it's actually literally like you just
35:48
smack
35:49
you smack my kid in the side
35:52
I'll do whatever my mother would do. And
35:54
I've seen my mother before she passed
35:56
pull up at the school like, I'm sorry,
35:58
what's going on?
35:59
And that's the reaction you have to your
36:01
family and your loved ones and your kids
36:03
to say, hey man, don't play with me like
36:04
that. That's too There's a certain thing
36:07
where you're like cool, man. Like Yeah.
36:09
My rap sucks.
36:11
>> Yeah.
36:11
>> Yeah. I suck. And as soon as you say my
36:14
kid, what?
36:15
>> Even the mafia had had limits. They Even
36:17
THE MAFIA LEFT
36:20
>> [laughter]
36:21
>> NO KIDS IS NO WAY, BUT YEAH, MAN.
36:24
>> OH, MAN. This is great.
36:26
>> [laughter]
36:26
>> I know.
36:27
>> The dream, man.
36:29
>> not be back Sway.
36:31
Yeah, that's it for Dream. Yeah,
36:32
wonderful career. Somebody
36:34
>> It was ALL A DREAM.
36:36
ALL A DREAM.
36:36
>> HE'S [laughter] DONE NOW.
36:38
>> KEEP THE GRACE, MAN. Keep the grace,
36:39
man.
36:40
Keep the grace, brother. We need
36:42
We need you here, man.
36:43
>> New album, Grace Usai.
36:45
>> [laughter]
36:46
>> Keep the grace.
36:47
>> I thought about changing my last name,
36:49
too.
36:49
>> You did? Oh.
36:50
>> Yeah, yeah. I thought of Well, I thought
36:51
about that whole concept of last names
36:54
for black people in America not owning,
36:56
you know, that that's a that's a symbol
36:59
of proprietorship, you know, and legacy
37:02
that belongs to somebody else.
37:03
>> Right.
37:04
>> Right. And that was my thought process.
37:07
And my my sister and I, we talked about
37:09
that as well. Yeah, I even had the last
37:11
name I was going to change it, too.
37:12
>> Oh, really?
37:14
What was it?
37:15
>> Oh, you care to share?
37:15
>> Well, my grandfather's last name is
37:17
Waters.
37:18
>> Mhm.
37:19
>> Um and I'm not sure exactly where that
37:22
came from, but I know what water is.
37:27
Water.
37:28
>> Okay.
37:29
>> Like water.
37:30
>> Mhm.
37:31
>> Actually, clear, pure.
37:32
>> Actually, that would be good.
37:33
>> Yeah.
37:33
>> That's actually good.
37:34
>> Sway water.
37:36
>> That's actually good. Yeah.
37:37
>> Right.
37:38
>> Sway water, that's kind of like
37:39
>> In fact, I was just going to say bottle
37:41
it.
37:42
>> [laughter]
37:42
>> I'm over here like being A CAPITALIST.
37:44
>> SWATER.
37:47
>> CALL IT SWATER.
37:48
>> SWATER.
37:49
>> BUT that mean like you might have
37:50
knocked [laughter] a fly out the air,
37:52
you know, that's different.
37:54
>> I'm calling J Brown right now. Hey, so
37:55
Sway water, DOES
37:58
>> J [laughter] BROWN WOULD HAVE BEEN on
37:59
it. He'd have trademarked it and then,
38:01
you know, J J Brown would have sold it
38:03
back [laughter] to him.
38:07
>> He wouldn't do that.
38:08
>> Yeah. He would?
38:09
>> No.
38:09
>> Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
38:11
>> Real quick, since you're bringing up
38:13
people that you will call, have you have
38:14
you and Ne-Yo ever like poured a drink
38:17
and just said, "Bro,
38:19
we are so out of control talented?"
38:23
>> We haven't poured a drink, but I just
38:25
talked to Ne-Yo about I think he's
38:26
having a golf
38:27
tournament in Atlanta. He was like, "Yo,
38:29
man, you need to come to this golf." And
38:30
it just so happens that it didn't
38:33
um do what it needed to do, but that's
38:34
something that we should do because we
38:36
actually have a couple songs that we've
38:37
done
38:38
um that just never seen light of day.
38:41
>> Oh, wow.
38:42
>> Oh, let us do that.
38:43
>> Yeah, no, our ears need that.
38:45
>> Yeah, we have a have a couple of
38:47
records. Yeah, I love Ne-Yo.
38:49
>> Yeah.
38:50
>> Yeah. Yeah, just all just
38:53
you know, some people just come with a
38:54
certain type of grace.
38:55
>> Mhm.
38:56
>> And some you're like
39:00
Yep.
39:01
>> Yeah.
39:01
>> So, I will with Yeah, I I have a drink
39:04
with him anytime. Like this Yeah.
39:06
>> That actually needs to happen though.
39:07
>> Yes, y'all have a lot to marvel at.
39:09
>> Yeah.
39:09
>> Mhm.
39:10
>> Yeah, I think it's cuz we not done
39:11
though. We just You know, you got to
39:12
keep a little
39:14
mystery right in the center.
39:16
>> Okay, I like that. Jay, did you and you
39:18
and Jay got any new music that y'all
39:20
working on?
39:21
>> Wow, GET ME FIRED. [laughter]
39:23
>> HEY!
39:24
>> IT'S THE WEIGHT WATER.
39:27
>> WEIGHT IN IT.
39:28
>> HE'S JUST MOVING THROUGH THAT thing like
39:29
>> Talking about you and Ne-Yo got
39:31
something.
39:31
>> Pass the cane over this way, uh Tracy.
39:33
Cane pass.
39:35
>> [laughter]
39:35
>> That pimp [ __ ] Oakland bound to come
39:37
out, brother. Hey, my brother, when two
39:39
people who walk in the light get
39:40
together, they need to stay bright. I'm
39:42
sure you my brother Jay and I came
39:44
together. I know y'all got some music,
39:46
right?
39:46
>> Ooh, man.
39:47
>> Tell me time ain't wasting.
39:49
>> Yeah.
39:49
>> Um Jay has some beautiful um records.
39:53
And yeah, we we have things that we've
39:55
definitely I don't think anybody would
39:56
think that we we haven't.
39:58
>> Yeah.
39:58
>> And don't have. Like it's too much
40:01
um music going on all the time when
40:04
we're all together. Like
40:06
And by the way
40:09
to even think um
40:13
it just goes to show you perspective in
40:15
what people think somebody's doing
40:16
>> Mhm.
40:17
>> versus
40:18
man we doing the same thing you was
40:20
doing it was fun writing those records
40:21
that night doing a particular thing and
40:23
just regular schmegular
40:27
[ __ ]
40:28
>> Yeah.
40:28
>> And
40:29
so yeah we got
40:31
we got some records. Now when do you see
40:33
those records is
40:34
>> That's well you know yeah that's that's
40:36
a rhetorical question right there.
40:38
>> I did have an idea last night though
40:39
there was a record that I that that that
40:42
we got you know it's like there's
40:44
somebody doing the soundtrack to a
40:45
particular thing. Dang I can't even talk
40:48
about it's terrible.
40:48
>> Yeah somebody's coming up now from the
40:50
sixth floor you know Roc Nation is
40:55
>> You know what if this is 20 like 12
40:57
probably. No I'm good.
41:00
>> [laughter]
41:01
>> THERE'S NO NDAS WHEN YOU'RE WORKING WITH
41:02
high profile folks.
41:04
>> I'm good I'm good now I've I've served
41:05
past a certain space.
41:07
Yeah it's different now yeah I get the
41:09
answers but
41:10
>> Well when y'all do that listening party
41:12
I want to come to this one.
41:13
>> Yeah yeah you you better
41:15
>> Okay all right.
41:21
My brother man I want to say we're here
41:25
now we're in LA.
41:26
>> I see y'all.
41:27
>> Come on through man come hang out with
41:28
your family and let's have these
41:30
Thank you I appreciate it man cuz I I
41:33
love these high vibration conversations
41:35
we're able to have and keep it raw and
41:37
real at the same time but
41:39
you're an extremely talented person you
41:41
know.
41:42
>> Thank you.
41:43
>> on multiple levels
41:44
>> Thank you.
41:44
>> not just from what's the byproduct of
41:46
what come out of that studio
41:48
>> Yeah.
41:48
>> right but it's everything you're
41:50
projecting right now and you're being on
41:51
purpose and I see it and it's a practice
41:55
it's a discipline right to continue that
41:57
way and that's why you've been here for
41:59
so long so congratulations to you man.
42:02
Love to you man give it up for the dream
42:04
y'all.
42:05
>> [screaming]
42:06
>> Love Hate 2
42:07
make sure y'all get that.
42:09
All right. Wait wait hold up man.
42:12
>> [cheering]
42:12
>> When is Love & Hate 2?
42:14
>> Uh-huh.
42:15
>> Yeah, when is
42:15
>> There we go. We going to sneak that
42:17
thing out on y'all.
42:18
>> Uh-huh. Okay, we're going to do it that
42:19
way?
42:19
>> We going to sneak it out.
42:20
>> Okay.
42:21
>> But let's just say imminent.
42:23
>> Okay.
42:23
>> We Yeah, we working on a different type
42:25
of
42:26
strategy right here.
42:28
Imminent.
42:30
Imminent domain.
42:31
>> Okay.
42:32
>> They going to put me to work. Let's just
42:33
put it that way. They're like, yeah,
42:34
we're going to try to make sure that we
42:36
announce this tour and everything at the
42:37
same
42:38
>> All right. Well, we're here
42:40
>> Helden now want to come to the tour.
42:41
Tracy, too.
42:42
>> Oh, I going to see Helden. I going to
42:44
see Tracy almost every day
42:46
every day. [laughter] Even on the off
42:48
days.
42:48
>> Even on the off days.
42:50
>> How was that show like? I think you
42:51
could just, you know, sway just a little
42:53
bit. You know. But not every day. I'm
42:55
just telling him in advance that he
42:57
doesn't have over expectations. Yeah,
42:59
no, I'm not every day.
43:00
>> Okay. I understand.
43:01
>> a cane. It's different. It's somewhere
43:03
else. I got to be allegiance to my pimp.
43:05
>> Come on, man. You ain't talking about
43:07
cocaine. [laughter]
43:08
You ain't talking about the
43:08
>> I said cane.
43:09
>> Oh, okay.
43:10
>> Don't worry about what kind of cane.
43:11
Sway water. You got water, I GOT CANE.
43:15
LET'S COOK.
43:16
>> [laughter]
43:17
>> OH, Y'ALL GOT A WHOLE 'NOTHER enterprise
43:18
going ON UP HERE.
43:20
J MIKE J MIKE COME DOWN HERE NOW.
43:22
>> [laughter]
43:25
>> Y'ALL COOKING.
43:26
>> COME UPSTAIRS, HOMIE.
43:27
>> YEAH, YEAH, Y'ALL COOKING.
43:28
>> You know, no, you never looked up to
43:30
anyone. They all looked up to you, but
43:32
we on the eighth, you on the sixth. Come
43:33
on up.
43:35
>> [laughter]
43:35
>> Swaying here dropping bars.
43:38
>> Dream, love you, brother. Thank you,
43:40
man. Support this, man. Support his
43:42
music. Tampa is the single.
43:44
Bring that body.
43:46
Man, get this man Get this man a round
43:49
of applause.
43:52
>> Love, man.
43:52
>> And that concludes our show. We want to
43:54
thank Cynthia Cooper, the greatest WNBA
43:57
player to ever play, for coming by. Make
43:59
sure you check out Tuesday.
44:00
>> Yes, June 30th for the Liberty and the
44:03
Aces to go at it. We'll see what
44:05
happens.
44:05
>> All right, Dream. You want to say
44:06
anything closing, brother?
44:08
>> Man, all I want to say is, man, make
44:10
sure y'all get Love Hate 2.
44:11
>> Yes.
44:11
>> Um
44:12
You don't have to get that first week. I
44:14
understand. We all got children and got
44:15
stuff to do.
44:16
>> Yeah.
44:17
>> Just just at some particular point,
44:18
though. Just go and get it. And the last
44:21
thing I want to say is this album I did
44:23
with 2 Chainz is crazy. You don't nobody
44:25
know about this finna drop.
44:26
>> Oh.
44:26
>> Woah. What? You got an album with
44:28
[laughter] 2 Chainz?
44:29
Hold on, man. Where did you go?
44:31
>> The cane.
44:32
>> He can't get too far with that cane. Sit
44:33
down.
44:33
>> You and you and Chainz got an album
44:35
coming out?
44:36
>> Oh gosh.
44:37
>> You did the whole album or is it
44:39
>> Yeah, it's already done. It's
44:40
>> Woah.
44:41
>> You did all of You did the whole album?
44:42
>> Ooh.
44:44
Damn. [sighs]
44:44
I did it like 3 days.
44:46
>> 3 days? You'll be working real quick.
44:48
>> That Virgo energy is different.
44:49
>> That Virgo energy is different.
44:51
>> know if it's going to come out before
44:52
the year is up?
44:53
>> Yep.
44:55
>> [laughter]
44:55
>> How did it happen, though? How did it
44:57
happen? Cuz I like when Chainz hook up
44:58
with one producer like Static Selektah
45:01
and different people he's worked with.
45:03
How did that happen?
45:05
>> He came over to play his album that he's
45:07
getting ready to put out, which is
45:08
phenomenal. And there's a record that I
45:10
have that's on that particular album,
45:11
and he had the idea to ask me while I
45:14
was in the room at Trick Daddy, we were
45:16
all there. He's like,
45:18
"Y'all want to work on something?"
45:20
You can't ask people that love music
45:21
they want to work on something.
45:23
>> [laughter]
45:24
>> We're like, "What?" We did three records
45:25
immediately.
45:26
>> Mhm.
45:27
>> Just like that.
45:28
>> And he wrote them like that?
45:29
>> Yes.
45:30
He found out something about me, and I
45:31
found out something about him. He's
45:32
like, "Oh.
45:34
Oh, you
45:35
>> Mhm.
45:35
>> Oh, you crazy.
45:36
>> Mhm.
45:37
>> Let's see if you can do it again
45:38
tomorrow." And then we did it again the
45:40
next day.
45:41
>> 2 Chainz
45:41
>> Shout out to Metro, too, who
45:43
>> Metro Boomin?
45:43
>> Yeah. Metro Metro did some dope records
45:45
on that thing, too.
45:46
>> Yeah, man. That kid is dope, man. He's
45:49
really dope.
45:49
>> little Virgo friend.
45:50
>> 2 Chainz, um
45:52
I always used to tell him it was a point
45:54
when he really started stepping out on
45:56
his own.
45:57
People was just taking just chipping off
46:00
his style, chipping off his nuance.
46:02
>> Hey. Yes. Yes, sir. they just I was I
46:04
used to say, man, they got you, man.
46:06
They jacked They They chumping.
46:07
>> They getting you?
46:08
>> They munching, but you know what? Some
46:10
of those people no longer here, and he
46:12
still is.
46:13
>> He's so And he's so good.
46:14
>> solid
46:15
>> Right?
46:15
>> He's so good.
46:16
>> Mhm.
46:17
>> Man, great wonderful writing.
46:20
>> It's
46:20
>> Like just
46:21
>> Yeah, great book.
46:22
>> Yeah.
46:23
>> Yeah, man. Dream, man. Include Include
46:26
us in two chains and and the dream. They
46:28
got an album coming out and it's called
46:30
>> Virgo [ __ ]
46:31
>> Virgo [ __ ]
46:33
>> Exclusive sweater weather. Featuring
46:35
Beyoncé. Ain't she a Virgo, too?
46:36
>> She a Virgo.
46:37
>> Yeah, she's something else.
46:38
Virgo's girl.
46:40
>> [laughter]
46:41
>> Ain't Nas a Virgo?
46:43
Yep.
46:43
>> Escobar season has returned.
46:44
>> He got a new album?
46:45
>> So I just wanted to make sure.
46:46
>> Okay. Oh, you know what? Yeah, now he
46:48
is.
46:49
>> [laughter]
46:51
>> OKAY, I FEEL LIKE DOUGGY FRESH. Is
46:54
Douggy a Virgo?
46:55
>> I'm not sure.
46:56
>> Okay, Virgo [ __ ]
46:58
I'm trying to I'm trying to make the
46:59
second album. Yeah, I'm trying to go
47:00
ahead and get it. Dream, love you,
47:02
brother. Thanks for coming through. [ __ ]
47:03
is
47:03
>> Yes, sir.
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