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Lord Rab Talks Bay Area Hip-Hop, MC Hammer, Philthy Rich and NoVultures Podcast | SWAY’S UNIVERSE
Jan 12, 2023
Lord Rab from the #1 Oakland based podcast, NoVultures dropped major knowledge about Bay Area rap. He discusses the importance of Bay history especially MC Hammer also spoke on Philthy Rich.
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I feel like what Ben Affleck did for
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Boston I feel like what Spike Lee did
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for New York and what all them dudes did
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for LA and Chicago like we gotta do for
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today yes yeah man that's the work
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that's the voice of Berner
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who owns the most successful cannabis
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brand of Our Generation
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cookies
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and Berner is from
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the Bay Area
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first time I met him was in Clear Lake
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California fishing yep really yeah I
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just threw that out there are you
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serious every summer I would take the
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family me and the family but go get a
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house out there and celebrate sit on the
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lake you know and act a fool and have a
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really good time and one of the casinos
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out there I was you know rip you know
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ripping their necks off at the poker
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table and um Berner came up to me and
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said hey man oh [ __ ] sway yeah yeah man
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what's up man I'm a burner man I didn't
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know who he was at that time I said man
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good to meet you he's like I'm from the
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bay man and man I rap I was like all
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right okay can I give you some music so
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he ran to his car gave me about three or
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four CDs of his music and I said well I
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said man are you good he was like man I
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like you know I've been doing it for a
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while man I like what I'm doing you know
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blase blah any you know I didn't even
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know about the cookies brand at that
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time I knew him as an artist
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but he had the cookies brand at that
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time and I thought it was really
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interesting when I would see him and go
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man I didn't even how he presented
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himself that was wise that clip on
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citizens if you want to learn more about
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Bay Area in his history in his Artistry
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and some of the just legendary moments
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that are very seldom told when you could
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think of my story in King Tech story
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y'all don't know it the world don't know
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it you know what I mean because people
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don't talk about it and and when we see
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our peers talking about history and
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moments in in in in this culture that
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took place they tend to skip over Bay
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Area for some reason no it's a reason
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what's the reason so um here's what I've
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learned and and I've learned it and I
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don't think anymore it's an accident so
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we've been doing this show 11 years now
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right and most recently we've been
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blessed to sit down with um Mount
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Westmore uh for a special behind the
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scenes look and conversation and short
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was there Q was there E40 was there
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and what just having her here today what
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I'm constantly hearing is that people
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take a lot from the Bay Area like a lot
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a lot
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and they hardly ever acknowledge it and
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I think when you take from people
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and you don't acknowledge it
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that's a crime in itself yep y'all know
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who I'm talking about
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but
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they they get embarrassed later on
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because you constantly hear people say
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that started in the bay the only person
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I've ever heard give full acknowledgment
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to the Bay Area is Master P
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you know what I mean yeah
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he's the only person rap that came up
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here actually said I learned from the
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Bay Area and Snoop said I learned from
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Master P who learned from the Bay Area
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everybody else be taken and not wanting
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to give acknowledgment and Master P will
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tell you that it's pivotal person in the
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Bay Area that he learned a lot from was
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EA ski okay I can't speak to that person
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I love what you did I'm mad I can't take
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credit for that part I heard what he
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said to me yeah because he used to live
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off of Fleming okay you know over there
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on 55th and P used to wait at his house
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till he came home you know on this on
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the stairs you know he know his whole
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family family salute to pee it does get
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um it used to frustrate me because I got
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a lot of peers in um journalism hip-hop
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journalism broadcast journalism that I
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see speaking on history and even the
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history of our what we do and they
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purposely
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won't mention swaying Tech in their
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stories
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when our story
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um helped to illuminate so much in the
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culture and elevate it to a level that
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it wasn't that that they were inspired
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by and so when I see it it used to
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frustrate me
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um now it doesn't weigh on me at all you
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know in fact I feel I almost feel
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sympathetic towards them you know
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because I celebrate everybody I don't
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care who you are like if you come
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through this game I'm gonna put a
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spotlight on you even if I don't like
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you that's you you see me dude
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we've had people on the show that I'm
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not that aligned with because of that
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but they deserved their story to be told
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and I think that's what's important
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y'all stop telling to have truths so you
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could get some type of metrics or some
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viral moment to make yourself feel good
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and give credit to people right like
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give credit because credit it can't just
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be about you it can't be about you so
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salute to Rod Markman get Rob Markman a
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round of applause I talk back
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give Dayton Thomas around here
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I could say for a fact and I say these
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names
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because there's somebody from the Bay
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who is walking in the tradition of
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Excellence when it comes to this
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journalism uh because he cares I know it
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his conversation it gets annoying at
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times because he wants to get to the
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minute detail of what happened in
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history remember that one line so and so
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said in this song he's been like this
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for decades that we've hung out and I
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remember saying to him
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do everything you want to be done
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yourself
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do it yourself don't rely on anybody
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don't count on anybody
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do it yourself you know because and I'ma
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be there to support all along all the
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way through but once I can see that a
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person is taking initiative to grab what
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it is that they want that makes me more
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inspired to support what it is that
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they're trying to do that's right he
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started off as an emcee he was rhyming
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and rapping you know and him and my
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cousin Cleve was getting was a half a
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Grammy
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um label imprint off the ground what up
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cousin clay and
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um but he has something bigger and more
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he has something to say but he needed
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another platform to say it on and
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sometimes you can't say it all in a song
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and he created this platform called No
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vultures out of Northern California and
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you see everybody in Northern California
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specifically the Bay Area that have been
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coming down or supported because he
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knows their truth he's invested in their
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story for the broader picture of what's
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been done in the Bay Area Mr Fab
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uh sibo
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um numbskull
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um they all come down to speak with this
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man because of his pedigree yes yes and
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so this is uh we'll all be all
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transparents this family this is my
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cousin love it okay and I watch and I'm
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hard I'm a little hard on them probably
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he can handle it all right welcome him
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to welcome him to this welcome him to
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the show The One and Only Lord
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let's go let's go
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rap yo how long has no vultures been in
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existence
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[Applause]
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man like almost four years now four
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years
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what what was the moment you decided
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and why did you decide I just got to
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create my own platform
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um honestly partly because of what you
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told me what did I say to you I asked
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you about it so I I asked you I'm like
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man you know this rapping is cool but
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you know the game is a little fickle for
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me and I'm you know I'm on a more side
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of like too cool to be a rapper you know
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what I'm saying like and so
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you said to me one day I said man I'm
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thinking about doing a podcast and I was
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like what you think you said do it that
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that was that was it you said you you
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got a camera right I've been seeing you
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do camera work I know what your pedigree
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is on this hip-hop so why you ain't
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doing it
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and that that stuck with me more than
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anything anybody ever told me why you
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ain't doing it because I didn't have an
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excuse and what's the first thing you
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did after that
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how did you build it
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the first thing I do did was jump on
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YouTube
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I'm a um I'm YouTube University alumni
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so everything on that platform as far as
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tutorials everything that I did was off
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a tutorial so from learning how to hook
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up a mic to control a sound board to
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even the conducting the interviews I
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kind of had because of my studying you
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know watching you and others and just my
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love for the game but man the uh first
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thing I did was got on YouTube and
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bought equipment and from there I fired
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it up and what was your first episode
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what made you choose it as your first
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episode and how did it go so of course I
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do a guest based so I you know podcasts
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are cool but like if I was ranting it'd
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be crazy I probably would be the most
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viral but you know but I wanted to tell
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people stories so I chose Quran streets
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he's a guy from Berkeley and uh he's
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actually uh I don't you guys remember
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the group to pack that too short had got
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my Vans on
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that's the biggest that everybody's
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gonna know a little bit and so these
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were his folks but he was also in the
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movie
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as a rapper that's not what made me
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interview him he's an actor and so they
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did a movie um
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called licks yep super dope movie and
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that was the only movie that I saw tell
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a real Oakland story without it being
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kind of corny got it and so he and his
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story was so deep because he's like he's
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burnt so he he got burned when he was
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young he had he had dreads and the
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um locks in the and the doctor told his
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mom the only way to get rid of these
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lice is to burn it
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and so and shout out to his mom his uh
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mom is called Word Slinger she's a poet
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from Oakland very very deep uh but she
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put the kerosene kerosene in his hair
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and uh when she she didn't know she had
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the stove on or something like that and
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when she lit the to like the lights I
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mean the kerosene out his hair it just
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was an explosion and so he was just
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burned he said as he was walking out the
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house his skin was melting
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and so just his his confidence when I
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see him like he running down on any lady
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like he you know this is a guy that's
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been burned so he doesn't he doesn't let
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that get him I just thought he was very
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interested and he said that's me and
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he's a hell of an actor he actually did
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all of August Wilson's uh screenplays in
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chronological order he's the only person
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in history that ever did that wow so wow
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I remember meeting him here
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yeah when the um we we he came up
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right here yeah yeah we interviewed him
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on the show
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um and that was your first episode that
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was the first one
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see I think I think you shouldn't be
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ranting I like the fact that you're not
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ranting and to me I think that some of
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the most successful podcasts or shows or
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whatever people call them and the ones
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that's going to have longevity are the
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ones that the hosts are actually
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passionate about what they're talking
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about and I think that always gives you
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a a bonus and a foundation like you're
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passionate about the Bay Area you're
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passionate about these stories and I
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think the authenticity shows in that you
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know and that's what I would tell people
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yeah okay so you learned a lot on
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YouTube but you can't learn passion on
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YouTube no you can't so you started with
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the passion of it and I think that you
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you develop into other stuff the
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technical stuff yeah you learn that but
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to me it started with your passion so
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congratulations for following your
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passion and being and wanting to enhance
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it more you know what I mean I think
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that's dope rap and I can sense that
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your passion is also what led to this
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title like I want to unpack that with no
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vultures because obviously it makes us
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think of culture vultures absolutely
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yeah those who are culture appropriators
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those who you know do not have pure
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intentions when it comes to this game
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um how long did it take you was that the
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first name that came to mind that is the
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first name that came to mind amen and I
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I was thinking of names but nothing was
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coming up like it was I literally was
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drawing a blank like because I'm really
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particular about that like in the Bay
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Area we've got a term called booty
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nobody wants to be Boosie like if Boosie
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is like a clown but it's just so much
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deeper than that you know what I mean
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it's just like corny a sidebusters yeah
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somebody that's stunting all the time
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for no reason it's just Boosie so we
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caught so I didn't want to be Bootsy so
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I was like I can't just name my show
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anything and so Dame Dash popped in my
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head and here's one of his rants when he
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talked about culture vultures and I
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think
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because of his business with Jay-Z and
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people like that and their disagreements
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are you know separation people tend to
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not take people serious if the more
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popular person is not rocking with them
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no more but I can take something from
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anybody and so when he talks about these
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culture vultures he's basically just
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talking about David fighting Goliath and
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US telling our story like we don't
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necessarily need people we can Empower
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each other we can start you know our own
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thing of course he had the answers you
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know what I'm saying we've seen that
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people you know people tell you you
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could do these things and you got to
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just try it so but that's basically
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where no voters came from word so let's
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let's do this
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um I'm gonna throw some names out and
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then you just give me a quick take on
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who they are and the impact they made I
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like that on the Bay Area okay okay
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let's start with and some of these names
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you may not know the artists okay let's
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start with sibo
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okay with sibo sibo was the Northern
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California version of ice cube his his
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career was stunted by prison Stinson
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Street things that he had going on
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um
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but sibo would be basically the
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what the difference between the bay and
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La is right even though he's from
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Sacramento it's considered Northern
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California same thing but he is uh
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basically the difference between LA and
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The Bay because of the people he
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probably was able to deal with in the
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music business the people that could
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guide him in the right ways to the music
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business I don't think he had that and
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so you talking about somebody that
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pressed up a million copies and gave
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them away so I didn't know how I heard
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this dude when I first heard him but he
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was in the streets I'm like no nobody
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just comes out and buzzing like that but
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once he said they pressed up a million
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copies and gave them away and about what
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year is this
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1991. wow
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[Laughter]
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so this guy is this guy is the guy you
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hear on trading War stories with Tupac
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when you hear we ain't hard to find and
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then there's just birds are coming in so
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hard you know because everybody heard
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pot album right uh and and um
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and so when you hear him come on these
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verses you like if you're not familiar
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with him like what's this dude you know
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and so that's who sibo is but he was
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like the Northern California Ice Cube
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nice okay um the delinquents the
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delinquents wow uh the epitome of
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Independence in in Oakland or the Bay
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Area we got this thing called the D boy
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contract everybody had to have it right
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so everybody in the town everybody in
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San Francisco Richmond had a deep way
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contract which means there's a guy that
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sells drugs in the neighborhood that's
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going to sponsor your career oh right
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the d-boy contract and so the
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delinquents where they owned d-boys you
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know what I'm saying so they had money
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and was able to put themselves out and
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they later on signed a priority and you
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know Master P attempted to sign them but
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they they were so strong and they
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independent shout out vidao and Glenn
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man great dudes great dudes all right uh
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Mac Mall
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Mac Mall man uh
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Mac Mall's a guy that early on I thought
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he would be Nationwide just from the
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beginning he had every quality it took
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he was tall the girls liked them he knew
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how to make girl songs and gangster
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songs you know he was affiliated with
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Mac Dre
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um in the Romper Room gang and um
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Mac Mall
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is an emcee so you know sometimes we
16:53
separate the street rappers and the
16:55
street guys versus MCS he's all of that
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so we don't you know Mac Mall is a
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rapper like he's a real rapper and I I
17:01
respect magma I love magma he still raps
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today yeah yeah he's incredible
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um rbl Posse wow
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shout out to uh rbl Posse and Shout out
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black C uh we he just wrote a book
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actually I was reading it on a plane I'm
17:16
supposed to interview him again one of
17:18
the most deepest stories in hip-hop ever
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we talking about uh San Francisco gang
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wars but this war in Hunters Point in
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particular started in the same house
17:28
what so you had this guy booby and you
17:32
have black C right which is Chris and
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their family their family but at some
17:38
point neighborhood [ __ ] got involved and
17:40
it was a it was really bad like that and
17:43
so you got Black Sea who survived but
17:45
his group members both were killed
17:48
and then you got booby who's just
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getting out of federal prison for a gang
17:51
indictment basically and now them guys I
17:54
think actually might be picking up the
17:55
pieces and because they their
17:57
neighborhood that beat lingered on so
18:00
the young people killing each other and
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they don't know why they don't even know
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why the history of it uh uh let's do
18:06
this uh we we're talking about artists
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who have paved the way for artists today
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um I want to talk about an artist today
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who's a new artist that's on your radar
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right now on my radar um I'm really on
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Mari Taylor right now I really love her
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I feel like she she's very talented she
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can sing and rap and I've been having
18:30
this thing right now with female MC's
18:32
out rapping the dudes come on man let's
18:34
see the hell yeah you need to mention a
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woman too yeah like they they are
18:38
rapping the dudes and so with her she
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she can sing also so I met her sounding
18:43
doing covers of Erykah Badu and sounding
18:45
identical
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I mean I'm never because Erica Badu has
18:50
an eccentric voice no one sounds like
18:52
that nobody she sounds like that wow and
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so I heard that first and I was I was
18:57
just I was on her from the beginning and
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then I heard her rap and I was like oh
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my goodness Laurie Taylor Mari Taylor
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what song uh drowning drowning that's
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her single listen
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888-742-3345 call up north rap no
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vultures is here anything you want to
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know about the bay we got you
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[Applause]
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Mari Taylor welcome to the game
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[Applause]
19:23
your song just played everywhere come on
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we got Laura Rob here no vultures so
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listen you got a little bit about no
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voters before you call here I need you
19:33
to follow them follow no vultures on
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Instagram and if you tuned in right now
19:37
you can hear my voice follow no vultures
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at no vultures on Instagram on
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everything actually the way it sounds is
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the way it's spelled beautiful I love
19:47
consolidation here absolutely we got
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Kari on the line from uh ATL or is it
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Carrie carry akari
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[Music]
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about the relation
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I mean uh with uh as far as like pimping
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and like rap
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in the in the Bay Area I know that's a
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big thing man
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um
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from Too Short you know to Drew Down
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um the lift goes on but I specifically
20:21
want to ask man what do you think there
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will ever be like a proper uh
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maybe a a documentary maybe even a movie
20:29
just about the relation of that to the
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baby and how big that is out there as
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far as you know it's inspiration into
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music
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well well for me that's a part of the
20:38
process that's why I started no vultures
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because I wanted to start doing things
20:41
nobody was doing and this is like the
20:44
beginning so no vultures is the baby of
20:46
all of these things that you'll
20:47
eventually see from movies to just
20:50
content to just you know everything and
20:52
as far as the
20:54
the pimping goes I don't know if you was
20:55
listening earlier when her was here but
20:57
we talked about the isms and um when
21:00
that when you talk about the stuff we
21:02
talked about a long time ago now we're
21:04
living in a human trafficking era and
21:06
we're living in a different era so
21:07
people don't relate to it as much you
21:11
know and um but we come from that where
21:13
we come from in in set and it's it's
21:16
almost sad but the women with it too you
21:19
know so it's it's you know someone told
21:21
me a long time ago the women and the
21:23
children in any society will be just
21:25
like the men and I've always found that
21:27
to be true so but yeah that that uh a
21:30
lot of women that uh yeah that are
21:33
aligned with pimples damn near pimps
21:35
themselves for sure yeah yeah that's in
21:37
the bay hey Kari thank you you're a
21:40
citizen
21:41
appreciate it
21:43
um another crew Zion I
21:45
um rest in peace zombie very cool names
21:48
speak to them man what can you say Zion
21:50
I
21:52
um there we go again talk talking about
21:54
the the
21:56
alternate alternate rat right because we
21:59
tend to think that rap runs off Street
22:02
rat and it actually doesn't so this is
22:05
what I've been telling people every day
22:07
like you rapping a lot of gangster rap
22:09
and a lot of these lyrics but explore
22:11
who you are a little more right if you
22:13
shot somebody how did you feel the next
22:15
day did you tell your mom yeah like like
22:18
what's really going with you as a human
22:20
and that's what no vultures does I'm
22:21
trying to humanize people either way go
22:24
and um with Zion I feel as though they
22:28
weren't street so they won't they
22:30
weren't talked about as much but what I
22:32
try to tell people is true fans find you
22:34
you don't need to just rap about
22:36
anything just to be that so salute to
22:39
Zion I mean what they brought to the
22:41
game is amazing to your point one of the
22:43
biggest success stories um in rap
22:47
um
22:48
under that pretense I think would be
22:50
Dale uh the use known as Dale the funky
22:54
Homo Sapien and the hieroglyphic crew uh
22:58
casual Souls of Mischief you know the uh
23:00
the list goes on people even though
23:02
mahershala Ali was the original member
23:05
of the hieroglyphics Crew crazy rapping
23:07
way before he was acting say word yes
23:10
dope rapper and he's working on the
23:12
project right now so he was dope wow
23:14
rehearsal is dope he came up here
23:18
so dope yeah okay I didn't remember that
23:21
part yeah but but what they did though
23:24
is they expanded
23:27
um the box right a perception when it
23:30
came to the Bay because they were so
23:32
different and they dressed different
23:34
than too short or Drew down or the
23:36
loonies you know they they dress
23:38
different uh from young black Brothers
23:40
Kyrie and all these guys
23:42
um talk to their impact and that's crazy
23:44
because I just interviewed tajai and um
23:47
shout out to they just opened a Resort
23:49
in Panama for you know like a retreat
23:53
resort to record so to do concerts and
23:56
shows and and um record music so you
23:58
know how people like to go you know the
24:00
different places and record they just
24:02
opened up a resort for that that's crazy
24:03
for him wow and um but speaking of your
24:07
point
24:08
talking with Tajay about that he said
24:11
that it's all still the same thing
24:12
because of what they had in them because
24:14
their influence was too short but they
24:17
just the the the lyricism wasn't enough
24:20
for them they wanted more and I could I
24:22
could I could understand right because I
24:24
felt like that as a youngster I grew up
24:26
off bdp I grew up off of you know Nas I
24:31
grew up off you know MCS also these
24:33
people from Oakland but then the real
24:35
MCS that that were around
24:38
my era kind of influenced me too so I
24:40
wanted to always know why the rappers at
24:43
least the street rappers didn't like use
24:45
a lot of lyrics it was more reality rap
24:48
I like to call but as far as Hyrule
24:51
I want to mention this too I gotta say
24:53
this
24:56
hieroglyphics was not hieroglyphics
24:58
initially they were the Mad Circle and
25:02
if anybody knows Dub C Dub C had Dub C
25:04
in the Mad Circle yeah Dale the funky
25:07
Homo sapiens cousin is Ice Cube
25:09
when Dale went to work with Ice Cube
25:12
they jackeding for his name is that how
25:14
they did it they took that name and they
25:15
became Dub C in the Mad Circle but
25:18
that's something who was in The Mad
25:19
Circle
25:20
we had Dub C of course
25:24
we had Coolio that's what Coolio came
25:27
out of first time I ever heard Coolio
25:29
was county line
25:30
so he was dubs here in the mass Circle
25:33
and it that was crazy that I knew a
25:35
little bit but when I asked him about
25:36
Dale because Dale uh ice cubes and
25:38
Dale's get your lazy butt off my couch
25:40
video in fact in that video that is the
25:43
First Time Ice Cube cut his curl and
25:44
showed itself in public yeah so Ice Cube
25:48
cut the curl off for his cousin video
25:50
we were just with Cube uh the other day
25:54
yeah right we got Laura Rabb here um
25:57
888-742-3345 from the no vultures uh
26:00
podcast I love it let two cleaners on
26:02
the line what up two times
26:08
[Applause]
26:11
what's going on
26:13
um
26:17
clean can I give you your props right
26:19
now
26:20
listen y'all gotta know this about this
26:23
man on the phone right now one of the
26:25
greatest hike men of all time I was
26:27
gonna create a list but this is two
26:29
shorts original hype man so that guy you
26:32
seeing doing all of them dance steps and
26:34
all of them moves in the back is wow too
26:37
clean that's what we got on the line
26:38
right now hey man hey you had to illness
26:41
hey you had the illness style going with
26:43
it
26:45
[Music]
26:48
[Laughter]
26:56
I'm fly out tomorrow to host that event
26:58
so you gonna come down yeah it's raining
27:02
out here
27:03
damn what it's raining I didn't know
27:06
it's raining yeah
27:18
man go ahead and gargle though
27:31
and two clean uh is an inspiration too
27:34
because actually from my block he's the
27:37
only person that was doing anything to
27:38
entertainment uh oh outside of land from
27:40
Capital Tax yeah don't let me disrespect
27:42
Lynn but those two guys were actually in
27:44
the music industry and we had we had
27:46
nobody around like that we only sold
27:48
crack and heroin we didn't know nothing
27:49
about yeah I'm saying
27:52
we didn't know nothing about
27:54
entertainment and music you know so
27:56
we're gonna leave
27:58
no music you know what I'm saying so
28:01
shout out to two clean because that was
28:02
an inspiration for me too just seeing
28:04
him alongside too short and having all
28:06
of those friends and he would not
28:08
hesitate to go in his Rolodex and call
28:09
celebrities that he knew that's right
28:11
right we're gonna play another song and
28:13
we're gonna keep these phone lines open
28:14
888-742-3345.
28:17
um I often talk about uh the real repti
28:21
movement that's happening in the Bay of
28:22
course wise our cousin um AKA two Juiced
28:26
and uh fonte Cav talk about fonte man I
28:32
love fonte and it's it's funny that you
28:34
say that you know you told me your name
28:35
you told me something that I should say
28:37
to people about these interviews When
28:39
anybody wants the interviews you said
28:41
man you don't have the bandwidth right
28:43
so I'm using that I don't you know like
28:45
people don't realize it's just me I'm
28:47
the editor the producer I call I'm the
28:49
contact I'm everything so I don't have
28:52
the bandwidth it's just me you know so I
28:54
know people would like me to do a lot a
28:55
little more but speaking of that my
28:57
point is what fonte is I didn't
28:59
interview him for a long time we from
29:00
the same block but it's the same thing I
29:03
tell everybody you ain't did nothing you
29:05
know where your emotion at and so now
29:07
that's the thing they're going on having
29:09
motion so he's starting to the legendary
29:11
Filthy Rich out of Oakland
29:13
um and once he did that I felt like he
29:16
was serious about being a rapper but he
29:17
he's another person that was done it by
29:19
prison and he couldn't get out of that
29:22
slump because we don't have publicist
29:25
managers a RS we don't have any of those
29:28
things in the bay like if I ask you
29:29
who's your favorite art a r publicist or
29:32
manager somebody's going to tell you
29:33
somebody from 40 years ago or they'll
29:36
say Tina Davis who had Chris Brown but
29:39
you know no one currently so it's just
29:41
people making music so but shout out to
29:43
fonte because he finally took his rap
29:45
career seriously I respect that let's
29:48
play a song for him I was going to say
29:50
Cher's boyfriend he's an anr if I'm not
29:53
mistaken out of the fact what's my man
29:55
name that was with Amber Rose
29:59
hey
30:00
shut up
30:07
he's the number one client yo he's from
30:11
the town he's from the town he's the
30:13
owner and the president who compel the
30:15
likes of an Amber Rose in the [ __ ] you
30:18
gotta be from the town yeah
30:20
he might be a better a r for the women's
30:23
side of the music
30:25
hey we gonna come back this is called
30:28
just bang yo fonte what up no no no just
30:31
bang
30:32
oh Money Motivated shout out Drew Banger
30:36
man on the beat okay Money Motivated
30:40
song is called Money Motivated by who
30:42
Lord rap killer fonte and just bang
30:45
shout out to the whole fod man shout out
30:47
to Filthy Rich Filthy Rich has done more
30:51
as a CEO in the Bay Area than any other
30:56
CEO ever in the last year after last
30:59
year in the last year he has signed more
31:02
people put more people money in people
31:04
pockets and took them off the streets
31:05
than any CEO in the Bay Area has done
31:08
ever wow Filthy Rich shout out Phil Phil
31:12
egg man congratulations our our
31:15
grandmothers used to go to Sunday brunch
31:17
all the time and brag about their
31:19
grandsons
31:21
that's crazy they used to sit at the
31:24
table and brag about it and Mommy Yoshi
31:26
was like you gotta come to the lunch
31:29
I was like come on man you want me to
31:32
come to the line
31:34
so I went to the lunch yeah right and uh
31:37
and it was me and all the the older lady
31:40
crew you know I liked them you know like
31:42
the older lady we know and his
31:44
grandmother was bragged wow and so she
31:47
called you know we you know that's crazy
31:50
that's crazy
31:53
all right
31:55
who else I want to ask you about uh JT
31:59
the bigger figure
32:01
um
32:01
hey man that dude is a genius when I say
32:05
genius I mean literally a genius like JT
32:08
the bigger figure for one he's a
32:10
producer rapper one of the greatest that
32:12
existed out of the bay a lot of people
32:13
did it but he's one of the best JT the
32:16
bigger figure started Get Low records
32:19
um and he he got signed a priority also
32:23
but JT came back to the hood as a
32:25
philanthropist I think he spent most of
32:27
his time even the misunderstandings and
32:29
trying to give back to the neighborhoods
32:30
like really like he's really one of
32:32
those guys proud to be black love our
32:35
people like I respect JT and you know
32:37
even with all the the Riff Raff that has
32:39
happened in the past you know couple
32:41
years with JT he's a solid dude as far
32:44
as I can tell you know I ain't had no
32:45
problems with him so I I love JT Memphis
32:48
what he did for the bay man he been in
32:50
Africa killing the game killing the game
32:52
in Africa and he never stopped moving
32:54
around like JT
32:55
um he moved to Atlanta at one time he
32:57
moved to Africa also I'm gonna tell this
33:00
since you since you asked about him JT
33:03
the bigger figure started something
33:04
called trap flicks right when after
33:07
Netflix was started trap flicks was like
33:09
hood movies
33:11
and he went to Atlanta and did snow on
33:15
the bluff oh
33:17
classic classic
33:18
Curtis Snow yeah and so that led to
33:21
something else Snoop actually started
33:23
doing something with JT and in the midst
33:25
of that
33:26
Dame Dash studios was started
33:29
because JT shared some technology with
33:33
Dame
33:34
and that's how he started the yes the TV
33:37
the 24-hour streaming Network that yes
33:41
that started from the bank
33:44
from the bank from the bay Damon tell
33:46
you yeah oh he will tell you
33:48
yeah he'll tell you he keeps it 1000.
33:51
wow wow okay
33:54
um
33:55
888-742-3345 Joseph is in North Carolina
33:57
Joseph you got a question hey Jody uh
34:01
good morning everyone what up yo I just
34:04
want to know what uh Bay Area Talent is
34:07
different in the fact that they their
34:09
Drive seems to be different their hustle
34:12
is a little bit less intense
34:15
but more involved more evolved where
34:19
does that come from
34:21
and and introduce them to the to the
34:23
National stage like
34:25
does that make sense what I'm asking
34:27
like what their hustle is so different
34:30
why how okay I think it's from what I
34:33
mentioned uh earlier
34:36
um before the break is that the lack of
34:38
resources the lack of resources or the
34:42
um accessibility you have to work like
34:44
that you know I just mentioned that I do
34:45
everything myself
34:47
um there's no other way to do it until
34:50
you become our crew or you grow to a
34:53
certain level and then you have people
34:54
that's more interested in you and you're
34:57
interested in doing what you're doing so
34:58
that's just what we come from the
35:00
Independent hustle that's how it all
35:01
started
35:26
that's why like I love Simba like I am
35:30
obsessed with that kid like I just think
35:32
his skill set his hustle and he just not
35:37
scared like you throw that that that
35:39
track on and the way he's been able to
35:42
do it man it's just been crazy love him
35:44
like to watch somebody from born in the
35:47
bay and doing all that to get the kind
35:50
of response he's getting just like as a
35:52
Lyricist like as an emcee that I grew up
35:54
knowing what an emcee is he got it he
35:57
got it yo Simba got it he got it and he
36:00
killing it um and he's playing too short
36:02
and the three
36:05
wow tomorrow I'll be in um in Oakland
36:08
um part of the two short Street naming
36:10
that's um taking place off of High
36:12
Street and uh and Foothill somewhere in
36:14
that area incredible right by Fremont
36:16
right next to Fremont High School where
36:18
short used to walk every day to go to
36:20
school
36:21
which is like four or four blocks from
36:23
uh our grandmother's house so four
36:25
blocks literally four blocks closer
36:29
you know uh but rap
36:32
um I wanna listen I didn't name every
36:35
artist yeah on purpose that's right
36:36
there's a lot of people you won't keep
36:38
to sneak it's a lot of folks that I
36:41
didn't name Dwayne Wiggins who's been
36:42
responsible for Zendaya who's been
36:45
responsible uh uh for her
36:48
um who else should we name been
36:49
responsible Kaylani
36:52
um coming to the Forefront
36:54
but I still don't believe that the world
36:58
realizes the impact of MC Hammer
37:01
[Music]
37:03
facts facts I don't think I know the
37:07
world does not realize the impact of MC
37:11
Hammer
37:14
what can you speak to on that route
37:17
Hammer took the brunt bruises for us to
37:20
have fun like Hammer you know in the
37:23
time where gangster rap existed Hammer
37:25
was having fun he was dancing by the way
37:27
he's a he's a street who like he's very
37:31
tough don't nobody want to see hammer
37:32
for sure but
37:34
Hammer was disrespected by having Taco
37:36
Bell commercials like Hammer was the
37:38
person in the scapegoat that they called
37:39
the sellout for everything that these
37:41
dudes try to do now where they really
37:43
doing corny stuff to get that done
37:45
Hammer did it organically he did it with
37:48
his dance moves he believed in himself
37:50
like Hammer took half of East Oakland on
37:54
the road
37:55
it's people that still live in homes
37:56
from doing errands for MC Hammer like
37:59
they still own homes for just being an
38:01
Aaron boy like so hammer took the
38:03
hairdressers with him Hammer took
38:05
everybody with him he's a different kind
38:07
of individual and I don't think that
38:09
there'll ever be another one just
38:11
somebody so selfless like you know and
38:13
then you hear these lines you hear Nelly
38:15
say blow 30 mil like I'm hammering you
38:17
just hear these different and it's like
38:18
ah you know like but first of all I want
38:21
to say this too he's a tech guy too so
38:23
he's doing well don't okay don't get it
38:26
twisted we had a conversation Hammer was
38:28
in Silicon Valley in the 90s early
38:32
Silicon Valley startups all these
38:34
companies were coming to hammer yes for
38:37
consultation yes on how to Market their
38:40
products and make them cultural
38:42
compatible since the 90s I like that
38:45
okay yeah and just just just everything
38:48
about Hammer from the little league
38:49
baseball teams like people don't know
38:52
how much that like if you talk to
38:53
somebody that's around 40 and younger
38:56
they're going to tell you they probably
38:57
play with one of hammer teams like so
38:59
just those type of things and then you
39:01
get Flack for people say he bought the
39:02
police helicopter copters right I don't
39:05
know how much that is true versus he
39:07
just made a donation to somebody to help
39:08
his what he thought was helping his
39:10
community like we speaking from the mind
39:12
frame of now with people talking about
39:13
defunding the police and all of that
39:15
stuff he didn't the only thing he knew
39:17
was he wanted to help his community so
39:19
whatever he did it wasn't with bad
39:20
intentions like he was trying to lock
39:22
people up or nothing like that so but
39:24
Hammer Man Legends salute to hammer man
39:26
that's 100 that's 100 and and I I will
39:30
say this personally I've said this this
39:32
way I said it on the show I said it to
39:34
hammer when we had the opportunity to
39:35
sit down and talk to him
39:37
um it was it was our ignorance
39:41
um I believe at a time you looking at
39:43
you know hip hop in the 90s so heavy
39:46
East Coast bass you know it's it's baggy
39:49
clothes his Tim's wasn't nobody really
39:51
doing all that dancing and moving around
39:53
and talking about praying and it just
39:56
seemed so commercially and all these
39:58
different things and it was just that
40:01
closed mindset and I'm and I'm talking
40:03
about the people who thought California
40:04
was all the same right Oakland La all of
40:08
it was just California you know it was
40:10
ignorance it was real ignorance and I'm
40:12
sorry go this way no I finished your
40:14
thought cause I'm just listening um
40:15
because I'm you taking me back to that
40:17
time period and um the ignorance was
40:20
perpetuated the ignorance was marketed
40:23
right uh what Hammer was doing was so
40:26
against the grain that it didn't benefit
40:28
the record companies that pushed the
40:30
artists that was doing the opposite of
40:32
hammer and so it was it's true the
40:35
ignorance was um it was um it was
40:38
calculated
40:39
hammers I want to say please hammer
40:42
don't hurt him yeah album 18 million
40:47
time well not only that 18 minutes also
40:50
a bigger issue issue what we talk about
40:51
like it's at that time it's also due to
40:54
a lack of travel and no experiences so
40:57
you don't know what East Oakland is East
41:00
Oakland don't what does that mean you
41:02
don't realize this man is bringing his
41:04
people on the road which is no different
41:06
if you're a rapper artist from Brooklyn
41:07
or Jersey you bringing your people on
41:10
the road but for some reason it doesn't
41:12
compute to you the same way because you
41:13
ain't been nowhere that's crazy that
41:15
y'all saying this because part of no
41:16
vultures is like what you wasn't here
41:18
Heather when when I said it but
41:20
humanizing right so both sides let's you
41:23
know I heard um
41:26
um uh um search on one of these
41:29
interviews talking about hammer and how
41:31
that happened on the gas face like he
41:33
like Hammer got the worst part of gas
41:35
face they said something about hammer
41:38
and went back to it it said something
41:39
else so it's like you got people
41:42
attacking him even people from his own
41:43
City you know short guy bars about
41:45
Hammer but I always write that off too
41:47
to these all these guys was under 30.
41:52
yeah like even the third base situation
41:54
when you hear search explain it you know
41:56
he said it was more of his partner but
41:58
even at that point they was young
42:01
don't go
42:07
the other thing is Heather
42:09
Hammer was spiritually grounded yes that
42:12
part very right let's talk about the
42:14
spiritual aspect and what he was doing
42:17
and what he was trying to do was not
42:20
financially profitable to what was being
42:23
signed at that time spirituality you're
42:26
going to teach these [ __ ] spirituality
42:28
that's what you gonna rap about you're
42:30
gonna try to bring people together
42:31
that's why we pray pray
42:35
we can't let that happen because all
42:37
this other stuff we want to perpetuate
42:39
on the community over and over and over
42:41
and over and over again might not it
42:44
might get you know discounted or
42:45
something to that effect so salute the
42:47
MC hammers love you brother that story
42:50
you're gonna be told man I know he got
42:53
some stuff in the can he told me ham
42:56
hammers hammers hammers what so for all
42:59
of these guys who thought Hammer was
43:00
some kind of pushover I just want y'all
43:02
to know Hammer's career was funded by
43:04
the biggest drug dealer in Oakland
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at the time yeah yeah so you know you
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don't want to say the name shout out to
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Little D Man shout out to Daryl Reed man
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um
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was pardoned by President Obama after 28
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years he told me a story of leaving
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Hammer 500 000 on accident you know at
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the beginning of his career you know and
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it wasn't even a d-boy contract it was a
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gift so he he intention he intended to
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give him I think 100 or 200 000. he gave
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him the wrong bag Tracy tried to make
43:35
him a deep way contract
43:39
so they literally chased the bus down
43:41
and got the bread back and did the right
43:43
thing but just stuff like that to let
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you know that hammer is and Hammer is a
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great example for the kids by the way
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because he never sold drugs and he
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worked hard like he worked for the age
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he was a ball boy yeah yeah so
43:54
absolutely give it up for a little ride
43:57
by our special guest today he didn't
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always yeah he was just coming to bring
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his beautiful daughter valet over there
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but she's celebrating her 16th birthday
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tomorrow we just brought her to New York
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just doing daddy daughter thing yeah
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Happy Father's Day to my brother too
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Daryl by the way yes birthday today
44:14
H-Town what up jack happy birthday Jetta
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and make sure happy birthday Jada make
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sure you follow uh Laura Rabb on his
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podcast Network
44:23
give it out rapist
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okay I thought you had nothing left to
44:30
say but uh
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I'll let you say it today go ahead yeah
44:36
but um follow me on no vultures all
44:39
across the board Laura Rabb all across
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the board
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um we dropping new interviews I got uh
44:44
some new stuff coming out man that's
44:45
gonna be pretty dope man got Danny
44:47
Glover coming up so that's gonna be huge
44:49
for me you know and I want to say this
44:51
too shout out to Danny boy because Danny
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Boy gave me my first interview that did
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two million yes you know what I'm saying
44:58
so Danny Boy told some stories that was
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incredible like and just see them there
45:02
have me viral
45:04
I mean two million Danny boy that's
45:06
viral yeah Danny Boy talked about
45:10
he said something about Suge Knight told
45:13
him he should have came out the closet
45:14
sooner years ago he should have been the
45:16
first one to do it you know he says you
45:19
letting little nazex beat you to the
45:20
punch
45:21
that's so sugar still should Chuck is
45:24
still Shook You got the clip it's one of
45:26
the clips that uh uh
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that uh that you have when he came out
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yeah
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how do you feel about that what like do
45:48
you do man I feel like I came came out
45:50
too late I came up
45:52
that's what I was really asking you like
45:54
[ __ ] you [ __ ] up you should have came
45:57
on with this [ __ ] when I talked to Sugar
45:59
about this [ __ ] she'll call me on phone
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he's like yeah I said what's up you say
46:02
what's up with this gay [ __ ] say what
46:03
you mean he's like [ __ ] you could have
46:05
told me I said yeah right
46:09
he's like Danny Boy how the [ __ ] you
46:11
live he said man tell all them people
46:13
about your [ __ ] damn don't nobody give a
46:15
[ __ ] about you gay he say man kiss all
46:17
the [ __ ]
46:19
kiss the [ __ ] and make them
46:21
know
46:29
thank you for Gabriella Wilson AKA heard
46:32
for coming by check her out on Beauty
46:34
and the Beast December 15th Disney plus
46:37
had this herded towards Urban view hit
46:39
her up at the happy hour whb Tracy G
46:42
it's Tracy
46:44
g-i-t-s-t-r-a-c-y-g everywhere say what
46:46
up Salute to my man Jay period you can
46:48
follow him at jperia BK he was our
46:51
special guest DJ to my niece Malay there
46:53
is nothing in this world you can't
46:55
accomplish
46:56
if you can see it and you believe in you
47:00
everything you want will come your way
47:03
work hard towards it don't get
47:05
distracted you're 16 now so this your
47:09
sweet 16. you know so more of your life
47:11
will be in your hands you'll be highly
47:13
protected by your amazing parents your
47:16
mother is a queen she has superior
47:19
wisdom and she's man her Savvy is
47:21
incredible her inside her intuition and
47:25
for her to be able to maintain and
47:27
sustain your dad you know she's a
47:29
powerful
47:39
has undergone a lot you know your dad's
47:43
story your dad been through a lot right
47:45
and look who he is how he's elevated
47:47
over all of these things these pitfalls
47:50
these obstacles these distractions that
47:52
Society are put on a black man right and
47:54
your dad has been able to maintain
47:56
sustain and Elevate Ty move out the way
48:00
so I could look at my niece your dad
48:01
been able to elevate and look what he's
48:04
doing now he's bringing more opportunity
48:06
to people in the bay and otherwise then
48:10
[ __ ] the most most places you're not
48:12
getting these opportunities anymore your
48:14
dad is providing for them so salute to
48:17
your dad and salute to your uncle my
48:20
cousin Clee you know for all that he's
48:22
about to do uh it's incredible he's been
48:25
a part of this movement the Inception of
48:27
this movement man it wouldn't be no
48:29
movement without him there would be no
48:30
moving without cousin Clee and so we
48:32
celebrating cousin Clee as well yeah and
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uh thank you to our citizens I'm at real
48:37
sway across the board I'm headed to the
48:39
Bay we'll be back next week also look
48:41
for that mount Westmore conversation we
48:43
had with Pandora and here on shade four
48:45
or five make sure you go to sways
48:47
Universe at Lecrae freestyle is up that
48:49
Absol conversation is up as well
48:52
um the mayor of la oh mayor Karen bass
48:56
we had a conversation with her that'll
48:58
be up today Papa J make sure y'all go
49:00
check it out stay on the right side of
49:02
positivity and citizens we we have
49:06
nothing
49:08
left to say
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