Jackson State University Pres. Thomas Hudson On The Importance of HBCU's & $5Million Fedex Donation
Feb 9, 2022
Kicking off Black History Month, the President of Jackson State University, Thomas Hudson sits down with Sway and Heather B to talk about the importance of HBCU's in part 1 of this interview.
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Jackson State University Pres. Thomas Hudson On The Importance of HBCU's & $5Million Fedex Donation
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ma'am listen man we celebrate black
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history every single day we got a
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special guest i i feel important right
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now hb you know it's you know we sat
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down with a few special people in our
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careers but this is really special to me
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um my family comes from a history of
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attending hbcus
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my grandmother she went to southern
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my cousin nia she went to grambling my
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cousin shamont
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he went to morris brown and my great
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great grandfather went to school in
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tuskegee so i got this whole history of
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folks that went to hbcus
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unfortunately i i went to hip-hop
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university and that's how i ended up
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here you went to hip-hop university too
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uh if we've been seeing a lot of
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attention rightfully so um being
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given to hbcus even here at siriusxm we
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got a hbcu channel that's dedicated to
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hbcus channel 142 if you ever want to
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check out what we're doing with channel
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142 that's purely dedicated to hbcus and
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kelly jackson kelly kincade our
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supervisor and producer boy if there's
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anybody that ever waves a flag for
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jackson state university they don't wave
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it quite like she does i mean you cannot
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mention any of the marching band in the
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sonic boom of the south otherwise you're
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going to get into an incredible debate
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when coach prime decided to go over
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there who's also a citizen to sway in
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the morning i think she might have sent
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them some champagne and said you made
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the right choice i mean so many
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different people are now looking at
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jackson state university rightfully so
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even travis hunter the number one high
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school recruit chose to attend jackson
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state university and what a lift
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that was put in the spotlight on hbcus
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and today
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today i've been saying it all day man we
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got the president of jackson state
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university the one and only thomas hutt
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hold up doctor
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thomas hudson is with us today man hey
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my brother how you feeling how you feel
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this morning i'm feeling great and uh
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look thanks for that introduction i hope
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my mom was listening that was awesome
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thank you so much
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absolutely uh well you know i'm happy to
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have you on and kelly was telling me
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about the student ambassador program
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that uh fedex is partnering with uh
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jackson state university now i wanted
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our citizens because we got a lot of you
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know college age people that tune into
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our show and then we got a lot of
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parents who kids are trying to choose
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where to where to go to school and we
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always push hbcus for a number of
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reasons but can you break down this
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student ambassador program that you guys
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are involved with
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absolutely and uh look i appreciate the
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opportunity uh to come on this show and
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i appreciate you using your platform uh
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in such a positive way to highlight
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hbcus and in this case jackson state in
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particular but uh you know the student
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ambassador program is part of our
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partnership with fedex and it's really
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part of fedex's overall commitment to
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hbcus they have a partnership with about
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hhtcus
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they chose two students from each hbcu
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to be a part of a student ambassador
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program uh provides them entree really
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into the corporate world you know just
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this week uh one of the representatives
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one of our ambassadors was able to
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accompany myself along with the other
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presidents to the new york stock
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exchange to participate in the bill
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ringing you know how cool is that for a
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student a business major to literally go
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on to the new york stock exchange go on
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to trading for uh you know and really
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participate in that type of event
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interact with corporate vps you know
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corporate titans ride the fedex
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corporate jet to new york that was just
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a wonderful experience and it's really
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indicative of fedex commitment to hbcus
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and certainly their partnership with
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jackson state in particular and really
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that increased engagement you're seeing
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with hbcus and kind of to go to your
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point where you're talking about how do
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you encourage and how do you make the
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sale to the parents right how do you
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convince parents and one of the reasons
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i'm happy that i'm in this market today
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is because when you talk about
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affordability and access they have the
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ability to access a high quality
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education at a price that doesn't leave
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you drowning in debt and offers you the
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same type of corporate partnerships
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those corporate engagements those things
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that will really help take you to your
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next level the internships job placement
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opportunities and you can do that right
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at an hbcu in a place that's built for
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you and your culture and that nurturing
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environment so you know it just captures
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really why you should choose jsu uh of
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course i'm always going to ride for jsu
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first i'm like kelly in that respect but
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really why you should really look at
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hbcus and the value and the importance
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of hbcus
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dr thomas hudson it says well done man i
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know uh fedex uh
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they they're
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they're actually pledging 5 million in
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donations right they're going to put at
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least 5 million behind this program
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how what can five million dollars is i
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mean it's
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it's a big number but then again it's
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not what can you do with five million
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tell folks why it's beneficial well it's
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beneficial because it allows you to
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increase your capacity so if you're
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talking about programming for your
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students you know a lot of times we talk
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about internships but internships have a
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cost to them and not all of them are
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paid so how can we help our students
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access these opportunities that would
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otherwise be locked out to them but most
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universities don't have funding to help
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students facilitate internships these
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dollars help us do that
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also these dollars help us increase
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scholarships you know gap funding we
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know about your top students who have
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full rides and those things are great
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but what about that student that 500 is
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the difference between them completing
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their studies or them having to go home
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and set out a semester we know that when
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it comes to retention students typically
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leave school for two reasons one campus
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life but mainly is because of dollars
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it's rarely because of our students
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can't keep up academically it's almost
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never that reason it's usually because
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of financial reasons and sometimes where
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you will be shocked at how little it
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would take to help our students stay in
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school so applying this money for what
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we call a gap funding we have a gap
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scholarship fund and what it does is
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help us meet your need and then you look
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at areas like faculty development you
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know we talk about our students in that
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wonderful product but who's teaching
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them and how do we continue to promote
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develop and bring on the excellent
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faculty that'll help teach those
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students and help produce even more of
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what these corporations are looking for
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uh one of the things i always ask when i
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meet with any corporate entity how can
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we help you reach your programmatic
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goals you know what jsu's goals are but
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what are some of your programmatic goals
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what are you looking for engineers you
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looking for more business management
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majors how can we help you meet your
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programmatic goals and how can we
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partner in aligning that effort
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man we got the president of jackson
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state university here heather come on dr
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thomas hudson and and and people listen
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i'm open up these phone lines 888 7 4 2
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3 3 4 5 like you know a lot of folks you
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know with hbc's hbcu stand for you know
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and so it's great that we have somebody
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here to break this down uh and have it
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why did you which college did you choose
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okay i chose the jesuit institution and
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no disrespect to the hbcus but um i
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wanted to stay very close to new york
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city i wanted to be an entertainment
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industry so it was career based in that
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sense i wanted to be someplace where i
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could really easily get back and forth
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to new york city because i was chasing
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music and hip-hop uh so much but dr
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hudson thank you so much for joining us
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today and the timing couldn't be more
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perfect with everything for me uh swain
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and i i think a lot of us are from the
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generation of you know get your
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education don't worry about sports don't
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worry about anything else that's the one
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thing they can never take away from you
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but obviously sports has become such a
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big thing in the timing now or sway
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mentioned coach prime
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who's a
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and all the attention he has brought to
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jackson state in particular being there
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on those sidelines and i would say
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mentoring those young men as well and
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not just being a football coach but
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being that big brother that father
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figure to a degree so when you fast
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forward now with some of them possibly
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having goals um to the nfl for the nfl
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and coach prime coming from the end all
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the things that's coming out now with
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the nfl and the hiring tactics and
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everything has some of that been part of
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you guys conversation yet is is that
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kind of like something y'all been
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talking about with the news that just
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broke recently with brian flores
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well you know what that's always uh it's
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always in the backdrop of what's going
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on you know in terms of you know our
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positioning the hbcus positioning in the
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world of sports and of college athletics
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for far too long
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when we look uh you have talented
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student athletes you know
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states for hall of famers more than any
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other institution in the state of
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mississippi it's really more than a lot
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of pwis right and so you know when you
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look at how long hbcs have been
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overlooked and then you look at what
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coach prime brings to the table shining
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a spotlight on the talent that was
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already there first and foremost and
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then bringing on more talent increasing
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the profile of jackson state and that's
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leading over as you can see into other
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hbcus
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it's really having a positive impact uh
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on college football in general it's
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richard and that's one thing we have to
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make sure you know diversity being
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america's super power
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college football is richer hbcus are a
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main part of the conversation when we're
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ignored you're missing so much in terms
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of the culture uh the pageantry the on
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game experience you're missing so much
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of that when you don't make hbcu as a
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part of the conversation so what coach
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prime is doing is really reintroducing
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hbcus to the part of the mainstream
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conversation so when you turn on sports
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illustrated i mean uh espn go on sports
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illustrated you're seeing us and you're
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seeing us
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not as a science show not in the
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background but you're seeing us first
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and foremost opening up the door for
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those student athletes in particular and
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also at other hbcus
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i want to ask you because you mentioned
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the pwi's and you graduated your
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undergrad you went to uh the university
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of mississippi
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no no actually uh jackson state uh yeah
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oh you went to jackson state get it
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right yes sir
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no look
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you gotta you gotta departure i did get
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my law degree from uh the university of
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mississippi school of law uh okay one
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wonderful play out doc don't play me
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[Music]
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you know look i believe blue and white
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uh jsu greg grew up around the school uh
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jhu has been a part of my entire life so
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yes very very proud of my jsu roots okay
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so can you talk about the differences
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between hbcu and the pwi that you you
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from your own personal experiences
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well you know and let me cast this by
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saying obviously all schools are
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different every okay every experience is
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going to be different so i don't pretend
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to know what's best for each and every
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individual i will say that hbcus were
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created for us they were created as a
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safe haven for african americans to get
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educated now obviously our doors are
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open to all you know one of the things
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one of the things i'm doing here is
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after i leave this i'm going to
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connecticut to a community college to do
11:22
an mou signing to help that pipeline of
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students access that affordable great
11:27
jsu education that i was talking about
11:29
earlier but really hbcus were created
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for us the culture
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um the nurturing the environment it was
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created with
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african-americans us in mind and
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really those of a lower economic
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demographic in mind you don't
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necessarily see that at most of your
11:46
pwis okay not to say dogs aren't great
11:49
schools to attend not to say that they
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don't do things and try to intentionally
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uh bring others into the fold but it's a
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lot different when it was created with
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you in mind the culture is you not for
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you but it is you and you really feel
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that and also that sense of leadership
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and that sense of confidence there's a
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sense of confidence that you gain
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unknowingly even when you see us in
12:12
leadership when you look at the
12:13
president it's an african-american male
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that has a very similar background to
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you
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when you look at your professors your
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professors if you're what is chemistry
12:22
biology whether it's english uh public
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health business these are people who
12:27
have succeeded in the field who look
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like you and are showing you real life
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day-to-day examples of what you can
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become and when we bring our alumni back
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and you see our successful alumni 50 000
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strong doing all these great things
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these are people that look just like you
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have similar backgrounds as you you
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can't put a price on that and that is
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something that you really only get to
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experience at an hbcu so again i always
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uh tell everybody you know you go to the
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college that's best for you you
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certainly go for the situation that
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works for you everyone's experience is
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going to be different but when you talk
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about hbcus you just cannot ignore those
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factors i just
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named dr thomas hudson we got the
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president here with us hb when you talk
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about the successes of the prominent
13:12
alumni can you drop some names is that
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possible
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hey look i can i can drop a few names
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you know we're here in new york so i
13:20
have to mention our music mogul cortez
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bryant uh who's doing great things and
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actually teaches uh actually teachers of
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course you know man is drake lil wayne
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and that's the teachers of course at
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jackson state university very well
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attended does well i have to talk about
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my mentor uh dr rob page former
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secretary of education
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uh you know jsu graduate as well i have
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to talk about our alumni president dr
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alexia norwood a prominent doctor henry
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ford hospital in detroit michigan and
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again just so so many others i could go
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down a list but we have a rich rich
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history of jsu alumni uh 50 000 strong
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you know it's interesting i had dinner
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last night uh with kelly and some of our
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other alumni here and you know all new
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york residents who are jsu alums here
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doing great things in all types of
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industry really achieving their dreams
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these are names that you may not know
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but they've all been able to take who
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they were and become who they were meant
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to be from and with their jsu education
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so again i i would love to run down the
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whole list but i think that will take
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the entire show so oh wow that's the
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stunt right there dr thomas hudson
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uh
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let's we got a lot of people on the
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phone lines i want to talk to them i
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also want to talk about curriculum uh at
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you know jackson state university i know
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a lot of new programs are created
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because of economics and social and
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sometimes demographic trends so are
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there any new degree programs that you
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guys are currently offering
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well we have you know we offer a
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comprehensive curriculum uh spread about
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five colleges you know engineering uh
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technology of course uh liberal arts
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education public health business uh we
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are looking at rolling out a couple of
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new programs actually supply chain
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management is a program we're looking to
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roll out uh this coming fall fall 2022
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and really looking to meet the needs you
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know when you look at where jackson
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mississippi in particular is situated uh
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kind of at that intersection of the
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south 25 i-20 i-55 and for those who are
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familiar with the southeast you know the
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importance of those two interstates in
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jackson state six at that intersection
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so certainly we can become a leader in
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terms of equity and supply chain
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management same thing with construction
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you know we have a lot of there's a
15:33
building bloom going on in the united
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states with infrastructure a lot of
15:37
different things happening what is our
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place in that what is the place of the
15:41
african-american businessman in the area
15:43
of construction and how can jackson
15:45
state help meet that need by offering
15:47
the programs and offering the curriculum
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that allows students to access uh those
15:51
types of fields those lucrative fields
15:54
and become those entrepreneurs and
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become some of those names that you can
15:57
be mentioned uh at later times so again
15:59
we're doing a lot of different things
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public health you know we were heavy uh
16:03
in our covert response you know had uh
16:05
partnerships with the cdc in terms of
16:08
really um bringing out and helping to
16:10
still miss that misinformation that you
16:12
were seeing at the very early stages of
16:14
kobe jackson state was at the forefront
16:17
of just putting that aside and really
16:19
helping our community get access to the
16:22
right information and make the type of
16:24
choices that the type of healthy choices
16:26
that help us survive uh this pandemic so
16:29
you'll see more and more of that you
16:30
know we're always evolving as it relates
16:32
to our curriculum as it relates to our
16:34
program of study uh building a solid
16:36
foundation that's been laid for 144
16:39
years but also meeting the needs of
16:40
today
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dr hudson i wanted to ask just in your
16:44
opinion how long does it take for a
16:47
freshman student um to adjust like say a
16:50
kid like myself when i was coming out of
16:52
high school
16:53
a black female i heard these hbcus i
16:55
would see howard and all the different
16:57
bands and stuff like but i was i would
16:59
always think like i'm from the new york
17:02
new jersey area i don't want to go to
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mississippi i don't want to go to like
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this is culture shock for me and i'm
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black like how long does it take for a
17:11
kid to adjust because people have these
17:14
ideas of what the south may be like or
17:16
what this may be like uh do a lot of
17:17
kids return because they just can't deal
17:20
with it um because if i was in the car
17:21
listening right now i would say i want
17:23
to go there you know but it could be
17:26
difficult to make that that jump from
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from new york to mississippi
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yeah look sometimes it can be difficult
17:33
to make the jump from jackson to jackson
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uh when it comes to
17:36
uh being you know being from college
17:38
when you're going from high school to
17:39
college but your point that's right on
17:42
point uh and it was part of you know we
17:43
had an interesting conversation last
17:45
night about that like the culture shot
17:47
of course of coming from uh new york to
17:49
mississippi one of the things to help is
17:52
that when you get there uh you will
17:54
likely very likely find someone who is
17:57
from your area and has similar you know
18:00
a similar background you know there is
18:02
no specific mode you will find all types
18:05
from all types of backgrounds all types
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of regions so coming from new york there
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are other new yorkers at jackson state
18:11
university and one of the reasons we're
18:13
doing the mou signing and we're really
18:15
trying to increase our recruiting
18:16
footprint is because we don't want just
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one you know i don't want just one
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header coming from uh new york from
18:23
brooklyn we want several of you to come
18:25
you know we want to be able to offer
18:27
that great education to a number of new
18:29
yorkers to a number of californians
18:30
wherever we may be so what you'll find
18:32
first and foremost is that you're not
18:34
alone okay and second college i can't
18:37
think of a better place to make those
18:39
lifelong friends and lifelong
18:40
connections than college you would be
18:42
surprised at how many people you will
18:44
meet during orientation for the first
18:46
time and those are really your partners
18:48
your buddies that'll carry you through
18:50
and help you carry help carry i'm sorry
18:51
through the next four years uh so again
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you know i understand that concern you
18:55
know everyone gets homesick uh everyone
18:58
has to experience some level of culture
19:00
shock even if it's just being being away
19:02
from home for the first time wherever
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you're from dealing with different
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studies and things like that but if you
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stick it out you know get through those
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first couple of weeks make your friends
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you'll find that you'll have a
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successful transition in a college life
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you
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